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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on the our war room for incenter news and draft analysis,

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Selectio Elliot and now your hosts Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 1: David Hellman and Brian brought us boris the Draft Show

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Speaker 1: here from Mobile, Alabama. We have the early version of

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Speaker 1: the Draft show going on today. We usually go at

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Speaker 1: six pm, but because of the weather here in Mobile,

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Speaker 1: the rains have forced us to go inside. There we go,

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Speaker 1: right lights, bright lights, big city. Absolutely, that's David Hellman,

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Brauns. Dane's the Brugler. I'll tell you we're

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Speaker 1: having all kinds of fun already here though. As we

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Speaker 1: were saying, though, first time guys. Since nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 1: I've been coming to the practices here in Mobile, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: and I've not been able to see a practice because

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Speaker 1: of weather. Don't Why are you lying to our listeners, Brian,

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Speaker 1: We haven't practice on the team we have here. We

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Speaker 1: do have practice on thank you. ESPN is Yes they're

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Speaker 1: showing if you you're kind of falling along, yes you

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Speaker 1: can you can watch us, but you can also watch

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Speaker 1: on ESPN. You Uh, this was something that again the

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Speaker 1: weather here in Mobile, Alabama. The rains on percent chance

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Speaker 1: pouring down rain less on us right now. Dan Briggler

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Speaker 1: had to do uh some some work down the down

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Speaker 1: the street, hustled over here real quick to get to

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Speaker 1: be a part of this. Will appreciate your brother. It's

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Speaker 1: it's wet out. It's uh, there's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a downpour going on. Certain understand why they canceled. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's been raining all day, Uh for safety reasons.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people are gonna blame. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's ESPN and if a network's fall right, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been raining all day the fields and no condition

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Speaker 1: to be playing. Hopefully tomorrow it's supposed to be dry,

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Speaker 1: but hopefully the field will be in good condition tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You have to worry about these players, Dave, come here

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Speaker 1: with the opportunity to showcase for this is way different

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Speaker 1: than if it was a Thursday or a Wednesday getting

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Speaker 1: ready for a football game. Right. These guys, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and they are technically, but it's right. These guys are

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Speaker 1: here basically out of the goodness of their heart to

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Speaker 1: try to improve their draft stock. The last thing the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl wants to do is have somebody tear something

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Speaker 1: in a practice that is not for a competitive game.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it completely makes sense. Yeah, I think we

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Speaker 1: talked last night about how much better attendance has been

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. How's it going to affect

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Speaker 1: attendance if one of your star and attendees tears his

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Speaker 1: achilles on a wet field, No, no thing, And we've

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Speaker 1: been talking about how yesterday we talked about it, how

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Speaker 1: this year we've had fewer dropouts, higher level of talent.

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Speaker 1: All it takes is for Montez Sweat to slide right

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Speaker 1: into a bleachers and break his leg right, and then

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Speaker 1: next year talk about some of the first round, second

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Speaker 1: round players saying, I don't know if that Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: is really for me. I think they'll take my chances

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Speaker 1: go to the combine that kind of thing. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: you see our eyes kind of darting at you and

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Speaker 1: then over, Yeah, we've got that. We've got it on

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Speaker 1: right here to our right. Shouts out to ESPN because

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Speaker 1: they told us last night. Yeah, we got emails. Yeah. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: the indoor, as you would expect, is a lot smaller

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Speaker 1: than lad People's stadium, So they didn't think they were

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Speaker 1: in South Alabama today home of Gerald ja Ja Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: but Gerald Everett who's playing in the second. They were

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Speaker 1: testing my mascot knowledge, No, I was testing, Yeah, absolutely testing.

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Speaker 1: They play their home games at lad People's but they

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Speaker 1: have a brand new, beautiful, but indoor facility. Nobody thought

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Speaker 1: they'd be able to televise from the indoor, so this

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Speaker 1: is this is great. Yeah, and the North practice is

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Speaker 1: keeping it on that but we're gonna have this uh

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Speaker 1: some things. You know, guys, yesterday, Dane, you talked about

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Speaker 1: defensive tackles. Yeah, you know, and you talked about you know,

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Speaker 1: He didn't really live up to it. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: talking in September October, I'm you know, Keiki's the better prospect,

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Speaker 1: here in yesterday's practice. How he's got that squatty lower

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Speaker 1: he's two three years ago. Member Javon Hargrave, South Carolina

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Speaker 1: State absolutely and you got him in that, you got

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Speaker 1: him in the Senior exactly he was. It was similar

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Speaker 1: to his story by the way, Javon Hargrave with the

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Speaker 1: Shrine Game live at the at the Shrine Game, A

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Speaker 1: practices loved him, uh, and then at the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh suggestions. Is their defensive tackle out there that should

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Speaker 1: be here, deserves them here? We could fight, you know,

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Speaker 1: Javon Hargrave, I just saw him last week. I think

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Speaker 1: just a puddle jump from here, bring him over. That's

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Speaker 1: what they did. Javon Haard Hargrave had a strong Thursday practice,

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Speaker 1: strong rest of the process, and the Steelers took him

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Speaker 1: a great week. I think he could. He's got that

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Speaker 1: And but Keiki, though, what do you kind of see

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Speaker 1: you know, better job setting up blockers. So I want

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Speaker 1: to see that from him. I can't see I saw

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Speaker 1: it in yesterday's practice, but something to look forward to,

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Speaker 1: you know, tomorrow and as we go forward. David Hellman

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, with what went on at the end

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Speaker 1: of the season, defensive tackle an area you're going to

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Speaker 1: look at. I think it's a no. I don't even

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Speaker 1: it's just a need. David Irving probably not coming back

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, thank you. Um, Malie Collins is heading

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Speaker 1: into a contract year, Antoine Woods a great, great story,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't add to the position because also

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Speaker 1: right after the season was over. That's a good point. Um. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And see I think you know smartly. I think anybody

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Speaker 1: that listens to this show is aware not to fall

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Speaker 1: in love with a first round defensive tackle. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about that this year. True.

