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Speaker 1: This is the often requested and long anticipated earning their

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Speaker 1: Stripes Draft special. My name is Danny Martinez alongside Ian Smith.

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Speaker 1: Ethan is sitting this one out today. But like I

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Speaker 1: joked last week, if you are team Ian, then this

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Speaker 1: is the episode for you, because man Ian is going

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Speaker 1: to lead this one today. Ian, let the folks know

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Speaker 1: how excited you are, brother. I mean, I've been waiting

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Speaker 1: for this probably since we started. I mean, the draft

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Speaker 1: is my stuff. So I hopefully can bring you guys

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Speaker 1: some information today that I've put some work in you

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Speaker 1: guys will enjoy.

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Speaker 2: And yes, I'm very excited for this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, trust me, trust me, Ian Has. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how many notes already, Ian Has, I don't know all

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Speaker 1: that We're going to freelance this today. But if you

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Speaker 1: have been waiting for Ian, this is the episode. This

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Speaker 1: is the special he's going to shine through for us.

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Speaker 1: I actually want to start off real quickly because something

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Speaker 1: that happens with MLB Draft, and I know you know this, Ian,

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Speaker 1: is that it's just different than the NBA Draft, than

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Speaker 1: pro football drafts. It's different than almost every other draft

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Speaker 1: because the financials in this draft matter a lot. Right,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna hear you got y'all gonna hear us

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Speaker 1: talking about going underslot or going overslot or slot value

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Speaker 1: or do they have enough money in the pool, whatever

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Speaker 1: give you the floor, brothers, so you could just explain

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Speaker 1: a little bit about how the m will be draft

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Speaker 1: is special about the pool money that we have, the underslot,

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Speaker 3: Well, with the Moly Draft, you get a certain value,

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Speaker 3: and going into twenty nineteen, the Moms are starting with

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Speaker 3: thirteen million and forty five thousand dollars, which is third

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Speaker 3: best in the league. What that means is every pick

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Speaker 1: So then sometimes what teams will do with that is

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Speaker 1: don't know, and we're going to talk about this and

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Speaker 1: I'll let you get back to where you were going.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what I want the Marlins to

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Speaker 1: do this draft. There seems to be a very small

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Speaker 3: But go ahead, you yeah, absolutely, I mean you're playing

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Speaker 3: with the financials if you're if you're thinking you can

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Speaker 3: They can go underslot on their first pick, which would

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Speaker 3: be not in my favor. But they could do this

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Speaker 3: combnitive bounce round that would be an overslot pick. They

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Speaker 3: haven't done that in recent years. They signed a player

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Speaker 3: overslot last year, but it was very slight. That was

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Speaker 3: I don't know why, but yeah, I do believe Miami

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Speaker 1: the Marlins have three in the top fifty. You know

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Speaker 1: And there's no reason to go underslot with that. There's

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Speaker 1: don't play with that number four. And this is just

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Speaker 1: to who we might be looking at for that number

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Speaker 3: So far going into this year, it's been a bunch

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Speaker 3: Rams has been a Miami executive favorite since State one.

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Speaker 3: He is the tools, probably got the most tools and

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Speaker 3: He reminds me of lot of a Bryce to Rang

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Speaker 2: What I see in him.

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Speaker 3: So I want to see Miami go the opposite route

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Speaker 3: they've went in that in recent years, and that's the

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Speaker 3: power route. We haven't went power since probably the last

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Speaker 3: college draftic we had, and that's Comran. And let's see

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Speaker 3: two thousand and twenty thirteen as the last college draft

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Speaker 3: showing it a little bit in majors, but no longer

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Speaker 3: I really loved. And if we're going to go underslot,

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Speaker 3: and that'd be Bryce in the spot. I don't know

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Speaker 3: He's a left hand and bad play shortstop, can really

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Speaker 3: He's shown some immense power this year out of nowhere,

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Speaker 3: he's a player I've been talking about forever. If you

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Speaker 3: guys follow me on Twitter, you know that. But he's

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Speaker 3: Brison Stotting from my eyes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And and you've sold me on stot too that

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Speaker 1: when I when I said earlier, I'd be okay with

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Speaker 1: I want I want a Von. I want a Bladet.

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Speaker 1: Like we didn't speak about Hunter Bishop here. I would

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Speaker 1: But I want that value pick and you hit on it, right,

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Speaker 1: and we have it here in the notes, this concept

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Speaker 1: that the Marlins have two really intriguing parallels. So number one,

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Speaker 1: the Marlin in their history, and I know we're dealing

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Speaker 1: with new ownership, but they replicated this last year. Hardly

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Speaker 1: ever go college in their first round, right. It's something

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Speaker 1: that they they love the prep, they love the high ceiling.

