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Speaker 1: I think the most wow part of this trade is

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Speaker 1: we have your replacement Trent McDuffie, who we think can

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy's deal, he did it in Michigan, and if

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Speaker 1: you're in Minnesota, get him with this team. We already

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Speaker 1: got good players for you to play with right. We

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Speaker 1: don't need you to go superhuman because just throw some

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Speaker 1: slants to Justin Jefferson, he'll take it fifty. Throw a

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Speaker 1: deep out to Jordan Adison. You know we got some guys.

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Speaker 1: We got a play caller Alex Smith. His first couple

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Speaker 1: of years, really four or five years was a disaster

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Speaker 1: because his coaching staff and operation was bad. Well, once

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Speaker 1: he got a high level guy in Harbaugh, and then

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Speaker 1: even when I worked for the Eagles, Andy wanted to

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Speaker 1: trade for Alex Smith or sign Alex Smith as Michael

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Speaker 1: Vick's backup. Loved him, so, like if you view him

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Speaker 1: through the lens of yeah, I don't believe this guy

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Speaker 1: is going to be the next Tom Brady Joe Montana,

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Speaker 1: But what if he just becomes a really good player

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Speaker 1: for a long time. He also just turned twenty one

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Speaker 1: years old, So when I watched him on my couch

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Speaker 1: and I went, yeah, I don't I don't really see

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Speaker 1: a top ten I'm watching him in the lens of

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Speaker 1: like right now put him. But that's not how any

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Speaker 1: coach or scout worth your salt is looking at a

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Speaker 1: guy who is young and still muldible and still think

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Speaker 1: of yourself if you're over thirty at twenty one years old,

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Speaker 1: you have a lot of growth potential. It's no different

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Speaker 1: with athletes. Guys improve, and I think Minnesota would go

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Speaker 1: And this is why I think that there's so many

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Speaker 1: people putting him there. Of like we just had success

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Speaker 1: with Cousins. We have Sam Darnald now who can start

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Speaker 1: this year, So JJ doesn't even need to play right away.

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Speaker 1: So by the time he comes in, he's got like

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Speaker 1: a red shirt year and then he can hit the

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Speaker 1: ground running. And if this goes bad for Sam Donald,

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Speaker 1: maybe by the middle of the season we can insert

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Speaker 1: him and get him some playing time. So I think

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Speaker 1: we're looking at this all wrong. Comparing JJ McCarthy to

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams as a prospect is dumb. He does not

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Speaker 1: have the stats of Jayden Daniels. But when you focus

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Speaker 1: on the future, right the next ten years, Because if

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Speaker 1: I'm drafting a guy in the top five and most

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Speaker 1: people believe JJ McCarthy is going to go in the

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Speaker 1: top five, is this guy a multiple contract guy? Are

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Speaker 1: we comfortable with the character of the football intelligence? Has

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Speaker 1: he played in big games? Well? Yeah? Has he had

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him? Fuck?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeahs has he been coached hard? Hell? Yeah, he had

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Speaker 1: crazy hardball all over him all the time. So I

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Speaker 1: do understand where it's coming from. Right now. I say

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Speaker 1: this all the time. There is no such thing as

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Speaker 1: a high floor just because your comp is Alex Smith

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Speaker 1: or Kirk Cousins and not Mahomes. You can bust no

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Speaker 1: matter who your comp is, no matter what your physical

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Speaker 1: attributes are. So much stuff is out of your control.

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Speaker 1: You need help at quarterback. Who's your play caller, who's

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Speaker 1: your offensive line? Who your skill guys? It's your defense?

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Speaker 1: Any good? How much pressure is on your team to win?

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Speaker 1: How bad your team? You know? How much metal fortitude

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Speaker 1: do you just have right away? Are you used to

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Speaker 1: a lot? You know a lot of people looking at you,

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Speaker 1: obviously coming from Michigan, which is basically NFL light. Like

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Speaker 1: I saw, Michigan just hired this coach in basketball and

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Speaker 1: he was supposed to go to Louisville, And I was

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Speaker 1: thinking for and I understand Louisville is, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: a blue blood basketball program, but Louisville financially can't mess

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Speaker 1: with Michigan. Do you know much more money the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten and the SEC have than the acc Michigan just

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Speaker 1: lost their head coach, Harbaugh, who is making probably ten

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year, so they take Sharon More. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much he's making. He ain't making nine

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Speaker 1: or ten million dollars a year, I'll promise you that.

