1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Elon Musk and vivekrom Aswami, the tech overlords who appear 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: to be running Trump's second term agenda, rely on highly 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: skilled immigrants to power their enterprises. Those immigrants come to 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: this country to work with an H one B visa, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: which provides terms that are extremely favorable to the employers 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: and also an amazing opportunity for the folks coming to 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: work here. Folks basically have to stay at their job 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: in order to stay in the country. If they leave 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: their position, they have two months to find a new 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: job or risk getting deported. So you can see why 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: someone like Elon Musk. 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: Likes them so much. 13 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: For example, this is not abstract. When Musk bought Twitter 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: and a huge percentage of the staff ahead of the exits, 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Vice News report on how Twitter employees on visas can't 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: just quit. On the other side of the debate over 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: the H one B visa is the one that folks 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: like Steven Miller and Stephen Bannon have been pushing for 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: years that we should restrict, limit, perhaps and all immigration 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: in the US, legal and illegal, right stuff of the 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: border around aside them, but also H. 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: One B visas. 23 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean, just listen to the two of them. Bannen's 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: old radio show back in March of twenty sixteen, is 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: before Trump was even the Republican nominee. 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: Take a list, and they see these oligarchs down there 27 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: with fifty four private jets, and they're not down there 28 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: for their health. They're called together by Carl Rove and 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 2: it's a stop Trump movement. It's a stop Trump movement 30 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: because they want unlimited HB one visas. Isn't the beating 31 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: heart of this problem right now? The real beating heart 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: of it of what we've got to get sorted here 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is, and 34 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: it's horrific, and don't only have a problem. We've looked 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: the other way on this legal immigration that's kind of 36 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: overwhelmed the country. 37 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: The history of America is that an immigration on period 38 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: is followed by an immigration off period. 39 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: So see be very clear there, right, H one B 40 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: visas legal immigration and immigration off period. Like they have 41 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: a pretty clear vision. 42 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: Miller's going to be the one. 43 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Writing that border bill. 44 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: So those two. 45 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: Factions of the Republican Party with pretty profoundly different views 46 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: are at each other's throats about what to do with 47 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: their newfound power. Should they use the legal immigration system 48 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: to continue supplying Silicon Valley and other industries with highly 49 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: skilled workers, or should they apply some new racist immigrant 50 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: exclusion act like the Chinese Exclusion Act to deport all 51 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: those workers and let their let Americans take their jobs 52 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: defense in the former argument that is continuing H one 53 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: B Visas. Elon Musk spent his Christmas week absolutely melting 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: down on the social media platform he owns. He has 55 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: since deleted many of those posts, including one that replied 56 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: approvingly to a post calling American burned workers in general 57 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: a slur the RT word for being too stupid to 58 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: be able to do the jobs that workers on H 59 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: one B visas were doing. One emblematic post is still 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: up where must tells opponents of H one B visas 61 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: to f themselves before pledging to go to war on 62 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. 63 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: Although he seems to have underestimated how much the MAGA 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: diehards hate immigration is online. 65 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: Base of right wing. 66 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: Troles quickly turned on hymns for and dimedal likes have 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Ben And as well as Laura Luhmer, the fringe for 68 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: a right activists who spent much of the fall cozying 69 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: up to Trump before his campaign stepped in and pushed 70 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: her aside. 71 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: It's not a civil war because they're not tough enough. 72 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 5: I don't think that it's acceptable for George Soros, Elon 73 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 5: Musk or Peter Chile. 74 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what side of. 75 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 5: The political aisle a billionaire is on. I don't think 76 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 5: that it's acceptable for billionaires to have this much power, 77 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: in this much access. 78 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: On the policy dispute here, and there is a real one. 79 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: Trump actually took Himuth's side on it, coming out in 80 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: support of H one B visas in Commonson, New York 81 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Post quote, I have many H one B visas on 82 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: my properties. I've been a believer in H one B. 83 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: I've used it many times. It's a great program. Now 84 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: I have to say, I think Trump might be confused here. 85 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't think his properties are hiring a ton of, 86 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: say like software engineers, off H one B as. In 87 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: New York Times reports, Trump has been a frequent and 88 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: long time user of the similarly named but starkly different 89 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: two visa program, which is for unskilled workers like gardeners 90 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: and housekeepers. Of course, you can drive yourself crazy. Do 91 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: try to track transposition on anything at an aging movement. 92 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, of course, he called for guess what 93 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: the H one b to be banned. 94 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 4: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. 95 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval in 96 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: these people. You not got a free shot. And all 97 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: these networks lying about the people, the people have had 98 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: a belly full of it. I know you don't like 99 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: hearing that. I know you tried to do everything in 100 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: the world to stop there, but you're not going to 101 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: stop it. It's going to happen. 102 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 4: And where do people like that go to share the 103 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 4: big line? 104 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: Mega media? 105 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 106 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: these people had a conscience. 107 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 108 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country. 109 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: This country will be saved. Worry. Here's your host, Stephen k. 110 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: Bah. 111 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, thirty one December and the year of our Lord, 112 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. That's the last time, I guess we'll 113 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: say that or the show, this morning show, it's the 114 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: last show of the year. We've got a lot planned 115 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: to get through, but we've got to get through this 116 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: first thing about immigration. I want to bring in Sean 117 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: Spice or Sean you were comms director for the White 118 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: House and the spokesman for the president, and also in 119 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: the campaign he came into Bails Out and helped Jason 120 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: for the sprint to the end. But I first met you, 121 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: Sean when you were comms director with rights over the RNC. 122 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: In fact, spring of sixteen, we had a lot of 123 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: interaction together, commander, and you remember Breitbart Radio, my morning show, 124 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 2: we're talking about the exact same topic. In fact, I 125 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: think that Carl Rove, I'm not saying right you and 126 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: Wright's instigated it, but I think that's was somehow an 127 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: rn C adjacent meeting where they all went down there 128 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: on that was the last gas for the stop Trump movement. 