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Speaker 1: This is a year where I say, no, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: go college. You know, if Danny GM was over there,

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Speaker 1: I would go with exactly the names that you said,

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Speaker 1: I would go college, and I would go hit tool

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Speaker 1: have here in the notes as well, that they've been

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Speaker 1: going with that athletic body type, right, or that they

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Speaker 1: go with that athlete, And yeah, the athletes can also hit,

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Speaker 1: but it's not exactly that pure advanced bat. And if

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Speaker 1: you follow me at all on Twitter, you know that's

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Speaker 1: what I want from this draft. I want that at four,

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Speaker 1: I want that at thirty five, I want that at forty.

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Speaker 1: I want it across the entire first round and competitive

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Speaker 1: balance because that's what we need right now.

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Speaker 2: We need the system calls for, you know.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly, it's what the system calls for, and quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: it's also what this draft like gives. It's what this

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Speaker 1: at and with your own eyes you see that it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's funny. Ian Ian will take that stance,

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Speaker 3: Like I just I feel like I'm a pestimist on him,

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Speaker 3: It is what it is whatever, But again, the peripherals

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Speaker 3: he hits for power, yes, but the size bothers me.

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Speaker 3: And we're just gonna leave it at that anyway. But

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you this, is there anything Is there anything

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Speaker 3: That's a huge point because I feel that the DH

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Speaker 3: From the left side. He's a big guy. He's about

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Speaker 3: He's a big body, he's a left handed bat, and

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Speaker 3: I mean, twenty five home runs this year is scary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you hit like on three things there that

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Speaker 1: at four. I also think I would be happy with

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Speaker 1: Vaughn at four because I really believe that over the

433
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Speaker 1: next collective bargaining, the DH is coming over, and then

434
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Speaker 1: you have someone that could be at first base, which,

435
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Speaker 1: for what it's worth, I'll add this, I get the

436
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Speaker 1: stat also that you gave us, but I'll also just

437
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Speaker 1: say that I have seen Derek Dietrich and Martine Prado

438
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Speaker 1: and Miguel rojas Man first for like the last three years.

439
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Speaker 1: And when something like that is what's happening, I have

440
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Speaker 1: a little bit more faith that someone can mold Vaughan

441
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Speaker 1: into a first basement that's undersized, but the point still stands.

442
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Speaker 1: So with these with number four bla day, Vaughn. You

443
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Speaker 1: hit a few other names before. Is there anyone that

444
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Speaker 1: you would want to highlight maybe the reason for why

445
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Speaker 1: we might go prep with C. J. Abrams if he's there,

446
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Speaker 1: or something to that extent.

447
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean C. J.

448
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Speaker 3: Abrams is known to be Derek Jeter's favorite in the draft.

449
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Speaker 3: I've been reading and somebody's been told me when I

450
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Speaker 3: was at the stadium last few weeks, and that's the

451
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Speaker 3: executives and Jeter both love Abrams and it's hard not

452
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Speaker 3: to love the guy. He's got a ridiculous amount of speed.

453
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Speaker 3: He plays shortstop. He's got good instincts, but in my eyes,

454
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Speaker 3: he's going to be a center fielder going forward, and

455
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Speaker 3: if it's not a center field he's going to be

456
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Speaker 3: a second baseman. He just doesn't have the true move

457
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Speaker 3: the true body movements at shortstop. He's got the arm

458
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Speaker 3: to handle the position, but I just feel like his

459
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Speaker 3: speed will be utilized so much better in center field

460
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Speaker 3: going forward that I think he's going to make make

461
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Speaker 3: the move, and.

462
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Speaker 2: I just I don't see it.

463
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Speaker 3: I don't see the need in US drafting a number

464
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Speaker 3: four at number four, another bat that's fitting the profile

465
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Speaker 3: of literally everybody we've either signed or drafted in the

466
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Speaker 3: past two years. And granted that's it's working out or

467
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 3: showing some improvement in the minor league system, but Powerson

468
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Speaker 3: have to come and if we're going to talk about power,

469
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Speaker 3: and I'm going to bring out the understot thing one

470
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Speaker 3: more last time. The name that came up on fangrass

471
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Speaker 3: this week is Brett Bady at an underslot pick. He

472
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Speaker 3: is a Texas third baseman who probably profiles as a

473
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Speaker 3: first baseman going forward. He's extremely old for an high

474
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Speaker 3: school player. He'll be nineteen and six months on draft day,

475
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Speaker 3: which is quite surprising to me. He would be the

476
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Speaker 3: name that's popped up for the Marlins at an underslot pick,

477
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Speaker 3: and that really really scares me on a lot of levels,

478
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Speaker 3: because drafting an older first base prospect who hasn't seen

479
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Speaker 3: top level competition at almost twenty years old with the

480
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Speaker 3: fourth pick overall would be an uber mistake in my eyes, yep,

481
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Speaker 3: an incredible risk.

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just I don't see them going that route.

