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Speaker 1: Coming to you from fabulous Las Vegas. The right side

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Speaker 1: is the winning side. The late move is the correct move.

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Speaker 1: Sports betting capital of the world. We all know when

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Speaker 1: a party for your ears. This is the buffet with

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Speaker 1: Chad and Scooch. I want to buy that guy at buffet.

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Speaker 1: We are back Chad and Scooch together again. This is

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Speaker 1: the buffet with Chad and Scooch from the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman on the phone with me from

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, representing the world leads and all the BOYD

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Speaker 1: gaming sports books in the state of Nevada. Bookmaker Extraordinarire,

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Speaker 1: Bob Scucci. Chad, what's going on, my man? Like the

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Speaker 1: last time we spoke was sports betting had just been declared,

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Speaker 1: you know, not legal, but the Supreme Court had declared

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Speaker 1: the federal band on sports betting unconstitutional, opening the floodgates

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Speaker 1: for any state that wants sports betting to, you know,

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Speaker 1: more than two weeks out or ten days out from

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Speaker 1: that decision. Now two weeks give me your thoughts. What

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Speaker 1: before you talk, I do have to Uh. I did

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Speaker 1: recording this on a Wednesday. The NBA Finals start tomorrow tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: new podcast, asked from the Action Network. Huge debut yesterday, huge, huge,

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Speaker 1: Spread the Floor is such a remarkably good basketball podcast. UM.

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Speaker 1: And so they're both gonna come out and talk NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals and uh, black jackal talk talk about Stanley Cup,

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Speaker 1: Um Scooch. But listen, let's talk about this. Tell me

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not it's not unexpected that the Supreme

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Speaker 1: it's funny, you know, I say like, um, you know

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Speaker 1: our iTunes page, the Buffet Podcast iTunes page. Put your

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Speaker 1: the only way we move up the iTunes rankings charts.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking that, thinking that what is your ambition, Scooch,

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Speaker 1: it was hard to get in. You needed to know

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Speaker 1: somebody at the door. But a lot of friends and

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Speaker 1: people that work at The Orleans were able to kind

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Speaker 1: of jump over there and meet with these guys and

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Speaker 1: have a beer with these guys, and it was just

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Speaker 1: they said, what what a great, great group of guys.

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Speaker 1: Because a couple of them, or at least one player

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Speaker 1: that used to play for the Las Vegas Wranglers, which

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Speaker 1: was a team that played right at the Orleans Arena.

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Speaker 1: So he knows the property well and he kind of

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Speaker 1: knows that that area, so he still has a little

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Speaker 1: fondness for it. That is so cool. Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: We still got to talk about the NBA Finals. Okay,

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Speaker 1: First of all, that Game seven for the Rockets and

440
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Speaker 1: the Warriors, twenty seven missed three pointers. Yeah, that was insane.

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Speaker 1: What what did you need in that game? Did you

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Speaker 1: need the Rockets and the under so or did you

443
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Speaker 1: need like so it ended up sort of fine for

444
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Speaker 1: you because you had the under, but you lost the spread. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we needed we needed the Rockets in that line. If

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Speaker 1: you saw the line move, I mean it was Chris Paul,

447
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: it was He's questionable most of the day, and so

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Speaker 1: we've tried to be on the high side with the

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Speaker 1: With the Warriors, we went as high as seven. At

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Speaker 1: one point, the line opened up four and a half.

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Speaker 1: In some places we opened it up five and a half.

