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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast for our final NFL

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Speaker 2: recap episode of the season. I am your host, Evan Abrams,

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Speaker 2: and I am joined as always by the one. Now

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Speaker 2: this guy he did well tonight. He picked some winners

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Speaker 2: for you. I'm joined by Brandon Anderson, of course, in

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Speaker 2: the early hours of Monday morning, to break down what

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Speaker 2: we saw from Super Bowl fifty nine. This one. I mean,

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Speaker 2: first of all, Brandon, before we get into this game,

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Speaker 2: which honestly wasn't even really a game, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: guess you start punk punt and you say to yourself, okay, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm not sure I predicted this one. I

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Speaker 2: mean some people like points, some people didn't. But at

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Speaker 2: that point you said to yourself, okay, well anything can happen,

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Speaker 2: and then it kind of broke open. What's up man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, wow, it really on. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I guess we're doing this slow thing. We kind of

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Speaker 3: thought this. I thought it might trend toward Under certainly

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Speaker 3: did not. I'm happy to not bet the total here,

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Speaker 3: but I looked under early it looked like, okay, we're

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Speaker 1: Early we had like.

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Speaker 3: The long fourth down conversion for the Eagles that came

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Speaker 3: off for an offensive pass interference. I don't think it

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Speaker 3: was offensive pass interference, but you can't put your hand

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Speaker 3: on the other dude's face. Mak like that's a penalty

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Speaker 3: every time it's right in the refs line of site.

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Speaker 3: Then we had sort of a makeup call I thought

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Speaker 3: the other way. Then, thankfully the rests really not a story.

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Speaker 3: After that, I thought, I don't know that necessarily felt

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Speaker 3: like they were part of it, obviously. Ke turning point

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Speaker 3: is it's ten nothing, and I don't have proof of

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Speaker 3: i'd tweeted or something. It felt like that. So the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs are getting the ball back, they hold them to

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Speaker 3: the field goals ten nothing. It felt like a big

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Speaker 3: play was coming, and I said to my girlfriend, Okay,

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Speaker 3: either the Chiefs are about to get a huge touchdown here,

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Speaker 3: here for the other team. And I think it was

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs. I don't think it even had that first down

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Speaker 3: on their very first play, and then just like nothing

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Speaker 1: I think they did have only one first down.

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Speaker 3: But Mahomes not good, not good at all in this game.

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Speaker 3: Overthrows trying to make something happen. Just didn't see Cooper

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Speaker 3: out of like the threeels so close. But he takes

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Speaker 3: it in and seventeen nothing. It's like okay, well, you

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Speaker 3: know it's my home. It was like seventeen nothing.

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Speaker 1: You know better?

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Speaker 3: Is are premed to be like, all right, are we

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Speaker 1: Like can we put the money line now?

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Speaker 3: that play was not the end the end, but in hindsight,

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Speaker 3: before that I was like, Okay, it's fine. Mahomes always

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Speaker 2: I think you're probably right. I mean, at that point

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Speaker 2: So you know, first three possessions casey punts, and that's

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Speaker 2: Who is you know, minus one twenty first touchdown? As

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Speaker 2: just not what we saw here. And then I mean,

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Speaker 3: That certainly didn't really do much determine the game, Like

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Speaker 3: just an Eagle's landslide. But yeah, that one was disappointing. Hopkins.

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Speaker 3: ChIL Caapatia tweeted out best defensive first half performance both

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Speaker 3: So I mean, the friends that I texted or talked

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Speaker 3: I don't know about the commercials. My girlfriend was very

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Speaker 3: getting excited over here. I got my Carson Wentz jersey on.

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Speaker 3: That's about how Mad Holmes played today. But my family

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Speaker 2: The two underrated storylines out so on that Mahomes throat

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Speaker 2: fact that in the red zone, guys forget the red zone.

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00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: They didn't get that, you know, midfields all half, like

433
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 2: the red zone didn't even become a part of this game.

434
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 2: That's how good the planning was. And the last one

435
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 2: is Fanjo's defense health. Mahomes second worst performance by EPA

436
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: in a game in his career, and that's that's really

437
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 2: where it was a great stat also ESPN Stats and Info.

438
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: So I think only five quarterbacks in Super Bowl history

439
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: have been sacked six times or more. Mahomes is only

440
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 2: the second to get them six sacks versus four or

441
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 2: fewer pass rushers. I mean, this was an absolute clinic

442
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: and it honestly showed in every time you were watching

443
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: any of the possessions. I mean, he was on his

444
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 2: butt constantly, and everyone on all these pods for us

445
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: talked about the fact that these two players between Kellendo

446
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 2: and Toony just were at a position and it was a.

447
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 3: Mess Yeah, six sacks is the most ever for Patrick Mahomes.

448
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 1: Look, I gotta be fair here.

449
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: If we watched this game Super Bowl or otherwise, and

450
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Speaker 3: this was Lamar Jackson or this was Josh Allen or

451
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 3: whoever else, we would be murdering them for how bad

452
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 3: that they played. Patrick Mahomes was awful in this game.

453
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: I know he ends up with three touchdowns and twitter

454
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Speaker 3: fifty seven yards, like, I know that the positive stats

455
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 3: kind of come there now. Mahomes was terrible. The two

456
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: interceptions were both awful throws. You can't put the ball

457
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: up for grabs that deep in your own territory. The

458
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 3: six sacks, Look, we say it all the time, sacks

459
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 3: are a quarterback stat. The offensive line was not good

460
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 3: in this game, no doubt about it. But I don't

461
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: feel like Mahomes handled the pressure at all in this game,

462
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: or even the very first possession of the game. They're

463
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: pinned back deep after they got the stop on the Eagles,

464
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: and Mahomes on third and long, like scrambles left wheels

465
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: around under pressure and like runs all the way back

466
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 3: almost into the end zone and like throws it trying

467
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 3: to kind of throw it away and almost got picked

468
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: right there already on like the thirty yard line. It

469
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 3: turned out that should have been a sign like that.

470
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: That is effectively what he was doing, trying to avoid

471
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Speaker 3: pressure in this game. It just didn't work. It was

472
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 3: not going well. He did not handle the pressure. He

473
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 3: had the stripsack also, so three turnovers. That's another one

474
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Speaker 3: of those that I'd call out Lamar for, so collingel

475
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: Patrick for.

476
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

477
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Speaker 1: I had the EPA stat as.

