1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Wow, yea yea, what is up? Welcome to another edition 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: of the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your man, 3 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: MG Marcus Grants, still vaccinated, still hoping to get back outside, 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: and still dodging the Delta like Neo in the Matrix, 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: although now we've got Delta Plus, which sounds like a 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: really wack subscription service. Um, and so many other things. 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: From anyway, that's neither here nor there. We got another 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: fun show for you today. As a training camp rolls along, 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: Producer Justin is alongside as always. We are glad to 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: be back with you two times a week now, that is, 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: uh for from now until the foreseeable future, until either 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: they kick us off the air or until next season ends, 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: whichever comes first. UM. Glad to be joined by a 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: guy who I guess now because this is his second appearance, 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: can officially be classified as a friend of the show, 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: A guy who I've watched, I've seen his career sort 17 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: of blossom and continue to bubble and continue uh to grow, 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: he writes at four for four, among a number of 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: other places that believe contributor NBC Sports Edge too. If 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, and uh it is Chris Allen, I'm 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: sure I've left something out of the bio. Please fill 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: in the gaps that I have missed. The only other 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: spot that I'm currently contributing to is the one that's 24 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: like right over my shoulder, right there would be the 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: football guys. I'm over there as well. But uh, Marcus, 26 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you bringing me on today, And for 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: those of you listening at home, I'm just gonna I'm 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: gonna geek out for a second and go fanboy for 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: just a few minutes here, because let's say not just 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: like three seasons ago, I was listening to an NFL 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: podcast that was headlined by the folks that are currently 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: known as the Fantasy Stronghold. It was, I mean leading, 33 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm led by folks like yourself, Marcus. I mean there's 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: a wonderful gentleman by the name of Matt Harmon, Alex 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: galhar James Co, Matt Franciscovic, I mean so many of 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: those guys that I I mean, quote UNQO grew up 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: listening to famously football and getting that fancy football news 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: from And now I get a chance to talk with you. 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: I've been had a chance to. I just did a 40 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: show with Matt Harmon about a week ago. I did 41 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: a show with James co about two three weeks ago. 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: So it's just for me being able to talk with 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: the folks that I came up in the industry listening to. 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: It's just it's a dream come true to me. So 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm happy to get this chance to talk with you today. Well, dude, 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm honored, I'm flattered, I'm I'm glad you're here. 47 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: I'm glad to see you kind of just blossom and 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: continue to grow. Uh. And I will say we are 49 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: always you talk about James and Matt and Alex and 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: and and franchise. We are always still sort of amazed 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: at how much of an impact we made. I will 52 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: tell you that in my career, certainly doing this um 53 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: that period of my life was maybe the most fun 54 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: I've ever had. Uh And uh it showed. I still 55 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: remember so many of those outtakes from from the shows 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: and and all that other stuff. So yeah, I believe 57 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: in you guys. Will be glad to know anybody listening 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: out there too that we all still talk pretty regularly, 59 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 1: and we all still make a lot of the same 60 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: stupid inside jokes on the show, so some thing's never 61 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: really change. Um. All right, let's let's talk some football. 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: Let's start off with some training camp bits here, and UM, 63 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: I had the chance to talk to Michelle Majuke on Tuesday, 64 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: and we talked about, you know, how much stock you 65 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: should put into preseason news bits. I mean, I know 66 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: we all tend to go crazy for it, because especially 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: once we hit August, we're just sort of thirsty for 68 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: any kind of news. Um. But yea, some headlines here 69 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: that I think are sort of interesting and kind of 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on them. The first one, 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: I know sort of hits close to home for you 72 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: with the Cincinnati Bengals. Uh. You know, I know, I 73 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: know these struggles of being a Bengals fan. It's sort 74 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: of a love hate relationship. But the news coming out 75 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: about the Bengals offense so far in camp has not 76 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: been particularly good. Uh, stories of them just looking disjointed 77 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: and and inconsistent, and Joe Burrow sort of being at 78 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: the center of that. I've had issues with interceptions, issues 79 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: with inconsistency. Um, this was a guy that we all 80 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: sort of liked. We saw what he did last year 81 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: before he got hurt and we were hopeful for what 82 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: he can be this year. How concerned are you when 83 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: you were hearing or reading these stories about Burrow and 84 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: his struggles Right now, I'll be at least I'll be 85 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: honest and say that I am somewhat concerned. I will 86 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: say that my eyebrow is like a little bit raised 87 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: like when I see some of those stories. But I 88 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: do need to keep in context the of the fact 89 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: that this is the season that he's coming off of 90 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: that grew some knee injury against you, he sustained against 91 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Washington last season. They've now added in what I as 92 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: multiple pieces along the offensive line, or they've had guys 93 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: coming back from injury. They're adding in Jamaar Chase as well, 94 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: who we think is going to be at least a 95 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: positive for that offense. But it's going to take time 96 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: for them to at least get up to speed together 97 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: now at the NFL level. So it's just I can understand, 98 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: like today, like today August five, I understand, like some 99 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: of those serence that he's been trying to push himself 100 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: back into being ready to start for the Cincinnati Bengals 101 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: since I think he just got cleared. What was it, 102 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of months ago or something like that. 103 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: So it's just it makes sense that this is where 104 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: the offense is at. But if you compare that to 105 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: all of the other training camp stories that we've been 106 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: hearing from pretty much any other team, maybe minus the Giants, 107 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: but we've heard positive things out of most of the camps. 108 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: Even some of the rookie quarterbacks have comeing out. Trevor 109 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence is getting like glowing reviews. I mean, even Zack 110 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: Wilson to some degree is already starting to connect with 111 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: his wide receivers after his holdout situation. So it's just 112 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: where it seems like the Bengals are lacking behind. But 113 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: the one thing that I did catch this was from 114 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Paul Dinner Jr. At The Athletic, was that he noted 115 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: that this is the first week of camp. It's also 116 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: the first week where they're essentially installing the offense, where 117 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: it's just they're running a specific number of plays, a 118 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: specific set of plays. So it's not like a game, 119 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: like a live game situation where the quarterback can check 120 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: in and out of place and like move the offense 121 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: like he would want to. So I can understand why 122 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: there might be some frustration because they're still trying to 123 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: feel each other out. They're trying to figure out the timing, 124 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: the synchronicity of how that offense is supposed to move, 125 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. So I get it so 126 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: again on August five, I'm okay with it now. If 127 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: we're still hearing these stories on August, then, of course, 128 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: then now I'm just gonna be okay. I'm just gonna 129 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: prepare myself for another like let down for the season, 130 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: and we'll go from there. But for right now, I 131 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: think I'm kind of okay with it. I'm still hoping 132 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: that they come out with their high volume passing someone 133 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: and then we continue to see more of that wide 134 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: receiver trio Joe Mixon involved as well, and everything will 135 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: be okay once the season starts, because it's not gonna 136 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: be easy. But I think they open against Minnesota, Chicago, 137 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: and I believe it's also Pittsburgh, I think in in 138 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: week three, So it's not gonna be an easy start 139 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: to the season, but at least if they have some 140 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: of those core concepts like installed and ready to go, 141 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: it won't be as tough sledding at we think it 142 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: can be. Right now, well, The one thing that Burrow 143 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: has over say Daniel Jones, is that Joe Burrow has 144 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: not been in the bottom of a pile with a 145 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: brawl going on, so so he kind of has that 146 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: working for him there. I do think, look, there is 147 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: some something to be said for letting him sort of 148 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: work his way back in and kind of get get ready. 