Speaker 1: What they lift service and listen, we have our good
Speaker 1: friend here. But I'm Antio Laghi, I'm Jiji Maguire, I'm
Speaker 1: lurryow and yeah, oh what's up? My bad. We do
Speaker 1: have to clarify when you hear like screaming, that's at
Speaker 1: his household. There's children in the house. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: my my little ones is going nuts. But it's all right,
Speaker 1: it's all good. You've been having a very active COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen quarantine, right. Indeed, indeed I have, Yeah, everybody else,
Speaker 1: well I won't see everybody else. But the majority of
Speaker 1: people kind of looked at this whole COVID nineteen thing,
Speaker 1: this quarantine as a negative thing. Oh man, we gotta
Speaker 1: stay in the house whatever whatever for me. Honestly, when
Speaker 1: they stay stay in the house, I was like, you
Speaker 1: gotta tell me twice because I don't get to stay
Speaker 1: in the house. I don't don't. I'm earlier at all,
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I took it as an opportunity to,
Speaker 1: you know, to lock back in with my kids. Of course,
Speaker 1: as job as everybody knows, my wife get back to
Speaker 1: the stuff that that matters, you know. We tend to
Speaker 1: let a lot of the stuff that don't matter matters
Speaker 1: so much in in regard to just the way that
Speaker 1: we the way do we live this thing. And I'm
Speaker 1: happy that I'm happy that this. I'm not happy that
Speaker 1: anybody lost their life, of course, you know, dutiful Code nineteen.
Speaker 1: But I'm happy that this set your ass down moment
Speaker 1: happened because it didn't need We definitely needed this moment.
Speaker 1: The earth needed this moment, right, I agree? I agree,
Speaker 1: did y'all? Some somebody told me that, uh, the olds
Speaker 1: On layer was healing itself because it was less people
Speaker 1: driving cars and whatnot. And yeah, there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: less smug and everything and there, and even like natural wildlife.
Speaker 1: But I will say the problem here in New York
Speaker 1: is these rats are everywhere, so that are like the
Speaker 1: ones on the ground put both. But you know, because
Speaker 1: a lot of the restaurants aren't open, so they're used
Speaker 1: to like drummage in through the garbage and because there's
Speaker 1: not as much of that, so and you know, New
Speaker 1: York is already kind of dirty. So we go outside
Speaker 1: and the rats are everywhere. Now, yeah, man, you know
Speaker 1: what I want to asked, because I've been watching everything
Speaker 1: you've been doing, right, do you think that people give
Speaker 1: up like too quickly in relationships and especially in marriage?
Speaker 1: So absolutely absolutely. Nowadays, you know a person will find
Speaker 1: any excuse like why are you why are you breathe
Speaker 1: so loud? You know what? You know what? We need space?
Speaker 1: This is this breathing you're doing. I can't take all
Speaker 1: this breathing. They'll find any reason to to get out
Speaker 1: of relationship nowadays, because relationships are not easy. It's just
Speaker 1: what it is. It's not easy to constantly find that
Speaker 1: common ground with another person if that person is really
Speaker 1: being who they are. Like you, two different people with
Speaker 1: two completely different outlooks on certain things. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: like other all the time. It's gonna get hard. Being faithful.
Speaker 1: It's hard first time people. For some Okay, for some people, yea.
Speaker 1: Being faithful it's not an easy thing to do. It
Speaker 1: requires discipline that a lot of people either don't have
Speaker 1: or don't want to work towards having. That's just what
Speaker 1: kind of what it is right now, you know, being
Speaker 1: quickly easy. I would push back and say that being
Speaker 1: faithful is easier than not just because I think that
Speaker 1: once you get older, like having multiple it's just gets
Speaker 1: like complicated, it's a lot of work. It costs more
Speaker 1: money than just being like with one person and not
Speaker 1: having to worry about all those things. I think it's
Speaker 1: all in a way that it's done. But I do
Speaker 1: agree with you as as you age, you start you
Speaker 1: start realizing what's important versus what's microwaves, so to speak.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, It's like it's like waiting.
Speaker 1: It's like waiting on that home cooking meal even though
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a little long and you know it's
Speaker 1: gonna be good, so you way instead of going to
Speaker 1: McDonald's re quick and grabbing a burglar. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's just so nil. What do you feel
Speaker 1: like where your issues? You and Crystal's issues when y'all
Speaker 1: decided like, all right, we're gonna have to really call
Speaker 1: it quit whether your phone, you know what, the fault
Speaker 1: lives on, default lives on both of us. I can genuinely,
Speaker 1: truly and honestly say the fault out and through both
Speaker 1: of us. I'm not gonna go too heavily into detail
Speaker 1: just because I'm not, but just I mean, the best
Speaker 1: way to put it is when you are not being
Speaker 1: honest with yourself about things, and this and this goes
Speaker 1: for both of us. It's going to be difficult to
Speaker 1: get the get that genuine from anyone from from It's
Speaker 1: not gonna be it's not gonna be a genuine uh
Speaker 1: connection if you're not being honest with yourself, If you
Speaker 1: have issues that you need to deal with, you need
Speaker 1: to deal with those issues. And if you don't deal
Speaker 1: with those issues, those issues will cause where between you
Speaker 1: and that person that you're trying to be with. And uh,
Speaker 1: that's something that we both needed to learn. You know,
Speaker 1: we both had to do some soul search. We both
Speaker 1: had to get into ourselves and go all right, let
Speaker 1: me put this mirror in front of me and figure
Speaker 1: out what's wrong with me before I turned it, and
Speaker 1: go what's wrong with you? Y'all had some y'all have
Speaker 1: some petty moments, you know during that to say there
Speaker 1: was some pettiness going on, I was like, I didn't know,
Speaker 1: never so petty. How was it? I was? It wasn't
Speaker 1: just you. I got both of you guys, though, you
Speaker 1: did have some petty moments, you know, And when when
Speaker 1: drama is drama is it is what it is. I
Speaker 1: don't think either one of us had Uh. Okay, everybody
Speaker 1: took Pinkyring as a disrecord. It was not a disrecord.