478
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Speaker 3: Well, second worst of his career, and the only reason

479
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 3: that was second worst it was point oh one worst

480
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 3: last year against Denver. The only reason is because of

481
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 3: that huge play to Za if you're worthy at the end.

482
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: Otherwise it's way worse than that because that's a ginormous

483
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: EPA play too. Interestingly, second orders DPA per play. Third

484
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 3: worst was against the Eagles last year, week eleven, when

485
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: he played them.

486
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Speaker 1: Perhaps we should have given that a little more credit.

487
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Speaker 3: Fourth worst was the other Super Bowl loss against the Buccaneers,

488
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,959
Speaker 3: very similar sort of feel to today, where he just

489
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: didn't get past any of the pressure. Just pressure, pressure, pressure,

490
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 3: all game. Did not get much help obviously, Zavi, you're

491
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 3: worthy made plays, but Chiefs finished with only forty nine plays.

492
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: They just never had the ball here two hundred and

493
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Speaker 3: seventy five yards and I think over one hundred of

494
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 3: that was those just two long worthy bombs. So outside

495
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 3: of those two, just like effectively Hail Mary's, the Chiefs

496
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: are one hundred and what one hundred and fifty to

497
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy five yards just just terrible. And again,

498
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: to be fair, not just Chiefs terrible. Eagles awesome. Eagles

499
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: defense awesome should be the real takeaway, like it's it

500
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: goes both ways, but yeah, Mahomes just absolutely not good

501
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: enough in this Jalen Hurts MVP. Jalen Hurts to lose

502
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 3: the game for the Eagles was my cap. So even

503
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: though I hit a bunch of my nice long shots,

504
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 3: my main pick, I didn't get it on this one.

505
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts wins MVP.

506
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: I did get the Jalen Hurts MVP because I kind

507
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 3: of bet against myself on that one. I don't know

508
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: that Jalen Hurts was incredible. He just didn't have to be.

509
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: He did when he needed to as a passer. Got

510
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 3: the long one to DeVante that really really ended it.

511
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 3: They got the fourth down stop and then the kill

512
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: shot the very next play thirty four nothing. I was like, okay,

513
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 3: even Mahomes can't come back from thirty four to nothing,

514
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 3: which is we're all thinking it, which is a a

515
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: show of.

516
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: How much respect we have for Mahomes.

517
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 3: When it's like mid third quarter, thirty four not through,

518
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, it's gotta be over now, right. I mean,

519
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: it's thirty four five touchdowns like that, that's insane. But

520
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: Smith at that one first touchdown ever by a non

521
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: quarterback Alabama player in the Super Bowl, which is pretty crazy.

522
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: And aj Brown made some big plays. Nobody really had

523
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: overwhelming stats on the Eagles because they didn't have to.

524
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: I had the stat Here's the starting position for the Eagles.

525
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: They had won two, three, four times they started with

526
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: the ball in Chiefs territory, not counting the pick six obviously,

527
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 3: which you'd like start as the zero. Even without counting that,

528
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: the Eagles started with the ball on average at the

529
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Speaker 3: forty four yard line. That to me, again, the Chiefs

530
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 3: defense gave up a couple of long ones, they gave

531
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,959
Speaker 3: up some passes down the field. I thought the Chiefs

532
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 3: defense just ran out of gas, basically, like it would

533
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 3: have been nice to make a couple more plays or

534
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 3: go on the attack. Maybe Spags did not get to

535
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: go on the attack much. They held Eagles, I believe,

536
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: three of twelve on third down, all of one on

537
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: fourth down. They're just on the field all game because

538
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 3: like we've kind of seen that in recent years. I

539
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 3: think back to like the Jets a year ago where

540
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: they had not not the one that just finished, Not

541
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: those Jets. Let's never think of those Jets again. But

542
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: a year ago, this really really good defense, but the

543
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: offense was so abysmal that the defense just wasn't quite

544
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: good enough because they're just on the field all game.

545
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 3: And I feel like that's kind of a little bit

546
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: what happened here where the Chiefs shut down their run

547
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: almost completely other than a couple of hurt sneaks and

548
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: scrambles and otherwise gave up a couple of passes, but

549
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: just on the field and playing on their heels all

550
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 3: game long. And you know, we thought maybe we'd have

551
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 3: the three peat story here. We've still now never had

552
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: one in NFL history. We've not had one in any

553
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: major Americans sport men's or women since two thousand. Since

554
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: early two thousand, Lakers Michael joined the Bulls did it twice.

555
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 3: It is tough to three peat. We have had it

556
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 3: for a while, So yeah, I kind of ran through

557
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: a bunch of bullets all over the place on that one.

558
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: What else do you have on this game?

559
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: I think it's just probably a good time to give

560
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: Hurt some flowers. I mean the stat I saw, which

561
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: is great as he has ten passing touchdowns ten rushing

562
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: touchdowns in the postseason, so fifty. I looked it up

563
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: because I was curious. Fifty three players have ten plus

564
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: passing touchdowns in their playoff career. Nine players have ten

565
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: plus rushing touchdowns. He is the only one with both.

566
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: So I mean, his versatility I think is very key,

567
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: and it was actually part of the reason you and

568
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: I both agreed we liked him for MVP is we

569
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: thought the odds were a little bit long for a

570
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: guy who runs very predictable plays which he got a

571
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown, and it was very much a part of

572
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: why he won the MVP. I think the pass to

573
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: Devanta helped, Like I think there was things that probably

574
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: went with it, but the fact that we knew he

575
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: was probably going to get zero point seventy five touchdowns,

576
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: you know, or are something of that nature in this

577
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: game when you look at like projections and things like that.

578
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: So I think that's worth talking about. The other stat

579
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: that's just playing out fun is longest odds to win

580
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP for a quarterback last twenty years plus

581
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: three seventy five Jalen Hurts super Bowl fifty nine plus

582
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: four to sixty Nick Foles super Bowl fifty two. So

583
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: both situations coming with Philly in that spot, and then

584
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: the better one is Foles and Hurts. Both those Eagles

585
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: teams is the reason we haven't seen a three peat

586
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: since the Packers in the sixties. So Foles basically cuts

587
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: off the Patriots three p in the middle, and we

588
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: just saw what Hurts did. So both performance is very different.

589
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Eagles scoring forty points in this game, and

590
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: in that Foles game they scored a bunch of points

591
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: as well. I think the other thing, which is something

592
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: we had talked about earlier this week and on other podcasts,

593
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: is the experience of Hurts being in the game, Siriani

594
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: being in the game going through the two weeks. I mean,

595
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: at no point did I feel like Philly felt uncomfortable

596
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: in this one. Barkley doesn't have a good day at all.

