1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome back to Post Run High. A few 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: weeks ago, I got to go on a run and 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: sit down afterwards with Bonnie Barzakowski. She is the CEO 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: of Girl Scouts of the USA, and I was so 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: excited for this one because Girl Scouts was a big 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: part of my childhood. I grew up in Glenark, New Jersey, 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: which is one of those tiny towns where everybody knows everybody, 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: and I went to a Catholic grammar school with the 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: same forty kids from kindergarten through eighth grade, and for 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: a large chunk of those grammar school years, all of 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: the girls in my grade were part of Girl Scouts 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: and my mom was actually one of our volunteer troop leaders, 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: which made it even more special for me because I 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: got to see my mom become a role model not 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: just for me, but for the other girls around me 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: and guys, we could do a whole episode on my 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: mom or with my mom, but just to give you 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of context, my mom worked for a 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: nonprofit called Healing the Children for most of my life, 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: and she also coached lacrosse in town, and she actually 21 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: coached the high school girls lacrosse team when I was 22 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: growing up, not when I was in high school, but 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: when I was little. So acts of service, especially for 24 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: young women, have always been something that she cared deeply 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: about and that I grew up around. And I think 26 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: that's what made Girl Scouts feel so important to me. 27 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: It was another space where I saw women leading, giving back, 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: creating community. And I'm guessing, if you guys are listening 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: to this, maybe you had something like that too. Maybe 30 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: it was Girl Scouts, maybe it was a sports team, 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: or a youth group or a club, or even just 32 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: a group of strong women in your life who modeled 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: those values. Whatever it looked like, I think we can 34 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: all remember how formative those kind of environments can be 35 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: and how it really teaches you values that stay with 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: you for your whole life. So when I got the 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to sit down with Bonnie, who started as a 38 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: volunteer troop leader like my mom and now leads the 39 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: entire national organization, it really felt full circle. Bonnie and 40 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: I talked about mentorship, confidence, and the importance of showing 41 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: up for the next generation. It's a short conversation today, 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: but I really hope it reminds you of the people 43 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: who helped shape you and maybe even inspires you to 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: be that person for somebody else. So here is my 45 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: conversation with Bonnie. I hope you guys love it. Let's 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: get into it. What is up? Welcome back to a 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: post run high. I'm here with Bonnie today. Bonnie is 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: the CEO of Girl Scouts. We just got back from 49 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: a one and a half ish mile run. How are 50 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: you feeling awesome? Yeah, Bonnie's a runner. You were a 51 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: pro out there. Everybody always gets nervous with their breath control, 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: like when they're on the run, but you were completely fine. 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: I'm used to running and talking at the same time. 54 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: So I found out during the run that Bonnie's a 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: twin and you and your twin sister love to run together. 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: So I'm sure those are really good, like YAP sessions, 57 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, where you get good at kind of talking 58 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: and running. 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: We text each other during the week and ago, I 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: hope we have a twenty miler this weekend because we 61 00:02:58,840 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: have a lot to catch up on. 62 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it is so cute. I also said 63 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: to Bonnie while we were running that I am a 64 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: twin as well, as you guys know. I have a 65 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: twin brother, so I feel like I attract twins, like 66 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of twins on the show. What 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: was it like growing up with an identical twin sister? 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: I always say it's a blessing to get your best 69 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: friend born with you. So it's been awesome. Yeah, we're 70 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: so identical though. Even my grandkids will be like, are 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: you my grandma? 72 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: And she loves it. 73 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: Are you guys the youngest in your family? 74 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: No, we have a sister that's eleven months older, and 75 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: then my twin sister and me, and then we had 76 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 3: two brothers. 77 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: So y'ad a big old family. And you're from Saint Louis. 78 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: What was it like growing up in Saint Louis? 79 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: It was awesome growing up? 80 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 81 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we lived in Saint Louis most of our lives. 82 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: My husband and I have been married thirty seven years. 83 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: So we lived in DC and in Charlotte, but we've 84 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: been back in Saint Louis Charlotte. 