129 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: But what are we talking about. We're talking about H 130 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: one B visas. You remember that day, sir. 131 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: Dude. 132 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 6: I remember very vividly getting a call saying, who is 133 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 6: this Steve Banning guy? 134 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: And how are we going to solve this? And that's well, 135 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 4: let's go meet with him because I don't think it's 136 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: going away. 137 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 6: And you still happened ten years later, it's been amazing 138 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 6: and thank you for the guy works. 139 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: It's been a one heck of a wide. 140 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: Well, Sean. So you've been there since the beginning. Uh, 141 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: And obviously you had a job with right, So you 142 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: guys were kind of the establishment guys, but you saw 143 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: the issues that were popping up, and I know that 144 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: you went out of your way behind the scenes of 145 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: the donors say hey, look, you guys gonna understand there's 146 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: a there's a there's something happening in the country. We're here, 147 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: what eight years later, and we're having a debate about 148 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: this this very topic. Now you have your own show, 149 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: you've got your own uh Twitter feed, which is huge, 150 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: You've got a big following. You did something the other day, 151 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: and walking through what you did in the heat of 152 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: this and then as he's part of it, which is 153 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: about forty eight hours ago, you decided to do something. 154 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: What was it? 155 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, first, let me just address what you said. 156 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 6: I think the one thing that you and a lot 157 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 6: of the folks showed us is that for so long 158 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 6: we had heard this is how it works. Right, You 159 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 6: can't do anything different. 160 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: This is the system. 161 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 6: This is how And I think what Donald Trump showed 162 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 6: us more than. 163 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: You can fight back. You can be a fighter and win. 164 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 6: And that's what I think broke the mold for so 165 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 6: many of us that said it's not just normal. So 166 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 6: what I did the other day is I heard this 167 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 6: discussion on about H one B visus and I put 168 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 6: it out there. I literally just tweeted, let's settle this 169 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 6: H one B visus pro I'm with Elon Khan, Bannon 170 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 6: is right and sixty seven percent, and it trended this way. 171 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 6: I made it intentionally forty eight hours because I didn't 172 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 6: want it to be a flash in the pan. 173 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: I wanted people to be able to see it, digested, 174 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: share it. 175 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 6: Look at that thing over there, ninety two thousand, six 176 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 6: hundred and seventy four votes. 177 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: Is this scientific? 178 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: No? 179 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: But is this where the people are? 180 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 7: Yes? 181 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 6: And what I've found most interesting, Steve, wasn't just the vote, 182 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 6: but I read through a lot of the comments, and 183 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 6: what I found interesting about this issue more than anything, 184 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 6: is that some of the commentary that you have shared 185 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 6: goes back to my original comment. For so long, we've 186 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 6: been told we need each one be visus because Americans 187 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 6: can't fill this, and we've been just given a blanket excuse. 188 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: This is how things are done. Fuck it up right. 189 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 6: What I read through a lot of the comments and 190 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 6: through a lot of the commentary that you're putting out, 191 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 6: there is no there is a different way that you 192 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 6: don't have. 193 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: To just accept the status quo. 194 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 6: These guys created this problem and now they want everyone 195 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 6: to bail them out. Right, so we can train Americans, 196 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 6: we can reprioritize putting Americans in these problems, that we 197 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 6: shouldn't just accept the status quo because they say so. 198 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: Sean, given the new coalition we've putten together, and obviously 199 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: is the early days of that. You know, we did 200 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: it in sixteen a little bit, but much more in 201 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: twenty four we have African American males now coming to 202 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: the forefront, either not voting for Democrats and or sometimes 203 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: voting for President Trump. And you have Hispanics in record numbers. 204 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: Think over fidgious out of the Hispanic vote the last 205 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: time on MSMEBC when they say, hey, we kind of 206 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: like what Bannon is saying, but we know they are racists. 207 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, these guys are all racists, 208 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: and they refuse to talk about the Hispanic and African 209 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: American I mean Isn't that what this is really about. 210 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: It's about American citizens, regardless of your race or ethnicity. 211 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: You deserve a shot at these jobs, and you're not 212 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: dumber or lasier than people as guys are saying that, 213 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: we actually have plenty of people that could step in 214 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 2: and fill those because they're not bringing over the Einstein's 215 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: that's obvious, right. Do you think that gets us pass 216 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: this racism charge. 217 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 6: No, because they can't admit that they're wrong. That's the problem. 218 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 6: And again this goes back to the first thing I 219 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 6: said about the status quo. We force people into a 220 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 6: four year college education because we tell them that's the 221 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 6: smart thing to do. 222 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: So they get a degree in gender studies, make fifteen grand. 223 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 6: A year, and never pay back their loan and hope 224 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 6: that the government forgives it instead of saying, hey, there 225 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 6: are these trade schools where you can learn a skill. 226 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 6: You can learn to be an engineer, you can learn 227 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 6: to work on computers. The system is screwed up, and 228 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 6: the problem is is that our leaders tell us there's 229 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 6: only one way to do things. And what I think, 230 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 6: more than anything we've learned over the last eight years, 231 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 6: if not ten, is that there are better ways, more 232 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 6: common sense solutions, and we don't have to suck it 233 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 6: up if we're willing to fight back, if we're willing 234 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 6: to say this isn't the only way, that there are 235 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 6: other avenues to pursue this, that if you're not going 236 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 6: to change, we'll get rid of you. 237 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 4: Then you know. 238 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 6: I think that to me is the message over and 239 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 6: over again. We've learned that we can win. We don't 240 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 6: have to accept the status quo. I mean, I think 241 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 6: about all these fights, these people saying Pete Exeth isn't qualified. 242 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? 