Speaker 1: Listen to the lyrics of the song. I didn't say
Speaker 1: anything negative about her. I didn't diss her on that
Speaker 1: record was flattering, No, it was a flatter. It was
Speaker 1: a song about divorce, right, Yeah, this was turning the
Speaker 1: Ring and Spinky Ring. That was the disk because it's
Speaker 1: like right in my heart, that was me saying. That
Speaker 1: was me saying, as opposed to sitting in the dark
Speaker 1: room crying my eyes out, I'm gonna keep it pushing,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it pimping. That's that was what I
Speaker 1: was saying. But that's what that's what guys do. You know,
Speaker 1: that's what guys be doing the breakup. I feel like
Speaker 1: guy on y'all breakup. No, they try to like act
Speaker 1: like they're okay, and you know, just brush it off
Speaker 1: and keep it moving. But then it comes back and
Speaker 1: affects you later because you didn't do it, and then
Speaker 1: it hits you even harder and even harder. Very true,
Speaker 1: very true. Yeah, I won't to not none of that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wrote the song uh pretty much the night that
Speaker 1: you know, the argument happened that caused. It caused us
Speaker 1: to to like separating and uh, it was a rant,
Speaker 1: but it was a classy rant. Okay, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not that dude like that because I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: That's still the mother of my kids. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I'm saying, I'm never gonna I'm never
Speaker 1: I'm not that guy. She got to live in unfair
Speaker 1: that like he might write a song about me. I
Speaker 1: gotta get like, like I decided to do nothing is
Speaker 1: inspired many songs she ain't work And then you want
Speaker 1: right now, write the new song right now. I don't
Speaker 1: want nobody else you to love, you to love I
Speaker 1: love it, Yes you the love feature my man Jeremiah. Um,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta give credit where credit is due.
Speaker 1: A lot of this song was was Jeremih already like
Speaker 1: when he brought it to me. The beat was done,
Speaker 1: the hook was already on it, his verse was done.
Speaker 1: All I did was at the parts that you did me.
Speaker 1: And that was that. So I got man, gotta get
Speaker 1: that man his props. But that must have been perfect.
Speaker 1: You're usually one right in the songs, right, so that
Speaker 1: must have been due. I wanted to I've been a
Speaker 1: fan of Jeremi for a really long time, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to work with him for a really long time.
Speaker 1: It's just whatever the schedules, you know, situation circumstances causing
Speaker 1: not to happen. I'm in a studio working on this
Speaker 1: album with my man, rock Star, you know rock Star. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, so you dope produce a dope writer. So
Speaker 1: we're working together. We're having a conversation about people I
Speaker 1: want to work with that I haven't yet. I mentioned
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Litening goes, oh wait, time up. Jeremy pulled up
Speaker 1: that night, two records that night, and one of Woman's
Speaker 1: is do You to Love Joining? So yeah, that's it's
Speaker 1: hard to get Jeremed into anything that's not music related
Speaker 1: and being in the studio related. But when it comes
Speaker 1: to music, because that dude, that dude is a musician,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think I think that
Speaker 1: in the music industry, you have musicians, you have you know,
Speaker 1: celebrities like stars, you know, like the front person, and
Speaker 1: you have you have people that do it that do
Speaker 1: it form from a musical standpoint, and that's the that's
Speaker 1: the focal point, that's the important part. And I feel
Speaker 1: like that's kind of what Jeremiah is. Just like, you
Speaker 1: know what, and I it's not so much about what
Speaker 1: I look like or what I'm wearing right now, listen
Speaker 1: to this joint. You know what I just did. It's back,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's that's the that's a different cloth. Man.
Speaker 1: Do you think that breaking up and getting back together
Speaker 1: might make your love stronger? Just because during the time
Speaker 1: of part you realize just how much you missed somebody
Speaker 1: or just the things that you need to change. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I think people break up and then they go
Speaker 1: out there and they try to find something else and
Speaker 1: it doesn't really work out, and then they realized what
Speaker 1: I had at home, that's the best thing I had.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I really couldn't said about myself. Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: You know what. It's like I said earlier. We we
Speaker 1: tend to let the outside noise get real out, you know,
Speaker 1: being opinions from friends, opinions of other people you know,
Speaker 1: you get know I g and get to reading comments
Speaker 1: and opinions from people you don't even know. You tend
Speaker 1: to let all this stuff become really really important to
Speaker 1: you for some reason, and it becomes definite to where
Speaker 1: you can't hear the person that's sitting right next to you,
Speaker 1: that's been right next to you when he was down,
Speaker 1: that's been right next to you when he was ugly,
Speaker 1: it's been right next to you when he was broke.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't hear that. You can't hear that
Speaker 1: person because all you hear is the loudness. So what's
Speaker 1: happening for worth? You know? So again, that's why when
Speaker 1: I when we were forced to sit down, you know,
Speaker 1: we got there. We got the opportunity to really look
Speaker 1: at what's important. And what's important is the fact that
Speaker 1: I would die for you, you would die for me.
Speaker 1: That's the love that we share. Everything else we're supposed
Speaker 1: to be able to work through. Everything else we supposed
Speaker 1: be able to work through on top of that foundation,
Speaker 1: and and here we are. I felt like the blog
Speaker 1: quickly tried to like pin y'all against each other and
Speaker 1: um one of the things that happened was that Crystal
Speaker 1: was seeing out at a party and she was with
Speaker 1: a guy from Black Ank Ryan. I So, how did
Speaker 1: that make you feel? When y'all are in a situation
Speaker 1: where y'all were kind of not talking, then you see
Speaker 1: something like that is that something where you call her
Speaker 1: immediately or did it kind of just confirmed to you
Speaker 1: that you're like, damn, this is really over, Like how
Speaker 1: did that work out? Um? I know Crystal. I know
Speaker 1: Crystal better than a lot of people, and I know one.
