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Speaker 4: load glasses Malone. So now it's like normally I do
Speaker 4: it on Sunday evenings. I do all my pads on
Speaker 4: Sunday evening because it's kind of like a slow day.
Speaker 4: Usually give me enough time to figure out how to
Speaker 4: make a conversation interesting, not like cause you know, I
Speaker 4: don't do it like other people.
Speaker 2: I don't cover weekly topics.
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 4: This is not like a daily show. So one thing
Speaker 4: like going into season five and those seilings. I always
Speaker 4: try to wrap the idea and something that's grander, I mean,
Speaker 4: a bigger conversation to where if you heard it ten
Speaker 4: years from now, the conversation still could be relevant. Like
Speaker 4: I'm not knocking nobody who looks at this week's topics
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, yeah, well I'm gonna talk about
Speaker 4: this week.
Speaker 2: It's like I try not to do that.
Speaker 4: I try to. I try my best to make a
Speaker 4: grander conversation.
Speaker 1: Ain't the wrong with that? At least you're doing something
Speaker 1: the recently.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and it don't necessarily get you the
Speaker 4: instant weekly They don't get you the instant weekly impact
Speaker 4: if I talked about somebody fighting today or something that
Speaker 4: happened right today. But when you discover the podcast, if
Speaker 4: you discover the podcast five months from now, the conversation
Speaker 4: is still rich. Like people are hitting me every day
Speaker 4: as they discover no ceilings from something we was talking
Speaker 4: about in the third season. That's relevant right now.
Speaker 2: Still what you.
Speaker 1: Do evergreen content, you don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to really cover weekly topics too, because
Speaker 1: just make your podcast get old fast.
Speaker 4: I mean to me, like if I was gonna do
Speaker 4: a weekly like a like a daily topic, I would
Speaker 4: need to do it every day, like the view of something, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Monday through Friday.
Speaker 2: Then I would cover weekly topics.
Speaker 4: But you know, if we given an eye like you know,
Speaker 4: once a week, It's like I'm trying to make sure
Speaker 4: the conversation is rich and wealth and wealthy and knowledge.
Speaker 2: I mean, some kind of perspective that's unique.
Speaker 1: You know. Speaking of that, man, I had a dude
Speaker 1: hit me up man from Detroit. Man, dude is just
Speaker 1: now getting out the Feds. He was a part of that.
Speaker 1: Like they had like a multimillion dollar credit card ring
Speaker 1: going at Walmart.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that. No, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: They was going to go get you know, using the
Speaker 1: cars to buy gift cards at Walmart. They bought like
Speaker 1: a couple like maybe like five or six million dollars
Speaker 1: worth of gift cards or whatever. Yeah, we gonna have
Speaker 1: him on the show. Man. I want to you know,
Speaker 1: like talking to people like that is just interesting, man.
Speaker 1: Just a criminal mind is so interesting. Bro. We got
Speaker 1: some real genius people in the community. Bro, And which
Speaker 1: community in the black community? Like you know, some of
Speaker 1: these schemes these dudes be pulling off the pretty incredible
Speaker 1: they don't, you know, don't little bit of stuff.
Speaker 4: I try not to say the Black community because it's
Speaker 4: such a unique thing. I always try to say Black
Speaker 4: America because black community is so disingenuous in thought.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: It is some It's it's some people that be thinking
Speaker 4: of definitely how to pull some stuff off.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They don't play when it comes to pulling something off,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I respect all of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, managers now, bro, but.
Speaker 4: Do you wonder like still because it is Gangster Chronicles,
Speaker 4: Like I think that fits gangst the Chronicles, but it
Speaker 4: don't fit the evolution against the rap chronicles.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I think we always got a
Speaker 1: place to kind of like us. I think that's where
Speaker 1: the show started at it was throwing those type of people. Sure,
Speaker 1: I think it's cool to bringing in especially you know
Speaker 1: when they reach out to Ukon because they want to
Speaker 1: come on the show, you know, and I think that's good.
Speaker 1: When I kind of like that, I think it's just
Speaker 1: I think I think people make music about stuff like this.
Speaker 1: People make music about scamming out, and I think that's
Speaker 1: where that's where I kind of been envisioning, like kind
Speaker 1: of taking the show is this is getting arcuse. You know,
Speaker 1: this is our seventh season, so it's like I think about, like,
Speaker 1: way can I do it that nobody else is doing.
Speaker 1: I think that's cool to mix like the worlds of
Speaker 1: gangster rap with the actual people. That's like kind of
Speaker 1: like the muse for the gangster rappers.
Speaker 2: Sure, the culture itself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the culture yourself. Like this dude was a scammering
Speaker 1: and they called They said, what was the name of
Speaker 1: the mom? Where were they names? Let me bread this
Speaker 1: for you right here. Your family was good. I'm from Detroit.
Speaker 1: A few years ago I was making my name on
Speaker 1: the music scene managing artists. I had got picked up
Speaker 1: by the Fairs and received the six year Since I'm
Speaker 1: out now, no snitching. You can look my name with
Speaker 1: Rodney gets five six nine two one dash of three nine.
Speaker 1: But I have an interacing story and me and my
Speaker 1: crew were part of a multi million dollar card ring.
Speaker 1: Just google Rodney gets Walmart Detroit. We the reason they
Speaker 1: changed the system with Walmart and the AT and T stores.
Speaker 1: I feel I got something new to share because the
Speaker 1: average story being told is the violence, drug kingpon story,
Speaker 1: except no fraud, big story that's never been told yet.
Speaker 1: Check us out. And I thought, da this little they
Speaker 1: had a little name for their crew, Dog, and they
Speaker 1: was they've like influenced rap groups in Detroit and everything else.
Speaker 1: And he manages some some dudes now in Detroit and
Speaker 1: the Flint that's kind of popping, like Rio to young Og.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And what's the other dude's name on the real assigned
Speaker 1: to peasing, Yeah, yeah, he may manage them and stuff.
Speaker 1: So I thought it was you know, we got a
Speaker 1: really big following in Detroit and Chicago. Man, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: like two of the most outside of LA, like our
Speaker 1: three biggest markets of our fourth biggest markets are all
Speaker 1: cities is known for their gangsterism. Houston, Detroit, Chicago and LA.
Speaker 1: That's why I laugh. No, That's that's why I laugh.
Speaker 4: When people talk to me about they talk about some
Speaker 4: rapper as They'll be like, oh, this rapper did something
Speaker 4: for the culture, and I'm like, what did a rap
Speaker 4: orde for the culture? Like all rappers do is benefit
Speaker 4: from the culture. They don't do anything specifically for the culture.
Speaker 4: But again, that's where that word kind of gets confused
Speaker 4: when or like community, because the words themselves been watered
Speaker 4: down so crazy, like like the culture is the lifestyle itself.
Speaker 4: It's not the artistic expression which is the rapper. It's
Speaker 4: actually what's happening when it comes to how people are living.
