1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Dear let you know USA listener. 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Before we start, you should know that if you want 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: to listen to this episode, add free. Just join Plus 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 2: and you can join for as little as seven dollars 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: a month. Joining also gets you behind the scenes access 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: and yes, some cheese me So click the link in 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: the episode description and after you do that, then click play. 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Let's go to the show. 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: Maria, have you been to any Broadway shows or musicals 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 3: this year? 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Well? 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: I love going to Broadway. I go as often as 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: I can with my schedule. Though I did make it 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 2: to the previews of the musical Real Women Have Curves, 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: and I really loved it. 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: I also saw real women have curves. It was great. 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 4: This is your machine. Her name is Catalina. 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 5: She's named after a telenovela villain. 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: Because she's evil. 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: She can cast spells. 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: The last girl who worked her grew up Beard. 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Well, Genie, you and I obviously agree on what we 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: like on Broadway. And by the way, you have been 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: a producer for Latino USA. You now work with Futuro Studios, 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: but you are our resident lover of all things on Broadway. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 6: Yes, and because of that, I wanted us to talk 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 6: about the two Latino Broadway shows that really had a 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 6: moment this year. 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: The two shows Real Women Have. 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: Curves and Buena Vista Social Club. 31 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 6: Real Women Have Curves star Justina Machallo, based on the 32 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 6: play that's about a dress shop in easta La run 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 6: by immigrants. 34 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: And then there was one a. 35 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 6: Vista Social Club, and that's the story about the groundbreaking 36 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 6: Cuban album of the same name from the nineties. 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: It's always a big deal when that happens on Broadway. 38 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: In fact, Genie, you've reported about this before. 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: Yep. 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 6: A few years back, we did a deep dive on 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 6: the history of specifically Latino and Latina musicals on Broadway. 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: Here's a clip from that episode. 43 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 7: A lot of people that you associate with film, like 44 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 7: Lupie Vellas, she actually started on Broadway. 45 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 6: Robert Viagas is an author who spent twenty years as 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 6: co founding managing editor at playbuil dot com. 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 7: She was in a show produced by Ziegfeld called Hop Chow. 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: I Just want to be. 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 7: Even Carmen Miranda, we can associate with the films with 50 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 7: her Big Hatful of Fruit. She actually also started on 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 7: Broadway in nineteen thirty nine in a play called The 52 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 7: streets of Paris. 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: Hi Yi hii, I will come to the. 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: House. 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 7: Rogerson Hart wrote a show called Two Many Girls. Desi 56 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 7: Arnaz was to star in nineteen thirty nine, and he 57 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 7: had a song with a great title, she could shake 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 7: the maracas. 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: She could shakeka. 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 6: We then get West Side Story in nineteen fifty seven, 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 6: which everybody knows, and then in the second half of 62 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 6: the twentieth century, Bye Bye Bertie in nineteen sixty three. 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 5: While I'd be hind my fan and do the tangle, 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 5: I'll be so Spanish it will make you sick. 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 6: Where we're now purposely going overboard on the stereotypes. Instead 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 6: of laughing at the stereotypes, we're going so over the 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 6: top that you can, in a sense laugh with us. 68 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: It's more self aware. 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 8: I'm so exciting because I'm going to go to the 70 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 8: high school performing arts. 71 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 6: Then in the seventies we get a chorus line. A 72 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 6: chorus line has the character Diana Morales, who is an 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 6: actress who is the opposite of the characters we've seen 74 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 6: up until now in Puerto Rican is part of her identity, 75 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 6: but there's nothing stereotypical about her. 76 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 9: Genetic They don't have mom sleds on one. 77 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 6: As a reminder, we're talking strictly musicals. There were Blades, 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 6: of course, and there were a few other musicals, but 79 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 6: the biggest one comes at the end of the nineties 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 6: and it's called The Cape Man I've the roof of 81 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 6: the cast was like a who's who of salsa, like 82 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 6: Marc Anthony was in it, crew and Blades is in it. 