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Speaker 1: We went as high as seven on the game, and

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Speaker 1: then we saw a lot of sharp money coming in

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Speaker 1: just burying us on the Rockets, and I knew that

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Speaker 1: we would need the Rockets. So I was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: just keep taking the money, let's not move, let's not

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Speaker 1: get crazy with the point spread. But they just kept

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Speaker 1: coming in, coming in on the Rockets, so I had

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Speaker 1: to move the line down. And then we're thinking, okay,

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Speaker 1: that maybe they know that Chris Paul's playing, so let's

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Speaker 1: respect that because we didn't hear that he's playing. So

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Speaker 1: we said, let's let's move the line down based on

463
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Speaker 1: that maybe they know something we don't. So we did

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Speaker 1: move the line down, and then when it came out

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Speaker 1: that he's not playing, I just moved it right back

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Speaker 1: up and said I'm staying there. I'm staying high. And

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Speaker 1: it was the same night, like I said, as the

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Speaker 1: Golden Nights, So every single parlay had Warriors, Golden Nights, Warriors,

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Speaker 1: Golden Knights. And we didn't have a good day in

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Speaker 1: baseball that that day either, So we had all the

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Speaker 1: favorites in baseball going to the Golden Knights and the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we needed the Rockets. We needed them big,

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Speaker 1: and the only thing that saved us a little bit

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Speaker 1: was the game going under. Uh but then what a

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Speaker 1: swing in that game. And I remember, you know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of the in progress lines that we were doing.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Warriors were down to twelve, thirteen, fourteen

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Speaker 1: points at one point, and I said, don't give any

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Speaker 1: more value on the Warriors. Uh, you know, you could

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Speaker 1: have gotten the Warriors at plus four and a half

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Speaker 1: at one point during the game when they were down

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Speaker 1: like ten points. And uh, I just know I've seen

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Speaker 1: these swings before. I said, you've got a whole half

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Speaker 1: of the basketball to play, and and this team can

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Speaker 1: put up a twenty spot like you know, in the

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Speaker 1: blink of an eye. So uh, yeah, it was the

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Speaker 1: betting was good, and uh we were on the wrong

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Speaker 1: end of it. But uh, you know, hopefully we get

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Speaker 1: them back in the finals. All right, So what do

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Speaker 1: you think is gonna happen in the finals? You open

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Speaker 1: the Warriors huge favorites in the finals, You open the

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Speaker 1: Warriors huge favorites in game one. Tell me where the

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Speaker 1: action has been coming so far? So far, it's been, uh,

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Speaker 1: mostly mostly Warriors. But I think it's going to turn around.

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Speaker 1: And every time you get to a finals or a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl or an n C Double, a championship game,

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Speaker 1: there's been a tendency amongst the recreational betters to just

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Speaker 1: take the underdog, and they just figured the team is

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Speaker 1: good enough to get to the championship or get to

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Speaker 1: the finals. I'll take the points. So again, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to try and be too crazy. Uh, like you said,

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Speaker 1: historic numbers in an NBA Championship game, twelve and a

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Speaker 1: half that's a lot of points. So, uh, that's a

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00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: crazy amount of it really is. And we've already seen

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Speaker 1: all of the public is jumping all over the Calves

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Speaker 1: to win the series because they could have gotten eight

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Speaker 1: to one, seven to one. We're down to the six

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Speaker 1: to one now with the Calves. You know that the

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Speaker 1: series prices, uh the war years of minus eight. I

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Speaker 1: mean they're an eight to one favorite, and then you

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Speaker 1: can get plus six to one on the Cavaliers. So

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Speaker 1: everyone's bet all the recreational betters are betting that the

513
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: sharp guys really having come in on that that yet.

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Speaker 1: But I think the value is all over the Calves.

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Speaker 1: You know, whether or not they actually win the game

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Speaker 1: is another story. But twelve and a half points. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get buried on Calves money, you are,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Look, the public is gonna come

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00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: all in on the Warriors. You might get wise guy money,

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Speaker 1: but the public is coming in on the Warriors. They

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Speaker 1: are not going to touch the calves. The Warriors are juggernauts.

