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Speaker 1: Smell off.

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Speaker 2: Now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time, that's

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Speaker 2: one pm for our friends in Machias, Maine, on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: December eleven, and we're live for Meet Eater, HQ and Bozeman.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Spencer, joined today by Seth Randall was

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Speaker 2: supposed to be here, but for some reason he had

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Speaker 2: to bail. It was a good reason. Now on today's show,

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Speaker 2: we'll interview Kurt Steiner, the man who holds the world

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Speaker 2: record for skipping a rock eighty eight times, and we'll

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Speaker 2: have gear Talk, where Seth and I review hunting and

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Speaker 2: fishing products. But first, Seth, I just the biggest white

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Speaker 2: tail in my life.

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Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know it. I when I got that.

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Speaker 3: I love when my friends send me deer pictures, but

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Speaker 3: your yours, your picture was the best one I got

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Speaker 3: all year old. I was just like overrun with with joy.

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Speaker 3: Good when you send me that.

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Speaker 2: I'm tickled. I'm tickled.

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Speaker 4: He also like the biggest white tailed deer of most

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Speaker 4: people's lifetimes, not just yours.

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Speaker 1: Like that's a really big deer.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah, yeah. For some reason, we have Ryan

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Speaker 2: Callahan brogaining. Max Barton also in the room.

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Speaker 1: You introduced us at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: He didn't.

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Speaker 5: He actually specifically said we will not be acknowledging you

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Speaker 5: Christmas everybody.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I was in the Golden Triangle of Illinois. That's

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Speaker 2: Pike County, Adams County, Brown County. Those counties are second, third,

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Speaker 2: and tenth in Illinois for boone and crocket whitetail entries U.

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Speaker 2: And it's just like if you got to play Sims

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Speaker 2: or play God with with the earth and be like,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make the best white tail ground I can fathom. Yep,

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Speaker 2: that's what you would get in the Golden Triangle. It's

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Speaker 2: just like the perfect mix of timber and egg. And

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Speaker 2: since the invention of Outdoor Magazine Outdoor TV, the Golden

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Speaker 2: Triangle has been a place on a map that the

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Speaker 2: whitetail hunters fantasized about. Oh yeah, I'd put it with

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Speaker 2: like you know, like Buffalo County, Illinois, the Milk River

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Speaker 2: in Montana, yep, South Texas, South Iowa, the bread Basket

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Speaker 2: of Saskatchewan. You know, it's just like notorious is all

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Speaker 2: those places for like big giant white tail bucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's like what Nashville is for country

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Speaker 3: music exactly.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good analogy.

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Speaker 2: So my buddy invited me out to hunt his farm

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Speaker 2: this year. It was like the most excited I've been

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Speaker 2: about a hunt in twenty twenty five. And going into

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Speaker 2: the hunt, I had told my buddy this, I was like,

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Speaker 2: my anticipation is so high that there's no possible way

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Speaker 2: it can meet my expectations. Yeah, like I'm just I'm

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Speaker 2: expecting too much at this point. And then the biggest

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Speaker 3: So did you did you go into this did you

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Speaker 3: deer that you could potentially be seen there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my landowner buddy was aware of like four or

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Speaker 2: five bucks they thought that were like five plus years old. Uh,

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Speaker 2: this this was the biggest buck of them all. They

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Speaker 2: had three years of history with him, when he was

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Speaker 2: season in October, never gave him a shot, and then

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Speaker 2: him again. They didn't get any trailcam photos of him. Right,

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Speaker 2: So this landowner was hunting this deer he was hunting. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they tried to kill him. Didn't happen this year, but

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Speaker 2: Up on the TV, right, we have a picture of him.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: He's a mainframe five by five, but he's got a

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Speaker 2: lot of junk. I think he has nineteen scorable points.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it is around his bases that are

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Speaker 1: You just think you're kind of guessing he's got nineteen.

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Speaker 1: He didn't look at him that hard.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's got stuff going on around his bases that

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Speaker 2: are like crawling across into his hide, and some of

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Speaker 2: I've got sheds here of the buck he's got like

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Speaker 2: they're not really dirty sheds, but it's called a dirty

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Speaker 2: when you have a dirty shed. In this book, he

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Speaker 2: has a few dirty sheds. His three year old sheds

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Speaker 2: and so then you know you're going to get some

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Speaker 2: abnormal points. So you're talking about those little Bumpser at

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Speaker 2: the white stuff on the bottom. Yeah, that's like part

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Speaker 2: of his skull that's coming with, which is an ideal

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Speaker 2: it was working out. So he was a mainframe five

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Speaker 5: This landowner that that you got this little connection with.

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Speaker 1: Is this just a great guy.

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Speaker 2: It's a jaw tag. But it's like, you know, the

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Speaker 2: to go there and hunt. Yeah, the buck disappeared for

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Speaker 2: five weeks, showed back up. They had like eight inches

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Speaker 2: second gun season, which was what I was there for,

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Speaker 2: some places real heavy and disappear from others, and it

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Speaker 2: just happened that they had the right soybeans to pull

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Speaker 5: That's fantastic one perfect crazy there.

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Speaker 7: Well, what's this that?

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Speaker 2: Here's something?

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Speaker 1: You look giddy?

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Speaker 2: Something foot in the Meat Eater studio.

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Speaker 1: I feel like just shadowed St.

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Speaker 2: Clause Sannah.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't rudy for that.

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Speaker 2: She was not ready. Indeed, ladies and gentlemen, Santa Claus

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Speaker 2: has just stepped into the Meat Eater podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: He's got a big sack full.

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Speaker 7: Of gifts a little boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing?

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Speaker 7: I'm doing very well, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Where you park the reindeer?

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Speaker 7: Old? They're outside?

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Speaker 6: No they're not.

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Speaker 7: Don't don't be a grinch there, Brody, I'm just telling truth. Buddy,

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Speaker 7: you're full of humbug.

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Speaker 2: That is observed that you have a giant bag with you.

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Speaker 7: I do, I do, I cannot swing by my favorite

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Speaker 7: Thursday live podcast airs at eleven Mountain time. Just spread

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Speaker 7: a little Christmas cheer.

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Speaker 2: Perfect okay, And and now it also appears that Cal

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Speaker 2: Brody and Max have showed up.

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Speaker 7: Magic nice.

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Speaker 1: You sound like Daniel d Lewis from There Will be Blood.

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Speaker 1: Give me the.

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Speaker 7: Bloody a false profet Seth. Someone told me whose gift

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Speaker 7: this was, and I've forgotten it already.

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Speaker 2: Okay, does this go?

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Speaker 1: That's for Bill the engineer.

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Speaker 2: Bill the engineers.

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Speaker 6: Have to.

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Speaker 7: There's a series of gifts for Seth Morris that are

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Speaker 7: numbered in this way.

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Speaker 2: Number one, you're supposed, my goodness.

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Speaker 7: Okay, this is for Spencer Newhart.

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Speaker 2: Okay, seen that? What is it?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 2: It's good and cold?

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Speaker 7: Maxwell. I shouldn't have.

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Speaker 1: What else?

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Speaker 7: Ryan Callahan, n.

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Speaker 2: Oh, looks like a man wrapped that present.

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Speaker 1: Brody doesn't have anything.

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Speaker 7: No to Brody Anderson.

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Speaker 2: All right, same wrapping paper as cows.

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Speaker 7: This is a topper where that the Williams household borrowed

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Speaker 7: from you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it may have been very specific that I wanted

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Speaker 7: Randy's not here, but I'll open that perfect gifts?

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Speaker 2: Is that everything? Okay? I think?

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Speaker 7: So? Oh wait, he's done. I also have a lot

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Speaker 7: of candy canes and bottles of fireball.

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Speaker 2: Ten baby bottles of fireball whiskey have just been jumped

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Speaker 2: out of You need more?

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Speaker 7: I have more. There's a lot of it at my house,

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Speaker 7: and I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe that that Fireball keeps saying a deeper host.

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Speaker 1: I want to gage you. Now.

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Speaker 2: What doesn't Santa like about Fireball? That's kind of an upset.

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Speaker 2: I assume that'd be right in his wheelhouse. It's too sweet,

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Speaker 7: I drink it too fast.

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Speaker 2: You need to go ice fishing, well, Santa.

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Speaker 5: Last year Santa went one minute fishing on our show.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he was successful.

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Speaker 7: We have great fishing weather today we do. It's nearly

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Speaker 1: Ice fishing weather.

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Speaker 2: No, no, sorry, Okay, Santa has handed out the gifts.

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Speaker 2: Let's start over with fill the engineer, Phil.

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Speaker 1: It's open up.

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Speaker 5: Sure, it looks like the internet at Meat Eater h

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Speaker 5: Q dropped up for a secure But I think Sanna

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Speaker 5: Santa were lying.

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Speaker 5: stream's back, I believe it is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it looks good.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm opening my gift now. It's on the floor

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Speaker 2: People are asking if you've been drinking already.

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Speaker 7: No, not yet, not yet.

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Speaker 2: It's the middle of the day.

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Speaker 1: Dry commute back to Phil.

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Speaker 5: You're supposed to read that whole card, the whole card.

