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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in now number three Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out

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Speaker 1: with us. We roll through the day. Craziness is aiminess,

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Speaker 1: wackiness on Capitol Hill. I saw this story a little

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Speaker 1: bit earlier. We bring in now Tim Burchett, congressman from Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to have to walk us through everything

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Speaker 1: that happened here. But you are my understanding, thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us.

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Speaker 2: Congressman.

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Speaker 1: My understanding is you are standing in the hallway of

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Speaker 1: the Capitol there doing an interview and former Speaker Kevin

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Speaker 1: McCarthy comes by and basically hits you right in the

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Speaker 1: kidney with his elbow. You think it was intentional? Tell

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Speaker 1: us what happened? This is a crazy story.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you for having me on the show. Big fan,

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Speaker 3: Big fans, I know you live in Nashville. Did you

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Speaker 3: ever gets Knockville?

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Speaker 2: Holler at me, brother, Hey, I'm going to be up

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Speaker 2: there at the carsman.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be up there this weekend for the Georgia

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Speaker 1: Tennessee game, which I was more excited about before the

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Speaker 1: Missouri Tennessee game. Congratulations to missou out there. But I'll

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Speaker 1: be up this weekend, so.

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Speaker 3: Maybe i'll run into you, brother. But anyway, No, I

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Speaker 3: was standing in the hallway outside of our conference meeting,

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Speaker 3: which is what we call a caucus in Tennessee, but

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Speaker 3: up here in DC it's called a conference, and I

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Speaker 3: was doing a little interview interview with a lady named

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Speaker 3: Claudia as she's from NPR. She's actually I haven't even

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Speaker 3: tweeted about it. She put it out and I guess

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Speaker 3: it went viral and everybody saw it. And he was

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Speaker 3: asking me about the budget situation. And at that time,

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Speaker 3: I get this sharp pain in my kidneys and I link,

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Speaker 3: I fall forward towards her, and she said, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: I've never seen I've never ever seen that happen before.

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Speaker 3: And I turned around and it was that had come

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Speaker 3: McCarthy walking by me, and then I hollered at him,

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Speaker 3: and he like he is, he gutless as he is.

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Speaker 3: He had his security details. I'm not sure why he

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Speaker 3: has a security detail. He's no longer the speaker, and

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Speaker 3: in tow with him, and he kind of turns and

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Speaker 3: doesn't acknowledge me, and I so hey, call factor him

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Speaker 3: and I was like, well, you know, what the heck

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Speaker 3: are you doing? And he just and he said, I

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Speaker 3: didn't do anything. I don't know what you're talking about,

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Speaker 3: you know, And I see you do. He just hit

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Speaker 3: me in the in the in the kidney, and then

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Speaker 3: he he called me a liar. But then later in

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Speaker 3: the press he said, well, it was a crowded hall

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Speaker 3: and I bumped into him, which is not true. It's

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Speaker 3: a small hall, but there wasn't anybody and no other

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Speaker 3: very small lady. And and now he's he's gone back

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Speaker 3: and said that he didn't you know, first he said

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Speaker 3: just bumped into him, and then you know, and you

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Speaker 3: know the rest of the stories. His anger got the

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Speaker 3: best of him. And I think it really really shows

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Speaker 3: his values. And then the reason he should not be

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Speaker 3: in the speaker of the House. He's the third man

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Speaker 3: in line to be president of the United States and

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Speaker 3: I and people are asking if I'm going to bring

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Speaker 3: an ethics charge against him, and other people are talking

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Speaker 3: about it, and I'm you know, I'm up.

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Speaker 4: Here to govern.

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Speaker 3: I'm not here to get into a fight. But honestly,

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Speaker 3: I guess people in southern California that's the way they

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Speaker 3: handle things. They come up behind you and sucker punches.

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Speaker 3: You know. In Tennessee, they look you in the eye

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Speaker 3: if they want to fight you, and they'll tell you

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Speaker 3: to your face. And and I think it's just a

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Speaker 3: difference in values. And I think I think it's a

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Speaker 3: it really is a sad asterisk on his life though,

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Speaker 3: on his career in Congress that he's going.

