WEBVTT - Transforming Pain into Purpose

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<v Speaker 1>Comeback Stories is a production of Inflection Network and iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, everyone to another episode of come Back Stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Your co host Darren Waller joined with my brother, my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>mister Donnie Starkins. Donnie, how we doing today?

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<v Speaker 3>Bro? Doing great?

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<v Speaker 4>Excited for this one, hyped up?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, this is a big time guest. If you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who this man is, you are in for

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<v Speaker 2>a treat and for a pleasure. A man who I

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<v Speaker 2>see as one of the top motivational speakers of this generation. Author,

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<v Speaker 2>a coach, a husband, father, I mean, a man that

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<v Speaker 2>can't be put in one box, and we're just honored

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<v Speaker 2>to have his time, have his voice, and to feel

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<v Speaker 2>his impact on the show. Today we got mister William

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<v Speaker 2>King Hollis in the building, Man King, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>You doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Darren Man and Donnie man Is, Like I tell you,

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<v Speaker 5>told you guys, it's been a dream of mine to

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<v Speaker 5>come on this podcast and to have a great conversation

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<v Speaker 5>with you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys do a lot, which I.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, on mental health specifically that really touches my heart.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been there multiple times in my life and it's

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<v Speaker 5>just always a blessing to see individuals that.

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<v Speaker 3>Pread coming back from some of the darkest hours of

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<v Speaker 3>our life.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>So, like I said, this is my honor to be

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<v Speaker 3>on here today.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, man, this is something that all three of us

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<v Speaker 2>not only can relate to, but we embody and we've

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<v Speaker 2>lived the triumphs and the pain of it, and we

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<v Speaker 2>know it starts very early on, at least in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'd like to know what was Keep paint a

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<v Speaker 2>picture for what growing up was like for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, man, it was like a lot of inner city kids.

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<v Speaker 5>When I grew up in the city called Pontiac, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 5>My mother, like I said, she basically my grandmother, moved

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<v Speaker 5>from Monroe, Louisiana, and basically start running numbers. She had

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<v Speaker 5>twelve children, started to cook crack cocaine and taught all

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<v Speaker 5>twelve of those dren how to do the same, include

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<v Speaker 5>my mother. So I was in a house that basically

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<v Speaker 5>was like a gladiator school for teaching people.

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<v Speaker 3>How to cook crack and say o crack.

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<v Speaker 5>But one thing about it with me, King, I always

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<v Speaker 5>noticed that, you know, our life wasn't normal. So you know,

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<v Speaker 5>but as you stay in it long enough, it began

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<v Speaker 5>to get normal to you and you adopt some of

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<v Speaker 5>those same traits, some of those same anger issues, some

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<v Speaker 5>of those same addictions. And I'm just blessed that God

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<v Speaker 5>gave me the strength to always see more than my circumstances.

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<v Speaker 5>My mother ended up moving out at fourteen years old,

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<v Speaker 5>started selling drugs.

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<v Speaker 3>In her own own place. She had me at sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>years old, had my sister at fifteen, and she was

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<v Speaker 3>molested as a child, so she eventually never healed from national.

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<v Speaker 3>She eventually started to use heroin that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, the crazy thing about it is I never

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<v Speaker 5>could notice until I became an older young man. She

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<v Speaker 5>did a great job of covering it up, covering it up,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, it just showed her strength to to

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<v Speaker 5>to just keep fighting and and and that's why I

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<v Speaker 5>got a heart for, you know, the woman in general. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>because as I go around the country speaking, I meet

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of young young women man that that that's

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<v Speaker 5>been molested and never got the help, never got the therapy,

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<v Speaker 5>and they turned into something that they're really not.

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<v Speaker 3>But to get back to my.

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<v Speaker 5>Story, Kade, Yeah, it was it was absolutely chaos, chaos

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<v Speaker 5>that that I was living in.

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<v Speaker 3>But I always I used to say, when I was

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<v Speaker 3>a young kid.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I used to walk outside in the projects, and

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<v Speaker 5>I used to always look up to the sky.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>I was always I never looked down. I always looked

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<v Speaker 5>to the sky because I never liked the picture that

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<v Speaker 5>was on the ground, the streets, the gangsters, the drug addicts,

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<v Speaker 5>just the chaos that was going on. And always seeing

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<v Speaker 5>that sky man, and I always realized that the world

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<v Speaker 5>is so big, man, and I can change my life

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<v Speaker 5>if I give it everything I got for my life.

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<v Speaker 3>And I understood that at a very young age.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, I always knew that the life that I was

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<v Speaker 5>living was not normal, and I would never accept that.

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<v Speaker 3>For my family, my wife, my son, my children. I

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<v Speaker 3>just always wanted more.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>My father got incarcerated the first time, he had to

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<v Speaker 5>do six years when I was about, say, about seven

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<v Speaker 5>or eight years old. Missed him for a long time,

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<v Speaker 5>and then he got another three years after that, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's firing to a year of a crime. Then I

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<v Speaker 5>ended up having to move back and forth, bouncing, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a minute for a foster home and then bouncing into

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<v Speaker 5>my grandmother's house. So they finally took us in. To

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<v Speaker 5>be honest with you, man, I went through a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of a lot of a lot of tearing down. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot a lot of uh uh you know, jokes

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<v Speaker 5>from cousins. You know, your mom's a crackhead, your father's

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<v Speaker 5>in jail. You're gonna be just like your father and uh. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>I tell everybody, I give God all the glory for

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<v Speaker 5>the man that I am and who I am, because

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<v Speaker 5>through all the pain, through all the thing that was

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to make me angry, God always kept love in

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<v Speaker 5>my heart.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the only thing that I wanted to exude.