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Speaker 5: You want me to read it live on air here, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 5: we go. It says, because you mean so much at

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Speaker 5: Christmas and.

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Speaker 2: Always it's kind of romantic.

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Speaker 5: I'm feeling things. The holiday season isn't really about gifts

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Speaker 5: and decorations. It's about reaching out to the people who

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Speaker 5: much we care. So remove wrap before placing an envelope

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Speaker 5: the car on the car and whoever gave you this gift.

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Speaker 4: I mean they were kind enough not to write in

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Speaker 5: That very conscious, thoughtful.

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Speaker 2: There's a guy who cares about the environment.

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Speaker 5: You're such a special person and you're you're wished every

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Speaker 5: little happiness long after the holidays are over. Merry Christmas. Wow,

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Speaker 5: Thank you to my secret Santa, whoever they may be pt.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for keeping it all together. FYI, extra lean beef

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Speaker 5: is seven Merry Christmas cow PS. Well yeah, am I

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Speaker 5: supposed to read that?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, you can read the first part of the PS.

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Speaker 2: Okay, with only the first part.

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Speaker 5: I'm gifting you of BHA family membership cow for anything better,

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Speaker 5: so much. But that's not all. There's also a bottle

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Speaker 5: of some kind m oh here we are Sailor Jerry

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Speaker 7: Oh, the sailor in yourself.

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Speaker 5: That was the go to for my rum and cokes

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Speaker 5: back in college. Thank you so much. Cold and look

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Speaker 5: at this we've got. We've got frozen beef. And I'm

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Speaker 7: No ground out ground four pounds?

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Speaker 1: How much money I'm saving?

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Speaker 5: Yes, if you were to go.

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Speaker 2: Buying ground out, probably more than B twenty bucks a pounds.

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Speaker 7: Right right?

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Speaker 1: I just that's context. Some people need context that.

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Speaker 5: It's not the money, Phil, that's right, secrets, Thank you

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Speaker 5: so much, it's the thought that counts.

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Speaker 7: This will all go to givety gifts sake.

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Speaker 2: Phil, I think we've lost our bed of music. Oh yeah, we'll.

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Speaker 5: Bring it back. Sorry, I've been busy opening.

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Speaker 2: How did you pick Sailor Jerry's when you were looking

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Speaker 4: It's it's because Phil and I had a conversation a

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Speaker 1: Because there's like scary high end realms.

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Speaker 8: But I believe that the tiki crowd feels like Sailor

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Speaker 8: Jerry and Captain Morgan are totally fine for most things.

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Speaker 8: Was that correct for I'd say for for mixing cocktail

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Speaker 8: But if you're gonna make it my tie, I mean honestly, Cal,

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Speaker 8: a that's that's a cardinal sin. But I love Sailor

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Speaker 8: Jerrys and I'll use it.

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Speaker 2: Phil. Have you ever tried Mount Gay. That's some good

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Speaker 2: stuff I have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a lot of.

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Speaker 7: What a gift?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well done, Cal. That's that's fun for you, Phil, Max,

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Speaker 4: It's supposed to be a little something for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Job.

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Speaker 1: I suck at rapping.

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Speaker 2: What do we got there? Maxwell?

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Speaker 7: Is this a puzzle?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Puzzle? Him?

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Speaker 1: Itzed me? Phil?

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Speaker 2: What is this?

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Speaker 1: How do you know?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 3: Was me?

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Speaker 5: That's a game that's a that's a very easy to

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Speaker 5: learn board game called Cascadia where you create wildlife, corridor

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Speaker 5: and habitats for different.

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Speaker 2: When I saw that game existed, I was pissed off.

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Speaker 2: I didn't come up with that. Yeah, isn't this very

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Speaker 2: similar to like what's that game with the square risk you're.

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Speaker 5: Talking about catam I'd say it's it's easier than pick

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Speaker 1: Which is why.

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Speaker 2: Many fun nights to come at the bar house.

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Speaker 1: Board game season.

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Speaker 2: That's great for Maxwell. Next up, Brody up, who's handed

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Speaker 2: a fireball to Max. He's now his gift. Also a

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Speaker 2: swell gift wrapping job here.

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Speaker 7: Someone said Santa's language is going to demonetize this video.

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Speaker 7: I hope the suits don't notice.

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Speaker 1: They definitely will don't.

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Speaker 2: What do we got over there, Brody?

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Speaker 6: Wow, some.

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Speaker 2: Ladies glass bug bug like it, jig heads.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My kids were just asking about ice fish and I

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Speaker 2: was like, man, it's gonna be a while, but we'll

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Speaker 2: get those news this year.

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Speaker 1: Those really glasses.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, No, I didn't need the sex.

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Speaker 1: How do you know?

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Speaker 2: Look they're just round.

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Speaker 7: Look at the shape of them.

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Speaker 2: For christ Si, So Brody got a three pack of

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Speaker 2: readers from the drug store and some ice fishing lures.

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Speaker 1: That's a great present.

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Speaker 7: That's good.

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Speaker 2: You know, I scattered these things everywhere.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking when I when I picked

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Speaker 3: those up for you, Brody, that uh, just leave the people.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna need to wear those to.

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Speaker 2: Tie I know, oh yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you just leave those things everywhere. So that's great.

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Speaker 2: Next up. We have Ryan Callahan who had the same

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Speaker 2: wrapping paper as Brodie's.

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Speaker 7: Gift, because we all used the office wrapping.

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Speaker 2: Paper, it appears. So what do we have there? Caw CEOs.

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Speaker 7: Suit for a suit.

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Speaker 1: That's great America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he has a video so I can learn how

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Speaker 1: to time.

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Speaker 2: That's great with some bald eagles on it.

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Speaker 1: Got some warm up juice. Nice?

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Speaker 4: And what's this one say?

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Speaker 2: He gets a shirt?

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Speaker 7: I didn't mean sorry, I'm late.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to come.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think gave that to you? Cal?

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Speaker 1: I have so many occasions where this is.

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Speaker 2: He would have borne it today, he already had it.

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Speaker 2: Who do you think gave that to you?

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Speaker 1: People who pay attention?

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'll give you a hint. That tie used to

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Speaker 7: belong to my father in law. Okay, very good, Wow

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Speaker 7: a novelty tie.

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Speaker 2: Give me an example of a place he would wear

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Speaker 2: that tie to work? Work? Very good. That'll that'll work

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Speaker 2: well for the future. CEO of VHA, thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I am now going to open my gift, my gift

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Speaker 2: which was wrapped in a meat Eater Trivia Collector's edition

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Speaker 2: animal box.

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Speaker 7: Oh oh, all right.

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Speaker 2: We have some halbit labeled twenty twenty five in here.

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Speaker 2: That is great. I do not have any halbit in

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Speaker 2: a freezer, nor have you got a nice gift twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five that is phenomenal. I had to line up

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Speaker 2: the gift exchange so I know this came from Brody,

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Speaker 2: and Brody even warned me. He said, you drew the

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Speaker 2: short straw by having by me or by Brody having

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Speaker 2: my name. But that is a phenomenal gift.

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Speaker 5: I gotta tell you, Spencer, I was really torn about

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Speaker 5: giving that back.

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Speaker 2: What do you think I should do with this? King salmon?

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Speaker 2: Give me a recommendation. Well, you're gonna let your wife

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Speaker 2: eat it with you or she's uninterested in Is that right?

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Speaker 2: That's right? This is gonna be for me. This is

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Speaker 2: just gonna be for me. I think I should cook

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Speaker 2: that very simply. You could grill it, you know, butter lemon.

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Speaker 7: Whatever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, don't overdo it.

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Speaker 1: As you said, don't ever do that.

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Speaker 2: Don't overdo it. Good advice, Brody. That is a wonderful gift.

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Speaker 2: That's well done, very efficient. Next up we have Seth

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Speaker 2: Now who has how many gifts are in front of you?

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Speaker 7: Someone must have been a very good boy.

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Speaker 2: They're numbered so I gotta okay, I assume that you

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Speaker 2: should start with number one. It looks like, all right,

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Speaker 2: here we go. This one is wrapped like as though

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Speaker 2: a candy, maybe giant piece of candy. Sure a baseball

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Speaker 2: bat would fit in there.

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Speaker 1: What could this be wrapped in? Butcher paper, carrot?

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Speaker 7: My dogs have the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I wouldn't. I wouldn't recognize that as a dog toy?

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Speaker 1: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 2: Giant dog? That's the size of your dog. The thing

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Speaker 2: is that's a Boon and Crockett Carr your dog?

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Speaker 1: Do your dogs like it? Will my dog like it?

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Speaker 2: Santa? What do your dog like that?

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Speaker 7: No, they're scared of any toy that squeaks.

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Speaker 2: Now he's got a T shirt.

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Speaker 7: That's my shirt. That's shirt? What what the hell? No

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Speaker 7: arms from my own house. This is cultural appropriate.

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Speaker 2: Seth is now open. There's a T shirt.

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Speaker 7: This isn't a gun.

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Speaker 2: These are an ape on the front and the other

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Speaker 2: is a lebron James jersey. Now he's on the gift

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Speaker 2: number three.

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Speaker 7: That's not yours, Randall, this is mine, It is mine.

