WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Defending Washington's Weapons 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:07.560 This is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:17.160 Com and the official Dallas Cowboys swoy No. Your hosts 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:22.920 Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought It, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips. 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:28.000 Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. We have another 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:32.840 exciting episode of Talking Cowboys for you guys today. Of course, Mickey, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.199 Rob Brian will be breaking it all down as the 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.000 Cowboys get ready to take on the Washington Redskins this 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:44.960 Sunday for their second divisional opponent. So it's very exciting. Brian, 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.160 how you doing in that? Uh that nice vest you're sporting? Yeah? 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.680 Is that from the Cowboys Pro Shot? Absolutely? Cowboys Pro 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.839 Shot makes you go online to get one all day, 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.160 all day, getting paid to advertise or no, I'd just 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.800 like to like the model, or no I'm a bad model. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.240 You're gonna need it tomorrow. Yeah, I heard it gonna 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.120 be little bit. It was a little chiliest morning walking them. Sorry, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.920 I didn't mean like going down weather man, let's weather 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.119 it up? Yeah, going downhill tomorrow? Yes, good time. How 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.000 do you not know that? You of all people? Now 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.880 I heard did you check the weather again for Washington. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.120 I did, what does it look like? One hundred percent 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.399 chance of rain? Like Taylor told you that yesterday, didn't 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:22.120 you know, hasn't changed that, but one hundred percent chance. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.399 So what are you gonna be wearing. I'm gonna have 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.720 to bring some trench coat that repels water. What are 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.880 you gonna wear? I don't know yet. A pregame show. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.840 You gotta stand out. I don't have down there. You know, 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.160 I choose to go down? Do you choose that? We'll 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.560 figure it out, Doctor Jerry Madelin about that, because I'm 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.839 sure whatever you wear in the rain is not It'll 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.560 be like the hat. Looking, what was that game you 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.639 brought the bad umbrella? Didn't you have a bad umbrella? 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:53.000 Was a Buffalo Miami? Probably Buffalo was just bad. Miami bad? 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.520 But yeah, Miami was bad. Miami. Miami was like a hurricane. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:58.000 R You and I were on the field and you 0:01:58.080 --> 0:01:59.760 looked over that, You looked over the mabey, looked over 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.680 the sta hands and goes, we need to get out 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:03.920 of here. Yeah, and then and then it let it, 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.760 let it let go. For sure. Hey it's Washington, DC. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.680 You wear trench coat. Trench coat, I'll wear my trench coat. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:13.600 We could be matching and take a picture that idea. Yeah, 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.760 well that's exciting for two new kickers for each team. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:18.760 You have to go into that kind of weather and 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.399 it's never easy to kick outside. But Mike Nugent will 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:24.080 have the additional challenge of kicking in the rain. So 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.160 with a wet ball, yes, wet ball. How do you 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.840 do you guys throw throw a wet football? Well do 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.040 you snap a wet thigh? You know? I didn't like 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.280 it and not war Oh yeah, we used to. We 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.520 used to take um, We used to take those like 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.119 five gallon buckets, those plastic buckets. If you've ever worked 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.799 in the restaurant industry, you know they like they hold yeah, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.240 like the paint bucket, Yeah, paint bucket thing. But restaurants 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.960 they used to put slaw or taste out whatever these 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:53.280 big buckets and we used to stand there and they 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.880 dip the ball in the water and then hand it 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.560 to you and you'd snap it. And that's but you 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.600 know in the NFL nowadays, because the ball, you know, 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.239 the various they could keep the kicking ball dry because 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.160 they don't play those those aren't only used for uh, 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.360 you know, for for that specific time of the game, 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.920 so the other balls get rotated through. But yeah, I 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.800 was surprised it was a good question. I thought that 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.840 they asked, you know, yeah, because we've seen a little 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.240 bit if you remember the Giants game earlier. Shit, it 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.920 was played at at and T, and I thought that 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:28.040 Dak had some problems with sweaty with some sweat hand. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.679 If that's it's a bad way of saying m Yeah, 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.960 but he was really he was overlea inspiring and and 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.240 you know, the ball was shaking on him a little bit. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.360 It was moving on him, you know, And I was 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.720 wondering if it was he was having problems with his 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.040 hand being wet. But Dak's got big hands and so 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.320 he you know, he could probably handle it. But you know, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.280 Garrett told the story this morning about aikman, you know, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.840 Aikman with the big hands. Maybe a psychological thing with 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.600 him not handling the weather very well. Yeah, Jason kind 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.560 of treated that question like he did the altitude Denver week. Yeah, 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.960 like you know what, it's a mindset thing. Don't don't worry. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.000 Did he say be your best regardless of circumstances, he yeaid, 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.840 he said, control what you can control. In so many words. Yes, 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:12.520 he did for practice, big baby, and he could snap 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.400 the ball and it'll be soggy when it gets to 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:19.320 the quarterback. Oh but yeah, who sweat a lot. Yeah, 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.800 I had to have him wear a towel. Yeah, might 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.520 be the only center that had to wear a towel. 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.080 Troy had to go up and wipe his hands off, 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.279 pipe his hands off, and then Derek would take the 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.880 towel and wipe between his legs. Okay, because he sweats 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.760 so much. Thank you. That's in depth reporting. You getting on. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.840 Don't get that anywhere else. You don't your pants off. 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.400 There's some there's some there's some centers that do change 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:47.280 pants at halftime. Yeah, because quarterbacks it is. But in 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.120 this game, yeah, if it turns into just something to 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.640 keep an eye on, both both teams are going to 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.880 have to deal with it. The grass field looks it's 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.040 like it's in really good shape. So, like you say, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.760 late in the year, we've gone to that place and 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.120 it's been a mess. So now if it's one hundred 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.920 percent chance to reign, at least the grass field will 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.440 be okay that regard, But yeah, it's gonna be tough 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.680 for both teams. To have to deal with that. The 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.200 one team that running football travels wherever you go. The 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.880 running if you can run the football, that travels. So 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.680 we'll see. And you know, the officials can change out 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.720 the balls quickly, but if you go no huddle, you 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.080 got no shot to do that, no shot. Yeah. So 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.120 because they can bring in the ball boy on the sideline, 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.720 can keep them in a pouch and then you can 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.880 change them out. It used to be where you had 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.840 to worry about the other team with their ballboys. But yeah, 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.640 you know, Adam pacifica for the Cowboys actually is part 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.680 of of the you know here hees he does contracts, 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.120 but during the game day he works as a ball 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.080 boy on the road to help, you know, facilitate it. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.599 So you got Diana Dallas Cowboys analyst and then bank 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.880 robbers stopper. Whatever you have to do, do what you 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.479 have to do. Jeff Heath knows that very well. Yeah, 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.960 mild mannered scout by day. Yeah, stop bank robbers during 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.359 the day. Amazing. Yes, So it was a fairly comforting 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.680 feeling for the Dallas Cowboys as they got their practice 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.000 support from yesterday. And the Dallas Cowboys only had six 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:15.440 members of their team on it of course, four Dnps, Cheeto, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.440 Dan Bailey, Tyron Smith, and then a surprising new one 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.600 Kyle Wilbur his knee. Did you see his knee, guys 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.880 yesterday in the locker room, No, I did not see that. 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:28.400 He was walking pretty slow going through gingerly. Yeah, very gingerly. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.320 And so Garrett of course said Tyron will be back 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:33.960 at practice today with that veteran Wednesday, but Kyle Wilbur 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:39.159 would be limited, limited, limited, And surprisingly, even though he 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.320 said Sean Lee was going to be limited yesterday, he 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:45.080 was actually full right. Good sign for him. They were 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.080 going to start him out limited, see what he could do. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.480 Wound up having a full practice. Make of course Sean 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.360 Lee once he got out there with a helmet on 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.120 and dad, he's not gonna think he was going to 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.920 walk off. No, this is it's now. I know we've 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.080 got now ten straight games. Yeah, but this is this 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.560 game is and to me, you know, all games there 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.080 must win, but this is a game that Sean Lee 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.320 he's you know, he's You've got to get something going here, 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.040 you know. They they've got to find a way. They 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.080 gave away two games, felt like they got a game 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.600 back last week against forty nine ers. I gotta put 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.560 some things together, take advantage of some situations, you know, 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.520 find a way to win this game. Kansas City has 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.160 lost a couple of games, Atlanta has had their share 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.800 of troubles. Maybe get something going roll wise. You know. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.080 He actually spoke exactly to that after the game the 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:32.720 other day. Yeah, defense specifically that most of the guys 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.480 are getting healthy. He's back, They've got some of these 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.400 dbs back. Hitchens is bad, Hitchens is back, still waiting 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:44.640 on cheeto, David Irving's back. I never really had cheeto, No, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:49.000 they never. So that's fair. I mean there is there 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:53.960 is healthy and you know, have everybody on board as 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.560 they've had all season. Yeah, so now let's see it. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.600 Yeah yeah. Well on the other hand, yeah this, Yeah, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.880 Mickey just destroyed the Washington Redskins practice report because it 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:09.200 was a lot more guys. We almost needed page two. Yep, okay, 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.240 walk us through. So Harvey there, Mickey, yes, thank you. 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:18.080 It wouldn't buy everybody. Yeah, old people again, people experienced people. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.520 Every time. You're gonna have to learn that, I would 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:23.920 you will learn in it about forty years by this. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.320 It's a long time to go Okay, Yeah, she's got 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:31.360 a long time to learn. So Taylor hosting the show 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:35.400 at sixty. Yeah, really she might. She'll get it at 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:39.120 some point, yeah, will I counted up thirteen guys that 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.920 were limited or did not practice, and it was an 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.640 estimation for the Redskins because they had so many people 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.880 hurt on a short week playing Monday, they decided not 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.640 to practice on Wednesday, but so they gave an estimation 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.240 as if we had practice, this is how these guys 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.679 would have been listed. So thirteen guys limited or did 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.959 not practice. Of the thirteen, six were DMPEDE. So we'll 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:09.920 see what happens today. The most significant has been the 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.800 offensive line. Yes, yes, four fifths of their offensive line 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:20.760 was Dnpede. That included Trent Williams, who's contemplating knee surgery, 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.439 so he's trying to play through it. He needs it, 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.079 and he's not sure if he's hurting the team by 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.760 trying to play through it. Their other tackle, Moses Morgan, 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:35.040 has two sprained ankles. I think they listed him as limited. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:44.480 Brian Shareff he dnpede second degree sprain of his mcluh center. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:49.240 Spencer Long Dnpede. It says knee knee, so that must 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.280 mean he has two knees. Uh, And then they had 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:58.280 backups that were unable to practice, uh tie and SICKI 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:00.920 he's from Arling and by the way, he did not 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.480 know that. As a matter of fact, he came through. 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.000 I was trying to find out how to pronounce the 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:11.320 last name because very difficultly spelled. He's out three to 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:16.360 six weeks. He had surgery to repair a torn core bustle. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:21.040 So he's their immediate backup tackle. Um. But yeah, he's 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.959 from from from Arlington and he played in Arena Football 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.240 League before he got a shot at the NFL, so 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.800 kind of a long ways for him. So and they 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:37.880 had another backup guard, Tyler Catalina, uh limited with a concussion. Yeah, 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:42.240 so they bang up on that office. So yesterday I 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.000 think we talked about it when Jay Gruden was asked about, 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.760 you know, his offensive line, who's available, and he goes, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.720 that's a great question because he didn't know. And that's 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.040 one of the reasons why he didn't know. And we 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:58.080 spoke yesterday about Jonathan Allen, their first round draft choice. 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.400 He's on ir with a fractured bone in his foot. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.320 And I've I missed this one Phil Taylor, who was 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.760 going to be their nose tackles on IR and Taylor 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:13.720 mentioned their kicker, Dustin Hopkins. He's on injured reserve, so 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.800 they've got some problems now. They think Josh Norman's going 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.720 to be back. He's been out a couple of weeks 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:24.240 with fractured ribs, which is not easy. Uh. And then 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:29.760 they had a safety deschaser, Everett Hamstring limited and I 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:37.720 believe the other safety actually Brilon was full for a change, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:41.400 but he's been but he's been. He suited up Monday nine. 