243 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 6: The guy's got what three bronze stars degrees from Princeton 244 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 6: and Harvard, served in Gitmo, Afghanistan, Iraq, and somehow because 245 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 6: he didn't wear a star on his shoulders, he's not qualified. 246 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 6: He didn't work in the defense industrial complex, he's not qualified. 247 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 6: Tell me how Dennis McDonough, Obama's VA secretary, who's never 248 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 6: served in the military, never worked for a veteran. 249 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: Service organization, is qualified. 250 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 6: We've got to remember that we've been shown a roadmap 251 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 6: on how to fight and win, and if we'll follow it, 252 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 6: we will be more and more successful. The problem, I 253 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 6: think the best thing that ever happened to Donald Trump. 254 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 6: I hate to say this is not taking office in 255 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 6: twenty twenty because for forty years we've been able to 256 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 6: get the people. 257 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: The process and the policy. He's right to think about them. 258 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 6: And when he comes back in on January first, the 259 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 6: American people better have their head on a swivel because 260 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 6: it's going to go around like this over and over 261 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 6: and over again, because he is going to crush the establishment. 262 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: At sixty seven thirty three and it held pretty tight, 263 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: and ninety two thousand we tracked these that's a massive 264 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: amount of people. Remember, you're restricted, you only vote want 265 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: So it's not like somebody sat there or in the 266 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: intensity that comments as far as actionable because as a 267 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: director and information guy, you're always talking to me about 268 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: actionable information. What is the actual information that this represents? 269 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: To Sean Spicer, as you see this, what do you 270 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: think should be done with this? 271 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 6: So if I were a tech leader, right, I'd go 272 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 6: out and say, guys, the American people aren't with us anymore, 273 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 6: kind of the same way that corporate America lost the 274 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 6: American people, Right, So I would go back and I 275 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 6: would say, all right, we need to do things to 276 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 6: help American citizens take these jobs. What can we show 277 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 6: that we're willing to man up and do We're going 278 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 6: to establish scholarship, so we're going to establish training programs. 279 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: But they need to have skin in the game. 280 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 6: They can't just bypass American citizens get the cheap labor. 281 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 6: As you pointed out for these comments and even that 282 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 6: Chris Hayes's clip that you played, this is indentured certitude 283 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 6: for these folks. They come over and they're trapped in 284 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 6: a job. How's that any different just because they're making 285 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 6: a few more bucks. They have no ability to say 286 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 6: or do anything. Are you going to speak up at 287 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 6: your job if something's going wrong, if you know that 288 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 6: your visa is tied to your ability to stay in 289 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 6: the country. 290 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 4: So what I think these tech companies need to. 291 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 6: Do is show immediately that they're willing to skin in 292 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 6: the game when it comes to putting American people first, 293 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 6: whether that's scholarship, training programs, stem, you know, things. 294 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: But they've got to do more. 295 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 6: They can't just sit back and say, oh, sorry, this 296 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 6: is the way it is, and we need this labor. 297 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: Sean, where do people get the show? Where do they 298 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,479 Speaker 2: go to get your social media. 299 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: Shawn Spicer dot com is everything. 300 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 6: My show airs every night at six o'clock on my 301 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 6: YouTube channel. Sean just go to Shawn Spicer six pm 302 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 6: every night. I appreciate you coming on and anything on 303 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 6: Twitter on exits Sean Spicer. So thank you Steve for 304 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 6: calling us. 305 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: Out now, Sean, we're going to have any lucky in 306 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: getting you into these Are we going to get you 307 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: into any lucky getting you into the second term? 308 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: Sir? 309 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: Can we break some news here? I'll tell you what 310 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: if you go, I go, Commander. Happy New Year, Commander Spicy, 311 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: thanks for having me on you bet, thank you. Robert 312 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: Shaw Corral will take us out here on New Year's 313 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: Eve here in the War room, very special guest Batya 314 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: Unger Sargon is going to join us next to talk 315 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: about the plight of the American working man and woman 316 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: when the entire system is rigged against him. Short commercial 317 00:14:18,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: break back in the war in just a moment, saying no. 318 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 8: To the selling out of the future of their children. 319 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 8: And it is so dispiriting to see this coming from 320 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 8: the so called right. And I think you nailed it, Rachel. 321 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 8: These people do not believe in national borders. They don't 322 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 8: know what a nation is. They don't know what it 323 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 8: means to feel a sense of obligation, not just to 324 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 8: our fellow Americans, because they are fellow Americans, but to 325 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 8: people who have less than you. What happened to no 326 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 8: bless obligee? Elon Muski, you are the richest man in 327 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 8: the world. 328 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: You can't have a little bit. 329 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 8: Of respect for the country and the people in it 330 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 8: and the working class of the nation that gave you 331 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 8: that privilege. 332 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: You have no. 333 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 8: Respect for the God who gave you that privilege. It 334 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 8: is so utterly infuriating, and I'm so grateful to you 335 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 8: and to patriots Steve Bannon, our national hero, for towing 336 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 8: the line and holding the line on this and saying no, no, 337 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 8: we will not sit here and cheer as they take 338 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 8: good jobs away from Americans and give them to other people. 339 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 4: And so what is the answer? 340 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 9: I mean, I think about this. 341 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: If we keep. 342 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 9: Importing foreign labor to meet this demand, if we keep, 343 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 9: as you said, driving the wages down, we don't want 344 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 9: to get to the root of the problem. 345 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: If Eveig is right that you. 346 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 9: Know we need more, we need more people, which I'm 347 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 9: not entirely convinced that that that. 348 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: That is the case. 349 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 9: We also could set up programs in inner cities to 350 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 9: prepare them to code and do these are entry level jobs. 351 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 9: Let's not pretend like these are. A lot of these 352 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 9: are super super high tech. Some of them are entry 353 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 9: level and people can be trained into them. But that 354 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 9: would require the oligarchs, to the Titans of the universe, 355 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 9: to take less money and invest in this. For our 356 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 9: government to invest in those kinds of programs. 357 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 8: You're totally right, And think of the irony here, Rachel. 