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Speaker 1: our podcast with Ryan French from Monday Q. If you
Speaker 1: miss part one, be sure to check it out. We
Speaker 1: dive it a little into Ryan's story and how he
Speaker 1: got started with the Twitter account and website Monday Qualifier info.
Speaker 1: In part two, we take a deep dived instead of
Speaker 1: some of the lesser known qualifiers for the US Open,
Speaker 1: which is up next week. It's crazy how fast it came.
Speaker 1: This new schedule's kind of got major after major, so
Speaker 1: yes US Open essentially week starting this weekend, as we
Speaker 1: get ready for the season's third major championship, you learn
Speaker 1: about some of the guys that hopefully one or two
Speaker 1: of them make a run this weekend. So thanks for
Speaker 1: Ryan to Ryan again and enjoy part two of our conversation.
Speaker 2: I miss a Green for example, I'm already upset. When
Speaker 2: I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 2: And when I find my ball in arid egg Friday Egg,
Speaker 2: the dreaded Frida Egg Friday, Frida Bride egg Lie, I'm
Speaker 2: about ready to run off of the hump. What a what?
Speaker 1: What? It's the sentiment? I think this is like one
Speaker 1: of the most ridiculous things. And this is probably a
Speaker 1: good transition into talking about you know, US Open players
Speaker 1: and section alls that just happened.
Speaker 3: But what's the polls on?
Speaker 1: Like the fact that the web dot Com event of
Speaker 1: web dot com scheduled again last year they didn't have one,
Speaker 1: but the year before they had one. Schedule an opposite
Speaker 1: event of the US Open, like the the National Open,
Speaker 1: the Open where anybody can win in web dot com
Speaker 1: players are now being forced to choose, like do I
Speaker 1: sacrifice a week on the web dot Com Tour to
Speaker 1: play in the US Open or do and it's really
Speaker 1: two weeks because you're playing a thirty six holes on Mondays,
Speaker 1: not really a way to prepare for a you know,
Speaker 1: a web dot com event, but sacrificing you know, web
Speaker 1: tour card, you know, potential PGA tour card versus playing
Speaker 1: in a major championship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I I think it's it's very unfortunate,
Speaker 2: especially because it's the only way to the PJA Tour
Speaker 2: and every start is so valuable. You know. I talked
Speaker 2: to Brian Ritchie on the on the on the range
Speaker 2: at the Chicago event and he's like, he's played. I
Speaker 2: think this week will be a seventh in a row.
Speaker 2: But he's like, hey, I'm whatever. He is ninetieth on
Speaker 2: the money list. He's like, I can't you know, I
Speaker 2: had a twenty, he had like a top twenty the
Speaker 2: week before. He's like, I can't take a week off
Speaker 2: right now, I gotta play. So you make guys choose,
Speaker 2: you know, Canadian guys this this week. You know a
Speaker 2: lot of guys go up there and play. They're missing
Speaker 2: on a week again. So now you're looking at missing
Speaker 2: two weeks. Possibly you get through a sectionals and you're
Speaker 2: a Canadian, you're missing two weeks and it's your only
Speaker 2: way to the tour.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you finished top fifteen in the US Open.
Speaker 1: It doesn't do anything. Yeah, exactly like Andrew Landry that
Speaker 1: happened to a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Exactly. I mean, outside of a top ten, and the
Speaker 2: top ten doesn't really mean much. Now. It could get
Speaker 2: you into the Web playoffs or whatever, but you're already
Speaker 2: a Web member. Like, it's almost impossible to go the
Speaker 2: route of Monday qualifying with no status and get to
Speaker 2: the PGA Tour. Besides money like good money. A top
Speaker 2: fifteen at the US Open is a guy who is
Speaker 2: fiftieth on the Web dot Com Tour. His fifteenth at
Speaker 2: the Web event is way more valuable to him than
Speaker 2: a fifteenth outside of monetary than a fifteenth at the
Speaker 2: US Open.
Speaker 1: I wrote an article about this said, yeah for Aaron Hills,
Speaker 1: but so Jack McGuire.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So Jack McGuire was He was a standout at Floria State.
Speaker 1: He was playing on the Web Tour that year. He
Speaker 1: was one of I think fifteen players that played the
Speaker 1: US Open from the Web Tour yep. Okay, So he
Speaker 1: was the low Web Tour player that week. At the
Speaker 1: US Open, I think he finished like t twenty seven yep.