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Speaker 1: Do you think second round too early for this team

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Speaker 1: to see? That's why I want to I want to

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Speaker 1: look I want to look at Yeah, I want to

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Speaker 1: second round. Sure, they found a guy on the street.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, Malie Collins was pick sixty seven nine

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Speaker 1: spots or eleven spots after uh no, nine spots after

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Speaker 1: fifty eight. So I think it's plausible if you're watching

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Speaker 1: on ESPN, you they are showing Will Greer, the quarterback

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Speaker 1: from West Virginia. I want to get into some of

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, even though it's not a Dallas Cowboys need

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Speaker 1: guys though, because we have fans from other teams that

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Speaker 1: Will Grier measure to some of the other guys we've

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Speaker 1: shapes a draft class quarterbacks? Yeah, so I thought you.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can have a full understanding of

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Speaker 1: the way this all shapes up without having a good

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Speaker 1: idea of where these quarterbacks are going. Flipping it back

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Speaker 1: to the defensive side of the ball, the defensive tackle spot, Dane.

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Speaker 1: Where Dexter Lawrence from Clemson? That's a good name. Why

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Speaker 1: am I? Why am I struggling with Dexter Lawrence? And

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Speaker 1: everybody tells me Dexter Lawrence is a hell of a

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Speaker 1: football player. I mean I think he is. But value wise,

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Speaker 1: impact wise, what where do you where do you draft him?

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Speaker 1: Because he's not a great pass rusher. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't care what you've shown me, what stats you show me,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't show on film. Yeah, that's the problem I'm

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Speaker 1: having with him, David. It just it just impact. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm drafting a nose tackle, a

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Speaker 1: one technique in the top you know, not to sound

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Speaker 1: like you know Stephen Jones, Right, Yeah, it's just the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys front office. Right. Well, I thought this way last

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Speaker 1: year with Vita Vea. I wasn't high on him. No, No,

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Speaker 1: you were. Again, if I'm drafting a defensive tackle on

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Speaker 1: the top twenty twenty five, I need a pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: I need someone that's going to impact the pocket. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's great that you're a run stuff for us. Great

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Speaker 1: you can occupy double teams and help others get to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. But if I'm gonna draft you because I

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Speaker 1: can find those guys, I feel confident I can find

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Speaker 1: those guys later. If I'm drafting you with a premium

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Speaker 1: more than you know. Being a run stuffer and with

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Speaker 1: dextra Lawrence, that's a big question. Can he give you more?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sold that he can. That's why I am

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Speaker 1: I top fifty list. He came in at like forty something,

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Speaker 1: early forties, like forty two, something like that. Um, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He it's a planet theory with him,

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Speaker 1: There's only so many people on this planet. That looked

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Speaker 1: like him. Yes, that's why Vita went as high as

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Speaker 1: he did, Right, That's why this kid's probably gonna go

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Speaker 1: in the top twenty twenty five picks. But I think

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Speaker 1: we both agree that I don't know. There's just something

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Speaker 1: missing there. There is something missing there. This is a

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Speaker 1: from Mobile, Alabama. We are tour again a little bit

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Speaker 1: earlier today because of the weather conditions here in Mobile,

446
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Speaker 1: they had to go to the University of South Alabama

447
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Speaker 1: for practice. The North team has already practice. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go to Dame Brugler here in just a minute. He's

449
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Speaker 1: going to tell us some highlights or things that were noted.

450
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Speaker 1: We had cool reporters at the practice, so they were

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Speaker 1: able to kind of type things up for us and

452
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Speaker 1: give us a little bit of idea. We do have

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Speaker 1: our eye on the television screen here where where the

454
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Speaker 1: South team is practicing right now, if there's anything developing there. Again,

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Speaker 1: they're going through their drills with their position coaches and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and so kind of a kind of wish we were

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Speaker 1: there watching these drills because it kind of gives you

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Speaker 1: an idea about foot quickness and ability to turn and

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Speaker 1: all that. So we'll watch the table later. Absolutely, we'll

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Speaker 1: figure it all out. We'll figure it out, okay, real quick. Day.

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Speaker 1: Before I get to the twitter on the twenty, I

462
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Speaker 1: want to go with Dan, just give us a little

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Speaker 1: bit of what happened, some things that happened at the

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Speaker 1: early at the North practice this morning. So if you

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Speaker 1: just little tidbitsum, we'll talk more in death later we

466
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Speaker 1: get more details. But Donald Para, the that's intense. We

467
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Speaker 1: talked about him last night six eight. He was injured.

468
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how serious or not, Um, but he

469
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Speaker 1: was hurt. He had to leave Daniel Jones through a

470
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Speaker 1: pair of picks, uh and team drills. That's the quarterback

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Speaker 1: from from Dan A wide receiver who I can't remember

472
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Speaker 1: if you mentioned him yesterday, but if we didn't, we

473
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Speaker 1: should have because he had a really good first practice.

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Speaker 1: Penny Hart. Uh, Bobby Belt somewhere right now, Bobby, Bobby Belting.

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Speaker 1: He is smiling right now that I didn't see his

476
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Speaker 1: five eight wide receiver out there, runner say, the diminutive

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Speaker 1: wide receiver out at Georgia State. Who's he talking to

478
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Speaker 1: Andy as Abella? And in a similar vein you know,

479
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Speaker 1: talk about foot quickness and the ability to separate. Penny

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Speaker 1: Hart was doing that all day yesterday, and I think

481
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Speaker 1: he's he showed he's able to do that here today

482
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Speaker 1: today's practice. So that quickness, that's that opened some eyes

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Speaker 1: and I think that's Penny Hart's definitely a name you're

484
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Speaker 1: gonna be hearing more and more. Penny Hart. Yeah, Bobby

485
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Speaker 1: Belt came up with that. Bobby, We love you. Thank

486
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Speaker 1: you for always coming up with great names. Okay, David Hellman,

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Speaker 1: give me a little that Twitter on the twenty twenty, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to all right, I want to start off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got some questions too, but this is

490
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Speaker 1: like a conglomeration question because from yesterday until now, like

491
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Speaker 1: ninety five people have asked me about this guy, which,

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Speaker 1: uh makes sense because we're based in Texas. So if

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Speaker 1: y'all could shed some light on Charles Amani who for me?

