1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Hope 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: all of you had fabulous weekends. We are now rolling 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: fully into the month of December. We can say officially 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: next month the voting for the twenty twenty four presidency begins. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: We have a lot of different data out on that front, 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: and also an upcoming debate on Wednesday down in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: where many people are still celebrating the fact that they 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: are Crimson Tide ended up in the fourteen playoff. I 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: know that it is a big sports story when even 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: Buck is reaching out to me like, hey, what in 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: the world's going on? 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: We will talk about that. We'll take some of your calls. 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Our good friend Bill O'Reilly will swing by at one 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: thirty Eastern about halfway through the show. There are polls 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: out that continue to be very favorable for Donald Trump 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: in the battleground states. 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: Joe Biden has. 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Hit and all time for most of our lives low 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: in approval rating net positivity of any incumbent president, and 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: I bet almost any of the lives of anyone listening 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: what does that mean? 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 3: How might it change now? 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: As we are under a year until votes will begin officially, 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: and we're going to be just breaking down a lot 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: of what's going on in the larger political process, including 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: lots of rallies that continue to attack Jewish people all 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: over this country, threats against Joe Biden from Arab voters 30 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: that they will no longer support him. All of those 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: directions we will be going. But we begin with a 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: situation here when Buck texts me and says, what in 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: the world is going on? When Donald Trump has put 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: out a statement saying, if you're upset about the college 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: football selection process, just blame Ron Desanthus he's the governor 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: of Florida, for. 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: Those of you who do not know. 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: This has continued to grow into an uproar started yesterday 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 2: at noon Eastern basically when the playoff rankings came out 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: Florida State University. Those of you who are Seminole fans 41 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: in our audience still fuming, still furious, thirteen and zero 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: left out of the college football four team playoff. Twelve 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: and one Texas and twelve and one Alabama both get 44 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: in instead, thirteen and oh Michigan and thirteen and Oh Washington, 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: not at all controversial, but those are the four teams 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: that will play for a national championship. Buck, you now 47 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: live in Florida. Your wife is a University of Florida graduate. 48 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: So I suppose if you had to take sides in 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 2: the Florida Florida State rivalry, it would be good for 50 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: you to be on the side of the Florida Gators 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: based on your wife. 52 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: My assistant Katie, who. 53 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: You know that works with me and has been with 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: me for nearly a decade now, is a Florida State 55 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: seminole fan. So when she showed up here at the 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: Travis residence, she is still fired up, as like I said, 57 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: a Florida State alum. And by the way, Congressman Byron 58 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: Donald's open phone line for Congressman Byron donalds if he 59 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: or his staff want to get him on the line, 60 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: I am told that he has fired up with my 61 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: opinion that Florida State should not have been in the 62 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: playoff and wants to debate me. So, Buck, you could 63 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: potentially be a moderator in the great did Florida State 64 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: get screwed debate or not? In the event that Congressman 65 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: Donald's I don't even know how busy I think there 66 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: are they still in d C. 67 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: I think they're still in DC. But that is what 68 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: all is going on. 69 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: Congressman Donald's big Florida State seminole fan, represents the Naples 70 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: area in Congress, so he is fired up about that. 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: And I know that Senator Scott has said that there 72 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: should be a congression. I think he said a congressional 73 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: investigation opened into this. Marco Rubio is a huge college 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: football fan. I'm not sure that he said anything, and 75 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that a Santas team has said anything, 76 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: at least if they have, I missed it. 77 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: But that is the chaos. 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: What as a non sports fan, buck, do you feel 79 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: like you just kind of saw a big fight happen 80 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: and you have no idea what happened or why it happened, 81 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: but it just like it was impossible to ignore. 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 4: I was the guy in the movie when the bar 83 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: fight breaks out and I'm like quietly sipping my tequila 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 4: at the bar and I look behind my shoulder and 85 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 4: there's just chairs flying across the room and people throwing 86 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: haymakers or whatever, and I have absolutely no idea what 87 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 4: is going on. All I saw on Twitter over the 88 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: weekend and particularly yesterday when I was reading it for 89 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: Today Show was the melee online over something something something 90 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: college football, and I knew Trump blaming DeSantis was just funny, 91 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: like I don't even know what it had to do with, 92 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: but he turned it into that. So yeah, now I 93 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: have some idea of what happened. 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: So basically, and I understand a lot of people out 95 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: there who don't follow a college football are going to 96 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: think this is crazy. But they just have a committee 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: that decides who the four best teams are at the 98 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: end of the year and then seeds them one to 99 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: four and they now compete in the playoff on New 100 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: Year's Day, the semifinals, and then about you know, seven 101 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: or eight days later is the national championship game. And 102 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: so they left Florida State out thirteen to oh Power 103 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: five conference undefeated teams. Some of you are going to 104 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: think that I am speaking you know, Chinese, because you 105 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: don't pay. 106 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: A lot of attention to this. 107 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: But if you are, and I would guess a substantial 108 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: majority of our audience does pay attention to college football 109 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: in some sense, because I see where we rate highly 110 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: and for instance, you can't be number one in Birmingham, Alabama, 111 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: for instance, as we often are without basically everybody listening 112 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: to us right now, following along with college football and 113 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: certainly many parts of the Big Ten country and the 114 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: SEC is the heartbeat of a region. 115 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 4: And for the New Yorkers in Californians, you do not 116 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 4: watch any college football. I find that on the coast 117 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: that's more common, or at least in the Northeast and 118 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 4: in some parts of California. 119 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: Yes, they are, they are. That's what I'm saying. I 120 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: might as well be speaking Chinese right now, right out 121 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: of the open. But I'm there for you guys, for 122 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: you guys who have no idea, and gal's what is 123 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: going on there you go. So all of this ties 124 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: in with the looming chaos that is continuing to build. 125 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: So if you want to weigh in, by the way, 126 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: eight hundred and two eight two two eight A two 127 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: on you're fired up about what happened in the college 128 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: football playoff rankings, you can fire in there. Do we 129 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 2: have the actual statement from Trump? Because I do think 130 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: that is that is very funny and I might have 131 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: to pull it up on truth social because Trump just deciding, Hey, 132 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm gonna blame Ron DeSantis for this 133 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: is really very very funny. And you know, I went 134 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: on with Dana Perino, Buck and Dana. They have a 135 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: funny segment where she basically doesn't know anything about sports. 