Speaker 1: And he ends up on the season finishing eighty second
Speaker 1: yep on the money list. So top seventy five get
Speaker 1: into Web Tour finals and have a legit shot at
Speaker 1: their PGA Tour card so he finishes eighty second, and
Speaker 1: I you know, I made the argument, like, you know,
Speaker 1: if he finishes, if he's the low guy of the
Speaker 1: fifteen guys, if you extrapolate that out to a WEB field,
Speaker 1: that's a top ten finish in a WEB event.
Speaker 2: And he literally could be on the PGA Tour because
Speaker 2: he has four good weeks. I mean, Max Homa is
Speaker 2: a perfect example of that. He had a terrible season
Speaker 2: and four good weeks A terrible is too strong word.
Speaker 2: He didn't have a very good season, snuck in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: so that week, you know, potentially cost Jack McGuire a
Speaker 2: PGA Tour card hypothetically.
Speaker 1: And we see it with like Doug Gimbs played really
Speaker 1: well in a couple PGA Tour events, but he didn't
Speaker 1: play the webs those weeks yep. And like, so do
Speaker 1: you think there should be some way for them to share?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sort of points. Yeah, it's gotta be
Speaker 2: some sort of points if you're gonna play events. I mean,
Speaker 2: how is it that you know, Ryan Yep or anybody
Speaker 2: any of the can Indians that are playing this week, Like,
Speaker 2: if he finishes fifteenth, he just beat a way stronger
Speaker 2: field than he would have down at a WEB event,
Speaker 2: So there has to be some sort of points. Now,
Speaker 2: obviously you have to limit it so people just don't
Speaker 2: go play PGA Tour events. But like Canadians are not
Speaker 2: going to give up, or guys are not going to
Speaker 2: give up a chance to play in the US Open
Speaker 2: or the Canadian Open Open. Yeah, it's their national Open.
Speaker 2: Like Ryan can't turn down a chance to go play
Speaker 2: in his National Open for a million dollars, Like he
Speaker 2: just can't do it. So there has to be some
Speaker 2: sort of reward for doing that and making the cut.
Speaker 3: Especially since they're run by the same.
Speaker 2: Organism exactly, and the goal is to.
Speaker 3: Get USGA but like, you know, you're getting fed. They're
Speaker 3: getting fed accident exactly, Like how.
Speaker 2: Are he's not getting Web points exactly? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: it is. You can't ask guys to go play in
Speaker 2: the thirty six hole qualifier, get through, make the cut,
Speaker 2: and then besides mount there's no reward for zero like none.
Speaker 2: It's crazy and actually a penalty because the guys who
Speaker 2: didn't get through are at a WEB event all moving
Speaker 2: ahead of you.
Speaker 1: It kind of like illuminates like the struggle of like
Speaker 1: the you know, the the guy that the grinder is like,
Speaker 1: no coverage.
Speaker 3: But then also the system does no benefits whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, monetarily or you know the system itself. You know
Speaker 2: Kyle Thompson who I interviewed, who's retired and or playing
Speaker 2: this semi retired, mostly retired. It is like, you know,
Speaker 2: I finished fiftieth on the money List. I'd walked into
Speaker 2: a seven eleven. I knew the cashier was making more
Speaker 2: money than I was. Like, you know, he's like, I
Speaker 2: had a family of three. Steve Wheatcroft I just interviewed
Speaker 2: and he's I think he's just okay to say, but
Speaker 2: he's looking for a job currently. Like he said, if
Speaker 2: I found a good job, I would leave. He said,
Speaker 2: I'm at that time they had played four or five events.
Speaker 2: He was like fiftieth on the Moneyless and he's said, Ryan,
Speaker 2: I'm twenty seven. After my bills are paid, I was
Speaker 2: about twenty five thousand dollars in the hole for the year.
Speaker 2: He's like, what job.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm and you're one of the five hundred
Speaker 3: best players.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm one of the right. I'm like one
Speaker 2: of the five hundred best, and my job has cost
Speaker 2: me twenty seven twenty five thousand dollars this year.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting paradigm though, because part of me, like
Speaker 1: on the flip side, thinks that Tiger Woods might be
Speaker 1: the most underpaid athlete in all the world.