85 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: North Carolina years. We're big fans of North Carolina. Here 86 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: any thoughts for you that came up on our run. 87 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: You know, just hearing you say that your mom was 88 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: your troop leader, Like, I like just ended up with 89 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: a million questions because I think it's just so neat 90 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: for you go back and now ask your mom some 91 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: of those things, because the women who have given and 92 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: men have given so much to help girls have Girl 93 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: Scouting experience. So to me, I was I found myself 94 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: thinking about that. 95 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: When I found out that I was having you on 96 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: the show. I was so excited because Girl Scouts was 97 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: such a big part of my life and also my 98 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: family's life when I was a young girl. And I 99 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: think Girl Scouts is such an incredible organization. 100 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: And I guarantee girls that were in your troops still 101 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: talk about, oh, your mom and the impact that she 102 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: had on their lives. 103 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, they absolutely do. And a lot of respect for 104 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: the Girl Scout troop leaders out there, because you know. 105 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: I'm forever grateful. Yeah, yeah, folks like your mom. 106 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: Right, So let's talk about you though, and like how 107 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: you ended up getting into the Girl Scouts organization. 108 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 3: And yeah, So I was running fitness centers for women, 109 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: which I loved. It was changing young women and women 110 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: of all ages their lives. And I was asked to 111 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: come on the local Girl Scout board and was so 112 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: interesting because they said to me, you know, we'd love 113 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: for you to join our board. You're passionate about women 114 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: and girls, and I'm like, I don't know anything about 115 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: Girl Scouts and I didn't I wasn't a Girl Scout myself. 116 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: And so they're like, you're exactly what we need do 117 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: We want people who know everything, and we want people 118 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: who really don't know anything. And so I joined the 119 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 3: board in twenty ten and hook line and Sinker, I've 120 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: been all in ever since. I just found myself constantly saying, 121 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: how did I not know that Girl Scouting did all 122 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: of this for girls across the country and around the world. 123 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: People that don't know explain to us what girl Scouts is, 124 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: how early you can get involved, and kind of the 125 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: importance of Girl Scouts for young women and young girls. 126 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: So the piece that I tell people all the time, 127 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 3: there is no other organization that provides girls the variety 128 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: of experience that girl Scouting provides. So as young as 129 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: kindergarten girls can come in and think of the badges 130 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: that you earned when you were in Girl Scouts and 131 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: think of the variety that existed. So I often find 132 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: our older girls, whether they decide that they're going to 133 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 3: go into biomedical engineering, or they're going to go into coding, 134 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: or they're going to go into law. So many girls 135 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: tie back what they choose to do in life from 136 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: an experience they had in Girl Scouting, And I often 137 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: think that means without Girl Scouting, would they ever have 138 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: even known that existed. So the variety that we provide 139 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: so often when I say to folks that I'm with 140 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: Girl Scouts, they'll be like, Oh, I love Girl Scouts 141 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 3: the cookies, and the cookies are so much more than cookies. 142 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: They're the largest girl let entrepreneurship program in the world. 143 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: So to your point, the skills that you learn through 144 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: all of that, there's so much more cookies, crafts camp. 145 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: We've done that for one hundred and thirteen years. We 146 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: still do that, and we do so much more. 147 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: How can you get your daughters involved in Girl Scouts? 148 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: Like where are the organizations? Like are they at every 149 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: school or is that something you guys are like working towards. 150 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they can go onto girl Scouts dot Org 151 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: and actually plug in zip code and it'll show them 152 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: like the closest Girl Scouting for them. And I'm going 153 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: to answer the second party your question, which is that 154 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: what we are trying to do is get girl Scouting. 155 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: There's twenty five million girls kindergarten through twelfth grade in 156 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: the United States, and I want every girl to know 157 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 3: that they have the opportunity to be in Girl Scouting. 158 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: And so for caregivers, I'm like, please help us make 159 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: that possible, because the number one thing that stands in 160 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: the way is we need volunteers. We need people who 161 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: will do what your mom did back when you were young. 162 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: We need that today, right. 