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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in. Second hour of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton Show begins right now. Thank you for being here

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Speaker 2: with us. You may have seen the news over the

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Speaker 2: weekend of a mass shooting in Cleveland, Texas. As we

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Speaker 2: speak to you right now, the individual who allegedly murdered

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Speaker 2: five people, including a small child, is still on the run.

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Speaker 2: Authorities are trying to find him, they're asking for help.

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Speaker 2: As of two hours ago, the New York Times reporting

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Speaker 2: that they have no leads on this issue. Also interesting

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Speaker 2: to see that there is no mention in this New

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Speaker 2: York Times piece. And you've seen this a lot over

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Speaker 2: the week, and I am sure there's no mention of

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Speaker 2: the fact that the individual here is the alleged mass

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Speaker 2: murderer now is an illegal immigrant. And now I understand

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Speaker 2: that there are going to be people who start to

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Speaker 2: look at all of the different categorizations for mass shootings,

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Speaker 2: and they're going to look at the data and they're

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Speaker 2: going to come to they're going to bring different conclusions

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Speaker 2: to this conversation. Let me just say this, it's also

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Speaker 2: believed that this individual is somebody who has come in

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Speaker 2: and out of the country five times illegally, was what

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Speaker 2: I saw of the weekend. Assuming that they have the

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Speaker 2: right individual in mind, here, we have a poorous border.

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Speaker 2: We have somebody who's in illegal, who should not have

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Speaker 2: been in the United States under US law period. Not

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Speaker 2: an asylum seeker. He's not even trying to gain the

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Speaker 2: process in some way. Just the backstory, and this, by

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Speaker 2: the way I would is that he was shooting a

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Speaker 2: gun in his yard. The neighbor. Neighbor came over and said,

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Speaker 2: can you please stop shooting the gun? We have a

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Speaker 2: baby here that's trying to sleep. It was eleven o'clock

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Speaker 2: at night. And he grabbed the individual here or a pace,

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Speaker 2: grabbed his rifle and then went and tried to murder

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Speaker 2: the entire family. Essentially, it's as horrific a case as

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Speaker 2: you can read about. And Clay here, I just wanted

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Speaker 2: to make sure I confirm this. They're looking for this

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Speaker 2: illegal alien. The New York Times doesn't even reference the

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Speaker 2: fact that he's an illegal, no description of that whatsoever

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Speaker 2: in their most recent update of this. The Daily Mail,

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Speaker 2: a British newspaper, puts out that there's a manhunt for

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Speaker 2: an illegal alien. They kept calling him over the weekend

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Speaker 2: Texas man. That's how he's being described, Texasman. No, he's

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Speaker 2: actually a Mexican national. He is not an American, and

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Speaker 2: he is not in the country legally, and he is

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Speaker 2: not a Texas man. He is an illegal in the

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Speaker 2: state of Texas, and he killed five people. And what

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Speaker 2: we find out is that he has been deported they

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Speaker 2: believe five times already. So now, why is this No,

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Speaker 2: this is a horrific mass shooting. Obviously, that's why first

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Speaker 2: and foremost you're seeing this in the news stories. But

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Speaker 2: why is this so noteworthy? I think from a policy standpoint.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Mayorcist, they head of DHS, was asked

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Speaker 2: about this yesterday. This is clip five. Play this.

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Speaker 3: There's some question about a citizenship. He supposedly had a

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Speaker 3: I guess they referred to it as a consulate card

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Speaker 4: So, Chuck, I won't comment on it because it is

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Speaker 4: an active case.

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Speaker 2: Notice that Chuck Todd first goes out he's here legally. No,

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Speaker 2: that is incorrect, Chuck. If you have a visa to

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Speaker 2: be here for a couple of weeks or whatever, and

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Speaker 2: I used to be legal for a day. No, and

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Speaker 2: then beyond this, Clay Majorcas was asked about whether the

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Speaker 2: border is secure, and this is what I really want

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Speaker 3: What's the definition of secure border?

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Speaker 2: To you? It is in the context in which we

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Speaker 5: It is maximizing the resources that we have available to

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Speaker 2: That is not the definition of a secure border, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is like saying, what's the definition of,

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Speaker 2: you know, of building a house. Well, it's gathering together

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Speaker 2: of But I would just add, he's been deported already.