Speaker 3: Like you look at the the.
Speaker 1: De economy of like Lebron James makes forty million dollars
Speaker 1: a year and this is like, you know, a cap,
Speaker 1: but like veteran minimum in the NBA is less than
Speaker 1: a million, right, So like Tiger woods en course earnings
Speaker 1: is going to be say six million dollars this year, yes,
Speaker 1: and like the the middle of the road PGA tour
Speaker 1: players making two yeah, like that that's completely out of
Speaker 1: whack too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And I mean there's been tons of that.
Speaker 2: I've looked up a PGA tour player or a guy
Speaker 2: who's like lost his status, and I mean Brian Davis
Speaker 2: would be a perfect example. Like if I said before
Speaker 2: I knew that Brian Davis had fourteen million dollars in
Speaker 2: PGA tour warnings, like how much he has no wins,
Speaker 2: zero wins, he has a European tour win, but like
Speaker 2: how much money has he made? I would have guessed
Speaker 2: five million. I mean you mess. He made fourteen million dollars,
Speaker 2: like it is.
Speaker 1: The ultimate reward against it is a tour. And I
Speaker 1: think Roberto Castro said something fascinating on the podcast was
Speaker 1: like I had I think he's He said something like,
Speaker 1: I think the biggest mistake players make is they get
Speaker 1: on tour and they're like, I'm going to play every week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because what happens is it normalizes the fact that you're
Speaker 1: playing for seven and a half million dollars every single week, yep,
Speaker 1: or seven million dollars every week, and like I have
Speaker 1: to limit my schedule so that that feeling is special
Speaker 1: because then you're you treat it the right way, like
Speaker 1: what an opportunity as opposed to just another week?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Yeah, I mean, uh, Chip McDaniel got through.
Speaker 2: He's one of the few players that a US Open
Speaker 2: could actually mean something. He's uge, Yeah, I mean huge.
Speaker 2: I mean he like just has to make the cut. Yeah.
Speaker 2: If he makes the cut, he has you know, he's
Speaker 2: in web finals, you know. So, but of all the
Speaker 2: other players that don't have met like this is a
Speaker 2: it's a great week from the standpoint of you got
Speaker 2: to get to play in the US Open, But from
Speaker 2: like a career standpoint, it's somewhat meaningless outside of a
Speaker 2: top ten.
Speaker 3: Chip McDaniel's like one of the best stories of Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: He's kind of like TJ Vogel was last year, but
Speaker 1: actually playing well in events.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And his backstory, I mean he tweeted out yesterday.
Speaker 2: I mean he grew up on a nine hole course
Speaker 2: in a tiny little town in Kentucky. I mean the
Speaker 2: fact that he's going to be a PGA tour or
Speaker 2: at least a web dot Com tour member next year
Speaker 2: is pretty crazy. I mean, he went to Kentucky, had
Speaker 2: a good junior but I mean he grew up in
Speaker 2: a tiny little town. I mean he calls it the course.
Speaker 2: He grew up on hick pebble and like, I mean,
Speaker 2: he grew up in a tiny little town. I don't
Speaker 2: it's in King County. I don't know what the town is.
Speaker 3: But like Perry Maxwell, grew up in a tiny town.
Speaker 3: Oh really, there's a nine really.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's why I piqued my interest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's talk about so Chip McDaniel. He's a guy
Speaker 1: he got through sectionals. Yes, what are what are some
Speaker 1: other guys that are are Monday Q sensations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we can watch, uh sure up at a pebble.
Speaker 2: So, I mean the local guy from Chicago, Andy Pope.
Speaker 2: I mean Andy's been at it for a long time.
Speaker 2: He turned pro in two thousand and six. I've heard
Speaker 2: did you know that, like he made a living or
Speaker 2: helped make made a living at Golden Tea. Do you
Speaker 2: know that?