494
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Speaker 1: Perhaps men who a mina who? Damn it? Whatever you

495
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Speaker 1: took when you took a page out of my took

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Speaker 1: a page out of the broadest book. Yeah, it's January,

497
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Speaker 1: I'll get it. Yeah, I mean, first of all, we

498
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Speaker 1: had to start with the length. Let me get to

499
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Speaker 1: make sure I get it exactly right. Yeah, thirty six

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Speaker 1: and a half in charms. Yeah, that's silly. Yeah, I

501
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Speaker 1: mean that's if you're I mean, we we when we

502
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Speaker 1: go to the combine, he might be the only one

503
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Speaker 1: that has hits thirty six, you know, like thirty six

504
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Speaker 1: is a great number. Thirty six and a half is awesome.

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Speaker 1: And we need to explain how they measure real quick,

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Speaker 1: because because because yeah, your mom, your mom measured her

507
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Speaker 1: hand yesterday, right. My mom happened to listen in the

508
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Speaker 1: Draft show yesterday and she heard about our hand to measure, right,

509
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Speaker 1: so she was your chance to measure arms. Now, she

510
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Speaker 1: was curious, how you know her hands? So she put

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Speaker 1: a ruler down, she spread out her hands. Oh did

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Speaker 1: they stretch her? They stretch her. She just she just

513
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Speaker 1: did it on her own. Oh seven and three quarters. Yeah,

514
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: the same size hands as Hunter. From here on now

515
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: it's he's now Hunter, mom hands Renfro exact is his name? Yeah? Uh?

516
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Speaker 1: And then talking about length, yeah, hands straight out, straight

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Speaker 1: out and from the and from the joint right on

518
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Speaker 1: the top of the in the joint all the way

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Speaker 1: out to your index finger. Right. So when your measure

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Speaker 1: when you when you talk about arm length, it's not like, okay,

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Speaker 1: measure that. It's they take it all the way out

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Speaker 1: and then they measure in the joint and then all

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Speaker 1: the way to the end of your your finger. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of times what they do is they'll take

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Speaker 1: a tape measurer tape it on the wall, right, and

526
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Speaker 1: so you just stand flat back against the wall and

527
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Speaker 1: just yeah, put your arm out like that and see

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Speaker 1: how it goes. Yeah, And they do it too, and

529
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Speaker 1: they measure when they do the vertical, they measure right,

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Speaker 1: you know, they measure that way with the arm going

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Speaker 1: up so they know how much the reach is. So anyway,

532
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Speaker 1: good but a good player though, right from Yeah, Omenta

533
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: who he is a really good player. Uh, he's a

534
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: guy who Texas they played that bass kind of three

535
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Speaker 1: to four defense, and so he played head up over

536
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Speaker 1: the tackle a lot. Didn't really get a chance to

537
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Speaker 1: show off that edge speed on a consistent basis. But

538
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: he's a good athlete and with that type of length,

539
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: you've got something to work with. And so, Omenta who

540
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: he played you're during practice? You saw him line up

541
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Speaker 1: a lot of times inside and so I'm eager to

542
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: see how they use him throughout the week if he

543
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: gets more reps outside. You know, do the teams consider

544
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: more of a five technique? Where is his fit? That's

545
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: a big question. Yeah, you know, it's funny that it was.

546
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: I was yesterday you talk about guys that fits and

547
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Speaker 1: what they do. Did you notice Zach Allen at all

548
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: yesterday day? From Boston? He wrote about Zach Allen? Yeah,

549
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: I noticed, and not in a good way though really,

550
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: to be honest, Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't. I

551
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: mean I probably could have missed a couple of good

552
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: reps for him. I felt like that you know when

553
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: you watch him play. I was not the big Zach

554
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: Allen fan though, and and and the problem I had

555
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: with Zach Allen because I thought he struggled to get

556
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: off to get off the blocks, you know, but I

557
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: thought yesterday was a better day for him. And that

558
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: because I did, there was some some times in the

559
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: one on one stuff where I was like, Okay, oh

560
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: maybe I need to get maybe I need to you know,

561
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: but there was he just doesn't have a lot of

562
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: pass for ushmsing there people talking about him. It's like,

563
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, like first round great, Well I think he yeah,

564
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: he could be a first round guy, but yeah, he's not.

565
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: That pass rush is on his thing. He's a better

566
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: He was better when they put him inside playing tackle

567
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, he did both at Boston College.

568
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: Inside outside, Um, he has ah, he's not that you know,

569
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: speed demon off the edge. I don't. I don't want

570
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: to hear. Pass for rush is not his thing about

571
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: a first round guy. He's a left end. He is right,

572
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: He's a bass end who is a good football player.

573
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: He's gonna play the run. Well, yeah, he can do

574
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things. He'll give you a pass rush.

575
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: It's just not as special. He showed a better pass

576
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: rush yesterday than what I've seen on tape. We're talking

577
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: about Yeah, we're talking about guys that were ends and

578
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: ends and tackles and stuff like that. Yeah, he was

579
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: a guy. I mean, I'm like, man, he looked just

580
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: awful on tape and then you see him live, maybe

581
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: just a little bit better. All right, as long as

582
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: we're doing this, I'll just knock out a question from Buddy.

583
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: Buddy wants to know about DeMarcus Christmas. Florida State. Florida State. Uh,

584
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't know his tape, Like I don't know. I

585
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: it's hard to get a good read off him off

586
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: his tape. But I liked his junior stuff, and then

587
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: coming into this year, I kind of had a high

588
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: expectation coaching change their problems. You think, well, that's that

589
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: was putting that created a lot of Florida State. Yeah. Um,

590
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: but aside from that, you know, yeah, he I don't

591
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: think he played. He didn't play a high number of

592
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: snaps um, but he's he's a big guy and he

593
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: can move. I thought he actually had a good first

594
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: day of practice. Yeah, he had some reps better yesterday

595
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: than he had all season and so he's gonna be

596
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: one that's a little tough. Yeah, but with Christmas, he

597
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: when you watch his tape, he's not gonna blow you away.