149 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: You know, some of the reports almost seemed like it's 150 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: it's still a little bit in his head the injury, 151 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't be the first person in the history 152 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: of pro sports to sort of have to battle that 153 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: mental part. But you hear stories of him sort of 154 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, maybe walking gingerly or stepping out of the way, 155 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: or maybe letting the ball go early, just you know, 156 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 1: perhaps it it is sort of in his head about 157 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: this knee injury and trying to protect himself. And so 158 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: if he can get comfortable again, maybe he goes back 159 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: to being the guy that we saw, you know that 160 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: last year at l s U and and you know 161 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: for the first part of the season last year before 162 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: he got hurt. You mentioned Jamaar Chase, and you know, 163 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: Chase is sort of the new headliner in that wide 164 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: receiver corps. But Tee Higgins is a very good player. 165 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd is a good player there as you are 166 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: sort of tempering your expectations and taking all these reports 167 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, does that apply to how 168 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: you feel about these wide receivers as well when you're 169 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: looking at drafting him somewhat because Jamaar Chase, I think 170 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: currently where he's going out in drafts was already at 171 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: like a pretty high, like high draft cost as at 172 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: least as compared to the other guys. I'm more into 173 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: te Higgins myself just because of the data that supports 174 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: like a second year breakout like Tea Higgins, And we 175 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: saw what his production even looked like with whether it 176 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: was Andy Dalton, whether it was Ryan Finley, whether it 177 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: was that weird like Brandon Allen game that was thrown 178 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: in like towards the back end of the season. So 179 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: all of that goes to point towards like Higgins kind 180 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: of reproducing that and actually ascending or like moving past 181 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: what he did last year. So I'm still in on 182 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: te Tyler Boyd. We know what his role is primarily 183 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: playing out of the slot. We at least can associate 184 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: like most of those targets like from Joe Burrow, like 185 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: some of those like two Tyler too, Tyler Boyd, So 186 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: I can see him continuing to produce. It's just Chase 187 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: that I have the most concerned about, just given the 188 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: opportunity costs with drafting him. It's he's going to be 189 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: his rookie season, regardless of the connection that him and 190 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: Burrow had when they were at l s U were 191 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: at least a almost two years removed from that. So 192 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: it's just I can see Chase maybe having a slow 193 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: start to this season, especially against some of those defensive 194 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: coverages that we just talked about, but maybe towards the 195 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: back end of this season, after they get more reps 196 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: they're seeing they seem more live action together, that might 197 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: start to click and then we can at least see 198 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: Chase as being the guy that we want to draft 199 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: in Are you sort of surprised with Tyler Boyd because 200 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: it just seemed like a few years ago we were 201 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: talking about him as sort of being the successor to 202 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: a J Green that Bengals offense that all of a sudden, 203 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, the Higgins shows up. We love Tee Higgins. 204 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: Vajamar chases there and he has sort of become, you know, 205 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: the king of the of the depth chart there. Um. 206 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: I mean I don't, I don't really have a question 207 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: just what happened. I have no idea what happened to 208 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyden that stretch. I feel like it's just more 209 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: of our connection to like the shiny things like in 210 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: the in the Receiving Corpse. It's almost the same way 211 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: that I look at the Dallas trio where it's like works, 212 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: We're focused on Ceedee Lamb. We know our Marii Cooper 213 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: can be good, but Michael Gallup is the one that 214 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: kind of gets left out in the cold, even though 215 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: like he's still produced like down the stretch, like with 216 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: again Andy Dalton. But still it's just we tend to 217 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: focus on those guys versus the guy that we think 218 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: at least can have at least some sort of production 219 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: like here and there with especially but especially with Tyler Boyd. 220 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: We know those slot targets can at least produce like 221 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: more yards after the catch. We can see him like 222 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: at least still being involved in the red zone and 223 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: all that. So I'm not entirely sure like he's been 224 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: the guy that I've been targeting the most in drafts, 225 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: to be honest, just because the price differential between him 226 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: and the other two receivers that are currently going ahead 227 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: of him in drafts is just so wide. I'll take 228 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: the value with Boyd versus trying to figure out, you know, 229 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: should I get Higgins, should I get Chase. It's just 230 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: I'll just take Boyd almost two three rounds later. This 231 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: time last year, I was calling Michael Gallup the Jan 232 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: Brady of fantasy football. We were really talking about him 233 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: and like, maybe Tyler Boyd. Maybe Tyler Boyd slots into 234 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: that category to I think, I, look, there's something there. 235 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: We just seem to be enamored with the other two 236 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: guys ahead of him on the depth chart. Um. So 237 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: three Cohen uh dealing with an a c L injury. 238 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: He is on the pup list. Apparently he is weeks 239 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: away from being activated. Look, I think best case for 240 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: three Cohen, you were talking about taking him late. You 241 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: were sort of playing for him as being, you know, 242 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: the pass catching guy and giving you that that sort 243 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: of PPR upside. Now it looks like Damian Williams is 244 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: stepping in there and actually doing pretty well in his 245 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: stead there in training camp, but but my bigger question 246 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: is are we undervaluing David Montgomery? Because last year when 247 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: Cohen went out, Montgomery caught the ball very effectively. He 248 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: had a nice schedule that he took advantage of. Um 249 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: he's got a fairly nice schedule this year. I mean, 250 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: should we be giving him more love than we are 251 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: right now? I think collectively we should. I guess subjectively 252 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: we should, but objectively, like where he's currently going in drafts, 253 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to push him ahead some of 254 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: the guys that he's currently being drafted around. I've typically 255 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: been drafting over an underdog just because I love their 256 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: like I love the app I just can't I can't 257 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: get more like you know, it's just so easy to 258 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: just like, oh, I want to draft a team right now. 259 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: But where he's currently going in and draft, so I 260 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: just right behind guys like j K. Dobbins, Chris Carson, 261 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: but right ahead of guys like Miles Sanders, I mean, 262 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: Darren Henderson, who I would actually probably prefer Joe Henderson, 263 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: but that's just my personal preference. But it's just the 264 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: company that he keeps in terms of ADP makes it 265 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: hard for me to justify taking him ahead of those guys. 266 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: But I totally understand from a workload perspective why you 267 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: would want to. There's really zero competition in terms of 268 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: him not taking or not being able to earn the 269 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: majority of the rushing attempts. And then even if Tarik 270 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: Cohen is out, I get that Damian Williams is still 271 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: a part of that offense, and like Damian Williams is 272 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: now a part of that offense, he should be in 273 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: line for passing down work as well. But from a 274 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: red zone perspective, like the money touches that we want, 275 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: I can't see at least a scenario where Damian Williams 276 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: completely separates himself from David Montgomery and now gets the 277 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: touches that we need, like for a running back. So 278 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: I totally understand. If anything, I do think of this 279 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: as a situation where I think we're under value and 280 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Damian Williams just because he's had the entire season off 281 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: I get that he's twenty nine years old, but we're 282 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: only like two seasons removed of him. At least again, 283 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: in my mind, he should have been the Super Bowl 284 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: m v P when they when they, when the Kansas 285 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: City won. But I still think now we're undervalue Damian Williams, 286 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: considering he goes so far, like so deep in drafts, 287 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: it's just an easy smash, like for me to go 288 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: and take him as your RB four, RB five or 289 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: something like that if you're talking about a best ball build. 