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Speaker 1: It's time to do Hey, what's up everybody? It's uh time,

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Speaker 1: It is time. UFC three twelve three one two is

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Speaker 1: a Friday morning. Hi everyone you'r UFC three twelve pregame

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Speaker 1: We'll don't get to this in just a second at

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Speaker 1: Jose Quervo'. My name is Luke Thomas. This is the return. Yeah. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the iceman, Chuck Minton, off from on, crowned from crown,

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Speaker 1: and the hat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that's everything these days. I don't know, all right,

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Speaker 1: Course this fucking and thank you to Quervo Quervo. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's remind everybody here if we can. Morning Combats UFC

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Speaker 1: at Quervo. Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila

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Speaker 1: that invented tequila. And with that, lady, that is a

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Speaker 1: good time to enjoy it. I think now is a

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Speaker 1: very good time to enjoy it. So do you have

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Speaker 1: brothers behind your yeah, uh quervo and friends over at

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Speaker 1: Let me let me pour this in here real quickly

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Speaker 2: Don't you pour some sugar on chuck in the name

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Speaker 2: of love? All right? You know what I mean? Do

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Speaker 2: you know that was a song about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, it's important you do fight analysis that

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Speaker 2: And you get lubed up. All right, No abos Britos

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Speaker 2: after that.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be racist in advance.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Dutchman, here.

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Speaker 1: We go, bajo a'l sand thro You got a toast here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Well, that is absolutely delicioso. If I myself smooth there, wow,

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Speaker 3: Let's see if I can have coherent thoughts as we

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Speaker 1: Before things started, how are you doing? Why don't you

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Speaker 1: give the viewers an update? We haven't had you. What

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Speaker 3: Man, I've been trying to I was trying to put

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Speaker 3: that together. I think I think it's before September because

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Speaker 3: I went to that sphere card and I feel like

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Speaker 4: I know exactly when it was. It was it was

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Speaker 4: just after d DP.

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Speaker 1: Is he You know what for a guy who was

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Speaker 5: I remember telling Chuck that I hate CDP by sub

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Speaker 5: over three and a half at plus twenty Ember.

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Speaker 3: That is right, That's how That's how you connect nowadays. Right,

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Speaker 3: it's through like your betting, like your betting patterns and

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Speaker 2: It's that look at that that namer they got for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been well, hold on, it's been him and Jed.

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Speaker 2: Who have we Andreas Hale joined us Andreas by the

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Speaker 3: Haw Yeah, that's right now, I preceded all these guys.

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Speaker 2: They while they like themselves, some jed. They were like,

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Speaker 1: That is great, life is great. But then I left

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Speaker 1: But we are here to talk about UFC three twelve,

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Speaker 1: So do us a favor. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: We don't have any merch updates yet BC.

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Speaker 2: Right, no, and I'm sorry for coughing. I poured two

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Speaker 3: Know what, but they went down smooth, very smooth. That

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Speaker 1: And of course, yeah, big, big thanks to our friends

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Speaker 1: at Corvo for sponsoring this and helping us get ready

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Speaker 2: One disclaimer though, yes, please, I know Chuck hasn't done

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Speaker 1: See, we got to get the racism and the sexism upfront. Bro,

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Speaker 1: Let's just get it up front, all right.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's happier for a Strickland card than BC Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to you FC three twelve. Now we've

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Speaker 1: So now you've got to weigh in.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this card is that great, but I

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Speaker 2: It's nubs.

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Speaker 3: Where are you after the first two fights you're talking about?

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe he might be a little hard for Alison,

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Speaker 3: It's almost like I think Eric Nixon said, it's almost

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Speaker 2: As a as a famous person, one said, what are

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: That's like you got he's gonna have to bring he's

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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised anymore.

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Speaker 2: That was the most babyface he was.

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Speaker 2: See his biggest imbecile that says there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this is what is interesting about this. They

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Speaker 2: Well, they did put the dolly throwing in the promotional

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Speaker 1: Act of violence. I'm not gonna treat words like violence.