163 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: And it was amazing finding out also while we were 164 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: running that you started out post college as a teacher. 165 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: I do think thinking back to first grade, that's why 166 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: I love people get used to me saying a little 167 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: girl doesn't get to be five twice and so girl 168 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: Scouting starts at five in kindergartens. So yes, having been 169 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: a first grade teacher, I see the power of what 170 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: all happens in those young minds at that age. So 171 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: for me, girls can join Girl Scouts at any point 172 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: kindergarten through twelfth grade. But I so want our young 173 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: kindergarteners and first graders to get started in girl Scouting 174 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: because they don't ever get to go back and rewind 175 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: that time in their life. 176 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: Again, No, it's so true. I mean I have so 177 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: many friends that I wouldn't have made if it weren't 178 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 1: for Girl Scouts and like, you know, my mom being involved, 179 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: and like as you said, like there are so many 180 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: girls that like credit that time to her and just 181 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: it really is like a fundamental period in people's lives. 182 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: What made you want to you know, work for nonprofits 183 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: and get into this line of work. 184 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: Actually I tie that back. 185 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: I mean I would say back in high school, I 186 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: remember a young girl that I went to school with. 187 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: Her dad made to comment at one time, and it 188 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: was it's a phrase I've always loved, and it's aspire, 189 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: don't envy. And so when you think of the things 190 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: you want in life, how do you aspire? And that's 191 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: what we do to help young people, help them aspire, 192 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: help them see what they can do. And so for me, 193 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: that's that kind of piece of service is I've always said, 194 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: moments in time. How do you create moments in time 195 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: for people today that others created for you? So, in 196 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: answer to your question, a lot of people created moments 197 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: in time for me. I look back from young young, 198 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: elementary school, middle school, high school, you know, outside of 199 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: my family, the people that created moments in time that 200 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: now when I look back, changed my life forever. And 201 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: sometimes it could be a simple encounter taking just a 202 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: few moments. And that's what I find happens through girl scouting, 203 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: is that people take that moment in time that can 204 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: change a child's life forever. 205 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: Is there a moment in time in your life that 206 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: you kind of look back on and you know, maybe 207 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: as a story that you're comfortable sharing that you can 208 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: kind of pinpoint that ethos too. 209 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so so many, so that another day, another time. 210 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: But the one that I will always say I share 211 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: with young girls is when I got out of high school. 212 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: My mom never went into high school, so she only 213 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: went through eighth grade, and when I was sixteen, she 214 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: went back and got her ged and so watching her 215 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: and my father, I realized I didn't have to go 216 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: on to you know, to college or to anything like 217 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: I could get a job. But it was my high 218 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: school counselor that was just like, you know, there's so 219 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: much out there, you know, and really encouraged me. So 220 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: I started college and I was one semester in and 221 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: decided that I wasn't going to continue and It was 222 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: a woman who I actually was doing student service hours for. 223 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: She worked in the counseling office, and she said, you 224 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: have five minutes. I'd never really talked to her, and 225 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: I said sure, and she goes a little bird, tell 226 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: me you're not going to come back in January, and 227 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I've just decided this isn't for me. 228 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: And maybe someday she's like, do me a favor. Come 229 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: back for one more semester. If come May this isn't 230 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: for you, you'll always know you gave it a full year. 231 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: And I don't think you'll ever have any regrets. But 232 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: if you don't come back in January, I fear you'll 233 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: look back and always wonder that woman gave me five 234 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: minutes of her time. I never really saw her again 235 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 3: on campus. I came back in January. The rest was history. 236 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: And I think about those five minutes. If she hadn't 237 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: taken it, how different my life would have been, And 238 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: so my level of gratitude. I've tried to find her 239 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: to be able to thank her. But so yeah, there's 240 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: so many of those moments in time. That's one that 241 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 3: I know changed my life forever, and for. 242 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: Our girl scouts. 