483
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Speaker 3: But I just had to highlight it because he's came

484
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Speaker 3: up on some prestigious sites and on some mock drafts.

485
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Speaker 3: So that's just a name I'd like to highlight there.

486
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Speaker 3: But I mean, really, it really comes down to I

487
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Speaker 3: think three names at four and the end of it,

488
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Speaker 3: and that'll be Abrams Vaughn in today. I do feel

489
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Speaker 3: like Rushman will be gone for sure in those first

490
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Speaker 3: three picks. I do not know what's going to happen

491
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Speaker 3: at three. I could see White Sox going one of

492
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Speaker 3: two ways with Abrams or Vn. But right, we'll see

493
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Speaker 3: what happens. You know, you never know, So I mean,

494
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Speaker 3: we're gonna see what happens on June third, But in

495
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Speaker 3: my eyes, it's gonna come down the day Vonnor Abrams

496
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Speaker 3: and I agree.

497
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Speaker 2: I agree.

498
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Speaker 1: I think that then you have like tertiary names like

499
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Speaker 1: Riley Green. Right, Riley Green is a prep advanced, advanced bat,

500
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Speaker 1: but a lot of question marks where he would line

501
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Speaker 1: up defensively and again it's a prep bat, and that's

502
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Speaker 1: you're adding two plus more years to the ETA than

503
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Speaker 1: you would over in advanced college bat. Hunter Bishop is

504
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Speaker 1: a college guy who has a significant amount of power,

505
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Speaker 1: but the hit tool doesn't seem to be there, So

506
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Speaker 1: again that would be another risk. He I mean his

507
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Speaker 1: his power tool is sixty across most sites. Yeah, absolutely,

508
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: which is someone who could fit both the bill of

509
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Speaker 1: the you know, athleticism and of the power, but the

510
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: hit tool isn't there. And then do we again really

511
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: need that. I'm I'm a plus hit tool guy in

512
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: this draft. I want a bat in our system that

513
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Speaker 1: you can look at and say that swing is gonna

514
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Speaker 1: play and he'll be up in two and a half

515
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Speaker 1: three years. I need that this year because we don't

516
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Speaker 1: have that. You knows the whole system exactly exactly, and

517
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: and and that's that's the issue, right We need to

518
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: fill that and we can't fill it with another volatile bat,

519
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Speaker 1: which would seem to kind of be where Hunter Bishop's

520
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: profile leads you. And then I'll just say this for

521
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Speaker 1: the baby pick man. If they go baty underslot, why

522
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Speaker 1: don't you just go underslot with Young because Josh Young

523
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: is is similar as a matter of fact, he gets

524
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Speaker 1: comped to Batty, so young is a one year advanced

525
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Speaker 1: version of Baty. You know, he's coming out of college,

526
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Speaker 1: out of Texas Tech. I mean with me, I would

527
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Speaker 1: have I think it was fangrafs. I think you had

528
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Speaker 1: mentioned it. When they sent that out. My heart had

529
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Speaker 1: a little skip beat because this is not It's not the.

530
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Speaker 2: Year to do this.

531
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Speaker 1: It's not the year to have that kind of risk

532
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Speaker 1: play at your first overall pick in your first rebuilding draft.

533
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Speaker 1: There's a difference between risk with Baty and risk with

534
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Speaker 1: the most advanced bet in the world. You know, Andrew

535
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: Vaughan at the moment in this draft, right like, I'm

536
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: okay with eating that amount of risk. I'm not okay

537
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: with eating the risk that comes with Batty. All right.

538
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,239
Speaker 1: So if that's who we're looking for at number one,

539
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Speaker 1: and before we move on to not number one, but

540
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Speaker 1: with the first pick, before we move on to our

541
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Speaker 1: second pick, let's really quickly say what the outlets, what

542
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Speaker 1: the mock drafts are showing right now? So we have

543
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Speaker 1: Baseball America, Fangrafts twenty eighty, Baseball, CBA Sports, and Pipeline.

544
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Speaker 1: Three of the five agree with Ian, Three of the

545
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Speaker 1: five go with JJ Blide at number four. So fan Grafts,

546
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Speaker 1: CBS Sports, and Pipeline in their most recent mock drafts

547
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Speaker 1: all have the Marlins selecting JJ Blude, quite frankly, for

548
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: all the same reasons that Ian said. There's a connection there.

549
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Speaker 1: He's an advanced bat, his et would only be around

550
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: two years or so. It would fit the timeline that.