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Speaker 1: you don't like what Bryce Mitchell said, come watch them

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Speaker 2: Oh of course, right, I mean I just said yesterday

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Speaker 1: Who do you think you get the hopefully Oscar Willis?

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Speaker 3: And it's funny because you know, the Bryce Mitchell stuff

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Speaker 3: we're getting there. Well, I mean in the UFC's era, right, Like.

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Speaker 1: My Lord at any event, Well that's what he would.

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Speaker 3: About what is this Because people make the pro wrestling

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. I hadn't thought of it that way.

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Speaker 2: But I mean they kind of embraced Strickland and DDP

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Speaker 1: So then let's go to that direction.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like DDP and Strickland have a rivalry

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Speaker 2: I think they're just opponents. I think the rivalry here

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Speaker 3: But I felt fairly definitive when I watched it the

439
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,800
Speaker 3: DDP one. But I do think that there, you know,

440
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,159
Speaker 3: if you're Strickland, I think he had a good He

441
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,520
Speaker 3: had a good uh you know, it's a good thing

442
00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,080
Speaker 3: to have, right, like to say like I won for

443
00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 3: sure and all that stuff to motivate him. But yeah,

444
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,240
Speaker 3: I mean it was close enough.

445
00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,359
Speaker 2: I don't think Strickland did enough in the championship rowns.

446
00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,679
Speaker 2: I think he was you know, I mean the cut mattered.

447
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,000
Speaker 2: Even if the cut didn't wasn't.

448
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,400
Speaker 3: Caused by I could see the pattern.

449
00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,160
Speaker 2: But I do wonder be hindsight how whether the judge

450
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,439
Speaker 2: or a lot of us were over affected by the blood.

451
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 2: It did come from ahead, but but the problem was

452
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 2: DP kept reopening and making it more of a more

453
00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 2: of an issue. I just think DDP close stronger. He

454
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,600
Speaker 2: deserved to win. It's also interesting this week that ddps.

455
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 2: I mean he let off the press conference basically saying

456
00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 2: I would have preferred that this was chimayav here, but

457
00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 2: if it's Strickland, let's do it again the seeds. Yeah,

458
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,439
Speaker 2: I like that right there. So I mean it is

459
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 2: a split decision went over Coasta enough for Strickland to

460
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,480
Speaker 2: have gotten back here. Either way, he's here. I think

461
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,920
Speaker 2: he fought well in the first fight. I think he

462
00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 2: has an argument to have won it. But he's the

463
00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,200
Speaker 2: one that has to make the changes in this rematch

464
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 2: to make sure the judges are going to raise his

465
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 2: arm because and give him the win that because it

466
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,880
Speaker 2: was close last time. But do you think the addition

467
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,360
Speaker 2: of Poton in this corner? And I forgot that Poton

468
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 2: did unofficially sit in his corner in the first fight

469
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 2: in Toronto. But now assuming that he's part in some form,

470
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 2: even if it's just in the locker room beforehand, even

471
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 2: if it's just fighting night in the between rounds, are

472
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 2: we going to see a more offensive Strickland that is

473
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 2: looking yes for the knockout, but really just to leave that.

474
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,199
Speaker 3: I do think so. I think so that seemed to

475
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 3: be kind of the one thing that he could stay

476
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 3: focused on. Was that like that he needed to bring it,

477
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 3: especially late. You know, he couldn't let up all that

478
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 3: sort of thing. I think we will see that. It

479
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 3: was interesting to me that Eric NICKXCK, his coach, had

480
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 3: said one of the one of the key things in

481
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 3: camp was to keep steering him off the idea that

482
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 3: he won that fight. That keeps saying to him, you lost, man,

483
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,880
Speaker 3: you lost the fight. DP won that fight because he

484
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 3: his default is back I won. And they didn't want

485
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: to invite some kind of complacency to go in there

486
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: and do the exact same thing. They wanted to raise

487
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 3: him that ten percent or whatever they thought they could

488
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,399
Speaker 3: psychologically to get over that hump.