Speaker 1: No? Yeah, so my one of my good college buddies, Yes,
Speaker 1: played as it was number two on Glenbard West.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so like ag yeah, So, I mean he's
Speaker 2: from Glenn Allen obviously, but I heard so I posted
Speaker 2: about Andy, you retweeted it, and a bunch of guys
Speaker 2: sent me some things about Golden Tea. I guess he'd
Speaker 2: have to confirm it. But who's like top five in
Speaker 2: the world on Golden Tea and like help like monetize
Speaker 2: or help support his his playing career.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty crazy story. But I mean he's
Speaker 2: been at it since like two thousand and six. I
Speaker 2: mean he's only you know, he's uh five, he only
Speaker 2: has five PGA tour starts, and four of them are
Speaker 2: the US Open. I mean he's this will be his
Speaker 2: six PGA Tour start and four of them are US opens.
Speaker 2: I mean he's qualified months, he's sectional qualified in four
Speaker 2: of the last five years. It's pretty crazy. He's so
Speaker 2: he's been a pro for two thousand, since two thousand
Speaker 2: and six, been a Q school twelve times.
Speaker 3: Where's he playing right now?
Speaker 2: I mean he doesn't play, you know, he plays floor
Speaker 2: to Florida Mini tours. Yeah, I mean he plays a
Speaker 2: lot of West Florida Golf Tour, Minor League Tour, Florida
Speaker 2: Elite Tour, those kind of places.
Speaker 1: Last time I saw something about Andy Pope was some
Speaker 1: random Golf Channel guy was posting about their club championship
Speaker 1: and Pope one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like Andy Pope. Yeah, so he's Monday.
Speaker 2: I think he musty qualified into one WEB event this year.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean he's playing like small mini tour.
Speaker 1: I think, just like a perfect example of like the
Speaker 1: financial like yes, realities. Yes, like this guy probably knows
Speaker 1: like if he doesn't, if he doesn't play around him,
Speaker 1: he's just gonna hamorrhage cash.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean that's because the mini tours are so
Speaker 2: small now there's no reason to travel. I mean the
Speaker 2: Hooters Tour, you know, a winning check was forty grand,
Speaker 2: so people would come. But now mini tours are so fractured,
Speaker 2: no one gets more than you know, thirty forty. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you get like three grand, Like you're not you might
Speaker 2: as well just stay at home and play small tours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing is like a Canadian tour so expensive,
Speaker 1: Latin American tour so expensive to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're only playing for spots up there.
Speaker 2: You're definitely like burning through cash, even the web tour. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean for sure. I mean I stayed at Ryan's
Speaker 2: house and this was Ryan Yepp's house, and I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, he's like, I'm not making any money. He
Speaker 2: was struggling to like stay afloat. I mean Kyle Thompson
Speaker 2: ed loaher you know, I mean ed Lard's like won
Speaker 2: some events in an Asian He's like, I've burned through
Speaker 2: that cash a long time ago. He's like that's long gone.
Speaker 2: So I mean there's only one place to really play.
Speaker 1: The European Yeah sorry, yeah, yeah, so what uh?
Speaker 2: Who? So shipping down Eric Dietrich is a good story. Eric.
Speaker 2: He got through at Washington, he won by four. He
Speaker 2: played the mckensey Tour the last three. This will be
Speaker 2: his third year. I mean last year he made two
Speaker 2: of ten cuts. His best finish was a T forty seven.
Speaker 2: He made fourteen hundred thirty four dollars and fifty cents
Speaker 2: last year on the McKinsey Tour, so he was probably
Speaker 2: in the whole about twenty grand, twenty five grand. And
Speaker 2: then he went to a minor league tour event at
Speaker 2: the end of last year and shot eighty eight. I
Speaker 2: posted about it. I mean, he had two nines and
Speaker 2: a ten shot eighty eight. Got then at the beginning
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen, got through McKenzie Tour School or Q
Speaker 2: School again for the third time, made the first cut,
Speaker 2: and then shot sixty seven to sixty five or something
Speaker 2: like that yesterday and again. I think that just speaks
Speaker 2: to the talent that is out there. Like this is
Speaker 2: a guy obviously went through some struggles, but like he
Speaker 2: has done nothing as a professional and wins a a
Speaker 2: sectional pretty easily, and it's going to play in the
Speaker 2: in the US Open. I mean, the guy shot eleven
Speaker 2: under one by four.
Speaker 3: And winning by four is the thing. It's not just eleven.
Speaker 2: Right, Eleven under doesn't mean much except when the next
Speaker 2: best score of seven hunderd.