136 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: So every now you think Dana does sports, I. 137 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: Have Trump, Pierre, Florida State was traded very badly by 138 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: the Committee. They've become the first Power five team to 139 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: be left out of college football playoffs. Really bad, really 140 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: bad look bad lobbying efforts. Let's blame d sanctimonious. 141 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: It's actually what a good a good read as Trump too, 142 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: just very very funny. The governor of Florida just you're 143 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: gonna throw him under the bush. Trump coming down on 144 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: the side of Florida State. I think I was trying 145 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: to think from a political perspective. You know, Texas doesn't 146 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: feel like they were screwed. Trump's got Alabama locked and loaded. 147 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: It's gonna win by thirty if he's on the ballot 148 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,239 Speaker 2: in the state of Alabama. So maybe you go ahead 149 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: and try to score a few political points with the 150 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: Florida State seminole fan base, which is obviously huge all 151 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: over the state of Florida and beyond. But that is uh, 152 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: that is very funny that he has elected to uh 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: to way in and uh yeah, this is all uh, 154 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: this is all chaotic. I think Buck, they got the 155 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: right decision. I know Alabama Crimson Tide fans sometimes not 156 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: happy with me for some of my opinions. Texas fans 157 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: not always happy. I think the college football Playoff Committee 158 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: got it right. So I am of the opinion that 159 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: they did nothing wrong at all. 160 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: You can come at me. 161 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: And be absolutely furious about this, but that is my 162 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: hot take. They did everything right. 163 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: I did. 164 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: I would have voted the exact same way that they did. 165 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: I and but he's to your expertise on this one. Man, 166 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: I have watched a college football game all year. You 167 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: should take the other side and scream Florida State was 168 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: screwed because that way we covered the entire landscape of 169 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: listenership and everybody at least feels like is U of 170 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: f so I but they made it in right, So 171 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: then we're good. Florida's five and seven. They they didn't 172 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: even make a playoff are They're not even going to 173 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: a bowl game? Well, then I have nothing to worry 174 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: about it. I didn't know if there was controversy around this. No, 175 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 2: no stat for Florida fans out there who feel like 176 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: they're left out, this is the three worst football seasons 177 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 2: Florida has ever had since nineteen forty seven. Florida Gators 178 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: have never had three straight losing seasons since nineteen forty seven. 179 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: Probably blamed the sanctimonious. 180 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, so that is out there. We'll take 181 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: some of your calls, probably have some fun with it. 182 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: But the debate is actually happening. Ironically, in an incredible twist, 183 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: Meghan Kelly, who's not usually involved in sports, may even 184 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: bring it up with people on the stage. They're doing 185 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: the debate Wednesday, Buck in Tousgaloosa, and Alabama is the 186 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: team that benefited against Florida State. So let's set the 187 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: table here for how we think this is all going 188 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: to break down, and we will going forward. But I 189 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: want to mention one other thing that was great. You know, 190 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 2: I was at the Tunnel to Towers gala dinner that 191 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: they did the Marriott Marquee Hotel in Times Square Buck 192 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: this weekend. Odd's while I was up in New York City. 193 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: I helped to read the names of some of the 194 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: people who've lost their lives and that Tunnel to Towers 195 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: has then paid off the mortgage free home for their families. 196 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: Drew Brees was on the stage. Cole Houser, who plays 197 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: Rip right now on Yellowstone. Drew Brees, of course, former 198 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints quarterback who won a Super Bowl very 199 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: much beloved Lawrence Jones was there. 200 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 3: Pete Hegseth Buck. 201 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: That event raised over five million dollars for Tunnel to 202 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: Towers and Frank Siller got up, as many of you know, 203 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: on the stage and give gave an incredible State of 204 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: the Union address where he basically said, I want to 205 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: end veteran homelessness once and for all, and he said 206 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: they've taken three thousand homeless veterans off the streets. And 207 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: he asked everybody out there, and I'm going to ask 208 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: all of you two we're in the holiday see if 209 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: you have eleven dollars a month that you can donate, 210 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: ninety five percent of all money goes directly to help 211 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: those that are in need. That's unheard of for a charity. 212 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: Not surprisingly, they've been audited, they have been checked out 213 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: a ton. They are taking care of so many people, 214 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: including Captain James Howard. He served for years in the 215 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: eighty second Airborne Division train for Special Forces. He sustained 216 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: serious injuries and as a C five quadriplegic, all four 217 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: of his limbs affected. He's paralyzed from the chest down. 218 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: Tuttle the Towers gave him and his family, Captain Howard 219 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: a fully adapted, mortgage free smart home to ease the 220 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: financial burden and make the day movement of his life easier. 221 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: You can help an honor America's heroes this holiday season again, 222 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: we raised over five million buck. 223 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: It was incredible. 224 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's also little stuff all adds up, and 225 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: so you know, five million is obviously big stuff. But 226 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 4: every month, you and I both have Taulta Towers fans 227 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: taken out of our account and you get a little 228 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: notice and it's just automatic, so you don't think about it. 229 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 4: You can just set it up and I'm telling you, 230 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: you get a little email. You're just like, oh man, good, 231 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: I made my tonul To Towers donation. 232 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: Whatever whatever it is you can do. 233 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 4: It's eleven dollars a month, great, if it's one hundred 234 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 4: dollars a month, great, But you set it up every 235 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 4: month and I don't think there's a better way you 236 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: can spend your money. And I'm a big believer in 237 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: the holiday season. Taking care of the people we need 238 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 4: to take care of is a single most important thing. 239 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and think about that eleven dollars a month. You're 240 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: talking about twenty five or thirty cents a day. You 241 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: will not notice that twenty five or thirty cents a day. 242 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: And in this day and age where there's so much negativity, 243 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: if you can help out a little bit, join us 244 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: and do it at T two t dot org. That's 245 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: t the number two T dot org. T two t 246 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: dot org. All right, when we come back, Buck, let's 247 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: have some discussion about this upcoming debate and more as 248 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 2: Yeah came. 249 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,239 Speaker 4: Oh well, I'm starting to see it New York Times headline. 250 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: You ready for this one, Clay, why a second Trump 251 00:12:54,679 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 4: presidency maybe more radical than the first? Hitler is it's 252 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: going to be even more hitler than he was the 253 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 4: last time? Is where the left is taking this conversation? 