243 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: Now, I say to them, whether they decide that they 244 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,359 Speaker 3: want to go to a trade school or into the military, 245 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: or into a college or university, so many options. But 246 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: whatever they choose, get in and it's stay in it 247 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: long enough to be able to actually go. 248 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: I gave it that, and then change if it's not 249 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: what you need. 250 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: I don't want people to be miserable, but I'm always like, 251 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: give it that she asked me to do. If I didn't, 252 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: may it wasn't for me. She's right, I could have 253 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 3: gone on and done something different. 254 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: When you were in that mindset as a young girl, like, 255 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: what were you thinking you were going to go on 256 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: and do? 257 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think watching that my parents were great parents. 258 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: And my father worked on an assembly line putting light 259 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 3: bulbs together, and my mom worked at a grocery store. 260 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: And I looked at them and they had a happy life, 261 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: and we were a happy family. I figured I'd get 262 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: a job and do something, and there's nothing wrong with that. 263 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 3: I think for me, that's what I actually thought I 264 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: would do. I would get a job, I'd find somebody, 265 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 3: I'd get married, I'd have my own family, and all 266 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: that could have been great. But I absolutely love how 267 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 3: my life has turned out, which is why I always 268 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: reflect back on that moment. 269 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: No, and it's amazing, And you've become such a leader 270 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: obviously for so many, especially as a CEO of you know, 271 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: an organization like Girls Scott. So I'm curious, like, what 272 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: does leadership mean to you? And how do you guys 273 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: define leadership. 274 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: I love that question because I often think people think 275 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 3: leader thinks it is a CEO, it's a president, it's 276 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: a leader in our own lives. So what I love 277 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: to tell our girl Scouts is I want to help 278 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: you have the skills to thrive in your life, leading 279 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: in your homes, in your community, in your workplace, wherever 280 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: you choose to work. If I'm a teacher, I'm leading 281 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 3: in the classroom. If I'm a parent, I'm leading in 282 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: my home. So to me, it's about having those skills 283 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: to help you and your family thrive and your community 284 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: as a whole. 285 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: Really quickly, I just wanted to say thank you so 286 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: much for listening. Your support means the world to me. 287 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: And if you're enjoying this episode with Bonnie, make sure 288 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: you follow the show so you never miss a conversation. 289 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: All right, back to the episode, from your perspective, what 290 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: do you think makes a good leader? 291 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and almost sixty years old, I'll tell you I've 292 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 3: learned a lot, So I probab would have answered that 293 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: question different even a decade ago. For me, it's truly 294 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 3: recognizing that people are different, and different doesn't make somebody wrong. 295 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: So to understand styles, you know, things that people are 296 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: passionate about, how they show up to certain things. Being 297 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: different is just different, and how you can combine those 298 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 3: differences and to make just a powerful experience is just 299 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: so good. And so for me, I've learned to be 300 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 3: more of an empathetic leader. To know that I might 301 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: do something different than you doesn't make you wrong, me right, 302 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 3: or vice versa, just makes us different. So we have 303 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: our Gold Award is the highest award girls earning Girl Scouts, 304 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: and they have to do a project that will make 305 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: change within a community and it has to be sustainable. 306 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 3: So for me, it's just so fascinating to watch these 307 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: young women in the projects they do. And then we 308 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: give out one hundred and twelve scholarships one girl at 309 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: each Girl Scout council each year who aren't their Gold Award. 310 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: And I read that you've helped increase that pool of 311 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: money for scholarships by a significant amount. 312 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: Right, Well, that was actually the local council that we 313 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: had a campaign, but we have on the national level. 314 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: We used to give out ten scholarships a year, and 315 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: we've grown that now to one hundred and twelve. 