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Speaker 1: To go out like so you think you think he

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Speaker 1: and his kid in your kidney from behind because he's

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Speaker 1: mad that you didn't support him as speaker, Like you

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Speaker 1: think that that's what that's what motivated this in your mind.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine there's anything else that you would think

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Speaker 3: There's four hundred and thirty five of us only was

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Speaker 3: me out in the CNN interview where he said, you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, of course he did it on purpose, there's

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Speaker 3: no other reason. But you know, I'm not like I said,

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Speaker 3: I didn't tweet about it. I didn't run out to

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Speaker 3: lady from actually the lady Claudia if you'll look her

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Speaker 3: name up, Claudia. I can't remember her last name, but

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Speaker 3: you can follow her on x She she's the one

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Speaker 5: All right, Well, we'll speak, I mean convers and thanks

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Speaker 5: for being here. I'm wondering if we could just ask

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Speaker 5: your your opinion of how it's going with the new

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Speaker 2: So far, there's talk.

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Speaker 5: About the possibility of a government shutdown again and the

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Speaker 2: Is the new speaker better than the old speaker?

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Speaker 5: I assume because the new speaker hasn't elbowed you and

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Speaker 5: the ribs recently, probably is a yes for you.

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Speaker 3: He's a good man. And the lady's name is you

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Speaker 3: can get it if you want to follow her on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: Cg R I S A l E. S. C. Griselles.

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Speaker 3: She's the one who tweeted about it, and it's very

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Speaker 3: accurate what she says. No, you know, here, here's the deal. Speaker.

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Speaker 3: Johnson's had the budget for two weeks. Kevin McCarthy's had

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Speaker 3: it since January, and he told he chose to jam

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Speaker 3: us by taking the entire month of August off. And

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Speaker 3: get this, the end of the fiscal year is September thirtieth.

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Speaker 3: And then we took off the first two weeks in September.

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Speaker 3: Under Pelosi, we always took off the month of August.

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Speaker 3: It was his constituent work at home, people going their vacations,

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Speaker 3: what have you. I work more when I'm home than

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Speaker 3: Johnson's got two weeks to decide to do this thing.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of between a rock and hard place. And

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Speaker 3: continued resolutions are ce ours, as they call them. What

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Speaker 3: wrong because what they do is you don't have budget

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Speaker 3: Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and we just and we just

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Speaker 3: up having to do because we can't get any support

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Speaker 3: need to make some major cuts. We need to fund Israel,

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Speaker 3: do any of that. As a matter of fact, some

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Speaker 3: of the money will actually get to Hama that's in

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Speaker 3: this budget. And so and I'll be voting No.

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Speaker 1: Have you been astounded to see how many Democrats have

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Speaker 1: come out and refused to condemn Hamas and in fact

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Speaker 3: No, Because it's coming right out of our colleges and

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Speaker 3: universities right now, and it's been coming out for years,

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Speaker 3: This undermining of our country, this Marxist mentality. My friend

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Speaker 3: a Marxist. Well, she was educated in public in a

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Speaker 3: public school. Her college and her degree was get this

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Speaker 3: product of that. And that's what we're doing. We love

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Speaker 3: to give our money to our alma maters, mine's University

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Speaker 3: of Tennessee, but you know, we need to put a

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Speaker 3: string on every dollar that we give them because they

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Speaker 3: are just mass producing. Our colleges and universities are mass

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Speaker 3: producing people with a Marxist mentality that literally hate our country,

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Speaker 3: hate our way alive, and and and you know, we

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Speaker 3: cannot continue down this path. We are going to we

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Speaker 3: are going to implode from it'll it'll happen from the inside.

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Speaker 3: And no, I'm not surprised. I'm surprised it's not worse.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Black Lives Matters, you know, University of Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: and it turns out they stole most of the money

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Speaker 3: Black Lives Matters did. And you know, it's just it

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Speaker 3: just goes down the line.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: You cannot you cannot do this. We cannot continue down

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Speaker 3: this path. So I'm I'm, I'm. It's a it's a

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Speaker 3: battle that has been waging for years and years, yet

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Speaker 3: we are just we're just now waking up to it.

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Speaker 5: Congress Man, appreciate you being here with us, and uh,

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Speaker 5: good luck to you, sir. And you know, make sure

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Speaker 5: you see him sneaking up behind you next time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I'm you know, I'm used to that,

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Speaker 3: to up here, but I am now.

