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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: We are back with Paul Sieber and Paul I was

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Speaker 2: talking to the producers. Were all excited about you being

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Speaker 2: on the show because we know you got so many stories.

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Speaker 3: So let's get to him.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear about the craziness that seems like

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Speaker 2: it could have some kind of real tentacles to it.

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Speaker 2: About Albert Einstein in his intern at Area fifty one,

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Speaker 2: which I've never heard of before this book of yours

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Speaker 2: came out.

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Speaker 4: It was an interesting story from multiple angles, and I

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Speaker 4: had not heard of it either until the college person

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Speaker 4: that went with him. The story she had passed away.

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Speaker 4: That was when the story came into news. Story was

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Speaker 4: that I guess it was in the early nineteen fifties.

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Speaker 4: Albert Einstein was invited to speak at a conference in Chicago,

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Speaker 4: and he took a college student who was his assistant

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Speaker 4: and female student. He did Yale so that smart you know,

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Speaker 4: smart girl, and that he didn't tell her anything about it.

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Speaker 4: He said, we're going to this conference. They go to

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Speaker 4: the conference in Chicago, they get to Chicago, they're met

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Speaker 4: at the plane. The person who meets them says, we lied. Instead,

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Speaker 4: we're taking you to a secret place. So Einstein, you know,

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Speaker 4: he's Einstein. Sure, why not the girl, she's obviously, you know,

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Speaker 4: his assistant. She's supposed to come along. He brings her.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't question whether it's appropriate to bring a young girl,

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Speaker 4: let alone a college student with him. So they get

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Speaker 4: into another plane. No one tells them where they're going.

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Speaker 4: They end up landing in a desert, so kind of

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Speaker 4: hint to where they might be met by someone in

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Speaker 4: a trench coat. Always a bad sign when you're met

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Speaker 4: by someone in a trench coat who takes them to

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Speaker 4: Area fifty one. Now to her report, later she said

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Speaker 4: that they were taken inside, they were met or they

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Speaker 4: met aliens living aliens. She said they were taken with

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Speaker 4: the aliens. They did. Einstein was allowed to communicate with them.

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Speaker 4: She was not. Apparently they were they were older aliens.

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Speaker 4: They didn't know how to speak to college students, so

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Speaker 4: he went in and he talked to them. Then she

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Speaker 4: said that they took her into a room where a

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Speaker 4: crash spaceship was and I think, if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 4: she's the only female end room. So she's a young

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Speaker 4: college student, female college student in a room with a

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Speaker 4: bunch of guys with a smashed up spaceship, so you

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Speaker 4: know what they're doing. They're kicking it, they're lifting the hood,

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Speaker 4: they're looking all over the place. She can't see it

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Speaker 4: at all, so she has you know, much of her

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Speaker 4: testimony is what Einstein told her later and uh, so

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Speaker 4: she gets to see everything. She she meets the aliens

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Speaker 4: the as they're leaving. She has sworn to secrecy as always,

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Speaker 4: you know that way all these stories go. So of

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Speaker 4: course if we're hearing about it now, that means she

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Speaker 4: broke the secret. And what happened was someone uh in

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Speaker 4: the in the two thousands found out about this story,

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Speaker 4: found out rumors of it from and from someone else,

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Speaker 4: and managed to track her down and did an interview.

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Speaker 4: She felt that enough time had gone by she could

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Speaker 4: tell the story, and and she did. She shared the

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Speaker 4: story shortly before she passed away. So there it is.

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Speaker 4: So so you know, a night uh really interesting UFO story,

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Speaker 4: especially the Albert Einstein angle. You know, the genius who

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Speaker 4: would who would we today if aliens came to visit

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Speaker 4: us today? Who would be genius number one? That was

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Speaker 4: the first question.

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Speaker 2: A good question is that who you, But would you

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Speaker 2: really want to introduce him to a space alien?

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Speaker 3: And is he won a ready? He might be Maybe.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I would go in with ten Ken Jennings Jeopardy

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Speaker 4: they have, yeah, the Jeopardy guy. I think I think

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Speaker 4: they'd have more fun with Ken Jennings than with Elon Musk.

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Speaker 4: He'd be trying to sell him an electric spacecraft or something.

