WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE @ 2019 Senior Bowl - Day 2 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:06.320 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:10.160 on the our war room for incenter news and draft analysis, 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:16.239 Dallas Cowboys Selectio Elliot and now your hosts Dane Brugler, 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.640 David Hellman and Brian brought us boris the Draft Show 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:24.639 here from Mobile, Alabama. We have the early version of 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.080 the Draft show going on today. We usually go at 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:32.040 six pm, but because of the weather here in Mobile, 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.559 the rains have forced us to go inside. There we go, 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.160 right lights, bright lights, big city. Absolutely, that's David Hellman, 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.919 I'm Brian Brauns. Dane's the Brugler. I'll tell you we're 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.800 having all kinds of fun already here though. As we 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.080 were saying, though, first time guys. Since nineteen ninety two, 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.680 I've been coming to the practices here in Mobile, Alabama, 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.440 and I've not been able to see a practice because 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:59.040 of weather. Don't Why are you lying to our listeners, Brian, 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.480 We haven't practice on the team we have here. We 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.320 do have practice on thank you. ESPN is Yes they're 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:07.520 showing if you you're kind of falling along, yes you 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.280 can you can watch us, but you can also watch 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:14.199 on ESPN. You Uh, this was something that again the 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.520 weather here in Mobile, Alabama. The rains on percent chance 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.840 pouring down rain less on us right now. Dan Briggler 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.600 had to do uh some some work down the down 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.560 the street, hustled over here real quick to get to 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:29.600 be a part of this. Will appreciate your brother. It's 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.800 it's wet out. It's uh, there's a little bit of 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.360 a downpour going on. Certain understand why they canceled. I 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:39.040 mean it's been raining all day, Uh for safety reasons. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:40.679 I mean a lot of people are gonna blame. Well, 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.800 it's ESPN and if a network's fall right, you know, 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.600 it's been raining all day the fields and no condition 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.800 to be playing. Hopefully tomorrow it's supposed to be dry, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.320 but hopefully the field will be in good condition tomorrow. 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.160 You have to worry about these players, Dave, come here 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.160 with the opportunity to showcase for this is way different 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.560 than if it was a Thursday or a Wednesday getting 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.840 ready for a football game. Right. These guys, I mean, 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.560 and they are technically, but it's right. These guys are 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.880 here basically out of the goodness of their heart to 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.400 try to improve their draft stock. The last thing the 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.440 Senior Bowl wants to do is have somebody tear something 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.920 in a practice that is not for a competitive game. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.880 So yeah, it completely makes sense. Yeah, I think we 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.359 talked last night about how much better attendance has been 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.840 the last couple of years. How's it going to affect 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.720 attendance if one of your star and attendees tears his 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.000 achilles on a wet field, No, no thing, And we've 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.960 been talking about how yesterday we talked about it, how 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.200 this year we've had fewer dropouts, higher level of talent. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.799 All it takes is for Montez Sweat to slide right 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.799 into a bleachers and break his leg right, and then 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.600 next year talk about some of the first round, second 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.840 round players saying, I don't know if that Senior Bowl 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.680 is really for me. I think they'll take my chances 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.360 go to the combine that kind of thing. Yeah, if 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.840 you see our eyes kind of darting at you and 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.560 then over, Yeah, we've got that. We've got it on 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.200 right here to our right. Shouts out to ESPN because 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.440 they told us last night. Yeah, we got emails. Yeah. Clearly, 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.960 the indoor, as you would expect, is a lot smaller 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.160 than lad People's stadium, So they didn't think they were 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.560 in South Alabama today home of Gerald ja Ja Jaguars, 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.079 but Gerald Everett who's playing in the second. They were 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.640 testing my mascot knowledge, No, I was testing, Yeah, absolutely testing. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.920 They play their home games at lad People's but they 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.320 have a brand new, beautiful, but indoor facility. Nobody thought 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.520 they'd be able to televise from the indoor, so this 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.840 is this is great. Yeah, and the North practice is 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.760 going on right now, so we are kind of again 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:37.920 keeping it on that but we're gonna have this uh 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:39.760 this show for you to day and just started, so 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.600 they're just stretching, getting and so we got time as 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.840 things as things kind of materialized, we'll kind of shout, 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.440 shoot a glance over there and kind of talk about 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.880 some things. You know, guys, yesterday, Dane, you talked about 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:57.080 defensive tackles. Yeah, you know, and you talked about you know, 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.520 you know when you when you look at when you 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.360 look at the the kids that are here at the 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.960 at the Senior Bowl and the guys that you felt 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.080 like that stood out. Yesterday you were talking about, you know, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.840 Wren being one of them from Arizona State, the Texas 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:15.640 a and m kid uh Dale mac right talk a 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.280 little bit more about though, you know Texas A and 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.720 m has A has got another one. Yeah, who's the 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.920 other one? Kingsley Key? Yeah Key. For the longest time, 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:25.880 like up until this summer, I thought it was Kekey 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.120 Kingsley right, And it was like kind of blew my 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.080 mind and I realized it was the other way around. Yeah. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.839 He coming into the year, he had the better career 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:40.200 and higher trajectory than Dalen macd ma Right. Dale Mac 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.840 was a big recruit, you know, high expectations. First three years. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.480 He didn't really live up to it. Uh, you know, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:50.880 talking in September October, I'm you know, Keiki's the better prospect, 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.960 but Dalen Maccas the season went on, senior season went on, 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.120 it really kind of proved that he was, you know 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:58.919 kind of I mean, someone will look at it and 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.880 say one year wonder, but he's really hitting his stride 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.920 and as long as the efforts there, you feel good 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.080 about him projecting the next level. And he showed it 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:10.120 here in yesterday's practice. How he's got that squatty lower 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.320 body and even who I compared him to Wash mean, 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.520 he's two three years ago. Member Javon Hargrave, South Carolina 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.040 State absolutely and you got him in that, you got 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.120 him in the Senior exactly he was. It was similar 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.200 to his story by the way, Javon Hargrave with the 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.240 Shrine Game live at the at the Shrine Game, A 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.960 practices loved him, uh, and then at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.919 I think it was Wednesday practice, Phil Savage we had 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.760 when you get injured and say, hey, guys, I'm taking 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.919 uh suggestions. Is their defensive tackle out there that should 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.880 be here, deserves them here? We could fight, you know, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.000 proximity wise, we would fly him in. I told him, Okay, 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.560 Javon Hargrave, I just saw him last week. I think 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:48.839 he's practice or he's working out in Florida, you know, 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.160 just a puddle jump from here, bring him over. That's 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.960 what they did. Javon Haard Hargrave had a strong Thursday practice, 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.360 strong rest of the process, and the Steelers took him 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:58.880 in the third round. But that's how I think Dala 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:02.520 knock who again, a guy came here and he's having 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:04.479 a great week. I think he could. He's got that 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:08.680 similar you know stout body's got the big bubble and yeah, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.920 I think they play similar. So I think he's also 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.640 working himself into being a possible top one hundred pick. 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:15.960 And but Keiki, though, what do you kind of see 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:17.520 with him? As far as you know, and we have 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:19.040 some folks out there. In a a matter of fact, one 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.200 of the Twitter questions I had today were some folks 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.839 that were interested about these defensive tackles, especially from Texas 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.560 A and M. With Keiki, I think he's when his 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.800 first step doesn't work or that first move, he's kind 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.240 of done. Yeah, he doesn't have the secondary measures, the 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.400 calendar measures. That's what I want to see from him 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.640 this week, hopefully is better hand use, better understanding of Okay, 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.200 when this doesn't work out, I'm gonna do this, uh, 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.680 you know, better job setting up blockers. So I want 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.680 to see that from him. I can't see I saw 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.320 it in yesterday's practice, but something to look forward to, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.080 you know, tomorrow and as we go forward. David Hellman 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.000 the Dallas Cowboys, with what went on at the end 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.200 of the season, defensive tackle an area you're going to 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.159 look at. I think it's a no. I don't even 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:03.840 want to call it a sneaky, big need. I think 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.400 it's just a need. David Irving probably not coming back 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.120 to this team even if he does, he's played. I 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.480 I mean, yes, thank you. Um, Malie Collins is heading 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:20.240 into a contract year, Antoine Woods a great, great story, 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.000 doesn't mean you can't add to the position because also 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.480 coming off the injury and coming you know, had surgery 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.200 right after the season was over. That's a good point. Um. Yeah, absolutely, 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.200 And see I think you know smartly. I think anybody 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.400 that listens to this show is aware not to fall 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.840 in love with a first round defensive tackle. Yeah, but 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.720 we don't have to worry about that this year. True. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.800 Do you think second round too early for this team 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.000 to see? That's why I want to I want to 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.280 look I want to look at Yeah, I want to 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.280 second round. Sure, they found a guy on the street. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.680 Like you said, Malie Collins was pick sixty seven nine 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.800 spots or eleven spots after uh no, nine spots after 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.880 fifty eight. So I think it's plausible if you're watching 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.840 along with us and then happen to have one eye 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:07.240 on ESPN, you they are showing Will Greer, the quarterback 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.480 from West Virginia. I want to get into some of 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.720 these quarterbacks, even though it's not a Dallas Cowboys need 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.440 per se. I want to talk about some of these 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.120 guys though, because we have fans from other teams that 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.520 might be looking for quarterbacks, might be wondering how does 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.000 Will Grier measure to some of the other guys we've 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.000 kind of seen or are starting to see here in 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.320 this draft process. Even if you're a Cowboys fan, what 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.720 shapes a draft class quarterbacks? Yeah, so I thought you. 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:34.679 I don't think you can have a full understanding of 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.199 the way this all shapes up without having a good 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.439 idea of where these quarterbacks are going. Flipping it back 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.800 to the defensive side of the ball, the defensive tackle spot, Dane. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:47.920 Where Dexter Lawrence from Clemson? That's a good name. Why 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.200 am I? Why am I struggling with Dexter Lawrence? And 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.080 everybody tells me Dexter Lawrence is a hell of a 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:58.640 football player. I mean I think he is. But value wise, 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.559 impact wise, what where do you where do you draft him? 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.920 Because he's not a great pass rusher. I don't I 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.000 don't care what you've shown me, what stats you show me, 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.480 he doesn't show on film. Yeah, that's the problem I'm 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.400 having with him, David. It just it just impact. I mean, 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.280 I don't know if I'm drafting a nose tackle, a 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.160 one technique in the top you know, not to sound 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.440 like you know Stephen Jones, Right, Yeah, it's just the 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.040 Cowboys front office. Right. Well, I thought this way last 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:24.840 year with Vita Vea. I wasn't high on him. No, No, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:28.040 you were. Again, if I'm drafting a defensive tackle on 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.480 the top twenty twenty five, I need a pass rusher. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.360 I need someone that's going to impact the pocket. I mean, 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:33.880 it's great that you're a run stuff for us. Great 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.840 you can occupy double teams and help others get to 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.560 the quarterback. But if I'm gonna draft you because I 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.679 can find those guys, I feel confident I can find 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.800 those guys later. If I'm drafting you with a premium 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.040 draft pick, you better give me just a little bit 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.880 more than you know. Being a run stuffer and with 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.120 dextra Lawrence, that's a big question. Can he give you more? 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.040 I'm not sold that he can. That's why I am 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:54.680 I top fifty list. He came in at like forty something, 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.200 early forties, like forty two, something like that. Um, but 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.839 I don't know. He it's a planet theory with him, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.160 There's only so many people on this planet. That looked 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.320 like him. Yes, that's why Vita went as high as 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.040 he did, Right, That's why this kid's probably gonna go 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.760 in the top twenty twenty five picks. But I think 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.320 we both agree that I don't know. There's just something 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.240 missing there. There is something missing there. This is a 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.199 familiar I mean, God, we've had this conversation more times 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.080 than I can talk. But to go back to that 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:25.840 point fifty eight is that too rich for I mean, 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.080 it might be exactly he might be. You might be 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.199 staring at him at fifty eight. You think he falls 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:33.920 that far. I don't think he falls that far. Well. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.280 The question, okay, the question you have is though our 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.920 team's going to not our team's going to dock him 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.280 because of the up and down tape. No, because I 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.280 think they're gonna believe in the traits. Um. I think 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:49.719 you look at Vida Vea last year, at the Ron 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.880 Payne last year. Those both those guys went what twelve 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.280 and thirteen something like that. Sure, I think Dexter Lawrence 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:56.880 is still going to go in the first round. I'd 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.760 be surprised if he doesn't. Um, I don't see the value. 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.080 I have my questions, but I still think he's gonna 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.559 go high. Um, I mean, look at the playoff games 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.160 comes and played. Did you see the big drop off 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.760 on their defensive line. No, you mentioned that. No, you 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.160 know you didn't see that, and so I don't know. 