Speaker 1: I knew one hundred percent for a fact that it
Speaker 1: wasn't what everybody thought. It was, like, she's not that person.
Speaker 1: But also she also knew that was a good picture
Speaker 1: to make you mad. Yeah, that's what I was probably
Speaker 1: at least that's a good Hey, you guys, y'all know
Speaker 1: that's a good strategy. You always. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. But I
Speaker 1: knew that it wasn't that, you know, because again, that's
Speaker 1: not who that's not who she is. That's how and
Speaker 1: I saw it, and I'm like, okay, um wow, that
Speaker 1: is that is definitely petty. But I didn't. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't let it. I couldn't let it
Speaker 1: phase me. I didn't let it face. I had to again,
Speaker 1: I had to keep a print and I had to
Speaker 1: keep a pushing especially because at this point I'm surrounded
Speaker 1: by all of you know, my my crew and everybody,
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of my friends like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're single again. Why do guys very much keep that Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'm all right, you know I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: I give by myself. Yeah you know what they saying. Right,
Speaker 1: guys are the ones to celebrate the break up. But
Speaker 1: why did they do that? It's so annoying, Like then
Speaker 1: the friends are so happy, like, yes, you're a single again,
Speaker 1: while the girlfriends are like, oh no, girl, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be okay, we got you back girl. Exactly what happens,
Speaker 1: especially if the majority of your friends are single too,
Speaker 1: like they want you to bring the They also don't
Speaker 1: care if they're single or not. Majority of them, your
Speaker 1: married friends are like, yeah, we're single again, and I
Speaker 1: shout out to you, I got I got on my
Speaker 1: good brother shore. I saw you were giving the merchant
Speaker 1: shout out to Von not in a relationship. Now that's
Speaker 1: and you had a baby and everything. So that's joke.
Speaker 1: Did anybody embarrass theirselves with you, like as far as
Speaker 1: maybe jump out the window and black You know, I've
Speaker 1: been waiting for you to to get a not in
Speaker 1: those exact words, but like I've been waiting for you
Speaker 1: to break upside get my yeah, and then and then
Speaker 1: and then my way say, I will say that my
Speaker 1: d ms were more active than than they had been
Speaker 1: in along once knowledge of the divorce hit. But even
Speaker 1: more so than people jumping out the window, it was
Speaker 1: a lot of people that was that that started telling
Speaker 1: me about myself because I and in the relationship, Um,
Speaker 1: I allowed myself to change behind my marriage, like like
Speaker 1: I became a different person to to my friends and
Speaker 1: became a different person to the people that I worked
Speaker 1: with behind my marriage. And and you know that was
Speaker 1: part that was one part of that was one part
Speaker 1: of what we had to work on. That I got
Speaker 1: into a place where I felt like I couldn't be
Speaker 1: me around her, you know what I mean. I don't
Speaker 1: know how we got there. I don't know what that was,
Speaker 1: but I got into that place, and uh and and
Speaker 1: it became evident, you know, whenever we were hanging around
Speaker 1: with my friends, you know, when my friends aren't there
Speaker 1: on one way, then when she shows up, I would
Speaker 1: come another way. And it's like I didn't even realize it.
Speaker 1: So like, you know, when I when I went to
Speaker 1: my friends, like hey, I think I'm getting a divorce.
Speaker 1: It became a you know what, brother, I'm gonna say nothing.
Speaker 1: You ain't you what? You ain't you in this marriage?
Speaker 1: Like something's wrong because you're not you. I don't know what,
Speaker 1: but you you're not you in this marriage. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is what needs to happen or whatever,
Speaker 1: But now that you're in this place, now I can
Speaker 1: tell you you ain't you at for whatever reason, you're
Speaker 1: not you in this marriage? You know so, I mean
Speaker 1: I paid attention to that. I paid attention to, you know,
Speaker 1: just what I would feel when she would come around,
Speaker 1: and I and I realized what it was and needed
Speaker 1: to happen. What what conversation we needed to have. We
Speaker 1: had that conversation. We're in a great space now, you know.
Speaker 1: And and my and my friends. The cool thing is
Speaker 1: that my friends see it's who they see now. They
Speaker 1: can see that, you know, I don't feel like I
Speaker 1: have to become another person when she's around. I can
Speaker 1: be who I am, you know, around I can be
Speaker 1: me around everybody there. Well, were these different people like
Speaker 1: how do you what's different? Like what's different when? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what it's different when you're around your friends that
Speaker 1: you feel like you had you had to back then
Speaker 1: change like what is it that was different when she
Speaker 1: was just differently these different elements of my personality, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like some uh some might some
Speaker 1: a person might say that I'm a bit flirtatious. Person
Speaker 1: might say that, you know what I mean, And uh,
Speaker 1: I don't mean it to come to come across flirtatious.
Speaker 1: I'm just a very friendly person. And there was a
Speaker 1: point in our relationship where uh that became that became
Speaker 1: an issue, the point of relationship with that became an issue.