489
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 1: Where is DDP right now? With the fan base, with

490
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 1: the sport he He came into the media day with

491
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 1: a Trump I think was something I'm gonna paraphrase, something

492
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 1: to the effect of Trump prefers or likes winners or champion.

493
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 2: Champions, championship, shot at Strickland.

494
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 1: Obviously shot out Strickland. You know, I don't think he

495
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,679
Speaker 1: really cares so much about domestic US politics. Yeah, he

496
00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 1: was needling him.

497
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,680
Speaker 3: He's a low he very good at that is low key.

498
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 1: He is low Key a world class hater. He's a

499
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: world class fighter and a world class hater. I know

500
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 1: a world class hater when I see one. He is

501
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: excellent at it. But more than that, this, if he wins,

502
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: this will be a second title defense. He would tire

503
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: Rich Franklin with two middleweight title defenses. If he does that,

504
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: that's actually pretty important. He beat is either with something

505
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 1: of a generational turn here a rival getting a second

506
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 1: shot at him. That's when you know you're doing something special. Yeah,

507
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 1: is he ready to be a big star in the UFC?

508
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: It's an interesting question.

509
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 3: Don't you sometimes think that this comes from like how

510
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: they started, Because remember when he got that Whitaker fight,

511
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 3: people thought, oh, he just bit off more than he

512
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 3: could choose.

513
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 2: This is this is where it's a star cashing him

514
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: out in some weird way.

515
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 3: It felt like, yeah, that's what it felt like to

516
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: me too, And I felt like a lot of the

517
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 3: fan base or maybe the perception around that fight was

518
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,959
Speaker 3: this is where everything cools down. Instead, he wins and

519
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 3: that momentum switches, but yet an attitude towards him remains

520
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 3: sort of like, well, I don't know if he belongs there.

521
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 3: It's really strange, and so with each fight he keeps

522
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 3: like kind of pounding home that he's legit. And I

523
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 3: think if he makes it emphatic over Sean Strickland, especially

524
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: with a guy like Shemaiah possibly waiting in the wings,

525
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: who's definitely looks like a bulldozer, I think he could be,

526
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 3: you know, because I think at that point you'd be like, dude,

527
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: this fight is going to be bananas, you know, like

528
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 3: just like contemplating, you know, his kind of downhill style,

529
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 3: no footwork, get rid of the footwork, just going. So

530
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 3: he was kidding, I know, I know.

531
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: Just as important is he in your eyes, the real

532
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 2: UFC African Champion.

533
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 3: I mean, he's from South Africa, so.

534
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: We need we need an alarm in here. Every time

535
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: BC does like a racist joke, and like the siren.

536
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 3: It's not even a racist joke. He's setting setting the

537
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 3: rest of us.

538
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: Su I like to I like to falsely accuse him

539
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: of racism to It's like lighting a little bomb and

540
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 1: handed it to you.

541
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 2: Here you go, fella, Oh yeah, I mean, Luke, it's

542
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: interesting here about this rematch.

543
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: It's interesting, Okay, I can see territory to you if

544
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: or sober if you're not I can carry this? Would

545
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: you like going to carry this?

546
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: I was just trying to entertainment out of it.

547
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think that this is one

548
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: of those fights where in terms of star power, it

549
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: doesn't change much for him. It is a valuable win

550
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 1: because Strickland is tough to beat.

551
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: He's very DDP is already in my opinion, in the

552
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: midst of the top ten pounds four pound. Okay, so

553
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 2: I don't think.

554
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: This is going to have you done a rankings on Yeah.

555
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had him rked.

556
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: He's in the crown, so this won't alter that.

557
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: It's almost like a whole serve. But to your point,

558
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: is it time for us to think because I think

559
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: he's much bigger outside of the US than he is inside.