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<v Speaker 5>I realized that, you know, the richest man in the

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<v Speaker 5>world is not really the man that has millions of

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<v Speaker 5>dollars in the bank account. Man, it's the man that

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<v Speaker 5>that comes home to a family. Since that's derriertable with

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<v Speaker 5>his children, teaches his son how to go further, which

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<v Speaker 5>is basically the real definition of father. And and that's

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<v Speaker 5>what I wake up every single day to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>And hey, I want to I want to hop in

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<v Speaker 2>and asked you like, through all these peaks and valleys,

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<v Speaker 2>through not only your personal life, through physically, through football,

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<v Speaker 2>mentally with your family, your situation and football, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>seeing all these things, like, was there ever a moment

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<v Speaker 2>in all of this where you realized that you had

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<v Speaker 2>a gift for speaking, or was this like after your

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<v Speaker 2>football career ended?

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<v Speaker 3>This was?

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<v Speaker 5>This was after I was it was after the football career.

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<v Speaker 5>So basically King, I ended up cracking my l one

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<v Speaker 5>vertebrate uh down. And when I when I got the

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<v Speaker 5>wrong Georgia, I ended up playing one game. Then I

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<v Speaker 5>had a mini stroke. I had to play in the

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<v Speaker 5>game because if you didn't play, they put you out

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<v Speaker 5>the house. So I played the worst game. My life

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<v Speaker 5>got cut. The mother and my child called me and

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<v Speaker 5>it was like, will are you okay? And I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing the best. At this point, we not together

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<v Speaker 5>no more. The distance it broke everything up. And uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I said, no, I need a ticket to Printing,

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<v Speaker 5>New Jersey. So it's getting closer to how to speak.

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<v Speaker 3>It started. I go to Trenton, New Jersey. I got

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<v Speaker 3>a one way bus ticket about twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Dollars to my name. I got nothing all the way.

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<v Speaker 5>The flight was from Rome, Georgia all the way to.

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<v Speaker 3>Trenton, New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 5>Trenton Freedom was the team owned by these millionaires that

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<v Speaker 5>specialize on solar pattern and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But they brung me in. I had a tryout. I

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<v Speaker 3>made the team.

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<v Speaker 5>Next day, I was in a hotel and they had

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<v Speaker 5>all the restaurants. I mean, I felt like I was rigiating,

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<v Speaker 5>even about the money. It was like I'm eating square meals.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I get there, I dominate break the single

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<v Speaker 5>game sack record on Mother's Day. And after that game,

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<v Speaker 5>I see some of the CFL scouts, So I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 5>I'm getting ready to go to the CFL. Get my

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity to go over there, and boom, at the end

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<v Speaker 5>of the season, I don't get the call from the scouts.

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<v Speaker 5>I go to a workout with one of the Toronto

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<v Speaker 5>Argonaut scouts and he basically said, the coach at Trenton

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<v Speaker 5>Freedom said that you had mental health issues. He used

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<v Speaker 5>my past story to tell him that he's not mentally

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<v Speaker 5>ready to go because he wanted to secure a bigger

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<v Speaker 5>contract for him to move up to a higher level

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<v Speaker 5>in the rental league, so he used me.

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<v Speaker 3>As a pond.

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<v Speaker 5>I found that out, cuss his ass out, and once

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<v Speaker 5>again I'm back homeless. So I go to Dover, Delaware

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<v Speaker 5>with a teammate after the season, and you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>bouncing house to house and then the coach that I

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<v Speaker 5>broke the single game sack record, Bernie Bernie Northtowski.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually was on.

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<v Speaker 5>Facebook getting a blood infusion and he saw my post

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<v Speaker 5>on Facebook, like, man, life is so tiring. I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I ever played ball again. And he

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<v Speaker 5>was like, I got a team for you, harrisburg Stampe

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<v Speaker 5>Marcus Coasting. Team down here Hersheypa. He brings me down

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<v Speaker 5>to Hersheypa. I'm in a gym doing the workout. My

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<v Speaker 5>whole right side go out on me.

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<v Speaker 3>I go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 5>They say, will you got an air one vertebrate crack?

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<v Speaker 5>You basically can't play football no more. I never tell

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<v Speaker 5>a coach this is where God come in. He comes

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<v Speaker 5>in now getting closer to the speech. He comes in

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<v Speaker 5>and and the coach cast me one day and be like,

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<v Speaker 5>will Marcus Coaster is folding the team. He's canceling up

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<v Speaker 5>the season. He no longer wants to invest in the team.

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<v Speaker 5>He's gonna shut the team down. So if I would

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<v Speaker 5>have went in that season and I probably wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 5>be talking to I've probably been a para believe it

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<v Speaker 5>or something. And Uh, I told coach about my injury.

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<v Speaker 5>He moved me into his apartment. I mean not his apartment,

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<v Speaker 5>his house with his wife and his three kids. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>the only black guy down in the reading pa in

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<v Speaker 5>his neighborhood. I'm basically staying in the basement until he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>will you want to coach the D line with this

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<v Speaker 5>Arena team. I got down here and and and read

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<v Speaker 5>and I said, for sure. I was like that, that'll

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<v Speaker 5>be honor. And that's when I learned the power of coaching.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a beautiful, beautiful thing to watch people, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>do what you teach. So one day I was speaking

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<v Speaker 5>to the players on the sideline and and I had

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<v Speaker 5>already I was getting ready to I was moving out

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<v Speaker 5>of Coach nortowsky basement.

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<v Speaker 3>Just didn't want to be a burd into the family.

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<v Speaker 3>Ain't of that anymore. So I go into the hotel

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<v Speaker 3>rooms with the players. Sometimes a player will leave with

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<v Speaker 3>a lady or a woman or anything like that. And

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<v Speaker 3>one particular day I had to sleep on side of

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<v Speaker 3>the Turkey Yo gas station. I'm sleeping on something. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>telling basically relaxing, I can call it relaxing. I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 3>on side of the Turkey Yo gas station and it's

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<v Speaker 3>early in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>I get up and the teacher that saw me talking

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<v Speaker 5>to the Kings at the game said, basically, I would

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<v Speaker 5>love for you to come speak to my young man

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<v Speaker 5>the way you spoke to those young men.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, why not. You know, I got you.

