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Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three and out

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Speaker 2: podcast Fugazi Friday. Hopefully everyone is doing well, Probably not

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Speaker 2: as well as Patriot fans because they are living high

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Speaker 2: on the hog. They're nine and two, their quarterback looks sweet,

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Speaker 2: their head coach is a badass with a mustache, and

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Speaker 2: they're rolling the Jets. On the other hand, it was like,

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Speaker 2: we need a quarterback to save us. Good luck with that.

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Speaker 2: Another disastrous season for the New York Football Jets, and

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Speaker 2: we'll dive into that game. One pet peeve of mine

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Speaker 2: that I'm seeing happening a lot that are trying to

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Speaker 2: blame owners instead of general managers for some of these trades.

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Speaker 2: And a fugazi that we had today as well as stuck.

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Speaker 2: He stuck you. We'll basically go over most of the

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Speaker 2: NFL games, a couple college games at the end, but

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Speaker 2: pretty good slate. We got some you know, Chiefs, Broncos,

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Speaker 2: some really good games Sunday, so excited for that slate.

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Speaker 2: We'll go over from a gambling perspective, but you guys

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Speaker 2: the Patriots. You know it's funny. We talk a lot

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Speaker 2: about you know, successful franchises and poorly run franchises, and

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Speaker 2: we always says it starts at the top ak ownership.

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Speaker 2: I obviously ownership and the crafts, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: I just don't think football is that complicated. When you

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Speaker 2: hire the right people and then those people hire the

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Speaker 2: whether you have a good owner or a bad owner. Right.

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Speaker 2: We saw the Patriots and really goes back to Belichick

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Speaker 2: when he lost Josh McDaniels. They did not have an

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Speaker 2: And then they had Gerrod Mayo, who clearly did not

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Speaker 2: know what they were doing. Now they have Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 2: who is a fifty year old second time head coach anytime.

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge believer of learning by doing and growing

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Speaker 2: I think most people listening or watching would agree the

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Speaker 2: The owner told Mike Vrabel, you're out of here, pack

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Speaker 2: And I would imagine, like any normal successful person, definitely

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean your core philosophies have to change. It's not

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Speaker 2: like Andy Reid from Philadelphia to Kansas City said We're

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Speaker 2: just no more passing. We're gonna run it right four

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Speaker 2: dramatically improve when you're fired. Hell, I've been fired twice

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Speaker 2: That's pretty awesome because anytime you get a great defensive

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Speaker 2: Wall Street, Fortune, five hundred companies, the NFL, Ask Vic, Fangio.

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Speaker 2: at that, and if you look at Belichick. One thing

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Speaker 2: twenty years of the dynasty, Charlie Weiss, Bill O'Brien, Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 2: But Drake May was a player that not only the

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Speaker 2: off in ACL he looks fantastic. Kirkharvestreet said something again

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Speaker 2: that parallels the twenty year dynasty of the Patriots perfectly.

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Speaker 2: They have eight guys that play on defense, some starters

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Speaker 2: Anytime you have such good coaching and such good culture,

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Speaker 2: watching Drake made a night scramble. It's like, look how

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Speaker 2: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. Speaking of dysfunction, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: hear all off season and the rest of this season

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Speaker 2: and then all next season. If they don't do it,

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Speaker 2: going into the next draft, the Justice need to draft

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. The Justice need to draft a quarterback. He

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00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: could save the day. A quarterback can save the day.

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Speaker 2: That's not how it works. If Drake May didn't get

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Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels, Mike Vrabel and the infrastructure that they brought,

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00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 2: does Drake May look like himself? Probably not. Sam Donald.

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00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: I added it up over the last two years since

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00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: he got with Kevin O'Connell and then this year with

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Speaker 2: Kubiak McDonald and the Seattle Seahawks is twenty one and

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Speaker 2: five and during those twenty one victories, he's thrown fifty

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Speaker 2: two touchdowns. Yet when Sam Donald was with the Jets

452
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 2: and then the Panthers, he was a laughing stock. And

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00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 2: structure and infrastructure matters so much at quarterback. The Jets

454
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: literally drafted Sam Dorman like they had him. They drafted

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Speaker 2: him three overall. They were right, like they were on

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Speaker 2: the right guy. Their problem was they never have the

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00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: structure around a guy really going back since Sanchez when

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Speaker 2: they drafted him number five overall, and he's clearly not

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Speaker 2: as talented as Sam Darnold or Drake May. But what

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Speaker 2: did they have. They had a good defense, they had

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00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: a good offensive line, they had a good running game,

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00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: and he could just ease into his career. Now because

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00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 2: of his talent limitations, it hindered his long term growth

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00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: and he became ultimately what he was probably destined to

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Speaker 2: become a backup quarterback. But he had early success because

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Speaker 2: they were equipped to handle him. And so many teams

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Speaker 2: all we gotta do is draft a quarterback. Ask the

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Speaker 2: Titans how that's going with Cam mooredon because every single

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Speaker 2: week I know this, when I see the Titans playing

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Speaker 2: a decent opponent, I hammer the opponent from a gambling

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Speaker 2: perspective because they have no shot, because they have no infant.

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Speaker 2: They're an embarrassment, and I think, you go, look at

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Speaker 2: Mac Jones is a great example. Mac Jones' first year

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Speaker 2: with New England. They had Josh McDaniels, Bill Belichick and

475
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Speaker 2: they made the playoffs. Another team ultimately wasn't that good

476
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Speaker 2: and they got boat raced in the first round by

477
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Speaker 2: the Bills, but they went ten and seven, and he

478
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: had a solid foundation and building block rookie season. Then

479
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: what happened. Josh went to the Raiders and they put

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00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: Patricia in the job, and his entire career fell apart.

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Speaker 2: And three years later, I'm as guilty as anybody. We

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Speaker 2: weren't just making fun of Mac Jones. And this guy's

483
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: a terrible player. This guy should probably be in like

484
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Speaker 2: the UFL, shouldn't be in the NFL. And then I

485
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Speaker 2: see him with Kyle Shanahan in an offensive structure, philosophical belief.

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00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: As an organization, Mac Jones just rattling off wins. He's

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Speaker 2: thrown for like seven hundred yards in two games against

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams, a team that no one would

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Speaker 2: be surprised if they're in the Super Bowl. If I

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Speaker 2: put Mac Jones on this Jets team, how do you

491
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Speaker 2: think it looks now? Listen, the Jets are a good

492
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 2: example justin fields. He is not a pocket quarterback and

493
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: they are asking him to play essentially, He's like he's

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes or Justin Herbert or May. That's not his strength.

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Speaker 2: Herbstreet said it tonight on a man coverage play where

496
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: he just takes off and he ran for ten to

497
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Speaker 2: fifteen yards and got some an easy first down. Her

498
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: Street's like that's their best play. Why didn't they implement

499
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Speaker 2: if they're gonna give this guy forty million dollars some

500
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Speaker 2: hybrid version of the original offense that the Ravens ran

501
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: for Lamar Jackson to really emphasize his strengths, which is

502
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: his elite athleticism and his speed, and obviously he's got

503
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Speaker 2: a good arm and throws a great deep ball. But

504
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Speaker 2: in terms of quick game running, a normal traditional offense

505
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: is gonna be a struggle for the guy. And it

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Speaker 2: pains me to say that I love the player at

507
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Speaker 2: Ohio State, I was wrong, but the Jets are doing

508
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Speaker 2: him zero favors. So in what world, just because they

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Speaker 2: have seventy five first round picks, do I believe that

510
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Speaker 2: this front office and this head coach, Aaron Glenn, what

511
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: he did with the Lions was awesome. Seems like an

512
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: awesome guy and a great defensive But when he got

513
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: hired for the Jets, he does what a lot of

514
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Speaker 2: these guys do. He goes, I want to become a

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Speaker 2: head coach. Well, you got the job because of your

516
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Speaker 2: dominance as a coordinator. Mike McDonald when he got hired

517
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Speaker 2: from the Ravens, he didn't go you know, what guys,

518
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna prove I'm a CEO, he said. Listen, I'm

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Speaker 2: the head coach. That's my role, right. I run the

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00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: team meetings. I tell the coaches what to do. But

521
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: they hired me because I'm an elite defensive coordinator. So

522
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna call the defense.

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Speaker 2: So now I'm watching the Jets defense, which clearly, I

524
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: mean wasn't even good before they traded the guys. But

525
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: the strike to Aaron Glenn, he gives that to someone else,

526
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: and clearly as a defensive coordinator, And I would say

527
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Speaker 2: this about anything. They know nothing about offense. They have

528
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the offense. They have nothing to

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Speaker 2: do with the offensive personnel. And like he's the head coach,

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00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 2: so he's like, hey, I was just hire an offensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator and that guy gets to do whatever he wants

532
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: and just run a normal offense. That's a terrible fucking idea.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna hire Justin Fields to be your quarterback

534
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Speaker 2: and you're watching, You're going, what is going on? And

535
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: it's like they pound the table. We gotta have a

536
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Donnie Mitchell, right, who listen, I'm guilty on that one too.

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Speaker 2: I like that pick pick forty five a couple of

538
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: years ago by the Colts. The Colts were like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll just we'll have Donnie Mitchell drop off those two

540
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: first round picks. It's like, well, they're not tangible assets. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 2: we'll just He'll just bring them with him to the

542
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Speaker 2: airport and you guys can just keep them. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you really want them take him. I started texting around

544
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: like he was off draft boards, and I had a

545
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: buddy tell me, it's like, you know, there's some similarities

546
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: there with Brian Thomas Junior, who's a better player. But

547
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: look at Brian Thomas Junior this year kind of falling apart.

548
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: A lot of people had questions with some of these guys,

549
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: but you go to one of their pro days, and

550
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: Donnie Mitchell is a classic example. You go to a

551
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: pro day, you go to workout, you go, holy shit,

552
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: this guy looks like an Olympian. But we're not playing

553
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: Olympics on Sunday. We're playing football. And just because you

554
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: can run faster than every player on the field, if

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00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: you can't catch the ball, I don't care if you're

556
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Speaker 2: o by seventy five yards, it doesn't matter. I mean

557
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: fields hit him in stride on a deep go route

558
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: and before you see the replay, think want to play

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Speaker 2: by that dB. That's a fantastic PBu. And then they

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Speaker 2: show the slow motion replay and what happens goes right

561
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Speaker 2: through his hand. So I just think the Jets have

562
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: no clue what they're doing. And you can tell me

563
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna draft Ty Simpson, Fernando Mendoza, you picked the quarterback,

564
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: picked the young quarterback in two years. I will bet

565
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Speaker 2: against that guy. I simply will. And I think we

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00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: saw two organizations going in opposite directions tonight. I don't

567
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Speaker 2: care if the Jets have twenty first round picks. I

568
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: mean they had a draft a couple of years ago

569
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Speaker 2: where they took Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, and Breese Hall

570
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Speaker 2: in the top like the thirty five picks. They were

571
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: shitty that entire time. So just because you draft good players,

572
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you're gonna win if you have absolutely

573
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: no clue when it comes to the quarterback. A couple

574
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: more things. One thing that's really starting to bother me.