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Speaker 1: So they're saving several million on their football coach and

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Speaker 1: they're about to expand that they've never made more money.

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Speaker 1: Louisville should not be able to compete with Michigan for

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Speaker 1: a basketball coach. And I know he's a Michigan man,

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Speaker 1: but even if he wasn't, all these people shock like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I understand the draw of the job, But financially, if

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Speaker 1: Michigan or Ohio State or now you know, Kentucky, like

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Speaker 1: the SEC in the Big Ten, money now is so

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Speaker 1: much higher than these other conferences. It's not even close.

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Speaker 1: So it's a long winded way of saying JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: what if he's the next Alex Smith? Mail Bag Time

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Speaker 1: middle Coffine mailbag, Easy to get involved, fire into my

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Speaker 1: dms at John middlecoff At John middlecoff DMS wide open fire.

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Speaker 1: In this from Ace Morning, John made an account just

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Speaker 1: for a question for the pot. He definitely did because

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Speaker 1: his Instagram name's kind of crazy. Do you think the

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Speaker 1: NFL is going to ever be publicly traded? What would

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Speaker 1: need to happen for that to come to fruition? Well,

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Speaker 1: people in finance could probably describe this five hundred times

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Speaker 1: better than me. But I would imagine, let's use in

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Speaker 1: and Out for example. In and Out is a company

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Speaker 1: that people have tried to buy or turned public for

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Speaker 1: a long period of time, but they have been a

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Speaker 1: family owned operation. I think like the granddaughter runs in

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Speaker 1: now and they print money and they just refuse to

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Speaker 1: sell to anybody. Why they're making so much money? They

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Speaker 1: don't need anyone else. And it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: like there's not a competing industry where some of these

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Speaker 1: companies that go public for the influx of cash. Who's

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Speaker 1: the NFL competing against it? So as long as they

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Speaker 1: are doing well, I don't even thinks it's a broach

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Speaker 1: subject internally. Now, you'd have to be naive. And I've

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Speaker 1: said this forever. When I was early on in my

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Speaker 1: life in the nineties, like grown up as a sports fan,

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Speaker 1: baseball was huge. If you turned on sports talk radio

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Speaker 1: ESPN at the time, which was really the only twenty

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Speaker 1: four to seven Sports Network Baseball Baseball baseball for six

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Speaker 1: months a year. I grew up before I even knew

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Speaker 1: who Colin was. I listened to Jim Rome. Baseball was

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Speaker 1: huge on that show. Guess it was as big as

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Speaker 1: sport as we had in this country. And what Michael

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Speaker 1: Jordan did for the NBA, it was every bit as

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Speaker 1: big as football in the nineties. Well now football has

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Speaker 1: lapped everything, but that's not for the foreseeable future. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be like that, but in perpetuity. So I

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Speaker 1: would never say never, But as of right now, given

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Speaker 1: how much money they are making, I would say it's

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Speaker 1: nowhere near anything like that happening. My question for the

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Speaker 1: mailbag is this, what part does character truly play in

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Speaker 1: the draft process. I've always been of the belief that

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Speaker 1: in sports, talent seems to trump anything. To a point,

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Speaker 1: does do teams truly pass on problematic talented players? I

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Speaker 1: think this is true in life right in most of

551
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Speaker 1: our businesses, you can be a crazy madman, but if

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Speaker 1: you are a cash producing individual. If you are I

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Speaker 1: just saw like Apple pays AI engineers like ten million

554
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Speaker 1: dollars Google, I mean the amount of money do you

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Speaker 1: really care if they're a little fucking nutty or crazy,

556
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Speaker 1: or have a drinking problem or whatever, probably not so

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Speaker 1: the cream of the crop. You always look past their

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Speaker 1: issues football, AI, whatever industry we're all in. It does

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Speaker 1: not matter. But that's a very very small percentage. Most

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Speaker 1: people are not the elite of the elite. And think

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Speaker 1: about the NFL draft. I don't have the percentage off hand,

562
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Speaker 1: but the percentage of people that play in college football

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Speaker 1: relative to high school is very very small. Then a

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Speaker 1: percentage of those guys that make it to the NFL

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Speaker 1: is very very small. But even in that small percentage,

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Speaker 1: let's just pick an even number. I don't know the

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Speaker 1: exact amount of guys the draft picks this year. I

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Speaker 1: think it's like two seventy, maybe two sixty. Let's just

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Speaker 1: for argument's sake, pick two fifty. Clearly twenty plus of

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Speaker 1: those guys, even in the first round. Right If NFL

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Speaker 1: teams on average have fifteen to twenty, you know, typically

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Speaker 1: graded guys as first round picks. In a draft where

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Speaker 1: you know there are a bunch of undrafted free agents

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Speaker 1: that are on the fringe, where three hundred plus players

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Speaker 1: are draftable and only two hundred and fifty actually get drafted.