551
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, Adam Jones in his interview with I'm not

552
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: sure who it actually was with, but it was a

553
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: great interview him talking about the rebuilding process. That's the

554
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: timeline he gave us. He said, you know, we have

555
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: this three to five year window of building a sustainable team,

556
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: that twenty twenty one year that we always kept talking

557
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: about and hypothetically putting out. Finally a Marlins executive comes

558
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Speaker 1: out and says that, like, look, twenty twenty one is

559
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Speaker 1: really the time that we're supposed to be competing. He

560
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: would this year's draft, if you get an advanced bat,

561
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: would fit that timeline. Wouldn't be the same if you

562
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: get a prep bad. But nonetheless, that's why JJ Blede

563
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: would be a good pick there. Baseball America. You know,

564
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: that's my personal favorite goes with Andrew Vaughn, who also

565
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: seems to be my personal favorite. So I'm telling you

566
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Speaker 1: there's just something in the blood with Baseball America and myself.

567
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Speaker 1: Twenty eighty baseball is the only one that has this

568
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Speaker 1: going prep and I love twenty eighty Baseball. I would

569
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Speaker 1: be surprised. I'd be surprised. I mean the board would

570
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Speaker 1: have to fall Rushman with and then Vaughn, which could happen,

571
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Speaker 1: and then the Marlins would have to sit there and

572
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Speaker 1: basically what Baseball is doing. They were saying their executives

573
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: are going to beat out their direct their their scouting directors.

574
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: You know, the executives of den Bo and Jeter, who

575
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: are supposedly linked with Abrams will get the final word,

576
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: and then it'll be Abrams instead of Blade. So it'll

577
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how it unfolds. I think Ian

578
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: will agree with me on this. The one thing that

579
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: I can say is that it's a beautiful pick and

580
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: a beautiful year to be at number four. You will

581
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: leave this pick with a top elite, top shelf talent

582
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: as long as they don't go under slot and risk it.

583
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: But if it's one of the four that we keep mentioning,

584
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, Marlin's fans should be happy, and I think

585
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: Ian will be with me on that one. All right.

586
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: So then what about the other two picks that we have.

587
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: What are some names that we should be zoning in

588
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: on for those two value picks.

589
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: Well, if we're going to talk about risk, I think

590
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: risk might be addressed at pick thirty five. There's some

591
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: names there that could be risky but could be extremely

592
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 3: beneficial down the road. The first thing I'm gonna bring up,

593
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: that's rhes Hines. He was once on our board, going

594
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: four overall to us, probably the early last year. This

595
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: guy has ridiculous power. I mean a grade seventy plus.

596
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 3: Probably anywhere you're gonna look for it. He's currently playing shortstop,

597
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: probably looks at a third base or maybe corner ralfs

598
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 3: are going forward. He's just a freak. I mean, the

599
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: hit tool is not really there. He strikes out of

600
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 3: a good amount, but he hits the ball a long way.

601
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: He reminds me a little bit of Eloy Jemenez.

602
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: He's he's a good pick.

603
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 3: I mean we'd have to probably go a little bit

604
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Speaker 3: under slot in the first round to get him at

605
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: thirty five, But He's a guy who I really love

606
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: for the.

607
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: Martins we look at.

608
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it'd be risky, but he just has so

609
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: much potential there that he could be a great name

610
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: to pick at thirty five. A few other guys are

611
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: both prep bats as well or prep players as well,

612
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: and that's Hunter Barco out of Jacksonville. He's a piece

613
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 3: of a left handed pitcher. He's big, he's funky, he's

614
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: got great stuff. He's got three plus pitches. He's a

615
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: Florida commit. He's gonna be kind of a tough sign

616
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: coming out, but if we can get him at thirty five,

617
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: that's a huge win for us. I know it's a

618
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: prep pitcher again, but he's great. I mean, he's got

619
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: good stuff. Stuff looks like it'll play for a really

620
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: long time. It's easy, he's got good walk to K numbers.

621
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I like what I see out of him.

622
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: And the last guy I'm gonna bring up at thirty

623
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: five is Matthew Lugo. He's kind of a lower rated prospect.

624
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: He's toolsy as hell. He's the University of Miami commit.

625
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: Love that you know it he is. He is Carlos Beltrans' nephew.

626
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: He is.

627
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: He's a he's an absolute gamer. He's going to Bell

628
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: Trans Academy currently in Puerto Rico. He's shown up against

629
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: top level competition all year long. He's been at the

630
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: perfect Game. He's been in Jupiter. He's got an ex

631
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: of a loss on something. His balls falking in the

632
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: high nineties once a ninety seven. I mean, he's he's

633
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: he's a I went to guy. I mean he's rated

634
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: probably in the low seventies or eighties on most boards,

635
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 3: but he's a guy I think the Marlins could take

636
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: a risk on at thirty five just for what they

637
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: see in them, and just all the uber towels excuse me,

638
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: the uber tools are drooling over.

639
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: So I really those are three names that I really

640
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: like to see there.