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Speaker 1: They are going for three out of the past four years.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, if I look at the

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Speaker 1: Action app uh, you know, we are part of the

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Speaker 1: Action networking until forget Stay tuned. Coming up in a

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Speaker 1: few minutes, black Jack Fletch Live from Vegas New hosted

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Speaker 1: the New Pod Live from the Strip. Matt Moore are

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Speaker 1: NBA analysts. He's gonna come on, He's gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: this game as well. Right now, fifty two percent of

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Speaker 1: the bets are on Golden State to cover. Well, wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's a lot closer than uh, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry to cover not yet to cover the cover the spread. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I guess that's about right. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at our ticket account. We're right about there. But I

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00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: do think our guys are going to take a shot

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Speaker 1: with with with the Cavaliers. But you know, well, we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens. Maybe maybe the lines right where it

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Speaker 1: should be, and maybe the bets is exactly what it

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Speaker 1: should end up at. I don't know what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 1: It's so hard to bet against the Warriors. I did

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Speaker 1: it so many times during these playoffs on the Rockets,

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Speaker 1: and I'd be feeling so good in the first half

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00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: and then just get my like I would my lungs

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00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: would deflate, as you say, like I would need them

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Speaker 1: for my lungs in that third quarter, and it would

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00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: be so ugly. Yeah. And when a team just shoots

547
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: as many three pointers as they as they do, you

548
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: get those big swings because if they're if they're not following,

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Speaker 1: then then you get down really quickly. And but then

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Speaker 1: if they if they are sinking them, then you know,

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00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: they put up twenty points like in a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: So uh, you do get those those big swings. I mean, uh,

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00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: this this NBA playoff season has been really interesting in

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Speaker 1: terms of you know, I look back at the Calves

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00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: and the Celtics series and all the blowouts both ways.

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Speaker 1: You know, this team looks so much better than this team,

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Speaker 1: and then they go back to Boston and all, now

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00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: Boston looks so much better than the Calves, and they

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Speaker 1: go back to Cleveland and it's just it's these big

560
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: seesaw swings and and even game by game you're seeing

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Speaker 1: these big swings, so it's really making it interesting. And uh,

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Speaker 1: and I think going back to what you said earlier

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Speaker 1: about now with with betting being more pervasive around the

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Speaker 1: country and are able to talk about the point spreads,

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00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: and it gives the games a little bit more perspective.

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Speaker 1: So when you see a game like the Warriors and

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Speaker 1: the Calves talking about how big of a favorite and

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00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: it's a little adds a little drama to the to

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Speaker 1: the series now because now you know how really big

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00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: of an underdog the Calves are, and so I think

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00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: that is a little bit more flavor to the matchup. Yeah,

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00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: it's exciting. I mean certainly, look, as you know, as

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Speaker 1: I know, we've long been advocates that you let people

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Speaker 1: bet and there will be more engagement and excitement for

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Speaker 1: fans who are watching these games and they will stick

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00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: around longer. So certainly the point spread is going to

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00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: be a storyline during this game, like can they keep

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Speaker 1: it close? Do they stay within the twelve and a

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00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: half um that's gonna be a major, major narrative for

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Speaker 1: anybody watching this game. And like anybody who's on their

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Speaker 1: second screen, which is a lot of people sort of

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Speaker 1: following this game on Twitter. Uh, that's gonna be a

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00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: constant point of conversation. Yeah, you know what Twitter is, right,

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Speaker 1: I've heard of Twitter. I've heard of it. I think,

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00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: by the way, your dad's on Twitter, he's got more followers.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you. He got like the first day he

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Speaker 1: signed up, he got like two hundred followers or something

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Speaker 1: like that. Something crazy. But then it took a while

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Speaker 1: a little bit for people to realize it wasn't me

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00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: was he was like, what is this? What is this

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00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Twitter thing that I get this followers from? It was funny, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it really was. But I might have to get one

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Speaker 1: of those accounts if I actually, you know, become bookmaker

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Speaker 1: of the world. Yeah, all right, Bob Scucci, good luck

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Speaker 1: this week. Good luck with the Golden Knights, good luck

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00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: with the uh Lebron James versus the Warriors. Um, good

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Speaker 1: luck on your quest for world domination. I would like

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Speaker 1: acknowledgement on my plaque in the Sports Betting Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame that I hope you get there. Thanks, we'll see

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Speaker 1: Black Jack, We're gonna start with you because you're in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: written You've become a huge, huge fan. Yeah, Chah Best,

639
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: It's it's great to be here with you nowhere. I'd

640
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 1: rather be at this this hour of the morning. Um.