358 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 8: They shipped all their good manufacturing jobs overseas and said 359 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 8: we'll teach them to code. Now it turns out no, actually, 360 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 8: we're going to import people to do the coding right exactly. 361 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 9: So I want to end on what I think is 362 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 9: a positive note because what I see is left and 363 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 9: right coming together in this Why don't we talk about 364 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 9: that a little bit cause I think it's a really 365 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 9: positive thing. 366 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, I mean, this moment revealed that the divide 367 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 8: in this country is not left versus right, and it's 368 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 8: certainly not God forbid racial. It is the multi racial, 369 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 8: multi ethnic working class coalition coming together and taking on 370 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 8: the oligarchs. Both the over credentialed college elites and the 371 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 8: oligarchs of Silicon Valley and saying we're going to stand together, Black, White, Hispanic, Jewish, 372 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 8: Asian working class Americans are going to stand together for 373 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 8: the future of their children. 374 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm really glad that you came, and I have 375 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 9: to tell you, I think this debate that's going on 376 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 9: is incredibly important, and I'm glad we're having it, and 377 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 9: I'm glad and I'm grateful to Elon Musk that it's 378 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 9: happening on Twitter. 379 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: Rachel Duffy, one of the smartest stuff folks over at 380 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: Fox with our guests, the author of Second Class, and 381 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: boy is she Naila. We know the audience will have 382 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: the book Second Class, how the elites portrayed America's working 383 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: men and women. Batia Unger Sargon, talk to me for 384 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: a moment about this left and right coming together, because 385 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: you're one hundred percent correct. This is about American citizens 386 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: in MSMEC last night. Couldn't get over there. So well. 387 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: We do agree with Bannon on this populism, but we 388 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: know he's a racist, and we know they're all white nationalists. 389 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: This is a true coming together of the populist movement 390 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: of both left and right. To defend American citizens, is 391 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: it not, ma'am. 392 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 7: Christ of all, thank you so much for having me. 393 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 7: It is such an honor to be here with you. 394 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 8: They literally put you in prison because you were revealing 395 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 8: the truth, which is that the divide in this country 396 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 8: is not racial. It's between the elites and the multi 397 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 8: racial working class, who all want better jobs for their children, 398 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 8: all want a future in this country that reflects them 399 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 8: and their values and their hard work. And what the 400 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 8: left does and now the tech pro right as well, 401 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 8: is they try to racialize this to hide the fact 402 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 8: that this is about citizenship. It is supposed to mean 403 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 8: something to be an American citizen. And this is something 404 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 8: that working class people of all races intuitively understand, and 405 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 8: it is something that the oligarchs on both sides not 406 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 8: only do they not understand it, mister Bannon, but they 407 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 8: have invested everything in erasing the concept of citizenship, erasing 408 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 8: the concept of a nation state and national borders. Why 409 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 8: because they have gotten very, very very rich doing that. 410 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 8: And that is the whole game here. It was the 411 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 8: game when the left was calling working class people of 412 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 8: all races racist because they want a future for their children, 413 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 8: and it's the whole game. When Elon Musk and vive 414 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 8: Bramaswami say that they're too lazy and stupid, yes, they 415 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 8: said that to your faces. It's the whole game. And 416 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 8: you have been on this from day one, mister Bannon. 417 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 8: You are a national hero and a patriot who taught 418 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 8: me what a real story in this country is. 419 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: How can they get how can they continue to get 420 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: away with this? This what's confusing to me. And you know, 421 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: Elon retweeted, somebody called American workers retarded the ves just 422 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: basically you could see the underpinnings of the hatred of 423 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 2: the American people right there. But how can they get 424 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: away with all? 425 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: Night? 426 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: Last time seeing in an MSNBC highly skilled foreign workers, 427 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: highly skilled foreign workers, Americans are not qualified to do 428 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: these jobs when we know from the evidence in the facts, 429 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: these are principally entry level jobs. We've asked them, We've 430 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: asked the millions that have come in here on these 431 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: visas show us one example, one example where an American 432 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: tech worker didn't have the qualifications to do that job. 433 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 2: We have yet to get an answer on one of 434 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: the millions that have come here over the twenty to 435 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: thirty years of this program. But how can they continue 436 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: to sell the fact that Americans either not qualified, these 437 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 2: are highly qualified foreigners are coming over, or Americans don't 438 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: want the jobs and the jobs are going open, which 439 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: both are bald face lies, ma'am. 440 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 8: They can continue to sell it because there is an 441 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 8: elite in this country that is very, very hungry to 442 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 8: buy it because it puts money in their pockets. So, 443 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 8: if you have a college degree, you're in that knowledge industry, 444 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 8: and you are the consumer of working class or middle 445 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 8: class labor, of course you want an open border because 446 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 8: it puts money in your pocket. Of Course you want 447 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 8: to ship manufacturing overseas because then when you buy things, 448 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 8: you can. 449 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 7: Buy cheap stuff. 450 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 8: And guess what else, when you go to compete in 451 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 8: the housing market, suddenly there's a lot less competition because 452 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 8: the top twenty percent is controlling over fifty percent of 453 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 8: the GDP, which means that you're no longer competing with 454 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 8: your cleaning lady or your landscaper when it comes to. 455 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 7: Buying a home. 456 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 8: Suddenly it's much easier for you to achieve the American 457 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 8: dream while you are consuming the labor of an American 458 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 8: who can no longer afford that American dream. We used 459 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 8: to believe that this was our god given right, Our 460 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 8: rights in this country are guaranteed by God, and that 461 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 8: that is something that means something that binds us together 462 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 8: as citizens of this great nation culturally and economically and socially. 463 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 7: And of course this is not about race. 464 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 8: This is something that binds Americans of all races together. 465 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 8: But the oligarchs on the left, the over credentilled college elites, 466 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 8: and now the tech bro rights, these people don't believe 467 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 8: in these things because to destroy the concept of the 468 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 8: nation is to put millions and billions. 469 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 7: Of dollars back in their pockets. 470 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 8: You know, they're always saying that mass immigration raises the GDP. 471 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 8: Of course it raises the GDP. It makes oligarch's unbelievably 472 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 8: wealthy to have a limitless supply of low wage, indentured servitude. 