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Speaker 2: So someone who's going to go elbow on you, sir,

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Speaker 2: sweep the leg.

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Speaker 3: And give me what they call it Tennessee dog whooping,

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Speaker 3: and that would be that would take you.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, Thank you for being Widni's appreciated. All right,

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Speaker 5: So at least we got to the bottom of that

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Speaker 5: and we got to the budget a little bit clay,

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Speaker 5: so we'll continue to Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, go balls up there in Tennessee. Big weekend

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Speaker 1: Buck Georgia taking on Tennessee. And by the way, I

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Speaker 1: think we have a clip that was on the House side.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to play right now?

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Speaker 1: We have a clip of what also happened on the

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Speaker 1: Senate side.

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Speaker 2: I say we hold it.

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Speaker 5: I say we hold it because a United States Senator

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Speaker 5: challenged a witness to the Senate hearing to a fight

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Speaker 5: in the Senate chamber.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that also just said. So things are getting a

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Speaker 2: little rowdy.

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Speaker 5: People are watching a lot of MMA these days, or

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Speaker 5: something get a little rowdy on Capitol Hill. We will

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Speaker 5: bring you the latest on this one. I honestly, it

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Speaker 5: was like a little hard to believe when you watched

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Speaker 5: this video when you see this play out, But it

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Speaker 5: certainly is one of those moments where you realize, you know,

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Speaker 5: I think people need to take a take a.

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Speaker 2: Little step back, maybe calm down.

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Speaker 5: So I mentioned that in New York State Governor hokel

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Speaker 5: Okay, I mean she says incitement to violence, which now

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem that they run into is no one

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Speaker 2: This is what just went down in the Senate. This

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Speaker 7: Listen, rtunds like he's self made. What a clown, fraud,

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Speaker 7: always has been.

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Speaker 2: Always will be.

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Speaker 7: Quit the tough guy act and these Senate hearings. You

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Speaker 7: know where to find me any place, any time, cowboy. Sorry,

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Speaker 7: this is a time. This is a place you want

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Speaker 7: to run your mouth. We can be too consenting adults.

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Speaker 7: If we can finish it here, Okay, that's fine, perfect

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Speaker 2: You stand you up on them.

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Speaker 6: Stop it?

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Speaker 2: No, sit down?

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Speaker 7: Okay, you know you're United States.

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Speaker 5: Can I just say Communist Bernie Sanders was the adult

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

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Speaker 5: The guy stood up, pulled off his wedding ring, or

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Speaker 2: Chan you know in that Senate hearing chamber.

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Speaker 5: You know, look, the way to do this would be

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Speaker 2: That's a bad idea. So uh, this was the.

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Speaker 5: He was a union by the way, just so everyone

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Speaker 2: It would have been it would have been a brawl. Uh,

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Speaker 1: But he was reading a tweet from a union executive

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Speaker 2: Is this a place like? Let's uh, let's go at

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous right, theatrical Bernie Sanders sitting there saying you're a

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. This is an awful story.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of awful stories, Buck that I think

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Speaker 1: She was a true freshman here, eighteen years old, and

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Speaker 1: He was charged with aggravated assault last spring after he

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Speaker 1: of this. But as someone with three young boys, I

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Speaker 1: cannot imagine Buck getting a phone call when I send

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Speaker 1: my kid off to college one day that they are

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Speaker 1: out in a park on a sunny day and get

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Speaker 1: shot in the head because of the failure of the

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Speaker 1: adults in my city to protect all of the citizens there.

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Speaker 1: And this is emblematic of what is happening all over

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Speaker 1: the country. This guy should have either been in a

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Speaker 1: mental institution with no ability to harm anyone, or they

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Speaker 1: should have prosecuted him to the full extent of the

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Speaker 1: law and put him behind bars. When he fired into

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Speaker 1: a car full of children. We knew he was a threat.

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Speaker 1: We knew he was going to victimize someone, and this

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Speaker 1: innocent girl is the victim. And it's happening all over

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Speaker 1: the country. And I'm just fed up and sick of it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't understand how these das get out of

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Speaker 1: bed in the morning. I honestly don't. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: able to sleep at night if I was involved in

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Speaker 1: this case.