254 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: Crazy town population democrats. We are going to get into 255 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 4: this coming up here in just a few minutes. Stay 256 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 4: with us. 257 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 6: One truth revealed after another, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton 258 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 6: welcome in everybody. 259 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: Second hour of Clay and Buck starts right now. I'm 260 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: going to talk to you about the latest in Israel's 261 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 4: war against the terrorist group Hamas. Now there's reporting from 262 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: over the weekend that the leader of or a leader 263 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: of Hamas, Osama Hamda, is on video promising a war 264 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: of liberation is coming, not just another October seventh. So 265 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: this is showing you, I think what people have been 266 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 4: at least we've been discussing on this show all along 267 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 4: that as long as Hamas continues to exist, there is 268 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 4: an unacceptable threat against the Israeli people and the Israeli states. 269 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: The only way. 270 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 4: This conflict comes to an end, that is that is 271 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 4: or should be acceptable to the Israeli State and to 272 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: Israel's allies is the effective destruction of Hamas as an entity. 273 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: And people who say, well, what does. 274 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: That mean, It means all active Hamas fighters and Hamas 275 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: leadership either incarcerated or dead. 276 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: That's what it means. 277 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: There are there are war aims here that can be 278 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 4: expressed in definitive terms, and that will obviously take time. 279 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 4: There will be Israeli soldiers and personnel who are lost 280 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: in this process. There will be civilians who are killed accidentally, 281 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: but who are killed as the Israeli military tries to 282 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: get and take out these Hamas members. But should we 283 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: should have no illusion, There should be no no mistake 284 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: about this. The Israelis are fighting a war that is 285 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 4: just and one that they have to see through to 286 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: its completion, or else there will be another attack like 287 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 4: what we have seen now. Something that has been getting 288 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: more attention play in recent recent. 289 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: Days is the. 290 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: Intentional and widespread sexual violence that Hamas engaged in against 291 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: Israeli civilians. Initially, the brutality and the viciousness, the sadism 292 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: of the Hamas attack on October seventh was so overwhelming. Honestly, 293 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: reading the details does make you want to vomit. It's 294 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: that level of depravity that I think it was almost 295 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: hard for people to process, to fully process everything that 296 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 4: went on, and people have been traumatized just by the 297 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: amount of trauma that has been inflicted on the Israeli people. 298 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: I know people in this country who have cried and 299 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: who have had trouble sleeping because of what they've learned 300 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: about what happened, particularly Jewish friends of mine. What they've 301 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 4: learned about what happened to fellow Jews and Israelis overseas. 302 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: So when you have a member of Congress who was 303 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 4: asked about the intentional and systemic rape of women and 304 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: of men and of children by Hamas terrorists as part 305 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: of this attack, it was clearly decided that this was 306 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 4: going to be part of the psychological warfare right, a 307 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 4: systematic campaign of rape against the Jewish people in this 308 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: attack on October seventh. When you have a member of 309 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: Congress who's asked about this, I don't think people would 310 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 4: generally expect that this is the response. This is representative 311 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: Jiapol over the weekend. She was asked about this by CNN, 312 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: and this is she's a Democrat from Washington. 313 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 3: This is cut sixteen play it. 314 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 7: I've condemned what Hamas has done. I've condemned typically all 315 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 7: of the actions. Absolutely. I think we cannot say that 316 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 7: one war crime deserves another. In respect, I was just 317 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 7: asking about the women, and you turned it back to Israel. 318 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 7: I'm asking you about Hamas. 319 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 5: In fact, I. 320 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 7: Already answered your question, Dana. I said it's horrific, and 321 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 7: I think that rape is horrific. Sexual assault is horrific. 322 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 7: I think that it happens in war situations. However, I 323 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 7: think we have to be balanced about bringing in the 324 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 7: outrages against Palestinians. And it's horrible, but you don't see 325 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 7: Israeli soldiers raping well, Dana, I think we're not. I 326 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 7: don't want this to be the hierarchy of oppressions. 327 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: I mean credit to CNN's Donna Bash there for saying 328 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 4: Dana bash whatever, for saying the obvious, which is no, no, no, 329 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 4: this isn't one crime deserves another. Hold on a second, 330 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: the Israelis do not rape Palestinian men, women or children 331 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 4: as part of their military policy. Hamas does. The Palestinians 332 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 4: here did. They're fighters, their martyrs, they did do this, 333 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: and the international community has to contend with this and 334 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 4: has to understand that the monsters who did this, they 335 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 4: must there must be justice, and that means, you know, 336 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 4: you can convince me they can be incarcerated for life, 337 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 4: but I honestly think that they should be killed. 338 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: I agree that they should be killed. 339 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: And this is what she said, she doesn't want to 340 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 2: get involved in oppression analysis. But this is why she 341 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 2: doesn't want to get involved in oppression analysis, because Hamas 342 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: is the terror organization that specifically targeted women and children 343 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 2: to murder and rape and kidnap, and that has not 344 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: occurred it all from Israel, because Israel's response is about 345 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 2: defending its own people from ever having this occur again. 346 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: And there was a front page article in the New 347 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: York Times on Friday buck saying that remember right afterwards, 348 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: right after October seventh, we came on and we said, 349 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: how's this possible? How is it possible that this attack happened? 350 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: Front page article in the Friday New York Times said 351 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: Israel had the entire game plan of hamas their battle plan, 352 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: their intended details of the attack. Literally had the entire 353 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: battle plan and said there's no way that they could 354 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: actually implement this, and so they didn't put in place safeguards. 355 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: And so I do. 356 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: Believe, while they are responding right now, our analogy of 357 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: this is basically Israel's nine to eleven, where when you 358 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: go back and you look at all of the evidence, 359 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: it wasn't that this suddenly occurred and there was no 360 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: idea it might. It was that we missed all of 361 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: the evidence on nine to eleven, and now Israel had 362 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: all the evidence that it needed and it missed what 363 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 2: they were going to do so. I actually think that 364 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: is an important aspect associated with how this response is 365 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: now playing out. But the refusal to condemn is central 366 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: to this because that also credit to Dana Bash on CNN, 367 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: creates what is clear, this is not an even playing 368 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: field where both sides are committing atrocities. The other thing 369 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: I would say about this is increasingly in the United States, 370 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: the politics of this is becoming more and more of 371 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: a crisis for Joe Biden. Over the weekend, there was 372 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: a huge uprising of Arab Americans saying we will not 373 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: support Joe Biden. I don't know how much attention you 374 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: pay to this, buck, but when they were pressed on 375 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: you understand that not supporting Joe Biden could mean Donald 376 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: Trump is in office, they basically said, we don't care. 377 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: We are opposed to Biden. We're in a situation now 378 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: where the longer this goes on, Joe Biden is losing 379 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: support from Arab Americans, which was about a sixty five 380 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: percent pro Biden vote, and he's losing support of Jewish voters, 381 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: which was about a sixty five percent pro Biden supporter. 