Speaker 4: So like somebody will tell me something like, oh, you
Speaker 4: know this artist has been great for the culture, I'm like,
Speaker 4: how are they great for the culture?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And I appreciate that. I think that's where people like
Speaker 4: Adam twenty two DJ Vlad, people outside of the culture
Speaker 4: dog they see it in its true form, so they
Speaker 4: know exactly who to talk to. While people that were
Speaker 4: brought up with it and in it their whole life
Speaker 4: we kind of trying to Like I had a really
Speaker 4: interesting conversation with my homegirl Barbie today and King and
Speaker 4: they were just telling me how they felt. They were
Speaker 4: telling me how they felt about like you could see
Speaker 4: they're trying to move away from the culture. They like glasses. Man,
Speaker 4: I don't know what we are supposed to do with
Speaker 4: the Crypt store, right, It's like, oh, you know, we
Speaker 4: need to make the Malone store. And I'm like, it's
Speaker 4: funny because people inside of the culture are trying to
Speaker 4: move out of the culture, like they feel like they
Speaker 4: have access to mainstream America.
Speaker 2: Hold on, I.
Speaker 1: Just love like in the middle of class podcast, I
Speaker 1: can get up and say hold on. We usually just
Speaker 1: keep y' all there waiting, crazy, right. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I do kind of agree with I think
Speaker 1: I do kind of I was just telling the people,
Speaker 1: see I think I do. I think we all do
Speaker 1: that as we get older, we try to move away
Speaker 1: from the culture. Because it's like I always tell you
Speaker 1: about the Crypt because all I think about now is
Speaker 1: how if something never happened where you know, you did
Speaker 1: get him some Like let's say we got in some
Speaker 1: shit one day, they would probably try to bring your
Speaker 1: crip affiliation up and try to throw you some serious
Speaker 1: time at you. I looked at some cat today they
Speaker 1: gave some time too. They was talking about he was
Speaker 1: a terrorist. Man. I mean, it's definitely gonna be misunderstood
Speaker 1: on a mainstream level for sure. But that's kind of
Speaker 1: the risk you run, you know, being a voice and
Speaker 1: a representation of lifestyle for people in these predicaments. So
Speaker 1: you know it comes with it's risk too, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I think that's the confusion, right.
Speaker 4: You take somebody like Vlad or Adam or Flock or
Speaker 4: people that didn't grow up necessarily baptized in street urban culture.
Speaker 4: They I don't know if they water it down as
Speaker 4: much as they Okay, so there's the people who give. Well,
Speaker 4: first off, this is no ceilings. Welcome to the fifth season.
Speaker 4: Thank y'all for getting us to this point. I got
Speaker 4: my big brother, Steve Peter's on vacation. We was behind,
Speaker 4: so we made sure we still got it in to
Speaker 4: have fresh episodes. I didn't want to put up a
Speaker 4: stream for the lunch hour. You know, there are some
Speaker 4: great conversations. I still wanted you to have, you know,
Speaker 4: new places to examine and thought, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: So here we are.
Speaker 1: I think there's part do that.
Speaker 4: You know what I don't know, because I'll give no
Speaker 4: ceilings in the lunch our credit shout out to the
Speaker 4: lunch Table, but like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you know the people, the people on
Speaker 1: a lunch hour that already heard that conversation, they could
Speaker 1: look forward to no ceilings to hear something fresh and new.
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. It's like me with gangst
Speaker 1: the chronicles. I never put up I try not to
Speaker 1: ever put up like used material. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like because it's not good. I think we've been
Speaker 1: around too long and our audio audience is way too
Speaker 1: big for us just to be kind of bullshiting with
Speaker 1: people like that.
Speaker 2: You know, you know it's funny.
Speaker 4: I really feel like I should put fresh material up
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, right, and then give them the three episodes
Speaker 4: because there's a group of people who never heard the
Speaker 4: Lunch Table on YouTube, on digital soapbox, on the stream.
Speaker 4: So I notice all of these conversations are so rich
Speaker 4: and I mean intellectually they are so special.
Speaker 2: You feel me.
Speaker 4: So it's like, but back to the point Adams last flock, Oh,
Speaker 4: different people they see the value in street urban culture,
Speaker 4: not hip hop, where it's the artistic expression of street
Speaker 4: urban culture or the elemental expression, but the actual culture itself,
Speaker 4: you know, not the round place Master Jay in his essence,
Speaker 4: and they see the value in it. Meanwhile, we're running
Speaker 4: away from street urban culture.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what all these dudes do, and
Speaker 1: they got successful programs supporting y'all call me a hater.
Speaker 1: I'm far from hater. I maud with them dudes do.
Speaker 1: They do a very good job of what they do.
Speaker 1: And I can't really say Vlad, but I noticed Adam
Speaker 1: has moved more to urban culture. And it's find that
Speaker 1: funny because once he visited the gainst the chronicles, he
Speaker 1: went back to his shows trying to do gangster shit
Speaker 1: because he just was so like trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what it was. And I guess in his mind that's
Speaker 1: what it was that we was doing or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: because Alex Alonso to me, he kind of you know,
Speaker 1: Alex Alonzo on what's my other man's name? From over
Speaker 1: there from sixties from Princeshaw. Yeah, fact, huh, Jev Mac,
Speaker 1: keV Mac. I think keV Mac and Alex Alonzo are
Speaker 1: kind of like the inventors of the hood blog. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying of going straight to the hood
Speaker 1: and talking to different people from the hood. I think
Speaker 1: what Gangster Chronicles did. I think we kind of was
Speaker 1: the evolution of what they were doing, in which we
Speaker 1: had people actually sitting down having conversations with them. You
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying the podcast formatte you had a
Speaker 1: guy who was kind of like the sociality, just the
Speaker 1: police officer with loose, loose morol code. You feel I'm
Speaker 1: saying that the crooked officer with somebody.
Speaker 2: When we came up.
Speaker 4: When we came up with gangst the Chronicles, I always
Speaker 4: saw it as the criminal, the criminologists, and the person
Speaker 4: who saws the crime. So the premise was built on crime, right,
Speaker 4: and it made sense for that caz versus like I
Speaker 4: always tell you what you eight and let's say somebody
Speaker 4: else in gangst the rap, the conversation ship shift against
Speaker 4: the rap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4: But I do think there's a value that other people
Speaker 4: outside are they see the value in. But I'm telling
Speaker 4: you it's because we don't see value and inspiration. Like
Speaker 4: It's funny when I listen to people talk to me
Speaker 4: about street urban culture and they see it as degenerates
Speaker 4: like I think that's how like like like, uh, what's
Speaker 4: the man from a what was Samuel L.
Speaker 2: Jackson's character in Django.
Speaker 1: Jingo? What's what's his name, Stevens. That's how I feel like,
Speaker 1: But that's how I feel people look at like he
Speaker 1: would he would have been calling slaves, degenerates or lazy.
Speaker 4: So when I watch somebody like a black man in America,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, who trying to follow the
Speaker 4: laws and shit talk about people who trying to get ahead,
Speaker 4: like without caring about the laws, they call them degenerates.
Speaker 4: I'm like that always gives me like like house negro vibes,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I don't like that. Like,
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, I'm not encouraging brothers to go
Speaker 4: out and commit crimes.
Speaker 2: Like that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you I don't judge brothers who go out
Speaker 4: and commit crimes because I always I realize every law
Speaker 4: here has been made to keep us, you know, back.
Speaker 4: So it's like, how could you really be a pro
Speaker 4: black person in America and be like, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: follow the rules, Like if you was following the rules
Speaker 4: two hundred years ago, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 4: it ain't that different.