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Speaker 1: Oh look at these A new pair of shoes had

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Speaker 1: been warning.

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Speaker 2: It's very well used.

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Speaker 7: Shoes that looks familiar. These are all my most treasured possessions. Seth.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know you're going to start playing basketball. That

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Speaker 2: is a great shirt.

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Speaker 7: I was just wearing that the other day.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's that's kind of weird you would give him

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Speaker 2: all this stuff? Man?

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Speaker 7: Did you give all this to me?

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

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Speaker 7: No, I don't know how this got here.

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Speaker 2: You better talk to missus Clas.

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Speaker 7: Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Since Randall's not here, you might want to consider regifting those.

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Speaker 7: Jackson Hayes of the Los Angeles Lakers gave me a

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Speaker 7: fist bump and said, sweet Jersey Bra, that's my legit.

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Speaker 2: Very good, lord, legit your hands off now it belongs

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Speaker 2: to Seth Son of them. That is set story.

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Speaker 7: Now, I'm bewildered by this. This is a horrible prank.

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Speaker 2: How about you opened up Randall's gift now they're Santa.

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Speaker 7: Okay, he's gonna need a gift card to pay for

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Speaker 7: all the stuff that he's lost.

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Speaker 2: Again. We have a dog toy, jersey, a T shirt,

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Speaker 2: and a pair of sneakers. This is a gift card

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Speaker 2: to d og d o g Oh, that's a pet place,

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Speaker 2: a pet place.

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Speaker 7: That's good. I have three Randall has three pets and

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Speaker 7: they're all very needy, so he will be most appreciative

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Speaker 7: of this.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, Santa, let's try to solve the crime of

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Speaker 2: how these gifts wound up in Seth's possession. What do

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Speaker 2: you think happened here?

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Speaker 7: My wife was in on it.

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Speaker 5: I know that.

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Speaker 7: But also we don't lock our house very often.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's not look on it.

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Speaker 7: We caught that film.

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Speaker 2: I think your full name is on your land these shoes?

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Speaker 2: Does My dog hates this toy?

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Speaker 7: Sy hates that shirt, but I didn't know that she

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Speaker 7: didn't like these shirts. I was literally wearing this just

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Speaker 7: the other day. It's from the San Diego Zoom and

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Speaker 7: it made her juvenile.

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Speaker 2: Orangutand okay, so you've accused Cal with it. Was not Cal.

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Speaker 7: I only know. I only think of Cal because he

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Speaker 7: often is in and out out of my home.

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Speaker 2: Was not Cal?

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Speaker 7: Who else? Well, I suppose anybody could have slid into

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Speaker 7: her d MS.

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Speaker 2: On who's the next suspect?

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Speaker 7: Fill the engine?

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Speaker 1: It was not filled. It's like he's just lashing out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Spencer, it.

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Speaker 1: Was Yeah, I slid into in these dms.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I actually did. Max was so proud

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Speaker 2: of this idea. He hasn't done a thing at work

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Speaker 2: all week, just preparing this.

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Speaker 7: To impressed that I recognized this toy and you.

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Speaker 1: Said it right away.

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Speaker 2: Oh my dogs have the same toy.

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Speaker 5: Missus Klaus gets lonely this time.

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Speaker 7: Ye watch your dirty mouth. Oh I'm having so much

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Speaker 7: I didn't wear much of a layer under this suit

456
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Speaker 7: because it was so warm last year. But I'm having

457
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Speaker 7: so much fun sweating again.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Max and Sydney, you guys had to meet up

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Speaker 2: in town, I imagine this week.

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Speaker 7: Oh that's fun.

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Speaker 2: Very good. Now we have a real gift here for Seth.

462
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Speaker 2: Just pull that bow.

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 2: This is our final gift of the day.

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Speaker 7: That's I hope it's something you treasure, someone's taken out

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Speaker 7: of your home, your knowledge, apple butter.

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Speaker 1: Butter. Okay, that's great.

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Speaker 3: Oh some salsa m m okay, spicy restaurant style, there

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Speaker 3: you go, my favorite?

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Speaker 2: Your favorite? Wow?

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Speaker 7: Okay, you like restaurant style.

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Speaker 9: I do.

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Speaker 1: Some big old cook cookies. Oh my, who's this from?

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Speaker 1: That's for me?

475
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Speaker 2: When when pantry last night made you some cookies and

476
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Speaker 2: trying to get good at baking a few things, made

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Speaker 2: some cookies and then uh, it's.

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Speaker 1: Got some salt on there.

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Speaker 2: That's right, you can share.

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Speaker 7: That makes her a good cookie.

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Speaker 2: Seth also has a pregnant wife at home, so maybe

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Speaker 2: we got to leave one for her as well. Leave

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Speaker 2: one sorry, no milk, Sanna. Yeah, these are fantastical, thank you.

484
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Speaker 2: I'm just getting into baking. I'm trying to be like

485
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Speaker 2: not a one trick pony, but like a three trick pony.

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Speaker 2: So I want to learn how to make cookies first,

487
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Speaker 2: and then you know, I think I'm gonna move on

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Speaker 2: to banana bread soon. The apple butter that was made

489
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Speaker 2: with apples I found on my Idaho deer hunt this

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Speaker 2: year off from the mountains. I made that, and I

491
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Speaker 2: made the sauce, the salta ingredients those are just from

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Speaker 2: from Albertson's. The cookies though, the eggs came from my neighbor,

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Speaker 2: so some Gallatin Valley eggs there for you.

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Speaker 1: So did you make the labels?

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Speaker 2: My wife did. That's being married to a graphic designer.

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Speaker 2: You even got there, made the labels for it, the

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Speaker 2: ingredients on it. That's right, then, you know, in case

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Speaker 2: you're your allergic to anything, very good guest.

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Speaker 8: This year, s everybody did grating from Santa.

500
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Speaker 7: Now, I'm really the mood. This was a terrible mistake.

501
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Speaker 7: It doesn't breathe.

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Speaker 5: Well, Santa Randall didn't show up today, if you wouldn't

503
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Speaker 5: mind filling in for him, Yeah, I suppose.

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Speaker 1: This, Santa.

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Speaker 2: Your leatherman jacket from high school is upstairs in my office.

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Speaker 7: Oh ship, that one's awesome too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 7: This jersey interestingly enough, has several typos on the back.

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Speaker 2: Oh, very interesting.

510
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 7: There's an extra digit under one of Lebron's Uh oh,

511
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Speaker 7: where's that? I'll find it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good stuff from Santa Claus.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: That is the twenty five med Eater Radio gift.

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Speaker 7: So it says he won the most valuable player in

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Speaker 7: the year two zero zero one zero, which, as we

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Speaker 7: all know, was in the distant future.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Santa.

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Speaker 5: Will you still be around them?

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00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 5: I wasn't sure if there was like a Santa Claus

522
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Speaker 5: ten Allen situation where someone would take your place.

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00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 7: No, there's no plan for succession in my line.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Media radio will still be going on as well,

525
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: that's right. Oh, and Santa is gonna stick around for

526
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Speaker 2: the rest of the show.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I will do. Thanks for joining us for this holiday.

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Speaker 2: Yee, Brody, Maxwell and Call are going to disappear, Phil,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, of course, fireball to be gone when I

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Speaker 5: check in later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll work on it. We'll work on it, all right,

533
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Speaker 2: Thank you boy, Christmas, We will see you later. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's take a break for some listener feedback. Goodness, what's

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Speaker 2: the chat have to say?

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Speaker 5: Okay, a Hunter says, ask Santa if he thinks anybody

537
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Speaker 5: is gonna stop the thunder this year?

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00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 7: The two damn good. But if recent NBA history tells

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Speaker 7: it's anything, it's that uh Shay gilges Alexander will rupt

540
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Speaker 7: her as a Chilleres tendon because that's what happens to

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Speaker 7: the best players in the league.

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Speaker 2: Very good, Well, nicolea Jokic is the best player in

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Speaker 2: the league. Oh sure, so you take that back. Oh

544
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: the Nuggets are gonna stop Okay, see this year, that's

545
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Speaker 2: what's gonna happen there, M Hunter's hut.

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Speaker 5: Jonathan Wahlberg asks, what is your recommendation for processing dear shanks,

547
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 5: specifically for Asbuko, I struggle to make clean cuts through

548
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 5: the bone when thought and don't have a band saw

549
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 5: to use when frozen sALS all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I use sALS all.

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Speaker 2: Cut through the meat that you can with a knife

552
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Speaker 2: and then do the rest of it with the sALS

553
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Speaker 2: all and you'll be just fine.

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Speaker 7: Or go to a butcher and ask if they can

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Speaker 7: band saw it there.

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Speaker 3: You go, like the salls all too, specifically the ones

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Speaker 3: that you can just like you grab bond to the

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Speaker 3: kind of the top of it. M h. It's easier

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Speaker 3: to hold that one that kind and and then be

560
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Speaker 3: able to hold the shank too and just zip through them.

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Speaker 2: You know, pretty quickly if you have the right blade

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Speaker 2: on your saws all when you're going through bone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you can go on Amazon two or wherever butcher

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Speaker 3: products are sold and buy stainless steel saws all blades

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Speaker 3: specific for that.