560
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: It has to be. Yeah, so maybe this could be

561
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: that beginning for him, And obviously once he fights Chamayav

562
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: and the build to that. CHAMAIAV does have a sneaky,

563
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: huge fan base that really pushes the metrics. Remember Gilbert

564
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 2: Burns and oh ma'am, I think blew up because he

565
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: was fighting SHAMAIAV.

566
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, I don't think this fight

567
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: necessarily it's extremely important in the sense of holding onto

568
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: the title and beating a guy who gets a second

569
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: crack at you who also was a former champion. That

570
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: it's tough to do, but it doesn't all to the

571
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 1: stakes in the same way that a fight with Shamaiah

572
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: might and then of course the big one.

573
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: But does it right or wrong? If people that still

574
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: believe that he didn't win, then I guess it rights

575
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: a wrong. It fixes that, it removes the glitch of.

576
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: A especially if he makes it emphatic. I mean, if

577
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: he's just able to go in there and do it.

578
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, But isn't it kind of crazy though that? On

579
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: the flip side, I don't think of Strickland as an

580
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: all timer. I gave him a lot of credit for

581
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: coming getting to the title level, for put having the

582
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: type of performance that he had against Izzy, for being

583
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 2: a fighter. I never thought he could be all that.

584
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 2: I respect who Strickland is as a fighter. But if

585
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: he comes a two division champion, adds DDP to the

586
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: list of guys that he beat, which is very impressive.

587
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: Some of those wins we didn't even think he could

588
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: sniff out Like this is building a sneaky great resume

589
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: right under our eyes just the same, even if we

590
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: don't really officially thought that he was going to get

591
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 2: this title shadow or if he deserves.

592
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 3: It visual of Poton beating him, though, Like I don't

593
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 3: know how it did for you guys, Like just that

594
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: big moment for Strickland, you know, just get knocked out.

595
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: It was a lingering thing, and you know, I think

596
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: he lost like a split decision right after that, Yeah,

597
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 3: and it felt I mean, these types of things, and

598
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 3: he's had like four split decisions. It's just really the

599
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: lack of emphasis in some of his fights, and like

600
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 3: we're mentioning him being a great striker and an elusive striker,

601
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: but he doesn't put guys away. And I feel like

602
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: those things he's so.

603
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 2: Good and it's such a big part of who he is.

604
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: But in close fights, I don't know if the judges

605
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: are gonna give him to it because I mean, look,

606
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: be honest, he's not gonna shoot for takedowns. He's not

607
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: a huge threat for high kicks outside of the constant

608
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 2: jabbing of his teeth kick. And even though his boxing

609
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: is fantastic his defensive head movement, is there something else

610
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: he can add to his game? A wrinkle unlock something

611
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: that can take him to that next level, so he

612
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: has a chance to stop him or win with with

613
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: no doubt.

614
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: I think Sean Strickland is very, very talented, but it

615
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 1: needs to be said out loud, like whatever kind of

616
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: bark he has, it's really people say, you know, he

617
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: has no bite. That's really not true. But what is

618
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: true is if you didn't know anything about Sean Strickland

619
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: and you just studied tape, the first thing you would

620
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: come away with is like, oh, he must have been

621
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: inspired by Floyd Mayweather, because this is a doubtensively oriented fight.

622
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 1: He is defense first all the time. He has good

623
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: takedown defense. He doesn't really have any offensive takedowns, but

624
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: he's very good takedown defense. He is very good striking

625
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: defense in terms of getting out of the way retreating.

626
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: We talked about this kick checking too, and I'm not

627
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: this is not This is not a I hope everyone

628
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: listening understands. This is not an insult. This is a compliment,

629
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: but it is also a reflection of the reality. He

630
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: is a defense first fighter and the challenge in this fight.

631
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: This is why I was telling you when we started

632
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: the show. Well, I kind of like this fight, Chuck

633
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: is he has to break that a little bit if

634
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: you want to snatch the title from DDP.