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Speaker 2: They think five times, Clay, Now, how can anyone talk

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Speaker 5: According to Bill Malugin, to your point, he was deported

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Speaker 5: March of two thousand and nine, September of two thousand

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Speaker 5: eight hundred kidnappings, five thousand assaults in the last decade

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Speaker 5: in Texas alone. Now, all of those data points are important,

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Speaker 5: but for people out there who say, well, there's massive crime,

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Speaker 5: because this is the counter right, there's massive crime, and

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Speaker 5: most of the time illegal immigrants aren't committing crime. That's

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Speaker 5: the counter argument, okay, But the mere fact that these

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Speaker 5: illegal immigrants are here at all is a crime. If

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Speaker 5: that initial crime had been rectified, that is, if they

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Speaker 5: are thousands of people all over the country that would

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Speaker 5: So the rate of crime doesn't matter to me when

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Speaker 5: you want to make that argument. It is the fact

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Speaker 5: that these people should not be here at all in

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Speaker 5: the first place. And you played that clipbuck of mayorcis.

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Speaker 5: If this were a I hate to keep hammering this home.

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Speaker 5: But in the same way that we still don't have

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Speaker 5: all the transgender manifesto in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: We don't have any of it, right, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: still are totally withholding it.

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Speaker 5: It's still totally withholding it. I believe it's been thirty

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Speaker 5: five days now. Today is the thirty fifth day since

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Speaker 5: that shooting would have happened, if my math is correct,

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Speaker 5: and I think it is thirty five days. Yet merror

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Speaker 5: hours after anybody on the right commits a crime of violence,

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Speaker 5: we know everything about them and it is directly attributable

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Speaker 5: to their political beliefs that this act was undertaken. So

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Speaker 5: the fact that this illegal who had been deported five times,

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Speaker 5: how many times do you think that means that he's

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Speaker 5: gone back and forth between Mexico and the United States

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Speaker 5: bought carrying if he's a criminal, who knows how many

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Speaker 2: Just just remember this as you know, some of you

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Speaker 2: are going to be getting, you know, audit notices from

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Speaker 2: the IRS this year. Unfortunately, you know they've got all

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Speaker 2: this additional IRS manpower now that the bid administration's been

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Speaker 2: pushing for. Just remember this that there's laws actually here

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Speaker 2: again illegally a second time, it is a felony. But

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Speaker 2: The federal prosecutors can say, oh, okay, well we don't

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Speaker 2: or not. Now, this is a situation where you'd say,

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Speaker 2: for a second aggravated violation of immigration laws, maybe these

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Speaker 2: five individuals will be alive today. And this is where

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Speaker 2: we really are. I mean, you know, the Democrats always

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Speaker 2: take this position of when it suits them, if it

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Speaker 6: Let's have you know, thirty day waiting periods for guns

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Speaker 6: and fingerprinting, and you know they're just you know, yeah,

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Speaker 6: you got to have like a special lock on the

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Speaker 2: Of course, criminals willbey none of this and laugh at

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Speaker 2: the stupidity of it. But why should we think that

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Speaker 2: border is such a joke, which is obviously the case.

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Speaker 2: I mean, mayorc is even saying the border's secure means

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Speaker 2: just it sounded like an answer that Kamala Harris would give.

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Speaker 2: It just made no sense. It was just words strung together.

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Speaker 5: And as the rate of violent crime continues, it's a

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Speaker 5: really I think important point to hammer home. This is

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Speaker 5: one that everybody's just going to ignore. Well, if immigrants

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Speaker 5: more violence, which they are, even if statistically they are

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Speaker 5: arguing that they aren't the cause of the violence. If

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Speaker 5: the goal is to go after violence everywhere, why aren't

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Speaker 5: we trying to solve it? And I wanted to even

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Speaker 5: tie in here Buck with this. Lori Lightfoot, who has

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Speaker 5: been defeated as the incumbent mayor of Chicago is basically

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Speaker 5: waving the white flag over how many different people now

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Speaker 5: are being sent from Texas to Chicago. Did you see this?

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Speaker 5: She says, they can't handle it anymore.

