WEBVTT - Ep. 7: How to Pose with Goldfish 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.280 I too can picture myself standing there and blowing forty 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:09.559 shots at permit a storm. They say, this town that's 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:12.119 about to be lit up. You go to Walmart parking lot, 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:14.200 you kind of put your blinders on, you walk through it, 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.079 You pretend like you don't see anything. You get whatever 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.599 you need done. Sleeper Marcilla pods Son in case of 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:28.560 epic fishy ship happens in my dreams. Good morning, degenerate anglers, 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.720 and welcome to Bent, the fishing podcast that the cast 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:33.760 of clerks would have been listening to at the quick 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:40.240 Stop had podcasts existed in I'm Joe Surmelli, A Miles 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.199 Nulty and uh and just hearing a reference to clerks 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:45.680 makes me well, I guess it makes me want to 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.199 cover myself in flannel and go to a Tower Records. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:52.199 All Tower Records on South Street in Philly, r I p. 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.240 I spent so much time and money I didn't have 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.240 there anyway. Besides podcasts, do you know what else they 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:05.480 didn't have at the quick Stop? In what's that Delicious 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:10.320 Black Rifle Coffee? 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Yeah, man, dude, 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.600 I'm already feeling it out here on the East Coast. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.840 The nights are noticeably cooler the real thing, though, I 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.360 recently helped my neighbor coveries pool, which is kind of 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:03.240 the final finder. Um that. Yeah, while great fall fishing looms, 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:07.640 I guess so does that long covid winter. Uh yeah, 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.000 pools are really not a thing out here. I don't 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.160 know a single person with him because because five days 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.600 a year you can use it. Yeah, our our fall 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.680 started last month. You know, that's when when things got cool, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:20.880 which I I don't mind. I look forward to it. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.480 I like the fall. But I know what's coming right 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.120 and and right about this time. With that knowledge sitting 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.200 in my head, I'd like to be planning a trip 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:35.560 someplace warm, you know, like someplace warm and salty with 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:40.320 boat drinks and and big fish, and like that's that's 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.079 what I want to be thinking. It's not like it's 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.200 not like I take those trips every year. It's not 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.520 like I jet off to the Southern Hemisphere every year. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.960 But I do like to imagine myself there, right And 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.919 we don't get to do that because no one's going 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:56.119 anywhere right now. But thanks to all of you out 0:02:56.120 --> 0:03:00.400 there who keeps sending us these copious emails nomin your 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:04.079 favorite fishy watering holes from across the globe, I can 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.600 still kind of take a little mental vacation. I get 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:10.800 to live vicariously through you. Would appreciate and we'll tell 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.960 you what we can get, so I appreciate it too. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.760 both Joe and I read all of these and and 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.280 sometimes we actually get to, you know, sail away with you, 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:25.200 like we do with this week's that's my bar best 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:29.360 God damn bar tender from tim buck To to Portland, Maine. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.880 The Portland argument for that Matter. This week's That's My 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.800 Bar nomination comes to us from listener Spencer Foster. Spencer wrote, 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.080 I'm an archaeologist who works in Belize during the summer. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.880 Every time I finish a dig season, I take a 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.360 few days to vacation and fish on a small island 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:53.160 called kay Coker. In nine, a hurricane split this island 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.839 in two, creating a channel known to the locals as 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.360 the Split. This channel is a popular hangout for locals 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.320 and tours to like for swimming, diving, and fishing. Towards 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.600 the center of the channel, fishermen can hook into multiple species, 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:10.720 including barracuda, snapper, parrot, fish, jack, and even the odd kobea. 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.520 Directly next to the Split is the Lazy Lizard Bar 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.680 and Grill, a beautiful little beach side awaysist that serves 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.359 cold Belican, a local Belize and beer, and hot fried conk. 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.000 As I'm throwing out cut sardines and squid, I can 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.280 listen to the reggae tunes drifting out of the bar. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.560 If I get drained by the Caribbean sun, I can 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.440 wander over and fuel up on calamari and a coke 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:37.000 while watching young locals free dive for lionfish using homemade spears. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.120 My visits coincide with the off season, so I get 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:44.799 to enjoy this without swarms of tourists. The global pandemic 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.400 prevented me from visiting The Lazy Lizard this summer, but 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:52.120 I'm already looking forward to next year. Now. This nomination 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.480 just has so much going for it. There's a little 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.960 bit of history, like a personal anecdote, but most important 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:05.880 that vivid description. Yeah man, this did just That's sold 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.240 it for me. It takes me back to my honeymoon 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.560 and the kunk Shack and turks and caicos which we 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.000 we ate at on day one and then every other 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.560 day they're after because it was it was just that mellow. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.920 They were like bone fish cruising around and like conquer 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.880 a million different ways, which is a food that I love. 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:27.080 So um. Yeah, it's it's I think we're all feeling 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.960 that little bit of of bummed out about not getting 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.920 to hit some of these joints this year because of COVID. 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:35.680 It'll be waiting for you, man, And I appreciate the 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.520 the the comment about hitting it in the off season 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.840 because you've probably been to a lot like I've gotten 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.440 to visit so many cool bars in my travels. And 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.160 because we're there fishing in the cold season or you know, 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.400 a different time of year, it's not like peak tourism time. 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.960 I know what he's saying, Like, it's a different vibe 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.359 when you're not there when it is jam packed with people, 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.440 or if it's jam packed it's only with the locals. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.360 It's a totally different experience. And I don't know about you, Joe, 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.480 but personally I've never been to these and now I 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.680 haven't either. That is one of those places that I've 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.280 read and heard so much about, like the culture and 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:09.520 the people in the ecosystem, and you know, obviously how 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.080 good the fishing is. That I've always wanted to go. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.960 And you know, dude, I didn't have any plans to 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:19.200 travel there in but the fact that I can't, that 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.279 I'm actually barred from doing so, just makes me want 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.960 to go so much more. And then we get this 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:28.880 email and I'm reading it and I'm like momentarily transported 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.280 out of my lockdown life and I'm I'm just for 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.040 a minute, I'm not sitting in my home office, which 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.560 is really just a plastic folding table in my bedroom, 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.400 staring at this little screen. I'll stand in hip deep 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.279 in the Blue Caribbean with a rod in my hand, 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.840 and like some crusty salt on my shirt and like 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.279 a sunburn just starting to blossom on my arms. And 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:51.280 I could almost taste that Bellikan and conk, even though 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.520 I've never had a Bellican, but I could imagine it, 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.680 and I was. I was there for a minute. So Spencer, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.440 thank you for that like momentary vacation that I just got. Yes, 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.520 it was just in my mind. It was an incredible description. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.599 And I too can picture myself standing there and blowing 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:12.520 forty shots at Permit the entire time. I just got it. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:16.000 Just gotta throw a live crab at him. It's amazing. Um. Alright, Spencer, 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:18.480 we hope you get back to kay Cooker soon. Uh 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:22.200 just remember when you do and it's overrun with degenerate 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.440 ben fans. The next time you go, you'll have only 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.240 yourself to blame. And for the rest of you who 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.440 want to blow up one of your favorite bars and 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.440 and have all of us crawling all over it, please 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.200 send us an email to Bent at the meat Eater 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.440 dot com so we can continue building up this amazing 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:43.680 segment of great bar recommendations. So while we all feel 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.000 the pain of not being able to jet off to 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.320 Belize right now to visit the Lazy Lizard, I can 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.360 tell you you're free and clear to visit Diane's Pop 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:56.160 Top in Pembine, Wisconsin. At least you could have such 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.520 a great bar name. At least you could as of 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.360 my us visit there in late June, so you know, 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.800 back it up. Hold on, you got to drink in 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.960 like a real live bar last summer. You went to 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.200 a bar to drink. We're not talking about your back 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.600 deck with like a home painted sign lit up with 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.120 string lights and neon beer lights, right, real bar. I 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.160 have that too in my backyard. But no, this was 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:22.840 This was a real bar, and it was the only 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.160 real bar I drank in all of last summer. And 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.800 I won't lie, man, and I felt weird about it. However, 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:31.760 the only people in the bar were the bartender and 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.000 the guys I was with, right, I mean, you know, 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:39.800 Diane's popa Top wasn't exactly raging like Studio fifty four, um, 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.800 But there was a sign behind the bar, you know 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.960 those black signs that are like litt And then you 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.120 used like the neon pasteli markers over them to write 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.959 the specials of the day existing bars, that's the only 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.480 place that they're They're like, whoever came up with that 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.120 only cells to bars? Yeah, I know exactly what're talking about. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.280 So there was one of those in in in this 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.280 bar and it said, due to COVID nineteen, we will 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.720 be staying open because I'd rather be drunk when the 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.640 world ends. So I had no idea what the specials were, 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.640 but I got that message loud and clear, and I 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.360 was like, you know what, Okay, give me a peber, 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:16.320 give me a PBR. But I made a new friend 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.400 while I was up there, and you're about to learn 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.400 all about him in our segment dedicated to letting professional 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.400 guides and captain's vent about stupid things their clients do. This, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:36.800 my friends, is Smooth Moves. Why joining us today on 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.200 Smooth Moves? My good buddy Tim land where, owner of 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:44.120 Tight Lines Fly Fishing company in northern Wisconsin. What's going on? Brother? 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.360 Not much? How are you doing? Man? I am good man, 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.600 I miss you and having spent a few days sharing 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.160 stories with Tim um, I know this is gonna be 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.200 a good smooth move. Remind us how long You've been 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:59.360 a professional guide since I was probably eighteen years old, 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.280 so and guiding part time from eighteen until now when 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.720 I'm forty seven, So it's been a couple of years now. 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:13.160 It's so yeah, yeah, right. A lot of sun, man, 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.360 a lot of sun. So you do a lot of 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.280 small mouth fishing, a lot of muskie fishing. Uh, and 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.600 you've seen some goofiness. So so hit us man, give 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.280 us the w t F moment that comes to mind 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.319 that just stopped you in your tracks. I know it's 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.200 probably a hard decision. There's a lot of those moments, Joe. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.960 But I'd have to say, as a guide, you know, 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:36.880 you have certain pieces of water that you go down 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:38.760 that may have some dangers and things on it. And 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.240 we have one specific little back channel that we fish 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.480 all the time, and over the course of about four years, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.960 a paper hornets wasp nest is built on it and 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.480 it is massive. It's like the three ft long draping 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:56.280 from the tree hornets on it. But every time I 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.200 sneak through this, you have to tell your customers, like 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.199 ladies and gentle man, grab a seat, I'm going to 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.960 sneak through this. You point out the hornet's nest. You 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:09.160 point this out, I mean like like a lot, Like 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.240 that's a paper hornet's nest. And you know, when people 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.840 are excited about fishing, they see greasy water, they start 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.640 to see through the guy's eyes, they start to see 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:20.720 a spot that they have to fish. And this particular day, 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.280 the guy just, I mean he just kept casting, kept 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.960 casting when we see this greasy slick of water, and 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.960 the dude stands up and I can see him stand 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.800 up and line up, and before the words get out 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.920 of my mouth, he sends a rope through that hornet's nest. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.480 I mean that like the double hall, like the full 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:41.400 oh dude, And immediately I watched it wrap around the 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.280 entire nest, like it wasn't going to disturbed the nest. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.880 And at this moment, it's like the Holy ship moment 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:51.439 of like, ha, I wonder what we're gonna do now, 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.600 because we are just a hair maybe ten feet downstream 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:57.160 from this hornet's nest. So I had to tell the guy. 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:03.160 I'm like, okay, very calmly, sit down own it. Pull 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.600 my EpiPen out from the side hatch of my boat. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.680 So so we get downstream and I have the guy 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.439 rip off all of his fly line without and I 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:15.720 can see the hornet's nest wobbling up there with the 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.640 current pulling the line. He pulls all of the fly 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.280 line out and we just get downstream, and now we've 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.520 got about another fifty yards of backing on top of 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.080 the fly line, and I'm like, okay, you're gonna have 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.640 to pull it tight now. And he pulls it tight, 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.840 and he cuts the hornet's nest directly in half. Fellas 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:37.520 there had to be I don't know, between a million bees, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:41.960 and and it was just crazy because you could see 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.840 them all freaking out, the bees freaking out because I'm sorry, 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.840 I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. I had no words 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.000 for him on the I'm sorry. We get downstream and 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.160 I could see like the massive bees coming closer to 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.880 figure out where. Like the disturbance wasn't like I'm giving 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.160 everybody like the critigue, like, okay, we all get out 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:00.480 of the boat. We're gonna have to get out of 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.600 the boat. So I'm just gonna jump in because like 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.720 we're somebody's gonna go into anaphylactic shock if we don't. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.720 But fortunately the vs were disoriented and they dispersed but 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.960 that was one of the most holy ship moments I've 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.640 had because I had dodged that nest for years. Well, 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.480 I was gonna say, did you are did you also 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.880 ruin a landmark? Because that's one of those things with guides, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.960 like when you talk like, yeah, we were just just 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.400 downstream of Hornet's nest. It was it was. It was 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.200 one of those things because if somebody fished that back channel, 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.800 like you were going past Hornet's nest. And and then 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.000 I came back and told the fellows the story about it, 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.040 and they're like, oh, man, that was a cool Hornet's nest. 