316 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that is incredible. Ten to one hundred and 317 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: twelve and that's been all while you've been the CEO. 318 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: I won't take all credit because it takes a team, 319 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: but yeah, it's happened up for the last couple of 320 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: years and a very passionate board of directors that wanted 321 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: to make sure that that was possible. So it takes 322 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: a lot and huge community support. We wouldn't be able 323 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: to do without people, you know, stepping in and supporting 324 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: in that way. 325 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: We reference kind of some of the projects that the 326 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: girls have done. What are someone like the stand up 327 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: projects that you've seen that you're like, I can't believe, 328 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: like a twelfth grader, oh has. 329 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: Come up with this prob Yeah, I mean, and it 330 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: goes on and actually if you ever go to the 331 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: website you can actually go and read the projects. But 332 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: things like girls that see that they want more STEM 333 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: education at a school, they'll do their own STEM curriculum 334 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: to help young people with STEM. I love it robotics. 335 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: I think I shared one young woman who built a 336 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: wind turbine out of recycle material to power portion of 337 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: her family's home, Like I was doing that at seventeen. 338 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: No, it's so wild. What do you think is the 339 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: most important skill somebody can learn when they're mentoring young girls? 340 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: Listen? 341 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: Like, we often think we know what our kids need, 342 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: and I always say that when we make decisions at 343 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: Girl Scouts, put that girl at the center of the 344 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: decision at all times. So in mentoring, really to be 345 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: able to see what does that child, what does that 346 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: girl need most, because often we can just think what 347 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: they need. But I think just pausing and being able 348 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: to listen and know what they mainly need is going 349 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: to be the most powerful thing for her. 350 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: I feel like listening something that's so simple, but at 351 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: the same time it can be so difficult. 352 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: I used to have a sticky note on my laptop 353 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: that said, never forget the Art of silence. Literally, I 354 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: had it there to remind myself that there's so much 355 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: power in listening. And you can tell me people have 356 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: said it. You have two ears in one mouth for 357 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: a reason. But you're right the intentionality that it takes, Yes, 358 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: two ears in one mouth. 359 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: That's so cute. I've never heard that before, but yeah, 360 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to say that because that's honestly really good 361 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: advice for women aspiring to have leadership roles, Like what 362 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: would you say are the keys to breaking through barriers 363 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: and like navigating those challenges because there's growing pains that 364 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: come with becoming a leader. 365 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: One, it's following your passion. 366 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: Because I'll talk to women that will have reached levels 367 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: at different organizations and I'll ask them a similar question 368 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: and they're like, when I was enough about something, I 369 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: would take whatever steps it took and be open to 370 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: the mentors along the way that we're willing to step 371 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: in and lean in and be able to assist. Don't 372 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: go it alone. You know, know that there's an army 373 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: of people around you that want to be able to 374 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: help you. 375 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: When you had just gotten into the role as like 376 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: CEO of Girls Guts, did you have a mentor that 377 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: you kind of leaned on. 378 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: I've had many mentors. Those long runs with my sister 379 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: had been the best. I always say that's like advice 380 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: that we give each other because we can be really 381 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: candid with each other in a way that you know, 382 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: we don't tell each other what maybe you want to hear. 383 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: We say what you need to hear. And that's the 384 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: best mentoring you can get. 385 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: Oh, that's so true. I mean, my twin and I 386 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: definitely go at it, which it is. It's the best. 387 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: It's like we have the best ideas together in the 388 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: same sense of humor. It's so true. The twin thing 389 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: is like unbeatable for people that aren't born with a 390 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: built in best friended mentor. Though, it is important to 391 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: find a mentor and foster somebody that can really give you, 392 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: like genuine advice, whether it's like a mom or a 393 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: cousin or an older sister brother. 394 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. 395 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: And we just said that it is finding that I 396 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: had a girlfriend who one time said to me, as 397 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: I come to you because I know you're going to 398 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: tell me what I need to hear. That's a mentor. 399 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 3: It's like, so, yeah, you're right, find that person. 400 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: Were there challenges that you experienced, like when you were 401 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: first starting out in the role that you kind of 402 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: had to grow through. 403 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say the biggest challenge is just remembering 404 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: we're in girls Scouting. We're the microchasm of the nation. 