Speaker 1: I think it goes twofold little bro. I think it's
Speaker 1: like this. I definitely agree with you. I think every
Speaker 1: law pretty much written in this country has been written
Speaker 1: to impede the black man. I believe that people are intimidated.
Speaker 1: I think people are intimidated by us man for so
Speaker 1: many reasons. And I think it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: guilt guilt trip. You feel what I'm saying That people
Speaker 1: know that their answers don't did stuff wrong, and in
Speaker 1: most cases they've done stuff wrong. I never will forget
Speaker 1: one time. You know. I've always been an executive gee
Speaker 1: right boy, and this cat that I work with, man,
Speaker 1: you know, from one of the supplier houses. Man, I
Speaker 1: keep their names out of us so we don't get suited.
Speaker 1: Now with a supplier houses. He had called me about
Speaker 1: something that we had to do in Atlanta, right, and
Speaker 1: I said, okay. He called me back by asking, and
Speaker 1: I figured that because he kind of called me right back,
Speaker 1: or I said, you know what, maybe he forgot to
Speaker 1: tell me something. I hear him in the background going,
Speaker 1: you fucking nigger, you black b word you this and that,
Speaker 1: you shit color. He just had so many colorful ways
Speaker 1: to call somebody black dog. I was just kind of
Speaker 1: like shock. So, you know, you kind of sitting in
Speaker 1: the phone and you're listening to somebody, and so then
Speaker 1: I just hung up. Then he called me back, like
Speaker 1: I said, oh man, my bad. I was talking to
Speaker 1: one of my friends and we play around a certain
Speaker 1: kind of way, and I just laughed. I said, Man,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a racist man, you gotta be hard.
Speaker 1: I said, that's what I don't respect about y'all praised
Speaker 1: as motherfucker's in LA and the West Coast. Y'all would
Speaker 1: be prejudiced and the motherfucker but act like y'all like
Speaker 1: black people. The white people back home as prazied as
Speaker 1: they really praised us. They just said, fuck you. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you gird that, you black motherfucker. I can respect
Speaker 1: that a lot more.
Speaker 2: Don't know about all that I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: But think about it. G the people in Ohio to
Speaker 1: me aren't the threat. I would be more concerned about
Speaker 1: the motherfucker asking like he liked me, and that motherfucker's
Speaker 1: moving covertly. The motherfucker back to the crib. I know
Speaker 1: where they're staying Mmm, yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know where they see and they tell you.
Speaker 4: But before we get looser and start going, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like all over the place. Back to
Speaker 4: I digress to the point of like the inspiration has value,
Speaker 4: street urban culture itself has value. So I get why
Speaker 4: you know Gangster Chronicles has a value. I just think
Speaker 4: it'd be better if we like pushed it to SBTV.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know all that changing shit, man. I
Speaker 1: think I think it's going where it needs to go
Speaker 1: with the gangst the rap stuff. It's like I think
Speaker 1: when you overthink stuff, man, it becomes less spontaneous and
Speaker 1: it starts you don't think things belong to certain drawers,
Speaker 1: not really. I think that's how shit gets.
Speaker 2: Stayed your drawers and your T shirt and the same drug.
Speaker 1: I think that makes it interesting sometimes because everybody is
Speaker 1: putting they shit in certain drawers. Everybody has their life
Speaker 1: kind of categorize. But this should be here initially here
Speaker 1: when it should be like, just do whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: you want to whatever it's dope. I'm gonna tell you somethinghere.
Speaker 1: You know that most did you know that most hip?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you an interest in fact, most hip
Speaker 1: hop records that are hits out the key. You know that, right?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 4: But hip hop is hip hop is not correct, But
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. So if hip hop is not correct,
Speaker 4: I actually lived my life more with hip hop stock
Speaker 4: see g. You know, what's the person For a person
Speaker 4: to be so into the culture like you are and
Speaker 4: really a part of it, you really more like a
Speaker 4: school teacher or something. You probably live your life more
Speaker 4: like a school teacher. A person that does a lot
Speaker 4: of thinking, real deliver first, not necessarily. I used to
Speaker 4: think how you thought where it was just what's dope?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 4: Now I understand what brings the business to the business, right,
Speaker 4: It's like it's like it's like I get why In
Speaker 4: and Out does better business than all kinds of.
Speaker 2: Other restaurants, especially Hamburger Man.
Speaker 4: So even to say like a mediocre Hamburger as you
Speaker 4: referenced it, right, it is doing so well. It's because
Speaker 4: it's the consistency and quality and they're specialists.
Speaker 1: We're talking food. Not nobody can see they not you
Speaker 1: know what, In and Out is a very California specific thing,
Speaker 1: and they're in Dallas. They're not as big and Deablas
Speaker 1: as they are out here, they're not in Dallashit. Yeah
Speaker 1: they are, yeah there down there.
Speaker 2: Then they just started, but it's only a matter of time.
Speaker 2: So it's like.
Speaker 4: I was having this conversation with the same with Barbie
Speaker 4: and King and they were just they they keep trying
Speaker 4: to make Walmart, and I'm like, Walmart only works because
Speaker 4: it's dirt cheap.
Speaker 2: If Walmart was expensive, wouldn't work.
Speaker 4: Like when people spend money, when they invest energy and
Speaker 4: time and money into something, they really want a specialist,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I just think that
Speaker 4: I think that's why people do better outside of that
Speaker 4: grew up that grew up out of it, Like like
Speaker 4: we grew up inside of street urban culture, but people
Speaker 4: who grew up outside of it, like they know exactly
Speaker 4: what it is, so they've got to play that.
Speaker 1: You think about this, there are more people like that
Speaker 1: than there are, like people that understand what street coach reels.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Now you got a bunch of weird
Speaker 1: motherfuckers watching weird motherfuckers online all get their thing off
Speaker 1: what they think street urban coach reels. And it's crazy.
Speaker 4: But I don't think they even worried about what street
Speaker 4: urban culture is. I think the people that do know,
Speaker 4: they have the consistency of it. Like no Jumper like
Speaker 4: Flad like like those platforms.
Speaker 1: So you think, so you think jump street urban coach reels.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why they keep going to get guys from
Speaker 4: the street urban coaching.
Speaker 1: I don't think they know. I think they go get
Speaker 1: people that they do know that they pretty much know where.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's them though. I think it's pretty
Speaker 1: much the other people on there. It's like this, when
Speaker 1: you had the Homies A D and all them over there.
Speaker 1: It was the same shit. You know, you keep going
Speaker 1: to going to go get the same thing. They made
Speaker 1: it crack. But the thing is, you know what I
Speaker 1: will say, and I ain't gonna do that to Adam.
Speaker 1: Adam is very he's very in tune. Now. I will
Speaker 1: say this about that motherfucker. I really fucked with his
Speaker 1: show when he was doing the hip hop shit, the
Speaker 1: kind of because you know, I like that kind of
Speaker 1: I like some of that underground shit, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it's very interesting. So you know, I liked some
Speaker 1: of that early stuff, Like I liked when he had
Speaker 1: like when he was messing with like the the trippy red.
Speaker 4: I did Adam, I did Adam with you parking must
Speaker 4: died when he was at the bike shop. But he
Speaker 4: was also going to the artistic expression of street urban coaching.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 4: It's like soul food versus actually just using the seasoning itself.
Speaker 4: So now he's realized, like, I don't got to go
Speaker 4: through the artistic expression to get to the culture. Like
Speaker 4: I'll just go get shout out to Nami four Extras.