382 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: It's not just that he's losing one side buckets that 383 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: the conflict between these two sides is costing Joe Biden 384 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: immensely in both directions. And if this kind of tension continues, 385 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: and I'm not sure it will eleven months from now, 386 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: we'll see, but if it did Joe Biden, I don't 387 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: think the math adds up for Joe Biden to be 388 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: able to win because when these identity politics coalitions collide, 389 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: you have to pick a side and decide that anyone 390 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: with a functional brain should pick. 391 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: Here is Israel. 392 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: But the Democrats are in a tough spot because this 393 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: is both of their coalitions fighting. 394 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: You know, there's there's, as we've discussed, a lot of the. 395 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 4: A lot of the protests on campus or the riots 396 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: or whatever's going on is about sure, anti anti Semitism. 397 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: That's a big part of it. But there's also this 398 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 4: sense of a need for people who are left wing 399 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 4: in their politics and non white so and you know, 400 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 4: just meaning non white, to have a solidarity with the 401 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 4: Palestinians because it's interesting. Representative Jaiapaul says, you know, I 402 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 4: don't want to get into you know, like intersectionality and oppression. 403 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: Well that's exactly what's going on though in this country, 404 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: and you have all these members of Congress, for example, 405 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: who are the ones who are the most outspoken in 406 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: favor of the Palestinians, and Hamas are not are not white, 407 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: they're non white, they're different ethnicities, and there's this sense 408 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 4: of there must be a solidarity. We've talked about this, 409 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 4: right what BLM groups have all this solidary with the Palestinians. 410 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 4: And you say, well, what is what is that all 411 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: about it? And it's because this is viewed through This 412 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 4: conflict is viewed in this country, largely through because this country, unfortunately, 413 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: the left is obsessed with race and obsessed with racial 414 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: conflict in America, and so the solidarity they have with 415 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 4: the Palestinians is overwhelmingly driven by a racial sense of solidarity, 416 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 4: as in just non white. 417 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: They are non. 418 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: White, therefore they are oppressed. They're actually Palestinians who are 419 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: very light skined, who are as light skin as me. 420 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: But put that aside. They don't you know, they're red haired, 421 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 4: blue eyed Palatinians. 422 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: They don't care. 423 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 4: And there are Israelis who are Ethiopian, and you know, 424 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 4: we've talked about how there's much greater complexity than what 425 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 4: the actual debate reflects in this country and how and 426 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 4: how the left treats this issue and deals with this issue. 427 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 4: But you know, there's something there's something very there's something 428 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 4: very different about even Look, Hamas has engaged in suicide 429 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 4: bombings at at little girl's birthday parties. Hamas has engaged 430 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 4: in suicide bombings at pizzeria just killing everybody that's and 431 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 4: views intentionally doing so. This is not collateral damage. This 432 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: has kill as many people who are celebrating a birthday 433 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: or trying to be out at a disco and have 434 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: a night out as they possibly can. But the systematic 435 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 4: rape campaign, this is something that you know, this is 436 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 4: a level of evil beyond even what we had seen 437 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: from Hamas in the past. And I think there's a 438 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: bit of panic on the left because they like to 439 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: think of Hamas and the you know and the Palestini 440 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: people they represent as oh, they're they're so oppressed, you know, 441 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 4: they're just fighting back with what they have. 442 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: No. 443 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 4: No, the decision to engage in a systematic rape campaign 444 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 4: against people during a terror attack against civilians is a 445 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: decision of barbarism and evil and sadism. And you know, 446 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 4: the the head of the Israeli Intelligence Services is saying, basically, 447 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 4: we're gonna hunt every single one of them down. And 448 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 4: this is an argument that I would have with absolutely 449 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 4: anybody in this country. The Israelis are absolutely right. 450 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 5: To do so. 451 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: They actually have a moral and ethical obligation in my mind, 452 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: to do so, and nothing can be allowed to stand 453 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 4: in the way of this. Slow this down the Biden administration, 454 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: Clay is all of a sudden getting a little Oh, 455 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 4: but we need balance and we need to Biden's worried 456 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: about you brought this up. He's worried about the Arab 457 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 4: American vote, He's worried about the Muslim vote in this country, 458 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 4: and so he's trying to slowly but surely kind of 459 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 4: backstab Jewish liberals in this country on this issue. 460 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: He's trying to get away with it. 461 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also keep in mind even the hostage exchange. 462 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 2: We haven't talked about it on this program, but you're 463 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: talking about babies being exchanged for people who committed actual 464 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: crimes and Palestine getting back three for every one. There 465 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: are no babies in the possession of the Jewish population. 466 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: There are no women and children who happen to be 467 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 2: kidnapped doing nothing wrong in the possession of the Jewish people. 468 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: They are trading actual criminals for one hundred percent innocent people. 469 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I've I've spent time with members of the 470 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 4: elite Israeli military services, Sireth Matkal and some of these 471 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 4: other you know, sort of close to their equivalent of 472 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: Seals or their equivalent of Delta Special Forces. If they 473 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 4: were ordered to go into a village and rape a 474 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: bunch of Palestinian women. 475 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 3: They wouldn't do it. 476 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: Now, first of all, they would never be ordered to 477 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 4: do it by the Israeli state. But I'm just saying 478 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: they wouldn't do it. I would stake my life on it. 479 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 4: They wouldn't do it. Hamas Though just did it, you know, 480 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 4: broad scale. It wasn't just one or two guys this 481 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 4: video bragged about it, called their parents to talk about 482 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: how many Jews they had just killed. But so this 483 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 4: is why I keep saying that there's this oh, we 484 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 4: need to be careful in our condemnation and what you know, 485 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 4: a representative Jaia Paul is saying, and you know, there's 486 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 4: bad on both sides. 487 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: No no, no no, no, I'm sorry, no no. 488 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: No, no, not on my watch, not today, not with 489 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 4: what we know has happened here, and what the future 490 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 4: is of this conflict, and what needs to happen in 491 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 4: order for the Israeli state to be safe. What Hamas 492 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 4: did is is for currently and forever entirely indefensible. And 493 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 4: the Left is in a panic because at some level 494 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 4: they understand that, at some level, there's no way to 495 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 4: make it disappear that they beheaded babies and they gang 496 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 4: raped women, because that's not military, that's not resistance. That 497 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 4: is monstrous evil. And it was done from the command 498 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 4: and control level on down by these Hamas monsters, and 499 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: they need to be hunted down. And whatever we can 500 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 4: do to back Israel up in this process. 