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Speaker 2: He is and I've seen this a lot with the

576
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: Luca Nico Harrison thing is like, doesn't the owner deserve

577
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: a lot of the blame here? He ultimately okayed it,

578
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: And it's hard I'm gonna parallel this to football, but

579
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: like it was the assuming, Like, listen, I got a

580
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: little conspiracy theorists on this, if you want to tell

581
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: me and convince me. And I kind of believe it

582
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: that Adam Silver in the NBA. But let's just believe

583
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: that there was no shady business and it was just

584
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: the Mavericks traded Luka Doncics to the Lakers. It was

585
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: the GM's idea. It's not like the owner walked into

586
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: his office like, hey man, you think we trade Luca

587
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, let me call around. See No,

588
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: he goes to the owner. And I've seen so many

589
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: people like the owner deserve blame. Like when the GM

590
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: has an idea, obviously on any sizeable transaction, the owner

591
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: is gonna know. You're gonna call them if they're not

592
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: in the office, you're gonna text them. You were gonna

593
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: tell them your idea. But oh yeah, go ahead. I

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00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: saw that Carly ursa you know Gucci owner who's on

595
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: the headsets, gave some quotes that like I Chris asked me,

596
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Speaker 2: and I said, hey, if you want to go for it,

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Speaker 2: go for it. I'm giving you the thumbs up. If

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00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: Sas Gardner is a disaster for the Colts, let's just

599
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: let's just say in like three or four years, we

600
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Speaker 2: look back and it's it was a trade they would

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Speaker 2: like to they regret. The owner bears no responsibility to that.

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Speaker 2: It was the GM's idea, right, it was the GM's

603
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: idea to pull the trigger on that trade. He goes

604
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Speaker 2: to the owner says, hey, I'm thinking about doing this,

605
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Speaker 2: are you cool with it? I don't blame the owner

606
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: if the general manager goes, hey, that's the thing with

607
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. They just made some trades, right that Jerry

608
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: also is the GM. But any of these gms, like

609
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: when how he they trade for Jalen Phillips. Obviously, I'm

610
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: sure he's like, hey, Jeffrey, we're gonna pull a third

611
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: round pick, and Jeffer's like, do it. That's how he's idea.

612
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 2: So if Jalenn phil blows up in their face like

613
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Speaker 2: just because Jeffrey gave him the go ahead, like, that's

614
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Speaker 2: on the general manager. That's part of the gig. I mean, look,

615
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: we saw we had a front row seat to that

616
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks with Joe Shane and the Giants when it

617
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: came to these maneuvers, right, and the owner's like, hey, man,

618
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, and he's like I believe

619
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Speaker 2: in this. He's like okay, Like that's typically how it goes.

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Speaker 2: The gms are this is their job, right, No different

621
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Speaker 2: than like when a play is called. When these plays

622
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: were happening on Monday Night Football and everyone's shitting on

623
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur, it's like, that's his idea, these are his plays.

624
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: He's the one calling them like he bears the responsibility.

625
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like in a perfect world, some of

626
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: these owners should be like, I don't think we should

627
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: do that. But that's not typically what most of these

628
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: guys or now gals are doing. That's the the GM's

629
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Speaker 2: coming to them with these ideas because that's what they do.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four seven three sixty five. Evaluate all the players

631
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: do different scenarios. These are the different ideas, throw different things,

632
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: and a lot of ideas that that they don't even

633
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: need to go to them because they get shot down

634
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 2: before they're even an opportunity. But if I hear one

635
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: more time, it's like the owner deserves blame. It's like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, if you create the idea and it's

637
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: you're the one pushing for it. To me, you deserve

638
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: even if it's like not your decision to make because

639
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: you don't own the team. Most of these owners are like, good,

640
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: go ahead. The Deshaun Watson situation is a little unique

641
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: because the owner is two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed contract.

642
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: But a lot of these quote unquote trades in sports

643
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: like I'm sorry the general manager, and they'd be the

644
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: first to tell you like they deserve to bear good

645
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: or bad, the responsibility of the trade. I'll get you

646
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: out of here on this Fugazi Friday. My wife some

647
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: of her friends have done this, really wanted to go to. Essentially,

648
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: it's it's not necessarily I think it's like a high

649
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: end ultrasound to get pictures of the baby, right, but

650
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 2: like good, like they can zoom in. It's high end equipment.

651
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 2: It costs a couple hundred bucks, and you see the

652
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: face of the baby and you get like, you know,

653
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: we're a couple of months away, and get a feel

654
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: for what the baby looks like now. I'm a believer,

655
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: not hating her honor for this. I know a lot

656
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: of people that have done this, but like, listen, whatever,

657
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: the baby's gonna look like the baby, Thank God, so

658
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: far everything's healthy. The baby's gonna look like that's God's

659
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: flan out of our control. It would not be something

660
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: that I would have made an effort to do, but

661
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: she really wanted to do it. Support I'll get in

662
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: the car, I'll drive, you know, thirty five minutes to

663
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: Phoenix and we'll go see this thing. So we get

664
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: there and we just walk right in and we sit

665
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: down and she's doing the thing, and the baby's covering

666
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: the face or his face with his hands. I'm like,

667
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: or what are we able to do? She's like, well,

668
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: you know, you can get up, try moving around. We'll

669
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: start playing music. I start dream in his name, hoping

670
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: he would move around. And we sat there for like

671
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes, and the baby never bunched, and you

672
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: couldn't take a picture because the baby's covering its face.

673
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: And then toward the end it was kind of you know,

674
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: she's getting frustrated. It that kind of sucks, and I

675
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: go of all the people to come in and I'm like,

676
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: you have a lot of people to come in. Yeah,

677
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: we have a ton every day. I'm like, what out

678
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: of ten, let's just pick a number ten. How many

679
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: typically do you get a good photo of the baby?

680
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, maybe one. I'm like, so you're telling

681
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: me about ten percent of the time this works out

682
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: because usually the baby, I mean, there's not much space

683
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: in there, it's covered itself. You can't see shit. I'm like,

684
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: shouldn't that be part of the average? And then we

685
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: started texting around like happen to other people? It happened

686
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: to her brother. I'm like, shouldn't that be part of

687
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: the advertisement? Like, hey, you can spend a couple hundred bucks,

688
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: but the likelihood is you're not gonna see anything different

689
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: than you've already seen. I'm like, I probably would have

690
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 2: liked to know that, to know, like this is probably unnecessary,

691
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: but hey, you know, good gig if you can get it.

692
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: But when she's like, yeah, maybe two and ten on

693
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: a good day, but yeah, typically one out of every ten,

694
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: I would have liked to know that before we just

695
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: drove here through traffic to just be kind of devastated,

696
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: but yeah, that whatever that business is talk about a fugazi.

697
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: I'd recommend do not You do not need to do that,

698
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: Just just wait because more than likely you just want

699
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: to have a good angle. Okay, back at it again.

700
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: It's been a rough, rough, little stretch for your boy. Here, Stucky.

701
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 2: You can find my main man, Stucky Action Network, Big

702
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 2: Bets on campus. Yeah, college basketball in full swing, college

703
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: football coming down the home stretch. I don't even know

704
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 2: what week it is for the NFL, but we're headed

705
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: in the fun time November December. It's when you start

706
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: turning on the TV and you see, you know, I

707
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: can't relate to eighty degrees where I'm at, but watching

708
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: Wisconsin play Washington, I'm like, that looks so cold. And

709
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 2: then the next day watching the Bears game, I'm like, no,

710
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: I can't do but it makes it's it's football weather.

711
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: So stuck you what is happening?

712
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah? I was had a good run

713
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: up until last Sunday. I had a bad Sunday, just

714
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: a couple of bad calls, but that don't happen. It's

715
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: on to week eleven. Crazy that we're already at week

716
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: eleven more some more like at least we have Lions

717
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: Eagles on Sunday Night. But the other primetime games in

718
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: Island games like wean we got we're recording this on Thursday.

719
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: We have Jets Pats tonight, we have Commander's Dolphins in Madrid,

720
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: and and Cowboys Greaters on Monday Night.

721
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 2: And that's terrible.

722
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awful. We haven't had a really compelling, exciting

723
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: primetime game since like mid October, like Steelers Bengals. It's

724
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 1: been that long. I like it's been it's been bad,

725
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: and like I felt overall that the NFL this year

726
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: has been like the most boring it's ever been for me.

727
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: And a lot of that is there's a lot of

728
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: bad teams, a lot of bad teams in the NFL,

729
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: and like right now there's fourteen I think there's fourteen teams.

730
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: There's fourteen teams to make the playoffs. Theres fourteen teams

731
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 1: that are like minus three hundred or more or better

732
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, which just shows you that like

733
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of and this is only a week eleven,

734
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of dregs in the league, and the

735
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: NFL is like now can it's I'm gonna watch every

736
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: NFL game. I mean, but they have me. But when

737
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: you have when they're when they're like slowly taking over

738
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: so many different time slots, right, and they're just trying

739
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: to I mean, we're not even at that holiday weeks

740
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: when they'll be playing on Wednesdays and Fridays. But when

741
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: they take over so many time slots and the games

742
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: aren't compelling because there's so many bad teams, it kind

743
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: of wears on you and it kind of loses its

744
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: luster a little bit, and then it takes away from

745
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: like the late slates on a Sunday, right, you don't

746
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 1: have as many games, and then you're more at risk

747
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: of just having three blowouts like we did last Sunday.

748
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, we've kind of hit the dog days of

749
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: the season. But this weekend at least we have a

750
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: couple of really compelling games. But yeah, without betting, it

751
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: would be way less interesting of a season. And I'm

752
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: excited for the playoffs, in particular the NFC playoffs, which

753
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: I think can be We're going to be really exciting

754
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: this year.

755
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: Well, I want to piggyback at that point, because let's

756
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: look at the Monday night game. The Green Bay team

757
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: has three of their loss I guess they're three losses,

758
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: right they they scored thirteen points, seven points, and like

759
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: ten points, so they're not an entertaining team to watch

760
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: of I don't need forty points.

761
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: But they can't. Might be the most boring team.

762
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: And then they lead the league in three and outs.

763
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know that till Akman and Buck said that.

764
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: I was like Jesus, I the more and more I

765
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 2: hear aj, I go, I kind of side with the guy.