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Speaker 2: The mayor of New York. That's right, I guess, I

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Speaker 2: guess they're anti Hispanic racists, is really what we're seeing here,

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Speaker 2: because that's what we're always told when we say, hold on,

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Speaker 2: we need a secure border, it's you have some animosity

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Speaker 2: because otherwise makes no sense unless maybe something else is

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Speaker 2: going on here. Clay, no doubt, and it's and it

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Speaker 2: didn't take very many remember a tiny pinprick of the

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Speaker 5: All three of those mayors have effectively tapped out and

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Speaker 5: said we can't handle this. Listen to Lori Lightfoot saying

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Speaker 7: Cut that, I felt like it was important to once

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Speaker 7: again try to engage the governor but also let him

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Speaker 7: know what his policies and practices are doing in cities

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Speaker 7: like Chicago. We are completely tapped out. We have no

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Speaker 7: more space, no more resources, and frankly, we're already in

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Speaker 7: a surge. We've been seeing over last week two to three,

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Speaker 7: two to one hundred plus people coming to Chicago every

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Speaker 7: single day. We call them walk ins because they're not

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Speaker 7: coming on buses, but they are coming on planes from

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Speaker 7: like they're getting screen at the border. We've seen people

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Speaker 7: coming with serious medical issues.

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Speaker 2: Clay hold on a second. Shouldn't shouldn't America? I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is the Democrat position. If you're a good person,

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Speaker 2: your position as a Democrat who wants to be in

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Speaker 2: good standing these days must be that we don't check anybody.

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Speaker 2: Anybody can come here for any reason whatsoever, and we

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Speaker 2: owe to them free housing, free food, free healthcare. If

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Speaker 2: all of the world's you know, heart surgery patients want

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Speaker 2: to show up in America and demand taxpayer funded cardiac surgery,

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Speaker 2: to not give them, that is racist. I just I

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Speaker 2: think everyone needs to understand this is where we're actually

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Speaker 2: seeing the rubber meet the road.

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Speaker 5: Not only that, how about blaming the governor of a

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Speaker 5: state for immigration related issues and not.

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Speaker 2: The president of the United States.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Greg Abbott doesn't have control of the entire

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Speaker 5: federal government apparatus. Note what's going on here. It's Greg

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Speaker 5: That is three of the four biggest bank collapses in

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Speaker 2: Clay, It's all fine. Biden is in charge and Janet

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Speaker 2: None of this is Oh my gosh, how could this

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Speaker 2: that has not changed at all. No one knows what's

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. You remember that there was a leak of

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Speaker 2: complete farce of abortion as a constitutional right. Whatever one

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Speaker 2: say things that we all know are untrue, but if

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Speaker 2: But the leak of the Supreme Court decision was a

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting that over the weekend, Justice Samuel Alito,

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Speaker 2: This was done to pressure Supreme Court justices to change

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Speaker 2: That's and as we know, there was a guy who

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's such a good question. Here's the quote directly

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Speaker 2: I I don't because he talks in this.

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Speaker 5: I would reject that on some level because there are

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Speaker 2: a it's a long term problem for them, Whereas at

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Speaker 2: least with some of the other cases, they could have

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Speaker 2: felt like, we'll get another bite at the apple, right,

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Speaker 2: We'll find another way, you know, if whether it's one

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Speaker 2: of the huge, the biggest case. If O Berger Fella

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Speaker 2: gone in the other direction, let's just say, theoretically, they

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Speaker 2: would have brought another case and they would have had another,

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Speaker 2: you know, another chance. Roe. For them, I feel like

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Speaker 2: was they knew they were never going to get this again,

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Speaker 2: at least not any time, not anytime soon. So it

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Speaker 2: was a little bit higher, higher stakes for them. Two things,

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Speaker 2: I think the stakes.