598
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: But there's something there. I mean, his junior stuff was good.

599
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: He's playing well here. It's he's gonna be tough one

600
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: to figure out. Okay, here's one which I'm gonna I'm

601
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna revise Matt's question because he says, who is this

602
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: year's vander esh which like, okay, yeah, sure, let's just

603
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: try to figure out who's going to the Pro Bowl

604
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: right now. But it's nice to see, by the way,

605
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: if you're watching a Dallas Cowboys dot com, Nick Eatman

606
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: and whole crew there, Yeah, so check that out for sure.

607
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: But all right, so let's revise that. And we talked

608
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: so much last year about ascending players. Who are some

609
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: ascending players, preferably guys that are here. But if somebody

610
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: really jumps out to you just overall, I need to

611
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: talk about him. I need to coin those words. Yeah, yeah,

612
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: you do for me, for me, this is this is

613
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: it's not even close. And okay, yeah, and who you

614
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: got jump take my guy take No, I'm gonna take

615
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: your guy get ready for this. I don't think I

616
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: know you're gonna take my guy. I'm gonna take your guy.

617
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: Get ready to play for Relabama? Absolutely, Yeah, there you go.

618
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: That's where. That's where, Like I said, I was just

619
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: pulling my notes on Josh Jacosh Jacob Josh Jacobs Universe

620
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: childcat quarterback. No, just badass overall. How about that? Just

621
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: go ahead and just say that about the young man.

622
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean it now, the measurables. You're looking at a

623
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Speaker 1: guy that's five eight, two hundred and thirteen pounds legitimate

624
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: speed says four four nine. I think he's faster than that.

625
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: He's only five eight five nine. He wears number eight.

626
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: He looks like a way bigger matter dude than that. Yeah, okay,

627
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: but he's built. I mean yeah, he has built, you know.

628
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: And that and that's the thing about him is that,

629
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Speaker 1: did I take your guy by the way I did

630
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Speaker 1: take Yeah, this guy's got elusive balance. I mean, I

631
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: mean his it's unreal. I mean, he he will, he will.

632
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: He's got some complete back traits to him as well, though,

633
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: because he'll stand in their pass protect if you let him,

634
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: you know. But the best thing he does, this guy

635
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: breaks the fenders down in space. He's when it. When

636
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, people are gonna talk about

637
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: him a lot. I have a feeling, Oh he's he's

638
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: a first right. If there's a running back in this draft,

639
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: he will go first round. Maybe this kid. Yeah, um,

640
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: it's just crazy. He wasn't He wasn't even the regular star.

641
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: Well he was. He was a third stringer for to

642
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: start that year. He moved to the second string and

643
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: classic Alabama is the third stringer is a bigger badass

644
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: than the starter. So and well, and Damian Harris is

645
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, awesome running back. I think he's the top

646
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: one hundred guy. But he's not Josh Jacobs. Yeah. So

647
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: and we we'll see how Jacob's Uh. I think he's

648
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: gonna do well to combine and I think he's gonna

649
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: have uh. You know a guy we talk about as

650
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: a possible first round pick leading up to the draft.

651
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: So he definitely qualifies as an ascending player. I'll give

652
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: you a guy I was hoping you would who was

653
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: going to be here, but he's hurt. Jelani Tavai from Hawaii. Oh,

654
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: the linebacker. I think I think he's an ascending player.

655
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Who again, don't sleep on this kid. He gave the

656
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: second round right now? Yes, okay, that's what I thought. Peep.

657
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: There are people out here who say his name one

658
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: more yeah, the p A v I A E or I. Yeah.

659
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't go to Brian for spelling k A v Ai.

660
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Listen he there are people that cover the draft that

661
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: don't even know about this kid yet, like he is

662
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: a big time players. They're not wrong. He's not here

663
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: because he has a shoulder that need that he's rehabbing. Um.

664
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: But we'll see if he's okay. I don't think he's

665
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 1: gonna be okay for the combye. We'll see if he's

666
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: okay for a personal workout, play to day type thing.

667
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,239
Speaker 1: Um thirty five right now? Who can move? I mean

668
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: we talk about you know, vander Esh like he's not

669
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: Vanderesh because he's not that type of athlete and there

670
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: are some questions there. But with Tavia, he can move,

671
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: he can cover, he can he plays with power. Uh.

672
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: You know, we we watched Josh Oliver tape the tight

673
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: end who was here from San Jose stage? Here? Did

674
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: we watched Gilani Tavai carry him up the scene without

675
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: not letting him separate. I mean, really impressive stuff. He

676
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: is a three down linebacker who I think he's a

677
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: top sixty pick and people are gonna be surprised when

678
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: he goes so early. But people listening to this won't

679
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: be GI me tell you, give me tell you where

680
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: he's better in college than than Vanderesh. I didn't have

681
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: on take just dogged Layton for months about how he

682
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: wasn't physical enough. I hear you, Yeah, I hear you.

683
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: There there were I wasn't the only one I know.

684
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't the only one to take that dig. No, No,

685
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: I say, this guy, this guy right here though, I mean, okay,

686
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: he's got to be careful when he gets too tall

687
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: here though that's sixty three. He'll play a little upright

688
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: on you. But I'll tell you what though, this is

689
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: a physical s ob. I mean this guy, will you

690
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: tell talk about run to the football, play with his hands,

691
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: physical take on. He can redirect Dane's Ryan. He can

692
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: cover too, That's the thing. I mean. You watch him play,

693
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: and you know you talk about guys that don't come

694
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: off the field. This cat doesn't come off the field.

695
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, keep an eye to Vy Number thirty one

696
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: from Hawaii. Hey, yes, because this is why people listen

697
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: to this show in the first place. Let me tell you.

698
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Let let me tell you a guy, and maybe Dane

699
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: will disagree with but I think this guy is going

700
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: to rise up to charts when it's all said and done.

701
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm wrong about where he is right now,

702
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: read the name. We'll see. I just want to make

703
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: sure I will find the name I was considering another player.

704
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: We'll see us. Okay, this is who it is, Riley Ridley.