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.560 I still think he's gonna go high, though, I will say, 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:19.000 even at fifty eight, I still I think Stephen Jones 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.400 is kind of mantra is gonna hold true. I can't 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.280 imagine that they are going to draft a D tackle 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.520 who doesn't have pass rush ability. I think you're absolutely right. 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.839 I mean, even Malie Collins was a third round pick. 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:31.440 He can rush the back. Okay, what about a Galley 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.679 Jerry Tillery then from Notre Dame. I wish she was here? Yeah, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.760 me too. I was told he was looking for some 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.480 reasons not to be here. Yeah, he didn't really want 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:42.800 to be here, which is kind of a red flag 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:47.280 for me, right, added to the red flaglist with him. Okay, 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.320 do you want to expand on that. I know there's 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.800 a lot of scouts that have some questions because he's 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.240 just uh, because Notre Dame has put some guys in 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:58.920 this league here. P Prett regularly last Notre Dame will 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.240 always put guys in the league question um, especially them 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.360 offensive lineman. I tell you, when you watch you watch 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.080 Jerry Tillery's ten best plays from this year, you're gonna 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.800 fall in love. I mean, you're gonna just buy in, 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:13.040 uh with what he offers, that length, that athleticism. There's 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.480 there's plenty to like about Jerry Tillery. I don't know. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.880 I just I worry about is he gonna bring me what? 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.320 I you know that that juice day in day out. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.360 I don't know. I have some questions there, scouts out questions. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.480 I mean, there's there's some character questions from Jerry Tillery 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.040 that could push them how to the first round, maybe 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.840 further than people think. There's a slider Dave give them. Hey, 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.160 well yeah, whoa, whoa, we we almost got the wave. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:39.080 I like sliders, but I'm I'm a big fan of 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.320 guys that like to be here, and I'm yeah, that 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.200 troubles me if somebody's not. Again, you want guys that 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.280 want to compete, right right. That's that's me talking. But 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.200 that's also a line, a big line under Jason Garrett. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.880 You know they love guys that love football. Can I 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:57.400 ask you guys a question? Sorry to Chris Rashard And 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.959 how is that he going to affect, if at all, 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:05.360 their defensive strategy with the draft in terms of defensive tackles, 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:10.199 in terms of what corners they look at. Absolutely, safety. Absolutely. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.040 How do you think that affects fifty eight if at all? Well, 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.600 I think it affects it quite a bit. Well also, 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.440 I mean, and I you know, he's more established now 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.640 and we got to see how it plays out. But 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.680 in a few weeks, you know, maybe there's a title 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.520 change or a little bit of a roll shift. But 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.839 he was there from January of last year, so probably 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:31.800 he did have a big stick for what he did 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:35.000 with Byron Jones. Absolutely, he moved Byron Jones to corner. Yeah, 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.640 so he was a part of those evaluations. So I 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.440 think you will already kind of have a look at that, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.000 although you know, with what he did this year, Yeah, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.600 I think it's fair to say he'll have even more influenced. 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.319 They might take his opinion a little more. Oh yeah, 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.240 his impact or his opinion might make a little more 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:53.000 impact in draft meetings when they're stacking the draft board. Absolutely, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:57.079 and I think that's something pivot to corners that are here. Yeah, 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.240 this is the a good group of corners. If you're 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.960 looking for tall, long guys who can run, starts with 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:07.160 Isaiah Johnson from Houston, who thirty three and three quarter 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:11.360 inch arms, which is silly for a corner He came 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.319 in at six two and I think a quarter he's 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.320 gonna run in the four fours of the combine. Dude 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.520 can blaze. He's a former receiver. You know he has 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:24.120 the ball skills. He's incredibly raw. But if you're talking 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.640 about the traits, which is that's what we know teams 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:31.000 look for, especially this team, size, length, speed, he has 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.520 it in spades, and I think that he's a guy 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.680 that needs to be on the radar. Maybe even at 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.760 fifty eight. I think he's more of a third rounder. 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.800 But for teams that really value you're picking at the 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.000 back end of the draft, he's almost have to think 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.200 around on these guys. We've said that a bunch here 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.160 on the draft Jo. I'm just thinking it myself. It's 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.600 funny because Christopher Shard is a probably a huge part 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.200 of the reason why in twenty nineteen we're obsessed with 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.720 tall cornerbacks with long arms. Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.720 He works for the Cowboys now, so That's a great point. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.600 Dane's absolutely right about Isaiah Johnson. If I go back 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.600 and look at my notes on him, you know, this 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.920 guy can jam, he can redirect, he can cover some 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:12.240 ground when he runs to big tall wades on a speeds. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.120 Not a question, but I thought he need to be 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:15.920 a bit more aware of the football. I thought there 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.720 were some times where you know, when you when you 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.600 start talking about him, you know where the ball is. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.440 You know, We've seen that with some of the cowboy 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.760 you know, with a Woozier, with Byron Jones and those guys, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.440 And I'm sure it happens around the league too. There's 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.240 a lot of teams out there to have cornerbacks that 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.640 don't play with a lot of awareness though for where 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.920 the ball is. Dane really messed me up when we 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.440 did our first show. Because I love to think about 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.880 draft needs. It's I spent I daydream about it, like 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:42.960 when I'm putting my shoes on in the morning. Yeah, 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.920 and cornerback hadn't even dawned on me. Really, Like d 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:51.400 tackles out there, you get Aaron Jones were break it 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.960 down and even further detail. The only cornerback on this 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.920 team with a secure future right now is cheeto you 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.240 got Byron coming into a contract year, Anthony Brown coming 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.800 into a contract year. I think he has played well 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.160 for what they've let him. Byron doesn't have a contract well, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.000 he does, he does right now. Right now he's playing 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:12.560 on his fifth year. He's up. Yeah, Anthony Brown and 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:17.040 Byron are both up after this upcoming season. Yeah. Jordan Lewis, again, 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:18.920 I thought he played well in the spots they gave him, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.480 but he's clearly not favored here, probably because of Christopher 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.880 Shard just from a size standpoint, and so all of 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.240 a sudden, you know, as good as the situation looks 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.720 heading into twenty nineteen, it's pretty dicey after that, right. 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:33.920 So I think it is something we're gonna have to 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.920 talk about as we just trying to take a peek 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.080 at what's going on there at the Jaguars at the 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.880 South Alabama indoor practice facility. Is if you're watching us 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.240 and and also watching the drills that they're kind of 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.800 focusing on the defensive line. We talked about that a 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.560 little earlier as we as we opened the show. Uh, 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.000 They're they're running through the bags. It's something this is 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.800 all pre practice stuff that we do, as you know 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:03.440 when you watch practice when we're at training camp, things 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.840 like that. They they run through all these drills get 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.520 ready for the actually big part of practice where later 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.080 you'll see the team period. We'll see some one on 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.399 one stuff. We'll see some nine on seven, some seven 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.800 on seven full pads today too, by the way, guys, 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.800 so that's a that's a good sign, and we'll have 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.480 some full pads on tomorrow as well. UM. Any other 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:27.000 cornerbacks though, Dane that you know is Johnson, is Isaiah 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.600 Johnson the best one that we can look forward to 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.440 on the weekend as we watch these the Senior Bowl 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.560 game unfold. I think that Rocky sin from Temple is 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.880 the best corner here. Okay, I think he's a top 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:40.720 fifty guy. I don't think he'll be. And we talked 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.000 about him a little last night. Yeah, he's a really 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.320 good player. UM after him, I think that's when you 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.920 there's some debate. Chris Boyd from Texas, Um, I think 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.400 he's in that mix. Um, Lonnie Johnson from Kentucky. Right, 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.879 there's some things missing in his game, but another guy, big, long, 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.240 he can play, so he's gonna be in that mix. 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.200 The Penn State kid. Yeah, So you know, I think 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:08.360 there's we're all and we're talking about big, physical, long corners, 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.600 all of them, and so they're kind of gonna be 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.280 in the same mix and that right around fifty eight, 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.320 you know, and it's just right, where is that too 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.160 early for them? If you wait till the third round? 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.320 Can you still get a guy that you like? Um, 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.640 that'll be the debate at fifty eight, because it's it's 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.760 an interesting spot picking that late in this round. It is, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.679 and you know, we go back. You talk about Lonnie 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.000 Johnson from Kentucky and I was looking just through my 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.280 notes a guy for a tall guy, I thought he 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.080 turned pretty well, you know, quick with his reactions. Felt 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.240 it felt like he can close on the ball pretty well. 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.640 But the thing I had, I didn't I didn't see 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.720 deep speed, Dane. That was what I kind of worried about. 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:49.720 I saw some separation there. I mean he billy staying 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.879 route with and then all of a sudden at the end, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.439 there was a separation there. 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