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Speaker 5: Are still unfortunately very high because in a five to

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Speaker 5: four decision, which is why I said Justice Robert should

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Speaker 5: have joined it, there still is an incentive to kill

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Speaker 5: a justice, especially while Joe Biden is president and he

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Speaker 5: has control of the Senate. And I hate to even

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Speaker 5: have to mention that, but Alito hen said it and

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Speaker 5: talks about it, and he says, basically buck in here

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Speaker 5: that they have such severe protection now that they are

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Speaker 5: driving around basically in tanks and they're not supposed to

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Speaker 5: they're not supposed to go places without their security. And

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Speaker 5: maybe that has gone on and on, but I don't

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Speaker 5: remember the security being that is significant. Second part of this,

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Speaker 5: on the Alito, there aren't actually that many people who

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Speaker 5: could be suspects, and that's the part that's frustrating about

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Speaker 5: the court not being able to find the leaker. In theory,

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Speaker 5: if you are correct that it is a somebody with

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Speaker 5: left wing sympathies, that narrows down the last even further.

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Speaker 5: Let's say their buck are one hundred people who might

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Speaker 5: have had access to this.

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Speaker 2: It's probably a lot less than that, but we'll say.

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Speaker 5: Let's say it's a hundred, Like even a hundred is

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Speaker 5: a relatively if you can immediately cut almost half of

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Speaker 5: those people out, because the last thing they want to

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Speaker 5: do is put an assassination target on a conservative judge

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Speaker 5: that narrows it down to fifty if you then can

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Speaker 5: take out full time employees, because it feels to me

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Speaker 5: like it's unlikely to have been someone who has been

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Speaker 5: there for years and years again, because there have been

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Speaker 5: contentious cases in the past, none of this is leaked.

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Speaker 2: I think you end up with.

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Speaker 5: Like fourteen clerks who are effectively the targets here. And

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Speaker 5: how can you not narrow it down and figure out

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Speaker 5: who those people are?

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Speaker 2: I got some I got some old CIA buddies who

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Speaker 2: you put them on the put them on the poll,

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Speaker 2: put them on the polygraph. You'll figure out who did what,

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Speaker 2: I think real fast here. If they really wanted to

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Speaker 2: know that's what they could find. They could find this

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Speaker 2: out pretty pretty quickly. And and I think that at

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Speaker 2: some level, even for Aldo, there may be this sense

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Speaker 2: of what is you know, you want justice and you

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Speaker 2: want it to be known, but does it also then

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Speaker 2: just take it into another realm where it's clear this

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Speaker 2: was a left wing Democrat trying to subvert and really

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Speaker 2: destroy the Court's legitimacy. Right, I mean a Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: that would change a decision based upon threats against the

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Speaker 2: persons in the Supreme Court. The actual justices is no

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Speaker 2: longer an institution that anybody would trust or have any

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Speaker 2: faith in whatsoever. Right, it's a joke at that point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a sad joke. So I just wonder

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Speaker 2: if if they really feel like I'm talking about now,

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Speaker 2: the people that work in the Supreme Court, would they

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Speaker 2: rather just kind of let it go at this point

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Speaker 2: because they don't want you know, do you think they

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Speaker 2: all want to know? We all know it's a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: We all know it's someone to voter for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: We all know it's a leftist. We all know it's

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Speaker 2: someone the things you should have borught babies for all

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Speaker 2: nine months of a pregnancy, because that's a great thing

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Speaker 2: to do. We all know that. But if it's a person,

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Speaker 2: and it's clear, and there's no more plausible deniability of

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Speaker 2: the political attempt here to encourage a hit on a

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court justice from one side of the political aisle,

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Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying, Like, I'm just not sure

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Speaker 2: that they all even really want to know. I think

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Speaker 2: we should. I think we should want to know, But

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Speaker 2: I'm saying I don't think they want to.

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Speaker 5: Know, even for the Court. Because we talked about it.

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Speaker 5: I didn't think that it was talked about enough, and

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Speaker 5: Alito directly addresses it. This was effectively a call to

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Speaker 5: arms and a suggestion that you commit an assassination. Because

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Speaker 5: until and this is why I said, as soon as

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Speaker 5: the league came out, they needed to go ahead and

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Speaker 5: release this opinion because until and I think a lot

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Speaker 5: of people still don't know this, Until the opinion is released,

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Speaker 5: the law doesn't change. So effectively, this leaker provided six

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Speaker 5: weeks for someone to try to kill a justice. And

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Speaker 5: if you think, oh, that's an exaggeration, somebody flew a

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Speaker 5: cross count, showed up outside of Brett Kavanaugh's house to

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Speaker 5: try to kill a justice, and unfortunately Buck that incentive

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Speaker 5: is still there because think about what would happen if

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Speaker 5: a justice got assassinated on the right in this country.