705
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: That's who it is. Are we really calling him ascending player?

706
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: Like everybody knows Riley Ridley. But but in the in

707
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of where everybody is, where they're ranking

708
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: these receivers, he's getting slept on. Oh I think everybody's

709
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: sleeping on this guy a little bit. I think people

710
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: know him because his last name is Ridley. Yeah. Yeah,

711
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: anybody played at a name program at Georgia, you know

712
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: me career yards he had at Georgia like a thousand well,

713
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: because he really only came on in his final year there,

714
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: which I guess goes to your point that you watch

715
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: the National championship game two years ago because Alabama, Yeah, yeah,

716
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: watch that. But but you can watch this game, watch

717
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: lsu Vandy tennis seems and he just makes plays. He's

718
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: a I mean, he made my top fifty list. He's

719
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: I mean, we're he's not a secret. He's not looking.

720
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you look at all the other

721
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: wide receivers in this thing, I mean, I don't think

722
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: people you okay, you're right, which, okay, I should you know,

723
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: the conversation is ascending and not under the radar. Right,

724
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: He's not under the radar. When it's all said done,

725
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: he could he be one of the top three wide

726
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: receivers in this draft. Oh absolutely, yeah. Well, because this

727
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: this draft and we've talked about wide receivers, I don't

728
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: have a first round one right now. By the way,

729
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: I think the highest guy on my list music to

730
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: my ears, Yeah, highest guy in my list is twenty

731
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: three overall or something. I mean, you know, but I

732
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: went I Metcalf Harmon Marquis Browne. It's gonna be I'm

733
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: telling you, Mattcalf went to old Miss Marcus brown Is, Oklahoma.

734
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna get the other guy. We're gonna get filled

735
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: with harm Okay, I don't know that one. We're just

736
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: trying to keep people up to speak. Here's the thing

737
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: with these wide receivers is, by the way, Deebo Samuel

738
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: just caught a ball for the about wide receiver South Carolina.

739
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: We're talk about him in a minute. So I had

740
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: a nice day, yes, straight, by the way too, he did.

741
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: He did. He's kind of jostling with India Isabella to

742
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: be the top receiver here. Uh lost my train of thought.

743
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: Wide receivers at the top. That's why I'm talking. I

744
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: talked to a lot of people down here, and when

745
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: wide receivers come up. When we talked about Marcus Brown,

746
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: some have said he's going top fifteen, right, He's going

747
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: high Hollywood, right, Yeah, and he like a d D clone,

748
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: doesn't he weigh like one hundred and fifty pounds one

749
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five. Oh, but top fifteen? John Ross

750
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: went nine. How that work out? Not very well? People

751
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: don't learn from mistakes. No, people look at that and say,

752
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: don't watch his day. Yeah, don't bust my team to

753
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Bengals Bengal fans, that's at DP Brugler. By the way,

754
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: I said, what teams will say, that's stay on target.

755
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: But all right, back to mine what I was saying,

756
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: Deshaun or some look at the see DeShawn Jackson, He's

757
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: going top fifteen. Others look at him and say the

758
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: size one hundred seventy five, the durability, he's the second

759
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: round pick. A lot of different opinions. DK metcalf six four,

760
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pounds, four four speed, a freak show. Uh,

761
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: he's going to go top fifteen, while others say a

762
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: couple big injuries. He's still second round, you know. So

763
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: there's so many different opinions on these wide receivers, no consensus,

764
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: and it's anyone's guess when the first one is gonna

765
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: come off. Foard. Yeah, I keep an eye on Dylan

766
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: Mitchell by the way, from way he's in Nelson, Agalore. Clone. Yeah,

767
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: there you go, there you go real quick before we

768
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: do this next. But I'm just I'll combine these into

769
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: two because they're the same thing. Essential job on new

770
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: players or something. Tyler Tyler wants a round projection ish

771
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: on Debo, the South Carolina receiver who's here in Mobile.

772
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: And then Christian wants the same thing for Anthony Johnson,

773
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: the guy out of Buffalo who's here this week. So

774
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: just kind of where do you think those two stack

775
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: up in the You got a ballpark on the old board.

776
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: You know. Coming into the year, I thought Deebo I

777
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: have not seen him yet. I don't, okay, based on

778
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: his junior stuff and well, because he missed most of

779
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: last year with a broken leg or ankle, and so

780
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: he missed like almost all of last year. But going

781
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: based on off his tape from previously, when I watched

782
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: over the summer, I gave him a late first round grade.

783
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: I loved him. I thought he could be a big

784
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: time player. Then this year you could tell he spent

785
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: a lot of this year and knocking the rust off,

786
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: you know, trying to regain his old form that he

787
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: showed as an underclassman, and we finally started to see

788
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: it down the stretch. We're seeing it some here. So

789
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big fan of what Deebo Samuel

790
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: could be. I think he's one of the best yards

791
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: after catch receivers in this draft. Aft He's a playmaker

792
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: in that regard. What's his long speed? Um is he

793
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: guy's gonna be easily separate down the field. He did

794
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: yesterday a couple of times against Rock Your Sin sure.

795
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: I thought he had a pretty good opening practice. So

796
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: Debo right now, I put him in say the forty

797
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: to seventy five range, And I know that's kind of

798
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: a big range. But you know, when we talked about

799
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: these receivers, there's different opinions on them. And you know

800
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: what's what's Debo's role? Is he a slot guy? Is

801
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: he an outside guy? How did you know? Teams are

802
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: kind of split on what his role is, what his

803
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: best fit is. And so I think there's a wide

804
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: variance of where he could go. And if he went

805
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: forty first, wouldn't surprise me. He goes seventy second, wouldn't

806
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: surprise me. So I think he's in that in that

807
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: room range. And then Anthony Johnson, I'll tell you, I

808
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: hate to just boil it down to a forty yard dash,

809
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: but forty or dash is gonna be important for Anthony Johnson.