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<v Speaker 3>I could be there.

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<v Speaker 5>The school was right down the road. So I got

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<v Speaker 5>up and probably around twelve thirty and went down there

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<v Speaker 5>to the school. I spoke to five young men within

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<v Speaker 5>five minutes, and he was in tears at this point.

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<v Speaker 5>It was the first time talking about my story and

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<v Speaker 5>it broke me down. And people will be surprised by

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<v Speaker 5>telling your story. Just speaking your story out loud, it'll overwhelm,

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<v Speaker 5>it'll make you emotional.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was walking back to the hotel. I had

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<v Speaker 3>a four or five in my bag.

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<v Speaker 5>I was about to go into Abraham Lincoln Hotel and

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<v Speaker 5>committed suicide in the bathroom. About five sets before I

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<v Speaker 5>got to the hotel, I got a call from Miss Robinson.

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<v Speaker 5>Cheryl Robinson. Shout out to Cheryl Robinson. She said, will

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<v Speaker 5>how much he charged to speak? I knew nothing about speaking,

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<v Speaker 5>and I said seventy five one hundred dollars or something

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<v Speaker 5>like that. So basically I went to the hotel and

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<v Speaker 5>I went to the computer room. I typed in in

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<v Speaker 5>motivational speaking. They nothing about it. Les Brown popped up

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<v Speaker 5>man this man. I seen him speaking in the Georgia Dome.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw he talked about his painting, kept a smile

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<v Speaker 5>on his face. I just just like we used to

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<v Speaker 5>watch when we was literally watch football videos. I studied

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<v Speaker 5>this whole monnerism, but I just was myself and just

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<v Speaker 5>took pieces of what he had and used my story.

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<v Speaker 3>And I went into the assembly.

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<v Speaker 5>A week later, I got my one hundred dollars first

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<v Speaker 5>of being paid, got a standing ovation.

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<v Speaker 3>King.

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<v Speaker 5>Every five hundred students, every single student came down and

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<v Speaker 5>shook my hand.

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<v Speaker 3>Cried tears, and that was the moment I realized that

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<v Speaker 3>this was my gift the whole time.

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<v Speaker 5>And you fast forward, you know, ten years later, over

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<v Speaker 5>one point three billion views on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>Now platinum spoken word Albums history.

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<v Speaker 5>The first week of to speak during Milan Fashion Week

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<v Speaker 5>of Philipply Paris Hilton super Bowl commercial this year featured

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<v Speaker 5>in Super Bowl commercial. Last year, just did an Undermer

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<v Speaker 5>commercial with Stephen Curry and King also received the Ambassador

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<v Speaker 5>of Peace Award at Kingston, Jamaica. Spoken in Australia. And

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<v Speaker 5>it all started by me telling my story in that

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<v Speaker 5>high school. So when I tell people I realized this,

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<v Speaker 5>I realized that God this whole time, the love that

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<v Speaker 5>I had for my mother, it never really was my

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<v Speaker 5>job to save her. You know, our job to save anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>That's God's job.

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<v Speaker 5>All our job is is to basically give our message

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<v Speaker 5>and give our truth and help as many people as

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<v Speaker 5>we can.

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<v Speaker 3>But the person that can only truly get it done

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<v Speaker 3>is God.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, he turned a kid from the projects

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<v Speaker 5>into one of the you know, they say, one of

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<v Speaker 5>the greatest young speakers of this generation. And one thing

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<v Speaker 5>about my story then a lot of speakers, can you know?

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<v Speaker 5>That separates me from a lot of speakers, is that

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<v Speaker 5>when I speak, it's not that you hear me, they

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<v Speaker 5>feel me, you know what I mean. And I just

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<v Speaker 5>thank God for giving me this gift.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm setting in a home. Man, I got home, I

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<v Speaker 3>got a family, I got a wife, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And the best thing He's ever done for me is

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<v Speaker 5>make me rich on the inside before he made me

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<v Speaker 5>rich on the outside.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I'm humble. That's why I look at

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<v Speaker 3>myself as a grain of salt. On the ground. So

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<v Speaker 3>I can never look down upon people.

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<v Speaker 5>And I believe when you truly work for God, your

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<v Speaker 5>promotions become everlasting.

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<v Speaker 3>And now I'm an author. My book was I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>self published author.

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<v Speaker 5>Was putting Walmart, Barns and Nobles, Amazon Prime, It's a bestseller.

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<v Speaker 5>And man, all I can say is, I can never

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<v Speaker 5>it wasn't me. My story and my sacrifice was for

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<v Speaker 5>all the time. Right now we're living in where kids

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<v Speaker 5>are lost, women don't love themselves, young men don't know

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<v Speaker 5>who they are, They don't know how to control their emotions.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm so grateful that I'm a speaker that can

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<v Speaker 5>walk into any room and I don't care if you

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<v Speaker 5>got murderers, the killers, the drug dealers.

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<v Speaker 3>They feel me and I believe God gave me up

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<v Speaker 3>my gift to motivate the individuals that thought motivation wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>even real. And that's the blessing that I have.

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<v Speaker 5>And I tell everybody when I was telling my speeches,

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<v Speaker 5>when I was saying my speech, I was talking to

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<v Speaker 5>myself king and the world simply was listening. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>the only That's what I tell everybody, that I was

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<v Speaker 5>talking to myself. I had to speak self life and

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<v Speaker 5>to myself.

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<v Speaker 3>To be the man that I am today.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why I got a passion of spreading this

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<v Speaker 5>message all over the world. I got a passion of

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<v Speaker 5>helping with mental health because I know my story is

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<v Speaker 5>not a story that I'm just talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I lived this. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>This past Christmas day, my father and my father was

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<v Speaker 5>released from prison after doing eight years. First time seeing

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<v Speaker 5>me as a motivational speaker. I flew into Michigan, got

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<v Speaker 5>to see him, got an airbnb. You know, we first

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<v Speaker 5>got out of prison. They just want to eat all

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<v Speaker 5>the new foods, introducing them the door dash.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm feeding them.

