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Speaker 1: Welcome to Between the Horns, brought to you by your

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Speaker 1: Southern California Toyota dealers. I'm Kirsten Watson, and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by some really amazing guests.

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Speaker 2: And also i feel like the usuals of the show.

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Speaker 2: I'm filling in for the day.

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Speaker 3: But I'm amazing.

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Speaker 2: You are amazing very much. I thanks to Super and.

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Speaker 1: A RAMS analyst to Marco Farr and then RAMS senior

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Speaker 1: staff writer Stu Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Guys, all amazing. We are coming off.

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Speaker 1: Look, we had the bye week, then it was a

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Speaker 1: Week eleven, a huge win to just set the tone

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Speaker 1: for the back half of this season against the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot on our schedule.

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Speaker 1: Today, we're going to get into just the latest on

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cups status heading into Week twelve. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about ad and the defense that was lights out in

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Speaker 1: week eleven, the Rams getting back Kyrien Williams hopefully this

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Speaker 1: weekend in Arizona. He's gonna be a huge impact. And

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Speaker 1: then we're going to be thankful for this season because

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Speaker 1: coming up is Thanksgiving, so the holidays. Officially, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of crazy to think that we're actually here. But let's

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Speaker 1: now go back first to this past weekend at SOFI Stadium,

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Speaker 1: a fourth quarter comeback Matthew Stafford, it seemed like, you know,

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Speaker 1: he took a big hit from the Seahawks defense.

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Speaker 2: I think it kind of sucked the life out of everyone.

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Speaker 1: We were all in there extremely nervous for him to

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Speaker 1: come back out just showing. Look, we know he's QB one,

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Speaker 1: we know who he is. He wants this team to win,

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Speaker 1: and for him to come back and lead that fourth

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Speaker 1: quarter drive when you kind of look back on those plays,

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Speaker 1: where were you staying from him?

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Speaker 4: Sucked all the win out of us. So how do

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Speaker 4: you think he felt? Literally, that was a heck of

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Speaker 4: the shot. It was a little flea flicker deal and

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Speaker 4: the timing got thrown off because of Bobby Wagner and

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Speaker 4: somebody got free and he stepped into it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he is an absolute stud at a quarterback. He is

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Speaker 4: a competitor. He's a guy that's not afraid to take

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Speaker 4: a shot like that to make a play.

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Speaker 3: Now, it was picked, but I'll give him credit.

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Speaker 4: Man, that shot should have put him out and he

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Speaker 4: rolled over, got up, went to the sideline, stitched himself together,

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Speaker 4: and came right back out. So yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 4: was asking players about him before the game, tell me

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Speaker 4: something about Matthew Stafford, and to a man, they all said, look,

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Speaker 4: he is just a throwback. He is an old school quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He's able to play through some stuff and he'll teach

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Speaker 4: young guys this is what it means to be tough

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Speaker 4: in the National Football League. So that's the inspiring stuff.

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Speaker 4: So that was pre game. Then you see him take

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Speaker 4: a hit like that and come back and win, Oh

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Speaker 4: my god, just just awesome, awesome.

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Speaker 5: Ossmussim I thought it was really telling too, when you know,

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Speaker 5: talking to players in the locker room, Pooka, especially Rams

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Speaker 5: wide receiver pooking a quote he said that kind of

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Speaker 5: caused them to maybe, you know, tighten their cleats a

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Speaker 5: little bit and buckle in a little bit more because

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Speaker 5: they're like, you know, we obviously can't be having that

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Speaker 5: as far as you know, our quarterback getting hit like that,

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Speaker 5: and so it galvanized the offense in a way. And

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Speaker 5: you know, Ram said coach Sean Veay kind of joke

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Speaker 5: that maybe they need to punch Stafford in the gut

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Speaker 5: before every game to get suggest that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I understand, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah exactly. But it was you know what. However, way

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Speaker 5: you look at it, I mean it just like is

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Speaker 5: like McVey said, you know, just added to his legacy

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Speaker 5: and reputation. And I actually went back and assuming my

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Speaker 5: math is still correct, he after he took that hit,

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Speaker 5: he was seven four eleven for one hundred and eleven

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Speaker 5: of his one hundred and ninety passing yards.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, absolutely crazy finished.