810
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: I think he might be the most polished receiver here

811
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: just with his understanding of timing and routes and how

812
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: to work back to the quarterback and you know, really

813
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: help out his quarterback. But how fast is he is

814
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: he gonna be separate, maybe maybe worse. And so there's

815
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: a lot to like Anthony Johnson. Jadeveon Clowney's cousin, by

816
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: the way, um and he's got u uh Jadeveon Clowney

817
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: his cousin. And he's not the guy that went to

818
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Yeah. Hey, well and he he he grew

819
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: up in South Carolina, didn't have the grades, went to Juco,

820
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: went to another Juco, was supposed to go to Oklahoma

821
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: State and then that didn't work out and because of grades,

822
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: and then went to Buffalo. So he's had a little

823
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: winding career, but the last two years he's been outstanding. Uh,

824
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, the best mac receiver, one of the best

825
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: receivers and in college football. So he's had a good

826
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: week here so far. And eager to see how he

827
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: tests because that could have an influence about how high

828
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: he's graded and where he ends up going. But he's

829
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: he's a day two player. It's just a matter of

830
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: where on day two. Yeah, you know. The thing with

831
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: Anthony Johnson though, to me, is that I saw a

832
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: guy that did a really good job of tracking the ball. Yeah,

833
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and and you're right, I think

834
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: he's got some He's physical with the ball in his hands,

835
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: he's he could be a little nifty if he has to,

836
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: but he doesn't give up on routes. That's where I was.

837
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I I was. You know, sometimes guys get

838
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: frustrated when they run routes, and he didn't look like he.

839
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: He just keeps working, you know, and and you know

840
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Speaker 1: if Cardell ever makes a Pro Bowl. So he's looking

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932
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have an early show before the practices again

935
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Speaker 1: tomorrow kind of set the table for what we expect

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Speaker 1: to see as we get ready for practice. I teased

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Speaker 1: about and by the way, too, thanks everybody. It's joining

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Speaker 1: you guys. Love to go back through see the interaction

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Speaker 1: that Kin always puts out information what we got doing,

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Speaker 1: and then it kind of keeps what we're gonna keep

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Speaker 1: again the one one time a week show. It'll be

946
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Speaker 1: every Thursday until we get to April, and then we'll

947
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Speaker 1: make adjustments for what we have to do. So but

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Speaker 1: again thanks everybody around the world. Uh. By the way,

949
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Speaker 1: we had a question came from Yeah, Copenhagen, Denmark. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which the guy he wanted to talk about. It's not here.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean we can't talk. Okay, Well, let's get

952
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: to that. I mean we'll get to that at a point.

953
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Speaker 1: I want to get his question answered though right now

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Speaker 1: we got well we got I don't want to get

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Speaker 1: on his quarterbacks. But I'm feeling good about everybody around

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Speaker 1: the world. I just love Danish people. In the draft

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Speaker 1: show Danish peep Uh. He wanted to know about Halte

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Speaker 1: fro Holt. I hope that I know Arkansas offensive lineman Danish.

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Speaker 1: So I get. I get why he wanted to hear.

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Speaker 1: You're about to give me a scouting report of the scar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course he is. I mean he played at Arkansas.

962
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Speaker 1: I knew Dane would know him good. He Um grew

963
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Speaker 1: up playing rugby, started to getting interested in football, and

964
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Speaker 1: he came over to the States when he's a sophomore

965
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Speaker 1: in high school. Played at Warren G. Hording High School.

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm from, That's where you're from. Played there

967
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Speaker 1: one year. He played with James Daniels Leshaun Daniels Um

968
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Speaker 1: and then there's some kind of rule where you can

969
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Speaker 1: only play one year if you're overseas player, foreign exchange student,

970
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Speaker 1: you can only play one year at high school. So

971
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Speaker 1: he went back to Denmark for his junior year, then

972
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Speaker 1: went back to the States for a senior year, played

973
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Speaker 1: in Florida and went to Arkansas. He had all types

974
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Speaker 1: of recruiting offers. Goes to Arkansas, he was a you know,

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Speaker 1: a three year starter at Love Guard. Really athletic guy.

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Speaker 1: He moves really well. Love the body can roll. M

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Speaker 1: He needs to get better with some technique issues, some

978
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Speaker 1: power issues. But he was at the NFLPA game. Honestly,

979
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised he's not here. I thought he was worthy

980
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Speaker 1: of a Senior Bowl invite. I think he's a mid

981
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Speaker 1: round pick and a guy who might be talking about

982
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Speaker 1: as sending players. He might be one of them. Okay,

983
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Speaker 1: one more time for me. Yellda frohold yelled ye. People

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Speaker 1: in Denmark listening to the draft show, I love it.

985
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Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all. It looks like you got a little

986
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Speaker 1: nine on seven going on here from the practice at

987
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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Again, they're inside today, we're unfortunately we're

988
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Speaker 1: not there watching. We will be tomorrow though, And uh,

989
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get into a little bit again. We're

990
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Speaker 1: trying to be a full service show here, you know.

991
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: And and the Cowboys don't have a first round pick.

992
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, they drafted a quarterback last year, you know,

993
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Speaker 1: with Mike White, who I really really liked. I'd like

994
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: to see Mike White develop a little bit. But talk

995
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks, the class in general, Dan just to class.

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00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: You know, the very first show we talked about, uh,

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Speaker 1: the Oklahoma kit and where and where he might fit,

998
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Kyler Kyler Murray, where he might fit. But where where

999
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: where does some of these other quarterbacks fit? You know?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's the first team that's gonna possibly look

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Speaker 1: at a quarterback at six with the Giants. Is that

1002
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Speaker 1: where this thing is gonna start? Trades? Well, history tells

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Speaker 1: us a quarterback's going top five. Okay, you know we've

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Speaker 1: talked about that um last twenty years. Only twenty thirteen

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Speaker 1: a quarterback wasn't draft the top five. So good chance

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Speaker 1: we see a trade up into the top five so

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Speaker 1: a team can secure the quarterback they want. And Dwayne

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Speaker 1: Haskins from Ohio State is the favorite to be the

1009
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Speaker 1: first quarterback drafted. But after that, Okay, who's gonna be

1010
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: the next quarterback drafted? If Haskins goes is the first