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 6: Who was born in Aside from a few smaller shows 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 6: we hit in the Heights in two thousand and eight. 85 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: And seven years later On Your. 86 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 6: Feet, they viewed on Broadway, which brings us to today. 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: That's right, and so even though history was made on 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 2: Broadway this year with two major Latinos shows, right now 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: we only have one of them on Broadway, and that's 90 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: because the musical Real Women have curves down this summer. 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: And well, I gotta say it was a hard pill 92 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 2: to swallow to see the musical go, which. 93 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 6: Feels pretty crazy because in my opinion, it was so timely, 94 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 6: heavily based on immigration, and it's been well received by 95 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 6: the industry. To Studa, Machata was nominated for a Tony 96 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 6: for her performance. The show was also nominated for Best 97 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 6: Music and Lyrics In. 98 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: Case you didn't know, Real Women Have Curves is the 99 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: adaptation of a play written by Josefina Lopez in nineteen ninety. 100 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: The play was then adapted to a movie that start 101 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: America Ferrera in two thousand and two. 102 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: I want you to see me, see this is what 103 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: I look like. 104 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: Kea. 105 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: The main character is Anna. She's the daughter of undocumented immigrants. 106 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: She dreams of being a journalist, but she has to 107 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: juggle those dreams between also helping her family with their business, 108 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: all our seamstresses and during the Broadway show immigration. 109 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: Fear, deportation. It's all a key part of the story. 110 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 6: And it touches on body image, which was huge for me, honestly, 111 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 6: because in the early two thousands when the movie came out, 112 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 6: teenagers and young adults, we're all seeing these like super 113 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 6: skinny Kate Moss, Gwynneth Paltrow women on screen. So with 114 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 6: real women half curves, we had women that looked like us, 115 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 6: like the women and our families. And around twenty years 116 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 6: after the movie, the musical was born. 117 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: So thank you, Genie for all of that context, which 118 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: leads me to the conversation that I'm having today with 119 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: Dakiena Quaroba. She played the main character Anna in the musical. 120 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: By the way, Anna is the one who wants to 121 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 2: be a journalist, so yay for Latina journalists. We're also 122 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: joining this conversation by actress Florencia Quenka. She plays Estella, 123 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: who is anas sister, and she is the owner of 124 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: the dress shop where they all work. 125 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: From. It's Latino Usa. 126 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: I'm Mariano Josa today the rise and fall of Real 127 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: Women Have Curves, the musical and what it tells us 128 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: about Latini Dad on Broadway, Florencia, Finally, Tatiana, Welcome to 129 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: Latino USA. 130 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: Happy to be here. 131 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for coming. You were a little busy 132 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: over the past several months. You had a show every 133 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: single night, so a little tired. 134 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 8: Yes, And it's not just the shows at night, it's 135 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 8: the whole thing that you have to do in order 136 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 8: to be in the show at night. You know, like 137 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 8: we don't talk about enough of all the emotional, spiritual, 138 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 8: mental preparation that we have to go through in order 139 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 8: to do a show at a PM. 140 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: It's crazy too. 141 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: It is the show Real Women Have Curves, and it 142 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: was on Broadway in New York City, which is certainly 143 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 2: in terms of theater huge, and so you are both 144 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: part of the central cast of your Women have Curves 145 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: And after I saw it, I was like, oh my god, 146 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: this is a sensation, and I was like, this show 147 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: is going to take off. It's going to be on 148 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: Broadway forever. 149 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: It is no longer on Broadway. The show closed after 150 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: how long two and a half months. 151 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: So the first time that a Mexican immigrant woman originates 152 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: a character on Broadway that is you, it's your first 153 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: time on Yeah, can you just talk for a moment 154 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: about the rejection part of being an artist and an 155 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: actor in particular, and how you make it through to 156 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: the other side, because I think it kind of has 157 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: pertinence to what Latinos and Latinas are feeling in general 158 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: in the United States of America right now. 159 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,479 Speaker 8: I think it's in general the arts are difficult or challenging. 