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:42.920 I just gotta jump in here to him and give 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.400 you credit on the like, okay, strip off the line 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.960 very very quickly, Like that could have gone really without 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.200 without quick thinking, that could have gone much much, much 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.960 worse than it did. And and getting it getting enough 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.160 scope out there that you could, you know, give it 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.040 a yank without them finding you was a stroke of 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.520 brilliance in a very tense moment. So like, kudos to you. Man, 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.320 that's a good guy, because most people I know would 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.240 have just yanked down in one shot and it would 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:13.160 have been just yeah, yeah, I mean, and and the 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:14.760 fact that you got to him before he started his 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.640 front cast. I mean it was little little little quick applause, 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.440 thank you, thank he knew it. And and the thing is, 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.920 I will say, myles though, like looking back on it, 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.400 like I had played out that scenario in my head 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.520 every time I went past that hornet's nest, like somebody's 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:37.680 gonna catch it, you know. You know, man, people think 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.200 good guiding is like all about just finding the fish, 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:42.840 knowing where the fish are and what they're eating, but 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.400 it's it's not. I think a good guy is the 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.840 guy who like has a positive mental attitude all day 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.480 because rest as short, Like I'll be piste off about 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.920 something and he's the guy that's like assuring me that 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.880 my skills will come together and there's fish right around 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.760 the bend. But that's just what I look for. Yeah, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.040 it's the cheerleader aspect, right, like is a cheerleader aspect. 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.840 There's the psychologist as by the counselor aspect, like a 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.840 good guy. I can't remember said a good guy is 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.000 like a bartender and a counselor who can't prescribe meds. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:11.800 I don't know some some I butchered that quote, but 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.360 it's something like that just finding the fish. Though for 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.800 guid's that's truly bare minimum. That's like C minus level guiding. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.200 If all you know is where the fish are, really 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.880 good guys do so much more. And I think Tim's 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.960 instincts in that situation are the perfect example, right, because 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.920 like he's got that guy feeding out the line instead 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.080 of letting the client just yank his way into anaphylactic shock, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.280 you know, And and all the while he's still rowing 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.560 the boat and piloting it and and thinking about four 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:45.040 different things ahead. Like that's a good guide. That's that's 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.320 managing to to do several different things at once. Like 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.160 I give him a lot of props there, and and 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.120 he's got solid instincts for sure. Just like I mean, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:57.800 I think I think it's safe to say all good 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:02.840 anglers trust their instincts. You agree with that, yeah, oh absolutely, yeah, 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.760 even like if they're mostly wrong, but they will just 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.360 insist that their instincts are spot on all the time. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.320 I'm not I'm not saying our instincts are right, but like, 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.200 if you don't have confidence in what you believe and 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.920 yourself as an angler, you're screwed. You're not catching shit. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.240 But like, when do you know, like how do you 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.680 know when to trust your instincts? Or when do you 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.000 admit that your instincts are totally full of ship? Like 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:27.520 how do you know how to figure that out? I don't. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.120 I just generally assume that six of my instincts are 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:35.520 full of shit every time. But this question, I see, 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:36.960 I see where you're going here, and this question of 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.320 self trust verse self doubt, I think, uh, it's an 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.280 important one to us fisher folks. So Miles here is 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.280 going to delve deeper into it. In this week's weekly word, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:53.560 Webster's Dictionary defines fish as The word for this week 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.920 is perseverate. I first learned this word from an old 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.360 girlfriend in the middle of the conversation and where she 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.840 was becoming an ex girlfriend and was listing the personality 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.359 traits she most hated about me. The common definition is 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:12.320 to repeat something insistently or redundantly, but the word comes 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.840 from psychology, and yeah, that X was a psych major. 