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden right now would get to nominate a replacement,

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Speaker 5: and the United States Senate would seat that replacement, presuming

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Speaker 5: they could somehow get Dianne Feinstein and get get her

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Speaker 5: back onto the on the Capitol Hill to be able

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Speaker 5: to push this through. So not only is there a

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Speaker 5: direct incentive for assassination, Democrats would benefit because you think

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden would say, oh, I'm going to refuse to

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Speaker 5: seat someone.

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Speaker 2: I think he would.

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Speaker 5: Still seat someone, and then the law on Dobbs would

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Speaker 5: theoretically flip back. Well, they would need to have a case,

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Speaker 5: they would need to have, which they would easily do.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you they would if I mean, if they

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Speaker 5: federal law again after making abortion not federal law within

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Speaker 5: a couple of year. I mean, you're right, they could

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Speaker 5: do it, but I mean it just would make this

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Speaker 5: the Supreme Court looks like an absolute political hatchet job

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Speaker 5: at that. Do you think the left would say, Nope,

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Speaker 5: they would do it. Yeah, they would do it. They could,

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Speaker 5: I think, which is yeah, which is why I hammered home.

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Speaker 5: And I'm still disappointed he didn't do it as soon

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Speaker 5: as he knew it was five to four. To me,

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Speaker 5: the biggest failure of John Roberts regime is he should

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Speaker 5: have signed on and made it six.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's he's John Roberts has made it a point

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Speaker 2: to I would argue, at the expense of law, courage

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Speaker 2: and decency, protect the institution of the Supreme Court as

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Speaker 2: something that is in itself its own good right. To

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Speaker 2: protect the institutional integrity of the Court, and in doing so,

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Speaker 2: he has actually played into left his hands and just

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Speaker 2: encourage the mob of lunatics. So yes, I think he's

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 5: Honestly actually done buck the opposite of what he claims

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Speaker 5: by not making it sixty three. Because unfortunately, the situation

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Speaker 5: that I just laid out killing a Supreme Court justice,

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Speaker 5: replacing them and immediately getting a case where you could

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Speaker 5: overturn Dobbs and go back to Roby Wade, I think

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Speaker 5: what happen Roberts has been feeding the crocodile of the

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Speaker 5: left and hoping it will eat him last.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that's going to save him. I

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Speaker 2: really don't.

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Speaker 5: But if you truly cared about the legitimacy of the court,

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Speaker 5: it's the saddest and most pathetic decision of his career

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Speaker 5: that he didn't make at six ' three because by

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Speaker 5: not doing so, he actually kept the target on the

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Speaker 5: Supreme Court. And that's sad. But Alito's discussion really an

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Speaker 5: important one. I'd encourage you guys to all go read

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Speaker 5: was going to ask you, Yeah, I've never been invited.

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Speaker 5: Would you go if you were invited?

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Speaker 2: I was. I was there my first ever year working

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Speaker 2: was it? Likes? It stinks, It's not fun, Like, I

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Speaker 2: Obama obviously spoke. I didn't even Just so you know,

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Speaker 2: That's what I did, So I bounced.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say I wouldn't go, because inevitably

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Speaker 2: What a huge hypocrite Klay Travis is.

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Speaker 5: I've never been invited, so I never have had to

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Speaker 5: make the choice of whether or not I would go.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know when I would be invited who

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Speaker 5: the president might be, right.

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Speaker 2: So I wasn't invited, like because I was cool. Are

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Speaker 2: we had a table basically yeah, I think and and

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Speaker 2: like people didn't want to go, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: because a lot of them lived in you know, other

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Speaker 2: check it out. I've never been back since, never wanted

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Speaker 2: to go back since it's just like, first of all,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a Galla guy in general. I'll just say

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Speaker 2: now that doesn't mean I'll never go to Galas, so

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Speaker 2: don't you know, don't hold me to that. But generally speaking,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a big gallop person. But also there's something

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Speaker 2: very weird. You know. They used to call it nerd

655
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Speaker 2: prom like, oh it's nerd prom this pseudo self deprecation.