290 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: So I think he's I think, uh, going back to Montgomery, 291 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: I think he's appropriately valued, But I can't see a 292 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: scenario where he winds up jumping some of those other 293 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: guys just because of the workload that he might be afforded. 294 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: But I think really it just comes down to when 295 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: it's justin fields going to start, because if he winds 296 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: up starting earlier, you know the impact of mobile quarterbacks 297 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: or at least the possibility of fields like being more mobile. 298 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: We know that impact on the running back. So we'll 299 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: just see how that works out, how that plays out 300 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: during the season. I think. I think what you touched 301 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: on to the important part for me at least, was 302 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: when you talk about where do you put David Montgomery 303 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: in the pecking order in the rankings, It is like, Okay, 304 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: well who do you put who do you put him 305 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: ahead of? Um? And I think that's I think that's 306 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: sort of the issue here is that we might like 307 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: David Montgomery and we might like what he can do, Um, 308 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: but it is aboutable. Okay, well who do you move down? Um? 309 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: You know, and I've I've noticed that I've I've felt 310 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: the same way with say, like wide receivers. Right when 311 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: you're trying to put together your top ten wide receivers, 312 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: somebody really good, it's probably gonna get left out of 313 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: that top ten, and it's like, well what do I do? 314 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: Who do I? Yeah? And I think I think Montgomery 315 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: has sort of become that guy. But hey, maybe that 316 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: works out. Maybe that maybe somebody ends up getting a 317 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: value pick, uh, if if things turn out well. And 318 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: and the Damian Williams thing is I think really interesting too, 319 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: because you're right, a couple of years ago, Um, you know, 320 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: we were really big on him. The way he finished 321 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: out the season, the way he played in the postseason, 322 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: he was really really good. Uh. And yeah, maybe he 323 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: is twenty nine, but maybe we can roll it back 324 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: to twenty eight since he since he took a year off. Maybe, yeah, 325 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: it's one one less, one less year on the legs. 326 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: All right, we have football like substance on our televisions 327 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: to night Uh. The Hall of Fame Game, uh will 328 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: be played on Thursday night between the Dallas Cowboys and 329 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't want to. I mean, I 330 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: guess it is football, but it's football like substance because 331 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: I know we're not gonna see a lot of the 332 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: headliners very long, if at all. But you know, one 333 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: we are thirsty for for football. Uh So a lot 334 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: of us are going to tune in and watch it, 335 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: and there is something to be I think gleaned from 336 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: these games. For you. What kind of things are you 337 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: going to be watching for when you turn this on? Uh? 338 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: Two things in particular. One would be how each offense 339 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: like behaves, like what are the play calling tendencies during 340 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: the game itself? Like, while I don't think that there's 341 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: gonna be any sort of special packages or trick plays 342 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: or any of that stuff that are going to be 343 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: shown by either offense, it's more about what are they're 344 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: like based like rates in terms of like passing rushing, 345 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: how are they behaving like once they get into the 346 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: red zone. That's really what I'm gonna be paying attention to, 347 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: like for both offenses, because we know, at least for 348 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: Dallas regardless of because we already know like Dak Prescott 349 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: isn't gonna be there, a Marii Cooper most of the 350 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: like not most of but maybe a couple of their 351 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: starting offensive linemen. We know those guys aren't gonna be there, 352 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: but we do need to see if they're still going 353 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: to be at least up tempo in terms of their offense. 354 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Are they going to be passing more so than they're 355 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: going to be rushing, so at least that gives us 356 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: some sort of confidence that they're still going to be 357 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: doing the same things that they were doing before everybody 358 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: essentially everybody got injured last year. So that's what I'm 359 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: going to be looking for. The other part is going 360 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: to be, well, who are the answer receivers that are 361 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: going to be involved? And actually the back end of 362 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: the answer receivers, right like who is it Semi Failcal 363 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: that's a part of the Dallas the Dallas wide receiver corps. 364 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: I think it was fourth or fifth round receiver. I'm 365 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: not mistaken when they drafted him. But is he going 366 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: to be involved and how does he produce? So any 367 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: of the backups, like the guys that you know in 368 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: case of emergency break glass like type of guys, Like 369 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: if everybody were to go down, who's the guy that 370 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: we want to try and target like off our waver 371 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: for wires, like during the middle or back end of 372 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: the season. So those are the guys I'm gonna try 373 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: and have my eye on. And if there's anybody that 374 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: starts to stand out again, just put a little you know, 375 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: mental check, you know, in the back of your head, 376 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: and if something were to happen, then those would be 377 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: the guys that we try and target on our waiver wires. 378 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: I know that the Steelers have said Mike Tomlins said 379 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: that they want Nigi Harris to play in all the 380 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: preseason games. I don't think that means we're gonna see 381 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: a lot of him necessarily, especially to night. I can't 382 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: imagine it, um, but but how interested are you to 383 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of watch him and see, uh, you know, if 384 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: he can be the guy we want him to be. 385 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: That's actually a key point, like if he does wind 386 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: up playing or at least at any point during the preseason, 387 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: is how does he handle contact as he is able 388 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: to break through tackles, and also how much is he 389 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: going to be used in the passing game, because that's 390 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: really essentially what's propping up a lot of his draft 391 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: costs right now because in most in most drafts, regardless 392 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: of if it's half PPR, full PPR or whatever, I mean, 393 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: he still has that second round draft capital associated like 394 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: with him. So we really need him to be a 395 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: pass catcher at least like heavily involved in the passing 396 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: game in order to pay that off, because we're not 397 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: expecting at least the Pittsburgh Steelers offense as a whole 398 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: to be a juggernaut like has like it has been 399 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: in years asked, So I really need to see that 400 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: opportunity for him. So if we're seeing some checkdowns from 401 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: Ben or like Mason Rudolph, I'm assuming is gonna be 402 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 1: playing tonight. That's what I need to see out of him. 403 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: And if that becomes the case, then yes, I'll buy 404 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: into more of his like rookie season workload, all right. 