Speaker 1: I could see that point where I felt like, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, uh, wife, he's around, let me to try
Speaker 1: to avoid us getting into a potential argument later and
Speaker 1: and that, you know, and that maybe that got me
Speaker 1: the feeling like, Okay, if I can't be who I
Speaker 1: am with you, then maybe we shouldn't be together because
Speaker 1: who I am is who I am is person that
Speaker 1: I am. I'm not being because because you're around and
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that, I don't think that
Speaker 1: I should have to be. But then she also said,
Speaker 1: all right, well, I don't mind you being you, but
Speaker 1: you you definitely know the line between being you know
Speaker 1: the right. So so it really became again us going
Speaker 1: all right, what is it that's wrong with me? As
Speaker 1: opposed what is it that's wrong with you. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like, right, I didn't know the line between flirting
Speaker 1: and and being and being funny. I know thee I
Speaker 1: know when it's all right, But that's that's a bit toofore.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, we all know. We get we
Speaker 1: see what we can get away with. That's just kind
Speaker 1: of that's just what people tend to do in relationships
Speaker 1: with you don't ever want to do something like if
Speaker 1: you can't do it with your wife there and you
Speaker 1: would be uncomfortable, then you shouldn't be doing it. But
Speaker 1: she's not. That's always a good thing to see what's
Speaker 1: appropriate and what's not, Like if I'm comfortable and she's
Speaker 1: here and I and I said this or acted this way,
Speaker 1: and then when she's not here, because I think you
Speaker 1: can really measure a person by how they act when
Speaker 1: you're not around. Right, That's but I feel like, still
Speaker 1: on on the other on the flip side of it,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like you can't make someone feel so
Speaker 1: suffocating with being the souths if that's his personality, Yes,
Speaker 1: like you said, there's a line that needs to be drawn.
Speaker 1: But that's why I feel like you both have to
Speaker 1: had to work on each other because it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: what is my insecurity that I feel like I can't
Speaker 1: just let him flirt with people and just in a
Speaker 1: friendly way. Maybe you might take it too far after
Speaker 1: a while because you take everything. You know what I
Speaker 1: mean like, Okay, he's gonna go too far. I know
Speaker 1: he's gonna go too far. So I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: We're both sides hold out ladies. Now, y'are not letting
Speaker 1: your man de flirtations? I know, but you also don't
Speaker 1: want some because I did have a similar problem where
Speaker 1: I would change my personality around the person that I've
Speaker 1: been told that before. Did I've changed my personality around,
Speaker 1: But it's because they take that things that you would do.
Speaker 1: So now you feel like, damn everything, I'm doing it.
Speaker 1: But then the conversation you're supposed to go, all right,
Speaker 1: if this is what it is, okay, so you tell me,
Speaker 1: you tell me what's the line for you? I know
Speaker 1: what the line. I know what the line is. I
Speaker 1: know what I feel like the line is. You tell
Speaker 1: me what the line is to you and we and
Speaker 1: we compromise. We find a way to where both parties
Speaker 1: can be happy with the outcome. Like, that's what compromises
Speaker 1: supposed to be. All right, it's not completely you and
Speaker 1: it's not completely mean. We've both been that we can
Speaker 1: meet in the middle, and let's talk about to do.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about something antients were discussing it right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: so is this taking it too far? Right? If somebody
Speaker 1: says a girl that your friends sits on your lap
Speaker 1: but it's not in a sexual way, but maybe just
Speaker 1: not enough room in the car, Like, what's the reason
Speaker 1: why this happened? I don't know. Actually, just feels comfortable
Speaker 1: enough to do that, you know how some people are
Speaker 1: just super friendly acting. Um, yeah, that's just I can't
Speaker 1: let Yeah I'm not that's not that's crossing. Okay, what okay?
Speaker 1: What about just coming and hug and a kiss on
Speaker 1: the cheek? Is that okay? Um? I mean yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it depends on it depends on the situation. Yeah, that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Now again okay, so so the kiss on
Speaker 1: the cheek, there's a friendly kiss on the cheek, and
Speaker 1: then there's a kiss on the cheek that clearly needs
Speaker 1: more than a kiss on the cheek. It's like half
Speaker 1: on the mouth, half on the cheek again, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know the lines. Now what you do
Speaker 1: is how you do it? They do that, and then
Speaker 1: there's and then there's a not so filing way to
Speaker 1: do that. Okay, Now what if you're in the club
Speaker 1: and the girl is next to you in the club
Speaker 1: and she leans her head on your shoulder for a second?
Speaker 1: Is that too much? Why was you Angela? That is
Speaker 1: it like some sleepy like just like I'm so tired
Speaker 1: of being in the club, you know, and then next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a picture everywhere. You know, if you
Speaker 1: can't even explain that, Yeah, I think I think one
Speaker 1: part of it is is again like it's it's very
Speaker 1: good the thing that you said. You know, if you
Speaker 1: wouldn't be comfortable doing it with your significant other there,
Speaker 1: you probably should do it. Yeah, you don't want to
Speaker 1: put yourself in position to to to even to even
Speaker 1: create confusion like so, well I would so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have no girls sitting next to me and then put
Speaker 1: her head on my shoulders where somebody can stop to
Speaker 1: get you to where Now we have confusions about what
Speaker 1: happens and this this thing come on a little bit girl,
Speaker 1: and we need we need something more realistic examples. Okay,
Speaker 1: what if there's something what if you can't explain this
Speaker 1: is something that can't be explained, then clearly it's something
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be done. Like if there's no explanation for
Speaker 1: why this is feasible, then clearly, Like I got one,
Speaker 1: a female artist texts you at three in the morning,
Speaker 1: a female artist, It doesn't matter what the text she's texting,
Speaker 1: just the studio when she was texting to say I
Speaker 1: meet home. What if she texts you, let's get this
Speaker 1: piky ring me mixed going almost annoy here? Well okay, um,
Speaker 1: all right in reference to that, because I am an artist,
Speaker 1: because I am a songwriter, because I know what production
Speaker 1: is and I know what studio work is. Uh. An
Speaker 1: artist texts you at three a m is not that uncommon,
Speaker 1: you know, because we keep laid hours. That's so that's nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm common. Now. What that text message says is what's important.