641
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: We have Game two today. The atmosphere in the city

642
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: is unlike anything I've ever been around. UM. I wrote

643
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: in the article about Game one that it's it was

644
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: one of the most experiences of my life and one UM.

645
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: I watched him one in the watch party right outside

646
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: the t area. It was about fall falls and other

647
00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: people and it was just pure uberlation. There was I

648
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: mean strangers with their arms around each other. I mean

649
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: literally just everyone was was happy and excited and and

650
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: everyone was experiencing the same range of emotions together, you know,

651
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: because that game was up and down, it was back

652
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: and forth, and every time the capitals was you know,

653
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: like looking at each other and kind of reassure each

654
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: other it was gonna be okay. And that the Knights

655
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: before I don't hunting each other, and it was it's

656
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: it's something you had that. Honestly, I'll be over forget

657
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: a long place. It was. It was a very incredible experience.

658
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: How did you end up becoming a Golden Knights fan?

659
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: This team has taken hold of your heart? Yeah, they

660
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: absolutely have. UM, And the short answer is money. UM.

661
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: They may be a lot of it. Over the course

662
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: of the season, I started getting them a lot, uh,

663
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: And I think I jumped on them earlier than a

664
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: lot of people did because you were getting good value

665
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: on them earli in season. There was a lot of

666
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: good value on this scene. And I've got them now

667
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: forty nine times. There's season Chad, and they're thirty nine intended.

668
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: But that's I've made up. So they've They've made me

669
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: a lot of money. And then I started watching them, um,

670
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, staying up late on East Coast and watching

671
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: the Golden Knights, and they were really exciting being the watcher,

672
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: mean needs to be boring hockey. It's very fast paced

673
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: up and down. And then you know, obviously the whole

674
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: story with with the tragedy. I was here in October

675
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: a few days before their first game, and the way

676
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: that they kind of have helped the city heal a

677
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: little bit, it's uh, it's become you know, one of

678
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: those stories that one day Disney is gonna make a

679
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: movie about. All Right, Matt Moore, let me transition to

680
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: you for a second, in a very uh eloquent, seamless way.

681
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: There is history being made in the NBA Finals, much

682
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: as there is history being made with what with what

683
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: is happening in the Stanley Cup and the Las Vegas

684
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: Golden Knights. Yeah, I did that right now. The Warriors

685
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: are twelve and a half point favorites in game one.

686
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: They are historically high favorites for the series. You wrote

687
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: in one of your stories actually in the newsletter. You

688
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: can go sign up for the newsletter at Action network

689
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: dot com. Uh, it's great, and you did an exclusive

690
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: for the newsletter basically saying there were a few things

691
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: in there that were interesting. Uh. Number one, you've got

692
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: the Warriors winning in five. I can't believe you're giving

693
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: them the game. Um. Number two, you had a note

694
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: in there that there are rumblings in the locker room.

695
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: That's the players are starting to block. Steve kerr Out

696
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: explain that to me. I think it's it's more that, Uh,

697
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: if you look at how this season has gone for

698
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: the Warriors, like the number one thing has been, um

699
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: that they just don't show up sometimes. And the thought was, like, well,

700
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: they show up with the regular season, but the fourth

701
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: finals run and it's hard to do that. And like

702
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: so he did like that they coached themselves saying and

703
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: that was cute, and you know, they they slept off

704
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: a game versus the Spurs, like whatever, the Spurs were

705
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: never gonna beat them, and they slept off the game

706
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: versus the Pelicans, and that was a game that like

707
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 1: really hurts Steve Curve where he was like, I can't

708
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: believe he played this badly in the second round and

709
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: he just did not care um. And then it happened

710
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference Finals. That happen in game two, uh,

711
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: and it happened again in Game four, and it happened

712
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: again in Game five. Like the fact that the big

713
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: key I think is that in Game seven of the

714
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: Western Conference Finals they played one of their worst half

715
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: the basketball all season. And the people that are around

716
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: the team, the writers that are around the team, the

717
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: general sense is like, why on Earth at this point

718
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: are they still having trouble getting it together and giving effort.