597
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: Twenty five carries though, so they stick to the run.

598
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: And even I thought this was one of the best

599
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: parts of the game is the past of the Devanta

600
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: because it basically says to you that, yeah, we're up

601
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: a million, but we're still going to attack, yeh. And

602
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: to me, that was the perfect representation of kind of

603
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: the Eagles. The other one, I'll say, I'll give you

604
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: two more stats, which just kind of continued in this one.

605
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: I tweeted this out. This one makes no sense, guys,

606
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: but it's just it's insane that it's actually true. Which

607
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: is the team with the better win percentage entering the

608
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: Super Bowl is now one in seventeen against the spread

609
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: since two thousand and three. I'll say that again, one

610
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: in seventeen against the spread and the one winner Patriots

611
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: over Falcons, So it really should be eight team. It's

612
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: just wild, I mean, inflation of some level, obviously a

613
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: butt ton of noise, but a crazy stat. Nonetheless, Yeah,

614
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: I mean I.

615
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: Saw the stat.

616
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: I saw that before the game, and it was it

617
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: was one stat that I was like, really, just like

618
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: when a stat like it still is a small sample

619
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Speaker 3: on like under two decades and just one game a year, obviously,

620
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: but like when when a stat has a zero or

621
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: a one on one of the numbers, it's always going

622
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: to catch your attention at least to make you think

623
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: twice about it.

624
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well what is this?

625
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: It like that The natural logical conclusion I could draw

626
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: of okay is the stat anything is is one conference

627
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: tougher and getting you more ready for the big game,

628
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: and one conference easier and not getting you as ready

629
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: as much and getting us over inflated.

630
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: On how good we thought a team was.

631
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: And look, I wrote an article in like week ten

632
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: or twelve or something burying the cheap being like, the

633
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: Chiefs are done. No Chiefs future, that's not gonna happen.

634
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: They're gonna get blown out one of these games. I

635
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: bet the Chiefs still win the super Bowl in this

636
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: game like we got.

637
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: I totally went away from that.

638
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: This is the game that, like back in week ten

639
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: or so, that felt like was coming for the Chiefs,

640
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, they kind of hit

641
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: the gas light and they got things moving.

642
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: But back to the stat a little bit.

643
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: They got things moving against Pittsburgh and then against Houston,

644
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: and then against Houston again, and maybe it turns out

645
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: those teams weren't all that great either, They just also

646
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: were in the AFC also playing a lot of the

647
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: bad teams, and maybe that's kind of what that stat

648
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: is representing. Certainly it's one that I filed away in

649
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: my head, although I started floating around there a lot.

650
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: So now it's like it's one of those that now

651
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 3: we all know, we're gonna remember it for next year

652
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: and then is gonna finally flip the other way for once.

653
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: But definitely an interesting one.

654
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: And the other one that's great is I mean, at

655
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: this point, the underdogs covered five straight Super Bowls. Wow,

656
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: And I looked it up before we went on here.

657
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: That's the longest stretch in history. Obviously that include the

658
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: Bengals who lost the Super Bowl but ended up covering,

659
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: which is not something we had seen in almost forever

660
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: at that point, but five straight covers for underdogs. Underdogs

661
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: have been really good in Super Bowls too. I think

662
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: it's like twelve and five or something like that last

663
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: seventeen ats, so really really a good stretch. When you

664
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: get into this game, it almost feels like the two

665
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: weeks kind of evens it out a little bit. But listen,

666
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: we had seen two Super Bowls of the better team,

667
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: I think most people would say on paper losing to

668
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: the better quarterback, and today it just felt like we

669
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: saw that Tampa chief Super Bowl over again. I mean,

670
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: the pressure in his face changed the game completely. And

671
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: I don't really have too much else here. I mean,

672
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: I think we really kind of sum up the game

673
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: by just saying that it never really felt like Casey

674
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: had a chance when they fell behind. They just didn't

675
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: put up the points. And it almost at the end

676
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: of the game it almost felt like at times maybe

677
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: they had started to find for ways to attack it,

678
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: but the pressure just felt like too much. And it's crazy.

679
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: I mean, no Boods is just insane.

680
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean really forty to twenty two, Like for

681
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,479
Speaker 3: our bets sake, I'm happy that the Chiefs got some

682
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: of those late scores, got to rexave your worthy of

683
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: bets and everything. From a historical standpoint, kind of just

684
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: would have rather had the shutout. It felt like they

685
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: shut them out still like that. To me, this historically,

686
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: when we look back on this ten years, twenty years

687
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: from now, I think this was the defensive masterclass against

688
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, and I think it's going to be the standard,

689
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: and I think it will end up being in an

690
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: all time great play career for a guy that still

691
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: may go down as the grace of all time, that's

692
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: gotten more things to do to get there, but certainly

693
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: off to the right start. This is the game that

694
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: people are going to point to, like when Vic Fangio

695
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: goes into the Hall of Fame, this is gonna be

696
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: the game that goes in there like this. This is

697
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: one for this is what we remember. It cannot be

698
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: the one to remember for Mahomes choking or the three

699
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: peet following.

700
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: It can't always all be about the Chiefs. This was Eagles.

701
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: This was Eagles defense.

702
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: I was laughing about your stat that we're now in

703
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: five straight underdogs covering. I believe, if I'm right, I'm

704
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: gonna follow my own sword here for you. I believe

705
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: this is my fourth Super Bowl I've covered with the

706
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: Action Network.

707
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: Now, look, I made a lot of money for us today.

708
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: We hit some long shots.

709
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: We got the Eagles defensive touchdown, we got the hurt's

710
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 3: longest rush, we got the worthy two touchdowns all ten

711
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: to one or longer my main bet was the Chiefs.

712
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: I am now zero and to four in the Super

713
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: Bowl on my main.

714
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: Side pick at the Super Bowl.

715
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: And I'm laughing because apparently that means that I'm captain favorites,

716
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: and every year I must be taking the favorite in

717
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and every year the underdog keeps covering.

718
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 3: Although I'm pretty sure two times in previous Mahomes Super Bowls,

719
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: I talk Mo Siff and to the better team, the

720
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: better team will win in the trenches, the better team

721
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: will went out they had just pick Mahomes, and I

722
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: finally brought myself to the other side. And look at

723
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 3: it does. For the football nerds like us out here.