Speaker 1: That's where that's where we start the line. Instagram model
Speaker 1: and she's like, you know, I want to be in
Speaker 1: your video and it's three in the morning. No no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: I mean, if that's the case, it's business. There was
Speaker 1: no none casting called the casting cursy. Hey baby, oh no,
Speaker 1: just just talked about she be in video. Let to say,
Speaker 1: one of your single friends brings a group of girls
Speaker 1: around and they come by the studio. You want to
Speaker 1: play some music, see how they feel about it, and
Speaker 1: one of them is like, oh my god, I love
Speaker 1: this song, and she kind of works on you a
Speaker 1: little uh no no, no, no no, no again. That goes
Speaker 1: back to the whole situation. It's like, too close to
Speaker 1: the private area. Yea, on my left. We don't need
Speaker 1: to know where in this in this waste right over there.
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good working on the phone. Yall had
Speaker 1: the preasure off, So all right, and ladies like for
Speaker 1: y'all because it's just interesting to me that y'all say that,
Speaker 1: because I know both Gigi and Lauri y'all, y'all don't
Speaker 1: play that flirting thing when it comes to do Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think sometimes people take being friendly as flirting,
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes we do get a little bit jealous.
Speaker 1: Like That's why I'm saying that, because I didn't know
Speaker 1: how it feels it's like I've been that person, and
Speaker 1: I've also then the person to be like, I don't
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I mean. And it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel good when somebody doesn't feel comfortable with your personality
Speaker 1: and you don't feel like you're doing anything wrong. But
Speaker 1: like you said, sometimes you just gotta sit down and
Speaker 1: be like, how would I felt that this is being
Speaker 1: done to me? And anytimes that they drink like that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Or sometimes you just gotta sit down with that person
Speaker 1: and go all right, let's discuss the line. Let's just
Speaker 1: us discussed the down to you so that so after
Speaker 1: this discussion there's never any there's no more confusion ever
Speaker 1: again because you sat down. All right, there's what I
Speaker 1: don't like. That's what I don't like. There's a susceptable,
Speaker 1: here's it's not acceptable. Cool, all right, there's what I
Speaker 1: don't like. Here's what I here, and then we find
Speaker 1: a compromise, and then we and then we run with that. Now,
Speaker 1: after that happens, if the same thing is still happening,
Speaker 1: all right, then clearly that first time get through, y'all
Speaker 1: need to have another damn conversation, perhaps one a bit
Speaker 1: more forceful than the last room. You know, like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: um he talked about because he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: the key to success and happiness. So I wonder are
Speaker 1: y'all like work? Are you working on yourselves? Or's just
Speaker 1: like a therapy situation? Because I know some people feel like,
Speaker 1: oh well I could just work internally internally on myself,
Speaker 1: but some people need a little help. So did y'all
Speaker 1: go that route right now? We all need a little help? Um?
Speaker 1: We we tried. We tried therapy once before, and what
Speaker 1: we realize is that until we could go to therapy together,
Speaker 1: we needed to go to therapy separately, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Because it's like like I got things that
Speaker 1: I gotta work through. You've got things that you gotta
Speaker 1: work through, and us trying to do it together is
Speaker 1: you know, it's distracting, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: so so that hadn't happened before we could even get
Speaker 1: to a place where it's like because for example, if
Speaker 1: I'm apologizing to you sincerely but you don't know how
Speaker 1: to forgive, it doesn't matter that if he doesn't matter
Speaker 1: how sincerely sorry I am. If you don't know how
Speaker 1: to forgive me, if you don't on how to let
Speaker 1: go of whatever it was I got person. That's as
Speaker 1: personal work like, we can't we can't do that. We
Speaker 1: can't work that out together. That's something that you gotta
Speaker 1: You gotta figure out what it is that is making
Speaker 1: is keeping you in that place where you hold on
Speaker 1: this stuff. It could be could be past trauma, could
Speaker 1: be whatever. But all I know is that I can't
Speaker 1: help you through that, and you can't help me through
Speaker 1: what I gotta do. It has to be. It has
Speaker 1: to be a conscious decision, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: If you could be critical of yourself, then are you
Speaker 1: a jealous person? No, No, I'm almost I'm almost not
Speaker 1: jealous enough. Say. What I can honestly say is a
Speaker 1: defense mechanism because there was a point in time where
Speaker 1: I was extremely jealous and and and why I wind
Speaker 1: up getting hurt immensely, you know, to where I told myself,
Speaker 1: you know what, You can't get hurt if you just
Speaker 1: don't allow yourself to care as much. Had not healthy,
Speaker 1: which is not healthy. You can't do that to you,
Speaker 1: so do now. At the same time, you can't put
Speaker 1: your happiness in another person, You definitely can't do that.
Speaker 1: But you can't. You can't be this this numb thing
Speaker 1: just walking around either. You have to allow feelings. Sure,
Speaker 1: um so no, No, not a jealous person at all.
Speaker 1: Now what about your ego? Are you like driven by
Speaker 1: your ego in any way? Really? No? Um, I actually
Speaker 1: kind of pride myself for my absence of yougo, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm not I'm not the person
Speaker 1: that needs to get all the attention in the room.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not to Hey, everybody, look over here, guys,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like Angela, like you
Speaker 1: you like you see me in social setting, I'm somewhe yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm chilling. So no, and I was coming
Speaker 1: to that. M all right, Now, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: new album because I know you've been working on new
Speaker 1: music and I'm sure this kind a lot to be
Speaker 1: inspired by. So we heard this thing, so what else
Speaker 1: can we expact? I'm still working on the album right now.
Speaker 1: I have not finished completely. I'm like three fourths of
Speaker 1: the way done. I figured too three more records and
Speaker 1: I'll be finished. Um. All of my music, pretty much
Speaker 1: my entire career, my music is always mirrored either my
Speaker 1: personal life or the life of people around me. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, this album is no exception. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of things have happened in my personal
Speaker 1: life over the last year and a half. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of things happening in the world over the
Speaker 1: last year and a half. So a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: to talk about from a lot of different from a
Speaker 1: lot of different standpoints. There's a lot of there's layers
Speaker 1: to this album because it's like there's some vibes that
Speaker 1: you've heard me on before, and then there's some vibes
Speaker 1: that you know are gonna be somewhat new, Like oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that was neo like that. That's
Speaker 1: what I was kind of searching for some of these records.