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:20.359 The words clinical definition is the repetition of a particular response, 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:24.119 regardless of the absence or cessation of a stimulus. In 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.400 other words, it's when we keep doing something long after 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.639 that thing has stopped working. All right, So some of 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.879 you are probably wondering what the hell ex girlfriends and 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.560 clinical psychology terms have to do with fishing, And that's 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.159 a valid question. But I think this word and a 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.359 similar one with a slightly different meaning, get at one 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:45.200 of the central questions we all faces, anglers. The Latin 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:50.840 roots of perseverate are per meaning through, and severus, meaning 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.679 strict or earnest. These are also the roots of another 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:58.399 word that might be more familiar, persevere, which means to 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:03.280 persist steadfastly in pursuit of an undertaking task, journey, or goal, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:08.800 even if hindered by difficulty, distraction, obstacles, or discouragement. Perseverating 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:13.880 is bad, persevering is good. But how do we identify 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:17.160 the line that separates the two. Anybody who spent any 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.800 significant time fishing knows this dilemma. You you have an 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.880 idea of what should work, like, say, a cold front 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.080 just pushed through, and you know, you just know the 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.320 fish are going to be sluggish, so you work finesse tactics, 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.000 slow and deep, but it ain't happening. What do you do? 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.480 Do you switch it up, go with something you have 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:40.440 less confidence in, or just keep pushing what you think 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.800 should work and have confidence that if a fish is 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.400 gonna bite anything at all, it's what you're doing. All 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.520 good anglers persevere. We keep casting, keep working patterns and 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.920 systems that we think should catch fish. But at what 0:18:55.119 --> 0:19:00.320 point does persevering turn into perseverating? When are we being patient? 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.480 And when are we just repeating the same action and 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.680 hoping for a different result. You know that whole definition 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:11.440 of insanity thing. Really, this etymological distinction is the timeless 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:16.280 and central question of fishing. Should change spots, change bates, 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:21.240 change retrieves, or keep grinding it out, trust my first 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.960 instinct and wait for the bite to turn on. I 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.600 can't answer that question for you, but I do think 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:32.800 that knowing the difference between perseverating and persevering separates the 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:38.400 good anglers from the great ones. And on that note, 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.760 you have officially persevered through the first half of our show, 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.040 which brings us to the part where we pump you 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.800 full of info on recent fish related happenings so you 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.560 sound more hip to the scene at the bay check. 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:59.200 Let's roll out some fish news. Fish news that escalated 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:03.880 quickly our top story this week, though not actually part 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.400 of fish News Proper Meat Eaters Season nine, Part one 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:12.679 is now streaming on Netflix. Yes, yes it is. If 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.520 you can't get out and fish this weekend, which sorry 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.000 for you, but you got an option. You can binge 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.920 your way through some fresh media episodes. And for all 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:24.000 of you out there who completely lacks self control, we 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:28.159 are exercising it for you this season. Part two of 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.480 season nine will come out early next year. So just 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:33.600 consider this like our civic duty. It's it's like portion 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.600 control for media. You can't have the big gulp, you 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.840 just get like the mini can. Well I'm not I'm 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.080 not entirely sure I'll be fishing this weekend. I'm gonna 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.560 be too busy sulking and rehashing in my head how 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.360 I lost news last week. I mean, you're still up, man, 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.720 I don't know. I don't know why you'd be sulking 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:57.760 over still being ahead all time. I have appealed this 0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:59.840 to the High Court of Meti Eater just so you know. 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:03.800 But yeah, I know. It's it's gonna get ugly. It's 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.560 gonna cost me a lot of money, but apparently not 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.159 enough Radio Shack gift cards to fill. But that's okay, 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.000 because I'm feeling pretty good this week. As a reminder, 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.800 Miles and I have no idea which news stories related 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:18.720 to fish and fishing the other guy has found. This 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.639 is a competition and it is judged at the end 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:27.520 by our podcast engineer Phil Taylor. Okay, Soil Phil, All 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.879 hail Phil. Phil is the man. Uh And this is 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:32.880 a risky move for me because I get to lead 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:38.159 off and I'm going first. I gotta come in a 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.639 little somber though, So we're gonna kick this off with 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.680 a tragic tail that makes my blood positively boiled. This 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:49.040 comes to us from USA Today headline fans rally behind 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:53.439 pro Best angler after robbery. A Pro Best angler from 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:57.920 Kentucky was robbed of more than fifteen thousand dollars worth 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.800 of gear after arriving in Texas for a weekend tournament, 0:22:00.880 --> 0:22:05.320 but Matt Robertson still competed after receiving an overwhelming show 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:09.040 of support. Now, other sources on this story say that 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:13.399 the value of the goods was closer to twenty thousand dollars. Okay, 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:18.159 Robertson arrived in Jasper, Texas last week in advance of 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:22.080 the Bassmister Central Open on Sam Rayburn reservoir. His truck 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:26.280