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Speaker 2: Do they do they are they labeled like steel or

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Speaker 2: wood or do they say bone on them? I'm always

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Speaker 2: using ones that are labeled for wood or steel.

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Speaker 3: You know, I just I just went on on I

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Speaker 3: think I got them on Amazon, and they're like specific

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Speaker 3: bone saw like butchering blades that to the tool chest.

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Speaker 2: M you know.

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Speaker 5: Those are pretty much the only real substantive questions people

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Speaker 5: have been.

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Speaker 7: Distracted And I would hope entertain one question.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully entertained chat maybe maybe brew up some questions for

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Speaker 2: Santa for the next time we check in with you.

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Speaker 2: If you want to know, if someone's on the knot

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Speaker 2: of your nice list, what Santa does in the off season.

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Speaker 2: Please shoot those questions over well and we'll address him

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Speaker 2: in about a half hour.

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Speaker 5: Oh, this one's very substantive. Seth Jones says he was

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Speaker 5: skeptical at the start of the D and D episode,

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Speaker 5: me and you both, Seth. He didn't really enjoy it though,

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Speaker 5: and would like to see more interesting comments. Seth, thanks

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Speaker 5: agating it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good stuff. We'll try to get more of that

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 7: Spencer, if you had to eat Randall, how would you

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Speaker 7: cook him?

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Speaker 2: Well, what do you think, Santa?

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Speaker 1: Oh, well done, well done?

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Speaker 7: You don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an old ruddy buck. We probably got to

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Speaker 2: marinate him overnight. Go low and slow, not the hot

597
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Speaker 2: and fast kind of meat.

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Speaker 7: And you're gonna have a lot of rendering to do afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that we'll sort that all out in the crap.

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Speaker 5: How about one more, Spencer, because this one it's a

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Speaker 5: gun to deer season.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 5: Does that mean something.

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Speaker 2: It means they have multiple gun seasons and this is

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Speaker 2: number two.

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Speaker 5: Gun beer I gotcha this week in Iowa and the

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Speaker 5: daily Heiser three and one degrees. You think it's worth

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Speaker 5: my time in the woods to go out or should

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Speaker 5: they wait until Monday when the heiser in the thirties.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that is the best time to go out, especially

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Speaker 2: if you have access to agriculture in Iowa. I assume

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Speaker 2: it's going to be beans or corn for you, even

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Speaker 2: if that field has been harvested already. The deer got

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Speaker 2: to eat every day. They're going to be out there.

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Speaker 2: They're going to pile into agriculture in your neighborhood. If

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Speaker 2: you have it, be out there, PMJ. I would be

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Speaker 2: very excited about those temperatures rather than pessimistic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wouldn't I wouldn't be shy about sitting

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Speaker 3: all day if you can, if you can handle.

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Speaker 7: It, Yes, when it's very cold at the North Pole,

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Speaker 7: my friends are on their feet all day. If I

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Speaker 7: were trying to shoot them, that's when I'd go out.

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Speaker 2: Very good. And what cartridge would you take if you

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Speaker 2: were trying to shoot them?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 1: What census gun safe look like?

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Speaker 7: I'm a traditionalist. As you know, I'm atritionalist. Frequently. If

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Speaker 7: I were to calm I herd, it would most likely

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Speaker 7: be with a thirty thirty.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that is a tradition.

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Speaker 7: Wow, there's a lot of guts in reindeer, so you

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Speaker 7: know they're they're bigger animals. But you really don't need

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Speaker 7: to shoot them with a big magnum or anything. Just

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Speaker 7: get a nice expanding bullet and put it in the

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Speaker 7: front half.

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Speaker 2: There you go. All right, we will do some more

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Speaker 2: listening questions at the end of the show.

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Speaker 5: Please, I'll try to pay more attention to this name

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Speaker 5: for Santa.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 2: Joining us on the line now is Kurt Steiner, the

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Speaker 2: man who holds the world record for skipping a rock

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Speaker 2: eighty eight times. Kurt, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Good to be here.

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Speaker 2: First, first thing, Kurt, thank you. Take us back to

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Speaker 2: that day in twenty thirteen when you set the world record.

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Speaker 2: Where were you at and what was it about that

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Speaker 2: particular throw that made it the greatest throw of all time?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Well, can I give you a brief bit of

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Speaker 6: context here?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Please?

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Speaker 9: I had actually I set the record originally in two

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Speaker 9: thousand and two, where I kind of introduced some new

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Speaker 9: power kind of attack methods to stone skipping, and that

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Speaker 9: held for five years, and a guy, a buddy of

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Speaker 9: mine since passed, but he took the record in two

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Speaker 9: thousand and seven.

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Speaker 6: So then it was on.

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Speaker 9: You know, we've been fighting each other for ten years,

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Speaker 9: kind of developing this whole sport really, and twenty thirteen

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Speaker 9: came and I've been saving stones probably for ten years,

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Speaker 9: wait for the day. Yeah, yeah, because you know, mother

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Speaker 9: nature never seems fit to like make exactly the right stone,

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Speaker 9: so you put it aside, you save it for tournament

666
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Speaker 9: or in this case, a record attempt, And so I

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Speaker 9: had about five hundred stones set aside, which was it

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Speaker 9: was enough for two attempts. The first one I kind

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Speaker 9: of blew early in twenty thirteen in July because I

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Speaker 9: didn't get a good camera angle on it.

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Speaker 6: So September rolls around.

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Speaker 9: Long story short, I was ready for a second attempt,

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Speaker 9: and so I had my wife put her up on

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Speaker 9: a bridge and so you could look down on the

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Speaker 9: stones and you could count the ripples much better, and

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Speaker 9: it was it was.

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Speaker 6: It was a bit of a magical day. I won't lie.

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Speaker 9: I kind of had things lined up for me I

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Speaker 9: had a bit of a tailwind, which helps, but I

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00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 9: also had a little bit of a low onshore kind

681
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 9: of ripple coming at me. So it was a good

682
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 9: combination for various technical reasons. And I just threw the

683
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 9: hell out of that stone.

684
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 6: And you know, I went through. I probably threw one

685
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 6: hundred that day, and I narrowed it down to looking

686
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 6: at a frame by frame, finally sent it out and I,

687
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 6: you know, I had a group of counts between eighty

688
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 6: eight and ninety, so I just took the lowest one,

689
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 6: figuring that's kind of like everybody agrees on that. And

690
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 6: it's held up very good.

691
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: Wow, eighty eight skip throw. It's still the record to

692
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: this day. Now, you've been competing in stone skipping competitions

693
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: around the world for twenty five years. Explain to us

694
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: how these competitions are set up and how they differ

695
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: in the US versus Europe.

696
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 6: Right, Well, the US, yeah, oh oh okay, yeah, yeah,

697
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 6: I thought you lost me.

698
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 9: In the US, we basically count skips and that's what

699
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 9: stone skipping is. In Europe, they actually count distance. They

700
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 9: measure the distance you throw and to distinguish what they

701
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 9: call it skimming. So I've been in both tournaments. I

702
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 9: went to UK in twenty eighteen and and I threw

703
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 9: three hundred and seventy three feet and it and that,

704
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 9: and that was at that time the longest recorded throw

705
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 9: of a natural stone. But then the next day, twenty

706
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 9: four hours later, Scottish guy came down and Dougie Isaac's

707
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 9: and threw four hundred feet. So so I'm still he

708
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 9: still got the record at four hundred there, but I'm

709
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 9: I still got the skip count, and I'm and I'm

710
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 9: and I'm well placed in the in the skimming category.

711
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 9: The other thing is the Japanese happened to also be

712
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 9: a bit of a hotspot, so it's kind of New England, US,

713
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 9: the British and then and then Japan and the Japanese

714
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 9: kind of combine everything and they just they have two

715
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 9: guys throw and decide they just judge who threw the

716
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 9: better rock on that throw, and they just kind of

717
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 9: go through that and a kind of round robin and

718
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 9: a best of three format, and eventually you know, they

719
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 9: spit it out a good winner. It's kind of a

720
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 9: combination of the esthetic appearance of it, distance, skip down,

721
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 9: all of it together, so they're all different flavors, and

722
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 9: we've all kind of cross pollinated each other over the

723
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 9: decades here, and and I kind of take you know,

724
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 9: I would take a little bit of pride in being

725
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 9: kind of pushing all that, sacrificing a lot of my

726
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 9: life to.

727
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 6: Do, you know, playing playing you know that's great now,

728
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 6: even making the thing.

729
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: You know, you usually bring your own stones to competitions.

730
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: Where do you gather your rocks from?

731
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I get about ninety percent of my stones from

732
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 9: the southeast coast of Lake Erie. I grew up in Erie,

733
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 9: you know, which is between Cleveland and Buffalo there and

734
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 9: the geology and the water, you know, the waves of

735
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 9: Lake Erie kind of combined and make a really good

736
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 9: skipping rock.

737
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 6: That's where I grew up right there.