766
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: I mean, well, he's not. It's not just like Antonio

767
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: brown craziness. Every time he speaks. It's like he is

768
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: kind of just saying factual statements here, like take me

769
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: off my fantasy team, our offense is broken, we have strengths,

770
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: we don't use them. It's like, well, he's not wrong.

771
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: He's not saying like he's not at least publicly calling

772
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: out Jalen or the coach. He's just saying the facts.

773
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: And then you look at Denver, who in theory is

774
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: a dominant, you know, one of the best defenses in

775
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: recent memory. The bo Knicks is unwatchable, right the forty

776
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: nine ers, who or the Bears? One of those two

777
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: teams gonna make the playoffs. And the Bears can look

778
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: horrendous in these games. The Niners are playing me and

779
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: you on defense, so it's like, yeah, part of the

780
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: problem is of the fourteen teams, the Chiefs, I mean,

781
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna end up with ten or eleven wins, and

782
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: they're just kind of a weird version of themselves this year.

783
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: So it's it's just a little off kilter. That's why

784
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: it's like all the Bills, they should this is their year,

785
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: and then you watch them play the Dolphins get fucking

786
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: curb stopped. It's like, is that is Chauncey Billups coaching them?

787
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean then you have in the.

788
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: What the hell was? What the hell was that? I

789
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: loved him nine and a half because I was like, Okay,

790
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: they can take that momentum, and you honestly knew right away,

791
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: especially when it was raining. You're like, they're not gonna

792
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: come storming back and win this game like forty to

793
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: twenty five. That's not gonna happen.

794
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's one of those weird games at Miami where

795
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: like they were just hung over from the big win

796
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: and we're just flat and they were in a day's

797
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: humid I don't know if they were out in Miami.

798
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: Who knows, but the interception Josh throu It's like, bro,

799
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: he wasn't even looking at you.

800
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: Do you fumble on a quarterback sneak? It was just

801
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: a loppy, sloppy all around game. I mean, the one

802
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: seed in the AFC is the Colts, and like they

803
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: got Daniel Jones at quarterback, who over the past couple

804
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: of weeks has reverted to some old bad habits.

805
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: Uh with they easily they easily could have lost if

806
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: the kickoff rule wasn't changed to give him an advantage.

807
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're probably losing that game. I remember

808
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: I was actually on Twitter right when when Sauce flipped

809
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: and you were like he got cooked. It's like, God,

810
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: that was not a great look. If anyone you you

811
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 2: trade for him to match up against guys like Drake

812
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: London can't cover him? Who can you cover?

813
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

814
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: I mean drop the pick?

815
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, drop Like Jones had a pick, three fumbles, was

816
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: sacked six times, and he's he's starting to look like

817
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: old Daniel Jones under pressure, which is worrisome going in

818
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. But yeah, there's going back to the

819
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: Eagles and Packers points. The Packers have a super Bowl

820
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: caliber defense and I don't think there's any doubt in that.

821
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: And I mean, like you mentioned the games that they lost.

822
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: They have three losses where they didn't give up more

823
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: than sixteen points.

824
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, the sixteen points for the Panthers, ten points for

825
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 2: the Eagles, and thirteen points for the Browns. They lost

826
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: all those games.

827
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they I mean, they can get pressure, their their

828
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: coverage on the back end has been excellent. They don't

829
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: really have any weaknesses on defense.

830
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: Now.

831
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: That's what was so intriguing to me about the Packers

832
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: adding Parsons with half another year in Halfley system, that

833
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: this defense could be top five caliber to match an

834
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: offense which I thought was gonna be top five caliber.

835
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: But it's it's simply not right now. And their injuries

836
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: haven't helped. Right. They have a lot of injuries. A

837
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Losing Tucker Kraft was killer, and they have

838
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: to figure out he was the safety blanket, the red

839
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: zone guy, the third down guy. They have to figure

840
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: out life after him. They also just lost their center

841
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: Alton Jenkins, who went on ir So the injuries are

842
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: starting to mount out. But there they get too conservative

843
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: at times and like they were. It's almost and it

844
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: was a bit like you mentioned, it was a huge

845
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: game for the Floor, and I thought it was a

846
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: really bad game from la Floor. Well in the sense

847
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: that I mean they had a four, they had a

848
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: they probably would have won, maybe would have won the

849
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: game if they completed along past the Watson and I

850
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: think the game was seven seven, ten to seven at

851
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: the time or three to three something like that. They

852
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: completed along past the Watson in the red zone, but

853
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: there was an illegal formation one of the tackles, Darien Canard,

854
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: who went to Kentucky. He came in and like didn't

855
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: report and like.

856
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: It was the It was the play action play where

857
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: they hit him kind of coming across the middle and then.

858
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: They ended up a defining on that. Then you had

859
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: a fourth and one where they called the false start

860
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: on the pushbush and then had a pint which is

861
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: ironic against the Eagles, which apparently they can't see false

862
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: starts on this play. I don't understand how they can

863
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: when everyone else can see it. But then you had

864
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: the fourth and one at the end of the game,

865
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: and like the second to last drive, the Eagles are

866
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: calling out the play and like you're running an inside

867
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: zone with your center just got hurt and the Eagles

868
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: blew it up.

869
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: And then they had an illegal formation on that play too,

870
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 2: So even if they would have got it, they would

871
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: have gone back five yards legal two illegal formations on

872
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 2: two massive plays which the play action won to Watson.

873
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: That is clearly like a high end Shanahan McVeigh lafloor.

874
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: They work on that play, they scheme it up, they

875
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: have it in a perfect spot and the players fuck

876
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 2: it up. Like I'm sorry, that is on the coach. Yeah,

877
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: Like everyone has to know what they're doing to line up.

878
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: It's one thing if you trip and fall running a

879
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 2: route to not line up or report it's like, that's embarrassing. Yeah,

880
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: that was That was the first moment where I went, oh,

881
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: he's in trouble.

882
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he tried like trying a sixty four

883
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: yard or outdoors with I mean, I know you're not

884
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: gonna get a hail Mary, although you're you're like that

885
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: that's the king of hail Mary's Kareem bay No Love

886
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: doesn't throw out like Rogers, but like you mcmanness, who's

887
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: been horrendous all year, who's like has a bum leg

888
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't know why they didn't try They have another

889
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: kicker on their roster, Habitchak or whatever his name is,

890
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: who's hit a sixty two yard I don't know why

891
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: they didn't try him out there, but he's not making

892
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: that from sixty four. So I thought that was a

893
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: bizarre decision. I mean, you're you're stuck between a rock

894
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: and a hard place. But I'm a big before guy

895
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: or what's coming in the air, but that was It's

896
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: been a rough stretch, so yeah, they have to figure

897
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: out their offense now this week against the Giants, you

898
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: can just like turn around and hand it off to

899
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: Jacobs a bunch because the Giants can't defend the run.

900
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, a couple of weeks, like they go to

901
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: Detroit and that was a big swing game for them

902
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: in the NFC playoffs stand and like you don't want

903
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: getting the buy in the NFC is gonna be so important,

904
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: Like you could be matched up with the Rams, or

905
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: you could you could be matched up with the Rams

906
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: or the Seahawks in the first round the Eagles again,

907
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: like it's there's no real easy path in the NFC.

908
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: And then on the Eagles front too, it's the same thing.

909
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: Their defense, which had been you know, around average all year.

910
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: I think it's starting a round in the form you

911
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: saw the addition of Jalen Phillips to Vic Fangio defense.

912
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: They're gonna get better as the year goes on. But

913
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: that was the offense out of the by look no different.

914
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: Like the offensive line isn't as good as last year,

915
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: so Barkley can't get going. There's no creativity in the offense,

916
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: Like there's no motion, there's no play action, it's shot.

917
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: They've used ex jumbo packages a little bit recently, which

918
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: has led to some more success. But as far as

919
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: like just the overall creativity the offense, it's like the Packers.

920
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: It looked like the Packers had the Eagles playbook the

921
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: entire game. I mean there were there was basically just

922
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: like two good plays, like they had a dump off

923
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: to Barkley which was off script and the long past

924
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: the DeVante spent. Other than that, the offense didn't do

925
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: anything the entire name. So as of right now, I mean,

926
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like neither one of these offenses are

927
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: capable of getting through the NFC, but that could change

928
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: by the end of the season and we shall see.

929
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: We'll get another good data point on the Eagles offense

930
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: this week against Detroit.

931
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all these lines are presented to you by all

932
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: these lines are presented to you by my friends at

933
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: hard Rock Bett. Let's dive into another team that's pretty

934
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: i would say, polarizing right now because a month ago

935
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: you'd been like, this could be a Super Bowl Tampa

936
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: going to Buffalo. Obviously, Tampa's had a bunch of injuries,

937
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 2: so it's hard to judge them. I think we all

938
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: believe when they're fully healthy, they're really good. Buffalo, I'm

939
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: not so sure. And I think for the first time,

940
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: like with Lafleura, i went this McDermott thing, like you

941
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: can only have so many runs before people because you

942
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 2: become a product of your own success, Like, yeah, you've

943
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: you've won this division. Well now it looks like you

944
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: might not win the division. It's like, well, your offense dominated,

945
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 2: Well now it's struggling. And then you go to Miami.

946
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: Everyone's making fun of their franchise, their coach, and not

947
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 2: only do they clown you, you got the head coach driving

948
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 2: by your team's bar, like laughing at you.

949
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: Guys.

950
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: Those are the type moments That is cheesy as it

951
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 2: might sound, like, start the owners pay attention to this shit,

952
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you don't win the division.

953
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 2: You something weird happens depending on the matchup wild Card weekend.

954
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: Now I would like Buffalo like at Indy probably like

955
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: I'm not betting against Josh Allen against Daniel Jones, but

956
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: who knows, what if they're just they just have way

957
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: better team we saw with Baltimore the last two times

958
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: you guys have played. It's like Baltimore has no business

959
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 2: losing the Bills. They have better players, but Josh and turnovers.

960
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: I'm tempted to take Tampa in this spot, but I

961
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: just I don't trust what Buffalo team I'm getting. You'd

962
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: think they're going to be motivated because coming off this

963
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 2: loss at home, but what if this thing just starts

964
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: getting weird? What if this just that time where this

965
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: was the pivot point and this ends up costing kind

966
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: of the Uh. You know Sean McDermot, who's done a

967
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: really good job. I mean, he helped resurrect this franchise

968
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: with Josh, but it does feel like they've kind of

969
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: petered out now.