160 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 8: But for example, talking from my experience as a Mexican 161 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 8: immigrant curvy women, it looks like, oh, it's impossible, And 162 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 8: for a long time I thought like, it's not going 163 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 8: to happen. I am not what Broadway wants. There are 164 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 8: no roles for me, Like when people ask me, like, 165 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 8: what's your dream role? I would say my dream role 166 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 8: is to originate new roles for people who looks like me, 167 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 8: who speak like me. 168 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 4: So the rejection was. 169 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 8: Too hard and I had to come to terms two 170 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 8: one say, Okay, I'm an actor and I am a 171 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 8: creative person, and I'm a writer and I'm a director. 172 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 8: So I'm going to start doing my own thing and 173 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 8: people are gonna look at me because I do good 174 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 8: stuff and I'm honest and it comes from the heart. 175 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 4: And I think that helped me, like to gain. 176 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 8: Like ownership of my own story and to know that 177 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 8: my goal in life and what I really want to 178 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 8: keep doing is like tell my stories and represent my 179 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 8: people and just like showing to the people that we 180 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 8: Latinos are here, our stories matter so much and we 181 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 8: deserve to be in the spotlight on a Broadway stage, 182 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 8: center stage. And I think that we got to do that, 183 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 8: even if it was for three months, it has an impact. 184 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: It really had an impact. 185 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think that was also the like what I 186 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 5: was the most proud of, like when we finished, was 187 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 5: that no matter how long it ran or whatever, we 188 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 5: proved that people who look like us and who sound 189 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 5: like you and who identify in the spaces that we 190 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 5: do can lead Broadway shows and do it really, really 191 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: eff and well. 192 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 8: And I think, like going back to the rejection, and 193 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 8: I think what has helped us in general, it's the 194 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 8: community we have each other and that feels so powerful 195 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 8: because we're gonna be rejected our whole. 196 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Life coming up on Latino USA. 197 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 8: Let's be honest, Latina's love to talk about bodies. 198 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: You know, not to prop your bodies, right. 199 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,119 Speaker 8: So I was like, my mom is gonna say, like, Florencia, 200 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 8: I can't believe that you're doing this with that body. 201 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: That's after the break, stay with us, not by yes, hey, 202 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: we're back. And before the break, we were speaking with 203 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: Florentia Quenca and Tatiana Cordova from the musical Broadway adaptation 204 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: of Real Women Have Curves. We talked about one of 205 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: the big themes of the show, which is body image. 206 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: We're going to dig into how body liberation played along 207 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: another big topic of the show, a central topic, which 208 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 2: is immigrants and their rights and freedom. There are multiple 209 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: themes of the show. One of them is about body image. 210 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: We're talking about curvy women. 211 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: Is Mohas. 212 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: Mohad on you know, so there's a moment which is adorable, 213 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: right when you all strip down to your Can you 214 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: talk a little. 215 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Bit about what that felt like in the theater, Well. 216 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 5: I think that just in general, when you watch anybody 217 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 5: be so authentic and like live so truthfully in their 218 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 5: joy and in themselves, like it's infectious, Like it's something 219 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: that you immediately gravitate, like they did their body just 220 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 5: like react. 221 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: You know. 222 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 5: There were people who would come to us at stage 223 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 5: who and be like I wanted to take my shirt off, 224 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 5: Like I was ready to make my shirt off like 225 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 5: I was in a Beatles. 226 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Concerts, like a rocky horror Yeah. 227 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 228 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 5: And I think another thing about that moment is I 229 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 5: think a lot of people assume that it became an 230 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 5: easy thing for us to do or wow, like you're 231 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 5: so confident, like that's so awesome that you. 232 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 9: Like I don't care that you don't care. 233 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 5: And I was able to do that, But it really 234 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 5: every day was for each of us, Like some days, yeah, 235 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 5: because some days we're on our period and I'm like 236 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 5: I don't want to take off like so I think 237 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: that that was also something that we were discovering as 238 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 5: we were doing it is that like doing that every 239 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 5: night was always like an active choice to like, yeah 240 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 5: and it together. 