738
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 9: Now, of course I'm living up on a mountain off

739
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 9: grid here in Apalachia, PA. And so I have to

740
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 9: drive three hours to get my rocks. I got all

741
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 9: the water in the world, but the stones are ship

742
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 9: you know. But uh, I'm going up to see my mom,

743
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 9: get some rocks, come back and have some fun. Uh Yeah,

744
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 9: And and uh, the the Scottish have a place up

745
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 9: in North Scotland with some really great slate, And there's

746
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 9: a place up in North Vermont with some really really

747
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 9: beautiful rocks, but I put.

748
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 6: The ones I go to very accessible, and they're kind

749
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 6: of like number four on my World Best list, you know.

750
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: So I got Lucky described for us the perfect rock.

751
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 9: Uh, it kind of depends like that's like saying, what's

752
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 9: the perfect tool? You know, it's it's you got to

753
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 9: know what is it? What is it you're trying to do?

754
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 9: And then and then you look for those features in

755
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 9: the stone and and it takes many years of kind

756
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 9: of being able to imagine. Imagine if you were a

757
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 9: you know, I don't know, a pitcher or a bowler

758
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 9: or a hockey player or something, and every time you

759
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 9: went to take a whack at the thing or throw

760
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 9: the thing, it was a different size of different shape,

761
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 9: different weight, out of balance.

762
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 6: You know.

763
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 9: So so the skill is in learning how to look

764
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 9: through all the junk and find the one that's gonna

765
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 9: do what you want. And and so with that preface there,

766
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 9: what I would say is, in general, you're gonna want

767
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 9: something that's got a very flat bottom. You're gonna want

768
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 9: something that's kind of got a very smooth texture. Those

769
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 9: are kind of the obvious ones. Something to look for

770
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 9: is between the bottom side and the edge, that kind

771
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 9: of transition edge right here. What I would say is

772
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 9: that the flatter the water, the sharper that edge can be.

773
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 9: And so you there's a lot of experimentation, a lot

774
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 9: of trying this, seeing what happens, and then and then

775
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 9: adapting your next throw to that. And what I would

776
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 9: say though, is, you know, I generally throw four to

777
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 9: six ounces. Uh you know, we're throwing probably around seventy

778
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 9: miles an hour and maybe twenty five maybe twenty five

779
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 9: hundred or three thousand rpm.

780
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 6: Right so.

781
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 9: A distance thrower will back off the spin a little

782
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 9: bit and go for more velocity.

783
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 6: You know, I spent like five years, you know, figuring

784
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 6: out like that kind of whip rate there.

785
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 9: If you can see that where I'm pulling down to

786
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 9: the ground and then driving back up against my my

787
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 9: my body and then letting my hands snap out, and

788
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 9: that really generates some good spin and that and that

789
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 9: spin and turn with all the well kind of chop

790
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 9: the water kind of like a like maybe a hydroplane

791
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 9: boat propeller kind of you know, chopping at it, and

792
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 9: that adds up so uh so basically flat bottom kind

793
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 9: of a maybe a radius of curvature on that bottom

794
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 9: edge of maybe maybe an eighth of an inch. Uh,

795
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 9: you know, something about the size of your palm, maybe

796
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 9: four to five ounces.

797
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 6: Uh and and uh smooth.

798
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 7: You know.

799
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 6: The main thing is that bottom edge.

800
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 9: You just can't have any jaggedness in it or it

801
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 9: will bite the water, just like like trying to run

802
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 9: a radio saw backwards.

803
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: Right.

804
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 9: It's you need you need all the sharpness on your

805
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 9: the bottom edge of that stone to be kind of

806
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 9: feathering the water rather than biting into it.

807
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 6: If you can understand what I'm saying.

808
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, Kurt, you mentioned when you the day that

809
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: you threw the record there, you had some ripples in

810
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: the water.

811
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: Do you prefer that over flat calm or what do

812
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: you prefer there?

813
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 6: Yeah?

814
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think of think of driving over

815
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 9: rumblestret right you're tired, gets some kind of a harmonic

816
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 9: there and uh and so you're you're kind of it's

817
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 9: the same kind of deal where if you're running over

818
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 9: the tops of just very regular ripples, it kind of

819
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 9: creates a like a stone's running over rumblestick strip. And uh,

820
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 9: the way I I mean I had some lucky waves

821
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 9: coming out. I say a wave, I mean I'm talking

822
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 9: like that much of a wave. That regular like one

823
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 9: foot intervals was just enough. But I also did kind

824
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 9: of a trick where I threw like a real deep

825
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 9: stone out and then if you wait just the right

826
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 9: amount of time ripples right, they kind of leave a

827
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 9: nice Uh.

828
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 6: Wow, that was a bit of a veteran trick there.

829
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, and uh so, uh yeah, Because if the

830
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 9: water's too flat, what will happen is that the stone

831
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 9: will eventually bog down, just like like a baby. You

832
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 9: throw a baseball and all bounce, bounce, bounce like a grounder.

833
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 9: But then it'll kind of roll on the ground. This

834
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 9: is just like having a bumpy ground. So it kind

835
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 9: of keeps kicking up, you know, and it keeps kicking

836
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 9: it up, and so you can get more count out

837
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 9: of it. But power, there's usually enough power in your

838
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 9: throat you get a lot of skips, but once it

839
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 9: bogs and sticks to the water, like guinness, basically will

840
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 9: only count. The basic rule for counting in a world

841
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 9: record is you have to have a distinct evidence of

842
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 9: the water stone contacting the water, and then in whatever

843
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 9: next frame at some point you have to show clear

844
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 9: water between each contact point. So if you have a

845
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 9: stone that hits the slides ten feet, even though it

846
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 9: might look like ten or twenty skips in there and

847
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 9: it comes out as like one, right, you have one

848
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 9: water intext And so the great thing about that throw

849
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 9: I didn't thirteen with. It had very distinct, separate skips.

850
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 9: And you know, and I won't lie, it's it's been

851
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 9: kind of hard on the old body here. I'm starting

852
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 9: to age out.

853
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 6: I won't lie. I got some veteran tricks, but you know,

854
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 6: I've had i'd be like a rotator cuff surgery.

855
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: And in.

856
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 6: Twenty eighteen when I threw that three seventy three, I.

857
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 9: Ripped an oblique muscle and I blew up like a

858
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 9: football and that was That was a nasty one.

859
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 6: On that one.

860
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 9: But now now I need knee injections, you know, from

861
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 9: coming down hard, because if you imagine, it's like a

862
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 9: baseball player maybe starting real high, like maybe seven feet up,

863
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 9: but we're letting the stones leave our hand, like maybe

864
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 9: only a foot off the ground, but we're really coming

865
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 9: down into that shot, and it just you know, it

866
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 9: just it's it's it's it's it's you know, I took

867
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 9: this fun little thing and turned it into like this.

868
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 9: You know, it's great, brutal, brutal like sports science kind

869
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 9: of thing, and oh it's great. You know it's great.

870
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 9: Now it's uh, Kurt.

871
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: We want to we want to be better at skipping

872
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: rocks ourselves. So please walk us through the perfect form.

873
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: What should our feet, our arms, our hands be doing

874
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: to make the best throw?

875
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 6: Difficult question to answer. But what I can do is

876
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 6: give you some pointers.

877
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 9: Right, I'm not going to tell you here's how you

878
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 9: throw a stone at thirty Yeah, you know, but but

879
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 9: as a rule of thumb, you.

880
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 6: Know you want to stand more.

881
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 9: You don't want to You want to kind of stand

882
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 9: maybe forty five degrees almost perpendicular to the water, right

883
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 9: with your your your fallow foot to the water.

884
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 6: But the main thing is you're gonna want to come

885
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 6: down at the water. Right. There's like, there's five things

886
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 6: to think about. I guess, Okay, the angle of the stone.

887
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 9: Coming at the water, right, if you let go from

888
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 9: around your knees and hit the water maybe ten ten

889
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 9: twelve feet out, that's a good all round angle, right,

890
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 9: So figure leaving the stone leaving between your waist and

891
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 9: your knee and hitting you know, maybe ten feet out,

892
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 9: and then there's the tilt of the stone right the

893
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 9: front edge of the rock. You want something that's maybe

894
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 9: ten degrees ten to twenty degrees coming out of your hand.

895
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 9: And the rule there is if the stone bounces up

896
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 9: too high after that, after that first skip, then lower

897
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 9: the edge down right. So most people will throw with

898
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 9: too much of an angle, it will bounce high, and

899
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 9: the pros tend to throw with a real shallow angle,

900
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 9: so it comes down and then takes off horors only.

901
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 9: So if it bounces up lower that tilt come in,

902
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 9: you know, maybe like that. And then other things is

903
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 9: the spin. The spin is just gonna come out naturally,

904
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 9: but you are gonna want to hold the stone at

905
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 9: What I would say is if you look around the perimeter,

906
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 9: it's gonna have different like radii like it's it's got

907
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 9: different lengths depending on the irregularity of the rock.

908
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 6: You want to grab. Grab the longest point on the rock,

909
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 6: like put it right in the middle of your pad

910
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 6: of your finger.