Speaker 4: I just go get somebody from the culture. I go
Speaker 4: get brick Baby from six to so, I go get
Speaker 4: for Extras from forty. I'm gonna go get the culture itself.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get Sharp Sharp as a pimp.
Speaker 1: But but all those people really from hip hop culture.
Speaker 1: It's like the four Extra dude is. He's a rapper,
Speaker 1: but he's more known for this other stuff. I heard
Speaker 1: his music and it was very mundane.
Speaker 4: His music wasn't good, but that's not so this is
Speaker 4: another I have you asking people what's good? You just
Speaker 4: call in and out right a regular mediocre burger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say, and I won't say four Extra
Speaker 1: is whack. He definitely has something there, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of mundane. It's something I've heard before. It's nothing unique
Speaker 1: about what he does.
Speaker 4: You missing the point of why it's going to be
Speaker 4: successful or why like Jello, Yes, because people don't buy,
Speaker 4: people don't just listen. He no more successful as an
Speaker 4: online character. Ain't nobody goes streaming that ship? I bet
Speaker 4: you that to you.
Speaker 1: Donna lost a couple of bets to me, trust me,
Speaker 1: I know he's there's nothing unique like when you think
Speaker 1: about these other individuals that are in street urban culture.
Speaker 4: You want one bet because you know somebody that was
Speaker 4: helping on a case. You ain't one through that.
Speaker 1: No, I'm telling you about this music because I know
Speaker 1: a little bit more about you. I've seen about you more.
Speaker 1: It's like, that's the thing about you trying to tell
Speaker 1: these images, Bro, that's not gonna work.
Speaker 2: It's worked every time for who?
Speaker 1: For who else? You think every rapper that successful really
Speaker 1: got talent and rap. Some of them got got good songs.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Cardi b got good records, cracking ass records.
Speaker 2: Had a bunch of people write records.
Speaker 1: It was an image, don't They was jamming records regardless
Speaker 1: who wrote.
Speaker 4: So you could take so you could take somebody from
Speaker 4: street urban culture like a stripper culture. Put her in
Speaker 4: with somebody that can write good record as long as
Speaker 4: she has a decent and I mean her ship is decent.
Speaker 4: She barely could wrap the words, like the words are
Speaker 4: too much for her mouth. And I can hear it,
Speaker 4: but the average person can't hear it. So all you
Speaker 4: got to do is take somebody from the street urban culture,
Speaker 4: like a stripper, develop her brand who.
Speaker 1: Lets you get off on Cardi like that Cardi do
Speaker 1: her ship.
Speaker 4: Though I'm not getting off on Cardi. I'm just saying
Speaker 4: Cardi is no different than for extras. She's weapon.
Speaker 2: No if.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I didn't like when she did Christ, But that's
Speaker 4: not what I'm talking about. That's that's not that's irrelevant.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you she's not somebody who's a career rapper.
Speaker 4: She's not a career writer. She's not this dope MC like.
Speaker 1: She she got some ship to her. She got off
Speaker 1: every time I'm talking, but she got some shit to her.
Speaker 4: That's not what I'm saying. Still, I'm not saying she
Speaker 4: don't have good records. I'm telling you somebody's writing great
Speaker 4: record for it. I'm telling you this is a perfect example.
Speaker 4: If you take somebody like four Extras who is developing
Speaker 4: his brand. People could register what the street urban culture
Speaker 4: brand is and you put them with problem and problems
Speaker 4: start to write some shit for him. It would be
Speaker 4: the biggest thing because this is not about music. It's
Speaker 4: about culture first music, So it would probably it might work.
Speaker 4: Then it might work then, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It might work then I'm telling you now as it is,
Speaker 4: and that's if he would let somebody develop him. You
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying, Like, I don't know if that's possible.
Speaker 4: Of course it is, man, Everybody can't be taught.
Speaker 1: Though. I'll tell you this about that's one album still
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you, yeah, she does. She's scared
Speaker 1: to put out something else. And that's a whole nother story.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you, like this, bro, the problem
Speaker 1: with some of these dudes is you know why I
Speaker 1: would never invest into one of these little young dudes
Speaker 1: some game culture. You'll lose your money. If I put
Speaker 1: fifty sixty Brad, we put fifty two, one hundred racks
Speaker 1: to one of these kids, we lose our Money's they
Speaker 1: either be in fucking dead or they gonna be in jail.
Speaker 1: This little motherfucker is stupid. Why are you gonna get
Speaker 1: a Snoop dog? Now? Snoop as sense dog. It was
Speaker 1: a way difference between him and the other dude, Snoop
Speaker 1: as sence life. But he also had an immense talent
Speaker 1: that got coopled with a dude that was able to
Speaker 1: really mold that talent. Snoop was the ship dog.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm telling you what happened to.
Speaker 1: Dogs, stupid stealer ship Snoop is.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 1: We always talk about these to these new people dog,
Speaker 1: and that's true. We can do that because it's all
Speaker 1: about youth, right. Snoop Doggy Dog is the greatest, probably
Speaker 1: the greatest rapper of all time, the most long standing career.
Speaker 1: I would say him in too short for the greatest
Speaker 1: sport is not as too short, it's not as much
Speaker 1: of an international friend. But these guys have amazing careers. Dog,
Speaker 1: They're staying at test of time. Snooper is in the
Speaker 1: men's talent. Snoop is a generational talent.
Speaker 4: I'm not disagreeing with that, but I keep telling you
Speaker 4: your confusion like I was saying earlier is that the
Speaker 4: general population can identify great talent, And I'm telling you
Speaker 4: they can.
Speaker 1: For the most part, they get it right. They do
Speaker 1: a good job of getting the right. No, they don't
Speaker 1: because these people that you mentioning, gee, they only go
Speaker 1: so far. Like look at this. If people didn't know
Speaker 1: what was happening, Kendrick wouldn't be sailing like he do.
Speaker 1: People recognize, Okay, he is very good. That's why he's
Speaker 1: That's why bro. I listened to the radio today when
Speaker 1: I was in the car. Out of ten songs that
Speaker 1: they may play every thirty minutes, six of them, motherfuckers
Speaker 1: are his.
Speaker 2: You ever know why that is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I think you're conflating different things and dodge
Speaker 4: situation again, it's a different situations.
Speaker 2: Let's rewind back.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you hip hop is street urban culture built
Speaker 4: on top of Black music. I'm telling you hip hop
Speaker 4: are really is not necessarily the greatest, most musical genre
Speaker 4: of music. It's very much a street urban cultural thing
Speaker 4: built on top of Black music. Like listening to G
Speaker 4: Thing shout out to Dre and Dogg. It's not quite
Speaker 4: listening to Leon Haywood. I want to do something freaky
Speaker 4: Like it's still a level of musicality that exists in
Speaker 4: Leon Haywood's original version of I Want to Do Something
Speaker 4: Freaky to You versus Doctor Dre and Dog's g Thing,
Speaker 4: But with dogs and Dre's g Thing even surpasses the musicality.
Speaker 4: Like you said, the music version or the talent of
Speaker 4: Leon Haywood is in street urban culture, which gives it
Speaker 4: this unique perspective that represents such a minute prop of
Speaker 4: the United States of America or even the world's population,
Speaker 4: and that type of styling of music with just a
Speaker 4: good amount, just a good amount of musicality creates the
Speaker 4: biggest records.