641
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: There's a few other guys they could look at as

642
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: college bats with Greg Jones, as Craig Mish excuse me,

643
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: Greg Jones, as Craigmish pointing out this week, he is

644
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: a shortstop out of North Carolina, Wilmington, who just burns

645
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: on the bass pads. He's got eighty grade speed. He's

646
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: a young guy at twenty one years old. He stole

647
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: thirty plus bases this year, He's another project pick just

648
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: because of the hit tool. But he's a guy who

649
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: could really really add some athleticism on the bass pads

650
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: for us, and that's a good pick at thirty five

651
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: as well.

652
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love two names. I love all the names

653
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: who gave us, but I love two names, and I'll

654
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: highlight two names. They're number one, Matthew Lugo. All right,

655
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: I know you're mister Gator.

656
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 2: All right.

657
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be happy regardless of what happens, because if

658
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: he doesn't signs, he gets to come to Coral Gables,

659
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: he gets to play for the U, he gets to

660
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: continue beating the Gators, and I'm really I'm really okay

661
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: with that. But I will say this, when it comes

662
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: to Barco, I genuinely believe that he will be a

663
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: steal for someone in that range. And this is why,

664
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: over the last maybe decade, we've started to see a transition.

665
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to call out the Tyler Coolick effects where

666
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: we have stopped looking at prep pitchers because they have

667
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: one specific amazing tool. Right, We've stopped drooling over that.

668
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: We've stopped drooling over the one guy that has a

669
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: seventy fastball or the one guy that has this, you know,

670
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: sixty five off speed or curve or whatever the case is.

671
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: And little by little, maybe it's the analytics, maybe it's

672
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: the advanced scouting that's started to come into play. We've

673
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: started looking at guys that have a profile like Barco

674
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: at the prep level, not at the college level, but

675
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: at the prep level where it's it is. It's not average,

676
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: but it's consistent across the bold right, it's a fifty

677
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: five sixty fastball, fifty five slider, fifty five change of

678
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty five control. Kind of that kind of

679
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: situation where you're no longer betting like we used to

680
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: on the ninety eight mile per hour or ninety six

681
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: mile per hour at the high school level fastball. We're

682
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: betting on the entire profile. For me, if the Marlins

683
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: will be able to come out of this draft with

684
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: one of the guys that we highlighted at four and

685
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: then somehow also will be able to sign Barco and

686
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: take him away from UF. Also, how interesting that the

687
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: two we highlighted our Dators and Hurricanes. It's almost like

688
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: there's a bias in here. If they come out of

689
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: that and they steal Barco away from you guys. What

690
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 1: a draft? What a draft? Because I understand, I understand

691
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: that we are all tainted and score and with the

692
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: prep arms that the Marlins have basically failed at at assessing.

693
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: But that's the difference. We're not selling on one lottery

694
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: ticket with Kolak and a fastball. Here, we're selling and

695
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: we're buying rather on four average to plus pitches at

696
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: age eighteen that you would feel the fish would be

697
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: able to develop moving forward. So I personally am a

698
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: really big Hunter fan, Barco fan. I believe that he's

699
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: going to be something special and if the Fish are

700
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: in a position to go there and somehow steal him

701
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: away from UF, what an absolute first two picks?

702
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, man, I think he's probably one of my favorite

703
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: pitchers in the draft overall. I mean this is a

704
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: very weak pitcher draft completely, but I mean prep wise,

705
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: he's probably one of my highest rateed prep guys over

706
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: some of you, as you're talking about with ninety eight fastball,

707
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: and that's Daniel Lesperzino. I mean, here's a guy who's

708
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: looking at top five picks. Now I'm seeing him on

709
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: some mocks dropping out of the first round. I mean

710
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: teams are understanding that the volatile one hundred mile to

711
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: hour fastball in high school was not the best route

712
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: to go anymore. And I'm so glad the Marlins are

713
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: being connected a little bit too Barco and at a

714
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: tech player like him, I mean, he's just a prototype

715
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: MLB starter. I mean, going forward, the kids just going

716
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: to add size. He's six 'y four, he's got a

717
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: sale type delivery. I mean, what couldn't you like about him?

718
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: So I would absolutely love Laborlons went that round at

719
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: thirty five, And.

720
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: I really don't understand why it's taken so long for

721
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: teams to pick up on that. Like, I'm not trying

722
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: to pretend that I know anything that scouts don't, Okay,

723
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: I understand that scouts look at a very specific intricacies

724
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: of the game that I won't even pretend to be

725
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: aware of. But in my mentality, this is just it's

726
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: sensical to me that you understand that a high schooler

727
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: with ninety five ninety seven can get away with anything,

728
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: because both high school bats, you're facing sixteen year olds,

729
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: seventeen year olds not even who are not going to

730
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: be able to catch up to that. You give me

731
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: the profile of someone that's only pumping ninety two but

732
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: has a nice change has a feel for off speed,

733
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: which is something that most of our prep picks well,

734
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: not really, but the ones that have failed, I guess

735
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: we'll say that don't have They don't have a feel

736
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: for the command, and they don't have a feel for

737
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: their secondaries. They get by with pump and fastball, fastball, fastball.