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Speaker 5: I think twenty I want to say it was twenty

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Speaker 5: after that was actually better than when it was before

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Speaker 5: the hit, which is kind of wid I see.

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Speaker 3: I wish I could explain it.

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Speaker 4: Man, Seeing your quarterback gets splattered like that and then

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Speaker 4: get up, it gets you a lift. It gives you

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Speaker 4: a lift as a team. Now imagine what happened with

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Speaker 4: Seattle when their quarterback goes down and you put the

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Speaker 4: backup in you get deflated.

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Speaker 3: So it's just awesome.

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Speaker 4: But after that game, I still feel like we walked

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Speaker 4: away like we robbed a bank. I still can't fit

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Speaker 4: like we won. The Rams won that game. Yeah, it

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Speaker 4: was unbelievable. Wow, you got the w that was awesome,

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Speaker 4: But like we always say, winning great deodorant covers up

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Speaker 4: a lot of stink.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean also when you think about that,

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Speaker 1: when it kind of felt like they needed that in

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Speaker 1: that moment. You're fresh off of the Buyo, you have

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Speaker 1: guys who are healthy making the way back. There's still

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Speaker 1: spots to be taken in the NFC playoff picture. So

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like, how important was this win not

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Speaker 1: only to really set the tone of this back half

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Speaker 1: of the season. You're about to be like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's about to be Thanksgiving. When you look at December football,

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Speaker 1: that's the most important time to get those wins. So

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Speaker 1: when you can set the tone, Now, how important was

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Speaker 1: that win for.

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Speaker 4: This mathematically very important sweeping Seattle ultra important, but just

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Speaker 4: coming back from green Bay going into the buy that

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Speaker 4: was kind of I don't want to say depressing. I

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Speaker 4: don't want to make light of depressing, but that's it's

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Speaker 4: bad when you lose in the National Football League. You

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Speaker 4: got to carry it for a week. Now carry it

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Speaker 4: for two weeks. So to get that victory, to go

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Speaker 4: into that locker room and you heard it you guys

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Speaker 4: heard that locker room.

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Speaker 3: It was upbeat. That was life. That will give you

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Speaker 3: life for the next week.

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Speaker 4: So I thought it was super important and huge for

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Speaker 5: I would echo to Marco's point two about that sweet

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Speaker 5: being especially important. Who knows what happens the remainder of

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Speaker 5: the season, But if you have that as a tiebreaker

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Speaker 5: and a leg up over the Seahawks, and you know

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Speaker 5: it gets to, you know, a really critical juncture, maybe

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Speaker 5: with a wild card berth on the line, you know,

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Speaker 5: that's something that you've got in your back pocket in

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Speaker 5: your favor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Now the Seahawks are a game back behind the

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Speaker 2: Let's have it on just.

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Speaker 1: The defense, the defensive performance we saw against the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: because they they created the momentum in that game. What

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Speaker 1: kind of impact did they just have and how impressive

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Speaker 4: Rohie Morris and his staff has got them going. They're

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Speaker 4: a bunch of youngsters at a bunch of new spots

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Speaker 4: and he's got them playing like gangbusters. There's like eight

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Speaker 4: or nine plays I wanted to send to stew because

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Speaker 4: I don't have your contact, but.

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Speaker 3: Sue in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 4: Seriously, just watching these guys get off blocks, like guys

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Speaker 4: like Jonah Williams who went from slug to thug. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he is an absolute problem now in the middle, Like

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Speaker 4: you have to account for him, not just a guy

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Speaker 4: that's filling in the spot. Bobby Brown coming back proving

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Speaker 4: he was trying to prove he was the guy before

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Speaker 4: he got hurt, right, and then Kobe Turner coming in

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Speaker 4: and saying, look, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I'm that guy. All these guys are making plays.

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Speaker 4: They're playing hard, they're constricting holes, they're getting off blocks,

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Speaker 4: they're making plays this defense. Dare I say couldn't be

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Speaker 4: playing better? You could always play better. But as far

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Speaker 4: they're absolutely doing that in Gangbusters.