970
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: Well, the over like the favorite the matchup too, that

971
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: we're most likely to get because now the Patriots have

972
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: a decent lead in the division with a game in

973
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: hand with a win in Buffalo, and they have a

974
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: really easy schedule the rest of the way. So the

975
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: most likely end point for the Bills that they make

976
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs I'm assuming they do is the five seed,

977
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: and that means they are most likely going to Baltimore,

978
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: who's now who's favored, a decent favorite to win the

979
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: AFC North, and the Ravens are probably gonna get If

980
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: they do, they'll get to like nine or ten wins,

981
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: which means they'll probably be the four seed. So yeah,

982
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: Buffalo instead of with this really easy schedule that they

983
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: had the favorite to get the one seed going into

984
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: the season, instead of having a buy and home field

985
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: advantage throughout, it looks like as of right now, just

986
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: based on how it looks, they might have to go

987
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: to Baltimore in the first round, which is not ideal.

988
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I I do expect the game

989
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: effort from the Bills. It looks like a lot of

990
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: their defenders are were practicing on a limited fashion yesterday,

991
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: so I think they'll be relatively healthy on that side

992
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: of the ball. They're jet. I mean usually this team

993
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: loses like at home once every two years, and they

994
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: did it this year against the Patriots, but we saw

995
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: them beat the Chiefs. I the Boks just are not

996
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: They're kind of broken right now. I mean, if you

997
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: look over the past month, and a lot of that

998
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: has to do with health, right Their offensive line isn't healthy.

999
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving remains out. Without Bucky Irving, like the run

1000
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: game goes in the tank, and the run game just

1001
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: isn't as good without Liam Cohen there. You also have

1002
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: Mike Evans on ir God.

1003
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: When you say Bucky Irving was a big part of

1004
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen getting a job, like his success and his

1005
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: like yeah, I mean, because they were one of the

1006
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: worst rushing team for years. He gets there, looks awesome.

1007
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: Liam becomes a star yep.

1008
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: And then like the Bucks last year were like the

1009
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: best screen team of all time too if you look

1010
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: at like advanced numbers, and Bucky Irving was a huge

1011
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: part of that. So without him, like the run game,

1012
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: the screen game isn't as good. But more importantly, I

1013
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: don't think Baker's healthy. And I mean they came out

1014
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: of the buy against New England and then they got

1015
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: a late garbage time touchdown, but they only had sixteen

1016
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: points before then. Baker hasn't scrambled in four weeks, like,

1017
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: so he was dealing with like a groin and submit

1018
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: like and so I figured after the bye he would

1019
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: look a lot fresher, more healthy. But he didn't really

1020
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: scramble again last week, So I'm not sure he's hot.

1021
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: I know a lot of what the Bucks do is

1022
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: and I know Baker are good numbers last week, but

1023
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: it's not a great Patriots pessimens. But I'm just talking

1024
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: about just watching him. He wasn't scrambling at all. I

1025
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: mean in ha, no rush attempts and a lot of

1026
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: what keeps their drives going and creates explosive places when

1027
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: he's moving around, and he's going to need to do

1028
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: that against the Bills, who can get pressure. So the

1029
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay offense right now is just not a well

1030
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: boiled machine and it's not operating at peak efficiency. I mean, like, yeah,

1031
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: they put up thirty on San fran but that San Francisco,

1032
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean that's when Warner went down. They get they

1033
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: got they can't stop anybody, and then you saw them

1034
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: go to Detroit, and Baker just looked off and they

1035
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: were and Detroit was playing a bunch of backups in

1036
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: the secondary. Against New Orleans the following week, yeah, they

1037
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: scored twenty three, but there was like a pick six.

1038
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: Baker was fifteen to twenty four for one hundred and

1039
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: fifty yards. They only rushed for three yards to carry.

1040
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: I mean they finished that game with two hundred and

1041
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: twelve total yards of offense. And then last week it

1042
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: just didn't look all the way there. So if I

1043
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: had to bet this game, I mean, my favorite looking

1044
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: at it is probably under. It's come down a little bit,

1045
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be some weather. And the way to

1046
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: attack this Bill's defense is with the run. They struggle

1047
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: to defend the run, but Tampa's rushing offense not there

1048
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: right now. Baker not really running and moving that well,

1049
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: and the Bills want to run the ball a lot,

1050
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: sometimes too much when you have Josh Allen. But the

1051
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: Bucks arguably have the best run defense in the NFL.

1052
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot of paths to where

1053
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: both defenses are getting stops. You throw in the weather

1054
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: here as well. Let me look at the updated weather. Yeah,

1055
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: there's gonna be wind, which might dampen some of the

1056
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: downfield shots that both these quarterbacks are certainly capable of hitting.

1057
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: Kincaid banged up for the Bills as well, So yeah,

1058
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't blame you for taking the points.

1059
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: So I think my best look is the under in

1060
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: that game. There's something off with this Tampa offense right now,

1061
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: but the Bills have been very Jekyll and Hide all year.

1062
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: The NFC West is doing a little round robin these

1063
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: last two weeks. Seattle hosted Arizona, the Niners hosted the Rams.

1064
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 2: Now the Niners are going to Arizona and Seattle is

1065
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 2: going to La Kyle said yesterday before we dive into

1066
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: the big game. Kyle said yesterday that all signs unless

1067
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: there's a setback in the next twenty four to forty

1068
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: eight hours of party's probably gonna start, which I do

1069
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 2: think is a little risky in the sense that Mac

1070
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 2: Jones been really good, and especially like I mean, he

1071
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: has destroyed the Rams. Right if the forty nine ers

1072
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: had their normal defense, they would have been right in

1073
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: that game. They just had no chance to slow him down,

1074
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 2: but offensively they kind of did whatever they wanted and

1075
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: you know Perty coming back, Piersall might come back. The

1076
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: Cardinals obviously lose Harrison, they're kind of in shambles, but

1077
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: I would imagine I guess that that final score didn't

1078
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: kind of hold up of like the thirty or forty

1079
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: point beat down, because Don't kind of fell apart in

1080
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: the second half, so it looked a lot closer than

1081
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: it was. I mean, it was thirty five nothing, pretty quick.

1082
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: That feels like one of the faster thirty five nothing

1083
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: accomplishments in league history, because it was twenty to one

1084
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 2: nothing before you could even blank. And I guess, I listen,

1085
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: if Perdy comes back, you just better win, because if

1086
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 2: you were to lose and he were to play bad, obviously,

1087
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: when you pay guy one hundred and eighty million dollars,

1088
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: I'm not acting like there's a quarterback controversy, but the

1089
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: other quarterback was playing well, you bring this guy in

1090
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: off the shelf for basically a month and a half.

1091
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: I just now there is gonna be a Niner home

1092
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: game in Arizona, especially with how shitty Arizona. This might

1093
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 2: be like nine fans, but I do think there's some

1094
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: pressure of pretty plays to like look kind of good

1095
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 2: because the other guy's kind of rolling.

1096
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm tempted to stop like that.

1097
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm taking the Niners minus three, but that defense makes

1098
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: me nervous. I just wonder if the Cardinals are starting

1099
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: going to do a little one two three, uh rosa rita.

1100
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm tempted to take the three, but like

1101
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: it's the Cardinals are a mess right now. I mean,

1102
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: it gets how many times can they throw to McBride here?

1103
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: But I mean the forty Niners cannot generate any pressure

1104
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: at all now. Their defense can't stop anybody. I mean,

1105
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't care who you have out there, the Cardinals

1106
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: are probably gonna move the ball. It's gonna be like

1107
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: Greg Dortch, Michael.

1108
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: Zay Jones broke his leg or something, and.

1109
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: They have some offensive line questions. The defense, too, is

1110
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: also really banged out. They were without two starting corners

1111
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: last week Mac Wilson.

1112
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: But they couldn't even practice on Wednesday. They had too

1113
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 2: many injuries.

1114
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, their defensive line as injuries, linebackers, secondary, So they

1115
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: just might be two decimated to do anything. But it's

1116
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: hard to trust. Is forty nine ers laying like asking

1117
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: to win by margin. With the state of their defense,

1118
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it has been they just have no one left.

1119
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: The injuries have been horrifying. And this was a star

1120
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: We talked about this all year. This is a Stars

1121
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: and Scrubs built defense that you know, they had a

1122
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: massive was the biggest free agency exodus of defensive players

1123
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: money wise in the offseason that we've ever seen. So

1124
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: they said, okay, well we still have Bosa, we still

1125
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: have Warner. Well now you don't, and then you even

1126
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: have more injuries after that. So yeah, it's it's it's

1127
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: a tough, tough scene for that defense. And the other

1128
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: thing that I'll mention because it is a bit risky

1129
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: and with Purty because number one, I mean, I'm sure

1130
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: they wouldn't put him out there unless he was one

1131
00:59:54,720 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy. But I mean maybe maybe at home

1132
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: against the Panthers next week would be a good spot.

1133
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: But this is a nice runway, like you're at Arizona,

1134
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: you're home against the Panthers before you go to Cleveland

1135
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: where you lost last year, and that that defense is

1136
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: is gonna be good at home. But there's there's potential

1137
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: for Russ Like we see this all the time.

1138
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: With that's what I'm saying, that's my point.

1139
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been off for a while. And

1140
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: now you're taking this offense that has been humming. I

1141
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: mean over the past month and a half. I mean

1142
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: what Matt Jones throw for what seven like six hundred

1143
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: and fifty combined yards against the rams uh in a split.

1144
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: And the offense has not been the problem. And you know,

1145
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: against the Texans, that's like the best defense in the league,

1146
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: and the defense couldn't get off the field in that game,

1147
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: and and and the Texans were playing without all their receivers,

1148
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: So you got to remember that game, like Arizona doesn't

1149
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: have the receivers, the Texans didn't have any receivers in

1150
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: that game, a really bad offensive line and basically just

1151
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: held the ball the entire game because the and I

1152
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: just couldn't get off the field. So there's a path

1153
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: where the the Cardinals can do something similar. But that's

1154
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: what I would worry about with Purty. It's like that

1155
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: first game is their rust and then like how long

1156
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: does it take for him to get going and shake

1157
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: it off, because with this defense, you might be in

1158
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:17,479
Speaker 1: a hole.

1159
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get dive into the heavyweight matchups. My logic

1160
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: on this one's pretty simple. We talked about it last week.

1161
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: I think the difference with Seattle and LA, and it

1162
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 2: was on full display with mac Jones thrown with his

1163
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: eyes closed for three hundred yards to random guys. The

1164
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: LA secondary is just not very good, and I think

1165
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: Seattle secondary is really good. Now. I think that the

1166
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: thing you would be nervous of, like obviously, Darnold, I

1167
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: don't even count. The second half has been remarkable and

1168
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 2: Stafford feels like he's playing. It's pretty crazy to think

1169
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: back like three months ago that is like I might

1170
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 2: be out on the rams because it's back's fucked, and

1171
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: it's like, well, b looks fine to me, but it

1172
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: doesn't even feel like he was ropid opening. It's like

1173
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: his back was legitimately hurt, but unlike Kershaw, just like

1174
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 2: magically went away and he's fine. And Davante did get

1175
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: banged up in that game. I saw it this morning

1176
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 2: that it looks like he's gonna play. He's got eight touchdowns.