Speaker 1: So I mean you mean like genre wise or like
Speaker 1: sound wise wise, genre wise, round wise, all the way
Speaker 1: across the board. Like, I just did a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of certain on this album because I don't
Speaker 1: I'll be completely hunted with y'all. I was very much
Speaker 1: in my head at the beginning of creating this album.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like like, just let's keep
Speaker 1: it already funky. I'm forty years old, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like this is my what I think this
Speaker 1: would be my eighth ninth album. Yeah, you know, I've
Speaker 1: been here roughly twenty years. I started like I'm right,
Speaker 1: a lot of lesson and thankful about. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, it's like you know, you see, you see
Speaker 1: it's a hand racing coming up. The sound has changed,
Speaker 1: the look has changed, like what, like where do I fit?
Speaker 1: And what's happening right now? You know what I'm And
Speaker 1: I allowed those kind of thoughts to creep in, and um,
Speaker 1: what it took was me just really again blocking out
Speaker 1: the world and getting back to the reason that I
Speaker 1: do music in the first place. I never I never
Speaker 1: got into music because I want to be famous. I
Speaker 1: didn't get in music because I wanted to be rich.
Speaker 1: I got into music because somebody told me that I
Speaker 1: could actually get paid to do some ship that I
Speaker 1: was just gonna do anyway. But I can. I can
Speaker 1: defend for my family and myself with with some ship
Speaker 1: that I was just gonna do. Oh turn me up.
Speaker 1: And when you look at it from that place, you
Speaker 1: just make music for the love of making music. You
Speaker 1: don't go it's just a hit, it's rhythmic. Gonna pick
Speaker 1: this up you know all of these things that that
Speaker 1: that stand in the way of the creative processes to
Speaker 1: let them, you know, you can't, you can't think like that.
Speaker 1: At least for me, I need. I need to be
Speaker 1: able to go in and just go where my creative
Speaker 1: vibe takes me and not worry about where it's going
Speaker 1: to like right, and that once once I finally got
Speaker 1: to that place, it allowed me the confidence to start
Speaker 1: working with other writers. For a long time, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: work with other writers. I just never felt like nobody's
Speaker 1: gonna give me me better me better than me. But
Speaker 1: when I said the confidence to work with other writers,
Speaker 1: the confidence to say, Okay, I know what I can do,
Speaker 1: I know how I do things. But to to not
Speaker 1: take advantage to the fact that there are other points
Speaker 1: of view is to almost it's almost blind yourself, like
Speaker 1: it's more than one way to do every everything, you know,
Speaker 1: So why would I not take advantage of somebody else's
Speaker 1: point of view on the same thing, or somebody or
Speaker 1: you know, somebody else's point of view on the beat
Speaker 1: or maybe this word is apposed to that word, you know,
Speaker 1: the lingo that changed up a little bit. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I'm not keeping up on purpose,
Speaker 1: so too it makes sense to pull on these little
Speaker 1: young cats in and go all right, here's how I
Speaker 1: say it, and then and then how y'all say it. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's figure out how to make these two make sense, right.
Speaker 1: I really like to um, you really help people see
Speaker 1: a lot of John Austin's work too, like with them
Speaker 1: versus thing for people to realize damn, he got all
Speaker 1: them hits. And I feel like that's what's been really
Speaker 1: great about that, and I think yours in particular really
Speaker 1: did that. Yeah, man, that was a lot. That was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: We saw the Dream and Sean Garrett's uh situation, and
Speaker 1: how I kind of kind of went left a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got to dream shout out to Sean Garrett. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking. I gotta love y'all. You know they got
Speaker 1: for you? Are you always end up in some drama?
Speaker 1: I telled me. I tell me I wanted him and
Speaker 1: the Dream to go against each other. To me, that
Speaker 1: had yeah, but but there there's was set up, you know,
Speaker 1: and and it didn't exactly. Let's three can go a
Speaker 1: where you needed to go all right. So that's so
Speaker 1: John pretty much called me the next night like, yo,
Speaker 1: we should go next. Alright, cool, but let's let's set
Speaker 1: some ground rules, you know, because something. Let's let's figure
Speaker 1: out what I didn't go right with that and try
Speaker 1: to and try to, you know, try to rectify it.
Speaker 1: So we said, all right on the twenty songs a
Speaker 1: piece a minute, thirty press songs, right, bo bo bo,
Speaker 1: keep a claim, keep a classy, alright, cool, caught up Swiss,
Speaker 1: caught up Tim. That was like what it was all for.
Speaker 1: It got in and it was a class It was
Speaker 1: a classy. It was. It was a gentleman's duel. It
Speaker 1: was what it was. They even had his little glass
Speaker 1: of wine. I'm like, damn, bro was doing it like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know who. That's not right, That's all right,
Speaker 1: you gotta be you now, John, John Legend and Alicia
Speaker 1: Keys are coming up looking forward to this. If you
Speaker 1: couldn't get people advice on these versus battles as fire
Speaker 1: as like orders to play songs in and you know,
Speaker 1: because I think it's hard to tell. Sometimes I feel
Speaker 1: like people start off like not really doing the hits,
Speaker 1: and then they like, what are some what some advice
Speaker 1: you could get from having done it to make sure
Speaker 1: that you really like and did you have everything planned out,
Speaker 1: knowing what song you were gonna go against where you're
Speaker 1: more spontaneous, like oh he's playing that, let me play that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: now we um. I definitely did my research. I knew
Speaker 1: what I knew to a degree what he had coming
Speaker 1: before before it came, and I set up counter songs
Speaker 1: like all right, if you played this, I'm gonna play this,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then plus was like
Speaker 1: kind of my my cornerment here. No, that was had
Speaker 1: everybody gotta have that right, Remember Raley had the whole
Speaker 1: hype man situation and the atmosphere. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it was so ours was, you know, before the thing
Speaker 1: just really really took off. So I think we had
Speaker 1: like eight two hundred thousand people uh tune in for ours,
Speaker 1: and I just personally thought that it was a dope
Speaker 1: moment for R and B. You know, nowadays hip hop
Speaker 1: gets a bigger spotlight, that's just kind of what it is.