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Speaker 5: I like how you mentioned the playmakers right there, because

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Speaker 5: one thing that I wanted to bring up was the

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Speaker 5: play of Darien Kendrick, especially, you know, for somebody who

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Speaker 5: had a role change and you know, was on the

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Speaker 5: a starting role because Kobe Durant didn't play to come

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Speaker 5: up with that huge interception that you know, helped set

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Speaker 5: up what ended up being the game winning field goal.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we got to give props to him

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Speaker 5: for being ready or I guess staying ready so that

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Speaker 5: take advantage. And it ended up being his first career

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Speaker 5: interception too, which is also kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: Nice pick. You put him into tension in Green Bay. Yeah, really,

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Speaker 3: I'm serious.

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Speaker 4: It's like, really like you could see him on the

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Speaker 4: sideline like, man, I want to play, so so the

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Speaker 4: and boom he did it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've continued to see some of our younger guys

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Speaker 1: step up. I think that was a perfect example. But

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Speaker 1: even with the rookies, we've seen a lot from Pukaakua

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Speaker 1: this year. He's been having a i mean, lights out

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Speaker 1: rookie season. But when you have a situation where the

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Speaker 1: Rams are without Cooper Cup for the first four weeks

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Speaker 1: due to a hamstring injury, he's dealing with a lower

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Speaker 1: ankle injury at the moment he came out. He came

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Speaker 1: out in the second quarter, was out for the entire

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Speaker 1: second half of the game. How are you continuing to

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Speaker 1: see just these younger players step up and really kind

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Speaker 4: You know, Pooka is we I guess they knew in

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Speaker 4: training camp when they said they're not going to play

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Speaker 4: They had a plan for him, right, So it was

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Speaker 4: kind of like Christmas. You have to wait till the

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Speaker 4: regular season to open that box and see what he

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Speaker 4: can do. But he's so big, he's so physical, he

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Speaker 4: wants it. I love the aw shucks attitude. Ah shucks,

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm hooka, ah shucks, all that stuff. But

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Speaker 4: when he gets on the field, man, he turns into

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Speaker 4: an absolute asta there and I absolutely love it when

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Speaker 4: he catches those short passes, you know, five or twelve

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Speaker 4: yards out and then he turns north and south. You

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Speaker 4: coming up in there, really, because if he lines you up,

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Speaker 4: he can drop you. Really, if you don't hit him right,

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Speaker 4: you can hurt yourself. So I mean he is an

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Speaker 4: absolute threat to to out. Well the same thing. I'm

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Speaker 4: glad that I never want, you know, Cooper cup to

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Speaker 4: get hurt never or miss time. But I'm glad it

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Speaker 4: happened when it did because they got the work with

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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford and they got to develop that trust. So

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Speaker 4: you can see that in games, especially when Cooper goes out.

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Speaker 5: I personally loved the progress that Byron Young's made it

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Speaker 5: outside linebacker. I mean, you talk about having to make

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Speaker 5: quick decisions. You see that speed off the edge. You're

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Speaker 5: probably you know, picking things up a little bit and

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Speaker 5: throwing that ball a little bit faster than you want

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Speaker 5: to if you're a quarterback. So he's been tremendous from

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Speaker 5: a pass rush standpoint, and someone who I think has

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Speaker 4: He's starting to get it man. I mean he's got speed.

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Speaker 4: He's got other worldly speed. Right Who out there can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I gotta find one for you guys.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's got five and a half sacks so far

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Speaker 4: Ah, funny crazy, I think I would want Byron to

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Speaker 3: Now, Aaron's gonna get Aaron's gonna get his, He's gotta

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, he turned into a hockey enforcer.

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Speaker 4: What do hockey enforcers do when your team is like flat?

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Speaker 4: They go out and beat somebody up. So Aaron goes

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what happens random to come

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Speaker 3: He said, Byron, no, you said, Aaron, I said, Byron.

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Speaker 3: Scaronic can't be hurt.

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Speaker 4: He just eats russy, Neil Sam Hell, yeah, you know

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Speaker 4: it's funny, right Kyron coming back, can't wait? Happy, so happy.

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Speaker 4: Royce Freeman just came off what seventeen for seventy three,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's the same group you're playing against with

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Speaker 1: What have you liked just from what we've seen from

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Speaker 4: You know, well, we were going off, well I was.

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Speaker 3: That surprised me. And he's scrappy around the goal line.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think you want to be smart about it.