405 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know people love him. I've seen his 406 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: ADP continually rising throughout the summer. Uh, And it'll be 407 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: fun to see what happens tomorrow because if he know, 408 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: if he plays great in his limited time, that that 409 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: ADP is gonna go up even more. If he has 410 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: one bad if he has one bad play, you know 411 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: somebody on Twitter is gonna freak out and be like 412 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: I told you of course, Yeah, that's just how we operate. UM. 413 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about some of the 414 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: stuff you've written over at for for four lately, because 415 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: you you kind of hit quarterbacks a lot in in 416 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: recent weeks, and so you did a list of quarterbacks 417 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: who are overvalued and one of the names on that 418 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: list was justin Herbert. How much hate did you get 419 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: in your mentions when you put that out there? A 420 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: little bit some folks like coming at me and like 421 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: some d M threads that I'm attached to, like, hey man, 422 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: I heard you said some stuff about my Chargers and 423 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 1: I understand, and I'm actually one of those folks that 424 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: I still believe in the Chargers offense. And that's what 425 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: makes writing that piece like every year, like something of 426 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: a difficulty because year essentially, and I think this is 427 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: the way I opened the article, It's like you're walking 428 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: a tight rope because all of the guys that I 429 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: typically right up when I do that piece, they're drafting 430 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: the top twelve or even like the top eight, Like 431 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: every like during this, like in the during the off season, 432 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: but I'm actually like, I'm in on some of those 433 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: guys too. I've talked about Aaron Rodgers, I talked about 434 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and likedn Jalen Hurts, but Herbert especially because, yeah, 435 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: I bought into him last season. I mean, after the 436 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: to Rod Taylor thing. He gets thrown in at the 437 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: last minute, I mean, and it completely balls out for 438 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: the rest of the season and he I think, to 439 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: meet me personally, I think Justin Jefferson should have got 440 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, but I understand, like why they 441 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: gave it to Herbert. Totally get it. But the kid 442 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: played well, like it almost a complete one eight from 443 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: what folks thought of him coming out of college. All 444 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: good things. But when you talk about overvalued quarterbacks, it's 445 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: not necessarily the fact that they're going to bust. It's 446 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: just that, well, if you're drafting him at QB six 447 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: and you're thinking that they could ascend into QB three, 448 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: but you should also at least consider the fact that 449 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: they could slide three spots in the other direction and 450 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: maybe finish as QB nine, QB ten, QB eleven. So 451 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: that's Really why I write that piece is to just 452 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: tell folks like, hey, consider the full range of outcomes 453 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: instead of just saying, well, I'm going to draft this 454 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: guy high because I think you can go even higher. Well, 455 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: if you can go even higher, he can also you know, 456 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: go a bit lower as well, because just because the 457 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: statistical probability of that happening, so Justin Herbert, it's especially 458 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: especially possible because of the play caller that they currently 459 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: have there. They bring in Joe Lombardi, who, again it 460 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: was he was associated with Drew b Drew Brees like 461 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: throughout the most of his career, and all good things 462 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: to come from like Drew Brees. I mean we're talking 463 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: about just pinpoint accuracy. I mean, we've in his connection 464 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: with Michael Thomas, I mean all, I mean, everything is 465 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: good at a macro level. But then when you zoom 466 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: in and you compare that to what Justin Herbert did 467 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: or how he operated last season, almost a complete stylistic 468 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: difference between those two offensive play calling types the Chargers 469 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: last season, they were up paced in terms of like 470 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: neutral passing rate, like neutral pace, like the neutral place, 471 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: like during the neutral situations in games. I mean, all 472 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: of it. And even like rushing attempts as well, because 473 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of mobility out of Justin Herbert. 474 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: None of that has been the case for Joe Lombardi 475 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: and the Saints. They operated at a slower pace because 476 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: at least for them, they knew that Drew Brees could 477 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: get the ball wherever they needed to as long as 478 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: it was within like ten yards, you know, from the 479 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: last scrimmage. I mean, but all of those things, it's 480 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: just it makes it harder for me to buy into, 481 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: at least the fact that Herbert can hit his ceiling 482 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: versus it being possible that hey, maybe they start off slow, 483 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: maybe Herbert winds up having to take a couple of 484 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: steps back while he's still figuring out the offense. We 485 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: might see more of a resurgence towards the middle of 486 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: the season. The anal you that I gave, I gave 487 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: him the piece was just that maybe everybody should remember 488 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: that first like six weeks or so with Baker Mayfield 489 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: and Kevin Stefanski, where it was slow, more rushing production 490 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: than passing production. Odell gets hurt. But then after those 491 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: weather bad weather games the weeks ten and week twelve, 492 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: the offense took off and then they wind up giving 493 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs of running for their money in the playoffs. 494 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: I can see the same situation happening for the Chargers 495 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: in Herbert. It's just that we're drafting him at what 496 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: QB six, QB seven, like right around where Russell Wilson goes, 497 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: and he could still finish high. But it could be 498 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: QB nine, QB ten, something like that. So it's just 499 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: something to consider. Yeah, No, I mean, and I think 500 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: I know this time of year we love talking up players, right, 501 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: And I tweeted the other day that we were at 502 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: the point in the year where I can throw out 503 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: probably any offensive skill position player on any roster, and 504 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: somebody will make a case for why that player should 505 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: be drafted. Because we always were so optimistic this time 506 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: of year. Uh and mostly because if you write something 507 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: negative then you get called a hater uh and you 508 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: are are are a fire storm and it's awful and ugly, 509 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: but whatever. Um. But I do think it's worth taking 510 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: into account the potential. I don't say downside, right, because 511 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: if you're still talking about Justin Herbert is like the 512 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: QB nine or ten, like that's a pretty good year. Um. 513 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: But I will ask what I will ask you though 514 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: you talk about Joe Lombardi and what it was like 515 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: with that Saints offense and how they were a little 516 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: bit slower paced, do you foresee potentially then a little 517 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,479 Speaker 1: bit of extra love for a guy like Austin Ekeler, 518 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: who you know, we're starting to sort of call Alvin 519 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: Camara light a little bit. Can he pick up that 520 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: slack if they're not necessarily forcing the ball downfield, if 521 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: they're doing different things, does that mean Eckler ends up 522 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: eating a little more? Absolutely, because the type of offensive 523 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: scheme that Lombardi runs, So this is like getting like 524 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: way more into like the excess and nose portion, which 525 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: I dabble in. I don't hunter person understand, but so 526 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: I think if I remember in correctly, Lombardi runs and 527 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: air Hart Perkins system that's slightly different than what Justin 528 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: Herbert has done. And so like when actually flip that 529 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: air coreel system and like Justin and Herbert actually ran 530 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: a air Heart per consistant last year, but in that 531 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: system or in that scheme rather like part of their 532 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: reads or like the first reads is the running back end, 533 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: the tight end, So which all sounds great, and we 534 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: actually saw most of that, Like that's why album Kamara 535 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: was getting targeted like so much, and we saw like 536 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: more at least historically with some of the great tight 537 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: ends that the Saints have produced in the past. We're 538 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: still holding out hope for Adam Troutman, but that at 539 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: least bodes well for a guy like Austin Ekeler, who's 540 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: that's really what we want out of him. I know 541 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: that they're still expecting guys like Larry Rowntree and then 542 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: also let's say Joshua Kelly to kind of play that 543 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: goal line like short yardage role, but Austin Neckler should 544 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: still be the guy eating it up between the twenties, 545 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: still being involved in the passing game, because that's essentially 546 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: what that scheme has been predicated on. So yeah, if 547 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: you're if I like me personally, if I'm less on 548 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, then of course the focus then should shift 549 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: to the running game, because at least at this at 550 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: this time, we know that Austin Neckler is the starter. 551 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: We know that he has been and should continue to 552 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: be a part of the passing game, and they're also 553 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: now part of the scheme that at least focuses on 554 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: that position as being a part of the passing game. 555 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: So I think it all arrows do indicate that Ekeler, 556 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: even if there is a downshift in production from Herbert 557 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: just to start the season, that at least should shift 558 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: over to at least passing production or at least receiving 559 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: production for Austin Neckler to start off this season. I 560 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: love him, Love that the is though I wasn't excited 561 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: enough about Austin Ekeler, right, I mean those workout videos, 562 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean they already had us pumped like Ekeler already. 