Speaker 1: I think this Cam Young from Wake Forest gonna be
Speaker 1: a really good player. And I saw he was the
Speaker 1: only guy under part is sectional and he got four
Speaker 1: under it and I was like, that's another reason I
Speaker 1: like it. And he was kind of he's like a
Speaker 1: little bit under the radar college stud but like it's
Speaker 1: like another reason to like him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people know
Speaker 2: Nate Ashley's story. I'm Nate Lashley story. I mean his
Speaker 2: parents and girlfriend were killed in a car crash. He
Speaker 2: got through, so you know that's a great story.
Speaker 3: He was like prolific on the Latin American.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he had a pretty outstanding uh. And then
Speaker 2: speaking of of PJA Tours, Colum Terran is a a
Speaker 2: kid from England and you don't hear much about China,
Speaker 2: but his China season last year was one of the
Speaker 2: most remarkable many tour. I mean he won the Order
Speaker 2: of Merit without winning, so he had he made fourteen
Speaker 2: or fourteen cuts. I think his worst finish of the
Speaker 2: year was T twenty nine. I think he had twelve
Speaker 2: top top twenty fives, nine top tens, ten top tens,
Speaker 2: something like that. I mean he won the Order of
Speaker 2: Merit over Charlie Sackson and Charlie sacks Charlie had made
Speaker 2: every cut and had two wins and he still didn't
Speaker 2: win win the money. So he got through. He shot.
Speaker 2: He shot fourteen hunder with two doubles, so I mean
Speaker 2: he's had a decent year on the webd but he
Speaker 2: got through. Another guy, another guy, Guiermo Pira, is from
Speaker 2: Chile and has really struggled in the Latin American Tour
Speaker 2: until this year has had He's made every cut and
Speaker 2: has had like six top tens and eight events. He
Speaker 2: got through. I mean, you know, rub Roberto Castro got
Speaker 2: through Connor Arundel is a is a good story. He
Speaker 2: went over to Europe and really struggled. He's only had
Speaker 2: twenty eight web starts and made eight cuts over here.
Speaker 2: He has one of the He got into nine playoffs
Speaker 2: over a two year span on the web Mondays and
Speaker 2: didn't make one. Oh my god, yes, I think it
Speaker 2: was nine or eight. I mean he would shoot, you know,
Speaker 2: sixty five, sixty six get into a playoff and losing
Speaker 2: a playoff. It was like eight or nine over a
Speaker 2: two year span.
Speaker 3: So that he's had like the worst bad beats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's pretty bad. There's not
Speaker 2: It doesn't get much worse than that. I mean, at
Speaker 2: least if you just go shoot seventy two, you know
Speaker 2: you can you can go home? Yeah, right, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't have it today, right, Like, I mean he
Speaker 2: was six strokes away from having assuming he plays well
Speaker 2: in the thing in the event like web status. I mean,
Speaker 2: so he got through uh t K Kelly unfortunately Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he tweeted about it. Uh doubled the last
Speaker 2: and then and then bogie the I.
Speaker 1: Saw Garber play the last four or four over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in his place, he was I think one shot out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean TK is first alternate, so should he
Speaker 2: has a chance to get it tough?
Speaker 1: He had tough where he I think he finished six
Speaker 1: on the Latin American Tour money list two years ago,
Speaker 1: and it's like he he only got one start on
Speaker 1: the web.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he finished.
Speaker 1: You play on a tour all year long, and this
Speaker 1: is one of the things about it. It is like he
Speaker 1: finished six on the money list, played great. I mean
Speaker 1: he's you know, a couple thousand dollars then, and he's
Speaker 1: got nearly any status.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why they're changing it next year is because,
Speaker 2: I mean, like Charlie Saxon is a perfect example. I
Speaker 2: talked to Charlie at the at the Chicago event. Had
Speaker 2: he not played well at the beginning of the year,
Speaker 2: he could have had no status on the web dot com.
Speaker 2: And he had two wins and made fourteen or fourteen
Speaker 2: cuts in China. He's an all time money leader, all
Speaker 2: time wins leader, and he literally if he didn't play
Speaker 2: well at the beginning of the season, would have had
Speaker 2: virtually no status. I mean, the PGA Tour has to change,
Speaker 2: had to change that. You can't expect guys to go play,
Speaker 2: invest all that money, to go play a full season,
Speaker 2: finish in the top five, and then not give him
Speaker 2: status based on that. I mean, that's insane.