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<v Speaker 5>And the first time in my life, I saw my

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<v Speaker 5>father as an old man. He's falling asleep. He's always

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<v Speaker 5>been this big superman god to me. And I flew

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<v Speaker 5>back home to Atlanta, and in eleven days after my

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<v Speaker 5>son was born, he was murdered and left for dead

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<v Speaker 5>in Detroit this past Christmas. So I lost my father,

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<v Speaker 5>bro I lost my mother and all that pain that

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<v Speaker 5>I had that will break a lot of meat uh

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<v Speaker 5>and women.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe that, you know, God just broke it full

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<v Speaker 5>a circle that you know, he sacrificed himself for us,

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<v Speaker 5>and they say we live in the limit the image

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<v Speaker 5>and likeness of God, and a man's job on his

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<v Speaker 5>earth to me is to sacrifice his life and sacrifice

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<v Speaker 5>himself for the betterment of his family and the betterment

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<v Speaker 5>of the young kings that's coming up from behind him.

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<v Speaker 5>So it wasn't for me to go out and try

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<v Speaker 5>to be this big celebrity. I just wanted to be

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<v Speaker 5>a man that could just say I sacrifice God. I

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<v Speaker 5>sacrifice everything to help your people and to keep love

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<v Speaker 5>and God in people heart.

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<v Speaker 3>So that that's my life king, and that that that's

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<v Speaker 3>a I give all glory to the most.

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<v Speaker 5>Hot man, all prices of mo hot for everything I

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<v Speaker 5>got and even being able to be on this podcast

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<v Speaker 5>with you, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, it's just a it's been a hell of a journey, man,

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<v Speaker 3>but the pain was worth it. Well, it's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It's cool to hear you say that it's been a

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<v Speaker 4>dream for you to be on our podcast because I

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<v Speaker 4>look at you as a speaker, and I know Darren

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<v Speaker 4>and I have talked about doing more of this speaking.

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<v Speaker 4>Darren's not going to play football forever, so it's just

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<v Speaker 4>cool for us to hear you say that it's a

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<v Speaker 4>dream to be on our podcast when we see you

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<v Speaker 4>just crushing it on the biggest stage and facing what

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<v Speaker 4>for many people is their biggest fears, talking in front

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<v Speaker 4>of a group, but not only talking in front of

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<v Speaker 4>a group, but being able to deliver in a way

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<v Speaker 4>that people can relate. And I think that's what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>hearing in everything you're saying. And that's why I relate

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<v Speaker 4>because I can feel I can feel you, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>exactly why every piece of motivation that you give people,

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<v Speaker 4>you're just talking to yourself, which is why it's why

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<v Speaker 4>it's so relatable. I have a question for you regarding

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<v Speaker 4>because I've heard you talk about how being broke as

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<v Speaker 4>a mindset, it's not the lack of funds, it's the

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<v Speaker 4>lack of belief. But what do you think right now,

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<v Speaker 4>like in the world, what do you see is like

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<v Speaker 4>the root cause or the commonality of people's broken down

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<v Speaker 4>belief systems.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Just I believe right now in the world, they killed

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<v Speaker 5>every example that can teach us. If you watch the

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<v Speaker 5>world man, all the great leaders that was trying to

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<v Speaker 5>educate and teach us and put us in the right mindset.

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<v Speaker 5>Some way, somehow, something happens soon. And now you have

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<v Speaker 5>a generation of lost souls that now they believe that

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<v Speaker 5>they believe fame and being in a light is more

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<v Speaker 5>important than family. The woman believes that being a model

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<v Speaker 5>is more important than being a mother. And you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if you have a generation of children that that doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>love themselves, that doesn't value their lives, that doesn't know

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<v Speaker 5>where they started or where they come from, you will

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<v Speaker 5>have a lost generation of people. And one thing I

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<v Speaker 5>tell people, money is not the greatest thing you can have.

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<v Speaker 5>Purpose is the greatest thing that you can have. So

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<v Speaker 5>it's so many individuals in the world right now that's

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<v Speaker 5>walking around with no purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>They have no purpose for life.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, And I tell everybody, once you find your purpose,

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<v Speaker 5>it can heal all the pain of your life. Because

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<v Speaker 5>what happens is individuals are going the wrong direction they

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<v Speaker 5>whole life. King And this is when the mental health

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<v Speaker 5>thing pops up. They're going the wrong direction their whole life.

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<v Speaker 5>And when they realize that they when they finally realize

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<v Speaker 5>they been going the wrong way their whole life. Whether

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<v Speaker 5>you have to do in the DPS, you got to

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<v Speaker 5>set your current destination to get to your final destination.

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<v Speaker 3>And when people jump off the ledge and commit suicide.

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<v Speaker 5>It's because of the simple fact that they do not

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<v Speaker 5>have the strength to go all the way back to

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<v Speaker 5>the beginning and do it the right way. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>the problem in the world. We got a first identify

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<v Speaker 5>with what's hurting us. You got a hurt world. King,

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<v Speaker 5>kings and queens like myself that buried their mothers, young

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<v Speaker 5>women that was molested and taken advantage of but never

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<v Speaker 5>got the help they needed. You got a broken society

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<v Speaker 5>where young kids are raising kids. Our grandmothers are children

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<v Speaker 5>now they're not the old elderly women. And then you

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<v Speaker 5>got men that walk around dressed as boys. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>back in the day, when you're walk wash a man

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<v Speaker 5>walk around, you will see a man in his suit.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll see a man in his shoes. You will see them.

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<v Speaker 5>You can see a man. But now you got the

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<v Speaker 5>older man competing with the younger man. The older man

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<v Speaker 5>looks like a boy. It's a scene a boardwalk Empire

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<v Speaker 5>that changed my life. And it was al Capone talking

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<v Speaker 5>to this Jewish man. So al Capone kept acting the

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<v Speaker 5>Jewish man, Why do you keep calling me a boy?