241 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel as women. I mean, I have always 242 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 4: struggled with my buddy image and I'm going to keep struggling, 243 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: Like that's the reality. 244 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 8: And some days I'm gonna feel fantastic and some days 245 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 8: I'm gonna be sad about it. 246 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: But it really helped us. 247 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: Were you, like, no, was Familia cat see of. 248 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 8: Course, let's honest. Latina's love to talk about bodies. 249 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 4: You know, not to putp your bodies, right. So I 250 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 4: was like, my mom. 251 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 8: Is gonna say, like Florencia, I can't believe that you're 252 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 8: doing this with that body. And I remember, like I 253 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 8: felt my heart like bumping, and I was like, you 254 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 8: know what, this is like liberating me from the trauma 255 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 8: from everything that sometimes people have said about my body 256 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 8: without me asking for her, you know. Every night it 257 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 8: was a moment of liberation, like just we're not just 258 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 8: stripping down the clothes, It's more about what we're stripping 259 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 8: down spiritually, you know, mentally. 260 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: So you bring up the question of feeling free in 261 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: the show, but the freedom that you're talking about and 262 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: that you're experiencing the fact that I knew that while 263 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: I was watching you on Broadway, people were being taken. 264 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: And so the theme of ownership, freedom in your own 265 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: body was meeting snack dab against We're not free if 266 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: we are immigrants, And I wonder what that was like 267 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: to be literally living that schism every single day. 268 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: Can you talk about that juxtaposition? 269 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: You don't? 270 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: You want to? 271 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 8: Wait? 272 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: I actually wanted what's going on for you? 273 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: I think. 274 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 8: It's something that hurts me so much, and that's why 275 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 8: I struggle, like just because it's what we are leaving. 276 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: And it was crazy to leave our dreams. 277 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 8: While portraying nightmares right Like, we were doing a show 278 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 8: and the first goal that I have is with missus, 279 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 8: right and she says the other factory that I was 280 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 8: working with ed got rated last night, and I immediately 281 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 8: feel like, oh, like punch, you know, And I was like, oh, yes, 282 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 8: this is happening right now. 283 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: And I feel. 284 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 8: So proud that we were portraying a real community on 285 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 8: that stage with dignity and in a respectful way, and 286 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 8: we were showing the audience who we really are. But 287 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 8: it was so hard to know that literally we had 288 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 8: the scene when the raids are Afida and we're going. 289 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: Through that trauma. 290 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 8: And because also the audience that they would come, Like 291 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 8: I would talk to people on the stage door and 292 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 8: they are like, I'm undocumented, Like this is the first 293 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 8: time that I seen. 294 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: My story on a Broadway stage. 295 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 8: You know. 296 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it was so crazy, how like it wasn't 297 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 5: even mirroring. It was just like literally copy and pasting 298 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 5: what was happening in real life. 299 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot. And so you shared this with 300 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: your followers on Instagram at the time at. 301 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 5: Inner Mission, I was in here on Instagram and seeing 302 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 5: all the horrible things that were happening, and then I 303 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: went out to do a scene that is a depiction 304 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 5: of exactly that these things that are happening affect all 305 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 5: of us in the show. 306 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 9: They affect our families. 307 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 5: This is what our contribution was to the community. And 308 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: like our version of resistance and our version of protest 309 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 5: was doing this show. And I think it really made 310 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 5: everything feel that much more you. 311 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 8: Know, important, important and relevant, and I think, like, yes, 312 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 8: acknowledging our privilege. Yeah, we just finished one very traumatic 313 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 8: scene in Act one, and today it felt really heavy. 314 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 8: I would have people who would text me and say 315 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 8: flow don't talk about that, Like with your legal status, 316 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 8: it's not good that you talk about those things. I'm 317 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 8: not a citizen yet, but it's for me feels crazy 318 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 8: to not talk about those topics because that's who I am, 319 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 8: and that's who I'm portraying, and that's my mission in 320 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 8: this country. 