563 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: So it's just that just more fuel to fire, more 564 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: fuel to the fires, all it is. Another thing you 565 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: wrote about was potential quarterback breakouts, And what I thought 566 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: was interesting was that you included three veteran guys there 567 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: and look to be like you weren't suggesting that all 568 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Kirk Cousins or 569 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, we're gonna be knocking on the door like 570 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: the top five or anything. You kind of had them 571 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: listed to sort of QB two potential breakouts. But when 572 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: you look at that group, is there one that you 573 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: look at and says this guy does have some fringe 574 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: QB one potential if things sort of break right this year. Yeah, 575 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: I think Ryan Fitzpatrick definitely has that because he has 576 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: been that in the past. I think over the last 577 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: two two and a half seasons, we've seen like thirty 578 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: starts from Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's finished as a QB one 579 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: and eleven and those starts, so just about over a 580 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: third of those starts, like he's won up as a 581 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: QB one. So for whether it's been with Tampa, whether 582 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: it's now when he was down in Miami, essentially like 583 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: replacing Tour, getting benched forward to regardless of the game, 584 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: like you know, depends on which game you're talking about, 585 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, throwing touchdowns with like his what face mask, 586 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: getting like ripped to the side, just all those other 587 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: things that get associated with Ryan Fitzpatrick. We've seen him 588 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: ball out like year year over year. And so now 589 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: you move him from a situation where at the end 590 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: of last season, what two of was passing to who 591 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: was a Jackeen, Grant mac Hollins, some of those guys, 592 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: and now you move him to a situation where his 593 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: starting right receiver is Terry McLaurin. He assuming he comes 594 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: back and gets off pop Curtis Samuel's involved. We love 595 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Logan Thomas and then all by the way, you get 596 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, can running back who's actually starting to 597 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: ascend more as a as a running back in Antonio Gibson. 598 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: So it's just you surround him with these playmakers at 599 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: least a decent offensive line, and then now you have 600 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: the makings of what could be a guy that knocks 601 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: on the QB one door on a weekly basis in 602 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. And now I know that after last season 603 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: some folks can be concerned about just the Washington offense 604 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: as a whole, but I think you do at least 605 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: need to contextualize, like what they had to do. I 606 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: almost think about it as the way that uh Matt 607 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: Naggie has been essentially almost like, you know, had his 608 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: hands tied behind his back by the quarterbacks that he's 609 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: had to you know, throw out there on the field. 610 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Same thing with Ron River and Scott Turner, because who 611 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: were they starting last season. It's what Kyle Allen Taylor, Heineke, 612 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: Alex Smith just how can you really run a functional 613 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 1: offense when you're having to rely on guys like that 614 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean all hail to Alex Smith, like 615 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: the late round QB goat, but still it's we can't 616 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: really wind up like converting some of that into fantasy 617 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: production if those of the guys that are slinging the 618 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: ball around the field, so all of their stuff from 619 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: like all of their efficiency metrics from last season, I 620 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: think can essentially be tossed out because they were slower, 621 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean slower in terms of neutral pace and neutral 622 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: passing than they have been in years past, red zone passing, 623 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: offensive efficiency, pretty much every single metric that you would 624 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: look for in an offense took a step back, and 625 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: that was highly correlated to the fact that these are 626 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks they were tritting out. So now if you 627 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: bring in Ryan Fitzpatrick, who while he has he is 628 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: considered to be somewhat of a gun slinger, he's at 629 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: least been more accurate, more efficient as a passer, and 630 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 1: he's been able to at least operate well on the 631 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: red zone. And oh, by the way, it's still for 632 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: regardless of how old he is, the dude is still 633 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: running down the field like a crazy person. I can't 634 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: imagine doing that. I'm thirty eight years old. I'm not 635 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: doing any of that, like what he's doing out there 636 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: in the field, but he still like puts his body 637 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: on the line like whenever he feels like it. So 638 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: it's just that's the type of quarterback that you would 639 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: want in order to activate and enable those pass catchers 640 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: because we're still talking about guys like Diammy Brown as 641 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: possible like draft targets and drafts. I mean, so if 642 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: you're talking about rookie wide receiver threes as guys that 643 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: you can potentially draft, you know you should be in 644 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: on that passer at that point. So that's why at 645 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: least Ryan Fitzpatrick, I think, at the very least, like 646 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: while his floor might not be there given the right matchup, 647 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: and we know that Washington concerned, they're beginning playing against 648 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: Philadelphia twice, Dallas twice, so I can see them as 649 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: at least see if Fitzpatrick is being the guy that 650 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: we turn to as a at the very least a 651 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: streamer with quarterback one upside on a weekly basis. Yeah, No, 652 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: he absolutely has great streaming potential. I mean, I keep 653 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: saying that I don't want him as my weekly starting 654 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: quarterback because I prefer my rollercoasters at amusement parks and 655 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: not roster. But on any given week, you know that 656 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: he's got that potential to go out, you know, like 657 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: any any even week with the right matchup ran fit 658 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: Patrick and go out and put up a thirty point 659 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: fantasy game for you, Like it is very very possible. Um, 660 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: the fear is you put him in there and he 661 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: gives you like one of those twelves or something like that. 662 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: But I mean, there's a reason that we love all 663 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: the pieces of around him. There's a reason that you know, 664 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: we're super excited about Terry McLaurin and and why I 665 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: would love a healthy Curtis Samuel in this offense. And 666 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: even Logan Thomas who last year, uh Logan Thomas had 667 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: felt like for a good portion of the season was 668 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: just out there getting his steps in because he was 669 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: running routes, but they weren't looking in his direction. Now 670 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: they've got a quarterback that can get him the football 671 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: and get him the football downfield, and we know Fits 672 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: is not afraid to throw the ball into traffic, no 673 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: fear about that whatsoever. So that does that that really 674 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: elevates everybody in that group. So I'm excited I don't know. 675 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm really excited kind of about this Washington offense. I 676 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: think they could be really fun to watch this year, 677 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: which is kind of weird to say, especially well, actually 678 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: not that weird considering what they almost They almost toppled 679 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: the Bucks like in the playoffs like last year. Then 680 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: that was with Heineke, So I can get why, like 681 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: folks would be excited about them. And I know that 682 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: some of the detractors might say, well, if we look 683 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: at Washington's defense, we know that's going to at least 684 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: cap like some of that upside. I'm not essentially, I'm 685 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: not really on that train. Because if if we're worried 686 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: about defenses stopping the potential I guess productivity of the offense, 687 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: that means that you're definitely not drafting any of the Steelers, 688 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: You're not drafting any of the Rams, You're not drafting 689 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: any of the Ravens. I mean, there's so many other 690 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: good defenses out there with fantasy assets that we continually 691 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: draft high u every year. So if you're worried about 692 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: the Washington defense really capping the upside of all those guys, 693 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: then you better not being on any of those offenses either. 694 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Because you gotta keep that same energy, bro, and like 695 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: just because it doesn't make any sense why this offense 696 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: would be the one that you want to be out on. Right, No, 697 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 1: that makes plenty of sense. I I I can appreciate that. 698 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: Um So on Tuesday, I asked Michelle Maduke about you 699 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: know who's gonna break out? And I put the questions here, 700 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: you know who's more likely to break out? Daniel Jones 701 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: or Drew Lock. She very grudgingly, she very grudgingly took 702 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. She wasn't happy about it, but that was 703 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: the direction she went. You do have Daniel Jones as 704 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: a potential breakout candidate. You seem slightly more enthusiastic, and 705 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: I just want to hear you make the case for 706 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: why we buy in on Danny Dimes this year. I'm 707 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: trying to squint and see especially I'm trying to squint 708 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: from the bottom of a pile apparently at the Giants practice, 709 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: and see how this could potentially work out. But this 710 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: was before I wrote this, before the Kenny Golladay injury. 