635
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: Here's the bold prediction. Remember when we were doing that,

636
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 3: when Sarah Gohn was getting ready to fight France has Gone,

637
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: We had the bunker, I said, I was like, you

638
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: know it would be crazy is Francis Andnghano broke out

639
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 3: the singlet and became like more of a wrestler in

640
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: this fight, And we're all like, wouldn't that be crazy?

641
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: Well?

642
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: He was his coach? Who was his coach? His coach? Was?

643
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: I predicted that in the same string. Actually can't predict that? Yeah?

644
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 3: I did too, but we both like we had this

645
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: whole discussion we were talking about this, but like who

646
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 3: was his coach? It was Eric Nixon. If there's going

647
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: to be something that you're going to do, that might

648
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: be an added wrinkle, that might be it. I mean,

649
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: nobody's really expecting him to do that.

650
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: I mean, don't we still say Whittaker was able to

651
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: take down DDP early with some level of ease before

652
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: that fight fell away from him. Do you think Strickland

653
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: can learn that fast enough to make it a weapon,

654
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: at least a plant the sea because that's what DDP did.

655
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: He planted the.

656
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: Sea Johnny Evlin he was had in his camp and

657
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: the thing that.

658
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: They did Wrestle ass Off and the thing they did.

659
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: With Francis was kind of trick him into like wrestling

660
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 3: because they would be like, he didn't want to practice

661
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 3: like defensive wrestling, so they're like, well, we'll just practice

662
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: offensive wrestling. And in that process he kind of learned

663
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: the defensive side. And he didn't realize. This was Eric

664
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: Nixon kind of relaying this. I mean, and I've seen them.

665
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: I've been in like, I've been in the gym there

666
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: and you can kind of see them working on this.

667
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if they'll actually do it. I don't

668
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: know if Sean will actually do that, but it would

669
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: be an interesting wrinkle if he tries.

670
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: To do that. You've entered the extreme couder before.

671
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been here yeah multiple times too.

672
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, every other day. But I used to go

673
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 2: there a lot in college. If you know what I

674
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: mean too, you know.

675
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: You did not Yeah, you have been the president of

676
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: the Scion is not not acceptable.

677
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: Do you guys? While I'm while I'll mention this and

678
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: you'll you know accuse me of trying to start shit.

679
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm not, but strictly had that comment that drick is

680
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 2: fights offensively like he you know, like he's on the

681
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: short bus.

682
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: Which a word.

683
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there is.

684
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: This on that bus too, I think and is rambling.

685
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he did. But they are teammates, so

686
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: I guess she was going to smoke.

687
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: He did, but he was just he gets.

688
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: Well, look, this is a topic, right, Like we saw

689
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: Winker and of Sonia sit down and do that podcast

690
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: on a Sonya's channel where they're like kind of making

691
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: fun of d DP is the best worst fighter, best

692
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: shittiest fighter ever. But how did he win that first fight?

693
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: By by being relentless in not giving up his attempts

694
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: to try to figure out how to get inside of

695
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: Sewan's defense. And even though like, I still don't get

696
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: how some people think that first fight was boring or

697
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: was bullshit. It was tactical, but it was high speed actical,

698
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: and it was kind of thrilling out since he didn't

699
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: know who won. But like, you gotta give DDP credit.

700
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: He says raw and ridiculous as possible at times, but

701
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: he's using the awkwardness to be affected effect.

702
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: Todd they're running downhill.

703
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: Any changes to his.

704
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: Game or if he implements that same same game, he's

705
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: still gonna win over five rounds.

706
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: Me, I think some of the hallmarks from what DDP

707
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: does are still gonna be there because that's who he is.