473 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 8: The problem is is that it makes Americans much poorer. 474 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 8: And what you have done, mister Bannon, is given voice 475 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 8: to the masses who did not have a voice to 476 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 8: object when there was a handshake agreement pre Trump between 477 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 8: both parties to further destroy the border, ship jobs overseas 478 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 8: and import a slave cast who are indentured servants or 479 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 8: enslaved to cartels to do lowage and working class and 480 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 8: middle class jobs. Here, it's the whole game. They are 481 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 8: getting rich off of the working class. It is class 482 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 8: warfare from the top, from the elites on both sides 483 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 8: against the multi racial working class coalition. 484 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: Did you find this out? Give me a minute before 485 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 2: we go to break on Second Class, because your book, well, 486 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: we had you on here, the audience loved it. But 487 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 2: you've been working on this for years? How did you 488 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: get the idea? Just tell me the idea? First was 489 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: second Class? How the elites portrayed America's working men and women? 490 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: How'd you come up with the whole concept of it. 491 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 8: I had started to notice that the real divide in 492 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 8: this country was not racial, and was not. 493 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 7: Between even left versus right. 494 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 8: I was doing a lot of reporting from the South 495 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 8: during the first Trump era, and I had gone into 496 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 8: that reporting as a woke leftist, and I was expecting 497 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 8: that I was going to find all of this racism. 498 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 8: And what did I find the exact opposite, That the 499 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 8: demand for instances of racism in this country from the 500 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 8: leftist elites was totally totally superseding the actual supply, and 501 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 8: I was really shocked by this, and I started to 502 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 8: think about, well, how come I am so shocked by this, Like, 503 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 8: how come I was under the illusion that this was 504 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 8: still a white supremacist country and that everybody who voted 505 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 8: for the other party than I did was a white 506 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 8: supremacist or a racist. 507 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 7: That was my first book. 508 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 8: It's called Bad News, How woke Media is Undermining Democracy, 509 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 8: and it's about how the media, which is extremely woke, 510 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 8: perpetuated this myth about racism in America. And having discovered 511 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 8: that the real divide was not racial, and it was 512 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 8: really the class divide, and the reason the media was 513 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 8: so biased against Republicans was because the Republican Party was 514 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 8: becoming the working class party. I then started to uncover 515 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 8: this class divide, and I wanted to write a book 516 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 8: about that. I wanted to allow working class people, in 517 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 8: their own voices, to talk about the struggle for dignity 518 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 8: in a country where the Democrats had created an economy 519 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 8: that was an upward funnel of wealth from the middle 520 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 8: class into the pockets of the elites. 521 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 7: And so I traveled around the country for a year. 522 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 8: I interviewed working class people of all races who vote 523 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 8: for both parties, and I found that there was a 524 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 8: lot of consensus and unity among these people. And of course, 525 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 8: what you know and what all of your viewers know, 526 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 8: which is that this is the greatest country on Earth. 527 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 7: And we have to fight, fight, fight to keep it 528 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 7: that way. 529 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: And the greatest resource of the greatest country on Earth, 530 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: it's its people in their struggle for dignity. Work with dignity. 531 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: Short commercial break, The Dublin Woman's Choir is going to 532 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: take us out with old lang Zion. We're going to 533 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 2: be back in a moment with our guests Batya Unger 534 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: Sargon here on a New Year's Eve, the last day 535 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four. What a year. Short break back 536 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 2: in a. 537 00:26:28,080 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: Moment over the one be visa is the one that 538 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: folks like Steven Miller and Stephen Bannon have been pushing 539 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: for years that we should restrict, limit, perhaps and all 540 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: immigration in the US, legal and illegal, right stuff of 541 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 1: the border around asylum, but also h one b visas. 542 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean, just listen to the two of them. Bannon's 543 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: old radio show back in March of twenty sixteen, is 544 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: before Trump was even the Republican nominee. 545 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: Take a list and they see these oligarchs down there 546 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: with fifty four private jets and they're not down there 547 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: for their health. They're called together by Carl Rove and 548 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 2: it's a stop Trump movement. It's a stop Trump movement 549 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: because they want unlimited HB one visas. Isn't the beating 550 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: heart of this problem right now, The real beating heart 551 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: of it of what we've got to get sorted here 552 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 2: is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is, and 553 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 2: it's horrific. It don't only have a problem. We've looked 554 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: the other way on this legal immigration that's kind of 555 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: overwhelmed the country. 556 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: The history of America is that an immigration on period 557 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 3: is followed by an immigration off period. 558 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: So see be very clear, right H one B visa's 559 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: legal immigration and immigration off period. Like they have a 560 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: pretty clear vision. Miller's gonna be the one writing that 561 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: border bill. 562 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: We have a very clear vision. For folks who have 563 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: just come to this show of the last year or 564 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: a couple of years, this has been a I don't know, 565 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: ten twelve year project. The years of fifteen and sixteen 566 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: were trench warfare, and fourteen with with Dave Bratt coming on, 567 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 2: seeing the huge victory. We had taken now Cantrick, we 568 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: could walk you through. And Steven Miller, who had been 569 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 2: on Michelle Bachmann's staff and then went to Jeff Sessions, 570 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: and Jeff Session kind of held the line in the Senate. 571 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: But so when when people like David Sachson and Elon 572 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: Musk and Vivic Ramaswami show up, Dude, I've taken down 573 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: bigger guys than that a decade ago. Okay, you think 574 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 2: the odds odds along against these guys, or the odds 575 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: arelong against Biden you ssually seeing the odds against Trump 576 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: at the beginning. That was an event. I was doing 577 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: Breitbart News Radio meeting of the audience. That was really 578 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: a call in show. I mainly took calls. I would 579 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: have guests like Stephen Miller, something big came up. Principally 580 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: we would have a big calling over a serious ExM 581 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: as a morning show six to nine. We that was 582 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: a group of Carl Rove and I used the term 583 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: oligarchs and people, but what are you talking about? They all, 584 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: I think it was fifty four of them got together 585 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: in an I think it was an island off of 586 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: South Carolina to have an emergency meeting in March of 587 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: how did they stop Trump? Trump was running the tables 588 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: and I think he had just won Super Tuesday. How 589 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: to stop Trump? With with these uh primaries that were left? 590 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: How to stop Trump? And how I put as much 591 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: money as possible. And the issue, one of the big 592 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: issues was H one B visus because I said, but look, 593 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: it's it's immigration overall. What Biden did is so radical, 594 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: was to crush, to try to defeat inflation, to crush 595 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: the relatively low skilled or unskilled workers African American and 596 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: principally Hispanic by allowing I don't know, eight ten, twelve, fourteen, fifteen, 597 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 2: you picked the number millions and millions of millions of people. 