711 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: The apparently just complete mishaps that have been happening at practice. 712 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: So apparently can Darius Tony like you still can't seem 713 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: to get on pace with the rest of his quarterbacks whatever. 714 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: But from Daniel Jones specifically back in his rookie season. 715 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: One of the studies that I've done for four before 716 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: at least looks at first year first year efficiency from 717 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback and looks at like how that affects, like 718 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: there at least their efficiency moving forward over the next 719 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: a couple of seasons, and Daniel Jones at like with 720 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: his EPA per play, it did show that he was 721 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: at least above average like for the for his rookie class. 722 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: So at least there at least that gives us something. 723 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: But also with the injuries and stuff that were sustained 724 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: last season two, say Kwan Barkley among the rest of 725 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: the folks, I can understand like why he wound up 726 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: taking a step back, and he took a huge step back. 727 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: He was already at or just below the line in 728 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: terms of touchdown rate, which essentially just how many touchdowns 729 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: to score divided by pass attempts. I think he actually 730 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: dropped from about like four point five four point six 731 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: all the way down to like two and some change. 732 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: So if you want to play the bet that his 733 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: touchdown rate would increase. Also, his rushing comes back, because 734 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: we saw that during the twenty nineteen campaign with the 735 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: pass catchers that they've invested in over the off season. 736 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: At least that at least gives me some optimism for him. 737 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 1: That's purely an analytical take, because everything else sounds awful, 738 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: Like coming out of there, Jason Garrett insisting that you 739 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: know you have to call him coach, and like all 740 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: this other stuff, it just seems like a wild ride, 741 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: like out like out in New Jersey, like out of 742 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: East Rutherford. I don't want anything else to do with it, 743 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: but I will say at least his profile marks him 744 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: as somebody that could wind up having a breakout season. 745 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: All right, that's fair enough. I mean I sort of 746 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: I was in last year. I was like, Okay, this 747 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: is this is gonna be it, this is gonna be 748 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: the year that that it comes true. Obviously it didn't. Um. 749 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: I mean, they've they've given him more in theory, more weapons, 750 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: more help around there, so it's just a matter of 751 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: them being functional. That's yes, you know, I mean, Gola 752 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: Day has hurt you. You talk about Darius Tone, I 753 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: mean even see Kwan Barkley doesn't sound super confident in 754 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: his recovery and his rehab, so it's like it's three 755 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: at least two and a half really important pieces that 756 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 1: aren't there right now. Yeah, and then if they keep 757 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: dog piling on him in practice, then who knows what's 758 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen there? Yeah? All right, I did stay. I 759 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: played who's more likely to break out with Michelle earlier 760 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: this week. I want to keep it rolling with you here, 761 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: So I got uh four either oars here and want 762 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: to get your thoughts. In fact, I went all rookies 763 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: here in this one, so on which ones are the 764 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: most likely to break out? So a quarterback Trey Lance, 765 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: who is the new hotness apparently in San Francisco forty 766 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: Niners camp or Justin Fields? Who's more likely to break out? 767 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: You think? For me it has to be Trey Lance, 768 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: Like I've been. This sounds awful coming for me because 769 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: I live in Ohio, so I have to root for 770 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: a mile house state guys like coming out. But it 771 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: just every time I hear something about Trade Lance, it's 772 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: just nothing but positive. I think he's throwing like one 773 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: pick so far, like when he's been able to run 774 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: with the ones and just the tantalizing thought of having 775 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: a mobile quarterback that can also hit on the deep 776 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: pass in and Kyle Shanahan offense. It's just it's too much, Marcus. 777 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: It really is for me in order to fit, because 778 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: that's what we wanted, right. We wanted when we heard 779 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: that they that the sand when the forty Niners had 780 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: traded up to number three, we wanted a guy like 781 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: either Fields or trade Lance to be that pick. Some 782 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: folks wanted like where everybody was on the Mac Jones train, 783 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: but like you want a mobile quarterback to be a 784 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: part of that offense because we've seen it in the 785 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: past where Jimmy Garoppolo wasn't getting it done. He might 786 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: be at least a league average pocket passer, but that 787 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: doesn't unlock the Shanahan offense. Trade Lance does. Justin Fields 788 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: would have, but we're stuck. We have lands. So it's 789 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: just that's that's what I want. That's the key to 790 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: really for fantasy football as well, because we've known for 791 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: years on end that the Konami code or having a 792 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: rushing quarterback is really what unlocks fantasy production at the 793 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: quarterback position. So if I can get that guy that 794 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: really has that as both the upside as a let's 795 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: see a functional passer, which at the very least we 796 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: can say Lance has. He also has like the rushing skill. 797 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: We know that from the him coming out of North 798 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: Dakota State. We only has the rushing production as well. 799 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, think about the weapons 800 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: around him. An ascending wide receiver in Brandon, a Yuk 801 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: still got Deebo Samuel George Kittle, who even if he's 802 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: not as good as if he's not going to be 803 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: a great receiving weapon because I know some folks are 804 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: down on him as a tight end, as a top 805 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: three tight end, at the very least we know he 806 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: can block, so Trey Lance at all intersects at him, 807 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: all of that production that we hope for the four 808 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: nine intersects at him. It's really just a function of 809 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: when he gets to start, and I'm hoping it's sooner 810 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: rather than later, to be quite honest, mean, if you 811 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: listen to the talk, it does sound like it might 812 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: be sooner rather later. All I know is the forty 813 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: Niners tweeted out a video of Trade Lance throwing a 814 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: deep ball in every forty fan I knew just they 815 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: wish they could go back in time and have him 816 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: throwing that ball to Emmanuel Sanders and oh yeah, that's 817 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: kind of hurt. Yeah, it was like, where was this 818 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago? A big spot, so that 819 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to watch, all right, Travis E. T 820 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: N or Javonte Williams, Then the easy answer has to 821 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 1: be Travis C. T N. All the reports currently coming 822 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: out of camp in Denver has already asserted Melvin Gordon 823 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: as the RB one. From a contractual standpoint, completely understand 824 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: how much they're paying Melvin Gordon that w like nine 825 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: million or something like that, it makes sense that they 826 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: would at least put him as the figurehead for that 827 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: rushing attack. We'll see how that changes throughout the season. 828 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: It could wind up being DeVonta winds up taking over 829 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: towards the middle of the season. Back in this season. 830 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: What have you? But Travis et N. I don't care 831 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: what urban Meyer says about this, a two headed rotation 832 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: between him and Carlos Hide, get on out of here 833 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: with that. I'm somewhat intrigued by James Robinson's like still 834 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,919 Speaker 1: having some sort of role. But if we're already hearing 835 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: about Travis e t N still like already working out 836 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: like as a wide receiver and like boosting those chops 837 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: in the passing game. We already know like what type 838 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: of role and like that breakaway speed he can have 839 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: like as a rusher him also are already having a 840 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: connection with Trevor Lawrence. Sign me up for for all 841 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 1: of that, especially in a division that is I mean 842 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: completely wrecked with either injuries or just like awful situations 843 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: from the Texans to the Cults, the type that means 844 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: just it seems like that whole division is right for 845 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: the taking, and I think the Jaguars are like one 846 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: of those better long shot bets to wind up winning 847 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: the division, especially now with the Carson Winson just like injury. 