724
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: It kind of feels right, like it kind of feels

725
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: nice to be like, Okay, you don't just have to

726
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 3: have Mahomes and magically win everything. You can actually go

727
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: get Zach Bond and Milton Williams, like these are dudes

728
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: that were just available to everybody last you can. You

729
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: can go build this team and actually win a Super Bowl.

730
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: You don't have to just have the God of football

731
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: do it for you. There are other ways to accomplish it,

732
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: and you know it gives you some hope that way

733
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: and I feel like the Eagles, not the Chiefs, have

734
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: to be the storyline like daw because they won the

735
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. But Chiefs is everything at all times. Mahomes

736
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: is everything at all times. And you know, in a way,

737
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: even though I'm not exactly the fondest of Philadelphia fans,

738
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: I will admit it.

739
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: It's so nice.

740
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: It's rare, especially in today's af You used to be

741
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: like the ninth these Every super Bowl is like this.

742
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 3: Every super Bowl was like a twenty thirty point game.

743
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: I hated super Bowls growing up.

744
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: It was no fun. Nowadays everything is down to the

745
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: wire and you we get to enjoy it.

746
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: To get to just victory lap the entire second half

747
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: of the Super Bowl, Siriani just like jumping up and

748
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: down on the sideline. That was one of the earliest

749
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: gateoraye baths I've seen. Like we get the yellow gateoraye

750
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: tel with like almost three minutes left in the game.

751
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: We get the whole image of normally we had it.

752
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 3: Actually network a couple of years ago, we couldn't even

753
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: see what color the gate rade was. We had to

754
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: publish a story and we like broke news to the

755
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 3: Internet of what color it was. Because it like snuck

756
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: onto the screen after it went to commercial, after the

757
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: game was done. This is just like during the play happening.

758
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 3: That's how much the Eagles dominated this game. And yeah,

759
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: they they don't just deserve flowers, they deserve a bouquet

760
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: a rose garden. They got the whole thing that they

761
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: did the thing.

762
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 2: I think the two notes in post game that we'll

763
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: talk about throughout the offseason is the fact that Hertz

764
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: gets the ring for Allen and Lamar, which I think

765
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: will be a continued conference and Burrow, you know, keep

766
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: going and going and going. I mean, Hurts is added

767
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: to a very small list of quarterbacks who is currently

768
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 2: active and with a ring, because that was pretty much

769
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: Mahomes and the old guys. But now Hurts gets out

770
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: of the list. So I think that's number one. That'll

771
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: just be a topic. Number two, I think it's the

772
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: wins and losses for Mahomes and Super Bowl. So he

773
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: beats the forty nine ers by eleven, then he wins

774
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: by three and three, and then his losses are by

775
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: a combined forty points. So I do think that will

776
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: be a unfortunate topic and I don't want to call

777
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: it like a stain on his legacy, because if the

778
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 2: guy goes out there and he's like eight and two,

779
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: I think we're going to probably forget about those two.

780
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 2: But I think losing by a lot in those two

781
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 2: games is something to consider.

782
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: Now.

783
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: The offensive line was the issue in both games, and

784
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: everyone's going to talk about the fact that Brady went

785
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 2: to ten Super bowl and led in the fourth quarter

786
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: of all ten Super Bowls, so there's obviously a difference there.

787
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: But to me, those are the two topics. Hertz gets

788
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: the ring, the tush push, the way the Eagles kind

789
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: of attacked the season and played like worked, and I

790
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: think there's a topic there. I also think that Derrick Henry,

791
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon, Saquon Barkley kind of working in areas is

792
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 2: going to be a topic, like what type of additions

793
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: people can make to put teams over the top because

794
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: it worked here. Barkley doesn't have the best game, but

795
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: they're not in the game without him.

796
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree they this, Yeah, even from that perspective,

797
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: like it had become the Saquon Barkley story this whole postseason,

798
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: and you know, Barkley finished third in MVP voting on

799
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: Thursday Night, when the awards came through, it had become about, Okay,

800
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: this is the same team as two years ago. This

801
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: had Saquon Barkley. That's the only exciting part of the

802
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: Super Bowl Saquon Barkley. Otherwise it's all the same No,

803
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: not the same defense.

804
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: That was the key here.

805
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: We brought in entirely names on the defense. How we

806
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: rebuilt the whole thing, and yeah, this was a team win.

807
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 3: This is the thing you want to see when you

808
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: watch sports. I know, it's really fun sometimes, Like, look,

809
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: we all liked Mahomes starting out. I personally still like him,

810
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 3: but a lot of folks ruin against the Chiefs today.

811
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: A lot of those same folks were really ruined for

812
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: the Chiefs when this thing started out. It's fun to

813
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: like the new guy, the guy chucking it all over

814
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 3: the field, making the amazing plays. Just kind of gets

815
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: old after a while. We like something new, but I

816
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: think in sports too, we like the one player doing everything.

817
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: But it's really refreshing and nice to see the team too.

818
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: Like we know everybody loves to to do youth sports

819
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: and go and like support their local high school team.

820
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: You preach teams, sport, you preach everyone does their thing.

821
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: You don't preach Saquon Barkley, go run for three hundred

822
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: yards and do everything like that's that's fun. We love

823
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: to bet on it. We love to bet the long shots.

824
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: But like, to me, this game, this is football, this

825
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: is sports. This is what you want team sports to represent.

826
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 3: Is you want enough of times you want the better

827
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: team to beat the better individual. And today the better

828
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: individual wasn't good enough. Anyways, he was pretty terrible.

829
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: Wan of the better individuals two in one in games

830
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: against you know, really really really good teams. So kind

831
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: of is what it is? All right? Well, to me,

832
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: that's super Bowl fifty nine. Are you ready? So we're

833
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: gonna give you a Super Bowl sixty, super Bowl sixty

834
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, hot Read. We're gonna have a quick

835
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: discussion now because we have odds out to win the

836
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowl for next year. There is also MVP odds out,

837
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: which I think Brandon has a small opinion on, and

838
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: I mean I've looked at the market. I'll give you

839
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 2: a quick thought there, but Brandon hot Read, super Bowl

840
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: sixty kind of get us started, and then I'll give

841
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: you my opinions. Hot Wrap both day on ice rights

842
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: ice creams that hoy real so tight.

843
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get one pick before we get

844
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: out of here. Right.