656
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Speaker 2: They don't think they're nerds. They think they're really cool

657
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Speaker 2: and they think what they're doing is really important and

658
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Speaker 2: they're all in the cool kid club. And if you're

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Speaker 2: there as a conservative, you're like a you're like a

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Speaker 2: you know, a zoo animal. To them, They're like, what

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Speaker 2: are you doing here? So it's not good.

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Speaker 5: I I got picked on by my wife, as I

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Speaker 5: usually do, because I did not dress well for the

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Speaker 5: wedding we went to this weekend, so I'm sure that

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Speaker 5: I would dress poorly for the White House Correspondence the

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Speaker 5: last time? Did you no, no, no flip flops, no

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Speaker 5: flip flops.

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Speaker 2: But I did not wear a suit first.

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Speaker 5: I was one hundred and eighty degrees in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 5: so and it was an afternoon wedding, and I was like,

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Speaker 5: somebody's gonna die if you have to wear a suit coat.

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Speaker 2: So this is going on?

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Speaker 5: Is this the first time Biden has spoken at the

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Speaker 5: White House Correspondence Center?

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Speaker 2: Did he speak last year?

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Speaker 5: They were so terrified of COVID that I can't even

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Speaker 5: keep up with when they had it. When they didn't,

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Speaker 5: I know, they didn't have it for a couple of

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Speaker 5: years basically. And then Fauci got caught. Of course, Fauci's there.

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Speaker 5: Fauci got caught going to the like the pre and

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Speaker 5: post parties or whatever. After making did he make a

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Speaker 5: big deal about the fact that he wasn't going to

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Speaker 5: go to the White House Correspondence Center? Because it wasn't safe,

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Speaker 5: and then they caught him at like one of the

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Speaker 5: big pre.

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Speaker 2: Uh yes correct, yes, that was one of the most

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Speaker 2: classic Fauci moments of all time. You know, he wants

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Speaker 2: to be with the cool kids, but also wants the

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Speaker 2: virtue signal that the unwashed masses who attend the White

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Speaker 2: House correspondence dinner main events, they're putting your grandmother at risk.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Fauci going a little side party doing

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Speaker 2: the macarena. No problems with that one.

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Speaker 5: So I'll play a couple of these because I do

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Speaker 5: think you should at least know what they're saying. First

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Speaker 5: of all, Biden just can't talk. I mean, and this

696
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Speaker 5: is not getting any better. Here he is talking about

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Speaker 5: how he brought home wrongful detainees from Ronda.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 4: We've been able to bring home dozens of hostages and

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Speaker 4: wrongfully detainee to wrongful detainees in Afghanistan, Burma, Haiti, rand Ronda, Venezuela,

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Speaker 4: cross West Africa, around the world.

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Speaker 5: He's supposed to be Rwanda that he's saying there, I

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Speaker 5: guess maybe I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 5: He also then talked about Tucker Carlson being forced out

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Speaker 5: here is cut twenty six.

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Speaker 4: We really haven't record to be proud of vaccinated the

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Speaker 4: nation transformed the economy or historic legilent of victories and

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Speaker 4: midterm results. But the job isn't finished. I mean it

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Speaker 4: is finished.

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Speaker 2: For Tucker Carlson. What do you mean about it like that?

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Speaker 4: Like, do you think that's not reasonable?

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Speaker 2: Give me a break?

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Speaker 5: First of all, that's not even really funny in any way.

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Speaker 5: And I just I come back to on the Tucker front, Buck,

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Speaker 5: I think Tucker is going to be far more powerful

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Speaker 5: as a independent voice in some way than he was

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Speaker 5: as an employee at Fox News. So, but the reaction

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Speaker 5: was as if Biden had said something really interesting. If

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Speaker 5: I'm Tucker Carlson, I love that. I want to play

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Speaker 5: that because that room reacting as they did to him.

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Speaker 2: It's not his audience. It actually helps him. I know

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Speaker 2: it's kind of funny, but or you know, it's funny

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Speaker 2: to think about this, but if you had a if

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Speaker 2: you had a Republican president who made a joke about

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Speaker 2: you know, Rachel Matta who just got fired, they'd be like,

727
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Speaker 2: job loss isn't funny? Like people depend on that show,

728
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Speaker 2: like they'd all they have no sense of humor about themselves.