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Speaker 1: It's now week twelve, which sometimes it's kind of crazy

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Speaker 4: I think it's super important. You could have you have

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Speaker 4: It's about keeping that momentum going. When you get that win,

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Speaker 4: Do your best to contain him. I mean it's hard.

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Speaker 3: Let Aaron do. Let Aaron do what Aaron does.

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Speaker 1: How many times do you think people are going to

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Speaker 1: confuse Kyler and kyn every week?

438
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Speaker 3: Did I just do that?

439
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Speaker 5: You know what? Wow?

440
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Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I've been thinking about this all day.

441
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't take Hi and just say Kyler and

442
00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,560
Speaker 1: like going back and forth, and I'm like, wow, I

443
00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:11,959
Speaker 1: love that one.

444
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Speaker 4: Well, I can't I can't say what I really want

445
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Speaker 4: to call Kyler, but anyway, go ahead.

446
00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,520
Speaker 5: It's fine, go ahead too with the quarterback like Kyler. Obviously,

447
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,399
Speaker 5: the thing that comes to mind is being sticky in

448
00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,359
Speaker 5: coverage or knowing those sticky coverage rules, right, somebody who

449
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,720
Speaker 5: can escape the pocket, you know, obviously with the launch

450
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Speaker 5: point that he can have on some of his throws

451
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Speaker 5: when he does try to make those off platform, off

452
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,960
Speaker 5: schedule throws. Uh, you got to be on your p's

453
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Speaker 5: and keys if you're a defensive back and so h

454
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Speaker 5: that to me is one of the biggest keys when

455
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Speaker 5: it comes to trying to limit him in addition to

456
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Speaker 5: you know, trying to you know, keep containing on the

457
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Speaker 5: edges as much as he reconably can.

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Speaker 3: And Hollywood Brown is a problem.

459
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Speaker 4: He's a guy that's uncoverable with a great quarterback, I

460
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Speaker 4: think he'd be in the Pro Bowl. And John Connor, man,

461
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Speaker 4: they're just built different, not a pit another big strong

462
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Speaker 4: I can't figure out this guy is shifty or people

463
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,440
Speaker 4: are just diving out of his way when he runs

464
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Speaker 4: the football because they don't want to hit him. I mean,

465
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 4: he is just a big, muscular dude. So that's your

466
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Speaker 4: first and foremost. You need to stop him first and

467
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 4: then get after Kyler Murray because if not, John Connor

468
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 4: will just run you over and control the football game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

470
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Speaker 3: Yeah, now you got me thinking about it.

471
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Speaker 5: Yeah, every thing I was gonna say too, is you

472
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Speaker 5: know with both of those guys being back, I mean, yeah,

473
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 5: this is a little bit different team than I think

474
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Speaker 5: with the Rams song week six. It's purely based on

475
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Speaker 5: both of them being available, but just the fact that

476
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Speaker 5: at least the last couple of games that I've watched

477
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Speaker 5: with Kyler being back there and also James Kinder, like,

478
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Speaker 5: they've been a very competitive team Like the last two

479
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Speaker 5: teams they faced, like they have not been an easy

480
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Speaker 5: out for the Texans or I believe it's the Falcons.

481
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Speaker 5: So they're they're gonna they're gonna be a pretty competitive

482
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Speaker 5: and compelling matchup this weekend despite what you know their

483
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Speaker 5: record shows.

484
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's look, it's going to be a matgeup

485
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Speaker 1: that's going to be coming after We've got some Thanksgiving

486
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Speaker 1: games this week. We've got a a lot of pie

487
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,640
Speaker 1: will be consumed, and so all the Rams are they're

488
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Speaker 1: going to be stuff. They're gonna be ready to watch

489
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Speaker 1: this matchup. So with Thanksgiving being a couple of days

490
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Speaker 1: away around the corner, literally, what are you guys most

491
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Speaker 1: thankful for? When it comes to it could be this

492
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Speaker 1: season with the Rams, it could just be the RAMS

493
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Speaker 1: as a whole. What are you most thankful for?

494
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Speaker 3: Wow? What are you most thankful for?

495
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Speaker 5: I'm thinking a productive rookie class.

496
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Speaker 3: I like that draft.