845
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: So, last year, at this time, wrapping up the season,

846
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: made a hot read. No, I'll be fair, I made

847
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: two hot reads. I made two hot reads. One of

848
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: them was the Jets never to be mentioned again, did

849
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: not go well. The other one was the Philadelphia Eagles

850
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: twenty two to one from last year at this time

851
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: obviously cash for us today. I think next year's Eagles

852
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: are the San Francisco forty nine ers. That is my

853
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: first futures bet, seventeen to one. You can play that

854
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: at Bette Rivers. It was twenty to one a few

855
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: days ago in a first art going up. I've got

856
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 3: another full article. Just tweeted that out as we're recording

857
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: this live after the Super Bowl, so you can check

858
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: out the whole case there.

859
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 1: But it's kind of two parts. Number one.

860
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: This sounds crazy, but I think Kyle Shanahan is the

861
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: NFC version of Patrick Mahomes. Kyle Shanahan has been in

862
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship four out of eight seasons with the

863
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers and led Matt Ryan and the Falcons offense.

864
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: The NFC Championship the season before.

865
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 3: So five out of the last nine years Shanahan's offense

866
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 3: has been an NFC Championship.

867
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: This year six to eleven. No good.

868
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 3: For the last five years before that, they won at

869
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 3: least twelve games a season. They went sixty two and

870
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 3: thirty three counting the playoffs. For the five years they

871
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: won multiple playoff games and made the NFC Championship, Two

872
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: of the four made the Super Bowl. Shanahan's offense just

873
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 3: hasn't been stopped yet. And like, oh, well, they stopped

874
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: them this year. No, they really didn't.

875
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: They just were hurt all year.

876
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: McCaffrey obviously, that's been the big guy for them, and

877
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: he just didn't play this year. More or less, he

878
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: played four games. He had the long iron stretch to

879
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: start the year. Brandon Ayuk holds out, doesn't get the

880
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: contract early, comes back and then misses ten games. Twenty

881
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: ACL Trent Williams, the stud left tackle, in my opinion,

882
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: is still the best line in the game, misses seven games.

883
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 3: Brock Purdy, George Kittle, Deebo Samuel they all missed multiple games.

884
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the offense.

885
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 3: That's your six dudes. That you're built your entire team around.

886
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 3: That's thirty six missed games, so average of six games

887
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: per those six best players. You're not gonna have a

888
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: great season when that happens. But even then, they were

889
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 3: fourth in yardage there is seventh in yards per carry.

890
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: They were fourth in yards per pass attempt. Even with

891
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 3: all those injuries. That's Shanahan's offense. That's how good they are.

892
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 3: They finished ninth in DVA with all those injuries. Nineth

893
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: isn't seemed great. Ninth was ahead of the Eagles, Ninth

894
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: was ahead of the Rams and the Vikings. Ninth was

895
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: basically tied with the Chiefs. They were still that good

896
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,479
Speaker 3: playing with like a bunch of backups. Jordan Mason comes

897
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: in five point two yards of carry. Isaac Garnde ever

898
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: heard of him before this year? I sure had it.

899
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: Five yards of pop. Juwan Jennings almost a thousand yards,

900
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: is putting up like three touchdown games out of the blue.

901
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 3: And look, brock Purty, mister relevant. He becomes the MVP

902
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: of their team. Now, that's why they win six to eleven.

903
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be the MVP.

904
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: A need of the other guys of the MVP. But

905
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: he had a pretty good year two, So that offense

906
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: is gonna be just fine. They trade debo, don't really care.

907
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: Just fine.

908
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: They have a ton of weapons, more than anybody. They'll

909
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: be back. They'll be good. The other reason I like them,

910
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: and the reason I think that they're like these Eagles.

911
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 3: So the Eagles last year, what were they? They start

912
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: ten and one, they sputter down the stretch. We kind

913
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: of rode them all off this time of the year, like, ah, well, Eagles,

914
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: are they gonna fire? Siriani, is a time for a change,

915
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: as this thing run its course. What ten and one

916
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 3: still mattered? And they were coming off a Super Bowl loss.

917
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 3: So fast forward forty nine ers coming off a Super

918
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: Bowl loss, not exactly ten and one.

919
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: They had all the injuries. And then what's one of

920
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: the big changes.

921
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: The Eagles go out and bring in Vic Fangio, the

922
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 3: old head coach that didn't work out. Bring him back

923
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: to run the defense, same name we knew from before.

924
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: Look what happened, Robert Salah, give the man his flowers,

925
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: bring them back to run the defense. Not great as

926
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: a head coach, but man, the guy can coach some defense.

927
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: And look we just saw tonight big Fangio and Steve

928
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: Spagnolo are failed head coaches who returned to be a

929
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: huge part of championship teams as the defensive coordinator. The

930
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: defense for the Niners missed three games from Nick Bosa

931
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: last year, five from Travai Sward, Ufanga missed ten Drake

932
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: Greenlaw basically missed the whole season. Not quite as bad

933
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: as the offense, but they're gonna get a lot healthier too.

934
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: Before this season they ranked defensively top five in DVAA

935
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: three straight seasons they were better than the offense. Two

936
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: of those seasons you kind of forget how good the

937
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 3: defense was too, and then they lost Robert sala and

938
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: then the lost Tamiko Ryans. Well, Robert Sala is back.

939
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: I think this Niners team is as good as any

940
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: team in the NFC, as good as the Eagles, even

941
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: the one that just won the championship, as good as

942
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 3: the Lions. I think better than them, given the losses

943
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: that team's gonna hit. So if you look at kind

944
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: of where things stand, the Niners end up going six

945
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: and eleven, they were two and six and one score

946
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: games even just flipping those games just that for the season.

947
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: Think with ten and seven, they win the division, they

948
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: make the playoffs, and maybe they're this team still talking

949
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: about today. I think they are next year's Eagles. I

950
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: think they should be priced even with the Eagles and

951
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: with the Lakers, who are both around like plus seven

952
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: plus eight hundred, we're getting double the value here. There

953
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: are six in the odds. They're not totally forgotten. But

954
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: I know it's sexy to look down the board. And

955
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 3: I'll give you another name in a second.

956
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: Here.

957
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: You like to pick the long shot, but really the

958
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: long shot in most cases you're going to like get

959
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 3: to a conference championship game and have to hedge out

960
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 3: of it. The Niners can win this thing. The Niners

961
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: can actually be the team we're talking about next year

962
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: right now, just like we are with the Eagles. So

963
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 3: San Francisco seventeen to one, the first Super Bowl pick

964
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: of the year, that is the twenty twenty six hot red.