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Speaker 4: But uh so so so that was my first My

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Speaker 4: first question. The second one was if this happened today.

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Speaker 4: If this happened today, would you rich if this were you,

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Speaker 4: would you take a college student with you to go

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Speaker 4: a space a spaceship. I'd be terrified. You know, Number one,

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Speaker 4: they're going to be taking so they're not going to

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Speaker 4: be They're going to want to total with the alien.

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Speaker 4: That's the first thing they're going to do. You know, Yo,

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Speaker 4: you can't do that, you can't take selfies.

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Speaker 3: Then no, I would.

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Speaker 2: I would totally take an intern because my TikTok would

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Speaker 2: start popping after that.

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Speaker 3: I don't see why not.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I got to think about the future.

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Speaker 2: You gotta think, Paul, So now I know you you

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Speaker 2: you worked in Houston for a while. I know you

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Speaker 2: met some of the astronauts who actually went to the Moon.

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Speaker 2: Do you, as a reporter ever asked the question, and

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Speaker 2: do you get an answered?

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Speaker 4: That's funny. The back then, I was in the computer business,

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Speaker 4: so I was trying to sell both of them. The

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Speaker 4: two gentlemen that I met were Jeans Cernon and Dick Gordon,

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Speaker 4: who were both who both walked on the Moon. So

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Speaker 4: I am one of the fortunate people to be able

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Speaker 4: to say that I met two of the twelve people

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Speaker 4: who walked on the Moon. At the time, they were

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Speaker 4: both in the computer business, and I was trying to

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Speaker 4: sell them computers. So I never asked either either one

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Speaker 4: of those two guys if if they had any kind

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Speaker 4: of alien encounters. The I'll tell you a funny story.

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Speaker 4: But Gene Cernant is not only is he known as

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Speaker 4: the last person to step on the on the Moon,

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Speaker 4: he's also the most famous astronaut of the Slovak ethnic group.

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Speaker 4: And it just so happened that that's that's my ethnic

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Speaker 4: mom to tell her that I admit an astronaut Gene Cernant,

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Speaker 4: and that's all she cared about was the fact that

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Speaker 4: he was Slovak. And you know what a wonderful thing.

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Speaker 4: I met a fellow Slovak who was on the moon.

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Speaker 4: I said, oh, that's not that's not the point, mom.

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Speaker 4: But some of the other ones, you know, uh, buzz Aldrin.

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Speaker 4: Buzz Aldrin talks about seeing spaceships. There's a couple of

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Speaker 4: couple of the Gemini astronauts that did the when they

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Speaker 4: were learning how to doc spaceship. Uh, they they commented

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Speaker 4: on seeing things flying by the spaceship. And you know,

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Speaker 4: we talk about the the the pilots that have seen

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Speaker 4: the tick tap UFOs today, and we believe them because

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Speaker 4: they're pilots. They're trained, they're well trained. They're not gonna that.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to embarrass themselves by saying, you know,

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Speaker 4: I mistook a piece of a spaceship for a UFO.

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Speaker 4: So I believe that the astronauts were the same way.

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Speaker 4: The later reports that come from NAS and say, oh

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Speaker 4: behind them. No, it's not. These guys are smart, these

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Speaker 4: saw something strange and could not recognize it. If they

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Speaker 4: saw something strange, it was something strange. So so so

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Speaker 4: so if any any eyewitnesses that I would I would

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Speaker 2: He sounds sort of like you take some approach to

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Speaker 2: where I do is where uh, you know that there's

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Speaker 2: some humor in it, but you also like I kind

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Speaker 2: of feel like I might be believing you kind of

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Speaker 2: go back and forth a little. Maybe you haven't seen

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Speaker 2: the actual evidence yourself. That's that's concrete. But what do

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Speaker 2: you think it is about us in America that we

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Speaker 2: need to nervously laugh about this instead of be like, okay,

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Speaker 2: what is that? What is the part of us that

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Speaker 2: wants to make a joke about it?