598 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: And now they argue it's bought. You just told you, well, 599 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: it added one percent to the GDP because they're taking 600 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: all their money and buying doritos. They'll always come up 601 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: with another line. But back then it was the same issue, 602 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: H one B visus. And remember we do have a 603 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: clear vision. It's total immigration. I'm again right now, I 604 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: say we must demand a moratorium, all all immigration, all 605 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 2: the students, everything, a moratorium. We just got to settle 606 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: down and figure this thing out because the system's been 607 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: gained for decades and decades and decades. And who pays 608 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 2: the price? Who pays the price? The American citizen? Do 609 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: you not have enough on your shoulders? Is the anxiety 610 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: not enough? 611 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: Now? 612 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: It's yesterday? What have I been saying on here? Credit 613 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: cards at one point two trillion dollars face amount the 614 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: credit card companies just wrote off last quarter. I think 615 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: seventy eight billion dollars. My numbers correct up fourteen percent 616 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: on write else a credit card non performing the highest sense. 617 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm a thought of random date, the highest sense. Wait 618 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: for a random date. You're waiting for it, You're ready 619 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: for it. Two thousand and eight. Is that date ring 620 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: a bell? Because that's the beginning of the collapse of 621 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 2: the elites in this country, the financial collapse that they 622 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 2: manufactured and they made a fortune off of. And then 623 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: because the most progressive and hey, Bush got us into this. 624 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: He's the worst president this country has had since Buchanan. 625 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter, God rest his soul, and he'll have his 626 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 2: state funeral next week. Jimmy Carter in the top five. 627 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: But you got to throw Biden, and you've got to 628 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: put Bush right there in back of Buchanan, Okay, two 629 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,239 Speaker 2: thousand and eight crash. But Obama, the most progressive, the 630 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: most progressive president in history, did the most neoliberal bailout, 631 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: bailout the elites. The greatest concentration of wealth happened on 632 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 2: that watch of how they bailed it out and how 633 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: they destroyed the working class of middle class. And we 634 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: have never recovered from that. Even Trump's kind of three 635 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: Golden years of really seventeen eighteen ninety, particularly eighteen and 636 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: nineteen partially recovered, but not fully. A long way from fully, 637 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: but at least it was the start. So this fight 638 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: has gone on because the elites in this country that 639 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: have control, they always want to go to where they 640 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: want to crush labor, whether they allow fifteen million illegal 641 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: aliens to come here to compete against African Americans in 642 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: blacks at the lower end of the of the skill set, 643 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: or whether they the private equity and venture capitalists and 644 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: hedge fund guys ship the manufacturing jobs over to China, 645 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: so L'albaijing can work as slave labors under the dictatory 646 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: regime of the Chinese Commuist Party and ship all your 647 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: manufacturing jobs over there. So as Batia said, you can 648 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: buy cheaper stuff here, or if they can't outsource it, 649 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: they'll just bring them here and lie to you, bald face, lie, 650 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: here's what we at least a lie. It would like 651 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: enough respect to let's have a debate. Let's have a debate. 652 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: Be upfront about it. You want lower wages. I got it. 653 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: You want lower wages because you get higher margins. And 654 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: remember most of these kind of what I call these 655 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: companies are algorithm companies. Right if you get those guys 656 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: at a third lesson that. Yesterday us tech workers walked 657 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: us through the number, and Will Upton walked us through 658 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: the number. It's about your cutting off a third to 659 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: forty percent of labor cost. I get it. I went 660 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: to Harvard Business School, I worked at Goldman. I can 661 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: do the math. I got it. That's a big that's 662 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: a higher margin. And guess what that's going to get 663 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: your high multiple in the stock market. And that means 664 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: Elon you're gonna be richer, and David Sacks you're gonna 665 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: be richer. And Vivid you're gonna be richer. Oh it's 666 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: a side note on all of this. I kind of 667 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: I don't need and I think as a citizen of 668 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: this country, what we don't need is white guys from 669 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: South Africa lecturing us like Peter Teo and David Sacks 670 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 2: and Elon Musk. We don't need white guys from South 671 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: Africa lecturing us on how the way things should be. 672 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 2: Let me be blunt about that. I don't think that 673 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: country's got the greatest track record on Earth. Okay, we've 674 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 2: gone through a number of struggles ourselves, but we walked 675 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: them through. Okay, not perfect, far from perfect. But I 676 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: don't need guys from South Africa telling us the way 677 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 2: the social order in this country is. And they particularly 678 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 2: don't need a South African telling me that the people 679 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,479 Speaker 2: in the United States, the workforce is retarded. Okay, don't 680 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: need that. 681 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 4: Now. 682 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 2: The good news is, and you see the fight all 683 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: the way back to there where they couldn't stop Trump, 684 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 2: didn't stop Trump. They tried to pull out every stop. 685 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 2: The good news is, you know they talked a big game. 686 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 2: Oh they're going to fight to the ends of the earth. 687 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: This is so important. Remember they start off with H 688 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: one B. Visus has made all his companies in the 689 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: Rocket Company, and all these companies have made them and 690 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: I will fight to the you. I will show you 691 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 2: types of warfare that you can't even comprehend after I 692 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: f you in the face, to which I said, yo, child, 693 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: Protective Services. Can you have a wellness check on this toddler? Dude, 694 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 2: you have no earthy idea how to fight. What they're 695 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: doing now is spamming like the Twitter feed and you know, 696 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: and suppressing air tour feed. Dude, We're banned everywhere and 697 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: the show's bigger than every and we just took you 698 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: on and ripped your face off. So I don't care 699 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 2: what you do on Twitter. It doesn't matter, does not matter. 