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Speaker 5: They'll all just say, oh, but it's the system and

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Speaker 5: we can't do anything about it, although that's not true. As

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Speaker 5: we know, they make all kinds of determinations. In fact,

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Speaker 5: in some ways, the most power that individuals have in

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Speaker 5: government anywhere, with very little oversight of it, is prosecutorial

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Speaker 5: Prosecutorial discretion is effectively up to the individuals or the

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Speaker 5: office in whatever the jurisdiction may be, and they can

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Speaker 5: make determinations about passing entirely on something or making somebody

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Speaker 5: pay to the fullest extent of the law. And in

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Speaker 5: this case, if you have someone who is not mentally

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Speaker 5: well enough to stand trial, but who has done something

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Speaker 5: that is very violent that threatened children, I'm shooting a

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Speaker 5: gun into a car that has children is really the

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Speaker 5: definition of a public safety risk, right, I mean, how

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Speaker 5: much more of a public safety risk could a person

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Speaker 5: be than one who would do something like that, And

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Speaker 5: that there wouldn't be an incarceration involved with somebody who

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Speaker 5: would do that just seems unthinkable. So that story a

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Speaker 5: total failure of the system, a total tragedy for that

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Speaker 5: young young woman who lost their life to someone who

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Speaker 5: is I mean, clearly, I'm sure the guy is deeply

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Speaker 5: mentally ill, but he's a danger to the public and

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Speaker 5: needs to be off the streets.

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Speaker 2: Should not have the freedom to hurt more people.

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Speaker 5: I think now they'll do something about it, but they

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Speaker 5: should have done something before, I think, Claire, there's also

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Speaker 5: that very very troubling story leve was in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 5: YEP of a seventeen year old who was viciously beaten

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Speaker 5: to death by fifteen other high schoolers. And the individual

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Speaker 5: who was beaten to death is was white. The individuals

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Speaker 5: who were kicking him and stomped him until he was dead.

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Speaker 5: I believe we're all African American and the news media

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Speaker 5: is treating this story as a local crime story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, here's a couple of details about it. This is

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Speaker 1: from his father's website. He said, after holding my son's

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Speaker 1: hand in the hospital while on life support for two

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Speaker 1: days and nights and watch his life leave his body

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Speaker 1: and being shocked by the immensity and horror of my

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Speaker 1: beloved boy just being beaten to death, I felt a

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Speaker 1: mission to act that moved me to my core. His father,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Lewis Senior Jonathan Lewis Junior, the seventeen year old

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Speaker 1: who was beaten to death, says Jonathan was a hero

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Speaker 1: who tried to help a smaller child who was being bullied,

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Speaker 1: and fifteen people attacked him in cowardly violence, and our

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Speaker 1: beloved son was beaten to death. This is on video,

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Speaker 1: and so if you have not seen this, you can

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Speaker 1: see a video of these fifteen kids beating this kid

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Speaker 1: to death. And as Buck mentioned, white kid in Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas beaten to death by a gang of fifteen black

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Speaker 1: kids should never happen, that anything like this occurs with

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Speaker 1: any racial group involved at all. You may not have

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Speaker 1: heard anything at all about this case. If fifteen white

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Speaker 1: kids had been a black kid to death, it would

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Speaker 1: be the number one story in America four months.

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Speaker 5: Oh, there would be I mean, there would be neighbor

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Speaker 5: there be riots, probably neighborhoods that would probably be partially

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Speaker 5: on fire. I mean it would be treated as evidence

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Speaker 5: that one incident would be treated as evidence of the

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Speaker 5: the horrific racism of our society and on all the

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Speaker 5: rest of it. In this case, I would want to know,

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Speaker 5: first of all, how many of these individuals could be

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Speaker 5: charged as adults, because anyone who is even close should

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Speaker 5: be charged as as an adult based on this video.

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Speaker 5: I think that it depends where you are state wise.

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Speaker 5: For gang, you know, what would be considered gang violence,

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Speaker 5: not as in your in a gang, but you're part

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Speaker 5: of a gang that is that is engaging in violence

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Speaker 5: like this, you know, meaning it's not like an official gang,

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Speaker 5: but it's that you're part of them, of effectively mob violence,

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Speaker 5: you could say.

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Speaker 2: And then also I'm I'm a.