Speaker 1: And but for that many people to tune in for
Speaker 1: something that was like strictly R and B because I
Speaker 1: didn't even I didn't play none of my pop records.
Speaker 1: Like we stuck. We kept it strictly like you know,
Speaker 1: Beyonce and Tony Braxton and Elia Kerry, Yeah get it
Speaker 1: in the R and B space, and people stuck around
Speaker 1: for the whole time for R and B. So I
Speaker 1: was like, this is this goes beyond winning or losing,
Speaker 1: even though I personally felt like once I look back
Speaker 1: at the playlist, he won, I go, but it went
Speaker 1: past that. It was bigger than that it was. It
Speaker 1: was a it was a win for for rmy I
Speaker 1: felt good a good part of that night. I want
Speaker 1: to know who you think is gonna win on June team.
Speaker 1: M hm oh yeah, okay. So so I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm trying to I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: it hits okay, because because it's it's hits. That's that's
Speaker 1: the thing that I did. I didn't exactly agree with.
Speaker 1: It's like some battles. Even in our battle, we played
Speaker 1: some songs that wasn't necessarily hits, just something we wrote.
Speaker 1: I think that I think that you should stick keep
Speaker 1: it right. I agree with that you have some people
Speaker 1: you lost that what it is you ain't gott enough
Speaker 1: to play it hadn't had it. It had to at
Speaker 1: least charted in the top ten, because sometimes you have
Speaker 1: sons that might be your favorite. There was this album
Speaker 1: catch that they're in the general public know the hits exactly.
Speaker 1: It's a battle like it should just be hits, because
Speaker 1: mind you, if you've done an album, if you've done
Speaker 1: with the two albums, you got songs, if you could play, yeah,
Speaker 1: if it's a battle, if I'm trying to win, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like he's didn't answer that well, but you thought,
Speaker 1: and I want you to go ahead. Jes got her braids,
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, I'm going with Alicia Key you are.
Speaker 1: I love it. I hope they don't want to get
Speaker 1: what I think. I think Alicia might get it, if
Speaker 1: not to mention that that's happening, not to mention that
Speaker 1: her husband owned versus. I think that's why she's gonna win.
Speaker 1: They're gonna brig it. No, they'd be like, sorry, we
Speaker 1: lost John Legard. I don't know. You're working everybody on
Speaker 1: the line. But they're both on Liana. We don't know what.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that they're both gonna be on the piano.
Speaker 1: That's so dope that they are Oh wow, I don't know,
Speaker 1: why would you make some ship like that? Well, hey,
Speaker 1: it only makes sense. So and the last thing I
Speaker 1: want to say is, Neo, you know, I'm sure that
Speaker 1: you have to be so happy that everything in your
Speaker 1: life has come close circle. We saw Moneta and Crystal
Speaker 1: on the Live Together. They like each other, and I
Speaker 1: know so many people out there wanted to be in
Speaker 1: that situation, in that stage. You know, they've gone through
Speaker 1: things where they have lended families and it's been really,
Speaker 1: really difficult. So you know, what was that like for
Speaker 1: you to get to that process? And if you could
Speaker 1: give those people some advice, what would you say As
Speaker 1: far as the man's role and making sure that women
Speaker 1: can get along? Um, well, I mean the man plays
Speaker 1: a role in that, but not as big a role
Speaker 1: as you would think. Like it really comes down to
Speaker 1: the two women being mature enough to realize that there
Speaker 1: is nothing that we could be for about that is
Speaker 1: more important than making sure that these kids are raised properably,
Speaker 1: That these kids are raised seeing love and only love
Speaker 1: from all of this, from all of this authoritians or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's the part that that's the thing that that outweighs
Speaker 1: in beef that we could ever have mine. We don't
Speaker 1: gotta be friends if we just ain't gonna be friends.
Speaker 1: But we also ain't gonna be yelling and screaming and
Speaker 1: bickering and fighting, fussing and fighting back and forth in
Speaker 1: front of these kids, showing them that there's beef here.
Speaker 1: You know, we can be cordial. I can say how
Speaker 1: do you? When you come around, you say how do we?