321 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: And when they want to silence. 322 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 8: Us, we need to be more loud, louder than ever. 323 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Yes, hey, we're back. 324 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: We're going to get right back into the conversation with 325 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: Florencia Cuenca and Tatiana Cordova from the musical Real Women 326 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: Have Curves, all right, So I'd actually loved to talk 327 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: about the issue of mental health of being an actor 328 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: on Broadway, being an actor in a musical on Broadway, 329 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: doing eight shows every week, and I'm just wondering, what 330 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: kind of toll does that take on you, both mentally 331 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: and physically, and how do you deal with that? 332 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 8: Oh my god, I think it's crazy and nothing prepares 333 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 8: you for that, like nothing. 334 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 9: I have to say. She did every single show. 335 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 8: And I think it's because of my husband, to be honest, 336 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 8: because he made so much pace for me mentally, emotionally. 337 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 8: But it's a thing that you have to hydrate all 338 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 8: the time, like drink water like crazy, and ulti meditation, 339 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 8: even if it's like a five minute power of meditation. 340 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 8: It helps me to root myself because it's really challenging 341 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 8: to do a Broadway show with these kind of themes. 342 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 8: Your buddy feels in the tension and the trauma is 343 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 8: all the time there. 344 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: I was doing. 345 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 5: Terrible mentally, to be completely honest, when I would get 346 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 5: home and have, you know, this hour hour and a 347 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 5: half before we need to go to bed, and in 348 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 5: that hour and a half, I would just be sitting 349 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 5: on my kitchen floor sobbing, scream cry, like having full 350 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: on attacks. But then I'm like, Okay, gotta go to 351 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 5: bed because I'm living the dream. So it's fine, But 352 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 5: that would also be the only time in the day 353 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 5: where I could let anything, release anything. I always knew 354 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 5: I was gonna be on Broadway one day, but I 355 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: thought I would be swaying on the on top of it. 356 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 5: I was working at JA crew folding close and then 357 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 5: now I have to lead a Broadway show and be 358 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 5: like the face of a new show that is paving 359 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 5: ways for people. 360 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 9: And it was a lot, a lot a lot, a 361 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 9: lot of pressure that I. 362 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 5: Still don't think I fully, like mentally or physically like 363 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 5: recovered from any of that trauma and stress, Like I 364 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 5: still feel like this all the time. And honestly, a 365 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 5: lot of the times where I felt like I could 366 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 5: like relax a little bit was like our time with 367 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 5: the other women. 368 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 9: If it wasn't for the cast that we had, no, 369 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 9: I don't know if. I don't know if we would 370 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 9: have made it. I don't know if we would have survived. 371 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit about the fall. I 372 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: think a lot of people were surprised when they found 373 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: out that. 374 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: Real women have curves. The musical was going to close 375 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: on Broadway. 376 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: And first of all, let's just talk personally, like, how 377 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: are you doing now? 378 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: The both of you? 379 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 4: I don't know. 380 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 5: I mean, it was a whirlwind of a process, a 381 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: very long eight nine months that we were all working 382 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 5: so so so so so hard, and we all grew 383 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 5: so so close and then pufn, it just stopped. And 384 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 5: I think that's something that like bonds us even further, 385 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 5: is that we made history and changed things in a 386 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 5: big way together. And I think that it's going to 387 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 5: take me a minute to really like process that, and. 388 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 8: I think like all of us, we lived together so 389 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 8: many firsts. Yeah right, it was like all of our 390 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 8: Broadway debut, our first time in our original Broadway cast album, 391 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 8: Your first Time, and Tony is like all those things 392 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 8: that you put on your vision board. 393 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 4: It was like ultimately happening. 394 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 8: I think like we were like in a roller coaster. 395 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 1: I love it, I hate it. 396 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 8: You know all those things and it's like, Okay, out 397 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 8: of the roller coaster and you feel like, WHOA. 398 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 9: Like vertical happen. 