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<v Speaker 5>Al Capone's able to show the Jewish man around the city.

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<v Speaker 5>So he said, why do you keep calling me a bone?

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<v Speaker 5>They say, this is a true story. Why you keep

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<v Speaker 5>calling me a boy? And the Jewish man said, as

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<v Speaker 5>long as you wear the hat of a boy, you

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<v Speaker 5>will always be perceived as a boy, no matter if

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<v Speaker 5>you like it or not.

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<v Speaker 3>And they said, al.

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<v Speaker 5>Capone never put on a hat a boy's hat anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>He never wore regular slacks anymore. When this man told

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<v Speaker 5>him that, because he realized that in the world, the

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<v Speaker 5>way you are perceived is the way you are treated,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's not right that people treat you that way.

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<v Speaker 5>But one thing about this generation. If a boy never

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<v Speaker 5>sees a man, how can he ever become one. So

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<v Speaker 5>now you got the rappers, you got the little boosters,

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<v Speaker 5>you got all these other all these rappers.

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<v Speaker 3>That that's old enough to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be my father behaving like a child. So if a

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<v Speaker 5>child sees a man behaving as a child, he's always

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be a child. He's gonna believe being a child

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<v Speaker 5>is a man. And then he gets into a marriage

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<v Speaker 5>and don't know how to control his emotions. Something I

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<v Speaker 5>speak on often. If you never learn how to control

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<v Speaker 5>your emotions, you can never truly be a man. You

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<v Speaker 5>will always be a boy. And goes back to what

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<v Speaker 5>I told you was one of these boys, these little kids,

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<v Speaker 5>they was hurt. One of these little girls, they was hurt,

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<v Speaker 5>and when they were hurt, they.

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<v Speaker 3>Stayed that age.

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<v Speaker 5>They might have turned twenty eight this year, But when

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<v Speaker 5>that little girl was hurt, when she was twelve years old,

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<v Speaker 5>she's still twelve years old. That little boy that waited

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<v Speaker 5>at the door for his father to come home, but

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<v Speaker 5>he never came. He's still a hurt little boy, but

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<v Speaker 5>just dressing a man uniform.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I feel the.

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<v Speaker 5>World is lacking right now is therapists therapy, being able

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about their pains and being able to share

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<v Speaker 5>their pains without being talked about, or taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 5>a safe place for them to express themselves. That's why

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<v Speaker 5>I wrote this book for one day. I want to

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<v Speaker 5>get it into the schools, man, I want. I want

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<v Speaker 5>to create a curriculum where kids get up and tell

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<v Speaker 5>their stories in front of their brothers, the Hispanic brothers,

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<v Speaker 5>the Asian brothers, the white brothers, so they can see

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<v Speaker 5>our stories not too different, our pain is the same,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's gonna build the love. And then what you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna get kids doing is just like me telling my stories,

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<v Speaker 5>saying my life, it's gonna save theirs. Then the counselors

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<v Speaker 5>can set in the room and identify the red flags

0:23:51.653 --> 0:23:54.093
<v Speaker 5>just hurting these children, the things that they don't have

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<v Speaker 5>to ask some questions for. They can just ask the questions.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you get children writing books about their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you got then then you say, no, can you

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<v Speaker 3>not just a project? Baby? You're an author.

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<v Speaker 5>Your story matters. And that's what it's all about with me, man,

0:24:14.773 --> 0:24:19.373
<v Speaker 5>That's that's that's that's that's this is, this is my life, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Is to.

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<v Speaker 5>It's to inspire billions of individuals. Man, and I'm doing that.

0:24:26.413 --> 0:24:29.853
<v Speaker 5>I've done this without management. I got in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 5>God has been my manager. Man, I don't have a team.

0:24:33.413 --> 0:24:34.933
<v Speaker 5>I don't have a social media team.

0:24:34.933 --> 0:24:37.093
<v Speaker 3>You know how I get my content? People from all

0:24:37.173 --> 0:24:39.093
<v Speaker 3>over the world top it up and I take it off,

0:24:39.133 --> 0:24:40.133
<v Speaker 3>They page and post it.

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<v Speaker 5>That that that that's how I built my brand. Everything

0:24:45.013 --> 0:24:48.213
<v Speaker 5>you see is organic. That's why I was able to

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<v Speaker 5>go over million million plus views on all my videos.

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<v Speaker 5>My first speech, my football speech. The number if you

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<v Speaker 5>go to YouTube right best football speech ever, the number

0:24:56.133 --> 0:24:58.693
<v Speaker 5>one speech. I was homeless in Huntersville, Alabama.

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<v Speaker 3>King homeless. I was homeless.

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<v Speaker 5>When I was over three million views on you, I

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<v Speaker 5>was still homeless. It wasn't That's what I learned. I

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<v Speaker 5>had to realize, like God, I didn't give you this

0:25:11.573 --> 0:25:15.093
<v Speaker 5>job to become a starting rich. He gave you this

0:25:15.293 --> 0:25:18.213
<v Speaker 5>job will to say lives. So I took my last

0:25:18.213 --> 0:25:22.413
<v Speaker 5>one hundred and twenty dollars and went to Columbia High School.

0:25:23.253 --> 0:25:25.893
<v Speaker 5>A coach asked me to speak. I gave a video

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<v Speaker 5>wager for one hundred and twenty bucks. I gave him

0:25:27.853 --> 0:25:30.493
<v Speaker 5>a hundred bucks, actually because I kept twenty. I just

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<v Speaker 5>got a limit of tours, all black tours. And I

0:25:34.093 --> 0:25:36.653
<v Speaker 5>needed gas because I was leaving. I just got evicted

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<v Speaker 5>from my apartment. I go in there, I dropped the

0:25:39.053 --> 0:25:43.213
<v Speaker 5>speech to the football speech King. I leave go down

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<v Speaker 5>to drive down to Atlanta. Sleeping in the AMC Theater

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<v Speaker 5>in Camp Creek in Georgia. I'm sleeping in the I'm sleeping.