848 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: It's like, give me Travis e TN for sure in 849 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: that one, all right? Uh Yeah, I like Davontae Williams, 850 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: But I think you're right. I think at least at 851 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: the beginning, e t N has a easier path to 852 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: a bigger role uh in his office. And I'm very 853 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: curious to see what urban Meyer is going to do 854 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: between having e t N having laviska channel who I 855 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: absolutely love, uh, now having Travis Trevor Lawrence there at 856 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback spot, like, he's got a lot of movable, 857 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: interesting pieces. I'm curious to see what he does with them. 858 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm also praying that he doesn't go, you know, Sean 859 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: Payton and start using Tim Tebow in like a like 860 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 1: a Taysom Hill roll or something like that with absolutely 861 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: awful um So I'm sort of keeping my fingers crossed that. 862 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: By the way, if you're Melvin Gordon, you might be 863 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: happy that Javonte Williams is there because in the past 864 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: he keeps ending up in situations with undrafted free agents 865 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: who keep pushing him for his job right, and with 866 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: the Chargers it was Austin Eckler who kept pushing him 867 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: and pushing him he gets the dinner Philip Lindsay who 868 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: was pushing him. So maybe he's happy to have a 869 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 1: drafted rookie instead of the guys you have before. Um 870 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,959 Speaker 1: okay wide receivers Jalen Waddle or Elijah Moore, Elijah More. 871 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: It has to be I say that because I don't 872 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: want Harmon coming after me if I were to say, 873 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: like Waddle after that, But it has to be Liisa 874 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: more Right, we've already heard about the I guess the 875 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: flexibility of the diversity. When it comes to Elijah More, 876 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: they've been lining him up all over the field X 877 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: Z slot doesn't matter, and More has been able to shine, 878 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: whether it's been any of the backup quarterbacks before Zack 879 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: Wilson like finished his holdout, or now that Wilson has 880 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: been a part of the full like when they're running 881 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: with the ones. So from a like ride receiver standpoint, 882 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: I want the guy that has that sort of capability 883 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: to move across the field different formations, operate out of 884 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: different positions, like like as a wide receiver over the 885 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: guy that we know for the most part is going 886 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: to be pigeonholed into the slot already profiles is that 887 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: and also on top of that, dealing with an injury 888 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: like as the I mean, like the rest of the 889 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers down in Miami, to the point where Bert 890 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: Alert heard more about Albert Wilson down in Miami as well. 891 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,479 Speaker 1: So it's just I get why folks are excited about 892 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle in Miami with twa downfield passing being more 893 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: ust of an offense behind that, at least for me, 894 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: I want to see or I want to get behind 895 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: a wide receiver that at least shows that capability of 896 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: being able to play like multiple positions right out of 897 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: the gate, and more has that in space? Are you? 898 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm allowing myself to get excited about the Jets, And 899 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 1: there's a part of me that's like, don't do it 900 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: like we you know, like you know, it's it's it's 901 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: Lucy pulling the football the way right, But like part 902 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: of me is getting excited about about what the Jets 903 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: can be because of Elijah more Right, because of Michael 904 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: carter Um. You know, I don't know if I'm all 905 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: in on Zach Wilson yet, but at least he brings 906 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: something new and he brings kind of a new energy 907 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,959 Speaker 1: and a new moxie to this team. I mean, they 908 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: signed Corey Davis, and I'm curious what he can be. 909 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I may regret this, you know, when we 910 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: get to like October November, But right now I'm sort 911 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: of excited about the Jets. Am I crazy? You know? 912 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: If we're talking about Celan Cole actually being like fantasy 913 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: relevant in the Year of our Lord one, then we 914 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: should at least like have like they pay some attention 915 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: to the Jets, right, but it comes back all the 916 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: way to to Robert Salo, like I have to give 917 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: him credit on almost instantly turning around a program that 918 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: has essentially been the laughing stock of the league at 919 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: the very least the a f C East for the 920 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: past like few seasons, like because he's was it all 921 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: to make a term de gasified, like the entire organization 922 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: like in seemingly a few months. And I have to 923 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: give him credit because we are excited about that passing game, 924 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: whether it's more like Davis like you mentioned, I mean, 925 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: the only guy that we really have concerns about is 926 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: Denzel mims all, but like what we'll see if he 927 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: can make it. We'll see what he can do in 928 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: his second year. But yeah, if you install a Kyle 929 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: Shanahan like system out in like out in New York, 930 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 1: that that could be fun, right, because we've always liked 931 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: all the past catchers associated with the forty Niners and 932 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: even like the Falcons before Shanahan came over from there. 933 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: So it's just why can't they do something similar in 934 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: New York? And from the sound of it, it looks 935 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: like they're doing it, yes or no? Is this the 936 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: Herndon year. Finally, No, I keep holding on and I 937 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: keep holding on. I mean, Christopher Herndon the fourth like 938 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: this was your year, man, but he's already like he's 939 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: already been like sunk on the depth chart as well. 940 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: So it's just it's horror for me to get behind. 941 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: Like we'll always have was that one game, that one 942 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: game like where he flashed and then that's it. That's 943 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: all we did, alright, last the last last one. Uh. 944 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm on Ross st. Brown or Rashad Bateman Bateman. I 945 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: think I have to go with Bateman here, not just 946 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: because I do think that this one's actually like fairly 947 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: close to me, because from what I'm hearing so far, 948 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm in ross St. Brown, at least by most reports, 949 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: is showing like he's going to be their starting slot receiver. 950 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: I think he might have to battle it out with 951 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: Calif Raymond, if I'm not mistaken, who has shown up 952 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: in decent spots in the past, like when he was 953 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 1: still with Tennessee. But with Bateman with what Marky's Brown 954 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: like nursing an injury. Uh, and what Sammy Watkins is 955 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: basically the highlight of camp, which is kind of odd 956 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: to say, we'll actually take that back. Sammy Watkins shows 957 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: up during camp, but then when we come to rely 958 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: on him during that season, it's like, oh, Sammy Watkins 959 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: heading to the blue ten. Okay, all right, that's fine. 960 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: I remember this. But now with Bateman actually had a 961 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 1: chance to talk with Harmon about this one as well, 962 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: because I think where Bateman wins on the field, that's 963 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: where historically Lamar Jackson has been the most inefficient in 964 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: terms of passing. He wins on those timing routes, those 965 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: out routes, those curl routes, those dig routes, and that's 966 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: really where Lamar Jackson struggles. But that's what you need 967 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: from Lamar Jackson because if they wind up falling into 968 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: the situations where it's like third and five, third and 969 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: six or something like that, Lamar Jackson has basically dropped back, 970 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: scanned the field, everybody's covered, and he has to run 971 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: like like like he has like his hair's on fire. 972 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: So Bateman can be that guy that can create that 973 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: separation on those routes and help actually converting some of 974 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: those drives where we're not really relying as much on 975 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson for his legs in order to extend drives. 976 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: So I think overall, Bateman makes Lamar Jackson a more 977 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: efficient passer. We're not going to see him as send 978 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: to you know, Aaron Rodgers heights in terms of passing. 979 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 1: No no, no no, no no no, that's not what we're expecting. 980 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 1: But the very least it makes him a more accurate pastor. 