501 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: Is what we should do. All right. 502 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 4: I got to switch gears here for a second because, look, 503 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 4: I know the economy is still really well. 504 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: Look, let's focus in on what the problem is. 505 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 5: Right. 506 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 3: Things are too expensive. 507 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: You're paying too much for stuff that you've been paying 508 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 4: for your whole life. I know, I just got out 509 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 4: of a Publix here down in Florida and the prices 510 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 4: have gone up for everything, eggs, which I buy all 511 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 4: the time. Obviously, we need gas here, we all need 512 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 4: gas to get around. Well, what if I told you 513 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 4: I could save you over the course of the year 514 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 4: hundreds of dollars and there's no downside. In fact, all 515 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 4: there is is upside. Well, this is why I need 516 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: to check out the Upside app. I've got it on 517 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 4: my phone and it's kind of fun actually, because you're like, wait, 518 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get gas hold on what's the best deal? 519 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 3: You open up the. 520 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 4: Upside app on your phone and it shows you where 521 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 4: you can get great discounts on gasoline and on groceries, 522 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: and you're probably thinking, like, what's the you know, what's 523 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 4: the downside of this? There is no downside. It is 524 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 4: all upside. You can save fifty cents or more per 525 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 4: gallon in grocery shopping. You can save up to thirteen 526 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 4: percent off everything that you buy. So if you're looking 527 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 4: for cash back when you're at Starbucks or Jersey Mics 528 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 4: or thousands of restaurants too. By the way, Upside will 529 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: give you the location of every participating location out there 530 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: and you can just see it right there on a 531 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 4: map on your phone. 532 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: It's so easy, a great app, and. 533 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 4: You're just getting the stuff you'd normally get, but you're 534 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: saving money. 535 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: I mean, my. 536 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: Wife who loves a good deal loves the Upside App. 537 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 4: She's like, Wait, we're just gonna go to this gas station. 538 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 4: We've got fifty cents off a gallon. 539 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: Let's do it. They go for it. 540 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: Upside App. Type in Clay and Buck. That's the promo 541 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 4: code when you get the Upside app downloaded to your phone. Okay, 542 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: I'll ask you, and you type in Clay and Buck 543 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 4: no spaces in between. You'll get twenty five cents back 544 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: or more on every gallon of your first tank of gas. 545 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 4: Download the free Upside app today. Use that promo code 546 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: Clay and Buck, no spaces in between. Just do this 547 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 4: and save yourself money. And it's going to add up 548 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 4: to hundreds of dollars. And like I said, there's no fee, 549 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 4: there's no downside, only upside with the Upside. 550 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 6: App, the supply chain of smarts, sanity and Truth uninterrupted. 551 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 5: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 552 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. 553 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: We've got our friend Bill O'Reilly with us now eighteen 554 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 4: number one best selling books in his Killing series, the 555 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 4: latest which I have. 556 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: A copy of here in studio. 557 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: In my bookshelf, Killing the Witches, The Horror of Salem, Massachusetts. 558 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 4: You can also go to Bill O'Reilly dot com for 559 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: the No Spin News. Bill, good to talk to you again. 560 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 8: You know I'm on TV with you guys now right. 561 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm all dressed up. I had to get 562 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 8: makeup in here just for you guys. I want to 563 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 8: give you a compliment before we start. Last time was 564 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 8: on we talked a little bit about Killing the Witches 565 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 8: and its spiked up on Amazon about two hundred points. 566 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 8: It was, you know, early in the distribution of the book. 567 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 8: So far it sold two hundred and fifty thousand copies 568 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 8: in two months, which in this day and age when 569 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 8: you know, reading is down because of the Internet, because 570 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 8: of a cell phone, so you guys have some cloud 571 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 8: out there. I'm happy to be back. Killing the Witches 572 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 8: is going to be very viable as a Christmas gift. 573 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 8: So I hope everybody it just takes a. 574 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: Look, absolutely absolutely, and I think it's a fascinating part 575 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: of history and so people should should check it out. 576 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: And Bill, I wanted to get you to weigh in 577 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 4: if I could, on something we were just talking about. 578 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: Before, and it's do you see. 579 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: A big problem here unfolding for Biden and the Democrats 580 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 4: going into this election year. We're on the one hand, 581 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: they've got this radical left, pro Hamas pro Palestinian stuff 582 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 4: going on on campus mostly but some stuff in the 583 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 4: media and these but they also want to not be 584 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 4: seen as betraying Jewish American Democrat voters. And it feels 585 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 4: like right now Biden can't make he can't make both 586 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 4: groups happy. 587 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: Is this a big issue? How do you think it 588 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: plays out? 589 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 8: Well, it's a cumulative effect on Biden. So there's a 590 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 8: new harrass pole shows Trump beating Biden pretty handily, particularly 591 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 8: when rfk uh is uh is polled in the three 592 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 8: way race. 593 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 5: So Biden is in a position. 594 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 8: Now where his economic policies are hurting everybody in the 595 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 8: sense that the average American household now spends twelve thousand 596 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 8: dollars more in essentials than it did the last year 597 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 8: of Trump. People know it. The folks know it. So 598 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 8: that's a big, big mark against Biden. On the other stuff, 599 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 8: whether it be his age, whether it be Hunter. And 600 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 8: there's a report out today that Hunter paid him thirteen 601 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 8: hundred a month. 602 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 5: It's ficky ewn. By the way, they still. 603 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 8: Don't have Biden getting a massive amount of money from 604 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 8: Hunter's grifting. They may get it, they being the House 605 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,239 Speaker 8: subcommittee on this because Hunter Biden has to come in 606 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 8: to testify in two weeks. But right now the perception 607 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 8: of Biden is he's not doing anything right nothing. Now, 608 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 8: Jeffrey Katzenberg is running his campaign. You know who Katzenberg is, 609 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 8: you guys. 610 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: I mean basically one of the biggest Hollywood producers of 611 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: all time. 612 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 8: Right right, So Catzerberg is tight in with Spielberg, is 613 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 8: tied in with the whole Hollywood nexus, and those guys 614 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 8: are the money behind Joe Biden. All right, That's who's 615 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 8: driving the treasury there. But they don't want anybody sympathizing 616 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 8: with Hamas they are backers of Israel, so that the 617 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 8: rank and file progressive left, the AOC's the other crazy 618 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 8: squad people. They hate Israel, and the progressive movement hates Israel. 619 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 5: Things is a fascist nation. 