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I do all my pads on 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:09.200 Sunday evening because it's kind of like a slow day. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.039 Usually give me enough time to figure out how to 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.120 make a conversation interesting, not like cause you know, I 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:17.960 don't do it like other people. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:19.400 I don't cover weekly topics. 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:19.960 Do you know? 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:24.280 This is not like a daily show. So one thing 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.880 like going into season five and those seilings. I always 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.160 try to wrap the idea and something that's grander, I mean, 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:33.240 a bigger conversation to where if you heard it ten 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:37.160 years from now, the conversation still could be relevant. Like 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.240 I'm not knocking nobody who looks at this week's topics 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.119 and be like, oh, yeah, well I'm gonna talk about 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:44.160 this week. 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:46.000 It's like I try not to do that. 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.720 I try to. I try my best to make a 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.040 grander conversation. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.360 Ain't the wrong with that? At least you're doing something 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:55.000 the recently. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.720 Yeah, you know, and it don't necessarily get you the 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:07.040 instant weekly They don't get you the instant weekly impact 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:11.720 if I talked about somebody fighting today or something that 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:16.280 happened right today. But when you discover the podcast, if 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.160 you discover the podcast five months from now, the conversation 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.240 is still rich. Like people are hitting me every day 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.160 as they discover no ceilings from something we was talking 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.679 about in the third season. That's relevant right now. 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.760 Still what you. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.519 Do evergreen content, you don't have to worry about that. 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.000 I'm trying not to really cover weekly topics too, because 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.120 just make your podcast get old fast. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:46.080 I mean to me, like if I was gonna do 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.400 a weekly like a like a daily topic, I would 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:53.320 need to do it every day, like the view of something, Yeah, 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:54.720 Monday through Friday. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.760 Then I would cover weekly topics. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:02.240 But you know, if we given an eye like you know, 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.799 once a week, It's like I'm trying to make sure 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:08.040 the conversation is rich and wealth and wealthy and knowledge. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.440 I mean, some kind of perspective that's unique. 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.400 You know. Speaking of that, man, I had a dude 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.560 hit me up man from Detroit. Man, dude is just 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.640 now getting out the Feds. He was a part of that. 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.919 Like they had like a multimillion dollar credit card ring 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:28.280 going at Walmart. 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.359 Do you remember that. No, I don't know about that. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.840 They was going to go get you know, using the 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.400 cars to buy gift cards at Walmart. They bought like 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:40.120 a couple like maybe like five or six million dollars 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:44.040 worth of gift cards or whatever. Yeah, we gonna have 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:45.680 him on the show. Man. I want to you know, 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.200 like talking to people like that is just interesting, man. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.080 Just a criminal mind is so interesting. Bro. We got 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.920 some real genius people in the community. Bro, And which 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.400 community in the black community? Like you know, some of 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.840 these schemes these dudes be pulling off the pretty incredible 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.800 they don't, you know, don't little bit of stuff. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.480 I try not to say the Black community because it's 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.360 such a unique thing. I always try to say Black 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:12.120 America because black community is so disingenuous in thought. 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:13.520 But yeah, I mean. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.560 It is some It's it's some people that be thinking 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.960 of definitely how to pull some stuff off. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:20.800 You know what I'm saying. 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.839 They don't play when it comes to pulling something off, 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.600 you know what I mean. So I respect all of that. 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.240 Yeah, managers now, bro, but. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.200 Do you wonder like still because it is Gangster Chronicles, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.280 Like I think that fits gangst the Chronicles, but it 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.720 don't fit the evolution against the rap chronicles. 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.280 Well, you know what, I think we always got a 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.160 place to kind of like us. I think that's where 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.000 the show started at it was throwing those type of people. Sure, 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.120 I think it's cool to bringing in especially you know 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:47.880 when they reach out to Ukon because they want to 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.800 come on the show, you know, and I think that's good. 