1011
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 1: quarterback drafted? Daniel Jones Drew Locke both, Yeah, you know, neither.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're amazing in the first first practice, But

1013
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Speaker 1: like I said, i'd like to Jones to a couple

1014
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Speaker 1: of interceptions this morning. Yeah, I hate to you know,

1015
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: drill him too much. But we'll get the tape and

1016
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Speaker 1: see how we did, and then tomorrow on Thursday's tape,

1017
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: practice will see how he did. But I think the

1018
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1019
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's a wild card in there. But if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for a quarterback outside the first round, that's when

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Speaker 1: Okay will grew in the second who he's like a

1022
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Speaker 1: rhythm passer. When he finds his rhythm, he's deadly. But

1023
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Speaker 1: if he doesn't find that rhythm, you see decisions that

1024
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Speaker 1: you're just kind of scratching your head, like, what's you

1025
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Speaker 1: thinking there? He's throwing into double coverage, He's not I

1026
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Speaker 1: mean staring down the receiver, not even bothering the you know,

1027
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Speaker 1: look at the safety who easily cuts off the route.

1028
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Speaker 1: You know, it's just there's so many things about you

1029
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Speaker 1: just kind of wonder about his decision making. And that's

1030
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Speaker 1: why we're talking about him as a second rounder, not

1031
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Speaker 1: a first rounder. Howboat Jared Stidham from all Ye who

1032
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Speaker 1: Redchard junior graduated to he's able to be here Baylor transfer.

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Speaker 1: He was Art Brile's big recruit. And then with everything

1034
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1035
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Speaker 1: actually didn't go well. He took classes at Duco, didn't play,

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Speaker 1: actually played with a high school team, you know, as

1037
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Speaker 1: a scout team quarterback to stay fresh. Goes Auburn the

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Speaker 1: last two years, and I'll tell you what, watching him

1039
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Speaker 1: last year when the Iron Bowl with kerry On Johnson

1040
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Speaker 1: as his running back, you get excited about jared'stidham, about

1041
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: what he could be at the next level. It's fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was like the guy that people He

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Speaker 1: was a guy that people were pegging him as a

1044
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Speaker 1: top ten pick, probably going back to Baylor. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he maintained the hype at Auburn,

1046
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Speaker 1: but yeah, he's uh, you know you I think when

1047
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Speaker 1: you look at him in that Auburn offense, that elementary

1048
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: third grade offense that Auburn runs, I think that's a

1049
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: culprit here because it just holds him back. And so

1050
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: um that's why the Senior Bowl is so big for

1051
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: a guy like that, to see him unleash that arm,

1052
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: to see him kind of break open from the uh,

1053
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, that Auburn offense that kind of held him back.

1054
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 1: So the Senior Bowl tape would be big for Jared's

1055
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: Didham and how he looks throughout the process, because he's

1056
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: much better pro than I think what he put on

1057
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: tape this year. Um, it's just a matter of how

1058
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, where do you take it? Go? Better

1059
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: prospecting a guy who came into Senior Bowl several years

1060
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: like a three years ago, Dak Prescott better better prospect? Then?

1061
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: Good question. The problem with I think when you look

1062
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: at Stidham, you think, Okay, he's got some upside that

1063
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: he was of the proa of the of the game. Yeah,

1064
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: sure was. But with Dak it was more like, you know,

1065
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: he kind of is who he is. It's just will

1066
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 1: it well that his style work right? You know, like

1067
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: he's he's really mobile, he's got a strong arm. It's

1068
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: just is his accuracy good enough where it's going to

1069
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: translate to pro defenses? And that's why you know it

1070
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: fell to the fourth rounds while the Cowboys almost to

1071
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: Connor Cook over him. Sure, but so you're saying, you're

1072
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: saying Stidham could be a completely different guy at the

1073
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: next level. Yeah, I think he could be a much

1074
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: better pro than what we saw in college, which I

1075
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: mean I think, I think what you just said is

1076
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: true for good and for bad, Like Dak is who

1077
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: he is, and obviously it's worked. It's obviously why plenty

1078
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: of people still aren't satisfied with what he's put on. So, yeah,

1079
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: interesting where Stidham, you're buying, You're drafting him into the

1080
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: fourth round. You're buying into that potential upside that he

1081
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: might be good once we get our hands on him.

1082
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: You know, we're going to be able to develop him

1083
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: into his full potential. Where at ourburn we saw, you know,

1084
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: just a fraction of what he could be. Yeah, is

1085
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: every okay? So we just mentioned, you know, the Haskins, Murray, Locke, Jones, Greer, Stidham.

1086
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 1: You know how many of those six are gone by

1087
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: the end of the second round. I think that Haskins, Jones, Locke, Murray,

1088
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: and Greer for sure are gone by fifty eight. Okay,

1089
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: then we are still a long long way to go.

1090
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: Who knows, but I'd say for sure those five are

1091
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: off the board after that. That might be it. I mean,

1092
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: it might be the only five that are off the

1093
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: board at that point. I think, you know, if someone

1094
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: absolutely falls in love with like a Tyree Jackson, you know,

1095
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: like maybe that could happen, but I think it's more

1096
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: likely we see Tyree Jackson. Ryan Finley from NC State,

1097
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: who's also there's another guy. Yeah, we're two about Ryan

1098
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: Finley though, I mean there's a there's a guy that

1099
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: he honestly fell kind of off at the end of

1100
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: the year. Fell off the a lot of things going

1101
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: on there. We didn't have coaching changes and stuff like that.

1102
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: North Carolina State or not. They played Texas A and

1103
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: M in that bowl game and it just yeah, exactly,

1104
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 1: I felt like there were some issues there with North

1105
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: But well, I'll tell you what, yesterday at practice, Ryan

1106
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: Finley might have been the most consistent quarterback. Um. You know,

1107
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: he nothing about him wows you, but he's really consistent.

1108
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: You know. He reminds me Ofn't. Look, I'm not saying

1109
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna win Super Bowl MVP one day, but he's

1110
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: got a lot of Nick Foles. When Nick Foles is

1111
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: coming out of Arizona, you know, just not a great athlete,

1112
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: but a good athlete. Uh can move around a little bit.