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Speaker 5: Believer in people that that that are violent with somebody

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Speaker 5: who is clearly on the ground and incapable of any

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Speaker 5: form of self defense, there should be very severe enhancements

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Speaker 5: to the penalty here. You know, if you punch someone

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Speaker 5: they fall down and they go into a coma, that's

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Speaker 5: bad and you might be charged with manslaughter. If you

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Speaker 5: punch someone they fall down, then you stomp on their

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Speaker 5: head until they're dead, you should spend the rest of

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Speaker 5: your life in prison.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, in a one on one fight, it's

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Speaker 1: awful and I hate to hear anytime it happens when

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Speaker 1: two kids get into a fistfight. But it does happen,

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Speaker 1: somebody falls, they hit their head, there are consequences.

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Speaker 2: That's a one on one fight.

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Speaker 1: If fifteen kids are as a mob attacking one defenseless person,

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Speaker 1: who again, when you're on the ground and people are

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Speaker 1: stomping on you, these kids should be prosecuted the full

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Speaker 1: six in the law, and they should be treated as adults.

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Speaker 1: In the fact, by the way, this supposedly happened on

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Speaker 1: November first, there have been no charges filed yet. So

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Speaker 1: what is going on in Las Vegas that not to

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Speaker 1: my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong staff, But this

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Speaker 1: morning when I was doing my research, no one had

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Speaker 1: been charged.

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Speaker 2: In this case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Also it's on video. Was there any bias crime involved here?

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Speaker 5: Or is there an investigation of that? Are they looking

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Speaker 5: into whether that played a role in this?

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Speaker 2: I would assume that. I just don't know.

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Speaker 1: How how have you not charged? To my knowledge, no

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Speaker 1: one has been charged at all in this case.

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Speaker 5: It's on video. I mean, they're gonna say, I'm sure

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Speaker 5: that they're juveniles. Probably then they're going to say, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's not clear which woman I know? I know, how

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Speaker 5: how would a soros Da play this? That's how you

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Speaker 5: can think through this? What wore the Soros I don't

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Speaker 5: even know if there's one in Las Vegas. I guess

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Speaker 5: it probably is a Soros pack Da there. But what

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Speaker 5: would a Soros pack Da do? They'd say, Oh, well,

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Speaker 5: it's tough than a witch. Individual delivered the fatal blow,

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Speaker 5: and it was it was a melee, and you know,

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Speaker 5: and you know these are young.

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Speaker 2: These people are young.

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Speaker 5: Some of them are probably fifteen, sixteen years old, and

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Speaker 5: so you know, we don't want to ruin their lives.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know how they they'll try to make

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Speaker 5: no one pay any price for this if they can that.

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Speaker 2: That is the leftist Soros view of it.

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Speaker 1: Not only this, wasn't it just in Las Vegas that

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Speaker 1: we had the incident where the two teenagers were driving

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Speaker 1: the car and intentionally hit the guy and drove over

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Speaker 1: him and then mocked his family, flicked him off in

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Speaker 1: the court proceeding, and then in the interview immediately after

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Speaker 1: joked about the fact that they had intentionally driven over

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Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, that's two awful teenage murders on

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Speaker 1: camera that have now occurred in Las Vegas in what

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Speaker 1: a few months time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we'll see if there's any justice at all

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Speaker 5: in that. We'll continue to follow that story. Online identity

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Speaker 5: We have a bunch of calls mister Clay and let's

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Speaker 5: do it. Ken in Oregon, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Ken?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning guys.

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Speaker 4: You do a wonderful job. Love listening to you every

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Speaker 4: morning and appreciate that. Yeah. I'm a Jew and my

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Speaker 4: grandparents on both sides. One side left Ukraine before the

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Speaker 4: Soviets got too terrible about it in the twenties, and

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Speaker 4: my father's family came from Poland for the same reason,

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Speaker 4: before Hitler got too strong. But in any case, as

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Speaker 4: if and by the way, I do not call them democrats.

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Speaker 4: I refer to them as commukrats, because I believe that

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Speaker 4: is exactly what they become. If they didn't give me

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Speaker 4: your reason enough to despise them before this stance about

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Speaker 4: the so called Palestinians who were actually Jordanians. But that's

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Speaker 4: another story. They certainly have finished the task of totally

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Speaker 4: alienating me, and I will do everything in my power

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Speaker 4: politically to get them the heck out of office.