Speaker 1: It's in placing instead more important of three events that
Speaker 1: are played over exactly six week eight week period exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean. Michael Bluticavelli is a you know, it has
Speaker 2: been like really good to the account he won. He
Speaker 2: won the season ending Latin American the Tour Championship and
Speaker 2: end up finishing third on the money list, but his
Speaker 2: stat is stunk. He said in hindsight, I would have
Speaker 2: skipped the Tour Championship, rested and gone to final stage
Speaker 2: because because it's a week before, because it's a week before.
Speaker 2: He's like, I would have just rested and played well
Speaker 2: at final stage in my status would have been way
Speaker 2: better than it is now. He's like, I burned myself out,
Speaker 2: didn't play well, didn't play well at final stage, so
Speaker 2: didn't improve my status any And I'm like behind a
Speaker 2: ton of guys hardly getting into any events.
Speaker 1: And that's the And I think that's the same thing
Speaker 1: that happens too. Like to me, the guy that finishes
Speaker 1: second on the web money list, yeah, or like third, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's way more impressive to me. I've been finishing
Speaker 1: ninetieth on the PGA Tour money list. Yeah, But they
Speaker 1: go in and like, if you don't play well, you're
Speaker 1: you're in over eight weeks, you're sol Like the system
Speaker 1: rewards mediocrity on the PGA Tour, which to me is
Speaker 1: is going to be very detrimental in the long term
Speaker 1: because of the way the game's changing, where the young play.
Speaker 1: These guys they the tour, I don't think there's as
Speaker 1: many twenty, there's no there's not as many twenty year
Speaker 1: superstars anymore because of what's happened with technology golf. We
Speaker 1: did a podcast with an economist that it's like we're
Speaker 1: in this transition period where youth is going to be
Speaker 1: you know, and I think like from the tour standpoint,
Speaker 1: they need a massive overhaul because of like some of
Speaker 1: the best players in the world aren't playing, yes, and
Speaker 1: like Scottie Scheffler is a perfect example right now. How
Speaker 1: could you not say he's one of the one hundred
Speaker 1: best players in the United States right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if he doesn't play, assuming he doesn't win
Speaker 2: the money title on the web dot com, if he
Speaker 2: doesn't play well the first you know, in the fall
Speaker 2: or whatever, he literally could miss a ton of starts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and his card has gone almost instantaneously, assuming he doesn't
Speaker 2: have a great finish in the middle of the year.
Speaker 1: And that's what this news schedule to me is illuminated
Speaker 1: with the PGA tour is like, so we go from
Speaker 1: the PGA, which is a major nobody's getting into, right
Speaker 1: we go to Colonial, which is a limited one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty two person field, and they're giving exemptions to
Speaker 1: to Drew Love and Tucker Watkins guys with no status, right,
Speaker 1: you know, Drew's got conditional status on Canada. Tucker Watkins
Speaker 1: might be playing it might not actually be playing professionals off,
Speaker 1: I think he's working, right, And then and then you
Speaker 1: go from that to Memorial, which is an invite only
Speaker 1: it's like some of these guys haven't played in two months.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Max Homa is a perfect example of
Speaker 2: what I think the tour might miss out on had
Speaker 2: he not Monday qualified into into the Waste Management, played
Speaker 2: well there, then top ten at Genesis, whatever the next
Speaker 2: week's was.
Speaker 3: I think, itis, he's.
Speaker 2: Never winning, and we're missing out on a great story
Speaker 2: and be a great talent obviously, and a great personality
Speaker 2: exactly like the talent that there's a lot of guys
Speaker 2: behind Max Homa that have the same status as Max
Speaker 2: that didn't play well or didn't Monday qualify in I mean,
Speaker 2: he was already at the Waste Management, which is the
Speaker 2: first third of the season, was already at Monday qualifying status.
Speaker 2: And had he not done those things in succession and one,
Speaker 2: we would have never I mean, obviously a lot of
Speaker 2: people know about Max, but not to the extent we
Speaker 2: know about him now because like we didn't get to
Speaker 2: excess there's a lot of fans who didn't know Max
Speaker 2: prior to his win and didn't get to see that personality.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of guys who don't have status
Speaker 2: even though they top twenty five money list on the
Speaker 2: Web last year.