620 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 8: But the power behind the Biden campaign, the moneymen, are 621 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 8: all Jewish and they're pro Israel, and so Biden's caught 622 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 8: right in the middle there, which is why you don't 623 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 8: see any strength. And again it's a cumulative thing. So 624 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 8: the economy is hurting the folks Ukraine is a mess, 625 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 8: Israel is a mess. 626 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 5: What's going right? That's what's gonna sink Biden. 627 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: Iowa caucuses six weeks from today, legitimately January fifteenth, first 628 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 2: votes can be cast associated with twenty twenty four bill. 629 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 2: Do you think it is going to be the case 630 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: that if we finally get down to Ron DeSantis versus Trump, 631 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: or Nicky Haley versus Trump, that anyone out there or 632 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: you know, vi Vaik or whoever would be the final 633 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 2: number two candidate, that anybody can take down Trump? Or 634 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: do you basically think Trump is the nominee? This thing 635 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 2: is effectively over. As we sit here, six weeks out 636 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: from the first votes being. 637 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 8: Cast, all you can do is say what would happen 638 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 8: today or tomorrow? Can't because there's so many things involved, 639 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 8: and it's Donald Trump. Always keep that up of mind. 640 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 8: So if it's Donald Trump, you don't know what's going 641 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 8: to happen on Thursday. 642 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 5: Okay, anything could happen. 643 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 8: So right now there's no challenger that's close, and I 644 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 8: don't think that's going to change. So the debate tonight 645 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 8: Wednesday of this week News Nation, I'll be part of. 646 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 5: That analyzing that. 647 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 8: And Nikky Haley has emerged as the strength now against Trump, 648 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 8: but she's still He's still beating her three four to one. 649 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 8: Trump will be wise to put her on the number 650 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 8: two and announce that early. That would moderate Trump's position, 651 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 8: particularly with women, and he needs so I don't know 652 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 8: if the Trump campaign or the former president himself knows, 653 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 8: you've got to get more than the MAGA people in 654 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 8: a general election have to puts Pailey on the two, 655 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 8: which she would take. 656 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 5: That really strengthens him. 657 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 8: Desanta's I think helped himselves a little bit last week 658 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 8: with the bait against Newsom, and I write about that 659 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 8: on Bill O'Reilly dot com. Newsom was so appalling that 660 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 8: it made just say it is look decent. Doesn't have 661 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 8: to do anything. He just says that I'm gonna let it. 662 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 8: I'm gonna let Newsom have my tie. That's what he 663 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 8: should have just done. You take That's how bad do 664 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 8: to some was okay, And so the sat has helped 665 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 8: himself a little, but he's not gonna win Iowa. And 666 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 8: if he doesn't win Iowa, it's over for Desanthus, so 667 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 8: the last person standing as Nikki Hayley, Trump should co 668 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 8: opt her take her off the board. Uh, and that 669 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 8: Wu's mean the Republicans be a lot stronger going into 670 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 8: next year. 671 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 4: Speaking of Bill, O'Reilly killing the Witches the latest and 672 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 4: the Killing series and Bill, people are thinking about gifts 673 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 4: for the holidays. You know, people have heard of Salem 674 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 4: witch Trial before. We've talked to you a little bit 675 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 4: about her here on the show. What what's new that 676 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 4: people will get from the book, you know, either in 677 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 4: terms of perspective or just historical information, because because I 678 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 4: know it's selling like crazy, but why is it selling 679 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 4: like crazy? 680 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 5: Because there's three elements to the book. 681 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 8: There's the appalling thing that happened in sixteen ninety two, 682 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 8: all right, which people have heard about, but they don't 683 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 8: really know how bad it was, all right, So we 684 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 8: lay it out very vividly. 685 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 5: But we begin with the Mayflower. 686 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 8: Everybody thinks the Mayflower was the love boat, that it 687 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 8: was carnival cruise lines. 688 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 5: Hey, Mayflower. No, it was horrendous. 689 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 8: And the fact that these hundred people made it here 690 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 8: and then they all went nuts and some of them 691 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 8: migrated up to Salem and then that happened. But the 692 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 8: real crux of the book is we have freedom of 693 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 8: religion because of the Salem witch Trials. There's no freedom religion. 694 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 8: Back in sixteen ninety two, you did what the Puritan 695 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 8: minister told you to do, or you were in the rack, 696 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 8: or had a noose. 697 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 5: Around your neck. 698 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 8: Benjamin Franklin picked that up as a teenager in Boston, 699 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 8: took it to the kind of convention. People don't know 700 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 8: that that our freedoms today a lot of them come 701 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 8: from the Salem witch Trials. And then there's what's going 702 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 8: on today, the witch trials today in New York State 703 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 8: where I am, the expiration of the ability to file 704 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 8: a lawsuit that in nineteen twenty two somebody did something 705 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 8: bad to you, expired four thousand cases. Lawyers are advertising 706 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 8: on television, tell me, tell me, tell me who I do. 707 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 8: An unbelievable witch hunt. Four thousand cases filed in November 708 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 8: alone in New York State, and some of them are valid. 709 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 8: But you don't think there's a witch hunt going on. 710 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 8: It's not a man in this country that couldn't have 711 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 8: his reputation destroyed in a blink of an eye by 712 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 8: an attorney if there's money in it. 713 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 5: And that's a witch hunt. And it is so powerful 714 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 5: that has. 715 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 8: Inhibited people on cable news, in particular from saying anything 716 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 8: scared of death and so the witch hunt today, no 717 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,479 Speaker 8: due process. The media just slams the headline you're through 718 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 8: that ties into what happened in Salem. There's no difference 719 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 8: other than the rope. 720 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 2: Bill, you and me are on the side of truth 721 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 2: justice in the American way in believing that Joe Biden's. 722 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 3: Not going to be the nomine again. 723 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 2: Every time you come on, I just want us to 724 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 2: again reinforce how correct you are. 725 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 5: No, but we well, we could be wrong. 726 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill says, take the hint, buddy. 727 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 5: Because look, I've been wrong. 728 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 8: I was wrong about the midterm elections and still haunts me. 729 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 5: I thought that was going to be just a landslide 730 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 5: for the word. 731 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, but most of the football raise their kids, so 732 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 8: it takes them a little bit longer. But Joe Biden 733 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 8: is the second worst president in the nation's hit street, 734 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 8: next to James Buchanan, who did absolutely nothing to. 735 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 3: Stop this great historical analogy. 736 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: A lot of people forgotten about James Buchanan right before, 737 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: right before Abraham Lincoln came in. 738 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 5: Right. 739 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 8: Biden is the second worst, worse than Herbert Hoover, worse 740 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 8: than Warren Harding. I am writing a book as we 741 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 8: speak that will be out next September twenty four about 742 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 8: every president and how good or bad they were every one. 743 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 8: It's called Confronting the President's all right, Biden is so 744 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 8: bad in every way, and when the liberals come up 745 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 8: against me in my Noespin News, I say, give me 746 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 8: one thing, one thing that Joe Biden's do in three 747 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 8: years to improve this country. 