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.960 When I kind of like that, I think it's just 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.359 I think I think people make music about stuff like this. 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.640 People make music about scamming out, and I think that's 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.839 where that's where I kind of been envisioning, like kind 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.480 of taking the show is this is getting arcuse. You know, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.520 this is our seventh season, so it's like I think about, like, 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.880 way can I do it that nobody else is doing. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.000 I think that's cool to mix like the worlds of 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.160 gangster rap with the actual people. That's like kind of 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.120 like the muse for the gangster rappers. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.640 Sure, the culture itself. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.880 Yeah, the culture yourself. Like this dude was a scammering 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.680 and they called They said, what was the name of 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.880 the mom? Where were they names? Let me bread this 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:29.400 for you right here. Your family was good. I'm from Detroit. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.320 A few years ago I was making my name on 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.279 the music scene managing artists. I had got picked up 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.599 by the Fairs and received the six year Since I'm 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.080 out now, no snitching. You can look my name with 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.640 Rodney gets five six nine two one dash of three nine. 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.680 But I have an interacing story and me and my 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.320 crew were part of a multi million dollar card ring. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.080 Just google Rodney gets Walmart Detroit. We the reason they 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.880 changed the system with Walmart and the AT and T stores. 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.159 I feel I got something new to share because the 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.680 average story being told is the violence, drug kingpon story, 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.000 except no fraud, big story that's never been told yet. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:07.320 Check us out. And I thought, da this little they 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.080 had a little name for their crew, Dog, and they 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:13.280 was they've like influenced rap groups in Detroit and everything else. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.960 And he manages some some dudes now in Detroit and 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.360 the Flint that's kind of popping, like Rio to young Og. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:21.799 Yeah. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.160 And what's the other dude's name on the real assigned 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:30.159 to peasing, Yeah, yeah, he may manage them and stuff. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.039 So I thought it was you know, we got a 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.359 really big following in Detroit and Chicago. Man, it's crazy, 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.200 like two of the most outside of LA, like our 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:41.440 three biggest markets of our fourth biggest markets are all 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:47.040 cities is known for their gangsterism. Houston, Detroit, Chicago and LA. 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.680 That's why I laugh. No, That's that's why I laugh. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.479 When people talk to me about they talk about some 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.920 rapper as They'll be like, oh, this rapper did something 0:06:57.960 --> 0:06:59.960 for the culture, and I'm like, what did a rap 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.960 orde for the culture? Like all rappers do is benefit 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.640 from the culture. They don't do anything specifically for the culture. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.760 But again, that's where that word kind of gets confused 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.200 when or like community, because the words themselves been watered 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:19.160 down so crazy, like like the culture is the lifestyle itself. 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:23.400 It's not the artistic expression which is the rapper. It's 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:27.360 actually what's happening when it comes to how people are living. 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.640 So like somebody will tell me something like, oh, you 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.240 know this artist has been great for the culture, I'm like, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.080 how are they great for the culture? 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:36.120 You know what I mean? 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:41.400 And I appreciate that. I think that's where people like 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:46.440 Adam twenty two DJ Vlad, people outside of the culture 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:50.440 dog they see it in its true form, so they 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.680 know exactly who to talk to. While people that were 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.200 brought up with it and in it their whole life 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.520 we kind of trying to Like I had a really 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.400 interesting conversation with my homegirl Barbie today and King and 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:08.120 they were just telling me how they felt. They were 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.880 telling me how they felt about like you could see 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.720 they're trying to move away from the culture. They like glasses. Man, 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.400 I don't know what we are supposed to do with 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.000 the Crypt store, right, It's like, oh, you know, we 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:23.600 need to make the Malone store. And I'm like, it's 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.680 funny because people inside of the culture are trying to 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.760 move out of the culture, like they feel like they 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.800 have access to mainstream America. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:38.040 Hold on, I. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.920 Just love like in the middle of class podcast, I 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.680 can get up and say hold on. We usually just 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:52.679 keep y' all there waiting, crazy, right. I don't know. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.000 I think I do kind of agree with I think 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.679 I do kind of I was just telling the people, 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.240 see I think I do. I think we all do 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:01.880 that as we get older, we try to move away 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.680 from the culture. Because it's like I always tell you 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.880 about the Crypt because all I think about now is 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.800 how if something never happened where you know, you did 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:11.640 get him some Like let's say we got in some 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.840 shit one day, they would probably try to bring your 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.960 crip affiliation up and try to throw you some serious 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.320 time at you. I looked at some cat today they 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.160 gave some time too. They was talking about he was 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:26.000 a terrorist. Man. I mean, it's definitely gonna be misunderstood 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.520 on a mainstream level for sure. But that's kind of 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.760 the risk you run, you know, being a voice and 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:37.560 a representation of lifestyle for people in these predicaments. So 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.559 you know it comes with it's risk too, you know 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.840 what I'm saying. But I think that's the confusion, right. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.080 You take somebody like Vlad or Adam or Flock or 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:53.160 people that didn't grow up necessarily baptized in street urban culture. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:10:01.520 They I don't know if they water it down as 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:06.319 much as they Okay, so there's the people who give. Well, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:10.840 first off, this is no ceilings. Welcome to the fifth season. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.200 Thank y'all for getting us to this point. I got 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.400 my big brother, Steve Peter's on vacation. We was behind, 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.120 so we made sure we still got it in to 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.720 have fresh episodes. I didn't want to put up a 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.800 stream for the lunch hour. You know, there are some 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.160 great conversations. I still wanted you to have, you know, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.720 new places to examine and thought, you know what I'm saying, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:32.280 So here we are. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.319 I think there's part do that. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.560 You know what I don't know, because I'll give no 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.800 ceilings in the lunch our credit shout out to the 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:41.839 lunch Table, but like. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:44.240 Oh yeah, but you know the people, the people on 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.360 a lunch hour that already heard that conversation, they could 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.640 look forward to no ceilings to hear something fresh and new. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.679 You feel what I'm saying. It's like me with gangst 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.960 the chronicles. I never put up I try not to 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.200 ever put up like used material. You feel what I'm saying. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.760 It's like because it's not good. I think we've been 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.240 around too long and our audio audience is way too 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.040 big for us just to be kind of bullshiting with 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:07.600 people like that. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.160 You know, you know it's funny. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:14.360 I really feel like I should put fresh material up 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:18.679 on Tuesday, right, and then give them the three episodes 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.720 because there's a group of people who never heard the 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:26.680 Lunch Table on YouTube, on digital soapbox, on the stream. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.320 So I notice all of these conversations are so rich 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:34.000 and I mean intellectually they are so special. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:35.440 You feel me. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:39.280 So it's like, but back to the point Adams last flock, Oh, 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.320 different people they see the value in street urban culture, 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.559 not hip hop, where it's the artistic expression of street 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:51.080 urban culture or the elemental expression, but the actual culture itself, 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.199 you know, not the round place Master Jay in his essence, 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.960 and they see the value in it. Meanwhile, we're running 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.200 away from street urban culture. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.160 I'm gonna tell you what all these dudes do, and 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.080 they got successful programs supporting y'all call me a hater. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.160 I'm far from hater. I maud with them dudes do. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.640 They do a very good job of what they do. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.840 And I can't really say Vlad, but I noticed Adam 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.120 has moved more to urban culture. And it's find that 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.800 funny because once he visited the gainst the chronicles, he 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.680 went back to his shows trying to do gangster shit 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.520 because he just was so like trying to figure out 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.280 what it was. And I guess in his mind that's 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.240 what it was that we was doing or whatever, you know, 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:36.080 because Alex Alonso to me, he kind of you know, 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.040 Alex Alonzo on what's my other man's name? From over 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:44.080 there from sixties from Princeshaw. Yeah, fact, huh, Jev Mac, 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.000 keV Mac. I think keV Mac and Alex Alonzo are 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.360 kind of like the inventors of the hood blog. You 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.440 feel what I'm saying of going straight to the hood 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.719 and talking to different people from the hood. I think 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.200 what Gangster Chronicles did. I think we kind of was 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.240 the evolution of what they were doing, in which we 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.319 had people actually sitting down having conversations with them. You 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.480 feel what I'm saying the podcast formatte you had a 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.679 guy who was kind of like the sociality, just the 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.959 police officer with loose, loose morol code. You feel I'm 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.280 saying that the crooked officer with somebody. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:15.720 When we came up. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.600 When we came up with gangst the Chronicles, I always 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:24.680 saw it as the criminal, the criminologists, and the person 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:29.000 who saws the crime. So the premise was built on crime, right, 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.760 and it made sense for that caz versus like I 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.959 always tell you what you eight and let's say somebody 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.360 else in gangst the rap, the conversation ship shift against 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:39.680 the rap. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.440 Yeah, but you know what, hold on, hold on. 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:49.400 But I do think there's a value that other people 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.400 outside are they see the value in. But I'm telling 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.800 you it's because we don't see value and inspiration. Like 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.760 It's funny when I listen to people talk to me 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.240 about street urban culture and they see it as degenerates 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:06.480 like I think that's how like like like, uh, what's 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.800 the man from a what was Samuel L. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.599 Jackson's character in Django. 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:19.960 Jingo? What's what's his name, Stevens. That's how I feel like, 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.680 But that's how I feel people look at like he 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.800 would he would have been calling slaves, degenerates or lazy. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.760 So when I watch somebody like a black man in America, 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.280 you know what I mean, who trying to follow the 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.880 laws and shit talk about people who trying to get ahead, 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.880 like without caring about the laws, they call them degenerates. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:44.480 I'm like that always gives me like like house negro vibes, 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.280 you know what I'm saying, Like I don't like that. Like, 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.480 don't get me wrong, I'm not encouraging brothers to go 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:50.800 out and commit crimes. 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.120 Like that's not what I'm saying. 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.280 I'm telling you I don't judge brothers who go out 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:59.560 and commit crimes because I always I realize every law 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:03.880 here has been made to keep us, you know, back. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.160 So it's like, how could you really be a pro 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:10.160 black person in America and be like, well, I'm gonna 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.920 follow the rules, Like if you was following the rules 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.400 two hundred years ago, you know what I mean, Like, 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:16.760 it ain't that different. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.160 I think it goes twofold little bro. I think it's 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.800 like this. I definitely agree with you. I think every 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.120 law pretty much written in this country has been written 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.680 to impede the black man. I believe that people are intimidated. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.600 I think people are intimidated by us man for so 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.760 many reasons. And I think it's kind of like a 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.000 guilt guilt trip. You feel what I'm saying That people 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.280 know that their answers don't did stuff wrong, and in 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.000 most cases they've done stuff wrong. I never will forget 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:49.960 one time. You know. I've always been an executive gee 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.360 right boy, and this cat that I work with, man, 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.640 you know, from one of the supplier houses. Man, I 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.520 keep their names out of us so we don't get suited. 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.760 Now with a supplier houses. He had called me about 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.880 something that we had to do in Atlanta, right, and 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.640 I said, okay. He called me back by asking, and 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.400 I figured that because he kind of called me right back, 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.200 or I said, you know what, maybe he forgot to 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.000 tell me something. I hear him in the background going, 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.720 you fucking nigger, you black b word you this and that, 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.480 you shit color. He just had so many colorful ways 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.200 to call somebody black dog. I was just kind of 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.360 like shock. So, you know, you kind of sitting in 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:30.040 the phone and you're listening to somebody, and so then 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:31.880 I just hung up. Then he called me back, like 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.360 I said, oh man, my bad. I was talking to 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.920 one of my friends and we play around a certain 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.680 kind of way, and I just laughed. I said, Man, 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.800 if you're gonna be a racist man, you gotta be hard. 