1177
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: I mean, if you sign a guy and he brings

1178
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 2: you twelve or fourteen touchdowns a running back or a

1179
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: wide receiver, that's an incredible signing. You know, so and

1180
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: Davante and him look like they have Aaron Rodgers' level rapport.

1181
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 2: But I just think the difference in this game is

1182
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: Seattle secondary. I mean, LA can't cover anybody, so I

1183
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 2: don't like, I love Seattle plus three. I also think

1184
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: I'm not saying like forty nine er level, but I

1185
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: do think there's gonna be a lot of Seahawks fans there.

1186
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: And this is the thing with these LA teams, they

1187
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: don't really have home field advantages. This is not that

1188
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: I would argue it's like the worst in the league

1189
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: for teams that matter.

1190
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and Seattle's traveled really well under McDonald.

1191
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they've argue been better on the road that

1192
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: at home in his tenure.

1193
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, they lost like one game. I mean yeah,

1194
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: I think they.

1195
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: Were like nine to one over the past ten road games.

1196
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean I made this case. I made

1197
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: this case last week when I was talking about the

1198
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: over the forty nine ers Rams over in that I

1199
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: think that the Rams defense is overrated because over the

1200
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: past month, they played Tyler Shuck and the Saints, they

1201
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 1: played the Ravens with Cooper Rush.

1202
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: Chuck looked pretty good last week, though, what's apps the

1203
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: highlights of that get You watched Chuck last week looked

1204
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 2: pretty good?

1205
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: He did he Yeah, he had. He showed some signs

1206
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: that at least the Saints fans have something to look

1207
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: forward to, at least for the time being in another

1208
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: lost season. But you know they for based on who

1209
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: they played. And then you look like remember the first

1210
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: time Mac Jones without Kittle, without his receivers carved them up,

1211
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: and then he did it again. Their weakness is clearly

1212
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: their secondary, And then I could make the I could

1213
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: also make the case that the Seahawks their defense is

1214
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: underrated at the moment because they played a I put

1215
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: a large stretch of the season with a lot of

1216
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: injuries in the secondary. They've had some guys step up.

1217
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: They're getting healthier on the back end. And this is

1218
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: a front much like the Rams that can get pressure

1219
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: without blitzing, which gives you so much flexibility and allows

1220
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: you to cover so much more efficiently. So yeah, I mean,

1221
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: I think that the clear weak unit in this game

1222
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: is the forty nine ers. I mean, excuse me, the

1223
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: Rams secondary. So taking the three, I don't hate it.

1224
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: We'll see if now this is a completely different offense

1225
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: for Darnell.

1226
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 2: Can the Rams win the Super Bowl, let alone the division?

1227
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: With the secondary, they just can't cover people in a

1228
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: passing league.

1229
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be tough. But like if you look

1230
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: at who, like what pass offense really really scares you

1231
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: in the NFC playoffs, So it's certainly not the Eagles

1232
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: right like they can. I mean, they should have won

1233
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: in Philly, but again their secondary. Philly's offense came to

1234
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: life for it. It was like the first the only time

1235
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: they put up like twenty six points in the second half.

1236
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: But that's not Seattle. The Niners of that's like a

1237
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,479
Speaker 2: two to seven. Let's say they won the division, would

1238
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: just they're just comfortable playing them?

1239
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just don't the Niners defense is not

1240
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna be in a state where true they can beat

1241
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: the Rams. I don't think Detroit is probably the team

1242
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: that you'd worry about. Maybe Tampa if they're healthy. So

1243
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: that there are some teams, there are some games where

1244
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 1: the Rams are probably gonna have to outscore just win

1245
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: in a shootout, I think in the NFC playoffs, depending

1246
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: on their path, But they.

1247
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: Actually match up pretty well against the Eagles. Then huh,

1248
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: Like the secondary doesn't kill you if they're not.

1249
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they almost won in Philly in the

1250
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: snow last year, which with like that was not an

1251
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: ideal situation and road environment in the snow playing Barkley,

1252
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: and they had a chance to win that game at

1253
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: the end. And then obviously we're up twenty six to

1254
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: seven this year in Philly. So yeah, I think it's

1255
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: a decent matchup for the Rams that they wouldn't mind

1256
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: having to play the Eagles. But these are two Yeah,

1257
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: these are really interesting teams that they're kind of ahead

1258
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: of the curve and it's kind of the new, the

1259
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: new you know, most efficient way to move the ball

1260
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL is using heavy personnel and throwing out

1261
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: of it and just causing and the Ravens have done

1262
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: this for the past couple of years, which has made

1263
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: their offense such a matchup nightmare because you've had years

1264
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: of you know, eleven personnel spread and defenses have adjusted, right,

1265
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: and then that's how they built their defenses. Well, now,

1266
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's a cyclical league. It's cat and mouse,

1267
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, robber and cop, you know, criminal and cop

1268
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: type of just back and forth. And now offenses are

1269
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: starting to adjust and go a little heavier and throwing

1270
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: out of that. That's what the the Seahawks have done

1271
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 1: a lot of They don't run the ball very well,

1272
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: but they use that run to kind of set up

1273
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: the pass, set up their play action out of heavy personnel,

1274
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: create mismatches, and the Rams have really leaned into it

1275
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: over the past month. Over the past month, they've used

1276
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: thirteen personnel forty percent of the time, three tight ends

1277
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: on the field. They're like and they're just ripping defenses

1278
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: apart with it. That's a fascinating chess match in this game.

1279
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: Not only do you have McVeigh verus McDonald, which is awesome,

1280
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: but you have these two teams that are, you know,

1281
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: kind of ahead of the rest of the NFL with

1282
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: how they're moving the ball. But both offenses know, you know,

1283
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: both teams know that they play against it. So who

1284
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: can make the better adjustments against these unique offensive formations.

1285
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: It's really interesting. But I don't mind taking the points here.

1286
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: I can't wait for this game. These are two teams

1287
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: that keep winning and keep covering. They're both I believe

1288
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: both seven and two straight up and seven and two

1289
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: against the spread. Two best in the league. So yeah,

1290
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: I mean taking the field goal I think makes sense.

1291
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,919
Speaker 2: Well, that's the millennial coaching matchup with McDonald and McVeigh.

1292
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 2: This is the Boomer coaching matchup with Andy and Payton.

1293
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 2: I looked earlier today that now, granted week eighteen last year,

1294
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 2: the Chiefs had already wrapped it up, and I don't

1295
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: know if we're playing for much bo Nicks, I think

1296
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 2: through for over three hundred yards against them, but I

1297
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 2: do remember him playing like decently well against them in

1298
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: the game that they missed the field goal or the

1299
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: field goal blocked right at home in the middle of

1300
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 2: the season. Now, the version that we have seen lately

1301
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 2: is just it's been tough to watch. I saw his

1302
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: little some clips of his press conference kind of trying

1303
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 2: to downplay, you know, criticism and just trying to have

1304
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: fun and the entertainment value, like this is just we

1305
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: make too big a deal. It's like, bo, You've been

1306
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,759
Speaker 2: making millions of dollars playing this sport since college, buddy,

1307
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: Like this is this isn't just like fun in games here,

1308
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 2: like this is a huge business. You're feeling the pressure,

1309
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: You're clearly not playing well. He lost your confidence but

1310
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 2: this isn't like an uncommon opponent, right for a young player.

1311
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 2: He has seen these guys a couple of times. I

1312
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,480
Speaker 2: would imagine this is the type team that over the offseason,

1313
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: you know, in OTAs or whatever, they put some periods in.

1314
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 2: This is something that is talked about in that building,

1315
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 2: probably over and over and over, you know, through training camp,

1316
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: right before the season starts. So this is a this

1317
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 2: is a huge spot. I'm tempted to just take the

1318
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: home team with the points, but I would be kicking

1319
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 2: myself if all of a sudden, you know, it's seventeen

1320
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: to seven and he's just skipping balls and looking like

1321
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 2: he's looked. It's like, how did I put any money

1322
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: bon Nicks? But just had a principle. They have what

1323
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 2: forty six sacks this year. The defense is awesome, you know, Chiefs.

1324
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 2: I guess they get Simmons back, which is big. So

1325
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 2: I it's it's hard to bet against the Chiefs, even

1326
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 2: though it's like, God, you're they're a huge home dog

1327
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: and they're eight and two. It's pretty crazy. With the

1328
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: best defense in the league.

1329
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, they're a little banged up. The

1330
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: Broncos as well. I mean, I don't think Stan's gonna

1331
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: play again, uh Singleton at linebacker. They have a couple

1332
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: of injuries at linebacker, but Certan is the big one.

1333
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: Like their defense is not the same without them. Now

1334
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: they've won too straight. But they beat the Raiders and

1335
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: they beat the Texans after Stroud got hurt. That's who

1336
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: they've played since Sartain went out not exactly a month.

1337
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: You know, they're the best offenses in the league. Now

1338
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: you're going up against Mahomes. This sets up as just

1339
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,799
Speaker 1: a pure chief spot, Like they're coming off of a bye.

1340
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: It's close to a must win. I mean, it's insane.

1341
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,440
Speaker 1: As of right now. The Chiefs aren't in the playoffs.

1342
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: The season ended today. They're not in the playoffs. And

1343
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,480
Speaker 1: if they lose this game, like the division.

1344
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 2: Well, if they lose in the Jags beat the Chargers,

1345
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 2: they would be in some trouble.

1346
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Jags Chargers, huge game, the biggest leverage game

1347
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: of the weekend. Jags win, they go I think sixty

1348
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: percent to make the playoffs. If they lose, it's down

1349
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 1: to like twenty. If the Chargers win, it's up to

1350
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: like eighty five ninety. If the Cheams it's a coin flip,

1351
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: huge game among teams that are battling each other because

1352
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: you get like the head to head as well.

1353
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 2: Who So, who are the Chiefs rooting for in that game? Uh,

1354
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: that's probably the Jags. Is just go away?

1355
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 1: That's a good question. They lost to both.

1356
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: So I looked at the Chargers schedule this morning. It

1357
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 2: actually gets pretty hard. Like, I mean, they still got

1358
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: a lot of good teams on It's not like they

1359
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: have a bunch of like Raiders and Panthers on there.

1360
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Chiefs host them, that's a tough one.