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Speaker 1: Have you I'm curious, by the way, and we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you listening. Have you found people you obviously probably have

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Speaker 1: been voting for Republican for a while, but Ken, have

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Speaker 1: you found others in your community? You mentioned the Jewish

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Speaker 1: community in the wake of October seventh. Have you heard

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Speaker 1: other people who may have disagreed with you politically for

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Speaker 1: some time now saying hey, Ken, maybe you were onto

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Speaker 1: something here. Is this conversation happening in your experience?

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Speaker 4: I've had some, but there's many more who will vote

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Speaker 4: Democrat no matter what. But yes, there have been some

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Speaker 4: who have said that they can no longer support the

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Speaker 4: Democrats because of their stance over this latest conflict between

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Speaker 4: Newsreel and their enemies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, doubt well, thank you, yeah, thank you for

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Speaker 2: calling them. Lets hope that they stick with that. Rob

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Speaker 2: in Georgia, what's up, Rob?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Hey, thank you for my taking my call. You

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Speaker 8: guys are great. So devermin word that Trump used. I

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Speaker 8: love words, and sometimes I'll look him up when I think, well,

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Speaker 8: I'm not quite sure I know what that word means.

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Speaker 8: So if you check it out, it's interesting. The Middle

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Speaker 8: English denotes it as connecting to animals such as reptiles

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Speaker 8: and snakes. And you know, Trump has got that vicious

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Speaker 8: snake poem that he uses, and he's really interesting the

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Speaker 8: way he gets our attention with words like fake news.

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Speaker 8: I remember when I heard that, I was like, it

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Speaker 8: stopped me in my tracks. And what the left does,

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Speaker 8: I believe, is just, you know, no breaking news here.

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Speaker 8: But basically they see the worst in the American individual.

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Speaker 8: They take what he said at it to Nazi Germany

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Speaker 8: and say, traditional American people that uphold traditional American values

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Speaker 8: are basic. If we support Trump, we're basically moving into

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Speaker 8: Nazi Germany type status. It's just absolutely ridiculous and offensive.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: Look, if he had said rats, if he had said snakes,

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Speaker 1: if he had said trash, I mean that many of

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Speaker 1: those words are synonymous. And so we talked about this earlier.

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Speaker 1: For people out there who don't know that Trump is

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Speaker 1: being attacked because he said that people in the on

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Speaker 1: the left in this country trying to destroy us from

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Speaker 1: the inside or vermin And my reaction to the entire

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Speaker 1: clip we played is he's right, They're America's biggest enemies.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, are those on the left who would

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Speaker 1: destroy America from the inside. That's my opinion. You can

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Speaker 1: agree or disagree with it. Calling those people vermin or

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Speaker 1: rats or snakes. Does it seem like that when you

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Speaker 1: can especially consider what Trump says, It doesn't even seem

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Speaker 1: that particularly no worthy, I think it's accurate.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, it's just it creates the.

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Speaker 5: Opening for a Trump is Hitler news cycle, and at MSNBC,

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Speaker 5: they're gonna take every opening they can to do that,

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Speaker 5: and to just say, I mean, I'm not saying Trump

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Speaker 5: is Hitler. They're gonna say, but I mean, he's kind

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Speaker 5: of like Hitler. This is what this is what they're

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Speaker 5: gonna be doing over it, And.

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Speaker 2: Totally, I totally get that.

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Speaker 1: I just can't believe they would do it in the

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Speaker 1: wake of the worst that tackle Jews since the Holocaust.

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Speaker 1: Like Hitler is pretty bad standard, Hamas is like Hitler.

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Speaker 1: Trump saying somebody's vermin, and it ain't that similar.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: In the wake of what we just saw happen in Israel,

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Speaker 1: and I thought they would at least not be the

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Speaker 1: boy who cried wolf on this story this quickly.

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Speaker 5: I dis expected better. I guess there's no bottom clay.

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Speaker 5: They could keep getting worse, and I think they will.

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Speaker 5: I think the Libs, the Kamis will keep getting worse

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four. But the good news is we

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Speaker 5: will be here to hold them to account and to

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Speaker 5: make fun of them when it is necessary, which will

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Speaker 5: be a lot