719
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: There's a big gap between that and like them tuning

720
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: to Steve Kerr out And it's more that like Steve

721
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: kerr can't get through to them to where they're giving

722
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: maximum effort despite how high the stakes are. Uh. And

723
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: that I think is something that when I look at

724
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: what the lines are gonna be throughout the series, with

725
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: how much Golden State should be favored over this crappy Calvs. Team.

726
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: That gives me a lot of pause because you just

727
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: don't know when Golden State's gonna know show. Because there's

728
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: this line where for years they've been so confident because

729
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: they've been the best team in the league and they

730
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: knew it, and so they were confident. But now it's

731
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 1: slipped into where they're confident, but they also are just like, well,

732
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna win, Like we know we're gonna win no

733
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: matter what we do, Like we know we're gonna win.

734
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: And that I think it's very dangerous, not only from

735
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: you might be playing with fire, but especially when you're

736
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: a double digit favorite and we're talking about the spread

737
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: like that really concerns me because Golden State's mental focus

738
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: is so far away from what it has been. They

739
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: were in two thousand and fifteen, they were trying when

740
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: their first titled. Into thousand and sixteen, they were working

741
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: to be one of the best teams of all time.

742
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: Into thousand and seventeen, it was the revenge tour for

743
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: the three one collapsed and validating Katie's decision. There's no

744
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: stakes for them this year, Like they know they're gonna win,

745
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: they know they're gonna win, and that creates this high

746
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: level of complacency. There's a weird vibe around that team

747
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: right now. I still think they're gonna win. I picked

748
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: them in five, but there's a really weird vibe around

749
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: the Warriors that series. It did not feel like the

750
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: same dominant Golden State team that I've covered in the

751
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: playoffs year after year the last four years. That right

752
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: there is why they Spread the Floor podcast is the

753
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: best basketball podcast there is. In like three minutes, you

754
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: just gave such a thoughtful explanation of what is going

755
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: on in that locker room. So my question is, what

756
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: is Steve kers say or doesn't even matter? Like when

757
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: I think about coaches getting tuned out, it starts to

758
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: mean to me that they don't like the coach anymore.

759
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: It's impossible not to like Steve kurtz An, impossible not

760
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: to think that he knows what he's doing. And this

761
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: group is something seems like a group that doesn't have

762
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 1: people on the team that are sort of the Prima

763
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: Donna types, were just gonna disrespect what Steve Kerr is

764
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: trying to put in front of them. I think a

765
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: lot of it with with it is Uh, the hunger

766
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: kind of has to be internal for the team, and

767
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it's also Draymond. So Draymond

768
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: Green is the emotional heart and soul of that team,

769
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: like he is the core, and he is missing any

770
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: sort of hunger right now because they're so dominant. He's

771
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: fed off of disrespect his whole career. Nobody's disrespecting them.

772
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: You can't possibly make an argument that the Warriors are disrespected.

773
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: Everyone expected them to beat the Rockets. They were surprised

774
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: when they struggled, and everyone expects them to beat the

775
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: pants off the Calves. And so if Draymon is not

776
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: going a hundred miles an hour, and there were times,

777
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: especially that first half of Game seven, he looked awful. Uh,

778
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: And he has been barking at dudes like he is

779
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: he has been fed up with how the team plays.

780
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: Draymond is the one guy on the Warriors that genuinely

781
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: cares how the team plays, like he cares about whether

782
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: or not they go. Like after the Game five loss,

783
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: he talked about he said the word game plan discipline

784
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: about five times in a five minute presser, just constantly, like,

785
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: well we go, we have to have game plan discipline.

786
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: If you don't have game plan discipline, you're gonna lose.

787
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 1: And you can tell it irks him. And for years

788
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: it's been like it would he would get mad and

789
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: so he would let a fire into him and they

790
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: would respond. And now he just seems like tired of it.