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Speaker 2: They can only make jokes about the other side, which

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Speaker 2: is is always the case. But I thought this was

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Speaker 2: interesting too, where he even made a joke Clay about

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Speaker 2: how he doesn't take questions from uh doesn't take questions

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Speaker 2: from the press? Here do we have twenty four? Play

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Speaker 2: twenty four?

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Speaker 4: A lot of ways this dinner sums up my first

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Speaker 4: two years in office. I'll talk for ten minutes, take

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Speaker 4: zero questions, and cheerfully walk away.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they just they just say this stuff

739
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Speaker 2: and it's like ha ha ha, and they don't do

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Speaker 2: their they're all frauds in that room, this White House

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Speaker 2: Correspondents Association. We're here to, you know, do journalism. That

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Speaker 2: is a gathering of regime media. That is all it is. There.

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Speaker 2: There is no I mean, there are you know, I

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Speaker 2: know there are a couple of Fox people there, but

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Speaker 2: you know, it's ninety eight percent Biden flax in a

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Speaker 2: room and they're making jokes about how the whole thing

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Speaker 2: is a fraud. Anyway. I just you know, it's just

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Speaker 2: not good. It's just not the it's the whole notion

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Speaker 2: too of this, like well, like we should all get

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Speaker 2: together and like, they don't speak truth to the to

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Speaker 2: the White House, they don't speak truth to Democrats, so

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Speaker 2: why even go through the pretense.

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Speaker 5: Well, what's also interesting is it's not even a joke.

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Speaker 5: That is what he's doing. And I'm sure you saw

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Speaker 5: the Politico piece where they said, yeah, we basically only

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Speaker 5: have the window of ten to four ten am to

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Speaker 5: four pm to be able to do any Biden events.

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Speaker 5: The fact that Biden was up after dark is almost

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Speaker 5: unheard of. Can you imagine the leader of the free

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Speaker 5: world in an article inside of the Politico, which is

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Speaker 5: usually very deffa deferential in many ways to parties in power.

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Speaker 5: They don't schedule events in the morning until ten, and

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Speaker 5: they don't do events after four in the evening. By

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Speaker 5: and large, they have a six hour window where they

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Speaker 5: can do things like how are we in a place

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Speaker 5: where the president is in such enfeebled condition that they

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Speaker 5: almost can't even trot him out.

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Speaker 2: To do anything.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is even for Democrats. I feel like

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Speaker 5: justifying Biden all the way up until November of twenty

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Speaker 5: four is going to become virtually impossible because every time

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Speaker 5: we see him speak, it's almost like Buck he's on

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Speaker 5: some sort of speed when he's reading, and he's trying

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Speaker 5: to go as fast as he can and just get

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Speaker 5: out of there.

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Speaker 2: Is But this is a little bit like your argument

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Speaker 2: about the Supreme Court switching it back, which I think

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Speaker 2: is compelling. I don't think. I don't think you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: They don't care, right, I mean, Biden is as bement effect,

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Speaker 2: it's betterment effect. They don't care. He's a Democrat. They'll

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Speaker 2: get what they want. Their team's in power. Democracy is

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Speaker 2: under threat, right, all this stuff, and ultimately they don't

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Speaker 2: expect that Joe Biden is anything other than what he is.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think it really matters to them. You know,

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Speaker 2: Ron McDaniel just put out from the RNC. Ron mcdemill

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Speaker 2: just put out that it turns out in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two they did an RNC autopsy, so to speak, and

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Speaker 2: we didn't win in key races independent voters. Yeah. Now

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Speaker 2: we try to talk about this year. We discuss it

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Speaker 2: with everybody, say, hey, guys, got to win independence if

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Speaker 2: you want to win, and you know you hear a

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Speaker 2: lot of voices out there and live different pundits and stuff. No,

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Speaker 2: we're just gonna just base turnout, it's not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna work, so got to see.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's my argument for all the Trump people out there.