Speaker 1: It's an interesting it's a dilemma that golf has because
Speaker 1: it seems to me, like twenty guys or that get
Speaker 1: all the vacuum. It's like the vacuum and like that
Speaker 1: that's also like detrimental to the game because like, I mean,
Speaker 1: how many NBA players can an NBA fan rattle off? Yep, hundreds, Yes,
Speaker 1: like I could rattle off hundreds of NBA players yep,
Speaker 1: But like for average for a regular PGA Tour fan, right,
Speaker 1: like they only care about twenty people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know. It was kind of uh.
Speaker 2: Keith Mitchell was a perfect example. Like they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's a nobody, Like he's had a pretty good career,
Speaker 2: like like he didn't get through Q school, went to
Speaker 2: the Latin American Tour, played really well, went to the Web,
Speaker 2: played pretty well, and got in the PGA Tour. One
Speaker 2: he's not in the top.
Speaker 3: Ten like he mondayed into valspar top ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean he's not like that's a guy
Speaker 2: who's a really good player who a lot of people
Speaker 2: saw his succession is that would end up where he's
Speaker 2: ended up.
Speaker 3: Like, what's amazing.
Speaker 1: I was looking the other day his caddy Crunchy Pete
Speaker 1: has more Twitter followers than he does he's a PGA
Speaker 1: Tour winner.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean that's I think think that the tour,
Speaker 2: the Champions Tour especially or like a lot all the
Speaker 2: tours need to like focus on the story of these
Speaker 2: guys and how talented they are and the struggle that
Speaker 2: is their reality, because I think it's a human interest
Speaker 2: story and I think it humanizes these guys more than
Speaker 2: what people think pro golf is. Like it's not private
Speaker 2: jets and caddies that travel with you and those kind
Speaker 2: of things. It's guys who are broke, flat broke. Well.
Speaker 1: I think like that's like the Max Homa thing is
Speaker 1: a perfect exact I think he tweeted out right after
Speaker 1: he wins, he wins one point two million dollars, yes,
Speaker 1: and he's flying coach yep, right after he wins. But
Speaker 1: like that's a perfect guy that understands like I mean,
Speaker 1: he played an entire season on the PGA Tour and
Speaker 1: made nine thousand dollars, and like, you know, the the
Speaker 1: young guys that make it out there right away, like
Speaker 1: you see it every like Grayson Murray bought uh Or
Speaker 1: Maserati and like to her, players are like what are
Speaker 1: you doing?
Speaker 3: Like you know, the instant success.
Speaker 1: They don't have the perspective that Max Homa has, where
Speaker 1: Max home is so much more relatable to an everyday
Speaker 1: guy because he's gone through a lot of shit.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah. And and I mean I think from a
Speaker 2: marketing standpoint, people think of golf as an elitist sport,
Speaker 2: whereas there's, especially in the professional game, such a large
Speaker 2: majority of players that are definitely not I mean, I
Speaker 2: had a guy staying with me in a pony room,
Speaker 2: so that is like, it's not an elitist sport. It's
Speaker 2: guys who are ultra talented, who've come from places like
Speaker 2: Ball State or like South Florida, you know, a small
Speaker 2: universities who are just trying to make a living. And
Speaker 2: I think it makes him much more relatable on a
Speaker 2: human level and helps the game. Not that you shouldn't
Speaker 2: market Tiger Woods and all those guys. Obviously he could,
Speaker 2: but there's another large element of the game that's not
Speaker 2: being covered.
Speaker 1: I mean that I was unbelievably like astonished at Ben
Speaker 1: Silverman's story. And I didn't know anything about Ben Silverman
Speaker 1: and I do a little research. You didn't start playing
Speaker 1: golf till he was seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he shot one hundred cooking school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but golf at a cooking university.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He shot one hundred and eighteen as a junior
Speaker 2: or senior in high school at a at a junior event.
Speaker 2: I mean, like he's he's a long of long shots.