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Speaker 4: Good question, Good question. It's a stress relief. It's you know,

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Speaker 4: I also taught about humor. I've done a lot of

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Speaker 4: jobs that I like to tell people I'll do anything

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Speaker 4: for money, like the two guys on the on the

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Speaker 4: three Guys on the on the New Heart Show. I

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Speaker 4: worked for a T shirt company that was promoting kind

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Speaker 4: you know, I shouldn't tell that story without having one

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Speaker 4: ready to tell. I'm gonna caught me on that one, rich,

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Speaker 4: So there was a point behind all of that. The

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Speaker 4: oh so so. One of the greatest stretch releases that

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Speaker 4: we have is the nervous laughter. That's why it's called

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Speaker 4: nervous laughter. It's a way to to ease ease the tension.

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Speaker 4: We leave the tension in our body, and if you're lucky,

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Speaker 4: if you're lucky, the person who you're with who's making

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Speaker 4: you tense, will laugh too. That's what I always hope

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Speaker 4: will happen in an alien encounter, if I'm an alien encounter,

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Speaker 4: because sure I'm gonna I'm gonna laugh nervously. I'm also

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Speaker 4: I hope this alien has a good sense of humor,

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Speaker 4: because I'm gonna say something funny about the fact that

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Speaker 4: he looks like the micheline man.

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Speaker 2: Sure, why did they even appear unto you if they

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Speaker 4: You know, I would hope so I would hope that

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Speaker 4: that's what they're looking for. But you know you you

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Speaker 4: wanted to talk about some of our rock stars.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Hendrix, Yeah, right deep into the belief.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know he's Hendricks, He's Hendrix, He's Purple Hayes.

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Speaker 4: You know it is Purple Hayes a drug reference or

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Speaker 4: is it an alien reference? Is are you experienced? Is

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Speaker 4: had a UFO experience? If you dig into Jimmy Hendrix's

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Speaker 4: he became the Jimmy Hendrix, he had a band in

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Speaker 4: So they're in some old chaloppee as we used to

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Speaker 4: call him back then, afraid that they're going to get

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Speaker 4: stuck with no no heat. And he claimed that a

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Speaker 4: front of them. That's my kind of alien rich. You know,

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Speaker 4: it could come like picking up trash.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: We had the pogo stick of aliens that were picking

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Speaker 3: I think that's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the mixt thing. You know, they'll be they'll be

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Speaker 2: And didn't Jimmy also believe he had ties to Mars itself,

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Speaker 2: or he believed he was from Mars. That's that's a

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right. He said that on more than one

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Speaker 4: played the guitar with his teeth. He set his guitar

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Speaker 4: on fire. You know, do normal human rock stars do that? No,

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Speaker 4: only Jimmy Hendrick put all of that together. There's a

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Speaker 4: famous story that one of his last concerts in Maui,

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Speaker 4: in between I think it was a multis he did

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Speaker 4: multiple concerts in one day and in between concerts when

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Speaker 4: tenth the multiple people around him along with him saw

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Speaker 4: UFOs who could have been you know, coming to hear

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Speaker 4: fact that he was going to die pretty soon because

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Speaker 4: he you know, he's one of the members of the

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Speaker 4: twenty seventh Club, but so so Hendrick of all people,

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Speaker 4: some other repirement. He's naked, of course, because he's John Lennon,

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Speaker 4: he's allowed to be naked. He goes outside nine o'clock

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Speaker 4: with John Lennon. And so that was their encounter, you know,

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Speaker 4: He used two different cameras. Now, this was had to

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Speaker 4: the the drawings that he.

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Speaker 2: Made and acknowledging them as UFOs are they just appear

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Speaker 4: He was acknowledging that he had an experienced and which

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Speaker 4: mister spoon Bender, who also claimed that he met John

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Speaker 4: Lennon later after that after he was back with Yoko,

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Speaker 4: and they gave him something, and what they gave him

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Speaker 4: this was a golden egg. Very few details exist at

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Speaker 4: least from John or familiar as well as to what

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Speaker 4: And and John gave it to our Gelli. Sogella claims

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Speaker 4: Am the egg Man. Could there be some connection between

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 3: Kind of makes a little sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Not to put too final line on it, but you know,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Hendrix, the Beatles, the Stones, John Lennon, a lot

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Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred percent. Rich. That's the

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Speaker 4: Rolling Stones. Most of the original other than Charlie Watts,

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Speaker 4: I also think that that other creative people as well, writers,

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Speaker 4: minds are more open to being receptive, to being curious,

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Speaker 4: maybe the messages aren't directed to them specifically, but they're

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