Speaker 2: Like and this is where me and you always.
Speaker 4: Disagree at do you feel like hip hop is about music?
Speaker 4: I realized for sure you're wrong. Now I listen to
Speaker 4: you your time, but I know you're wrong on this right.
Speaker 4: It is more about street urban culture built on top
Speaker 4: of black music. So you could have some of the
Speaker 4: fast musical people in the world, but they will not
Speaker 4: be able to pass and hip hop because hip hop
Speaker 4: first is about it.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Tyler the creator, like, like,
Speaker 1: where is he at? He's not a game band?
Speaker 2: What is game? See now? You're being ignorant, But I'm.
Speaker 1: Your whole life of street urban culture. You know, damn
Speaker 1: Will Street urban culture don't got nothing to do with
Speaker 1: thing is. He's more of a skateboard culture. That's more
Speaker 1: skateboard culture, bro.
Speaker 4: So that don't say Tyler because Tyler is a street skater.
Speaker 4: He's street urban coaching.
Speaker 1: That's that's he's a skater dog gun Will Smith very successful.
Speaker 1: Tell you he got punched in the face. Who Will Smith?
Speaker 1: When he was doing his thing. It's all kind of people.
Speaker 4: Give you a number that you keep acting like these
Speaker 4: people are not street urban culture, like there's some kind
Speaker 4: of musicians.
Speaker 2: None of these people.
Speaker 1: What you're saying is you're saying that the hard body
Speaker 1: gang bangers from South Central, if they get mobile, somebody
Speaker 1: gonn write them a rep. They gonna be up there.
Speaker 1: What they crippled in their rhymes.
Speaker 4: The world Never you're being intellectually lazy. I never said that.
Speaker 4: You're being ridiculous. No, I'm just telling you what you're saying.
Speaker 1: He play it back to you.
Speaker 2: Don't worry everybody listening. They gonna realize I didn't say.
Speaker 1: That that's what they can do. They gonna know exactly
Speaker 1: gonna say still, he was right. She was on some bs.
Speaker 4: I never said what you're saying. You and Charlomagne favorite
Speaker 4: go to is whenever I talk about street urban culture,
Speaker 4: you make it about gang banging.
Speaker 1: Because that's what it is about you. That's why you
Speaker 1: call it. Instead of calling your store Glass of Malone
Speaker 1: Store or the Glass of Malone Space, you had to
Speaker 1: call it the Crypt Store because you that.
Speaker 4: You because I realized hip hop is not about me.
Speaker 4: It's about us. I keep telling you. Hip hop is
Speaker 4: not the story of me. It's the story of we.
Speaker 2: And the we that I am a part of. It's
Speaker 2: crips in bloods of Los Angeles. So the Crypt Store
Speaker 2: is the WE store, even though I am the Crypt
Speaker 2: the lope, it's the WE store.
Speaker 1: Me. What's the kid out of New York's married to
Speaker 1: the umbrella? Is married to what's the chicken Umbrella? Is he? No?
Speaker 1: But what does gang banker have to do anything that
Speaker 1: you just said? You said the street urban culture, the crips. No,
Speaker 1: that's the part that I am. A sap is a
Speaker 1: part of the A set. Yeah, asap mobs and hip
Speaker 1: hop stuff, good boys and some good boys stuff.
Speaker 4: It's not good boys running around New York terrorizing people.
Speaker 2: He just got off a trial for shooting one of
Speaker 2: the members.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for self defense. He's a man. I didn't say
Speaker 1: he was a pussy. What do you think gaming is
Speaker 1: shooting somebody? Because it's just what Thursday?
Speaker 2: Just because I would shoot somebody.
Speaker 1: G if somebody acting like something a gang banging is different.
Speaker 2: Do you think people just to shoot each other?
Speaker 1: Colors?
Speaker 2: Random ship you're lying to have and I'm and men find.
Speaker 1: That you saying is random? No, But the thing is
Speaker 1: is like this. You have people who are gangsters, you
Speaker 1: have gang bangers, people who have no sense of just
Speaker 1: pressing people for nothing. What's up? Cuse? What's up? Blood?
Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with That's an ignorant person.
Speaker 4: It don't matter if that person was a police officer,
Speaker 4: a gang member, anything, He's still an ignorant. Motherfucking he's
Speaker 4: gonna be tripping that. Don't you act like gangs has
Speaker 4: something to do with it. They don't be like, hey,
Speaker 4: go around and just press people.
Speaker 1: Everybody else follow the rules. Everybody else tend to follow
Speaker 1: the rules of society.
Speaker 4: That don't make sense. We just said Tyler the creator
Speaker 4: is a street skater. They're gonna skate where they want to.
Speaker 4: That's one of the oldest, not the street skater. And
Speaker 4: now I said he was a skater, he'd probably be
Speaker 4: skating with guys in Santa Monica for all we know.
Speaker 4: So you think he skates where you're supposed to skate
Speaker 4: only at.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no skater does that. All skaters have a
Speaker 1: little All skaters have rebellion within them wherever they want to. Well,
Speaker 1: see you equating that the gangster stuff. See, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you that.
Speaker 2: Your you're a Quainton Street.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. The boy that got
Speaker 1: a big record. From what I understand, he turned the
Speaker 1: ball boy with that whoa whoa, I heard he turned
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 4: Sure is he street urban coaching. Sure his dad is
Speaker 4: LeVar Ball. That's like Chris, that's like your son, your
Speaker 4: son street urban culture. He didn't grow up in the ghetto,
Speaker 4: but you was daddy. Yeah, so he get it past.
Speaker 2: Then it's not a pass. But that's what raised some asshole.
Speaker 4: Probably he was probably raised with his daddy calling in
Speaker 4: my eyes, sohole, carly my nigga at seven, LeVar Ball
Speaker 4: when LiAngelo Ball came home at five years old, because somebody.
Speaker 2: Was hitting him, and he told Lvar.
Speaker 1: You know what LeVar told him, when you go back
Speaker 1: to school, hit that motherfucker.
Speaker 4: LaVar Ball did not tell that little boy. He did
Speaker 4: not tell Jello go find a principal and tell on him.
Speaker 4: He said, if somebody put their hands on you, you
Speaker 4: need to hit him back. That's the first hip hop lesson.
Speaker 4: That's the first street urban culture lesson that most of
Speaker 4: us learn. If that though, no, that's not some Pete's mother,
Speaker 4: Peat's mother told him go find the principal, and Pete's
Speaker 4: father told him, do not do anything. Don't put your
Speaker 4: hands on nobody. I don't want to get sued. I'm
Speaker 4: pretty sure. Guess what they're white people. It's black white
Speaker 4: suburban Yeah, it's some black suburban people too. I don't
Speaker 4: think will Smith told Willow go find the prince.
Speaker 1: I think will Smith definitely told somebody if they put
Speaker 1: their hands on him, the scrap back. I don't think
Speaker 1: will there.
Speaker 4: Was no pomp, but you it's not See see how
Speaker 4: you're conflating the two. It's not about being a punk.
Speaker 4: Street urban culture is not following the rules. It's not
Speaker 4: about punks or not punks. There's regular, everyday civilian people
Speaker 4: who follow the rules that are not punks. Street urban
Speaker 4: culture is when you don't follow the rules, like when
Speaker 4: you go to scoorl somebody put your hands on you.