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Speaker 1: Yet going into the draft, the work like the pool,

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Speaker 1: there's twenty guys viewed as way better than the rest

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Speaker 1: of the guys. Now, obviously that plays out once they

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Speaker 1: get into the workforce aka start playing football, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter as much for the elite of the elite.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter had major red flags. He was off some

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Speaker 1: draft boards. He still went ninth overall. Why he's fucking

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Speaker 1: six ' five, three hundred whatever, can run like a

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Speaker 1: linebacker and can pass rush inside those human beings don't

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Speaker 1: exist on this planet. But if Jalen Carter had been okay,

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Speaker 1: same off the field stuff, but he was six two

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Speaker 1: and a half, not as talented on film, instead of

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Speaker 1: playing at Georgia played at Fresno State, maybe he goes undrafted.

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Speaker 1: So the talent has a huge impact on Let's just

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Speaker 1: use the draft, which I think was your question for sure, Right,

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Speaker 1: Guys with issues in the past fall in the draft

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Speaker 1: all the time. Travis Kelcey third round pick. He even

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Speaker 1: said I was a major red flag coming out of college.

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, Joe Mixon, like, guys fall in the draft

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Speaker 1: for things that it's impossible to quantify. Was this a

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Speaker 1: one time issue. Is this an issue that's a non

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Speaker 1: negotiable in our franchise? Is this an issue that hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: we've met with the guy. Something happened when he was nineteen.

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Speaker 1: He's been good since we're dealing with human beings here,

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Speaker 1: It's very, very hard to tell. Tyron Matthew, I think

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Speaker 1: is one of the great stories in the history of

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Speaker 1: the league. He was kicked out of college. LSU kicked

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Speaker 1: him off the team. He has been a team captain.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he is on the Saints or not.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine he is, but on the Cardinals, on

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Speaker 1: the Texans, and then on the Chiefs wore the fucking

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Speaker 1: C on his jersey because the team voted him as

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Speaker 1: the captain. People I knew with the Chiefs around him

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Speaker 1: loved him. I mean, he's not as good as he

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Speaker 1: once was. But guy was kicked off the team. Now,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys that are in similar

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Speaker 1: situations major red flag and then have issues in the pros.

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Speaker 1: So it plays a huge role, but it's impossible to

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Speaker 1: like quantify. Everyone has a different way to gauge, like okay,

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Speaker 1: let's take him down or okay, let's not take him. Also,

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Speaker 1: the owner at any moment can say just let's just

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Speaker 1: take the guy. And that's an element that we never

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Speaker 1: truly get to find out because no GM or coach

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Speaker 1: is ever said, well, you know, we weren't quite as

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Speaker 1: sure on this guy, but the owner wanted him. Just

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Speaker 1: a crazy part of the draft. Man. It really is

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Speaker 1: one easy question for the pod. How have the Bengals

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Speaker 1: not fired Frank Pollock yet? It's a good question. I

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Speaker 1: can't even begin. I don't know. You're probably asking the

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Speaker 1: wrong guy, but I appreciate the question. Question for the mailbag.

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Speaker 1: I know the NFL isn't likely to add any US

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Speaker 1: based expansion teams in the near future, but when considering

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Speaker 1: things like other professional teams and local college programs, what

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Speaker 1: to markets do you think would make the most business

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Speaker 1: sense for the league. I don't think the league's adding

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Speaker 1: anything right. I think Vegas made a lot of sense

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Speaker 1: that they moved the Raiders. When you really look at

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Speaker 1: the recent expansion, it was an expansion. It was movement

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Speaker 1: right that they Saint Louis, they ganked him, put him

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Speaker 1: in LA and people, old school people would say Saint

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Speaker 1: Louis stole the team from US. You know, Saint Louis

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Speaker 1: and I remember Joe Buck. They all got opened up