Speaker 1: He said right after each told it, right, you start
Speaker 1: playing golf, I'm gonna play professional golf, yeah, like you
Speaker 1: used to start playing at sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean how many people must have told the
Speaker 2: guy he's crazy? Yeah? Yeah, Because I mean he's the
Speaker 2: guy who I've run into is like I'm going to
Speaker 2: play pro golf and like, oh no, you're not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's like so, like, you know, the ability
Speaker 3: with golf.
Speaker 1: I think one of the unique things is like you see,
Speaker 1: like Zach Johnson played golf at Drake Yep.
Speaker 2: You know, Adam.
Speaker 3: Spenson played Division two golf.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ben Silverman played at a cooking school. Yeah, before he
Speaker 1: went transferred to Florida Atlantic. It's like golf. One of
Speaker 1: the things about golf is like a lot of times
Speaker 1: the campus guy misses and you get these obscure guys
Speaker 1: that like are better stories in a way because they
Speaker 1: came from nowhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean they're I'm always amazed. To your
Speaker 2: point is, I'm always amazed every time I look up
Speaker 2: a player and they're like Barry University or you know.
Speaker 2: I mean I caddied for I talked to two guys
Speaker 2: who played at a Steven M and Zach I can't
Speaker 2: remember Zach's name, but they played at at a junior
Speaker 2: college together. No, it's a Indian Hills is a very
Speaker 2: good community college. But the fact that they had to
Speaker 2: go to a community college in order to go on
Speaker 2: to a four year school, like that's pretty crazy. I
Speaker 2: mean they are, like there's so much depth of talent
Speaker 2: out there that didn't come from the Alabama's, Florida's those
Speaker 2: kind of things. I mean, Joe Gunnerman walked on at
Speaker 2: Tones and State. I mean, it's it's not a golf school,
Speaker 2: it's a it's just a school to play that happens
Speaker 2: to have golf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, what's Uh, we'll get you out of
Speaker 1: here with a couple of quick errors. Who's who's your
Speaker 1: pick for for low low qualifier? You know, non tour
Speaker 1: ron major tour player, uh in in the US Open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's gonna be two guys I think.
Speaker 2: I mean Colin Terran and Chip McDaniel. I mean Chip
Speaker 2: has played really really well this year. Uh, he just
Speaker 2: needs an opportunity, a weekly opportunity to play. But I
Speaker 2: mean he's been in the mix at every Monday. If
Speaker 2: he didn't get through, he played well in Puerto Rico
Speaker 2: top five, made the cut at the Valero. I mean
Speaker 2: Andy has a ton to play for. A made cut
Speaker 2: means you know, he has a place to play regardless
Speaker 2: next year. So and if he plays really well, you'll
Speaker 2: have temporary membership. So I'll go with him or column tern.
Speaker 2: I think Column you know, I had a had a
Speaker 2: great year last year, having a solid WEB season. Uh.
Speaker 3: Nick Hardy could be.
Speaker 2: Nick Hardy very good too.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be one of the best players without status.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very very true. And he's played well in Mondays
Speaker 2: and had some bad luck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, third third US opens, Yeah, and he made a
Speaker 1: cut he made the cutout chambers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, he's lost I think twice in Mondays
Speaker 2: for sure, that I know. Yeah, playoffs like next day
Speaker 2: playoffs one of them. Yes, that's rough, that's right, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: And then, uh, what's the what's what's the what's the
Speaker 1: next big thing to look at? I look for from
Speaker 1: the from the Monday Ques perspective.
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, we're gonna do some fun stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: hopefully some podcasts a podcast get going. We gonna have
Speaker 2: some like behind the scenes stuff with I'm going to
Speaker 2: Caddy in an event. We might have miked up things.
Speaker 2: We're gonna follow some players through the year. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think the stories are are always new every week.
Speaker 2: So I appreciate you having me on and look forward
Speaker 2: to doing some more stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for coming on. We'll have to do something
Speaker 1: before like U school or something. Ye do another so
Speaker 1: good people can find you. You're a case of the
Speaker 1: golf one at a case of the golf one on Twitter.
Speaker 2: And in hindsight, in hindsight, head I'd known this would
Speaker 2: be this, I would have taken more time to come
Speaker 2: up with a better handle.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't have named my company after a common food,
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've made my bed now, it's already the ship
Speaker 2: has sailed, so all right.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for coming on and excited to have a
Speaker 1: little more color behind these guys and you
Speaker 2: So thanks man,