791
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: He's just like, I don't know how many times I

792
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: gotta say this? How many times do we have to

793
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: go through this? Um? He was barking at Katie all

794
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: throughout that series, like there's all this stuff going on.

795
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: So with Kerr, I think there's only so much that

796
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: he can do because one, they're I mean, they're just

797
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: exhausted from four finals runs. They don't have any of

798
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: this hunger, and I don't know how it is that

799
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: they're going to be actually be able to get the

800
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: kind of motivation that they need in order to play

801
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 1: to their potential. Now what's crazy is they could still

802
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: cover at like effort. That's how bad the calves are

803
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: and how good the Warriors are. That's the gap here. Um.

804
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: But that to me, I think it's a concern is

805
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: that gold is How seriously is Golden Steak going to

806
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: take Cleveland when they know that their margin of error

807
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: is so much higher in this series than it wasn't

808
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: the last. I love the fact that this team can

809
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: play at f and Dreamland Green is the most passionate

810
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: player on that team, by the way. It's so interesting

811
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: to me. And you still think they can cover. Yeah,

812
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: it's just the problem. A lot of it is that

813
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm right about this right now. For the angles why column,

814
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: which is gonna go up on action in this afternoon,

815
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: is Uh, the Calves on the road are just horrible,

816
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: Like they're just they are a minus five point six

817
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: and net in in point differential on the road, and

818
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: these playoffs, they didn't win a single game in Boston

819
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: until Game seven, Like, they have been absolutely atrocious on

820
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: the road and the layoffs and you're going into Oracle

821
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: where Golden State is such a massive, just dominant team.

822
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: But not only that, but they were specifically stellar in

823
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: those third quarters. There's a formula here if you want

824
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: to actually like break it down, which is they come

825
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: out and they hit. What I've been started to refer

826
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: to is the third quarter Haymaker of doom. Like their

827
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: net rating in these playoffs at home and that third

828
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: quarter is astronomical. It's plus, it's I want to have

829
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: in front of me. But it's like plus fIF team.

830
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: More than that, it's they just beat the pants off

831
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: the teams in these third quarters. Curry like comes out

832
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: and lights a fire, and then what happens is teams

833
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: are so far back they can't catch up. And then

834
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: at the seven minute mark, everyone just pulls the plug

835
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, let's get ready for the

836
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: next game. At that point, the Warriors bench will always

837
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: try and run it up. They will always try and

838
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: run it up, and they cals like garbage depth is

839
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: really bad. So I would expect the Warriors to go

840
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: ahead and write it up there. So these end of

841
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: game margins I think could be way higher even if

842
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: the game was close to halftime like the second spread.

843
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be huge. The key in on

844
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: in these games an oracle. Alright, black Jacks, I'm not

845
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: black Jack. I am not ignoring you on purpose. I

846
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: think there's some some phone issues, so I'm I'm limiting

847
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: your airtime, which is almost impossible because you are a

848
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: force of nature and people should go listen to Live

849
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: from the Strip if they want to get you and

850
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: your full glory. But you're in Vegas. You're gonna be

851
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Speaker 1: there for Game two of the Stanley Cup Finals, and

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00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna be there for Game one of the NBA Finals.

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00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: When you listen to Matt, what does it do to

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00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: what you're thinking about what you might want to bet

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Speaker 1: for the finals and for Game one? Yeah, it's uh.

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Speaker 1: Listening to Matt right there just reaffirms what I was

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00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: already thinking for Game one, which is, I think you'd

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00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: take the Warriors delayed the twelve and twelve and a half.

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00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: But I also really like the Cavaliers supposed to have

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00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: plus seven. Uh, that's exactly right. That the Warriors have

861
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: tended to start and be a little bit black days ago,

862
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Speaker 1: and I think that if you're gonna give me seven

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Speaker 1: points in the first half of this game, I'm probably

864
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Speaker 1: going to take it a roll with that, and then

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Speaker 1: trust got to do what he said, which is what

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00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: they do with every one of these games, which is

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Speaker 1: about the third quarter and just shoot the lights out.