1361
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jags schedule at the end gets pretty easy.

1362
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: That was a killer loss to the Texans when they

1363
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: blew that lead, but they get They have the Jets,

1364
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 1: they have the Titans twice. They have the Cardinals after this,

1365
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: So you know, there's like four really winnable.

1366
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: Chargers still play the Eagles, they go to Kansas City,

1367
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: they have to go to Dallas, they play the Texans,

1368
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: which is gonna be a tough matchup for them with

1369
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 2: their all line, and they go to Denver. So I

1370
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 2: mean it's some of these matchups with their on line

1371
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:40,879
Speaker 2: are going to be really really challenging.

1372
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they might be written for the Jags, but

1373
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I ought to look into that.

1374
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: They just need to win before they can roof for ends.

1375
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: Yes, but like this sets up as a chief spot.

1376
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the Broncos have been I mean it's they've

1377
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: been fools gold all year. I mean the defense is

1378
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: really good, but now it's not healthy. And I mean

1379
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: you're talking about a team that and bo Nix's is

1380
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 1: playing horrendously, like so many off target throws and so

1381
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: many misses downfield. And this is a team. I mean

1382
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: you look at their their when he's looked good and

1383
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: bo Nix's numbers get into sad territory. If you remove

1384
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game at home and the Bengals game at home,

1385
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: and those are two defenses that are historically bad. You

1386
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: look at the rest of the schedule. I mean, they

1387
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: beat the Jets by two, who threw for negative ten

1388
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: passing yards. They beat the Giants by one. They were down,

1389
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: they didn't score in the first three quarters, and the

1390
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: Giants set the goal prevent they all their secondary guys

1391
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 1: get hurt, and they come back. They win by one.

1392
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: They beat the Texans by three, probably lose that game

1393
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 1: if Stroud doesn't get hurt. They only put up eighteen

1394
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 1: points and then they only put up ten against the

1395
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: Raiders defense, and it didn't look great. So yeah, I

1396
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: mean they're just they're a ticking time bomb. And this

1397
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: is a team like.

1398
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: He was, he was horrendous on Thursday and half. It

1399
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 2: was bad, he really was.

1400
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: They have so many come from beh I mean think

1401
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: I think they're one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

1402
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: seven and one seven and two in one score games,

1403
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: like they've become the Chiefs. And the Chiefs can't win

1404
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: a close game this year. Now, granted they won eleven

1405
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: and l last year that that stuff tends to revert,

1406
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: but the Chiefs are oh and two, oh and three.

1407
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are oh and four in one possession games

1408
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: this year. So this all this offsets up for like

1409
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: a Chief's close win, and but the numbers matter, and

1410
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 1: like this is three and a half. That's expensive. I mean,

1411
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,839
Speaker 1: you're paying for the spot and you're paying for everyone

1412
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: pretty much knowing that the Broncos are a bit of

1413
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: a fraud and banged up and the Chiefs really need

1414
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: this game. So I would imagine like the sharper side

1415
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: is the Broncos, but I'll probably have the Chiefs some

1416
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 1: form of f I should maybe like a square moneyline

1417
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: parlay or something, But I can't get to the number

1418
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: to like show value in winning to lay three and

1419
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: a half four points on the road. Denver's still a

1420
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: great home fielder. Then it's still a really good defense

1421
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,879
Speaker 1: that can get pressure. So but if Nix is a disaster,

1422
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna get blown out. So he's gonna I.

1423
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: Agree, I'm going Lions Sunday Night football. Looking at the schedule,

1424
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,879
Speaker 2: if you just looked at the Eagles, if they split

1425
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: the Packers Lions game, they were gonna be in great

1426
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: shape because they go They got Dallas, they get the Raiders,

1427
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: they get the Commanders, they get the Bears at home.

1428
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: You know on Thanksgiving Black Friday, they get the Commanders again.

1429
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: You know that they set it up for like thinking, Eagles, Commanders,

1430
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: we're gonna come down to the wire. Now the Eagles

1431
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 2: get to lick their chops, you know, with playing them

1432
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: two of the last three games. Now that one really

1433
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: hard game after the Lions is at Buffalo. But I

1434
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: don't think this must win when you kind of look

1435
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 2: around the NFC, even though obviously you would say going

1436
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: into it, you know they're probably more likely to win

1437
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: at home against Detroit Outdoors than they would travel to

1438
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 2: Green Bay. And you know they easily could have lost

1439
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 2: that game if green Bay just pulls their head out

1440
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 2: of their ass. But I don't know, man, I just

1441
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell hard to judge playing the Dan Quinn just

1442
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: atrocious defense right now. But I think Dan Campbll might

1443
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: have found a little mojo. And what I think is

1444
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: big is Dan's really good at understanding his players, and

1445
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: I think they started turning on the other guy right

1446
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 2: so it's like Dan's been part of the game plan.

1447
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing him to Ben Johnson as a play caller,

1448
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 2: but like he works hand in hand, like he knew

1449
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: the he's on the headset, so it's like he knows

1450
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 2: his guys really well. I just think that's a huge

1451
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,839
Speaker 2: motivational lift of like when players, especially veteran All Pro,

1452
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl level guys, turn on a coach, especially if

1453
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 2: he's somewhat of an outsider. I saw this with the

1454
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 2: forty nine ers when Fred Warner and Nick bos were like,

1455
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 2: we don't fuck with this Steve Wolks guy, Like we

1456
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 2: just don't believe he knows what he's doing. And when

1457
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: that happens, it's even high end guys can kind of

1458
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: just kind of go into a tank. We're all human beings.

1459
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 2: And I do wonder if Dan Campbell just gave them

1460
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 2: a little life putting on those glasses and calling I

1461
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 2: don't know, just pretty basic plays to Jamison Williams.

1462
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, they went. They finally leaned into

1463
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: the past more. I talked about this last week. I mean,

1464
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: I bet the Commanders what an amazing bet last week.

1465
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: But I talked about how the Lion's offensive gone into

1466
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: a tank and into the tank for the past month,

1467
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: and they couldn't run the ball at all. And a lot

1468
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: of that had to do with the offensive line not

1469
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: being as good, offensive line injuries, the interior not being

1470
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: as good. But if you look at like pass rush,

1471
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 1: I mean pass rate over expectation, this is the first

1472
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 1: game all year that they were positive. Now so and Morton,

1473
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 1: I just I didn't like the play calling and then

1474
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: they went and changed it and you had Campbell. Where

1475
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm struggling with this game is I mean, if the

1476
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: Eagles are are also like a ticking time, I mean

1477
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: They've gone six and one in one possession games. They

1478
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: could have lost. I mean, you had Kelsey dropped that

1479
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: pass in the end zone, the Rams, the block field goal.

1480
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: You know, you had the Vikings who were in the

1481
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: red zone like seven times and only came away with

1482
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: like two scores. They could have easily lost that game.

1483
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: And then the Packers like that was a coin foot game.

1484
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: They're six and one in one possession games. And the

1485
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: reason is that their offense, I mean almost fun unless

1486
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: they're playing the Giants, who can't stop the run. Their

1487
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: offense on a weekly basis almost like goes. They almost

1488
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: go like a whole half without scoring a point.

1489
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: You agree, their offensive line is not I mean it's

1490
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: a shell of what it was last year. Lane Johnson

1491
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,560
Speaker 2: in and out of lineup with always getting banged guard

1492
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: center guard is not as way worse.

1493
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: Miss Beckton Jurgens has been out there, and Lane Johnson's

1494
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 1: clearly just not one hundred percent healthy. So yeah, their offense,

1495
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: and that's why if you look at Barkley's numbers, they're

1496
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: they've fallen off a cliff as far as like yard

1497
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: set before contact, and he just doesn't have the same

1498
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: lanes that he did, and they did. The offense, yeah,

1499
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean this offense is hard to trust right now.

1500
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: But you got to give credit to the Eagles for

1501
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 1: just finding ways to win games.

1502
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 2: I said this yesterday. Siriani has kind of turned into

1503
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 2: what Tomlin would have been like twelve thirteen, fourteen, Like

1504
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: he can handle a lot of shit. This aj Brown

1505
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 2: thing would break a lot of young coaches. Like it's

1506
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 2: pretty just you know how Philly is. There's a lot

1507
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: going on. He is fifty five and twenty two. I

1508
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: guess he's got a lot of good players and a

1509
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 2: great general manager. But like I listen, I've been a

1510
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 2: hater over the years. You're fifty five and twenty two.

1511
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 2: It's like, and you won a Super Bowl? What are

1512
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 2: you gonna say?

1513
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's he's underrated in some of the

1514
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 1: in game stuff that he does with like the game management,

1515
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: clock management. I think he's very underrated that in that aspect.

1516
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: But where I'm struggling with this game is you, I mean,

1517
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: you nailed it? How much so the Lion's offense, which

1518
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: hadn't been trending, well, Dan Campbell goes to play car

1519
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:12,480
Speaker 1: and they did change some things and how they approached

1520
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 1: the game plan last week and how often they were throwing.

1521
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: But how much of that is okay Dan Campbell on

1522
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: the line's offense or was it the Washington defense who

1523
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: looked the first of all, are really bad, second of

1524
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: one like you have pain your only good player like

1525
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 1: throws a punch and gets thrown out, like just signs

1526
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: that they didn't want to be there. So how much

1527
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: do I like take I don't know what to take

1528
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: away from that game. How much was it Washington? How

1529
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: much is it Detroit? Tough to tell. I do think

1530
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be better, but by what magnitude? And then

1531
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: you have the Eagles defense, which for the full season

1532
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 1: wasn't great. It was, you know, by some advanced metters,

1533
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: it was like a league average group. You know, they

1534
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: weren't bad, but they weren't great, and they weren't as

1535
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: good as last year, but they just didn't have the

1536
01:20:55,479 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: same edge rush. Their secondary wasn't as good like after

1537
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 1: some of the losses that they had in the offseason.

1538
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: But this is the Fangio defense coming out of the buy.

1539
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:10,520
Speaker 1: You add Jalen Phillips, who looked really good, and they

1540
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: provided much needed juice off the edge he did, But

1541
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: how much of that was Green Bay's offensive being broken

1542
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: in their injuries? Because I mean at the end they

1543
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 1: were thrown to like Bo Milton, there's a reason they

1544
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: were trying to make them a corner. So like, how

1545
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 1: much do I take away from that Eagles defense? Are

1546
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: they back to like being the elite unit? So I

1547
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't have a strong feel on this game.

1548
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: There is some sharp money on the Eagles early in

1549
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 1: the week. Let me see what that lines at right now,

1550
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 1: I mean.