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Speaker 5: I want you all to be thinking, what is going

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Speaker 5: to change in twenty twenty four that is going to

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Speaker 5: make Trump win? And I'm eighty one million people showed

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Speaker 5: up for Biden, seventy five million showed up for Trump,

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Speaker 5: and you could be.

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Speaker 2: Screaming at your phone. They don't count. They cheated. Do

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Speaker 2: you think they're not gonna cheat in twenty four?

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Speaker 5: Do you think they're gonna be like, oh, well, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're not gonna run the same game plan that already

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Speaker 5: won us in twenty twenty. They're gonna do everything they

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Speaker 5: can to rig the election. Trump won in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 5: a very close race because he won independent voters. The

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Speaker 5: last time that Republicans won independent voters in an election's

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Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. Okay, how and what has to change to

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Speaker 5: win independent voters in twenty twenty four. That's the whole game.

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Speaker 5: Everybody can sit around and talk about un till we're

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Speaker 5: blue in the face about everything. Independent voters are going

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Speaker 5: to decide this election. Do you think that Trump is

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Speaker 5: doing a better job question for everybody out there talking

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Speaker 5: to independent voters now than he was in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting, there's some there's some I'm seeing some

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Speaker 2: analysis out there that when Trump attacks DeSantis from the

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Speaker 2: left on issues, which he's done with Disney and a

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Speaker 2: few other things, that that's actually a move toward the

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Speaker 2: center for independence. Now I have seen this, which is maybe,

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Speaker 2: by the way, maybe that answer is yes, Well, I

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Speaker 2: concern I was just gonna say, Clay on the on

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Speaker 2: the federal abortion issue, for example, I do think and

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Speaker 2: this is going to be a longer, more difficult conversation.

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Speaker 2: It is not because I've looked at the data and

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Speaker 2: the numbers of this two I know you have. It

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Speaker 2: is going to be very difficult for Republicans to win

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Speaker 2: if they take a maximalist position on protecting life. In

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Speaker 2: a lot of places, It's going to be very difficult

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Speaker 2: to win. That's not a comment on the morality of it.

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Speaker 2: Everyone knows how I feel about the life issue. But

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Speaker 2: if you want to win and prevent Democrats from running

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Speaker 2: the table and then passing extreme abortion stuff, which is

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Speaker 2: what they want to do in a lot of these states.

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Speaker 2: So Trump on that issue, coming at to Santus from

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Speaker 2: the left, saying that abortion should be a state's issue,

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Speaker 2: not a federal issue. I do think that there's a

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Speaker 2: basis for a strong basis for saying, for a Republican

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Speaker 2: who wants to win nationally in twenty twenty four, leaving

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Speaker 2: it to the states and not taking up that issue.

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Speaker 2: And this could be other issues as well as a

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Speaker 2: federal one. Maybe smart politics, whatever one thinks of the

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Speaker 2: morality of it.

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Speaker 5: I think it's one hundred percent smart politics. And my

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Speaker 5: concern and this is what we're going to keep hammering

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Speaker 5: over the next whatever it is eighteen months till the election.

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Speaker 5: How many people are willing to change their vote. I

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Speaker 5: think the way Trump is going to win is actually

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Speaker 5: by Biden not having enough enthusiasm right, because a lot

850
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Speaker 5: of people are less likely to say, oh, I voted

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Speaker 5: for Biden in twenty twenty I was wrong, I'm going

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Speaker 5: to flip back to Trump in twenty twenty four. I

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Speaker 5: think they're more likely buck to just not show up.

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Speaker 5: I think that everyone what can I think people not

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Speaker 5: be as fired up. I think that Trump is the

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Speaker 5: is the get out the vote effort for the Democrats.

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Speaker 5: In their minds, that's all they have to do. So

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Speaker 5: if it's true, they think, yeah, if it's true. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I know this from Democrats. You can read, read and

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Speaker 5: listen to what they're saying. That is their plan is

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Speaker 5: that as long as it's Trump, they feel like they'll

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Speaker 5: you know, it's interesting too. But the whole finish the

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Speaker 5: job thing, I think that that's that's a double on Tom.

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Speaker 5: It's a you know, it's sort of two meetings.

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Speaker 2: It is finish the job of being Biden, you know,

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