738
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why it's taken so long for the

739
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: baseball community to turn to transition from se saying wow,

740
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: Kulik has to be the first pick to now realizing okay,

741
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: maybe we need a little bit more of a complete profile.

742
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: We will give you a little bit less velo as

743
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: long as you show us that you actually have a changeup,

744
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: which is the most dangerous pitch in baseball, that you

745
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: actually have an off speed that could get people off balance,

746
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: and that you know where the ball is going instead

747
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: of just pumping it out of the zone and freshman

748
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: high schoolers being able to swing by your fastball. So

749
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: that's like my little rent, But it's also the purpose

750
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: of saying, you know, that's why Hunter Barco would be

751
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: so special at that slot and at that value, And yeah,

752
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: they're going to have to pry them out of Gainesville,

753
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: but I think that it'd be worth the risk for

754
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: having an adding an arm like that. So that's at

755
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: thirty five. What about at forty six?

756
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: At forty six, we're going to go probably going back.

757
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: I want to go back to college bats again. I mean,

758
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: I feel like we have to double down in this

759
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: draft on as many power bats as we can. And

760
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: two names I'd really like to point out at bats

761
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: at thirty forty six would be Logan Wyat, the first

762
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: baseman out of Louisville. Fits the profile of a Pavin

763
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: Smith or dare I say, Garrett Cooper, But he's a bigger, bigger,

764
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: left handed bat. He's a first first base only possibly

765
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: left fear down the road, but most likely first base.

766
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 3: He's got incredible play discipline. He's got fifty six to

767
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 3: thirty six or fifty seven to thirty six walks the

768
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 3: k's this year, which is pretty ridiculous. He's hasn't quite

769
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: tapped into his raw power that scouts expect him to have,

770
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 3: but he's a player I could really see them looking

771
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: at at forty six, he could be a first base,

772
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: starting first base within two years. He's developed. He stepped

773
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: in right after Brendan McKay left three years ago in

774
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 3: the draft. He's played all three years. He's a great player.

775
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 3: He's somebody I've really fall in love with doing this research,

776
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: and I'd hopefully liked them to look that route at

777
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 3: forty six. And another guy like to bring up is

778
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 3: Matt Walner out of Southern Mississippi. He is a former

779
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: first round talent, but with tremendous power. Another left handed bat.

780
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 3: I mean, the left handed bats miss draft are just

781
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: pretty ridiculous if you look at a year to get one. Yeah, absolutely,

782
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: I mean Wallner's almost has more power in the left

783
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: hand side than the data is. I mean, he's got

784
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: fifty four career home runs than one hundred and eighty

785
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: one games. He could play both corner routfield positions, possibly

786
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 3: first base down the road. I mean he sits ninety

787
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: five when his fastball as well, so if you really

788
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: want to go two ways, he possibly could be that

789
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: leader down the road. He's shown some better walk numbers

790
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: this year, but he's had some problems with the hits

791
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: tool in the past few years. But he's a great player.

792
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: And if we're going to talk about big power. He's

793
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: the big power guy. Those are two names that are

794
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: college bats that I really like a lot. And if

795
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: we're gonna just dabble again with a risky pick, and

796
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: that's Trey Faulteam out of Texas.

797
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: He is developing athlete who really doesn't have a position.

798
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: Scouts see him as a shortstop, second basement going forward,

799
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: but he's quite developed on the mound as well. He's

800
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 3: got a ninety two mine hour fastball with movement and

801
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 3: a curveball that just falls off the table. He's a

802
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,959
Speaker 3: Texas commit with potential to have sixty grade tools across

803
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: the board. He's going to be hard to sign and

804
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: he's going to be a project coming into the year.

805
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: But at forty six, if we really hit on our

806
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 3: first two picks, he's somebody I can see the Marlins

807
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 3: looking at as a prep guy. He's just got the

808
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: stuff you really just ooze over. I mean, he's got

809
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: all kinds of talent and six three hundred and ninety

810
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 3: five pounds. He's just something you want to play with

811
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: when you get him on the field, and you know, so, uh,

812
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: that's a guy that I think they can look at

813
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: it as a third round second round pick.

814
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no surprise, but it's all real good names.