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:48.319 So they're banged up all over this roster. Well, can 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.640 you cut your breath after saying all those times I'm 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.559 worn out? It should be worn out because they will 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.920 be playing with a backup kicker. You're right. I think 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.920 they signed Justin Rose from Texas. Made all his extra 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.800 points from Highland Park. He is from Highland Park and 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:08.280 had the swoopiest frat hair that I've ever seen. Made 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:10.640 all his extra points and kicked a twenty seven yard 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.200 field goal, so he's he's at least gone out there 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:17.679 and showing twenty seven yards. Yeah, Southern swoop. Oh yeah. 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:20.240 His was the infamous headshot that went around for a 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.559 little bit for Texas. Is that the Cutler cut? Yeah, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.000 exactly similar. And you know what I'm talking about, right, Yeah, 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.719 you would. I was like in college thirty years very 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.280 prominent with them. Yeah, it was very prominent throughout the SEC. 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.640 Did you have one? I didn't? Oh, okay, yeah yeah 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.400 so but twenty seven yards okay, Well he made it. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.079 You know, anything you get out of your backup kicker, 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.960 it's gravy. Yeah, he got to going to ran on 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.400 this guy. Thanks. You know, I didn't like the picture, no, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.760 but you know I did find this out about Nugent. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.320 I was looking up just different things about him and 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.760 kind of his interesting background. Obviously. You know when he 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.120 won the national championship four Ohio State back in two 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:04.760 thousand two, Jim Tressell, yep, good old Jim Tressell. How 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.600 old was Zeke? He was seven years old, and Zeke 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.760 would eventually win a national championship for Ohio State as well. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:16.480 They were both MVPs for their national championship team. Of course, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.040 as he gell it naturally the running back and the 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.000 great one that he was for Ohio State. But yes, 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.120 Nugent was the first place kicker for Ohio State to 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.160 ever get that kind of award, and he was a 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.720 second round draft pick too. Right, Well, he also won 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.199 the Luke Rosa, which Dan Bailey won. Yeah, and a 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.680 quayle a kicker talk going on today. Well, I'm just 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:39.760 saying you, guys, this is going to be a big 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.520 thing this weekend, especially when you're talking about, you know, 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.040 kind of the weather and everything. Sure, I think it's 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.360 going to come down to that. And if it doesn't 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:47.599 come down to that, it's going to come down to 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:51.200 catch your Friday prediction kicker. Now I actually have a 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.200 better Friday predict Yeah, Okay, I just want to make 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.520 sure you gotta think you're maybe setting this thing up. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:14:00.840 Does it impact Chris Jones at all with a new kicker? Actually, 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.720 NU said it, go ahead, Rob Well. I talked to 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.840 Chris a couple of days. He said, the way the 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.080 way Dan likes the ball to be held as part 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.560 of the kicking operation, it's the same way that Mike 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:17.559 prefers it. So there's no real difference there. Nugent spoke 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.480 to just how systematic their operation is. Those two guys, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.800 LP and Chris Jones have done this for years together. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.960 So he's already got a comfort with it. He said, basically, 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:28.640 I've just got to go out and do my job now, 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.280 so just make the kicks and and so we'll see 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.120 day he brings up a great point. I mean the weather. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:38.640 He was asked about it too, and he said, it's 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.720 you know, it's not something that really affects me so 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.760 much as the as the operation once you got to 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.280 get the ball down for me to kick. But sure 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:49.120 it could certainly be a factor. Yeah. Somebody Askedley actually 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.400 asked him about all these Ohio state players that are 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:57.080 on the Cowboys team, and he was like, yeah, they 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.360 probably were there after me. We weren't there together. Oh, 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.160 they didn't realize that he was a vested veteran type guy. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.360 He'd been in the league twelve years. This is his 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.640 thirteenth year. Yeah, just looking for an angle, you know. Yeah, 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.320 that's that's a stretch. I'm writing that story. Go ahead, 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:16.680 gonna put it on five points, blue man. The Daggers 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.000 don't end here. The Daggers are now Kyle Wilbur Are 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.640 you guys at all concerned about him having that banged 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.680 up knee this week? He doesn't look very good. You're 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.480 ready for Sunday. I don't I don't know, I have 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.880 special teams player. Yeah he is, and that's you know, 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.720 he's the guy that made the tackle. We were kind 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.440 of broke down in the film room the other day. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.720 He's the one that made the tackle that Jeff Heath 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.600 on the kickoff. So yeah, I think though this is 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.240 where they're a little banged up two with Justin Durant 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:47.200 as well. And so now you get, now, okay, how 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.680 much and how fast can you get Justin march Lillard 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.920 ready to play? That's where you know he could very 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.640 well factor into what you're having. You you know, you 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.880 you brought up the Kyle wilbur thing, But there's a 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.640 guy that's a rotational backup guy when they need, you know, 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.080 when they sometimes when Damien Wilson loses his mind and 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.520 doesn't play well or does something crazy, you know, they say, Okay, 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.000 Kyle get in there, and kind of you know, they 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.120 correct to, you know, correct Wilson. But yeah, I mean 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.680 I think now it's going to be about okay, can 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.640 you use some uh, you know, march Lillard in this 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.200 football game. Have you noticed that he loses his mind 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.320 less when Sean Lee's on the field. Yeah, doesn't everyone. Yeah, 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.360 Damien Wilson. Yeah, but Damian Wilson will make some crazy 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.320 plays where you're like, you're like, well, that's a good play, 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.040 and then you're going, whoa, what is he thinking? Though? 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.600 Where'd you go there? Where'd you go there? So yeah, hopefully, 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.800 hopefully things Hopefully Kyle Wilver can get back. But you 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.920 guys are making me kind of nervous about that. He's 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:43.720 not going to play. He didn't look good. I mean, 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.600 I'm just being honest, just the way he was moving, 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.360 it's very swollen, and I mean, you know, obviously not practicing. 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.280 It will be curious to see what the practice report 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.160 comes back from for today. Yeah. If he doesn't practice today, 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.280 I don't think he plays. That's just me. Yeah, So 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:01.600 I don't know. It was just an interesting one in 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.760 Cheeto Limited yesterday or DMP yesterday out again. Yeah, he 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:07.720 was to make it. Yeah, he's not gonna make it 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.840 this week. When when could we even expect to see 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.680 him again? Maybe next week, maybe the week after the Chiefs. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:20.040 I would say, yeah, and see, I mean, I don't, 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.560 I don't, I don't know. I don't have a timetable. 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.680 I'm just trying to you know that when they put 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.760 him back out there, it's it wasn't full on pull. 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.080 It just they tweaked. Yeah, it tightened up. Yeah, it 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.240 tightens up. So it's like it gets fatigued. I guess 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.760 is the right word. And you know it is disappointing 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.960 because I said it yesterday. They're playing so many young 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.840 guys and they're okay with that, you know, and heck, 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.600 you got a pass rush. You got a little pass 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.720 rush now, so all of a sudden, you know the secondary. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.720 You want to play secondary. You know, your mistakes aren't 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.840 magnified if you get some pass rush there. So you 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.479 know the other thing, he'd be a good matchup in 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.720 this game if you're healthy. Jordan Reid. They focus on 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.800 their days a lot, Davis Jordan read. You know, it's 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.520 interesting they're Chris Thompson and those two tight ends are 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.040 among their top receivers. They kind of spread it around. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.400 So a big physical corner like Cheeto who can play 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.800 safety much like Byron cover tight ends. That would have 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.280 been a nice asset. That would have been Yeah, absolutely yeah, 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.760 and they were training him for that too. Yeah. I thought, well, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.879 now you put Byron down there in the slot, and 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.960 Xavier Woods comes in. Yeah, lay a lot of dime 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.159 because of their tight ends that can get down the field. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:32.800 Gotta be ready for the ball going down the field 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.280 in the scheme. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, because that's what they do. Ye. 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