497
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's not to say previous classes haven't been

498
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Speaker 5: and that's not a knock against them, just to be

499
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Speaker 5: very very clear, but I mean, especially when you know,

500
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Speaker 5: I think it was like right before the start of

501
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Speaker 5: the regular season or in training camp, you know, Sean

502
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Speaker 5: McVay identified at least four of those guys right off

503
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Speaker 5: the bat as being immediate contributors, whether that be starter

504
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Speaker 5: or like core rotation player. You know, I think if

505
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Speaker 5: you went down the list, you know a lot of

506
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Speaker 5: those guys have met or even exceeded expectations in some cases.

507
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Speaker 5: And so you know, as we all know, in years past,

508
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Speaker 5: it's been more of a redsher year approach, if you will,

509
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Speaker 5: as far as you know, the rookies that have been

510
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Speaker 5: drafted for the most part, you know, waiting their time.

511
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Speaker 5: You know, maybe it's taken an injury for somebody to

512
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Speaker 5: you know, get in the mix. But this year they've

513
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Speaker 5: they've thrown a lot of those guys right in in

514
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Speaker 5: some cases into starting roles, and they've handled it pretty well.

515
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Speaker 5: So that's my pick man.

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Speaker 4: Health along the offensive line, Yeah, I think that's been

517
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Speaker 4: the biggest difference. I was gonna say both guards Dotson

518
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Speaker 4: and Avila, but that's part of the rookie class, even

519
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Speaker 4: with Poka Nakua and Byron Young and all the guys.

520
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Speaker 4: We just talked about all the young guys making contributions.

521
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Speaker 4: If Steven Avila and Kevin Dotson aren't playing like they're playing,

522
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Speaker 4: you don't have much. You don't even have a quarterback.

523
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Speaker 4: I mean, you're just getting mowed down. You don't have

524
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Speaker 4: a chance to run the football, you don't have a

525
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Speaker 4: chance to throw it. So and most of that has

526
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Speaker 4: been just because of the health of the offensive line,

527
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Speaker 4: a Lark Jackson in particular, and then Rob Hanstein working

528
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Speaker 4: himself back into the lineup.

529
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Speaker 3: Joe Noteboom.

530
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Speaker 4: We said, you have six starters for five spots, and

531
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Speaker 4: that's how it's been. So the health along the offensive line,

532
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Speaker 4: I think has been huge for this football team and

533
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Speaker 4: it's made a different So I'm thankful for that.

534
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm thankful for what the bye week

535
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Speaker 1: just because it allowed everyone to get healthy. It gave

536
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Speaker 1: a moment for people to get back on track. It

537
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Speaker 1: was an I think it kind of came at the

538
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: perfect time for the Rams to give them a reset

539
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: before now going into this back half of the season.

540
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Speaker 1: Now they've picked up the win against Seattle, hopefully they're

541
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Speaker 1: going to pick up the win in Arizona and then

542
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Speaker 1: they'll go from there. But it allowed them to get

543
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Speaker 1: back into the wind column, to get things back on track,

544
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Speaker 1: to kind of shift gears, I think, just internally for

545
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: everyone and kind of create the good vibes knowing that, like, okay,

546
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Speaker 1: there is still an opportunity for them to pull off

547
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Speaker 1: a wild card spot if they can find out, as

548
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Speaker 1: you guys mentioned earlier, find a way tonight they've already

549
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: swept the Seahawks, find a way now to sweep the Cardinals.

550
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Speaker 2: That puts them in good standing.

551
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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, it does seem like the fory nine ers

552
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: might take the division, but look, things can change.

553
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 2: There's still a lot of time.

554
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Speaker 1: Also, the forty nine ers, I believe they have quite

555
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 1: a challenging back half schedule there for the season. So

556
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Speaker 1: it just puts everyone, I think, in a really good

557
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: spot now moving forward. So hopefully they'll continue and I'm

558
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: going to pick up some wins here and be in

559
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: a good spot to close out this regular season. But

560
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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of you know, it's those moments

561
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Speaker 1: just allowing you to reset, and you know with young

562
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Speaker 1: players and you guys, you said you were thankful for

563
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: the rookies, you know, to have that break in the season,

564
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Speaker 1: just to kind of reset mentally and understand, like, look,

565
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: you're now at the big league level. This is not

566
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: in college anymore. Things look very different right now. So

567
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: just giving them a moment to kind of be like, one,

568
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: look at what the impact I've had on this club

569
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Speaker 1: this year, and now I can kind of take a

570
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Speaker 1: minute and take a step back and reset for now,

571
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Speaker 1: this the most important time of the seasons.