Speaker 4: The rules are to go get a tense teacher or
Speaker 4: tell a principal. Right, that's the rules I.
Speaker 1: Was talking to put their hands on you. I remember
Speaker 1: I was running home one time and my mama was
Speaker 1: there talking on the phone. Do you remember how your
Speaker 1: mama used to have the phone call with the stretch
Speaker 1: way across the house. No matter where they was at,
Speaker 1: they could be in the backyard on the damn phone,
Speaker 1: the phone stretching out there. She was in the kitchen
Speaker 1: washing dishes, and I had to run past the window,
Speaker 1: and she saw me run up the things, saw some
Speaker 1: nigga down at the end with a full beer, and
Speaker 1: I tried to get in the door. She locked the
Speaker 1: door on me, put the lest She said, she said,
Speaker 1: what you running? She said, what's you running from that punk?
Speaker 1: For it? She said, you better go out there and
Speaker 1: whoop his ass. And guess what I did, you whooped it.
Speaker 1: I whooped out there and whooped his ass.
Speaker 2: Because Irene was raising somebody a street urban culture.
Speaker 1: She wasn't after now, she said, hold on, Betty, put
Speaker 1: the phone that's on. Wouldn't do this in the house
Speaker 1: and call the police, the proper authorities. So again, you
Speaker 1: keep trying to see this. Dude had to be about
Speaker 1: three or four years older than me. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: probably was too much.
Speaker 2: Is bigger?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he had a beard and shit though, that
Speaker 1: dude was Leon. Shout to Leon. He's probably in the
Speaker 1: prison right now. He was just destined to go on
Speaker 1: the wrong path. So all I'm saying to you still
Speaker 1: is all to you is street urban culture.
Speaker 4: Don't mean you're some kind of gang member, like a
Speaker 4: gang member is just an organized bunch of people.
Speaker 2: They're not even organized.
Speaker 4: It's a group of people that are together that break
Speaker 4: the rules, even like like a tightler like I tell you,
Speaker 4: even a tighter like a skater like from street urban culture.
Speaker 1: They go, they got friends they break the rules with.
Speaker 1: If you do something, if you yeah, if you do something,
Speaker 1: one of them our future.
Speaker 4: Do ask the little singer dude, what's the little singer dude?
Speaker 4: That's that's the game.
Speaker 1: He squabbled.
Speaker 2: Chris Brown.
Speaker 1: Beat Chris Brown.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he wanted to fight Chris Chriss
Speaker 4: squabb a little bit. But I'm saying he put up
Speaker 4: a squabble.
Speaker 1: It don't matter. He didn't go tell them, He didn't
Speaker 1: go obey the rules and go tell the police.
Speaker 2: He squabbled him down rules. When you don't upbraid the rules,
Speaker 2: you ain't no different than.
Speaker 1: A crypt Oh No, I want to find out why
Speaker 1: I'm to squabbing now. Did he touch Christopher Bluey ba
Speaker 1: axon or something.
Speaker 4: This ain't no gay, This ain't no gossip column. Still,
Speaker 4: this ain't TMZ, I ain't Harvey, ain't no.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't do gossip. That's not what we do
Speaker 2: on those sitting We don't gossip.
Speaker 1: That's not gossip. That's a real I don't care why
Speaker 1: they fought. They squabbled, that's all I cared about. They
Speaker 1: squabbled each other, they got cracking that shit. It don't
Speaker 1: matter what it was over. And I expect nothing less
Speaker 1: from Frank Ocean because he grew up in street every culture.
Speaker 1: Same thanks for Chris Brown. Chris Brown, it ain't about
Speaker 1: the powerby report. You grew up in street every culture,
Speaker 1: for sure. His mama told him, don't let nobody put
Speaker 1: their hands on you. That's the expectation gang gang member.
Speaker 2: That's not about gang still, it's Chris and non gang member.
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna tell you why the people you're trying
Speaker 1: to gag member the first time somebody put your hand
Speaker 1: on your son, what you tell them?
Speaker 2: Go tell the principals exactly.
Speaker 1: Hell, you better fight you, but not be letting nobody
Speaker 1: put their hands on you.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But not be letting nobody put their hands on you.
Speaker 1: He's a gang member. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What separate me and Chris.
Speaker 1: The fact that you at Krip What that means you
Speaker 1: are a criminals smooth standing in the gang, supposed stepping
Speaker 1: with still a villain smacking up all the holes.
Speaker 4: Anyway, I'm just saying, I know that you have this
Speaker 4: ridiculous expectations of gangsters or gang members or gang bangers.
Speaker 1: You know what, For me, I'm surprised I'm not a
Speaker 1: gang banger man, because I'm gonna tell you this, All
Speaker 1: my friends, every friend I have, with the exception of
Speaker 1: probably one or two, are from somewhere and not saying
Speaker 1: that the most prolific gang bangers, but they're from a
Speaker 1: gang and what.
Speaker 2: They're supposed to be because we all grew up in
Speaker 2: the coaching.
Speaker 1: They are from a gang. There the game that I'm
Speaker 1: just arounded by criminals.
Speaker 2: That's what happened. I just don't understand.
Speaker 4: And it goes back to the point that I'm saying
Speaker 4: Still it's like, I I just hate that when I
Speaker 4: say street urban culture, y'all automatically go to gang bangers.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's what you're talking about. Bro. You
Speaker 1: promote a lot of gang stuff. How I can't promote it.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 4: You have to say at the Crypt store because it's
Speaker 4: about we, it's not the ray kuin stores, the Woo
Speaker 4: Tang store.
Speaker 1: Well, wake Down probably got his own store though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it ain't popping like the Wu Tang store.
Speaker 1: Because it's a different I would probably agree.
Speaker 2: So how y'all will get mad because I understand the
Speaker 2: wire And this is what I read.
Speaker 1: Don said it's the movement the week, but he said
Speaker 1: it ain't no Big three, it's just big me. He
Speaker 1: single week and like Dang with the program, but his
Speaker 1: movement is PG Lang and power rules. See again the
Speaker 1: gang stuff for the pow room now big group of friends.
Speaker 1: Since he let people know that there was the prior
Speaker 1: program over there, he saw the game more records. That's
Speaker 1: because more people can be PI rules than they could
Speaker 1: just be one person. I want to be represented. Still,
Speaker 1: we get mad when we get a person in position
Speaker 1: that don't represent us. Imagine a black man going out
Speaker 1: just doing whatever you want to, like Kanye, you get mad.
Speaker 1: You want them to represent you. That's what makes hip
Speaker 1: hop special compared to other genres. It's let me heard
Speaker 1: this hip hop on the line, he teetered the line, Yes,
Speaker 1: he's about far away from me. Bro. I see the
Speaker 1: stuff that Kanye be doing. Man, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if he hip hop more so that is he's a
Speaker 1: narcissist or something like that.
Speaker 2: Hip hop people could be narcissists.
Speaker 1: He's a very narcissistic dude. Man. I love Kanye's music,
Speaker 1: you know, like Kanye is in Craig that's genius. But
Speaker 1: I think he's very narcissistic. I mean, you don't know him. Huh,
Speaker 1: you don't know. I know from what I see. From
Speaker 1: what I see he has a narcissistic viewpoint. Is how
Speaker 1: he's marketing himself.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. All you know is how he's marketing himself.