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Speaker 1: in arms like you guys remember you stole that team

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Speaker 1: from La Oakland has a beef because the Raiders started there,

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Speaker 1: but and the Chargers just moved up the road. I

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Speaker 1: don't really think there is one. I mean, name a

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Speaker 1: city it's either grow or massive that isn't involved in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. I don't spend that much time

644
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: thinking about this topic, but I just I can't see

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Speaker 1: the league doing that, honestly. Question for the mailbag, what's

646
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: all the hype around the new hype on JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: Most of the talk is that he won a national

648
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: championship while they didn't need him to be electric throwing

649
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 1: the ball, but he gets praise for that. Just makes

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00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: me wonder why Stetson Bennett, two time national champion, barely

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00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: got any coverage during the draft at all. And he

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00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: sent me some pictures five' eleven, one to ninety. He

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Speaker 1: gave me stets and Bennett's and then he gave me

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy's. Well, Stetson Bennett was one of the worst

655
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Speaker 1: draft picks in the NFL last year by a country mob.

656
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: Think about that. The Rams drafted him number in the

657
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: fourth round and he fucking disappeared. Now I've heard things,

658
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: maybe you've things. I've heard things that I don't think

659
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: are really out there, but it's been a disaster. There's

660
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: no way around it. Now. Listen, everyone has our own issues,

661
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: but like, this is the real world. Like I'm paying

662
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: you a lot and you're not around. And clearly the

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Speaker 1: Rams are not counting on him at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they just signed Jimmy Garoppolo last year. They had to

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00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: sign Carson Wentz at the end of the season, So

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Speaker 1: Stetson Bennet's irrelevant to the NFL now. Like to me,

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Speaker 1: Stet's and Bennett's much more likely to be on TV

668
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: talking about college football in the next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: And I have no issue with him. I thought he

670
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Speaker 1: was a really solid college player. Stetson Bennett is a

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Speaker 1: multiple time walk on, played on one of the most

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Speaker 1: talented teams of all time. JJ McCarthy was like a

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00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: blue chip guy for hardball that easily helped him build

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Speaker 1: around the best teams he's ever had and obviously won

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Speaker 1: a national championship. The other thing is the hype, what

676
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: the media talks about and what the teams talked about

677
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: aren't always the same, right, So the hype on Caleb

678
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: Williams is one of those universal we're all on the

679
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: same page, where Zion Williamson or Bryce Harper. There are

680
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: certain young guys that everyone's like a lot of hype

681
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: on the player Trevor Lawrence right a Bosa like. There

682
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: are certain players that we're all kind of in agreement on, right,

683
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison, whether he goes five or eight, we all

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Speaker 1: agree he's a good player. Then there are guys like

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy that NFL people have been really intrigued by

686
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Speaker 1: him for years, for a couple of years now. He

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00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: started at eighteen, nineteen and twenty years old? Is it

688
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: sets inventedt like thirty years old and again didn't even

689
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: make it to week one, which is gone. You figure

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Speaker 1: it out. I mean, it's not that complicated to figure out.

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00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Dude has some issues. And JJ McCarthy, you know, is

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Speaker 1: viewed as a really good prospect on and off the field,

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Speaker 1: which matters. So I think JJ McCarthy's just in a

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Speaker 1: different universe as a player than Stet's invented. But the

695
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Speaker 1: other thing is like how buttoned up you are off

696
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Speaker 1: the field. That matters. That matters a lot, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think JJ has many questions when it comes to that.

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Speaker 1: Love the show and question for the mailbag. Brady is

699
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Speaker 1: being put into the Patriots Hall of Fame in June.

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Speaker 1: I know it seems likely that Belichick will not attend

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Speaker 1: the ceremony, uh, based on the last few months. But

702
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be an even bigger story if he weren't there?

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Speaker 1: So they're putting him in the Patriot Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: in June, I haven't seen that. That doesn't make that

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Speaker 1: much sense to me, Like, wouldn't you want to put

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Speaker 1: him in the Hall of Fame. I don't know exactly

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Speaker 1: how they do it, but on a game day. I

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Speaker 1: guess they retired his number last year, right? Was that

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00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: week one he was there? Yeah? He was their Week

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00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: one for the Eagle game because he didn't run out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that documentary is pretty bad.