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<v Speaker 3>In the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 5>The next morning, I wake up and the videographer called

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<v Speaker 5>me and said, I posted a clip last night of

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<v Speaker 5>the speech and it's going viral.

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<v Speaker 3>On Twitter. It went viral on Twitter and now it's

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<v Speaker 3>the number one football speech in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I tell everybody there's nobody that can take

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<v Speaker 5>this away from me, because God gave it to me.

0:26:12.653 --> 0:26:14.253
<v Speaker 3>And I tell people all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>And to bring it full circle, the man that reached

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<v Speaker 5>out to me and called my phone the legendary Les Brown,

0:26:23.533 --> 0:26:26.853
<v Speaker 5>when I was homeless setting in Camp Creek Less Brown

0:26:26.973 --> 0:26:30.053
<v Speaker 5>was in the hospital getting the blood transfusion defeating cancer.

0:26:30.813 --> 0:26:33.013
<v Speaker 5>He listened to one of my speeches called the Journey,

0:26:33.213 --> 0:26:35.733
<v Speaker 5>and it starts off with I didn't come this far

0:26:36.013 --> 0:26:37.853
<v Speaker 5>to only come this far. That's the same quote Drake

0:26:37.893 --> 0:26:40.653
<v Speaker 5>and Kim Kardashian using. By the way, that's the quote

0:26:40.733 --> 0:26:41.733
<v Speaker 5>she heard on the internet.

0:26:44.173 --> 0:26:47.693
<v Speaker 3>When when he heard that, it inspired him to keep going.

0:26:48.813 --> 0:26:51.013
<v Speaker 5>He flew down to Atlanta and the man that I

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<v Speaker 5>turned on the computer the first day I ever spoke

0:26:53.213 --> 0:26:56.093
<v Speaker 5>this is God man met me in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>We met at the grocery store. First, got got a

0:27:00.253 --> 0:27:02.613
<v Speaker 3>little he loves watermelon, It's crazy.

0:27:02.933 --> 0:27:07.053
<v Speaker 5>We got some some fruit from I'm the Groceries, the

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<v Speaker 5>whole food store. Then we went to a house and

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<v Speaker 5>where he did an interview with me and passed the torch,

0:27:13.133 --> 0:27:15.053
<v Speaker 5>which is he also actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me grab something for you guys. He actually just

0:27:18.133 --> 0:27:21.333
<v Speaker 3>wrote he wrote the forward. He wrote the forward to

0:27:21.453 --> 0:27:30.013
<v Speaker 3>this book. We'll tell you, guys, let's legendary, Les Brin.

0:27:31.173 --> 0:27:35.413
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, guys, kidding me. So that's who wrote the

0:27:35.493 --> 0:27:39.693
<v Speaker 3>forward to my book. See that legendary.

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<v Speaker 5>When I say God built my career, he built my life.

0:27:46.493 --> 0:27:50.133
<v Speaker 5>He created the entity William King Hollis whatever they want

0:27:50.173 --> 0:27:54.693
<v Speaker 5>to call me. But I tell everybody, if you want

0:27:54.733 --> 0:27:58.293
<v Speaker 5>to win in life, don't ever think a man can

0:27:58.413 --> 0:28:03.053
<v Speaker 5>change your life more than God can. Because when I

0:28:03.133 --> 0:28:06.933
<v Speaker 5>had no food, he gave me meals. When I had

0:28:06.973 --> 0:28:11.613
<v Speaker 5>no underwear, he gave me clothes. When I he never

0:28:11.773 --> 0:28:14.253
<v Speaker 5>gave me what I wanted, but he gave me what

0:28:14.373 --> 0:28:19.293
<v Speaker 5>I needed. And if you work long enough, how they

0:28:19.333 --> 0:28:22.813
<v Speaker 5>say that cut will run it over, It'll run it

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<v Speaker 5>over for the rest of your life if you if

0:28:24.693 --> 0:28:26.653
<v Speaker 5>you give your life to him and you serve, and

0:28:26.773 --> 0:28:29.933
<v Speaker 5>you work for him daily. And that's the reason why

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<v Speaker 5>the kid that couldn't read they was sixteen years old

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<v Speaker 5>is a best selling author and one of the best

0:28:35.773 --> 0:28:36.933
<v Speaker 5>young speakers in the world.

0:28:37.293 --> 0:28:40.653
<v Speaker 3>And I believe my story has it haven't even hit

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<v Speaker 3>the ice bird of of what I would do and

0:28:45.093 --> 0:28:48.693
<v Speaker 3>how many people I will aspire leading up to this

0:28:48.813 --> 0:28:53.893
<v Speaker 3>next generation. And I believe that I was created for

0:28:54.053 --> 0:28:55.493
<v Speaker 3>this very moment in the world.

0:28:56.253 --> 0:29:00.333
<v Speaker 2>And my time is My time is now, no doubt, man,

0:29:00.453 --> 0:29:04.413
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, you're embodying everything that a comeback

0:29:04.613 --> 0:29:09.573
<v Speaker 2>story is. And you know, I believe God is ultimately

0:29:09.653 --> 0:29:12.173
<v Speaker 2>the author of all of our comeback stories, you know,

0:29:12.373 --> 0:29:16.253
<v Speaker 2>like the timing of it. We don't know the exact

0:29:16.293 --> 0:29:18.413
<v Speaker 2>circumstances of it. We don't know the amount of pain

0:29:18.493 --> 0:29:21.973
<v Speaker 2>we have to endure. We don't know. But ultimately, if

0:29:21.973 --> 0:29:24.893
<v Speaker 2>we endure, Ultimately, if we push and uh and have

0:29:25.053 --> 0:29:27.293
<v Speaker 2>faith that it can't get better, it will get better.