Speaker 4: It's like McDonald's one hundred percent beef patties because that's
Speaker 4: how they market himself.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this about Kanye West, man, Kanye
Speaker 1: West got some of the best music of this last century,
Speaker 1: the last hundred years.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that far, but I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Kanye got some call stuff that Beautiful Morning. It's okay,
Speaker 1: beautiful Morning, man, that's that song is dope. I like
Speaker 1: Ultralight being more than that on that album The Flashing Lights.
Speaker 1: That's hard. Oh man, I'm gonna tell you. Can't tell
Speaker 1: me that. It is probably one of the hardest hip
Speaker 1: hop songs of all time.
Speaker 2: It's his song. But I like what you know about
Speaker 2: that more and can't tell me nothing. Sign producer.
Speaker 1: I think everybody would disagree with you want that.
Speaker 2: I don't, man, Look y'all don't really have soul.
Speaker 1: I have soul. So see that's you. If somebody don't
Speaker 1: agree with you, everybody is wrong and you right. Yes,
Speaker 1: another narcissistic ways, your narcissistic crypt ways or God sent
Speaker 1: me to be yourherd. That's what your things should be.
Speaker 1: That's what your name should be. Glasses the n C
Speaker 1: and your like GM no more G No you know
Speaker 1: what n seed the Narcissistic.
Speaker 4: Crypt Narcissistic Podcast, Narcissist Narcissistic because I don't let you
Speaker 4: have ignorant ideas around me.
Speaker 1: You just want to have narcissistic view. I'm asking if
Speaker 1: you don't agree with him, you don't have no soul.
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm telling you you got mad as I said
Speaker 4: a difference, and you could have just left it there.
Speaker 2: You could have said, you know what, that's your song.
Speaker 2: You know what you did?
Speaker 4: You tell me the rest of y'all don't agree, Oh well,
Speaker 4: you know more people that don't mean y'all. Right, y'all
Speaker 4: really have ship taste. Y'all may make Donald's no more
Speaker 4: restaurant in the world.
Speaker 1: So you didn't like Father stretching, stretch my hands.
Speaker 2: I think it's cool. I'm not a big into that.
Speaker 1: That's a dope because you know you don't want to
Speaker 1: see you like the easy hip hop pep it ain't
Speaker 1: going fump, but the Crypt.
Speaker 4: Like being on that Old Lady and the Babies. I
Speaker 4: like Altright being on that album more. It's a song
Speaker 4: before that, and they got more soul. Old Lady and
Speaker 4: All the Babies with my three eighty frantish I'm burning
Speaker 4: with the dirty hand.
Speaker 1: That's what she was like like this.
Speaker 2: I like like being on that album. That's a song
Speaker 2: or two before that that has more soul.
Speaker 1: Did you like Niggas and Pears? Sure, it's my god,
Speaker 1: that's the hippo boy between it. Yep, shout out a
Speaker 1: little bro. Did you like Carnival? Uh? I like it?
Speaker 2: I like everything that Ty Dollar songes.
Speaker 1: How about Flashing Lights is another Genia song.
Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite Kanye songs. That was my
Speaker 4: favorite Kanye West album is Yay?
Speaker 1: Yeah Kanye. You know he got some good albums, man. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think though, I think, you know, with Genia is
Speaker 1: like him. I think Kenner Lamar is probably surpassed where
Speaker 1: he at now, though, would you think so?
Speaker 4: I mean, what's funny is before gn next, I had
Speaker 4: a hard time putting the homie on the same level
Speaker 4: as the guys I grew up to. I thought he
Speaker 4: was their version of their generation. I mean, their version
Speaker 4: of this generation. That's the Snoop and Cube of their generation, right,
Speaker 4: So I looked at it that way. Now I have
Speaker 4: to kind of after after this last twelve months, now
Speaker 4: he's slipped into my generation. He's like on the guys
Speaker 4: that I grew up enjoying. He's on their neck. He's
Speaker 4: on dogs neck, he's on cubes neck, he's on Dre's neck.
Speaker 4: He's on like the best of the best guys that
Speaker 4: I grew up listening to here on the ass.
Speaker 1: So then you know what, I you something dope hip
Speaker 1: hop breeds the other dope hip hop because every generation
Speaker 1: we have a dude that's like that dude, right, then
Speaker 1: it's somebody younger that comes and kind of does a
Speaker 1: little bit better than he did, you know, not necessarily
Speaker 1: smashing or whatever, but hip hop. I'm really excited now
Speaker 1: to see where hip hop is gonna go. Man, I
Speaker 1: think hip hop is gonna be just fine. I think
Speaker 1: hipp I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't think J Cole had stepped out of there.
Speaker 4: And when at what Niles and his predecessions are, he
Speaker 4: hasn't quite.
Speaker 2: Fantastic.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying he's more of a generation than he
Speaker 4: is becoming all time when like I haven't found the
Speaker 4: right reasons to make him pursue not like put him
Speaker 4: in the same category as Nas all his predecessors, the best,
Speaker 4: the best of his predecessors, so like he quite hasn't
Speaker 4: had this outcast moment, his his NAS moment. You know,
Speaker 4: those the big guys in his styling of music.
Speaker 1: You knew who I think you know who I think
Speaker 1: Dotty is right now. I think that is where I
Speaker 1: three three thousand was in the culture. But like just
Speaker 1: more don't even have a solo album, so we're not
Speaker 1: gonna do that. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: is more magnified. But that sounds a lot like him.
Speaker 2: You could tell there is no Andre at three thousand,
Speaker 2: there's only our casts.
Speaker 1: You sound ridiculous. One of the greatest raptors ever. No,
Speaker 1: he's part of one of the greatest group seven he
Speaker 1: doesn't have. So he's a great artist. He's a very
Speaker 1: lauded and critically, you know, critically acclaimed. They love him.
Speaker 2: No outcast is critically a claim. He doesn't happen any
Speaker 2: great rappers.
Speaker 1: They always mixed nine three three thousand. That's because they're ridiculous.
Speaker 1: He's not a solo rapper. They don't agree with you.
Speaker 1: They mixed him for a reason. He's very dope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they also ignorant. That's cool, they're just wrong.
Speaker 1: Who's wrong? So everybody. So all these great writers and
Speaker 1: bloggers just they just got it wrong. You got it right.
Speaker 2: I mean you would at least would imagine somebody needs
Speaker 2: to have a solo song to be in this conversation.
Speaker 1: He wanted to the man didn't want to rap no more.
Speaker 1: You know what I think happened to them?
Speaker 2: Why he never put a solo song before this?
Speaker 1: He did have a solo song. He did, Yes, he did. No,
Speaker 1: he has one solo song, Mom and dad, because they
Speaker 1: understand he had a whole album. That's not that's an
Speaker 1: outcast album. He had a whole album on an outcast album.
Speaker 1: But he had a whole one. But you miss me exactly.
Speaker 2: Listen, and.
Speaker 4: He doesn't even need to have an album. It's just
Speaker 4: a McDonald album. All you're doing is McDonald's to me.
Speaker 4: All you're doing is telling me McDonald's I don't care
Speaker 4: about what I'm telling you, and has went out of
Speaker 4: his way. You speak, let me speak without you catering
Speaker 4: to people's ignorance. Andre three thousand has went out his
Speaker 4: way to not be a solo artist, only for you
Speaker 4: to keep trying to.