911
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 9: Or your middle finger, which which I have developed also

912
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 9: for different throws, but but right in the middle of

913
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 9: that tip of the pad on the point down at

914
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 9: that angle. And then if you want a little throw

915
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 9: tip or secret when you when your rocks leaving your

916
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 9: hand right this direction, I usually throw it just a

917
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 9: little bit of right hand roll in it right like

918
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 9: the stone is spinning clockwise for a right handed person,

919
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 9: and I'm leaning that right edge, the outside edge, if

920
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 9: you will, of the stone towards the water a little

921
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 9: because as the stone flies through the air, if you notice,

922
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 9: it'll roll over, uh counterclockwise. So just kind of loading

923
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 9: that stone a tad with just maybe two degrees of

924
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 9: of roll pre roll, pre loading the stone. By the

925
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 9: time it hits the water, it'll come down a little

926
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 9: bit flatter, and it makes it a little more stable

927
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 9: and sticks a little better.

928
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: You know.

929
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 6: It's it's it's subtle stuff.

930
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: A lot of physics. It sounds like it is it is,

931
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: and and it does come.

932
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 9: Down a lot to the difference between a natural and

933
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 9: an artificial rock. I'm kind of a purest. Natural rocks

934
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 9: are much harder to uh master, so there's a little

935
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 9: bit more prestige, I think, yeah, and throwing what.

936
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 6: I won't lie. I mean, we have especially in Europe

937
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 6: where they're they're just looking for distance numbers, right they

938
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 6: they they'll go, they'll make artificial rocks and they'll blast

939
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 6: the guy just last month threw a stone over five

940
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 6: hundred feet, as I understand it, using an artificial stone.

941
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 6: So that's that's all well and good.

942
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 9: But uh, you know, Isaac's when he beat me, he

943
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 9: threw he threw four hundred with a natural rock, and

944
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 9: I consider that actually even more impressive because he went

945
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 9: out and dug it out of the ground.

946
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 5: You know.

947
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 2: Good, Yeah, all right, Well, good luck to your next competition. Kurt.

948
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 2: Congrats on that eighty eight skip world record throw. Thank

949
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: you for educating us, and thank you for joining us.

950
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, thanks for the opportunity. Dudes cost some fun.

951
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 7: Thank you, Kurt. I think that's the best interview I've

952
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 7: ever done. It's not often we have an interview where

953
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 7: I just sit there and watch and I'm fully entranced

954
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 7: by our guest. But that was that was something special.

955
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 5: Means a lot that you're saying, we Santa like you

956
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 5: just kind of feel like you're a part of the crew.

957
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: That's a good phil Do you you boys fashion yourself

958
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: good rock skippers?

959
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 7: No?

960
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: I you know, I grew up. It sounds like not

961
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: too far from from where.

962
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: He's in the blood.

963
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, you know, I never really hit the

964
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: banks of Lake Erie to find a good skipping wrong,

965
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 3: but I've skipped some rocks in my day.

966
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 7: You've missed out on your calling. I guess I prefer

967
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 7: to find the biggest rock I can get one skip

968
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 7: out of.

969
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: That's that's awesome, that's my approach. See how badly you

970
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: can hurt your arm.

971
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 7: That was fascinating.

972
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: That was That was good? All right.

973
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 2: Our next segment is gear talk.

974
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 7: Turn it up, Phil.

975
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: Feet because he doesn't have a choice.

976
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 5: Gear again?

977
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: Who the problem?

978
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 5: The problem with that one is that Giannis isn't here today.

979
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: That's brilliant and he rewrote that jingle. You must have

980
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: been feeling inspired.

981
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 5: I give us a new version the true story Spencers.

982
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 5: I forgot that I had a jingle for that. Oh

983
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 5: talk jingles.

984
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 7: Okay, Phil, I don't mean to tell you how to

985
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 7: do your job, but.

986
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 5: Put the one up.

987
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: I meant to do that one.

988
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 5: Thank you, Santa. This is you are a part of

989
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 5: the crew.

990
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: All right, Yes, Sanka, please start us off with some

991
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: gear talk today. What do you got?

992
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 7: Well, hold on one second.

993
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: Okay, he's uh, he's not fully prepared. Now he's grabbed

994
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: something from the shelf. I brought two items today, all right.

995
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: The first is this hat. Beautiful hat.

996
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 7: Now folks out there might say, oh, he's plugging first

997
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 7: light again in first lighting, He's not. This is the

998
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 7: best hat I've ever worn outside. It combines an almost

999
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 7: full sized brim that you'd find on a baseball cap

1000
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 7: with a very warm wool, much like the wool in

1001
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 7: our heavy, heavyweight sweaters and things of that nature whose

1002
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 7: names I'm not remembering, but I often wear two hats.

1003
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 7: When I have two hats when I go outside. I'll

1004
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 7: have a lightweight hat in late season that I can

1005
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 7: hike in and get sweaty, and then I like to

1006
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 7: have a heavy hat that I can put on when

1007
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get cold. The problem is I don't want

1008
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 7: to carry a third hat, so if I need a brim,

1009
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 7: it often requires me to either bring a baseball cap

1010
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 7: or bring a third hat, which I don't want to do.

1011
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 7: So this is my first piece of gear.

1012
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: Very good.

1013
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: Where's this hat fit in your kit?

1014
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 5: Oh?

1015
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 7: This isn't performance kit. This is just a uniform ceremonial. Really,

1016
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 7: the second is this Asiac tripod head.

1017
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: Now I'm in the market for a new tripod, so

1018
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to need you to sell me on this one.

1019
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 7: I'd like to focus just on the head. I have

1020
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 7: never never liked lightweight tripods very much.

1021
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 2: To me.

1022
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 7: They don't serve the purpose of a tripod, which is

1023
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 7: stabilizing your gear, your glass, what have you. And I

1024
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 7: find a panhead to be the most useful type of

1025
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 7: head for glassing large areas because you can work your

1026
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 7: way methodically across the landscape as opposed to a ball

1027
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 7: head where you simply loosen it and tilted around, especially

1028
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 7: when using a heavy pair of binoculars like osi IS

1029
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 7: eighteen with a fifty six milimeter objective or a spotting scope,

1030
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 7: and so this head. Typically you need a heavier pan head.

1031
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 7: But this head, which I just got this year, is

1032
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 7: extremely white, lightweight, it's extremely compact, and it allows a

1033
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 7: much lighter tripod to function as with the same performance

1034
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 7: as a heavier tripod. So I'm now a light tripod man, okay.

1035
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 7: And it's all due to the quality of this head.

1036
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 7: It has very fine adjustments, so you can have it

1037
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 7: so you can use your nose to knock your binoculars

1038
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 7: around if you've got your hands in your podusts. It

1039
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 7: also locks up tight if you're in a windy environment

1040
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 7: and trying to glass something far away. And I just

1041
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 7: can't say enough about this pan head. It's just fabulous,

1042
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 7: very good gear talk review.

1043
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: This year, on my South Dakota deer hunt, I had

1044
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: pulled up to an approach for the property I was hunting.

1045
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: I'd gotten out, I was glassing some deer off of

1046
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: my spotter that I could see about a half mile away.

1047
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: Messed around for a while, got in out of the truck,

1048
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 2: looking at on X, looking through the spotter. Probably sat

1049
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 2: there for like a half hour, went to leave, pull away,

1050
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: and crunch. I run over my tripod with the spotting

1051
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: scope on. It did not damage the spotting scope, luckily,

1052
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: but I crushed my tripod that I've had for like

1053
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: a decade and it was a crampy tripod. So now

1054
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 2: like conveniently, I just get to get a new tripod.

1055
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 7: That's fantastic. Highly recommend this. Okay, Okay, I ran over

1056
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 7: last year, did the same thing back in my truck

1057
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 7: in the dark, lean my tripod and binos against the

1058
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 7: truck while I fumbled for my keys, got in the

1059
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 7: old truck and drove home and thought, damn, where is

1060
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 7: those binos? Went back the next day. I didn't run

1061
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 7: them over. Someone else did, but they were just toast.

1062
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: How do you know you didn't run them over?

1063
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 7: Well, you could see the trucks, okay. And I wouldn't

1064
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 7: be happy with myself if I were responsible, So I

1065
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 7: blame it on whoever pilled in there.

1066
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: For me there. Yeah, you gave it a quick death.

1067
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: There was no suffering, all right, seth? What do you

1068
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: got for gear? Talk?

1069
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: What I got is very inexpensive. In fact, it's free

1070
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 3: and it's very effective. It's not the bino harness, which

1071
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: this is a great bin of harness, a bitchf gear.

1072
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: But it's what I keep in the side over here.

1073
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: And this is you know, this has become I would say,

1074
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 3: more and more popular over the years. But instead of

1075
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: having one of them, like you know the little puffer

1076
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 3: bottles for my wndicator, this is milk weed.

1077
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: Love it.

1078
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 1: Oh, this is just natural material.

1079
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: Send some of that into the act milkweed for us.

1080
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: Look how I don't know if you can see this?

1081
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: Look how it just floats?

1082
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: Uh huh it's wonderful love milk weed.

1083
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: It just floats.

1084
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: You can watch that stuff float away for one hundred yards.

1085
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, especially if you're in a tree stand where

1086
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 3: you're elevated. You drop a piece of that, you can

1087
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 3: see exactly where your sense going. And like you said,

1088
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: I've sat there with my binoculars and watched it go

1089
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 3: one hundred plus yards out from where I was sitting.