0:29:28.373 --> 0:29:28.693
<v Speaker 3>It will.

0:29:28.933 --> 0:29:30.773
<v Speaker 2>And but the people in order for them to believe

0:29:30.813 --> 0:29:32.613
<v Speaker 2>that they need new examples, I feel like there's so

0:29:32.693 --> 0:29:34.573
<v Speaker 2>much truth in what you said about the examples that

0:29:34.653 --> 0:29:36.853
<v Speaker 2>we have. The leaders that we have, they're not the

0:29:36.933 --> 0:29:40.213
<v Speaker 2>same quality, you know what I'm saying. And that's where

0:29:40.253 --> 0:29:42.653
<v Speaker 2>that's where us three come in. Like having this platform

0:29:42.813 --> 0:29:45.133
<v Speaker 2>and being able to utilize this platform to give people

0:29:45.213 --> 0:29:48.413
<v Speaker 2>new examples and to have men that are successful and

0:29:48.533 --> 0:29:52.013
<v Speaker 2>real and authentic that have pain, that have tough experiences,

0:29:52.573 --> 0:29:54.653
<v Speaker 2>and that develop real lessons from that, and that there's

0:29:54.693 --> 0:29:56.893
<v Speaker 2>so much more substance in the riches and the fame,

0:29:57.053 --> 0:30:02.453
<v Speaker 2>but just real character growth, character development. Man, you really

0:30:02.573 --> 0:30:04.693
<v Speaker 2>are that, and you are and you know you're your

0:30:04.733 --> 0:30:06.693
<v Speaker 2>story isn't over. You've come back from many things, but

0:30:06.773 --> 0:30:09.573
<v Speaker 2>you're still coming back here, coming back to bring to

0:30:09.653 --> 0:30:11.893
<v Speaker 2>bring people with you, man, And so I just want

0:30:11.933 --> 0:30:14.013
<v Speaker 2>to honor you and say that we appreciate you whether Man.

0:30:14.013 --> 0:30:14.693
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, damn Man.

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<v Speaker 5>That's truly an honor Man once again, Donnie, thank you again,

0:30:18.813 --> 0:30:22.493
<v Speaker 5>big guy. You guys are amazing man, And thank you

0:30:22.573 --> 0:30:27.213
<v Speaker 5>guys for creating this podcast. You know for so many people, Man,

0:30:27.493 --> 0:30:29.173
<v Speaker 5>and Donnie, I want to get with you one day.

0:30:29.693 --> 0:30:32.453
<v Speaker 5>I want to create a podcast myself, man. So it's

0:30:32.453 --> 0:30:33.893
<v Speaker 5>a lot of things I need to learn on that

0:30:34.053 --> 0:30:36.493
<v Speaker 5>in that podcast, wheld, I think I could create I

0:30:36.613 --> 0:30:39.933
<v Speaker 5>go viral mostly everybody podcast, and I'm tired of go

0:30:40.053 --> 0:30:43.173
<v Speaker 5>a viral other people podcasts now my own. But you know,

0:30:43.813 --> 0:30:46.333
<v Speaker 5>I see a podcast as a beacon of light to

0:30:46.493 --> 0:30:49.773
<v Speaker 5>inspire and help a lot of people, man, And hopefully

0:30:49.853 --> 0:30:52.813
<v Speaker 5>we all could collab on that stage one day. Man

0:30:52.893 --> 0:30:56.733
<v Speaker 5>and do and do something, do something magnificent. I actually

0:30:56.773 --> 0:31:00.173
<v Speaker 5>have an idea man, and and it's uh, it's called healing.

0:31:01.013 --> 0:31:02.853
<v Speaker 5>It was it was called healing with William King Hollin

0:31:02.933 --> 0:31:05.173
<v Speaker 5>and it's basically what you get on a whole bunch

0:31:05.213 --> 0:31:07.253
<v Speaker 5>of group of men. You gotta breakout session with women

0:31:07.773 --> 0:31:09.133
<v Speaker 5>and what you want. What I want to do is

0:31:09.173 --> 0:31:10.933
<v Speaker 5>I want to talk about I want to give them

0:31:10.973 --> 0:31:12.893
<v Speaker 5>a speech on mental health. But I also want to

0:31:12.933 --> 0:31:17.013
<v Speaker 5>open the room for every man to share their traumas together.

0:31:17.613 --> 0:31:19.493
<v Speaker 5>I want to cry tiers together. I want to let

0:31:19.533 --> 0:31:22.613
<v Speaker 5>that pain out together. I want to heal together inside

0:31:22.653 --> 0:31:25.333
<v Speaker 5>the room. And I believe you guys would be great

0:31:26.253 --> 0:31:28.013
<v Speaker 5>to be a part of that, and and and and

0:31:28.213 --> 0:31:30.413
<v Speaker 5>and really help a lot of people. Uh there, and

0:31:30.493 --> 0:31:33.173
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people look up and admire you for

0:31:33.293 --> 0:31:36.013
<v Speaker 5>your game. But I tell everybody for a long time

0:31:36.453 --> 0:31:39.453
<v Speaker 5>that brother is a huge advocate for mental health.

0:31:39.413 --> 0:31:41.613
<v Speaker 3>And and way more than a football player.

0:31:42.453 --> 0:31:44.733
<v Speaker 5>So I just want to thank you Kaine for being

0:31:45.173 --> 0:31:48.413
<v Speaker 5>the stand up individual that you are man and being

0:31:48.453 --> 0:31:51.293
<v Speaker 5>the leader that you are. And Donnie, thank you brother

0:31:51.813 --> 0:31:56.853
<v Speaker 5>for always staying consistent, always supporting. I seen your likes,

0:31:56.933 --> 0:32:00.253
<v Speaker 5>I seen your shares and and it means a lot

0:32:00.333 --> 0:32:04.013
<v Speaker 5>coming from a brother like yourself. Man, So once again, brothers,

0:32:04.093 --> 0:32:07.413
<v Speaker 5>I am extremely honored to have the opportunity to be

0:32:07.453 --> 0:32:08.613
<v Speaker 5>on this podcast today.