Speaker 2: Make him a solo artist.
Speaker 4: I'm not doing it. Out Cast is one of the
Speaker 4: greatest critically acclaimed acts of all time. Andre three thousand
Speaker 4: has a flu album. I don't quite know the critique
Speaker 4: or that's his solo album. There's no rapping on it,
Speaker 4: not even one verse.
Speaker 1: And you know what, and his verses were so potent
Speaker 1: in the group that he's.
Speaker 2: Just one hat.
Speaker 4: His versus are just one half of a great song.
Speaker 4: Is one third of a great song. Big Boy is
Speaker 4: a great verse, and there's probably a great hook. I
Speaker 4: don't understand. Look, man, sometimes we don't have to do
Speaker 4: public opinion.
Speaker 1: I ain't doing public opinion. I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, three thousand might actually be the
Speaker 1: go prime Mindree three thousand was so artistically phenomenal Andre
Speaker 1: three thousand, it is. He's a He's a phenomenal artist.
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing going with Andre in that company. There's
Speaker 1: no Andre three thousand. That's only Outcast, Outcast, Andre three thousand,
Speaker 1: three thousand, it's one of the greatest raferences of all time. Gee,
Speaker 1: where you.
Speaker 2: Getting the greatest groups of all time?
Speaker 1: No, he is. You're trying not to get it to
Speaker 1: him because you probably never even listening to him. I've
Speaker 1: heard every Outcast album what's his verse on players ball
Speaker 1: stop as it's a verse on a great song. It's
Speaker 1: beginning to look a lot like ones follow my every.
Speaker 4: Doing one half of an outcast song for me, I
Speaker 4: know outcast album. I'm telling you there's no Andre three
Speaker 4: thousand albums, so to compare Kendrick, who has six or
Speaker 4: seven solo albums.
Speaker 1: Then the corner of my cadillact my heart does not
Speaker 1: gonna put the pat for no rat. I'm leaning back
Speaker 1: my elbows out the window because I can ENDU feels
Speaker 1: my body. Where's the party? Oh? That nigga was hard
Speaker 1: dog the way y'all disrespect, I hope big boys slap
Speaker 1: you on your face. Big boy is hard too, Like, no,
Speaker 1: don't do what you're doing herd y'all because y'all are
Speaker 1: y'all are the greatest disrespect to Big Boy ever in
Speaker 1: this great one. It's one of the greats of all time.
Speaker 1: They booth was great. They're a part of our make
Speaker 1: Big Boy look bad. There is no Andre. Andre is
Speaker 1: a flu Andre three Stacks is a flutist as a
Speaker 1: solo actor. Andre three Stacks as an older man, that's
Speaker 1: what he choose to do.
Speaker 4: No, he only asked one album as a solo album,
Speaker 4: and it's a flu album. He's a flutist.
Speaker 1: He's a rapper. He come back and rapp anytime he
Speaker 1: wants you. You don't hold on. This is what Genius
Speaker 1: says about him. Often regarded as one of the best
Speaker 1: rappers of all time. Atlantic George is Andre and Atlanta
Speaker 1: George is Andre and Loren Benjamin, better known by his
Speaker 1: stage name Andre three thousand. It's also a singer, songwriter,
Speaker 1: record producer, multi instrumentalist, and actor, best known for his
Speaker 1: work as one half of the hip hop dual Outcast
Speaker 1: along with his partner and Ryan big Boy allten. Regarded
Speaker 1: as one of the greatest rappers ever, Genius said.
Speaker 2: This, I don't understand why you're telling me what Genia.
Speaker 1: Said, because there's a million other people who agree with me.
Speaker 2: Y'all ignorant. There's a million people that think niggas just
Speaker 2: still all the time too.
Speaker 1: No, no, gee, he's a good rapper. Why you why
Speaker 1: you refuse that solo? He's not a solo act. Itbody
Speaker 1: comparing He didn't have.
Speaker 4: I got to have own, so on, hold on, you're
Speaker 4: comparing it to a solo act. I'm telling you he's
Speaker 4: part of one of he's probably part of the greatest
Speaker 4: rap group of all time. I'm telling you he didn't
Speaker 4: do any more heavy lifting than his partner or the
Speaker 4: production was very heavy lifting. So you said carry big boy.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't say that. You just what is he doing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you now that he got one of
Speaker 1: the best catalogs in hip hop brother solo.
Speaker 2: There is no solo, so it's only our cast, one
Speaker 2: of the greatest catalogs.
Speaker 1: And Grade three thousand, one of the greatest rappers ever.
Speaker 2: He's not. He's not a solo artist.
Speaker 1: It don't matter. He don't have to be. He don't
Speaker 1: have to be to be a great rapper. Talking about that,
Speaker 1: so you're saying, because you're saying records, record sales are
Speaker 1: quit quite greatness, what does record sells have to do anything. No,
Speaker 1: because you said that he was a solo artist. So
Speaker 1: you're saying will say that the niggas that don't sell
Speaker 1: records of white too.
Speaker 2: No, I'm telling you he's not a solo artist.
Speaker 1: He could be if he wanted to. I don't agree.
Speaker 1: I don't think he thought he could if he was.
Speaker 1: So if he was, he wasn't so selfish, So just
Speaker 1: not a meat person. See you a meat person? You
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna do the solo album. Mister, you're mad
Speaker 1: because I won't name my website after me, and I
Speaker 1: name it after us, and you mad about it. Name
Speaker 1: that cryptstory dot com criminal organization?
Speaker 2: So was not Turner? You mad at him too?
Speaker 1: No, what Matt Turner was rebel for a cause? You
Speaker 1: don't think that. I you don't think I rebel for
Speaker 1: a cause. I think the crypts Do you know for
Speaker 1: what it stands for? A Yeah, I don't think everybody
Speaker 1: out there cripping for necessary for justice? So then why
Speaker 1: are you telling me what everybody else doing? I don't
Speaker 1: think so. You might be one of them. You might
Speaker 1: be one in a million, one, one in twenty thousands
Speaker 1: in L A G. Maybe a couple tens of thousands.
Speaker 1: You don't think it's hundreds of thousands, no special special everybody. Oh, Charles,
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 2: Don't understand what what like?
Speaker 1: When did that?
Speaker 4: That's crazy? You just get on these things and just
Speaker 4: be entertaining. I thought you'd be really having a real conversation.
Speaker 1: You just be having a real conversation. Bro, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you what's on my mind. I think I am free
Speaker 1: and the other agree with me, so I can't be
Speaker 1: too far off. He is one of the greatest rappers
Speaker 1: of all time. A lot of things. People will agree
Speaker 1: with you on stef Yeah, they agree with me on this.
Speaker 1: But you can do a poll. You can do a pole.
Speaker 1: It's Andre is put up there in the polls Andre
Speaker 1: three thousand and top five rappers.
Speaker 4: You don't think there's something wrong with asking the general
Speaker 4: public something that they don't have information on.
Speaker 1: They do, they know what they're like to here, but
Speaker 1: they don't. They never heard and thousand. They never heard
Speaker 1: an Andred thousand songs before? Yes, they have there. What
Speaker 1: was the one he had? Use you all that man?
Speaker 1: That great? That's four rappers on the Yeah, he had
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