815
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Wilner. I think that I

816
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: think you you can. If you get that power at

817
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: that value, you take it, you try to develop that

818
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: bad it's from the left side. You could transition him

819
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: to first if you need to. There's a lot about

820
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: that profile. He's also big, six foot I think six

821
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: foot six, six foot five. He's He's a big guy,

822
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: big profile, a lot of power. It's someone that I

823
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: understand will be risky, but some one that you can

824
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: really work with moving forward and hopefully really tap into

825
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: that power and develop that hit. And then you have

826
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: yourself a threat for the middle of the order and

827
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: someone that could be the answer at first if Vond

828
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: isn't the answer, or if the Marlins, which I don't

829
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: think the miners are going to be bad enough again

830
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: because of the pitching to get the first pick next year,

831
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: but if Spencer Torkolsen isn't the answer, then you have

832
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: a guy in your system who you could put at

833
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: first and could be that solution. All right, So I

834
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: have a question, and then you know, we'll start wrapping up,

835
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: and actually I want you to start thinking about how

836
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: you would really lay out this draft. So I'm gonna

837
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: ask you if you were the GM and all of

838
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: the options, it was a perfect scenario for you, right

839
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: who you would get at four? Who you would get

840
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: with the other two picks? So start thinking about that.

841
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: But I also have a quick question for the fan

842
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: that says, listen, I understand we need bats, but it

843
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: still needs to be about a farm system and pitching.

844
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: A farm system and pitching, and forget that we have

845
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: all the talents in the world. Is there anybody at

846
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: all that you would consider at four that's a picture.

847
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: Lodolo would get my only consideration, and that would probably

848
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: even have to be an underslot value.

849
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: He's a talented guy.

850
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: He's going to be an MLB starter for sure, But

851
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: an upper level college starter like that, there's a There's

852
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 3: not a prep guy I would even consider in the

853
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: top fifteen, and Lodolo would probably be the only route

854
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: I get.

855
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: But he just doesn't fit the profile that we need.

856
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 3: Even if we need pictures in our system, an upper

857
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: level college guy is going to go spend a year

858
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: or two in Jacksonville and then jump in the system

859
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: that's got eleven guys ready to throw one hundred innings

860
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 3: next year in the majors. So Lodolo will be the

861
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: only guy I'd actually agree with at four. I mean,

862
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: but if they're gonna go super underslot, I could see

863
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 3: them looking at Barco at four if we're gonna go

864
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: super duper underslot, you know, and then go that route,

865
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: or Jack Lighter if we're gonna go underslot at four.

866
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: But I really don't see a guy that they can

867
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 3: really take a risk on right now there.

868
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: And the reality is that then the prep arms and

869
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: not even the prep arms well yeah later on probably

870
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: are unsignable. If you get to like Lighter at a

871
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: later value, it's gonna be he's not gonna sign.

872
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: He's getting more than four million dollars and write down

873
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: or CV that's not gonna happen.

874
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just going to deplete you. And it's probably

875
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: not even worth it at this point, especially if you

876
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: didn't go under slot, then you're really not even able

877
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: at all. So the reality is that if you're looking

878
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: for pitching, if you're looking for pitching in this draft,

879
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: it's a bad year to look for pitching. Number one

880
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: and number two. I don't see the Marlins I don't

881
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: see the Marlins doing that, you know, I see the

882
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: Marlins exactly like we've focused on hitting. They should be

883
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: doing the same, exactly like we focus on that hit

884
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: power combo. They should be doing the same. So I'm

885
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: going to imagine that there's some consensus almost with everyone

886
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: that has this conversation that the Marlins will likely not

887
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: look pitching. But I wanted to have that conversation because

888
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: there are some that say pitching should always be what

889
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: you're looking at. Yeah, and I agree if there's someone

890
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: that's lodolo, But if not, you know, it's just it's

891
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: not happening, all right. So how do you how do

892
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: you think it lines up? Or how would you line

893
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: it up? If you if you had everything and you

894
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: were able to control the variables and they were there

895
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: for you, what would you do at the first three picks?

896
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: My perfect first three picks in two weeks would would

897
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: start with at four. It'd be jj vide. I'm gonna

898
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: double down that as much as I can. I feel

899
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: like he's the best value at four. Just take that

900
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: as you may. I think he's going to be the pick.

901
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: I would really love for him to be the pick.

902
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: I think you would be an immense talent in our system.

903
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 3: I picked thirty five again, I'm going to double down.

904
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: It's going to be Hunter Barco. I think he would

905
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: be the best choice we could go if we're goun

906
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: to talk about pitching. He's a prep pitcher with all

907
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: the talent in the world who could be a first

908
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 3: rounder in any and any other year. So if we

909
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 3: get him at thirty five for somewhere close to our

910
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: slot value, that would be a huge win for us.

911
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: And at forty six, it's going to come down to

912
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: two players for me, But I'm gonna ultimately lean on

913
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: Matt Walner.

914
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: You like him as well.

915
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: I talked about him a little bit ago. He's just

916
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: a big power bat. He fits the system. He could

917
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 3: be the BPA at that number. He's a he's a

918
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: great he's a great player. I mean, if the hit

919
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: tool is really there, then he could be even better

920
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 3: power tool in our systems. So those are my first

921
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: three picks. And if they don't go that route, Greg

922
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: Jones at forty six would be awesome as well. But yeah,

923
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: that's me for sure. That's good, all right, So I'll

924
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 3: go backwards. So, yes, I do love Walner.