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00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: Me and Colin. You know, Colin really likes it. I

713
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: liked it until we got to the Aaron Hernandez and

714
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: then it's like I played golf the other day with

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00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: this dude that owns a big His whole family's been

716
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: in the insurance business forever. He lives in Boston, big

717
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: Boston Accent season ticket holder to the Patriots, he says

718
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: him all his friends, just the general consensus. People are

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00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: pissed that documentary. I think jumped the shark early and

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00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: fell apart and it kind of lost me. But if

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Speaker 1: I'm Bill, I'm like, and this is what I told

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Speaker 1: the guy. Roberts eighty plus years old might be losing

723
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Speaker 1: a step or two. That human nature, that's usually what happens.

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Speaker 1: But I think Jonathan Kraft is a big driving force

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Speaker 1: in the Patriots. It's been reported on like he's basically

726
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Speaker 1: running it now. I don't think Belichick would piss on

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Speaker 1: him if he was on fire, and I think vice versa.

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Speaker 1: I think those two can't stand each other, so it

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Speaker 1: would not shock me at all. Now I think the

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Speaker 1: he's in Belichick that last press conference which was a

731
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Speaker 1: little weird where they kind of hugged and kissed. He

732
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: does there is mutual respect. They made a lot of

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Speaker 1: money together, they had a lot of him and Robert.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he would lift a finger for Jonathan Craft. Now.

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Speaker 1: I do think Tom is different. So if I was

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Speaker 1: betting Bill would show up for Tom and not say

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Speaker 1: a word to Jonathan. I've become what seems to be

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Speaker 1: a three times a day daily listener. How you put content,

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Speaker 1: you truly appreciate it. First. With the Otani news scandal breaking,

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Speaker 1: it makes me wonder if league officials feel like the

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Speaker 1: direction of gambling has taken sports, that has taken sports

742
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: is less more or the exact public headache they expected

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00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: it to be. Are they waiting for an old school

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Speaker 1: of minds in the public to change and not be

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Speaker 1: concerned or do you think they generally have fears of

746
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: game shattering game scandal? Well, think about this. For a

747
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: game shattering gambling scandal scandal, a player would have to

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00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: be paid off, a player coach. Do you know how

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00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: much money players and coaches make? Now? If Otani was

750
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Speaker 1: betting on himself to lose, I completely agree that's that's problem, right.

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Speaker 1: But if he's just betting, let's just say he didn't

752
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Speaker 1: bet on baseball. He makes eighty ninety million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: He's making two million dollars on the field this year,

754
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Speaker 1: and he's making seventy plus I read off the field.

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00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: When you have that type money in your competitive guy,

756
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: you're kind of bored. I gamble. I gamble for entertainment,

757
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: just like a lot of people. I work for my money.

758
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: So when I saw the four point five million, which

759
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: sounds like an astronomical amount to a lot of people,

760
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson was betting a couple hundred thousand dollars a game.

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Speaker 1: He was making ninety eighty seventy million dollars a year

762
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: for ten plus years, like I can bet. I bet

763
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 1: during the NFL playoffs five thousand dollars on some games,

764
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: which some people would be like, that's crazy. Other people

765
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Speaker 1: would say that's not very much. So to me the

766
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Speaker 1: money who cares, Like, we're all in business with gambling.

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00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: We're all gambling. If you have the right to impact

768
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Speaker 1: a game in you're gambling on it, that's a problem.

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Speaker 1: But if he's not, I don't think it matters at all. Now.

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Speaker 1: The reason it's a problem with a bookie is because,

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Speaker 1: like if I were to win fifty grand on DraftKings,

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Speaker 1: they would send me a ten ninety nine. If I

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00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: bet fifty grand on something and one and one fifty

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Speaker 1: so I got one hundred back, I would get taxed

775
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: on that fifty thousand dollars as income, right, I think

776
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: I've never I've never won fifty grand gambling or bet

777
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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a game. But you know what I mean.

778
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: When I bet with a bookie and I bet fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars and I win fifty I ain't getting tax

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00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: on that money. And when he takes one hundred grand,

781
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: he can't getting taxed either. It's tax evasion. I think

782
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: the story is about. It has nothing to do with

783
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: the legalities. Now California's gambling is illegal, but it's about money,

784
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: laundry and tax evasion. That's the That's why the FBI

785
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: is going after these people in twenty twenty four, especially

786
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Speaker 1: when you're talking that amount of money. If you have

787
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Speaker 1: the ability as a bookie to front someone four point

788
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: five million dollars in bets, you are either extremely independently

789
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Speaker 1: wealthy or you're working with some big conglomerate you know,

790
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: black market thing. So I think the story kind of

791
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: jumped the shark of he's gambling, Well, who gives a shit?