1551
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 2: I can The thing is Mitch the Lions, I mean, Amen,

1552
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: Raw is their quote unquote one. But he's kind of

1553
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,799
Speaker 2: a unique It's not like he's Ceedee Lamb or Justin Jefferson.

1554
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: They move them all around where Mitchell, right, it's like

1555
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: Taylor May do you just put them on Ceedee Lamb

1556
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 2: or you know, Ceede Lamb lines up in the same

1557
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,759
Speaker 2: places where the Lions kind of you know, moved their offensive.

1558
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: Web's kind of all around, right, So it's it's a

1559
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 2: little unique that they would rather just have Mitchell Garden

1560
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 2: Ceede Lamb or Justin Jefferson or whatever. But that's not

1561
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 2: really the Lions deal. Yeah, it's a tough because he's

1562
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: because he's because he's awesome. He's he's good. That's a

1563
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: good pick.

1564
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 1: He's amazing. Let me see that the Yeah, you do

1565
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: have golf outdoors, Like I could see the case where

1566
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: it's just like you trust the Eagles defense at home

1567
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: against golf outdoors, but it's hard to trust that that

1568
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: Eagles offen turn. I'm gonna see the weather is.

1569
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 2: I do think their defense, Like watching that Monday night

1570
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: game is like, uh, Jalx Hunt, I mean, he looks

1571
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 2: like he's got a chance to be a pretty good player.

1572
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 2: You add Phillips obviously, Jalen Carver. They have multiple linebackers

1573
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 2: really good, and you got Mitchell and Cooper and then

1574
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 2: if you just kind of rotate the other guys, like

1575
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 2: most teams don't have like seven good corners. I never

1576
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: feel that like much sympathy. It's like, well we're missing

1577
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 2: a corner. It's like, well, yeah, most teams are rolling

1578
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 2: out random corners like welcome to the NFL.

1579
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean look, yeah Hunt, I mean Nolan Smith,

1580
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: I mean Dean.

1581
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's back to I mean yeah, like.

1582
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: Mamble coming off like coming off the edge with Phillips.

1583
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: So they're starting to get some more goat and they

1584
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 1: got Vic. Yeah, now they can't like if they lose

1585
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: they the one position where they cannot lose anyone is

1586
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: they can't lose Carter or or Davis. Like the the

1587
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: D line, they're down. Defensive lineman still has like no depth.

1588
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: It's like rookies behind them. But the rest of the

1589
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 1: defensive starting to fill out. I'm interested to see. They

1590
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: also signed how he brought in how he generally makes

1591
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 1: very smart, sharp moves outside of getting Jay r Alexander

1592
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: who's stepped away from the.

1593
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 2: Do you get it? Do you get a redo on

1594
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 2: that one? Or the Ravens will get their pick.

1595
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: But they did. They did bring in Michael Carter, who's

1596
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: the cornerback Michael Carter, So, like, does that enable them

1597
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 1: over time to then play dejene and Williams on the

1598
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 1: outside and then play Carter and the nickel. That's an

1599
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: interesting potential wrinkle because they're their biggest weakness. One of

1600
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: their biggest weaknesses on defense, besides edge ruts, which which

1601
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: looks like to be improving on the upswing, is their

1602
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: second corner position has been a real weakness and one

1603
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: that other teams have really attacked because additionally, their safeties

1604
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: aren't great, so that could be an added wrinkle. You

1605
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: also have to keep in mind like Jurgens is banged up.

1606
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean, all their offensive linemen, like all their offensive

1607
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: lineen besides my hot are on the injury report. So

1608
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: how healthy is Lane Johnson? The numbers with him without

1609
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson are are stunning. And they've also been going

1610
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: jumbo a lot, which has helped the offense a bit,

1611
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: but without Lane Johnson that's much harder to do and

1612
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,839
Speaker 1: you can't do that as frequently. But like Steen Dickerson,

1613
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: they're also on the injury report, so there's some things

1614
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:57,759
Speaker 1: to watch here. I just don't have a great feel.

1615
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: I think we'll but I mean it's just like the

1616
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: Lions are probably gonna score. They score on mostly everyone,

1617
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: and if the Eagles offense goes into a tank for half,

1618
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: it's eventually going to burn them. And if this Campbell

1619
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 1: bump is real, then I can see the Eagles getting upset.

1620
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: But I just don't have a strong feel, like I

1621
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: really want another data point where this Eagles defense out

1622
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: of the by after some of the additions and with

1623
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: this Lion's offense looks with a new play caller.

1624
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 2: One game that's tough because a little bit like you know,

1625
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 2: playing the Washington Commanders. The Giants defense is pretty horrendous,

1626
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 2: and Caleb made some awesome plays with his feet. They

1627
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: obviously had a bunch of drops, but you know, it's

1628
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: freezing cold, you're gonna drop the ball sometimes outdoors. But

1629
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:46,840
Speaker 2: the Vikings, I mean, there was that one player. Was

1630
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 2: it the Humphrey pick. I think it was the Humphrey pick,

1631
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 2: not the Starks pick where Jefferson just quit. He's like,

1632
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not even chasing him. And sometimes I'll defend,

1633
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 2: like it's like, I look at the quarterback I have

1634
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 2: to play with right now, what are we? So it's

1635
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 2: sometimes I will defend, like obviously Antonio Brown. There's a

1636
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 2: level of like yeah, Terrell Owens, But like I don't

1637
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: mind Jefferson being like, hey, guys, what the hell did

1638
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 2: you you just signed me up for? Because this is

1639
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 2: a joke. This is not a two win team developing

1640
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: a quarterback. Here we were tailor made ready to win,

1641
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: and this guy he can have a good play and

1642
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 2: then he can just make a play like he's the

1643
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: worst quarterback in the NFL. But the Bears have stretches

1644
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: where on their defense is horrendous, and that their defenses

1645
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart was destroying them. And if Brian Dayball just

1646
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 2: didn't hate Russell Wilson with the power of a thousand

1647
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 2: suns and accept as the penalty of scores instead of

1648
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 2: kicking the field goal, I would imagine that they win

1649
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 2: that game, and that probably led to the day Ball

1650
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 2: getting fired. But I don't have a feel for this thing.

1651
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 2: I guess I would just lean the Bears. But again,

1652
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: you have to take the Bears record with the grain

1653
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 2: of salt, with how they look throughout most of these games.

1654
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 2: They're pulling games out of their ass with Kaylee run around.

1655
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 2: But I have that there's no way, and I mean

1656
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 2: no way I could put money on JJ McCarthy.

1657
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 1: Well I did. I could have guessed that.

1658
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 2: I yeah, because you like Flores against Caley, He's I.

1659
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: Mean, McCarthy's looked really bad. There's no doubt about that.

1660
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: In his defense, I mean my defense is he gets

1661
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: to play the Bears defense. The Bears defense which has

1662
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: been about like if you remove turnovers. I mean, this

1663
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 1: is a team They're plus fourteen on the season, on

1664
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: turnover margin, Like they have eight fumbles, they've only lost two.

1665
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: Their opponents have nine fumbles, they've recovered seven. They've also

1666
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 1: played the easiest strength of schedule in the league. I

1667
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: mean they're wins are the Cowboys the Commanders by one

1668
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: or because of fumbles, the Raiders by one because of

1669
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 1: Gino turnover was the rout game by like three hundred

1670
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: yards in that game Bengals, the Bengals, the Saints, and

1671
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: the Giants. They needed miraculous comebacks against the Raiders, the Commanders,

1672
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals and the Giants. I mean, they lose that game.

1673
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: Dart doesn't get hurt. And today that cycle, you could

1674
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: argue that those are the six worst defenses in the league.

1675
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 1: And so if you remove turnovers, the Bears are thirtieth

1676
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: in EPA per play on defense, basically right with the

1677
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: Bengals and Cowboys. If you look at early downs, so

1678
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,839
Speaker 1: first and second down without turnovers, which are more predictive

1679
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: than third downs, more variants, they're dead last, and he'd

1680
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 1: be able to play worse than the Bengals and the Cowboys.

1681
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 1: Like this defense can't get pressure, they can't stop their run.

1682
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: The Kyler Gordon and Jyalen Johnson. Two of the best

1683
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: players are on IR at the corner position. So I

1684
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: think that even the Vikings and McCarthy can move the

1685
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: ball even though they want to run it. The Bears

1686
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 1: can't cover the receivers. Hopefully McCarthy can get them the ball.

1687
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: And I will say, in fairness, the Eagles. The Vikings

1688
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: past five games have been against the Eagles, Ravens, Chargers, Lions,

1689
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: and Packers. A lot of good defenses in there, a

1690
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,799
Speaker 1: lot of good teams. Meanwhile, the Bears have been playing

1691
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 1: nothing but clowns. They even got to play the Ravens

1692
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 1: with with stup Puntley who went up and down the

1693
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 1: field on them. So yeah, I mean, the Bears have

1694
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: four crazy comebacks with an easiest schedule in the league,

1695
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 1: they could easily be a three and six team and

1696
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 1: Vikings with their defense, their defense is going to be

1697
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: the best unit on the field. Their runde's improved since

1698
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: they've gotten healthier with Van ginkel And and Cashman. And look,

1699
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: Caleb's playing better this year and the run game has

1700
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 1: been really good. But you got to remember he's played

1701
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: horrendous defenses all year and you watch him, he's still

1702
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: bailing from the pocket. He's still not efficient. He's making

1703
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: some really nice plays down field and they're explosive, but

1704
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: he's bailing from the pocket almost immediately. You'll see him

1705
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: just like one eighty out and then running around. I

1706
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: don't think that can work against the Flora's defense. Is

1707
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: still a huge home field advantage for the Vikings and

1708
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: like a must win. McCarthy's hard to trust as a favorite.

1709
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: But this this Bears team, and Caleb hasn't been good

1710
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: as good on the road. This Bears team is is

1711
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: is due to not have some bounces go their way.

1712
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 1: And I think even with McCarthy, this Vikings offense can

1713
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: move the ball pretty much at will against the Bears.

1714
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 2: O'Connell gets a little pass happy, you know. I mean

1715
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: that's he likes. He's got a little Andy Reid McVeigh.

1716
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 2: He would rather pass it every single play than never run. Yes,

1717
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 2: and I do. I do think that is very difficult

1718
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 2: on a quarterback who was trained and I would say,

1719
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 2: you know, probably got a graduate level degree playing at

1720
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 2: Michigan for Harborughn Crew. He learned playing football to complete

1721
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 2: opposite So this is a stark contrast of like, hey, man,

1722
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 2: you got Jerry Rice over here, and you got you know,

1723
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 2: Joey Galloway over here, and we're going bombs away. It's like,

1724
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 2: that's not how this kid learned how to play. So

1725
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 2: in fairness to JJ, they're asking him to do something

1726
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 2: that and he's barely played in the NFL, he's coming

1727
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 2: off an injury, his the prey, he's playing good opponents.