1090
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: You can, you can see exactly where your sen's blowing.

1091
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: You just keep some in the side pouch. You're buying

1092
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: a harness, Yep.

1093
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 3: Yep, keep it right there, and it's just always ready

1094
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 3: to go when I need it. And it's very cheap

1095
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 3: because it's natural, and I get it right off the landscape.

1096
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 2: And I know Seth did this. I'm just reminding others.

1097
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: But leave the seeds where you find them. Just take

1098
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: the white stuff. What does it even call it? Zabname?

1099
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: Just like that whatever that hair? Yeah, probably like substances.

1100
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: Probably it's Yeah.

1101
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: That way, you're not spread and milkweed all over the continent.

1102
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: The best wendicater nature could give you good stuff? All right.

1103
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: For gear talk today, I am revisiting the gas can dilemma.

1104
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: Last month I had declared that I haven't used a

1105
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: good gas can in a decade, and all the best

1106
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: gas cans in my life came from my dad. That are,

1107
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: you know, as old as I am. So I asked

1108
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: folks to write in with gas cans that they really liked.

1109
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: I got one hundred and sixty one emails from listeners

1110
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: recommending gas cans, and there were four brands that were recommended,

1111
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 2: far more than the others. Those four brands made up

1112
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: sixty four percent of the emails I got. So here

1113
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 2: they are starting at number four. That is the no

1114
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: spill gas can. I had fourteen folks right in about

1115
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: this one. A five gallon no spill can is thirty

1116
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: nine dollars at Walmart. They claim to have one of

1117
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 2: the fastest cans on the market. They say it drains

1118
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: three gallons a minute, has a thumb controlled fuel spout

1119
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 2: and view stripe. J Hatrup he said, if you're filling

1120
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 2: something that's filled from the top, like a lawnmower or snowblower,

1121
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: there is nothing better than a no spill can. These

1122
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: are dead simple for top filling, but are basically worthless

1123
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: for filling a vehicle. So that is the no spill can.

1124
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: That is fourth place. Fourteen people that'd four of these

1125
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 2: four of these. Number three is the sure Can. Nineteen

1126
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: folks wrote in about this one five gallons Surecan is

1127
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: eighty dollars at ACE. That is the most expensive one

1128
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: from our list. It's got a spout at the bottom,

1129
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: thumb control on the top. They say this design gives

1130
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 2: you the best control when filling large machines. Ethan Lindquist

1131
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: specifically said, I highly recommend sure Can gas cans. I

1132
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: have six, and if never spilled. Best of all, you

1133
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: can fill most things while standing up instead of bending over.

1134
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: So that is the sure Can at number three, number two,

1135
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: number two, we have the Tough Jug. Twenty one folks

1136
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: wrote in recommending this five gallon Tough Jug is forty

1137
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: two dollars from their website. They use an auto stop

1138
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: technology that instantly shuts off flow when your container is full,

1139
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: and has internal venting that helps prevent leaks. John Foley

1140
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: he said, there's a reason these are on back order.

1141
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: They're worth every penny. No leaks or glugs. I'm a

1142
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: fire chief and after replacing my personal ones, every gas

1143
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: can at the firehouse for small engines is now a

1144
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: tough jug, so that is number two. Twenty one folks

1145
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: recommended that number one. This had a dominating lead in

1146
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: the polling from our listeners. Forty eight folks wrote in

1147
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: recommending this one. Everybody seems to love this. It is

1148
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 2: the VP Racing gas can. Five and a half gallon

1149
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 2: VP Racing can is forty eight dollars at lows. They

1150
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: have a wide grip and deluxe hose that won't spill.

1151
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: Now here's the kicker. These are not sold as gas cans.

1152
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: They explicitly say on their website that this is only

1153
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: intended for non fuel products. Instead, they advertise them as

1154
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: quote motorsport containers that can also pour auto fluids, bird seed, deercorn,

1155
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: and water. But clearly most customers are putting gas in

1156
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 2: them and by skirting some EPA regulations. They say the

1157
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 2: best gas can on the market. Justin Bowman, he wrote

1158
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: in to say VP Racing gas cans are by far

1159
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 2: the best on the market. They'll make you feel like

1160
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: you're pouring gas in two thousand and five, which is

1161
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: about the strongest endorsement somebody could give to a gas can.

1162
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: Forty eight folks wrote in recommending that about thirty three

1163
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 2: percent of our audience said, that is an amazing gas

1164
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: can from VP Race.

1165
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: That's great.

1166
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 5: I like how they use terminology to skirt the whole

1167
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 5: gas can thing.

1168
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not for fuel, very clear, it's not for fuel.

1169
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: And somebody actually wrote in saying they live in one

1170
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: of the states where you can't pump your own gas,

1171
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: which I think New Jersey is Oregon used to be.

1172
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: They said they've pulled up to a gas pump with

1173
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: one of these VP Racing and the attendant will not

1174
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 2: fill it, so you might run into that.

1175
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 5: You may only use this bong for tobacco exactly.

1176
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: Yes, very similar thing. VP Racing forty eight dollars can.

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01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 2: Everyone seems to love them. That is probably the can

1178
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to get. And there is your gas can

1179
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: round up from Meat Eater listeners.

1180
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 7: That's great, that's great, fantastic.

1181
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: All right, that brings us to the end of the show.

1182
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: Phil.

1183
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: Let's get some final feedback from the chat.

1184
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 5: Oh, let's do it get these in folks. You have

1185
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 5: a trapping question. I thought, since Seth was here, we

1186
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 5: tackled it's specifically northern Minnesota trappings. Hear Seth Crack at

1187
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 5: Washington asks what terrain slash features or terrain features would

1188
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 5: you look out for during his first Northeast Minnesota bobcat

1189
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 5: slash fisher trapping season, and it's got a two twenty

1190
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 5: cubby set by the way, Uh have any insights, that's a.

1191
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: Good start fisher.

1192
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 3: So fisher trapping which I've done in Pennsylvania and I

1193
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 3: actually caught one.

1194
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: I was trapped.

1195
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 3: I was trapping an area that was heavy with uh

1196
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 3: some porcupines which they like to feed on.

1197
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that about it.

1198
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll they can.

1199
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 3: They can somehow roll them over and get at them

1200
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 3: without getting stuck from what they say. But and I,

1201
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 3: you know, I had some trail cameras in that area

1202
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 3: and was getting uh getting fishers on my trail cameras,

1203
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: so I knew that they were there. So but like

1204
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 3: terrain features, I was just in hard like hardwoods mixed

1205
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 3: with some white pine that that just had like the

1206
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 3: right forge for him. I guess, lots of pork pines,

1207
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 3: lots of squirrels. So basically hardwood timber mixed with some conifers.

1208
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 3: And then bobcats they like rocky stuff. So if there's

1209
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 3: any sort of outcropping or you know, big boulders, they

1210
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 3: like to work those edges. Or Steve and I actually

1211
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 3: just call a bobcat yesterday here in Montana.

1212
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: Good one. Yeah, thirty three and a half pounds.

1213
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 7: Whoa. Yeah, that's a big kitty.

1214
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 3: That was river bottom, the thick brushy stuff that had

1215
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: plenty of pheasants and birds around.

1216
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1217
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 2: Here's some insight from someone who's never trapped a bobcat

1218
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: or tried. So this doesn't mean anything, but I grew

1219
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: up in southeastern South Dakota, a place that is pretty

1220
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: marginal bobcat habitat. But when I would come across bobcats,

1221
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: it was in my places that were also the best

1222
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: spots for turkey hunting, whether it was because the turkeys

1223
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: were there or the bobcats and the turkeys just liked

1224
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: the exact same thing. I imagine northern Minnesota is not

1225
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: crawling with turkeys. So maybe if you come across pheasants

1226
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: like Seth said, or turkeys, which is something I observed

1227
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: in eastern South Dakota, uh, maybe you're prime for a

1228
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: bobcat there.

1229
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: Yep, good luck.

1230
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 6: Cool.

1231
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 5: Stephen Bullet says, please more, no more D and D episodes.

1232
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: Wow.

1233
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 5: Interesting couldn't it Steve.

1234
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: Steve Barnello didn't even try to come up with a

1235
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 2: good burner for that. He just had his own first

1236
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: name in there and everything.

1237
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 5: Hayden Fiddy. When rifle hunting for big game, do you

1238
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 5: value full penetration or energy expansion of your bullet?

1239
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: Santa?

1240
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: What do you think? Well?

1241
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 7: I have a couple answers. I would go for a

1242
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 7: bullet that creates a wider wound channel. And the way

1243
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 7: I would begin thinking about projectile selection is I would

1244
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 7: find whatever you're looking for, figure out what the minimum

1245
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 7: terminal velocity you need to make that bullet expand as

1246
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 7: fully as it can, and then determine which cartridge is

1247
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 7: going to launch that bullet at that speed to get

1248
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 7: to the given range that you'd like. I think you

1249
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 7: want big wounds. Wounds are what kill. Energy doesn't kill.

1250
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 7: Big wounds kill full penetration. I think there aren't very

1251
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 7: many bullets that you don't have to worry about penetration.