792
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 1: NFL players allowed to gamble. They can't gamble on football.

793
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Was he gambling on baseball? To me, that's an interesting

794
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,479
Speaker 1: story if you know, if he's not and he's working

795
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: with his interpreter. Clearly his interpreter got thrown under the bus.

796
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Speaker 1: But the BOOKIY thing is all about the taxes and

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00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: the money. When the government can't get a hold of

798
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: large amounts of money and you're not following the rules,

799
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: they're kind of come after you. That's why I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Otani had a four point five open credit line,

801
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: think of some of the other people who's dealing with

802
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy could have been dealing with millions

803
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: upon million dollars worth of bets. Meaning when he wins,

804
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: which you know clearly Otani's guy owed him four point

805
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: five million dollars. You think he's reporting that to Uncle Sam.

806
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: Hell No, I don't exactly know how he would get

807
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: that money back into the real world because cash like

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00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't walk into like the Ferrari dealership and hand

809
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: them three hundred grand for a Ferrari, right. I couldn't

810
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: show up to you know, silver Leaf down the road

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Speaker 1: if I had ten million dollars in cash and just

812
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: buy a ten million dollar house. That's it's not legal

813
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: to do any of that stuff. You would have to

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Speaker 1: prove where the money came from. So it seems like

815
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: he has some bigger problems on his hands. But to me,

816
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: the scandal is all about betting on your own sport,

817
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: which these leagues are very very strict on, which they

818
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: should be because the integrity of the game, right for

819
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: the leagues, the health of the leagues. But I also

820
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: got free. All this shit's good for business. This is

821
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: all entertainment. This is not real life. This is all

822
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: it's their real life. But the whole business model is entertainment.

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00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: Now there's a fine line of like, wwe can't be scripted,

824
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: but it's much much closer nonscripted to that than it

825
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: is like turn on the news and see them reporting

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Speaker 1: on the some war, which who even knows that they're

827
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: telling the truth either, But you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Love the podcast by far the best NFL discussion, a

829
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: lot of positive people. I appreciate all the kind words.

830
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: So many cookie Cutter shows really enjoy you and calling

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Speaker 1: collaborating on Sunday Night podcasts throughout the season. We were

832
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: supposed to go tonight, but I think we're gonna end

833
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: up going Monday, so we will. We will have a

834
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: podcast out Monday with me and him, Big Rams fan.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that if the Rams look like a

836
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender that full well believe how they finished

837
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: last year? Would Aaron Donald consider unretiring for a playoff run?

838
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: That way, he wouldn't have to go through the riggers

839
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: of the season and be kind of fresh like Eric

840
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: Weddle in twenty twenty one. If you remember when Luck retired,

841
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: they had just give him a huge deal a year

842
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: or two before. And part of when you retire if

843
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: they give you a signing bonus. Right If I like

844
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: last year Aaron Donald, I don't know the details of

845
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: his contract, but besides that, he got one hundred million

846
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: dollars in like ninety was guaranteed and he was making

847
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: thirty a year. But let's just say they'd given him

848
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: a forty five million dollar signing bonus. Part of that

849
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: is for like the next three seasons. Right, Well, if

850
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: your contract's a couple more years and I gave you

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00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: the forty five million dollar signing bonus, realistically I can

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Speaker 1: come back and be like, hey, you owe me. You

853
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Speaker 1: got to cut me a twenty million dollar check or

854
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: whatever the number. Sometimes you just like, hey, keep it,

855
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: which I would imagine the Rams would do for him.