Speaker 1: You go away? You know, It's it's rare, but a
Speaker 1: blessing that that, you know, Crystal and Mo actually found,
Speaker 1: you know, a way to become to become friends. It's
Speaker 1: like they talked to each other more than more than
Speaker 1: they talk to me. Now I'm not I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: little jealous, Sam, But but um yeah, it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: was definitely not easy, you know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: it's really easy to say the words. It's a whole
Speaker 1: other thing to now get into you your feelings and
Speaker 1: emotions and try to apply that. It's difficult. It's very
Speaker 1: very difficult. You know, Crystal took a lot of unnecessary
Speaker 1: backlash when we first got together because people thought that
Speaker 1: I left more for a Crystal. What people didn't realize
Speaker 1: that me and Mo had been have been separated for
Speaker 1: a year and a half before I met Crystal, but
Speaker 1: they just but you know how people just not take
Speaker 1: things and create drama and and a lot of people
Speaker 1: got that Crystal about home record and all of that,
Speaker 1: and it's like, like, nigga, what you got me into
Speaker 1: you with that? The reason for their differences though, because like,
Speaker 1: was it just that people pinning them against each other,
Speaker 1: because if it didn't overlap, but with the point of
Speaker 1: even having an issue with each other at all, but
Speaker 1: you want to like the next woman that gets it,
Speaker 1: I think above anything that they had against each other personally,
Speaker 1: it was it was the gasoline that the media put
Speaker 1: on the fire you got because it almost felt like
Speaker 1: people wanted them to be against each other, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it was real rare that anybody
Speaker 1: was trying to be like, hey, why don't y'all you know,
Speaker 1: you don't nobody says that, Like that's right girls and
Speaker 1: all that. Yeah, And it's really easy, it's really easy
Speaker 1: to talk to to to buy into that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You know, you got your friends with
Speaker 1: an opinion, She got her friends with an opinion, and
Speaker 1: it's and then you got it. Took them sitting down together,
Speaker 1: sitting down in front of each other, just them too,
Speaker 1: to come to where they are and take your friends
Speaker 1: over there, keep your friends over there. Let's let's sit
Speaker 1: and really be women about this and get to and
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of what the real issue. Once
Speaker 1: they did that, they're good. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But again, that's a difficult conversation I have. But if
Speaker 1: if I could give any advice, I say that it's
Speaker 1: one that must be had after I got out away,
Speaker 1: because we don't. The only people that suffer at the
Speaker 1: end of the day is them. Did I came from
Speaker 1: that environment. I grew up in an environment where my
Speaker 1: father was married and also had another woman that he
Speaker 1: had children brock. So there were three women bickering and
Speaker 1: there were seven ten children involved, and I was one
Speaker 1: of those children. So I saw my mother arguing with
Speaker 1: his wife from arguin with his other girlfriend and fights
Speaker 1: and busted out windows. And then I also saw as
Speaker 1: I grew up that they did come together, and I
Speaker 1: always wished for that day, Like I didn't get to
Speaker 1: have the time that I needed with my siblings because
Speaker 1: our parents were bickering. So at the time that that
Speaker 1: was able to happen and they were able to come together.
Speaker 1: I was like rejoicing it because now it's everybody's happy,
Speaker 1: everybody's in love, and I just time with my family.
Speaker 1: And I don't feel bad for wanting to be with
Speaker 1: my dad or you know, for wanting to people my
Speaker 1: dad's family, just because I get that's the only time
Speaker 1: I could to spend time with my siblings. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: powered from that. I'm I'm I'm happy for you all
Speaker 1: because I've been through that and it wasn't Nil doesn't
Speaker 1: work the same way with mom YadA, Like if she's
Speaker 1: dating somebody, do you sit down all right? Does she
Speaker 1: have you sit down with the men and or has
Speaker 1: that not happened yet? Yeah? Yeah, that's absolutely happy. Yeah
Speaker 1: she's uh, I mean I ain't. I ain't gonta put
Speaker 1: her business in the street. But I've definitely shut down
Speaker 1: and had conversations with people that were around more than
Speaker 1: just a week. You know what I'm saying, Like, all
Speaker 1: right's gonna be around. You know, we get together, we talk,
Speaker 1: you discussed the ground rules. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with your discipline, but don't
Speaker 1: touch my kids right, you know, you know, just stuff
Speaker 1: like in your mind for that is what it is.
Speaker 1: What I want is what you want. Let's figure it out.
Speaker 1: Let's find a way that from good and it's it's
Speaker 1: never it's I'll say that, it's been a very, very
Speaker 1: long time since we've had any beef any drama in town.
Speaker 1: We dood well, we're looking for us to the new album.
Speaker 1: And besides um Jeremiah. When you were asked about who
Speaker 1: else you hadn't worked with that you wanted to who
Speaker 1: else did you say? Oh? Man, Um, so everyone knows
Speaker 1: I've written a song for Beyonce. I've never done a
Speaker 1: song with Beyonce and I would love to do that.
Speaker 1: I really feel like me and Rihanna, we we long
Speaker 1: overdue for another one that I love you, you know
Speaker 1: made it's Mark. I feel like it's time for us
Speaker 1: to get in again. Uh. We talked about Jeremiah. We
Speaker 1: talked about Chris. I actually dig it in with Chris.
Speaker 1: I got one with Chris on the album. Um Uh.
Speaker 1: We talked about Todd dollar Sign actually got in with him.
Speaker 1: Who wants to be discussed. We won't be seeing John
Speaker 1: Legend because you said he was gonna lose. It was
Speaker 1: the toughest iss you. But but you know what, I love,
Speaker 1: I love I love jack Hole. Really want to do
Speaker 1: a record with Jo like I have yet to do
Speaker 1: a record about just what's going on in the world
Speaker 1: right now with the protests and black lives matter, no
Speaker 1: one like I feel like for that kind of record,
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be that would be all right.
Speaker 1: Well they ever always so talented and Shelly cool Neil,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Dude, your love
Speaker 1: is out now with you and Jeremiah. So everybody that
Speaker 1: yeah gs been riding around with the top down and talking.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the car. I've been having my
Speaker 1: Windows game, you know, with the breeze going through my braids.
Speaker 1: That's what it's real summer time. They also got to
Speaker 1: check you out on your Instagram on Sundays, right that's indeed,
Speaker 1: every Sunday I'll be on my Live, you know, just
Speaker 1: because I missed performing and missed being able to like
Speaker 1: you with my fans. Every Sunday, I'll be on my Live.
Speaker 1: We've seen the songs, uh as of right now, like
Speaker 1: at the end of every at the end of every show,
Speaker 1: I played a brand new song for the new album.
Speaker 1: Have a guest calling, you know, some be chelling, mere schelling.
Speaker 1: So yeah, every Sunday, rough day, around seven o'clock PST
Speaker 1: something like that, we'll be rugging out very perfect. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, new you. I always appreciate you,
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Love y'all. Thank you, bye by