965
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: I mean, anything I would have said that would have

966
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: even tried to question the pick. I think you probably

967
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: answered I was going to bring up the debo at

968
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: angle of it. I mean, obviously you have faith and party,

969
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: or you wouldn't be making this bet. I mean, Shanahan

970
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 2: and we know has been in multitude of different big games,

971
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: so he can win it, he can lose it, but

972
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: he can get there. So I'm not I mean Arizona

973
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: the Rams like I don't necessarily know I have like Seahawks,

974
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: like I don't know if I worry about any of

975
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: those teams really, especially with not knowing kind of a

976
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: lot what's going to go on with McVeigh. The rest

977
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: of the division is kind of eh, so I completely

978
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: get it. Do you want to give out your other

979
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: one or do you want me to go through a

980
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: few names myself.

981
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give a couple other ones, can do your names.

982
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 3: We'll wrap this thing up.

983
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: So that's that. Really, that's the hot read.

984
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: The rest of these are more nibbles that I may

985
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: put out there, the long shots to get close. So

986
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: I think we might be ready ready maybe after Sakuan

987
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: third place this year, McCaffrey third place last year, could

988
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 3: we be right to finally get that running back MVP?

989
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 3: If I'm right about the Niners Christian McCaffrey one hundred

990
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: and fifty to one. I just I saw that name

991
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: and I was like, man, I not want to be

992
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: the not running back sky But We've had now two

993
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: years in a row where running back went right up

994
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: into the mix of things, and McCaffrey was basically Saquan.

995
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: Before he was hurt all year.

996
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 3: So I think if the Niners really are that good,

997
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: that number is too long. The other thing is in

998
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 3: the division, I do like another team. I think Seattle's

999
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 3: gonna be really good next year. So maybe that's sis

1000
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: and I'm not like san franas much. To me, I

1001
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: wrote the article about the Niners being the next year's Eagles.

1002
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: I think the Seahawks could be next year's Vikings. That awesome,

1003
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 3: awesome defense that dominates all the way. Team that's like, eh,

1004
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: maybe a five hundred team going into the year, Like

1005
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 3: I think their win total be probably like eight and

1006
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 3: a half something like that. And instead this incredible defense

1007
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's unit really came around second half of the season.

1008
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 3: The problem was they couldn't block him and save their

1009
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: lives and Gino really fell apart late. But okay, let's

1010
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: take the analogy further. We the Vikings have this year

1011
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 3: a failed washout Jets quarterback that had a really great

1012
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: career year with some good play calling. Okay, well, Gino

1013
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 3: Smith is a washout Jets quarterback, and now the Seahawks

1014
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: bringing Clint Kubiak. Clint Kubiak the guy to leave the

1015
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: offense that was leading the Saints offense to start the

1016
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: year when they put up like forty five a couple

1017
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: games in a row to start out, and on like

1018
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: Week three, we're all naming him head coach of any

1019
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 3: team he wanted after that. So I think Seattle could

1020
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: be pretty good next year. They got a lot of weapons,

1021
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 3: they go find some blocking. Hopefully Seattle seventy to one

1022
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl. Now, I think this is

1023
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: probably a hedge sort of option, but I think if

1024
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: they are the Vikings, could Seattle be like fourteen to

1025
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: three and be the one seed win a game and

1026
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: now you're hosting the NFC Championship. I think that is

1027
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: in play. So for me, seventy to one for that

1028
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: possible angle and then the crazy one too. You already

1029
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: chuckled out when I mentioned it before the show. Gino

1030
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 3: Smith one hundred and fifty to one MVP. When I'm

1031
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: looking at MVP right now, I'm just like scrolling down

1032
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: the list.

1033
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: Where are the quarterbacks? Pass fifty to one?

1034
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 3: Who's going to lead a team and can your team

1035
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: win enough for this to be a ridiculous price to me,

1036
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: that's gino. So two Seahawks bets, two Niners bets, and

1037
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: the last one. I don't know if I've even seen

1038
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: Offensive Player of the Year odds. I get my eye

1039
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: on Nico Collins. I love to bet receivers for that award.

1040
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if Diggs will be back, Tank Dell,

1041
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if he'll ever be back. I'm not

1042
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 3: sure what's happening with the injury. Really sad, but Nico

1043
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: was a monster this year, went healthy and then just

1044
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 3: picked up a lot of injuries. I think him and

1045
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: Stroud could have a huge season next year. He's a

1046
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: guy that I could see maybe opening like thirty five

1047
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: forty to one and bet down to more like twenty

1048
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: twenty five by the season. So if you get a

1049
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: price something like that, that's one kind of middle pick

1050
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 3: that I might look to. I have a monster year,

1051
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: especially the Texans have a big year. So Niners main

1052
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 3: hot read Niners and Seahawks angles. Those are two teams

1053
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 3: I'm smelling feeling really good about going the next year.

1054
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: Give me some of the teams you're thinking about your

1055
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: players for next season.

1056
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: I mean, just in terms of the teams, these are

1057
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: the teams that kind of just stood out when I

1058
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: was going up and down the list. So green Bay

1059
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: at eighteen to one, I think is a little bit

1060
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 2: too short, even though I think they're probably the best

1061
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: among the top teams. The favorites right now are Casey

1062
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: and Philly. That it's Baltimore, Buffalo, Detroit, San Francisco than

1063
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: Green Bay just for awareness, that's every team eighteen to

1064
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: one and shorter. So the other teams with value I

1065
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: think are interesting is Houston so twenty seven to one.

1066
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: Considering the Digs injury, the Dell injuries. You talked about

1067
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: Nico getting back the roster, which didn't I think they

1068
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: closed under twelve to one or fifteen to one this season.

1069
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: You're now getting twenty seven to thirty to one, which

1070
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 2: I think is kind of intriguing, especially because that division

1071
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: stinks and you're probably going to get into the playoffs anyway.

1072
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: Thirty feels a little bit long there. What about the Chargers,

1073
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: So I mean, this might be absolutely crazy, but I mean,

1074
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: is there a world that they conquer the chief for

1075
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: the AFC West next year? I mean, we really liked

1076
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: what they had. They do have another game of experience,

1077
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 2: we like Harball, like there's a lot to like about them.

1078
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: I wrote down Minnesota, I really don't think that's an option.