700 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: Bring everything you've got, okay, because we're not going to 701 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: lose this fight. You've already surrendered after two Oh oh, well, 702 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: you know it needs reflect Well at first you told 703 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 2: me it was great and now all the tech companies 704 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: depend upon it. It was the most perfect thing. Then an 705 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: hour later it's it's it needs reform. And here's what 706 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: we need to do. We need to pay this higher 707 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: and Theresa A no, that's all a lie, and we're 708 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: not buying it anymore. You can lie and spin other people, 709 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: you ain't spending us. Here's here's what we demand doze, doze. 710 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 2: The first thing at the top of your list. We 711 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: want the complete eradication of this program, all of it, 712 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 2: not some of it, not, reform some of it, all 713 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: of it. Get rid of it. It's a blight upon 714 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 2: the American people. And somebody said, well, Steve, why do 715 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: you put you know, we've got to be together. No, 716 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 2: this is about the direction of our country, and this 717 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 2: is central to it. Either citizenship means something or it doesn't. 718 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: And the one way did you get to mean something 719 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 2: is to stop bringing the world into people's homes, into 720 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 2: people's own nation that they have held build and generations 721 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: of their families have helped build, and helped defend and 722 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: fight for and pay taxes for and be the little 723 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: platoons to build the civic society, and they got nothing 724 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 2: to show for it. After five or six or seven generations. 725 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: You just got this anxiety. What hamms have it? Get 726 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 2: laid off? And we know the suppressing wages that they're 727 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: suppressing wages by taking the jobs of China. They're suppressing 728 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: wages by outsourcing jobs, the more marketing and telephonic jobs, 729 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 2: and what they can't do there, they're going to bring 730 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: them here. They're gonna get up in your grill. Why 731 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: do you think Trump won. Why do you think blacks 732 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: and Hispanics voting for them? Because they look around their 733 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 2: cities they go, hey, I finally got the joke they're 734 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 2: coming from me. Think of how brutal and how nasty 735 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: the elites in this country are they would allow and 736 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: actually organize because this is all very organized. It's all 737 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: very organized. Ten to fifteen million illegal alien innovators that 738 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: come into this country take jobs from the folks that 739 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 2: have the least skills in this country. Think about that 740 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: for a second. And here, if you've gone to engineering school, 741 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: you're gone. You try to get they're gonna import on 742 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: a ball faced lie, higher skilled foreign workers, high skilled 743 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 2: foreign workers. The skills are not any different than American citizens. 744 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: And don't sit there and lie. You can't fill those spots. 745 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: You go out of your way. You go out of 746 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: your way to gun deck the entire thing. So you 747 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: can do that because they're more compliant. The reason they 748 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: got to be compliant in twenty first century America, we 749 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 2: have indentured servitude as much as that was a scar 750 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 2: in the country in the nineteenth century, and we're doing 751 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: it here. In front of your eyes, and we have 752 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: baionnaires that are worth a fortune. They're gonna sit there 753 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: and look at you. Oh, you're a liar. Show enough 754 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: respect for the citizens country to just be honest. Let's 755 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 2: have a debate. We want lower wages. I got that. 756 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: I understand it. It's not going to happen, but I 757 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: understand it. But do not sit there and play us 758 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: for fools, because we've only just started to fight. Okay, 759 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 2: somebody gave me a compliment the other day in some article. 760 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: They said, this guy's a thug, but he wins at 761 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 2: any cost. I don't care what you call me. Okay, 762 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 2: but we're not going to lose this fight. We want 763 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 2: to complete e visceration, eradication of this entire program. One two, 764 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 2: we want everybody here, one of these visas deported immediately. 765 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 2: As soon as you deport these fifteen years in the 766 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: same time, Frank home and get a ticket for him, boom, 767 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 2: send them home. In immediate hiring of American citizens, regardless 768 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: of race, ethnicity, religion, gender, to fill those jobs that 769 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: American citizens should have. And then yes, yes, we need 770 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 2: to sit down with the companies, the private equity companies, 771 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 2: the owners and have a discussion. Well, hang on for 772 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 2: a second. You did this for decades and you stole 773 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: people's futures. Look how many white men look at a 774 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: black men look at me? Spanning men or not in 775 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 2: the workforce? Was it fifty or sixty or seventy million 776 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 2: in the prime years of their lives? Do you understand 777 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 2: how this eats away at the soul. You are cruel 778 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 2: and you are barbaric, and we are not going to 779 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 2: tolerate it. I have not yet begun to fight. Okay, 780 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 2: and if you guys want to continue on, we will 781 00:40:48,719 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: beat you into submission. Short break. Stephen k bam so 782 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 2: bot you. And by the way, we're calling for we 783 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: know this student program visa, there's all of these are scams. 784 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 2: They're all scams. The student visa program scam. You get 785 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 2: other programs here, there's dozens of they're trying to game 786 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 2: the system against you, against you, and we're going to 787 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 2: deconstruct it all. We want a one thousand percent total 788 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: and complete more torment all lead quote unquote legal it's 789 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 2: not legal immigration. Do you think the H one B 790 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 2: visa is legal? It's not legal. It's a scam. It's 791 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 2: a one hundred percent scam. Please, we've begging you guys. 792 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 2: Show me the excellence. Show me how these people, these 793 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 2: skilled foreign workers, the highly skilled foreign workers that you 794 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 2: bring over here as essentially slave labor into the country 795 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 2: and pay them nothing. And they got to be compliant 796 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 2: to work one hundred hours a week because if they 797 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 2: don't say any then you're gonna ship them back. And 798 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: they got a shot if they keep their head down 799 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 2: to get a green car to get through the golden 800 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: door and then have chain migration. This is how purely 801 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 2: evil you are. You are evil. So don't sit there, 802 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 2: unctious and lecture us the South Africans. You're gonna lecture 803 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: us not didn't not enough evil come out of South Africa, sirs? Yeah, 804 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: I went there because I'm not going to tolerate. This 805 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 2: is the United States of America. We're not gonna be 806 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 2: lectured by a bunch of white guys from South Africa. 