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.920 I said, that's what I don't respect about y'all praised 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.560 as motherfucker's in LA and the West Coast. Y'all would 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.680 be prejudiced and the motherfucker but act like y'all like 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.400 black people. The white people back home as prazied as 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.160 they really praised us. They just said, fuck you. I'm 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.600 glad you gird that, you black motherfucker. I can respect 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:58.240 that a lot more. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.080 Don't know about all that I'm just saying. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.040 But think about it. G the people in Ohio to 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:08.440 me aren't the threat. I would be more concerned about 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:12.160 the motherfucker asking like he liked me, and that motherfucker's 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.199 moving covertly. The motherfucker back to the crib. I know 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:19.920 where they're staying Mmm, yeah, you see what I'm saying. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:21.560 I know where they see and they tell you. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.280 But before we get looser and start going, you know 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.399 what I mean, like all over the place. Back to 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.280 I digress to the point of like the inspiration has value, 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:37.720 street urban culture itself has value. So I get why 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.280 you know Gangster Chronicles has a value. I just think 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.439 it'd be better if we like pushed it to SBTV. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.520 Man, I don't know all that changing shit, man. I 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.719 think I think it's going where it needs to go 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.680 with the gangst the rap stuff. It's like I think 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:58.480 when you overthink stuff, man, it becomes less spontaneous and 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:03.720 it starts you don't think things belong to certain drawers, 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.000 not really. I think that's how shit gets. 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.600 Stayed your drawers and your T shirt and the same drug. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.200 I think that makes it interesting sometimes because everybody is 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.880 putting they shit in certain drawers. Everybody has their life 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:16.639 kind of categorize. But this should be here initially here 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.880 when it should be like, just do whatever the fuck 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.560 you want to whatever it's dope. I'm gonna tell you somethinghere. 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:24.880 You know that most did you know that most hip? 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.160 Let me tell you an interest in fact, most hip 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.960 hop records that are hits out the key. You know that, right? 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:32.560 Sure? 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.560 But hip hop is hip hop is not correct, But 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.880 that's what I'm saying. So if hip hop is not correct, 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.359 I actually lived my life more with hip hop stock 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.959 see g. You know, what's the person For a person 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.520 to be so into the culture like you are and 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.840 really a part of it, you really more like a 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:49.760 school teacher or something. You probably live your life more 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.760 like a school teacher. A person that does a lot 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:56.080 of thinking, real deliver first, not necessarily. I used to 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.040 think how you thought where it was just what's dope? 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:00.359 Is? 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:04.200 Now I understand what brings the business to the business, right, 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:09.159 It's like it's like it's like I get why In 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.879 and Out does better business than all kinds of. 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:17.520 Other restaurants, especially Hamburger Man. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.760 So even to say like a mediocre Hamburger as you 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.840 referenced it, right, it is doing so well. It's because 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:28.199 it's the consistency and quality and they're specialists. 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:32.159 We're talking food. Not nobody can see they not you 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.520 know what, In and Out is a very California specific thing, 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.639 and they're in Dallas. They're not as big and Deablas 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:41.040 as they are out here, they're not in Dallashit. Yeah 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:42.360 they are, yeah there down there. 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.680 Then they just started, but it's only a matter of time. 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:46.360 So it's like. 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.399 I was having this conversation with the same with Barbie 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.919 and King and they were just they they keep trying 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.840 to make Walmart, and I'm like, Walmart only works because 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:57.600 it's dirt cheap. 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.520 If Walmart was expensive, wouldn't work. 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:07.199 Like when people spend money, when they invest energy and 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:10.320 time and money into something, they really want a specialist, 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:12.399 you know what I'm saying. So I just think that 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.639 I think that's why people do better outside of that 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:19.560 grew up that grew up out of it, Like like 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.959 we grew up inside of street urban culture, but people 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.400 who grew up outside of it, like they know exactly 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.760 what it is, so they've got to play that. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.360 You think about this, there are more people like that 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.520 than there are, like people that understand what street coach reels. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.520