1079
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: I think they're a good number right now at like

1080
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: thirty five to forty to one. The other two crazy

1081
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: long shots to me Atlanta, which is between fifty and

1082
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: sixty to one. I mean that division again kind of stinks.

1083
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: And I know we like Carolina at points Tampa Bay's

1084
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 2: shown promise, but to me, Atlanta still has a super

1085
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: talented roster, and fifty sixty to one is a nice

1086
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: number again getting into the playoffs. And then I have

1087
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 2: to just say this last one, the Jets at one

1088
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty to one, with knowing there's no Rogers

1089
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: and knowing the roster just feels a little long considering

1090
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: New England's still a bit of a mess, Miami's probably

1091
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: gonna get worse before they get better. And yes, Buffalo

1092
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: is Buffalo, but I don't know. One hundred and twenty

1093
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: to one getting out the garbage and if the new

1094
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: stuff is good, feels like it's kind of a nice number.

1095
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: So that's the way I looked at Super Bowl Features.

1096
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: Any comments there before I throw you an MVP neighbor too.

1097
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw. I saw the Jets.

1098
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: They looked a little bit intriguing to me at some

1099
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: similar thoughts. I must admit s Iron Rodgers one hundred

1100
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 3: to one, I was like, run it backack, But I

1101
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: don't think we need to do that one again. I

1102
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: will say with the Falcons, I think I'm less intrigued

1103
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 3: by the sixty to one that you're probably looking like

1104
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: a seattle, like, okay, can you get to the NC

1105
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 3: Championship and hedge? For me, I think I'm more intrigued,

1106
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: maybe by Michael Pennock's MVP. I think I saw that

1107
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: like ninety to one, so I can give you like

1108
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 3: the Falcons, you know, we kind of seen some of

1109
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 3: the sophomore winners in the past, and he's barely even

1110
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: a sophomore. He barely even get to play this year,

1111
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 3: but he made some nice throws. He certainly has the

1112
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: arm for the position, so I could see kind of

1113
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: second year of that offensive system there getting him the

1114
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: reins to me a little more interesting.

1115
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: I think the NFL I don't believe in the Falcons defense.

1116
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: I think this is a problem.

1117
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 3: So I think I'd rather almost rather not believe in

1118
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 3: the defense, and Kinets has to do more stuff that

1119
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 3: way to oput up some MVP numbers. But to me,

1120
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 3: I think that might be an MVP player. But I'm

1121
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 3: curious who your other MVP names are.

1122
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so since twenty eighteen, these are the players to

1123
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: win MVP. It's mahomes Lamar Rogers and now Josh Allen.

1124
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 2: Those are the only players to win MVP. I think

1125
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: what you're really looking at with why I'm telling you

1126
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 2: that is running quarterbacks have now won back to back.

1127
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: When I say running quarterbacks, like it's part of the

1128
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: resume for at the end of the season when you

1129
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: look at their stats and say, holy crap, they had

1130
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: a crazy year. And I think the running part is

1131
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: a part of it. So like if I thought Anthony

1132
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: Richardson could complete more than four out of ten passes, like,

1133
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: he's an interesting concept at one hundred to one, but

1134
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 2: obviously not something I want to look at. So I

1135
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: kind of want to focus on can I grab a

1136
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 2: guy that I think might move like Stafford at fifty

1137
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: to one, Like, do I feel like he's going to

1138
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 2: be there or in a better situation than might make

1139
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: that fifty to one even more intriguing because he's a

1140
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: guy that can sling it, like if he's in the

1141
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: right offense. So the other guy I want to look

1142
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: at is some like running added to the passing. So

1143
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: it's like, do I like Kyler Murray at fifty to one?

1144
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: If I like Arizona because he could definitely put together

1145
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: a season that has a bunch of rushing touchdowns that

1146
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: you know, if they want enough games, his resume could

1147
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: be good enough to win it. So that's one guy

1148
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: who was looking at. I think Jordan Love at like

1149
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: thirty to one is interesting, Like if Green Bay is

1150
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: eighteen to one and they're right in that mix, him

1151
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 2: at thirty to one is intriguing. I can't remember if

1152
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 2: it was you or someone else that parlayed the Packers

1153
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 2: and Loved to win MVP and this season, I think

1154
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: that's an intriguing runback if you like what Green Bay does.

1155
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: There's talks about them getting Davante, so I think that

1156
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: has likes. You also brought up running back. What do

1157
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: you think about Jamior Gibbs at one hunter to one.

1158
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure he can get it longer that at other

1159
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: books as well, But you could not pick a more

1160
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: explosive back. And honestly, yeah, Montgomery stole and vultured and

1161
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: he took a ton of touchdowns away from now Gibbs

1162
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: could be. But Montgomery is getting older, he got hurt

1163
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: this year. Gibbs is obviously the future there. The Lions

1164
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: obviously are going to be very very, you know, high

1165
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: powered on offense still, so I think Gibbs is intriguing

1166
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 2: given what you know. He could put up twenty plus

1167
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: touchdowns and you know, go kind of crazy. So that

1168
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: was the only other thought I had.

1169
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would say I like the Gibbs idea.

1170
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 3: I think it sounds crazy, but I think one hundred

1171
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: to one is not high enough for me to want

1172
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: a better running back. But I think I need even

1173
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: longer than that, just like I really need Outlantae numbers

1174
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: because it's just so unlikely to happen. So I really

1175
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 3: like the Packers angle. Certainly, that's a team that if

1176
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 3: the Packers had been just a little bit further down

1177
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 3: in the odds, I'm probably talking about them instead of

1178
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. Like, definitely a team I was

1179
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: very high on the whole back half of the season.

1180
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: Very high on Jordan.

1181
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: Love to me, you listened off those MVPs, Josh Allen,

1182
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, that's who's winning it, and your

1183
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: takeaway is, okay, so I need someone who can run,

1184
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: who could be like these quarterbacks. My takeaway was, why

1185
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: are we even talking about this? Is just like one

1186
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 3: of the top four quarterbacks at the end.

1187
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: There's nothing to say.

1188
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 3: It's one of the favorites there at the top and

1189
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 3: that's all that happens to win the MVP.

1190
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: Or wait, or it's or it's the Rogers, And I

1191
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: think the Rogers guy is Burrow, right, Like, if Burrow

1192
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: wins enough games this year, he's probably the MVP, So

1193
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: I think, But could Joe Burrow win MVP next year?