1252
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 7: So that's a rambling answer which sort of skirted around

1253
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 7: your question. But I like a bullet that upsets violently,

1254
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 7: and I'm not too worried about shooting through you know,

1255
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 7: four feet of wood. It's just bones and skin and muscle.

1256
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 3: In Africa, when Steve was buffalo hunting, the first the

1257
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 3: first round in the magazine, I guess the first round

1258
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 3: that would come out of the magazine was a bullet

1259
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 3: that would expand well, and then the other ones behind

1260
01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 3: that were penetrating rounds. That way, the first boll went

1261
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 3: in expanded, created that good wound channel, and then the

1262
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 3: follow up shots you just keep shooting into interesting.

1263
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: You don't have it shots anymore, you know.

1264
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: Do you know how deep you were penetrating those critters?

1265
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: I had no clue.

1266
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 7: It's all depends on the angle.

1267
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 5: So that's just that's for buffalo hunting in Africa. But

1268
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 5: you know something else, No, I.

1269
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 7: Would just say. I would just say, I don't think

1270
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 7: that energy is a good measure of a bullet's efficacy. Okay,

1271
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 7: it's it's all about what that bullet mechanically does when

1272
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 7: it hits an animal at a given speed.

1273
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: Good answer, santive? What else you got?

1274
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 5: Phil Cliff is wondering if if Randall and phill are

1275
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 5: going to release any footage from the Big Buck Hunter

1276
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 5: World Championships. Yes, look out for it early next year.

1277
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 7: Q one that sounds like a fun little video.

1278
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 5: It'll be a fun little again. It's going to be

1279
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 5: like a short thing. It's not going to be like

1280
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 5: an episode of Meat Eater or with that production value.

1281
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: He's going to be.

1282
01:06:58,920 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: Exactly I heard.

1283
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 7: I heard a rumor in the office that there's some

1284
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 7: sick footage of.

1285
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 5: Real spoil it. Santa very very good. Mark asks, what's

1286
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 5: the worst injury each of you have endured during hunting

1287
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 5: or fishing?

1288
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: Hmm I I And this was in twenty eighteen. I

1289
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 2: was coming out of a tree stand one night in

1290
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: South Dakota after a bowhunt in late October. My like

1291
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: third to last step was not a step. It was

1292
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: a tree branch that I had trimmed down to be

1293
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: like six inches that I had put a lot of

1294
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 2: faith in over the years, and that night it broke

1295
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: and I fell, and it was a very shortfall, like

1296
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: I landed on my feet, but on the way down

1297
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 2: I hit a metal tree step that I had also

1298
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: put in and it opened up my side and I

1299
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: drove to the er. Yeah, they took some scans, UH,

1300
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 2: stitched me up and I went on my way home.

1301
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 2: And I was most devastated because one like I was

1302
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: now going to worry my wife, who I'm always telling

1303
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be fine. I'm good, you know, like

1304
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 2: it's I'm by myself, It's all gonna be whatever. But

1305
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: then also the rut was coming up and I had

1306
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 2: a rifle tag I was excited about, and I was like,

1307
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss some rud haunts. About two weeks later,

1308
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: I was back to hunting again, so it was all

1309
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: it was all fine, and I still got that scar

1310
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: seth worst injury.

1311
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 3: I don't really have anything good cuts from knives and whatnot,

1312
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 3: hooks in hands.

1313
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 5: Hmm.

1314
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: I I did something.

1315
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 3: I tweaked my knee this year when I was packing

1316
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 3: out my bowl. I've kind of been suffering with that

1317
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: ever since.

1318
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know if i'd call

1319
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 1: that an injury.

1320
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 2: Santa O.

1321
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 7: Outside of the usual cuts, the first thing that comes

1322
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 7: to mind is I was driving a jet boat that

1323
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 7: was it had a poor design, very steep chimes, and

1324
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 7: occasionally when you're power sliding it, it would grab and Uh,

1325
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 7: I was coming around this big log We're at up

1326
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 7: in Alaska, going full tilt, you know, and uh it

1327
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 7: grabbed and I was thrown forward in the boat and

1328
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,560
Speaker 7: gave myself a concussion. We're pretty sure I didn't go

1329
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 7: to a hospital, but I was pretty sick and nauseous

1330
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 7: for the next day or so and hit my head

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01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 7: on the floor of the boat. YEP, I didn't like

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01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 7: that boat. We eventually, uh, we eventually put some floats

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01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 7: on the back to try to alleviate its handling characteristics

1334
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 7: because again, the geometry of it was all off. But

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01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 7: I never really trusted that boat.

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Speaker 2: Santa made it here today.

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01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 7: Though, Yes, stung by bees too. I swell up quite

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 7: a bit.

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 5: Three crank asks or says first, I've gotten two roadkilled

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01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 5: deer this year. If you guys get roadkilled, do you

1341
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 5: treat it differently when processing? Santa? Do you snag roadkill

1342
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 5: in the sled?

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01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 7: The only roadkill I've ever taken was a bus that

1344
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 7: my dad hit driving home from work when I was

1345
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 7: a senior in high school. I had a broken leg

1346
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 7: at the time, so my buddy picked me up and

1347
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 7: we went and the cop shot the deer in the

1348
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 7: head because it wasn't dead yet, so then we euroed

1349
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 7: that skull. But we took the deer to a processor

1350
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 7: because I wasn't hunting that year. There's a man named Patterson.

1351
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 7: He had a tattoo on his arm of a castle

1352
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 7: with a dragon flying over sick and then he skinned

1353
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 7: it up and he said it was too bruised to eat,

1354
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 7: so he wouldn't accept it. So that's my roadkill story.

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01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 2: I hit a dell last year driving home from a

1356
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: hunt in South Dakota, and that thing had too much

1357
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 2: trauma as well to take most of the meat, so

1358
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: I took I had the backstraps that took the tender

1359
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: loins and then like a roast on the backhand. But

1360
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,839
Speaker 2: otherwise it was just like, you know, pretty well ruined

1361
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: that you wouldn't.

1362
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: Want to be eating that.

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01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: A lot of trauma, a lot of blood seth and

1364
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 2: he rode kill in your day.

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 3: M I don't think I've picked up a road killed deer.

1366
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 3: I've picked up some roadkill fur bears and skin them.

1367
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 2: That any different than one that was in your tramp?

1368
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 3: No, just I mean, you know, try to avoid picking

1369
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 3: something up that's sure full of trauma. But no, I

1370
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 3: don't dream different.

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01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: Phil one more.

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Speaker 7: Okay, first, Phil, I've seen a few suggestions in the

1373
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 7: chat that I've had. I've been over served today and

1374
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 7: I'd just like to address that I haven't had anything

1375
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 7: to drink yet.

1376
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: He yet?

1377
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm just full of the Christmas spirit.

1378
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's intoxicating. Santa. What was the mascot at

1379
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 5: your high school?

1380
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 7: The Warriors?

1381
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 2: Oh?

1382
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 5: That's I thought you'd be a little bit more, you know. Theme.

1383
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 2: Was it portrayed as like a Native American or well?

1384
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 7: Yes, but they changed it. They changed it in recent

1385
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 7: years to fit more of a spartan theme, with a

1386
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 7: with a gladiator type helmet with a nose shield and

1387
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 7: a sore, and people were very upset about it.

1388
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 2: Sure, yes, yes, that's a good one.

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01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 7: Marry much Warriors.

1390
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 5: Okay, last one this is from mister Hunterman sixty nine.

1391
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 5: Santa is Brody on the Naughty List because he wins

1392
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 5: more in trivia than Randall? Or is Spencer on the

1393
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 5: Naughty List for asking all those fishing questions for number ten?

1394
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 2: Good question.

1395
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 7: It's all about the questions for me. It's like playing golf.

1396
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 7: You're really playing against yourself, trying to pick up a

1397
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 7: stroke here and there on your opponent. But if the

1398
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 7: course is shitty, there's not much you can do.

1399
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: That's right, Santa, thank you for joining us.

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01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 7: It's so much fun to be on radio live.

1401
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: Mary Warman here too.

1402
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 7: I mean, yes, yes, itches tremendously. Yeah, No, I need

1403
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 7: to get this off.

1404
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: You're about to be real busy here.

1405
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 7: Oh yes, yes, it's coming up quickly, and there's all

1406
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 7: sorts of boys and girls all over the world who

1407
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 7: know their gifts. So I better better sign off and

1408
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 7: get back to the workshop. The elves are busy.

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01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: Speaking of the holidays. We have some pre recorded episodes

1410
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: for radio coming up. Send us your questions to radio

1411
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: at the meadeater dot com so we can interject those

1412
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: where the live chat normally participates a Radio at the

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01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: meadeater dot com send your questions our way very soon.

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01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 2: One last thing seth about that apple butter. I was

1415
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: driving by a ranchers place. I had picked some apples

1416
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: that day while I was hunting on the mountain, and

1417
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 2: then they had some beautiful apple trees in their driveway.

1418
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 2: I swung in and asked for permission to pick their apples,

1419
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 2: and they let me. So that's the first time I've

1420
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 2: ever gotten apple hunting permission. And now I turned into

1421
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: that apple's right, all right? See you back here next week,

1422
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: same time and place. By now