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Speaker 1: I like that idea a first half bat because I

869
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: am not comfortable laying twelve and a half. But I'm

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00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: also not comfortable putting putting money on Cleveland and coverage

871
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Speaker 1: twelve and a half. But I like plus seven. That's

872
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: a really good idea. All right, So Matt Moore, you

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00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: have come in that you think the series is gonna

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00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: go five. Why do you even think that it's gonna

875
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: go five just because the Warriors is gonna throw one

876
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 1: of those games away? Yes, it is incredible. Like every

877
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: single member of Golden State media knew that they were

878
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: gonna lose game too. But they all knew they were

879
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna lose game too because when the Warriors came out

880
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: in one game one of the lessern Conference Finals and

881
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: they want to buy quite a high margin, they all

882
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: said like, oh that they think they just won the series,

883
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: Like this team is gonna think like we got this,

884
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: that's it, it's done, and they're not gonna try. It

885
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: was amazing how consistent those responses were because I was

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Speaker 1: on the other side of it at that point. I

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00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: was like, well, you know, I think Golden State is

888
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: probably gonna sweep them, Like they won game one, they

889
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: broke their back. They just go out and they win

890
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: a close one in game two, like the series is done,

891
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: and then Houston blast them off the face of the planet.

892
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: Because Golden State looks absolutely atrocious, like their ability to

893
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: follow up consecutive really great games is very poor. The

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00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: other thing is if you look at last year and

895
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: they won this first three and then that Game four,

896
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: it's just it's there. There is this real tendency for

897
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: Golden State to go for what we call the gentleman sweep,

898
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Speaker 1: like you give them one to be polite. And I'm

899
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Speaker 1: not saying they're gonna give Lebron one because you don't

900
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: want to start like letting Lebron back into a series,

901
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: but I do think it's gonna be very hard for

902
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: them to go full bore and have everything going. Um.

903
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: The other thing is is injuries are quietly with this

904
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: Warrior's team a real concern. DeAndre goodala thing is is

905
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: weighing over them, and there's hope that they can get

906
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: them back for Game one, but that bone bruise is

907
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: really painful and he's probably gonna be limited even if

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00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 1: he plays. Then they have going on the radar. Draymond

909
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: Green's got a shoulder injury and that's one of the

910
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: reasons he is three for his last seventeen from three

911
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: point range. UM. That really messes with what they're able

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00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: to do offensively. Uh, they don't have a lot of depth.

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Speaker 1: They just don't. They don't have a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: with good death Like Patrick McCaw played his first game

915
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: after five months in Game six and was a Game

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Speaker 1: five and was a disaster, missing that that crucial shot. Like,

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Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of depth here. So I

918
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Speaker 1: think that there's a good chance, um that Cleveland is

919
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: able to get a game behind the greatness of Lebron James.

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00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be very much like it

921
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Speaker 1: was last year, where clearly the Warriors just weren't fully engaged.

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Speaker 1: Lebron does absolutely everything and it's still a close game

923
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Speaker 1: at the end. You gotta take on how long the

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00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: series is gonna go. I think you do five. I

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00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: think that Cleveland probably takes this series as well. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And we have this cover, so it's gonna be utterly

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Speaker 1: pointless about Ted David business series. Uh. And then Will

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Speaker 1: beat Up said you'll you'll rub the bat of the

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Speaker 1: clipt boscaps alrighty. Black Jack Fletcher Live from the Strip podcast,

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Speaker 1: Rocketing Up the iTunes podcast charts. Matt Moore, lead NBA

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Speaker 1: an analysts for Action Network that Spread the Floor podcast

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Speaker 1: unbelievably smart stuff. Everybody should go download. Everybody should listen.

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Speaker 1: Network content or listening to Action Network podcast tell Us

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Speaker 1: enjoy the finals and the Stanley Cup. Enjoy the NBA Finals, Matt,

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Speaker 1: You'll be on the road, Blackjack. God only knows where

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Speaker 1: you're going to be a brother, but thanks for coming

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Speaker 1: on the podcast.