399 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 8: So I feel like, right now we're all like okay, 400 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 8: going back to kind of real life. 401 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 2: So I'm just wondering, like, what's your take on what happened? 402 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: Why did your show close when it seemed like everyone 403 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: was rooting for you. 404 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 8: We have so many theories, so we have a lot 405 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 8: of theories. 406 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 5: I think that as soon as there was two Latin 407 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 5: shows in a season, which is historical and amazing, they're 408 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 5: pitted against each other by Broadway as a whole. I 409 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 5: think it's subconscious a lot of the time, but people 410 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 5: are like, oh, two Latin shows, let's compare them when 411 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: they could not be more different. 412 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: So there was a vibe out there that you were 413 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: picking up, which was comparing women have curves with social club. 414 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 9: I think that's bound to happen. 415 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: The way, because. 416 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 5: That's it which sucks, and which is a big reason 417 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 5: why I think that this thing needs to keep happening 418 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 5: so people see that both can exist, because the Latin 419 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: community is so vast. 420 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 9: Whenevery Start came. 421 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 5: First and it really took off, and people loved it 422 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 5: rightfully so because it's beautiful. And then we were the 423 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 5: last entry of the season and we were kind of 424 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 5: like the little show that could, and people I think 425 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 5: took a chance on. 426 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 9: Us a little too late. New York is for. 427 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 5: Tourists, and as a tourist with kids or whatever, are 428 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 5: you going to go see the big dance show with 429 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 5: beautiful costumes and whatever, or the show besides Justina with 430 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 5: a bunch of nobodies about immigrants, you know what I mean. 431 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: It's like it's a no brainer for some people. And 432 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 5: once people saw it, that's what was a. 433 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 9: Little hard for us. They fell head over heels in 434 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 9: love with it. 435 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: They would come again and again and again we knew 436 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 5: what we had. 437 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 8: I think also, the way Broadway has been working for 438 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 8: so long, it it's to change you need to learn 439 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 8: how to sell a Latinos show because this is the 440 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 8: conversation that sometimes happens in theater. But it's for everyone. Yes, 441 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 8: of course it's for everyone, but it's a show about Latinos. 442 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 8: Why are you so scared to say that? You have 443 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 8: to be proud and say it's a Mexican family and 444 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 8: in specificity comes the universal of it all. 445 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: So how are you processing and what are the lessons 446 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 2: that you've learned that you actually maybe think that someone 447 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: listening should hear. 448 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 8: I feel like the biggest lesson of it all is like, oh, 449 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 8: there's so much work to be done, but there's a 450 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 8: whole thing that we as a community need to work 451 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 8: together to keep things moving. Because it's so bittersweet what 452 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 8: happened with real women have curves, amazing beautiful things, but 453 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 8: also that we closed so early in our run, especially 454 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 8: the times we are leaving right now. 455 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 4: I'm like this show was very needed. 456 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like this sense of responsibility and a 457 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 5: little bit of pressure to continue the work. There were 458 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 5: so many people every single day, every single show that 459 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 5: came up to us and told us how much we 460 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 5: reaffirmed that they are not delusional for having the dreams 461 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 5: that they do. 462 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 9: And I don't want. 463 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 5: The fact that we closed to discourage people again and say, oh, well, 464 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 5: you know they closed. So even if we get our moment, 465 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: it's not going to last. I want to prove that 466 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 5: wrong so bad and we are going to and I 467 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 5: have no doubt about that. And I just really want 468 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 5: to make sure that we are continuing to prove that 469 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 5: we deserve a spot here. 470 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 8: Not just oh we want the curb just for the 471 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 8: Curby show. 472 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: No, what you mean your other show? 473 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: So yeah, Florencia Tatiana, thank you so much for joining 474 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: me on Latino USA. 475 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: Yes, may it not. 476 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: Be the last time. No, it's gonna be another show. 477 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: There's gonna be another show. This episode was produced by 478 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: Ginni Montalbo. It was edited by Andrea Lopez Cruzado. 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