1194
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, But of course I would contend. I would contend

1195
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 3: that Joe Burrow is in that mix of quarterbacks, like

1196
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 3: I would put him as good. I would personally put

1197
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: him still in with Lamar and ahead of Lamar personally

1198
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: that's a topic for another day.

1199
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: But like, I think he's in that mix.

1200
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 3: So I think, to me, is okay, you know which

1201
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: the questions that I would have on your picks is

1202
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 3: number one MVP. Can you actually not just put up

1203
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: the stats, but can you put yourself in position to

1204
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: be in that mix of quarterbacks? Jordan Love I think

1205
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: still is a possibility, but I thought he would this

1206
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: year step back CJ.

1207
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: Stroud, he could get there. Maybe Jayden Daniels.

1208
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: I think we have to respect what Jane Daniels did

1209
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: to this Eagles defense, now that we saw the Patrick

1210
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: Mahomes didn't do to this Eagles defense, could he maybe

1211
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: be the guy? Like I think you need not just

1212
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: a guy to be flashy in fun, but can you

1213
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: actually get into the Lamar maybe Burrow Alan Mahomes conversation.

1214
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: That's what you have to be. So I think, like

1215
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, I.

1216
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: Tried the Dak Prescott last year, Dak never getting into

1217
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: that group, Rock Purdy never getting into that group. Jared

1218
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: Goff awesome season, never getting into that group. Sam Darnold

1219
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 3: not a chance. Like maybe you know Gino Smith, the

1220
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: guy I just mentioned a bit ago, not gonna happen,

1221
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 3: Like never going to be in that group of people.

1222
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 3: Maybe you just have to be the MVP. And I

1223
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: think the other thing too, back to Super Bowl picks.

1224
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 3: I have a really hard time looking for a sleeper

1225
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: in the AFC, because in all likelihood you're gonna have

1226
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: to beat two at least of Mahomes, Alan and Lamar

1227
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. And the only reason I can hate

1228
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: too much on your picks is because at least you

1229
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: have Stroud or Herbert on them that maybe the reason

1230
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 3: they won those games is because they joined into that group.

1231
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: I think if you're looking in the AFC and you

1232
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: don't have a guy that you think can get there,

1233
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 3: like maybe you're hiring the Dolphins.

1234
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: No, you're not hiding the Dolphins.

1235
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 3: Tua Tagovailoa is not beating multiple of those quarterbacks in

1236
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

1237
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: It's not happening. You know it, and I know it.

1238
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: Maybe Stroud, maybe Herbert like ask that question before you

1239
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 3: keep going, and otherwise that ticket is dead on arrival.

1240
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: The NFC is where we still don't know. Maybe Jordan

1241
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: Love and Jane Daniels.

1242
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: Maybe we're gonna.

1243
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 3: Get a tier of NFC quarterbacks. But I think that,

1244
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 3: to me is why I was higing the Eagles this year.

1245
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: That's why the forty nine ers, that's where the Packers

1246
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: look good. The Falcons, sure, why not? It's wide open?

1247
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: Could Michael Pennix be a top three NFC quarterback next year.

1248
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 3: I don't think so, but he could. It's possible. He

1249
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 3: can't be in the AFC, can't be like top five.

1250
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 3: It's not happening. So at the end of the day,

1251
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 3: we just talked through an entire super It wasn't just

1252
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: the quarterback.

1253
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: It was the whole team. When it comes down to

1254
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: thickets you want and MVPs you want. Sorry, it's still

1255
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: the quarterback.

1256
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: No, you're right, But I do think part of the

1257
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: bet now is a little bit of movement, right, Like

1258
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: if you can try to predict, I mean, there's going

1259
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: to be a bunch of movement. And I brought up

1260
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: Stafford because I think, you know, the Rams could have

1261
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: a whole new situation next season. I just think there's

1262
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: an opportunity there. I mean, I think there's like a

1263
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: trading aspect when you're this far out, because you know

1264
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 2: you're you're giving the books a little bit of money.

1265
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, super old Super Bowl fifty nine, you

1266
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: got anything else where? We good to go.

1267
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I just want to say thanks thanks to you.

1268
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 3: I've been a lot of fun on all these pods

1269
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: all year. Thanks to David Paine, our producer. We got

1270
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 3: a lot of late nights on these. I know he's

1271
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: got to do the work afterward. Thanks to Matt Mitchell producing,

1272
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: Thanks to Brandon Glaschen who was on a lot of

1273
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 3: these episodes with us this season, and and honestly just

1274
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 3: this thanks for watching listening. Like our job is to

1275
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 3: watch football and then come on at the end of

1276
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 3: a long day of watching football talk about football. There

1277
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: are a lot of folks who would love to make

1278
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: some bets and watch some football and then talk about it.

1279
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: So we appreciate all.

1280
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 3: The listeners, all the followers, all the comments on the YouTube,

1281
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 3: all the likes, all the etc.

1282
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: We love it. We appreciate all listening. And it's been

1283
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: a fun season.

1284
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,439
Speaker 2: You are the best. And honestly, we had a good

1285
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: super Bowl today, so a profitable end too the season.

1286
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 2: I just want to say again, yeah, thank you to

1287
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Speaker 2: everyone for sticking with us all year on these recap episodes,

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Speaker 2: as well as Brandon's Best Bets episodes the six Pack

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Speaker 2: with Stucky and Raybond. So let me just close out

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Speaker 2: here saying if you're not sure what to do now

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Speaker 2: that the NFL is on hiatus, The Action Network podcast

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Speaker 2: will continue to have UFC betting previews each Friday. We'll

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Speaker 2: also have more sports betting coverage during the NFL off season,

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Speaker 2: so keep close on those notifications. You can get alerts

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Speaker 2: when we drop new episodes. If you're looking for basketball

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Speaker 2: betting conversation, we've got our daily NBA betting podcast Buckets.

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Speaker 2: I imagine Brandon will be on that podcast soon to

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Speaker 2: talk all things NBA. Then, Guys, March Madness around the

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Speaker 2: Corner Troops does don't miss out on the Big Bets

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Speaker 2: on Campus podcast with Stucky the rest of the BBOC

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Speaker 2: crew leading up to March Madness by thanks to Brandon

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Speaker 2: Anderson all of our podcast producers on the back end.

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Speaker 2: We will catch you next time here on the Action

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Speaker 2: Network podcast. And it's been a great season. See everybody

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Speaker 2: next year on our road to Super Bowl sixty. See

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Speaker 2: letter guys. Action Network reminds you please gamble responsibly.

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