572
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 4: Oh my god, some of these rookies. Yeah plus preseason? Right,

573
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 4: what nine games plus preseason? So the most you've ever played.

574
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Speaker 4: Guess what, You've got ten more.

575
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

576
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Speaker 1: Sometimes you've got to be thankful for the little thing

577
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: for me is a bye week.

578
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Speaker 3: The people that work around the team. Yeah, yeah, we've

579
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 3: got a long way to go.

580
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah done, yet we got a lot more and there's

581
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: still more football to be played, and like there's something

582
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: to be playing for. You know you want to find

583
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Speaker 1: a way in to get that wild card spot, and

584
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Speaker 1: so the time is now. I just feel like, hey,

585
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna be thanble for something.

586
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Speaker 3: Amen heard that? Yes, my man? Yeah exactly, and saying Kyler.

587
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: All right, now, with Week twelve a couple of days

588
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: away facing the Cardinals, I know we kind of hit

589
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: on some of the keys to victory, but let's kind

590
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: of go back to and really dial in on what

591
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: has got to be the focus for the Rams to

592
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: get the win over the Cardinals.

593
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Speaker 2: Will start with you, Stu.

594
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Speaker 5: I'll go back to containing Kyler again. I mean again.

595
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 5: He can make plays off schedule, make plays with his legs.

596
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 5: Just gotta gotta find a way to limit his impact.

597
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 5: And if you can do that, your chances of success

598
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 5: on Sunday will obviously increase dramatically.

599
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 4: I'm going off the reservation, man, I'm gonna let's let's

600
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 4: let's do something we haven't done all year. Now, all

601
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: that stuff's important. Corralling Kyler, see you put it in

602
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: my head now, absolutely forget running the football altra important,

603
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 4: But how about let's score on defense. Yeah, there's nothing

604
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 4: against you, there's no rule saying you can you can't

605
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 4: score on defense. Let's pick one off the scoop one.

606
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: Let's score on defense. And how about this, let's block

607
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 4: a kick. You had one blocked and Dallas turned everything around.

608
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 4: That was the craziest five minutes in Dallas, right, That

609
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: just flipped the whole game upside down. Why not do

610
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 4: it to them, take it to them, block a kick.

611
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: There's no rule against it. I'm sure you're ready for one. So, yeah,

612
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: let's score on defense, and let's let's let's make something

613
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 4: big happen on special teams.

614
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Speaker 3: I think that's a big key.

615
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine's going to be Let's do that early in

616
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Speaker 1: the game. Let's get it going in the first half,

617
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Speaker 1: really set the tone early and allow that to kind

618
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Speaker 1: of just control the rest of it, because I think,

619
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Speaker 1: especially when you kind of look at what these last

620
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: couple games have looked like, it's been the second half

621
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Speaker 1: that's been the key, and I think if they can

622
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Speaker 1: just kind of adjust that to now being in the

623
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Speaker 1: first half, really setting the tone early the game, I

624
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: think that can be kind of all the difference and

625
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: get on the border really and hopefully come out with

626
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: a win, and we'll go from there. As ready for Yeah.

627
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: Two in a row and all the streak.

628
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: A wind streak, and so we're looking for that, looking

629
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Speaker 1: for watch out, ky, We're coming for a wind.

630
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: Streak, all right, y'all.

631
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Speaker 1: Well, it has been absolute pleasure to hang out with

632
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Speaker 1: you guys today. Happy Thanksgiving, hayksvat what's your favorite Thanksgiving food?

633
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Speaker 5: More?

634
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Speaker 2: Okay? Like, how about you, Stu? What you're looking forward to?

635
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 5: Yes? Yeah, there is no Thanksgiving dish that I will

636
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Speaker 5: turn down.

637
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Stu DeMarco, thanks for hanging out with me,

638
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: and to all of our RAMS fans, thank you for

639
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: tuning into between the Horns, brought to you by your

640
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: Southern California Toyota dealers. Happy holidays, Happy Thanksgiving from all

641
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Speaker 1: of us, and we will catch you next week

642
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 5: Then in government job job jub George grub jubtub job

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Speaker 5: jubjub