981 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: It makes him a more efficient passer, and that's what 982 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 1: at least sustains some of Lamar Jackson's like current value 983 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 1: like QB four, KB three, like somewhere in there. And 984 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: that's where I think like Bateman can really like shine 985 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: in his rookie season, especially with most of the past 986 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: catchers being injured. There assuming Lamar Jackson gets back to action, 987 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: since I think he's still on the COVID list, I'm 988 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: not mistaken, well if that, but if that's the case, 989 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: then I think he has like the better chance of 990 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: getting that connection with Lamar Jackson as soon as possible, 991 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: and then that's what we'll translate to fantasy production for 992 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: at least from week one on, and we're not waiting 993 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 1: for him to kind of catch up, you know, and 994 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: like wind up being one of those guys that starts 995 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: to shine towards the middle of the season, kind of 996 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 1: like Justin Jefferson from last year. All right, Uh yeah, 997 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 1: I've just been you know, I like bish Bateman's talent. 998 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: I just haven't been able to get excited about him 999 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: because of the situation around him. But you know, I'm 1000 00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: not completely out on him. And I love a mon 1001 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: Ross Brown because one name but our cool name go Trojan's. 1002 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: And you know that that fact that you know, people 1003 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: keep people keep saying the name Cooper Cup when they 1004 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: talk about the money, what kind of what his role 1005 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: could be? Uh? So that that's that? All right? Before 1006 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: let you go, I would like to do some rapid 1007 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: fire kind of fun that not necessarily fantasy related questions. 1008 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: I know that you, on top of being a fantasy 1009 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: writer and and everything you do, uh, you are an 1010 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: accomplished home brewer. Uh. In fact, you sent me some 1011 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 1: of your wares not that long ago, which is we're 1012 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: greatly enjoyed. Thank you again so much for that. Um, 1013 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: what is your favorite style of beer to brew? My 1014 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 1: favorite style of beer to brew is a milk chek 1015 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: i p A. So it's essentially a I p A 1016 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: that uses not really like the bitter type hops but 1017 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: more of those that have like the fretty aroma fretty 1018 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 1: flavor like type hops and then also you throw in 1019 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: a dash of lactose so you get that like you know, 1020 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: that mouth field that goes with basically drinking a Sunday 1021 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: or something like that. And then on top of that, 1022 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: because I like to like essentially the mad Scientists when 1023 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: it comes to making beers, I'll throw in some fruit 1024 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: along with it. I'll actually take like literal like chunks 1025 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: of fruit tossing the keg with it to infuse it 1026 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: with some good flavors, so uh, strawberry, pineapple, I mean 1027 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: anything like that in order to really like bring that 1028 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 1: fruity aroma and also that flavor along with it. So 1029 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: it's actually a version of that that I'm brewing for 1030 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: a competition that I'm that I'm going to here with 1031 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: the next actually it's the week after the Fantasy Football 1032 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: expos Uh, so I'll be doing that like towards the 1033 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 1: back end of this month. And just I just love 1034 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: it because I know that a lot of folks don't 1035 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: like I pas in general. It's considered like one of 1036 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: the you know, if you like I PA s like 1037 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: you're you're a beer snob and all the other stuff. 1038 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: So like, while I do like I P A S, 1039 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: I just like taking the style and making it into 1040 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: something that I prefer to drink, something that's not as bitter, 1041 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: still considered like a technically considered an I PA, but 1042 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: just an offshoot that and like I can turn into 1043 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: something that I prefer that's awesome. Great. I you know what, 1044 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 1: I I don't hate I P A S. I think 1045 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 1: we've just become oversaturated with them. So yeah, trying to 1046 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: branch out. I love a good sour. I'm just saying 1047 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,240 Speaker 1: I've been getting back into those. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, Um, 1048 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: if you're on the grill, uh burgers, hot dogs or chicken, 1049 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: can I take like secret Option four and they're like 1050 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: some throw some ribs or something like that on there. 1051 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm into smoking meat, like so like brisket, pulled pork ribs, 1052 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 1: anything like that. That's what I prefer to do. I've 1053 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: been going into I've been trying to like get more 1054 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: into using like pellet smokers, because like I mentioned earlier, 1055 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm an old man, so I can't like say it 1056 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: like you know, ten twelve hours, like you know, smoking 1057 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: a pork shoulder or something like that, but that's what 1058 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: I prefer doing. I like having those like just like juicy, 1059 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: like you meats, like literally falling off the bone like 1060 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: type of things. So if I had the option, I 1061 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: would just as rather just throw a you know, a 1062 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: few slabs of ribs like out on the smoker and 1063 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: just like wait for those to be done or like 1064 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 1: I said, like brisket or pulled pork something along those lines. Alright, awesome, Okay, 1065 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: now you are you're a resident of Ohio. You're out 1066 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: there in the Midwest, which is the greatest great lake, 1067 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 1: the greatest great lake. It might be a man, I'm 1068 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: probably gonna get like kicked out of Ohio for this, 1069 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: but I'll say, uh, probably like Michigan. I know, you're 1070 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: not like if you're in Ohio, you're not supposed to 1071 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: talk about the state up north, but I mean, like Michigan. 1072 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: Probably for me, that's just because I mean where it's 1073 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: at and it's not too far off a drive, but 1074 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: far enough that you're actually essentially, like I don't know, 1075 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: out in the wilderness, and you can be disconnected from people, 1076 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: especially nowadays, like when we're always going and moving and 1077 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: doing stuff and you know, stuck to our phones being 1078 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: able to disconnect and go. You know, for me, it's 1079 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,799 Speaker 1: about not five ish hour drive. But in order to 1080 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: do something like that, you do actually get a chance 1081 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: to you know, be with your family, talk with other 1082 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: folks like in person versus texting and all that. So 1083 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: that's just my personal preference. We actually just did that, 1084 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: uh early July with my entire family, where we got 1085 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: to go out and uh just be on the lake 1086 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,399 Speaker 1: and you know, to do a little bit of fishing 1087 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: while we're out there with my dad and all that. 1088 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: So it's just that's just my personal preference, all right. 1089 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: Any truth to the rumor that Lake Superior got its 1090 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: name because it has an inferiority complex, I don't know. 1091 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 1: That's a new one for me. I think I might 1092 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 1: have heard that beforehand, but I mean that, I mean 1093 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: that I wouldn't be surprised at all if that was 1094 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: the case. Chris, it's been a great conversation. I've enjoyed it. 1095 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: Um for folks who don't know where to find your stuff? 1096 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: Where where can they? You can find me on Twitter 1097 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: at Chris Allen f f w X. I get a 1098 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,720 Speaker 1: little bit more offseason research to do, so if anybody 1099 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: doesn't know. The f f w X in my name 1100 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: is Fantasy Football Weather. That's how I got into like 1101 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: writing and actually being like on a name in this industry, 1102 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 1: like quote unquote if that's even a thing. But I've 1103 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: been doing most of that like for the past like 1104 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: few seasons. Uh. So I actually have another piece that 1105 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: should be coming out here soon, talking about like more 1106 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,280 Speaker 1: of the trends that I've seen, the data that I've collected. 1107 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: But if you can't find me on or if you 1108 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: don't see me on Twitter, uh, you can find some 1109 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: of my work also at four or four Football Guys 1110 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: then also NBC Sports Edge beautiful. That is awesome. Uh, 1111 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: continue to your success. I wish you all the best 1112 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: and hopefully you and I can can interface in person. 1113 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 1: Uh and can't know Ohio in a couple of weeks, 1114 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: that'd be great, Yes, sir, I'll be there. Drinks on 1115 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 1: me cool sounds awesome all right for us? That is it. 1116 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: We are done. We appreciate you hanging out with the 1117 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show. You know the drill. Tell to 1118 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 1: friends to tell two friends rate review and remember why 1119 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: it even when you can get odd. Be safe, take 1120 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: care of yourselves, get vaccinated, and we'll see you next week. Warm. 1121 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't