807 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 2: Don't need it, you unctious. Yesterday you had a defender 808 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 2: on here. She was fantastic, Alison Wynn, who knows you classy, 809 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 2: very smart Stanford knows Elon brillyant guy, smart guy. You 810 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 2: know he's going to colonize the Mars. That's a complicated 811 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 2: engineering project, and he is quite a brilliant engineer. You 812 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: one might argue he's not Tesla at that level, but 813 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 2: he's Edison at another level. Okay, that's a pretty good compliment. 814 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 2: We've had I don't know one or two of those 815 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 2: in the history of this republic. We got one there. 816 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: But you know what, you know what, if you can 817 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 2: work out the mathematical formulas in the engineering a complexity 818 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 2: of sending a colony of human beings to Mars and 819 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 2: keep them alive, you can work through the math on this. 820 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 2: And you know it's a bald face lie. And here's 821 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 2: I know you know it's a bald face lie because 822 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 2: you cratered as soon as we got up in your grill. 823 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 2: Oh okay, fine, well I won't fight to the death. 824 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 2: I'm not going to fight to the death in charl 825 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 2: kind of new times for warfare. Why don't we reform? 826 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 2: We need reform? And you go to some bs answering 827 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 2: you think we're going to buy that. Where did you 828 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 2: come from? 829 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 3: Dude? 830 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 2: Here's what you need to do. You need to study 831 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 2: modern political history of the fights we've been through for 832 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 2: twelve or fourteen years to get to this spot. You 833 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: think this just cause people just wandering around. People have 834 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: worked for over a deck, pounding this, pounding this, pounding this. 835 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 2: And that's how relentless the established order is. Because Bacia 836 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: told you, they're making a lot of money and they 837 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 2: have control. And this is about money and powers, not 838 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 2: about race. It's not about gender, it's not about ethnicity, 839 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: it's not about religion. That's what they want you to 840 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 2: believe it is. So you're like a bucket of crabs 841 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 2: at each other's throat. It's not about that's about money 842 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: and power. And Carl Ro's gonna get his fifty four 843 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,840 Speaker 2: big donors down there. They're gonna figure out how to 844 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 2: stop Trump or how to compromise it. And they will 845 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 2: use Ted Cruz, they'll use Little Marco, or they'll use 846 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: Jeb Bush, or they don't care who they use. They'll 847 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 2: throw up some chopped block. They'll misdirect you and look 848 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 2: at this and that there's some racism over there, you 849 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: white folks, go look at that. That's a Fox specialty. 850 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 2: We don't fall for that. So I don't think you're 851 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: gonna come back and oh, you know, well, what we 852 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 2: need to do is increase it here and cut that car. 853 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: They screw you, you clown, and then you got to 854 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 2: suppress us over there. I don't know black listening, whatever 855 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 2: they're doing to I don't care what they do on Twitter. 856 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 2: I could care less. And we're banned on every platform 857 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 2: in the world. And this show is one of the 858 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: most powerful in the world. Why is that Because the 859 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 2: content of the show resonates with the most powerful audience 860 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 2: in the world, working men and women that happen to 861 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 2: be citizens of this great republic. This is a defining movie, 862 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 2: he says. Some of the people say, oh, Steve, you 863 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 2: gotta we gotta have a group hug. You can't do 864 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: this and let the Democrats. No, no, we're not having 865 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 2: group hugs. We're not having pats on the head. You 866 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 2: got to get this straight. First off, you got to 867 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 2: get hey. I've said many times that Elon came and 868 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 2: Elon's money helped organize the grassroots of it. In his 869 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 2: engineering mind, he saw what the problem was as we 870 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 2: saw it, and he supported it. And for that he 871 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 2: gets a place at the table. There's no doubt you should. 872 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 2: It's a quarter of a billion dollars in June, not 873 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 2: an entire cycle in five months. But that dinner with 874 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 2: Sacks and that check from Elon came at Biden's you 875 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 2: know when Biden, you know, in the debate, right before 876 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 2: the debate and Biden, you know, they kind of saw 877 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 2: the numbers where this thing was heading. They're recent converts, 878 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 2: and we love converts. Hell, I'm I'm a Catholic. We 879 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: used to be in the convert business. Not so much anymore. 880 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 2: We can't keep what we got. But in the old days, 881 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 2: you know, half the Saints are missionaries. We loving converts. 882 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: But the converts sit in the back and study for 883 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 2: years and years and years and make sure you understand 884 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 2: the faith, and you understand the nuances of the faith 885 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 2: and understand how you can internalize the faith. Don't come 886 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,359 Speaker 2: up and go to the pulpit in your first week 887 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 2: here and start lecturing people about the way things are. 888 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 2: If you're gonna do that, we're gonna get and we're 889 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:08,439 Speaker 2: gonna rip your face off because you can't beat us. 890 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: We're not beatable. This army the Awakens not beatable because 891 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,919 Speaker 2: we're relentless and we will never surrender and we will 892 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 2: never slow down. And yes, if you go low, we'll 893 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 2: go to the center of the earth because we're fighting 894 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 2: for something that means something. We have a meaning in this. 895 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 2: This is why people watch the show. This is why 896 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 2: people come to this show and all this great content 897 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 2: people provide us. And Ben Berkwom's down now, putting his 898 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 2: life in danger again. Why did people do this? Why 899 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 2: have they done this for years? Why they do it 900 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 2: for years? At Breitbart? Why did when Trump started appearing 901 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 2: in thirteen or fourteen we said, that's the guy. Why 902 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 2: was it because it had been a struggle before that. 903 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 2: We're not we didn't come in here in June, and 904 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 2: we're not saying oh, just because you came late. No, 905 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 2: you can be part of this, but you're not gonna 906 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 2: sit here and lie to us, to our face and 907 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 2: expect us say, oh, because you're worth five hundred billion dollars. 908 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 2: You people that are taking money, take money. I don't 909 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,479 Speaker 2: care bow down in Cowtown. I don't care. I could 910 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 2: care less. I'm a crazy, fricking irishman and I will 911 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 2: never I didn't Cowtown on Nancy PELUSI put me in 912 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 2: a federal prison for foremance, and I didn't care spitting 913 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 2: their face when I went in, I spitting their eye 914 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 2: when I came out. I literally do not care. And 915 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 2: that is the first step in the path the victory. 916 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 2: One hundred percent moratorium on all immigration until we get 917 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 2: this thing sorted and we can go through the lies 918 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 2: of this legal immigration for decades and decades and decades. 919 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 2: Short break