1113
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a power arm, but he has a

1114
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: good arm. Uh. Nothing about him physically blows you away.

1115
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: But he's just really consistent. He understands the play design,

1116
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: where to go with the ball. Um and I think

1117
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: Nick Foles is much better now than when he was

1118
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: coming out of Arizona, but kind of with this kid. Uh,

1119
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: and he's he's an older guy. He's gonna be twenty

1120
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: five is rookie year. Um he started up boys, he

1121
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: stay eight, got hurt. Mark Rippin, who also in this

1122
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: draft class, last four years starting at Boise State, took

1123
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: his job the offensive coordinator at Boise went to NC

1124
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: State to be the offensive coordinators so Ryan Finley followed him.

1125
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: And Ryan Finley started the last three years for NC

1126
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: State and had a really good career, throwing to Kelvin

1127
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: Harmon and Jacobe Myers, another nc State wide receiver who

1128
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: is here. So you know, I think Ryan Finley at

1129
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: the worst can be a solid backup in this league

1130
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: and a guy that you might be able to rely

1131
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: on the step in and start games if you need

1132
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: him too. But again we're talking about him as a

1133
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: maybe a third rounder. Yeah, I'm just fat. I mean,

1134
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: I'm going off the top of my head, but this

1135
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: feels like the least amount of fanfare that a quarterback

1136
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: class has had probably in the time we've been doing

1137
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: the Draft show. You think back to fourteen with Bordles

1138
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: and mom Teddy Bridgewater. You know, sixteen is obviously dominated

1139
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: by Goff and Wentz and Paxton Lynch two years go out.

1140
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: You know, the names were there, Mahomes, Watson, but like

1141
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: I don't we weren't sold or no one was sold

1142
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: on them as being guys, you know, and and heck

1143
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: the only one that went top well, I guess Mahomes

1144
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: went ten, but Trubisky went on a second h Watson

1145
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: went twelve, So you know that was a weird Keiser

1146
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: was being talked about in the first round. I mean,

1147
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: it's crazy to think now, but everybody was pretty shocked

1148
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: when the Chiefs did what they did. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

1149
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I mean, I wish I love.

1150
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I love the draft is a

1151
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: domino effect. If this doesn't happened, then you know how

1152
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the world would be different. Yeah. If

1153
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: the Chiefs don't make that deal, if John Dorsey and

1154
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: Andy Reid don't get a deal done, Pat Mahomes would

1155
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: be a saint. Yeah, he was going at eleven, Wow

1156
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: to the New Orleans Saints and how okay, how does

1157
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: that work? Is Pat Mahomes still on the bench right

1158
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: now behind Drew Brees? Is how would that dynamic? Or

1159
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: after my after one season on the end or of

1160
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: the New Orleans scout team. Yeah, this guy's good. We

1161
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: gotta kid him on the field, Drew, You've been great,

1162
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: but you know we're gonna sudden Drew Brees signs a

1163
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: deal and geez, I meant like Alex Smith did because

1164
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: of Pat mos One pick like that in the world

1165
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: is different, Yeah, you know in terms of you know,

1166
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: the NFL and how that changes the dichotomy of everything though,

1167
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: I guess, And that kind of goes back to the

1168
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: point I was gonna make, is like, even like, even

1169
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: as unsexy as this class sounds like, the quarterbacks dictate

1170
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: the whole draft and they always will. Like it's early,

1171
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: but I just history teaches me that teams are gonna

1172
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: bend over backwards to talk themselves into these guys and

1173
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: that can work out sometimes in the case of Pat

1174
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: Mahomes and other times not so much. Quarterback desperation will

1175
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: not take a year off, never go away. Yeah, it

1176
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: never does. But I gonna be here. I think that's

1177
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: important because it's gonna mold the draft class and how

1178
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: it affects the Cowboys. Not to mention everyone else, but

1179
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: are your top ten? How many offensive players do you have?

1180
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: Is your money? Is your defense? Is this a very

1181
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: heavy defensive draft? Do you feel like I have Jonah

1182
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: Williams at seven? That's the end, that's that's the only

1183
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: that's an amazing to think about that this is I mean,

1184
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: that's everything I've heard is that this is a defense.

1185
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: All these all these teams are thinking offensive, offensive, offense,

1186
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: and it might be what's the great sorry being the

1187
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: neutralize great offense, great defense, great defense. I've got Cody

1188
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: Forward at eleven. But yeah, I mean this is gonna

1189
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: be a strong My first quarterbacks at sixteen, Haskins, Yeah,

1190
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, I've got questions about Haskins. I don't think

1191
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: he's that surefire top pick that people want to make

1192
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: him to be just because he's the top quarterback in

1193
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: his draft. But yeah, no, you're right. If we don't

1194
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: see a running back or a receiver going to top twenty,

1195
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: maybe one of those ioway tight ends get in there. Yeah, um,

1196
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: offensive line always get overdrafted, so we'll see offensive lineman

1197
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: go there. But yeah, it's gonna be dominated by defensive players,

1198
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: especially defensive lineman. Yeah, let me push some offensive players

1199
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: down the board. Why not? Why not? Okay, Well, that's

1200
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: all the time we have today. Again, we're gonna be

1201
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: on in the morning. We'll come up with the time

1202
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: for you. We're gonna do this before practice. Again. We

1203
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: got travel days with everybody involved here and so we

1204
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: want to make sure we get you one final show.

1205
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: We'll be hitting it before the South practice, right, is

1206
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: that gonna be? Is that how to rotate background? So anyway,

1207
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: we'll make sure check out everything on the Draft Show,

1208
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: our Twitter feeds, all that to make sure that you

1209
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: know we'll get you the time when that will be.

1210
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: So for my buddies, David Hellman, Dame Burger, Kent Garrison,

1211
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: Executive producer, I'm Brian Brous. Thanks Skim for join us

1212
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Speaker 1: on the Draft Show. We will see you tomorrow morning

1213
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: from Mobile, Alabama, getting you ready for Thursday practice in

1214
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Take care