405 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: We really are. 406 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: So we have girls from all different backgrounds and beliefs 407 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: and where they've come from. And I have such a 408 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 3: respect for that because that's actually the future, so our 409 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 3: ability to have girls again who may think differently, be 410 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: different together they're learning from an out young age. What 411 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: that looks like at a time where I feel like 412 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: we need that because that's our future. 413 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: What do you think is the future of girl Scouts? 414 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: I see us just exploding? I really do. 415 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: I think I was sharing recently with somebody. I remember 416 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: when my three children were young, and there was a 417 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: billboards at the time that said, do you know if 418 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 3: you read one book a night to your child, how 419 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: much more likely they will be to succeed? And I remembered, 420 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: like literally hyperventilating, going, I don't read a book each night, 421 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: and guess what, moms started reading a book each night. 422 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: I feel that's what girl Scouting is today. When I 423 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 3: see what families want for their young girls, we offer 424 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: what they want. So now the biggest thing for us 425 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: is making sure that we can have every girl who 426 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 3: wants to be a girl Scout get. 427 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: To be It is amazing. I'm curious, like what initiatives 428 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: right now that you guys are doing are you super 429 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: passionate about and what are some that you want to 430 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: see happen in the future that you guys are maybe 431 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: working towards that people can be excited about or you know, 432 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: help us manifest. 433 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 3: So I think what we offer, like the different badges 434 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: girls earned, we've stayed so relevant so current. I mean, 435 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: I think like we have cybersecurity badges today and I 436 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: always tell girls that didn't exist when I was your age. 437 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: So I feel we stayed really relevant in our programming. 438 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 3: The how we offer girl Scouting to girls is something 439 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: that is I'm very passionate about. I myself wasn't a 440 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: girl Scout, and when folks would ask me, it's like, 441 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 3: my mom really didn't know that much about girl Scouts, 442 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: And so for me, that's one obstacle that exists. It's 443 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 3: helping people truly understand who we are, what we do, 444 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 3: and really be in community. So communities who don't know 445 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: girl Scouting, how are we like showing up with them, 446 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: not for them, but with them so in a way 447 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 3: that they're like girl Scouting can be part of what we. 448 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: Do, absolutely, And it is interesting because like for me, 449 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: when I became one, like I just kind of associated 450 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: the Girl Scouts organization to be like almost a part 451 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: of the school, like every school kind of came with them. 452 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: But it's interesting knowing that that really isn't the case, 453 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: and knowing that you guys are working hard to like 454 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: educate more people on the organization even though it's been 455 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: around for so long and I would assume that everybody 456 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: knew about it, but it's just not the case. 457 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: And I think sometimes for organizations that are as old 458 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: as we are one hundred and thirteen, it takes more 459 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: to have people remember how relevant we are today because 460 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 3: we've been around, they remember it from the last time 461 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: they were involved. And so it's making sure people see 462 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: Girl Scout logo and they're like, oh, Girl Scouts, and 463 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: like they know the brand. We got to make sure 464 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: they know what the brand stands for and what we 465 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: do today. 466 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 1: Tell us about the Girl Scout Cookie initiative and why 467 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: it's so important. 468 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: So the Girl Scout Cookies have been a part of 469 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 3: the program for over one hundred years. Wow, and we 470 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: look back. If you think about it again, it's learning 471 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: those skills. You know, you're learning people's skills and money 472 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: management and business ethics and all the things that come 473 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: along with the Cookie program. I love the goal setting 474 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: and decision making piece because to me, that's part of 475 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 3: the entrepreneurship side of the Cookie program. So it's the 476 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 3: largest girl led entrepreneurship program in the world. And you're right, 477 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 3: it's more than when you see girls out there. I 478 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: encourage people stop and ask them, you know, what are 479 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 3: you going to do with your Cookie proceeds? Because one 480 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: hundred percent stays in that local Girl Scout council, with 481 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 3: the troop and with the council itself. 