748 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 5: One thing they can't do it? Do you guys know 749 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 5: of one thing? 750 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 4: The show I put play on that hotspot. I've said, 751 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 4: if someone's going to give you a million dollars, what 752 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 4: would you say? The big Biden victory is? And you 753 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 4: know not being Trump doesn't count. So we're with you 754 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 4: on that one. Bill, everyone should go bi Bill, go 755 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 4: to Billo rally dot com. 756 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 5: Bill. 757 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 4: We got to cut it here, but everyone should go 758 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 4: to the Bill of Rally dot com site. Also get 759 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,959 Speaker 4: the Killing the Witches book which is out now. Bill, 760 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 4: Thanks so much. We'll have you back soon. 761 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 5: Okay, guys, Merry Christmas. 762 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas to you. Man. 763 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 4: By the way, I love the way he tied that 764 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 4: into the current situation and what's going on, because it 765 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 4: should be. It should be troubling to people, what's happening 766 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 4: this this you know, how do you defend yourself from 767 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 4: I know someone's saying, this guy grabbed me thirty years ago. 768 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 3: How do you prove you in. 769 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 5: Everybody? 770 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 4: Like that of limitations exist for a whole lot of things, 771 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 4: and there are things that it should be expanded to include. 772 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,399 Speaker 2: I saw three or four different people in New York 773 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: City who are prominent buck get charged with early nineteen 774 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: ninety these sexual assault allegations, including Mayor Eric Adams of 775 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: New York City. Leave aside whatever political disagreements you may 776 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: have nineteen ninety three or nineteen ninety four, you're gonna 777 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 2: suddenly say somebody did something to you inappropriate, and you're 778 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 2: gonna argue that they are responsible for it. This is 779 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 2: this is crazy, and I think more and more people 780 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 2: are recognizing how crazy it is. 781 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 4: This country needs to have have a real, you know, moment, 782 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 4: at least in some states. I should say it really 783 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 4: states a real moment about the statute of limitations as 784 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 4: it pertains to some of these cases. 785 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 3: As you raise. 786 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 4: Also this idea that you can be you can lose 787 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 4: a civil judgment in a self defense case after you've 788 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 4: been exonerated or at least not guilty in a you know, 789 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 4: in a self defense case of using a firearm, for example. 790 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 3: People still get sued. This is happening all over the place. 791 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 4: So if someone breaks into your home, you defend yourself 792 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 4: with a firearm, it's totally lawful. Either there's no charges 793 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 4: brought against you, or you're found guilty in accord. And 794 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 4: that person's a state, assuming you know, the burglar, the 795 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 4: home invader, you know, dies in this process, that person's 796 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 4: a state, consue you and they can win. 797 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is great. 798 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just craziness for beyond a reasonable doubt 799 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 2: versus you know, the preponderance of the evidence standard in 800 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 2: civil versus criminal, that area in between the two. But yeah, 801 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 2: there's a Look, there are a lot of things that 802 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: came from the Me Too movement that are unmitigated disasters, 803 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 2: and one of them is the ending of any sort 804 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 2: of statute limitations on a state base to see. 805 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we'll come back here in a second. 806 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 4: I want to tell you about something really interesting. Actually 807 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 4: a couple things are really interesting in the realm of technology. 808 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 4: And then third hour, Clay and I are going to 809 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 4: dive into a big study on masks for kids. 810 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 3: Spoiler alert, their garbage come. We'll come right back. 811 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: Download and use the new Clay and Buck app. Listen 812 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: to the program live. 813 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 6: Catch up on any part of the show you might 814 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 6: have missed. 815 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: State current with what Clay and Buck a saying on TV. 816 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: Fine the Clay and Buck app rap store and make 817 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: it part of your day. 818 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 819 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,240 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us. We are rolling through 820 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: the Monday age of you listening to us in Iowa 821 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: will be able to go out and have your voices heard. 822 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 2: A couple weeks later, still in January, is the new 823 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 2: Hampshire primary. Both of those going to be hotly contested, 824 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 2: and then we will see what moves forward from there. 825 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: Doug Bergham has dropped out on Tuesday, as I just 826 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 2: minished and mentioned, we'll have Donald Trump sitting down with with. 827 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 3: Sean Hannity again. 828 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 2: Big ratings by the way for that Newsome versus DeSantis 829 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 2: debate on Fox News. I think around six million people 830 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 2: ended up watching that, which is a huge audience relatively speaking. 831 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 2: We've got the debate coming up on Wednesday with the 832 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 2: four leading remaining candidates on the stage, and there'll probably 833 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 2: be some fireworks there. Megan Kelly is the moderator. But Buck, 834 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: question for you. They continue to investigate Joe Biden for 835 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 2: allegations of impropriety associated with Hunter Biden. And now there 836 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 2: are new reports that Hunter Biden paid Joe Biden a 837 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 2: monthly sum of some sort around thirteen hundred dollars I think, 838 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,479 Speaker 2: which is very small relative to the dollars that came in, 839 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 2: but that this money, according to the House Oversight Committee 840 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: and James Comer, the congressman leading that investigation, may well 841 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 2: directly have come from China. In your mind, Buck, does 842 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 2: anything that the House can uncover about Joe Biden change 843 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 2: in any way whether Joe Biden is likely to be 844 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 2: the nominee going forward? In other words, is there anything 845 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: that you think they can uncover where Democrats would say, okay, 846 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 2: this is the final straw, because for a long time 847 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: they said there was no evidence that Joe Biden engaged 848 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 2: in any kind of work with Hunter. That's a complete 849 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 2: Why there's now tons of evidence and whether or not 850 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 2: it's criminal or not we can debate, but certainly there 851 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 2: was a lot of interaction between Hunter Biden and Joe 852 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 2: Biden based on the Biden family business. But is there 853 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 2: anything that can be uncovered that alters the political calculus 854 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 2: in your mind? 855 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 4: My answer will be unsatisfying too many, but it is 856 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 4: the truth as I see it, and so I'll always 857 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 4: say what I think the truth may be. I do 858 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 4: not think that there is anything that the House Oversight 859 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 4: Committee will uncover that will change the trajectory of the 860 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 4: election based upon Joe Biden Hunter Biden corruption, because here's 861 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 4: how it will go down. I don't think that Joe 862 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 4: Biden was actively pitching, right. I think that the whole 863 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 4: point was he was the man behind the curtain, right, 864 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 4: He was the you'll get access to him down the line, 865 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 4: but first you got to payoff, you know, the sketchy relatives, 866 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 4: the son, the brother, Right. I think that was the 867 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 4: game that they were running, and they were doing so 868 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 4: very effectively. I mean millions of dollars we're talking about here, folks, right, 869 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 4: millions of dollars were exchanging hands. People generally don't just 870 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 4: give you a million dollars for no reason, you know, 871 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 4: And what we saw here was over twenty million dollars 872 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 4: at least, and I know some people say the numbers 873 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 4: a lot higher going to Biden, who touched on this 874 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 4: the worst case scenario, right, The final fallback for the 875 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 4: Democrats in all of this will be, uh, it's not 876 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 4: criminal because Joe didn't know and no charges have been brought. Now, 877 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 4: of course, klayy, no charges have been brought. Component of 878 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 4: this will make a lot of people say yeah, because 879 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 4: he's the president and his DOJ is not going to 880 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 4: bring charges against him. But just because there's a response 881 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 4: to the propaganda doesn't mean the propaganda will be ineffective. 