856
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: The Colts did it with Luck because they were always

857
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: hoping he'd flip flop like I'm returning. Clear, Donald is

858
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: not just gonna be like I'm back, I'm back, guys,

859
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm ready. But he ain't gonna get fat like me

860
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: during the winter. So this is a guy that I

861
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: would imagine at any moment, like, hey, I'm kind of

862
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: getting the itch. It's October twenty fifth, Haron the fifty

863
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: third guy on our roster. We'll put him on the

864
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: practice squad. Come on home, baby. Maybe it happens in November,

865
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: maybe it happens December. Maybe it never happens. But I

866
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: one hundred percent would imagine mcveigh's gonna constant communication. Come around,

867
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: come hang out with the guys. You're welcome to work

868
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: out here. We want you to speak to the team

869
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 1: all the time. So yeah, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't

870
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: stun me at all. Anytime a young player retires who

871
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: can still really play, especially like Kelsey. For example, if

872
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: Kelsey's playing, he has to play every snap. He's the

873
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: full time starter, he's the center. There's no avoiding to

874
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: wear and tear. Bec heirn come back played like twenty

875
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: five snaps a game. I've been a diehard Steelers fan

876
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: since I was eight. I was fortunate enough to watch

877
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: the five Super Bowl run. Specifically remember being glued to

878
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: the screen watching Troy and his badass hair make play

879
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: after play legend. My question for you is this, what

880
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: is your favorite early NFL viewing experience that you remember

881
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: to this day. Can it be watching a specific player,

882
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: team game? Super Bowl? Keep up the work?

883
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: Well?

884
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: I vividly remember watching vivid would be strong. I remember

885
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: watching at my buddy's house the Niners Charger Super Bowl.

886
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: I would have been I would have been like nine

887
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: years old, and the Niners beat the shit out of

888
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: that Charger team. I guess I would have been ten

889
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: years old because it would have been in ninety five,

890
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: so it would have been ten years old. I remember

891
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: much more closely the game where Steve Young through the

892
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: game when touchdown against the Packers to Terrell Owens and

893
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: Joe Starkey has the famous called Owens Owens Owens. I

894
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: remember watching that game at this I was probably thirteen

895
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: or fourteen. Then this lady named Laura who kind of

896
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: lived down the street had been my babysitter when I

897
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: was really young, and I think she was out of

898
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: town and we were watching her house, and I had

899
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: gone over there to grab something for my mom, and

900
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: maybe I watched the game, but I remember having the

901
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: house to myself watching the game, and the next day

902
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: at school I didn't have a voice. And they had

903
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: those cool like Niner hats. I mean every team had them,

904
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: but the Niners, Cowboys, Packers all had those starter Niner

905
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: hats that kind of had like a kind of looked

906
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 1: like a stock market on the bottom. I remember rocking

907
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: that hat, so it would probably be some of that

908
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: early Niner stuff. Steve Young mid late nineties, Verse Young, Akman,

909
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: Verse Young far of just in general. Remember going to

910
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: a Giants game when they played a Candlestick in the

911
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: mid nineties. I had gone to Dusty Baker baseball camp.

912
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: Dusty Baker, Sacramento guy, and he used to have this

913
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: baseball camp at sax City when he was the manager

914
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: from the Giants, and they you go for like three

915
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: or four days and they bust you to a Giants game.

916
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: It probably was my first ever game, and Barry hit

917
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: a bomb into the outfield. I mean, Candlestick was such

918
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: a shithole, but we were all sitting in the outfield

919
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: and it was cool. Hey, John longtime listener from the

920
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: eight oh five Santa Barbara. My dad and many of

921
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: my friends went to cal Poly and I recently graduated

922
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: from USC love football and the golf content, But I

923
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: have a life question for you. I consider myself on

924
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: a relatively good path, twenty five years old with a

925
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: stable corporate job saving money. From your stories, it seems

926
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: like you've been frugal frugal times to where you are today.

927
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: Been through frugal times, it wasn't frugal. I wasn't making

928
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: any money throughout my twenties, didn't have any cash. At

929
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: what point did you feel past the comfortability threshold financially

930
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: where you could enjoy the fruits of your label? Any

931
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: tips for being smart with your money outside of tailing

932
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: your golf picks. I still don't really feel like that,

933
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, because I think in life,

934
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, you just kind of level up, right. You

935
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: start renting an apartment, and then you buy a condo.

936
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: Then I bought a house, and you know, I used

937
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: to play shot of your golf courses, and then you

938
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: play nicer golf courses, then ideally join a nicer club,

939
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: and eventually I'm gonna have a kid and maybe two,

940
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: and your life just changes. So you just kind of

941
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think, you know, I've never really related

942
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: to the guy that's like it's fine, it's almost Friday,

943
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: finally Friday. Like I enjoy what I do, so I

944
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: don't really feel And this is why my advice of

945
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: doing what you enjoy to do is I'm never gonna

946
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: stop saying that till the day I get put six

947
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: feet under the ground, because it's really really important to

948
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: your mindset. My life doesn't feel like I need. I

949
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: mean sometimes I like getting out of the house to

950
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: go to the golf course just to like see some sun,

951
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: and I my only real hobby is like go to

952
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: the gym. Like I don't do that much. My life's

953
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: relatively simple now. I would say over the last couple

954
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: of years, I've vacations would be strong, but I've got

955
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: I've done a couple of things that I wouldn't have

956
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: done in the past. But I still am very hesitant.