0:32:10.213 --> 0:32:11.213
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you will.

0:32:12.213 --> 0:32:14.613
<v Speaker 4>I feel like we heard your story. And there's so

0:32:14.733 --> 0:32:17.933
<v Speaker 4>much adversity and just in the football and how much

0:32:18.013 --> 0:32:21.733
<v Speaker 4>rejection and hurdles you had to face, but also your life.

0:32:21.813 --> 0:32:25.093
<v Speaker 4>So we'll have to there's so many just one liners

0:32:25.133 --> 0:32:28.013
<v Speaker 4>and quotes and a lot of fire that we didn't

0:32:28.053 --> 0:32:29.893
<v Speaker 4>get to, so we'll probably have to get you back

0:32:29.933 --> 0:32:32.613
<v Speaker 4>for around two. Maybe you can, maybe you can take

0:32:32.693 --> 0:32:37.813
<v Speaker 4>us out and just let us understand the listener out

0:32:37.853 --> 0:32:41.293
<v Speaker 4>there that just can't understand why this pain, how it

0:32:41.533 --> 0:32:44.773
<v Speaker 4>possibly could be necessary. Can you just take us out

0:32:44.813 --> 0:32:46.533
<v Speaker 4>and tell us why pain is necessary?

0:32:47.053 --> 0:32:52.493
<v Speaker 5>Probably pain is the Neto theory because pain is the

0:32:52.573 --> 0:32:54.133
<v Speaker 5>only thing that can strengthen you.

0:32:54.973 --> 0:32:55.133
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:32:55.373 --> 0:32:59.813
<v Speaker 5>I was watching this show on the Discovery Channel. I

0:32:59.933 --> 0:33:01.573
<v Speaker 5>think it was the Discovery Channel, but it was the

0:33:01.693 --> 0:33:05.293
<v Speaker 5>jiu jitsu coach and practiced this thing on his fighters

0:33:05.293 --> 0:33:07.293
<v Speaker 5>where he hits him in the same place over and

0:33:07.453 --> 0:33:11.333
<v Speaker 5>over and over again, and the fighters start to say

0:33:11.413 --> 0:33:14.653
<v Speaker 5>that this is painful, but the coach will say, what

0:33:14.773 --> 0:33:17.013
<v Speaker 5>if I told you you could take more pain, But

0:33:17.133 --> 0:33:18.693
<v Speaker 5>as you continue to hit him in.

0:33:18.733 --> 0:33:23.053
<v Speaker 3>That same spot, the pain that he thought was pain

0:33:23.573 --> 0:33:24.573
<v Speaker 3>no longer was pain.

0:33:25.533 --> 0:33:30.173
<v Speaker 5>And what I tell everybody is pain is the thing

0:33:30.293 --> 0:33:34.693
<v Speaker 5>that separates those guys that gets the opportunity and fails,

0:33:36.533 --> 0:33:39.373
<v Speaker 5>and that other person gets the opportunity and to seize

0:33:39.453 --> 0:33:43.093
<v Speaker 5>by any means necessary as a man. And I don't

0:33:43.133 --> 0:33:46.013
<v Speaker 5>want to speak for women. I just know right now

0:33:46.213 --> 0:33:51.253
<v Speaker 5>for a man, you can't be a king without pain.

0:33:52.053 --> 0:33:54.853
<v Speaker 5>If you go back and you do your research, every

0:33:54.973 --> 0:33:59.333
<v Speaker 5>great king that became a king had to take a loss.

0:34:00.493 --> 0:34:04.173
<v Speaker 5>He had to lay down and bleed awhile. He had

0:34:04.293 --> 0:34:07.293
<v Speaker 5>let down and bleed awhile so he for him to

0:34:07.373 --> 0:34:10.053
<v Speaker 5>become who he was born to be. So what I

0:34:10.173 --> 0:34:13.613
<v Speaker 5>tell everybody the pain is the portal to the purpose.

0:34:14.973 --> 0:34:16.733
<v Speaker 5>And once you get through the pain and you get

0:34:16.813 --> 0:34:19.093
<v Speaker 5>to that purpose, it won't be a human being on

0:34:19.213 --> 0:34:21.173
<v Speaker 5>this earth that will be able to stop you from

0:34:21.173 --> 0:34:24.293
<v Speaker 5>accomplishing anything you want. If you want to turn that

0:34:24.373 --> 0:34:27.133
<v Speaker 5>vote onto a ferrari, you can do it. If you

0:34:27.173 --> 0:34:29.653
<v Speaker 5>want to turn that apartment into a mansion, you can

0:34:29.733 --> 0:34:32.093
<v Speaker 5>do it. And if that family tree is rotten.

0:34:33.573 --> 0:34:34.453
<v Speaker 3>You let it go and you.

0:34:34.533 --> 0:34:38.373
<v Speaker 5>Replan another one. You water it different, you take care

0:34:38.413 --> 0:34:42.373
<v Speaker 5>of it different, and you love on it different. But pain,

0:34:42.493 --> 0:34:47.773
<v Speaker 5>my friends, is the portal. The greatness can't get there

0:34:47.813 --> 0:34:50.773
<v Speaker 5>without it. God got to test you.

0:34:54.533 --> 0:34:57.653
<v Speaker 2>That man, sir, on that No, that's a mic drop man.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate y'all checking us out. Appreciate you king from

0:35:01.133 --> 0:35:01.813
<v Speaker 2>being here with us.

0:35:01.893 --> 0:35:02.053
<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We hope you guysure to take some and from this

0:35:05.413 --> 0:35:07.253
<v Speaker 2>into your own journey. I know I have, I know

0:35:07.333 --> 0:35:10.013
<v Speaker 2>Donnie has as well, So appreciate you guys. Join in.

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