1728
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 2: It's it's not going well. And once I saw Jefferson

1729
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 2: just like, I was like, this is there's a lot

1730
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 2: going on there.

1731
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: It was a bad it was bad last ye. But

1732
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: it should be much easier because it's.

1733
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 2: Not like the Ravens even played that great. Would you

1734
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 2: agree with that? Yeah?

1735
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 1: No, Lamar, Like their their defense still can't stop the run.

1736
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 1: So like the Vicons be able to run. I think

1737
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,600
Speaker 1: the average like six r s carried McCarthy, just he

1738
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: doesn't run it and McCarthy just missed a bunch of throws.

1739
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: It was it was not a good look. But I

1740
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: will say the Raivens secondary as legit elite talent. The

1741
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: Bears have one of the worst in their thirty first

1742
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 1: and EPA per drop back. It's it's a bad, bad

1743
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 1: secondary and they don't get pressure. So if there's ever

1744
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: an opportunity for McCarthy to move the ball and he's

1745
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: only they can't. One his one good quarter did come

1746
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: against the Bears in his first game when they came

1747
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 1: back in that game, which I think just says more

1748
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: about the Bears defense. So yeah, this is like, this

1749
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: will be a much easier test for him.

1750
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: You got any upset alert on Oklahoma going into Title Town?

1751
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 2: Do you think that defense because Alabama can't run the ball.

1752
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: Can't run the ball, their defense isn't great, Like you

1753
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: can run on them. Oklahoma's found a bit of a

1754
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: rushing attack. Mobile quarterbacks can give Alabama problems. It's an

1755
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 1: interesting spot in that Alabama's revenge from last year like Oklahoma. Yeah,

1756
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 1: but this game is much more important for Oklahoma in

1757
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 1: that like Alabama's probably going to the cot fall ploff regardless,

1758
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: even if if they lose this game, they're still Okay.

1759
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: Oklahoma needs this game. I mean, maybe Oklahoma still gets

1760
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: in with we losses, but it gets dice heer and

1761
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: they're coming off of a bye. One of the best

1762
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 1: defensive players is questionable, Army Mason Thomas. But this defense

1763
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 1: is nasty Bama can't run it one dem being one

1764
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: dimensional against Oklahoma is a tough, tough task for Ty Simpson,

1765
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 1: who's played really well. I will say like the Oklahoma

1766
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: defense is one of the top maybe two or three

1767
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: in the country, but they've been a little vulnerable against

1768
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: the teams that can throw it. Like we saw a

1769
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 1: miss move it. We saw Tennessee throw it. The rest

1770
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: of the teams they played Texas, South Carolina, Kent State, Auburn, Temple, Michigan,

1771
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: Illinois State can't really throw it. So can Oklahoma get

1772
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: enough hits on Simpson and cause some mistakes here that'll

1773
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,639
Speaker 1: probably be the difference all of them. Is also really

1774
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 1: really good early on in games. Oklahoma can't get too

1775
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 1: far behind here. I would like a seven. I think okam'

1776
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 1: is gonna have a shot. Their special teams are also

1777
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: much better. Have a really good kicker, one of the

1778
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: best kickers in the country Albama special teams.

1779
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 2: Little the guy that wears no pants.

1780
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he wears a arm sleeve. He's a really

1781
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: really good kicker that could get them some hidden points.

1782
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 1: Alabama struggled on special teams this year to start is important.

1783
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: I would like a seven year. To be honest, the

1784
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 1: Lion has come down off of seven, which I think

1785
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 1: does make sense. But I might look to back Oklahoma

1786
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 1: live if Bama goes up, which they often do, and

1787
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 1: I anticipate Vnables will have a good game plan. This

1788
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 1: is on defense. This will be a great chest mat,

1789
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 1: especially coming off the buy. But I assume that so

1790
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 1: will de boor and grow up offensively in the in

1791
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: the script, and I'm sure they've been itching to get

1792
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: their gift back on Oklahoma. So yeah, really good game.

1793
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: It's a really boring college slate other than this game

1794
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 1: and two similar games. Then you have Texas Georgia. Georgia

1795
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:01,879
Speaker 1: can afford the loss. Texas really needs.

1796
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 2: To win, coming in with some momentum. Arch just had

1797
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 2: the best game of his career. Yeah, they beat the crap.

1798
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 2: I mean the final score thirty four to thirty one,

1799
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 2: but didn't Bandy score like twenty fourth quarter points? They

1800
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 2: I watched they beat the crap out of Andy in

1801
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 2: that game. Yeah that Arch was awesome.

1802
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Archers looked much better. But the two teams he's

1803
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 1: faces like Dandy, who look gassed in the Mississippi state.

1804
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 1: So how much of it is Arch improving now. I

1805
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 1: will say the Texas offensive line has been a lot

1806
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,799
Speaker 1: to blame for some of their offensive struggles. But Georgia

1807
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: can't get pressure. I mean they're defense outside the top

1808
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and pressure rate, bottom ten sack rate, so

1809
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: that should help Arch here. The Texas defense is really good.

1810
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 2: This was a twenty twenty four I remember probably the

1811
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,679
Speaker 2: most intense just sitting down for a game and buckling

1812
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 2: up for this matchup last year. But Michel Williams and

1813
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 2: obviously Javon Walker are gone. And Walker, what do you

1814
01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 2: have like three and a half sacks in that regular

1815
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 2: season they had?

1816
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 1: Georgia had thirteen sacks in two games against Texas. They

1817
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 1: swept Axas last year, once in the regular season, once

1818
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 1: in the SC Championship game. Georgia has eleven total sacks

1819
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: this year.

1820
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:09,719
Speaker 2: That was crazy.

1821
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:13,639
Speaker 1: They'd thirteen against Texas and Texas had an elite offensive line,

1822
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 1: so the pressure rates way down, so it should be

1823
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: easier on Arch.

1824
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 2: The Georgia Javon Walker in those games look like I

1825
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 2: don't know, Lawrence Taylor, Yeah.

1826
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 1: He was dominant. So what what like is you have

1827
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 1: Arch coming off of a bye two?

1828
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:37,600
Speaker 2: So I Jalen I keep going to Javon like the Raiders.

1829
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah so yeah, I mean, I think Arts has looked better.

1830
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 1: He settled in, but he did get to play Vandy

1831
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 1: in Mississippi State. This is a team that still couldn't

1832
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: move the ball at all at Kentucky should have lost

1833
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 1: that game. And then you gotta remember a Missippi State.

1834
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: They were down seventeen in the fourth quarter before he

1835
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: turned it on, and then Georgia just went in the

1836
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 1: Missippi they dominated them. Would like to get a seven here,

1837
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:07,480
Speaker 1: I will say though, Georgia's games all go the same way.

1838
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: They go down in the first quarter of every game.

1839
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: All s SEA games except Kentucky, they've been down. They've

1840
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: been outscored in the first quarter, I think by twenty

1841
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: on the season in their SEC games, so they come

1842
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 1: out flat. Their defense is just not It's not a

1843
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,759
Speaker 1: national title contend caliber defense. I think they would stolen

1844
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,759
Speaker 1: it offshore, but it's going to be in the backs

1845
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 1: of their offense. The defense is just nowhere close to

1846
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 1: like your older brothers Georgia elite defenses. But they go

1847
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 1: down almost every game, and then Kirby has like carried

1848
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 1: them to like Georgia and Alabama, are very similar to me.

1849
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: Their defenses are down a bit for different reasons. Their

1850
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 1: offenses Georgia can at least run at Alabama can't. But

1851
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 1: they've won a number of games they easily could have lost,

1852
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 1: And a lot of that goes back to coaching. There

1853
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:54,879
Speaker 1: are two very well coached teams, but Kirby in particular

1854
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: is the best in game adjuster in college football. So

1855
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 1: if you see Georgia early, usually a good live bet.

1856
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they've been incredible in the fourth quarters. In

1857
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: the second half, he saw them shut out Alabama. So

1858
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,679
Speaker 1: I would lean taking the points looking for Georgia live,

1859
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: but would like to get us seven there again. And

1860
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:18,879
Speaker 1: that's what I mentioned. I did fade my Ravens Browns,

1861
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: Brown's at home, Brown's home defense with weather like I

1862
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,200
Speaker 1: don't know who's scoring in this game, Lamar, I don't

1863
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 1: think a hundred. He doesn't have the same burst, so

1864
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 1: you take away his legs and mobility against that defensive line.

1865
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 1: You also can't run it on Cleveland, and if there's

1866
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: a ton of wind, that only hurts the Ravens. The

1867
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 1: Browns can't throw it downfield. You can run a little

1868
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 1: bit on the Ravens. The Browns have been incredible at home.

1869
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 1: Crazy stat I'll finish with last three years Brown's Brown's

1870
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,759
Speaker 1: at home thirteen and eight against the spread sixty two percent,

1871
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: on the road five and seventeen against the spread twenty

1872
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: two percent. That's worse than the league, worse than the Titans,

1873
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 1: who never cover. They've been They've caught a touchdown or

1874
01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 1: more at home three times in the past three years.

1875
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 1: Not only have they covered all three, they won all

1876
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 1: three outright. They beat the Ravens last year. The forty

1877
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: nine ers remember that game last year and the Packers

1878
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 1: earlier this year they shut down everyone at home. No,

1879
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think are the Ravens gonna get

1880
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 1: more than seventeen with a nine hundred percent lamar, I

1881
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 1: don't think so? Can the Browns get the ten? Sure?

1882
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: So I did? I bet the Browns plus plus the

1883
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:26,759
Speaker 1: points there getting over a touchdown and which the totals

1884
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 1: down to like thirty nine.

1885
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 2: Doing. Gabriel might not be good.

1886
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: He's terrible. I'm back in Gabriel and McCarthy. What could

1887
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 1: go wrong? It just is gonna to be in the

1888
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 1: back like this has to be at Browns seventeen thirteen

1889
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: thirteen ten type of game because fifteen thirteen, Yeah, Gabriel

1890
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 1: is they're gonna have to do it. How they They

1891
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 1: should have beat Varro, they did beat love in the Packers,

1892
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 1: and they held the Dolphins at three points. But yeah, dude,

1893
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna They're just gonna to run it and rely on

1894
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 1: their d The weather should help a ton though.

1895
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Stucky, thank you, and enjoy the weekend. I'm sure

1896
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 2: you've got a lot going on, college basketball, college football, NFL.

1897
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 2: It's a good time of year, So I will talk

1898
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 2: to you.

1899
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you in a week absolutely. How you going, brother.

1900
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 2: The volume