482 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: So the girls can use. 483 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 3: What they earned through the Cookie program to power their experiences, 484 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 3: whether it's community service or going on a camping event 485 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: or earning different badges. I mean, they choose what they 486 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: want to use it for. And if you ask women 487 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: like I went to a group of women CEOs Fortune 488 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: five hundred CEOs and it was awesome to hear them 489 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: talk about the Girl Scott Cookie Program, and every one 490 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 3: of them like one it was the steps to doing it. 491 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: One is I was always the highest seller. 492 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 3: Women attribute so much of what they learned in that 493 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 3: program to skills they used today in the roles that 494 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: they hold today. So that's what we're developing in girls again, 495 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: from kindergarten all. 496 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: The way through. 497 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: What was the original cookie a short bread? 498 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: Ah? 499 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: And now how many cookies are there within. 500 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: The so there's different varieties and so right now and 501 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 3: actually the very top one because I always get asked, 502 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: what's the biggest one? Is the girl Scott Finn Mint 503 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: that is the top seller every single year, So I'd 504 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: have to ask you, what is your favorite? 505 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: I think I really liked all of them, Like I 506 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: always loved the short bread one as well. Oh gosh, 507 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: there's like the one that has peanut butter that is 508 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: like it go as a go to. I don't know 509 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: what the names are for any of them, but my 510 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: mom would get like one of every box. Yes, but 511 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: I was never the girl that sold the most amount 512 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: of cookies because definitely in our town that was like 513 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: I lived in New Jersey Town that was right next 514 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: to the train line where all the men would go 515 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: into work, like girls would literally just bring it to 516 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: their dad's office and then they'd get so many sales. 517 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: My dad was one of those dads that was like, 518 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: I'm you're not allowed to sell them to the office 519 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: because that was too easy. He was like, you have 520 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: to go door by door and try to sell the cookies. 521 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: I love it today that we so encourage so if 522 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: it whether it's their mom or their dad, whoever, we say, 523 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: don't just take in the order form, let them do 524 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: a little video, let them come in. 525 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: And I love. 526 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: Girls today have their digital cookie sites, so they create 527 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: their own video about what they're going to be doing 528 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 3: with their cookie earnings. And it's so great to see 529 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: the entrepreneurship mindset that comes with it. 530 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: Well now with videos that must be really cute for 531 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: you guys to see. 532 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 3: And they have their own little online marketing platforms. I 533 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: mean again, it has evolved, the programs evolved just as 534 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 3: we've evolved. 535 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Oh gosh, it is so so cute. And yeah, 536 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: that to me was like my favorite part of every 537 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: year when we were like in elementary in high school, 538 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: when the girls got to come around knocking on our 539 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: door selling the cookies, we'd be like so excited to 540 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 1: get them. As a CEO the organization, right now, what 541 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: is the legacy that you want to leave. 542 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 3: The legacy that I want to leave for Girl Scouting 543 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 3: is that every girl who wants to be gets to be. 544 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: And that when I think of the future alum generations 545 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: and how they'll look back and they'll speak to what 546 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 3: they've been able to learn and grow and how Girl 547 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: Scouting has helped them thrive. To me, that's the legacy 548 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: that I want. 549 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for being on post run 550 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: high and run with me today. And it's cool to 551 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: talk to somebody that really has like an influential role 552 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: for young women. I mean, we're all about supporting girls 553 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: on this show and inspiring girls to be the best 554 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: version of themselves, and you really are the example of that. 555 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: So thank you so much. 556 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: Thank you Kate. 557 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I am back Kate here. Thank you so 558 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: much for watching or listening. I hope this conversation inspired 559 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: you whether you're leading a troop, raising a daughter, or 560 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: just trying to be the kind of person others can 561 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: count on. And if this episode made you think of someone, 562 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: maybe your mom or a former teacher, a coach, a friend, 563 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: I'd encourage you to send it to them or just 564 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: text them or give them a call and thank them 565 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: for how they shaped you. As always if you're enjoying 566 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Post ran High, it would mean the world to me 567 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: if you rated, reviewed, or shared our show. 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