925
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have him at forty six as well, like

926
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: all the reasons that we have already reiterated, he would

927
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: be the guy for me, although I'm actually gonna not

928
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: do that. I'm gonna not go Walner because you know

929
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do at number one, right, So what

930
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually say, something that we actually didn't talk

931
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: about is na seem Nuniaz. Okay, and like you know,

932
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: it's exciting. I think I got the name right, not

933
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: seem Nunia's. It sounds pretty fair. He is basically your

934
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: stereotypical individual who's gonna be but to stick at short

935
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: hopefully okay, and has a well enough speed, has okay

936
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: hitting and contact rate, but will never really give you

937
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: much power. I'm okay with going there at forty six

938
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: if it's something that is again it's a near slot,

939
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: you're not overspending for him, and he allows you, and

940
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: he's young eighteen and he allows you to have that

941
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: switchbat at short. So that's where I'm going to go

942
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: with that, because you know that number one I'm gonna

943
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: eventually go on number two. I'm gonna go Barko and

944
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with Barco I think that that's the

945
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: unanimous for us. I think everyone on Martin Twitter has

946
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: caught on to this train. I think we understand the

947
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: value that he would have for you there, and the

948
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: fact that he has three plus pitches is all that

949
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: I really need to know that it's at thirty five

950
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: that's what I want. And then at number one, I'm

951
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: going to do the maybe unwise but risky selection of

952
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: going with vont I think that I'm going to stick

953
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: with the fact that I want a high hit tool,

954
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: a high plate discipline, even though again, really walk to

955
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: k in the college level shouldn't be held as high

956
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: a value as it is, you know, at the major

957
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: league level, at the minor league level because of the

958
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: competition you're facing, but still there's something about that that's

959
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: intriguing for me. The power or the ballpark factor is

960
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: something that I've looked at as well, So it's not

961
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: like you're alone on that island. We're not sure that

962
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: the power will translate as much as it would have

963
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: in other stadiums and in other areas of the country.

964
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: But when I look at his swing, there is some

965
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: there is some pre movement, there's some movement before his

966
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: swing but I just I think there's enough there to

967
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: translate across the minor leagues and to see him, honestly

968
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: in two years, in two or two and a half years,

969
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: right in the Smack Medal, even though he probably wouldn't

970
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: start off there of the lineup when this team is

971
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: ready to compete. There's something very intriguing to me about

972
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: getting the most advanced back, at least right now of

973
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: the draft, and so I would go I would go

974
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: on Barco and Nunez, just to get that mid athlete,

975
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, shortstop, maybe go to center field with that

976
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: later pick. But I would surely be happy with your

977
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: draft too. I would be thrilled if they got Warner, Barker,

978
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: Barco and JJ Bledah because at the end of the day,

979
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: JJ Bleday honestly probably even has a higher ceiling. There's

980
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: more you could do with him. His swing is beautiful.

981
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: I think my comp that I put on here was

982
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: was it Paulineo? Yeah, I mean you know that's I'm

983
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: okay with that, Like if you give me a Polonial career,

984
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm really happy with that pick at number four. So

985
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: I think that the point really here is the Marlins

986
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: cannot go wrong. Unless if they go severely underslot. If

987
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: they go severely underslot, that means that there has to

988
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: be a plan in place for thirty five and forty six,

989
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: and then hopefully they attribute and they continue that plan.

990
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: But man, give me that bad at four, whether it's Vaughn,

991
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: whether it's Bladet, and then hopefully give me some value

992
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: at thirty five and forty six, because this is the

993
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: year to really be able to turn around the franchise

994
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: as well as obviously next year.

995
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, for as week as this is in

996
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: certain areas, it's extremely strong in the areas that the

997
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 3: Marlins need. I mean, power bats, left handed bats, speed

998
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: up the middle. If we're gonna still go that route

999
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: and there's value pictures late. I mean, we can go

1000
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 3: a bunch of different routes in this raft, but every

1001
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: route we should go can lead to probably some men

1002
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: success in this franchise. So this has got to be

1003
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: the year we really start making the moves to be

1004
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: the better franchise that we want to be.

1005
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Yep, it's gonna be fun. June third is right around

1006
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: the quarter, all right. It is always a pleasure. Thank

1007
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: you all for joining us. Sorry that Ethan couldn't join

1008
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: us today, but see, I told you that Ian was

1009
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: going to come through right. Just just to basic, we

1010
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: are going to have hopefully a prospect coming up next week.

1011
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: We're not going to exactly say the name quite yet,

1012
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: but trust me, it's someone that you're going to be

1013
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: very excited to talk about, and I know we're going

1014
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: to be excited to talk with. As always, make sure

1015
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: you like and subscribe wherever podcasts are found. We appreciate you, Ian,

1016
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: Thank you brother, and go Fish.

1017
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely appreciate your guys,