957
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: You know, as other people come into your life and

958
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: they want to do stuff, it's like, you know, it's

959
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: a football season or it's like the draft. You know,

960
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: something I'm still working on and it's probably never gonna

961
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 1: just go away for me. But I definitely don't feel

962
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: comfortable in the sense of like I even right now,

963
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: Like I I also could eat Chipotle like twice a day,

964
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: seven days a week. You know. I don't get me wrong.

965
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: I like a good steak at you know, in Morton's

966
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: or Mastros, but you know I like a good Taco

967
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Bell drive through as well, Subway sandwich. I don't give

968
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: a shit, So I in a weird way, I can

969
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: be boogie at some stuff, but I'm pretty simple, and

970
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: it all gets back to I just like doing this,

971
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: and I don't feel like anything sometimes like I gotta

972
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: do this. Even today I'm recording this. It's Sunday night,

973
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: at five point thirty at night, I get to talk

974
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: about football, answer questions on Instagram. I mean, this beats

975
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: me in a plumber, So I don't really think about

976
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: it like that. I guess. I guess I'm of the

977
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: mindset I kind of always want more now I've in

978
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: a healthy way, like I'm not obsessed with like I

979
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: gotta have this. I gotta make this. Like obviously, I

980
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: aspire and have aspirations and ambitions that you know, I

981
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: truly believe this kind of just keep leveling up, you know,

982
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: in a healthy way, not obsessed with like twenty four

983
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: to seven. I gotta do this, gotta do this. But

984
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: the drive and the passion for the success of doing

985
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: whatever I'm doing hasn't really changed from when I was

986
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: making twenty grand at Fresno State or the Eagles, to

987
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: the time I got to be the West Coast Scout,

988
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 1: to when I had a radio show to now doing

989
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: a podcast with Coward. I think my mindset's been relatively consistent,

990
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: so I in a weird way. I love the stock market.

991
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: I invest a lot of money. That would be my advice,

992
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: invest money. I don't give financial advice because I'm right

993
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: and wrong, but invest money, and that's the only way

994
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: to make your money work for you, especially early on

995
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: in life. But like I just I don't know, you know,

996
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: I love money because I like to invest in I want,

997
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: you know, nicer shit, but I don't. I'm not consumed

998
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: with it, So I think that helps kind of balance

999
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: me out of Like, I also don't really get envious,

1000
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, I don't lead really a normal life. I

1001
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: don't do, you know. I see my friends going on vacation,

1002
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: do a lot of fun shit, not that I don't

1003
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: get to do fun shit, but like I don't. I

1004
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: don't get caught up in that, which I think is

1005
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: very easy in twenty twenty four and you're younger than

1006
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: me that in the world we live in, like it's

1007
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: easy to compare right where they say comparison is the

1008
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: thief of joy or something that it's it's in Instagram

1009
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: can make you trust me. If you're single and you

1010
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: see your you know, people dating ex girlfriends or whatever.

1011
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: If you're struggling financially and you see you know, people

1012
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: from college crushing, right, I think the perspective always is

1013
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: like you gotta be thankful for what you have and

1014
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: do everything you can humanly possible if you want more,

1015
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: to try to get there. But I just try to

1016
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: keep kind of level headed perspective. Now it all gets

1017
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: back to you know, when I was young, I didn't

1018
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: make any money in my twenties and I never worked harder,

1019
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: never because in football you work these fucking insane days,

1020
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: nine months a year. It made nothing. So it's like

1021
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: it kind of just numbed me to the process of

1022
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: I like working, you know, I enjoy working, and that's

1023
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: why I say do something you like to do, and

1024
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: it's I think it's much easier to make more money

1025
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: that way because you'll just put more time. Most people

1026
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: would not. I don't care how much money you make.

1027
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: If you hate your job, you're not gonna want to

1028
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: work on Sunday night. The volume