882 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 4: So I think ultimately they would just say he didn't know, 883 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 4: it's not criminal. Lots of politicians do this, and Donald 884 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 4: Trump is worse than the Hitler, and that's the way 885 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 4: they'll go. So do do you think I'm crazy? Or 886 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 4: could you see this? 887 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 5: No? 888 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 2: I think your argument that Democrats are suddenly going to say, oh, 889 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 2: you caught us is akin to everybody out there who 890 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 2: argued that masking kids made sense. They're going to say, well, 891 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: whenever the evidence goes against them, like, let's just move 892 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 2: on and not talk about this issue. Here's where I 893 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 2: do think it could be relevant in twenty twenty four, though, 894 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 2: Biden made a lot of hay with independent voters on 895 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 2: this idea that he was everything Trump was not. He 896 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 2: was going to restore adulthood to the White House, he 897 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 2: was going to restore normalcy, our sense of decorum, our 898 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 2: sacred democracy. All of those things were his calling cards. 899 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 2: I think what it does for many people is and 900 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,760 Speaker 2: again I'm talking about the people who might be persuadable voters. 901 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 3: Everybody out there who voted. 902 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 2: For Trump in twenty twenty, and you're listening to us 903 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 2: right now, you already knew about a lot of the 904 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 2: corruptions surrounding the Biden family, and if anything, all of 905 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 2: the evidence continued to come out has just further confirmed 906 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 2: how corrupt they were. So you are not being influenced. 907 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 2: I don't think in a substantial way by this evidence 908 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 2: that's coming out against Joe Biden and Democrats. I think 909 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 2: by and large are going to line up and defend 910 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 2: their team and pretend that this stuff just isn't happening. 911 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 2: But I do think there are buck a lot of 912 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,720 Speaker 2: independents who are going to say a pox on both 913 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 2: of their houses effectively, and that benefits Trump and or 914 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 2: whomever the eventual Republican nominee could be because Biden did 915 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 2: score political points on the idea that he was somehow 916 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 2: more sanctimonious than his opponent. And so as a result, 917 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 2: I think as more and more of this drip drip 918 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 2: allegation comes out, I do think it impacts the overall 919 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 2: Biden brand on trustworthiness, where he used to have a 920 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 2: massive lead on Trump, and now I think a lot 921 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 2: of voters just say, again, these are middle of the 922 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 2: road voters. Yeah, the parties are equally corrupt, These guys 923 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 2: are equally dirty, and that helps Trump because Biden did 924 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 2: have an advantage there. 925 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 3: And again I don't know, you know, I'm like e 926 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 3: or over here or something, you know, not to be 927 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 3: that guy. 928 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 4: But whatever corruption allegations will be unearthed at this point, 929 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 4: will in the media, you know, Thunderdome be juxtaposed against 930 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 4: for federal I'm sorry for felony three federal, two federal 931 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 4: and two state, four felony indictments against Donald Trump. 932 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,240 Speaker 3: So every time we. 933 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 4: Say, hey, guys, it's clear that there was corruption with 934 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,239 Speaker 4: the Bodens and probably should be criminal charges, what are 935 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 4: they going to say on CBS News, What are they 936 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 4: going to say over at CNN, The New York Times, 937 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,919 Speaker 4: they're going to say, unlike, you know, Donald Trump, who's 938 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 4: been indicted four times and faces a million years in 939 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 4: prison for crimes that no one really even knows what 940 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 4: the crimes are supposed to be. Joe Biden's never been 941 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 4: even indicted for a crime. Again, I know all the 942 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,959 Speaker 4: counter arguments. I know it's not fair, but I think 943 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 4: that part of the reason. Remember, they accuse you. You've 944 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 4: said this before about Democrats. They accuse the right of 945 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 4: all the things that they do, right, Yes, they accuse 946 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 4: people of the things that they are the most guilty of. 947 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 4: And when you're talking about corruption, a great way to 948 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,760 Speaker 4: cover up corruption for the Bidens is to bring felony 949 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 4: indictments against Donald Trump. Because every time we say, hold 950 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 4: on a second, middle of the road voter, hold on 951 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 4: a second independent voter, Joe Biden was selling out his 952 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 4: country to China. I'll say that's not proven, that's not alleged. 953 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 4: Donald Trump is the one who's facing prison. Does that work? 954 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 4: I mean, I think you and I agree that may 955 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 4: not work, but I think that's the plan, and I 956 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 4: think it certainly muddies the waters. 957 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 2: No, I think that's one hundred percent true. But I 958 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 2: would say that this is why, in the same way 959 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: that you and I thought the primetime January sixth hearings 960 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 2: were a total kangaroo court. It was embarrassing, There wasn't 961 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 2: much revelation there, A small percentage of voters were impacted. 962 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,760 Speaker 2: I feel the same way about why Joe Biden should 963 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 2: be impeached, because you could have primetime hearings, and because 964 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 2: there may well be a small number of voters out 965 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,440 Speaker 2: there that haven't been paying attention that look up and say, Wow, 966 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 2: this Joe Biden guy's actually pretty corrupt. 967 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 3: The idea that. 968 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 2: He was going to restore normalcy in a sense of 969 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 2: decorum to the White House, boy, that was really a 970 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 2: bill of goods I bought. I think people inherently feel it, 971 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 2: but I think that would be the next level step 972 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 2: associated with it. In terms of what's going to happen. 973 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 2: It would be much like the double Trump impeachments. It's 974 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,239 Speaker 2: political theater with unlikely to have long range implications, but 975 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 2: with some small measure of voters, I think it could 976 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 2: be impactful. Look, we're coming up on the holiday season. 977 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 2: Certainly a lot of you getting around for the company 978 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,760 Speaker 2: holiday parties. You're out running around with your family and friends, 979 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,320 Speaker 2: events that you're trying to make sure that you don't miss. Wednesday, 980 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 2: I've got an event. Tuesday, I've got an event. Family 981 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 2: and friends. We're going to be out of town for 982 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 2: the holidays. A lot of you are as well. You 983 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 2: want to preserve your family's memories for as long as 984 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 2: you possibly can. Do you know how many of those 985 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 2: old VHS tapes, how many of those old Camquarder videos, 986 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 2: how about just old photos in general. 987 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 3: Are slowly being lost? How many people are storing your 988 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 3: family's history up in their attic. 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