708
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: But I I do expect him to make some Dude,

709
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: he's a smart fighter. I mean he even said, like,

710
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: I know numerically he there was he was outstruck by Strickland,

711
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: but he was asked afterwards, like what was the key

712
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: to victory? And his answer was volume. And if you

713
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: just look at what he was doing, you can see

714
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: him trying all the time and a lot might miss,

715
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: but dude, he's just always on the gas, always on

716
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: the gas. And that in MMA, which is an inherently

717
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: offense oriented sport, that's gonna you're gonna win more often

718
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: than not with something like that. And the reason why

719
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: the second fight was Strickling is so important, I think

720
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: in my judgment is you know, he's kind of always

721
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: been like, oh, the goofy guy who just keeps getting

722
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 1: boiled it. But if you can beat Strickland twice, if

723
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: you can finish, if you can finish Whitaker at some

724
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 1: point at some point, and I learned my lesson already.

725
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people out there like, wow,

726
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: it's not accident. Something accidental about it.

727
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: That's a good fight.

728
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: He's also switching stances throughout like he gives a lot

729
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: of it. There's a lot of wrinkles that he does

730
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: that are a big part of his game. He's sturdy,

731
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: he's got a great chin, and he's strong. His balls

732
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: with question punched.

733
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: To activate a little bit like almost like Frankie Edgerson's.

734
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: It seems like once he kind of like feels he's

735
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: in the fight, you see him come come to life.

736
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: I agree with that, but like we were shocked that

737
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: he went five rounds as hard as he did. Again,

738
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: Strickland proved that that the gas think is also not

739
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: an issue. What does this guy not have? But also

740
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: just really technique, but he gets around that.

741
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: I mean, he he reeled it in enough. You probably

742
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: have done like and have you done like a evanalyzed

743
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 3: the fight UFC he took it down because their copywriter users. Yes, okay,

744
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: but I mean if you watch like Derek Brunson fight

745
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: the DDP had you know, once he started coming forward.

746
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: It was like throwing caution to the win. It looked

747
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: that way. It just looked like a guy who just

748
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: went berserker and he was just going after him, you know,

749
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: like like somebody had stole his wallet or something like that.

750
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: And that was reeled in when in a fight that

751
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: I thought a lot of people would thought it would

752
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: be more of an emotional fight. Maybe you would see

753
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: some of the stuff because they seemed to have the

754
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: bad blood. Ended up being a lot.

755
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: More technical than I think people understood it was going

756
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: to be. You know, I think that's right.

757
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: But it wasn't boring, can you set.

758
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it was boring. I mean it wasn't great.

759
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: Thrilling is a strong word.

760
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: I was thrilled the final minute Poeton was sure, but

761
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: like the final minute was really fun. And the way

762
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: that it finished at the bell and you didn't know

763
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: who won, and it's it was come on like it

764
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: was a long outl Look, you always split the difference

765
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: here until the damn truth. Okay, what do you got

766
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: for us? It was a thank you very much?

767
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Okay against you? I just I think thrilling? Is is

768
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: it thrilling? Was it thrilling?

769
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: Would you say thrilling.

770
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 4: No, maybe the low end of thrilling.

771
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: There's a spectrum of thrilled, team thrilling.

772
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: Hey are I was considering sense this is the second

773
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: fight between these two, that maybe we should do a shot. Now.

774
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: See, I'm going to say to you for the second

775
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: time in my life, I'm feeling these margin Yeah.

776
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good.

777
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: There, it looks great.

778
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little little need to read.

779
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, lod up man, I mean poet up went

780
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: in a win in a pregame party. I mean, you

781
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta go for it.

782
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: I have to get back on the train, and after

783
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: this I have to go see my daughter at gymnastics.

784
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: So I've got a lot going on today.

785
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: Same. So this is true story, true story. We'll take

786
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: a moment here to break. So in twenty seventeen, my

787
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: memory is right, I was doing uh May hour and

788
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: m m A B right solo. Right, But that's a

789
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: mean you guys were there, but like I was hosting both.

790
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: The worst times we were carrying.

791
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: We were carrying.

792
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: We're carrying you.

793
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, you're right, you were carrying me. So

794
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: I did take the train every Monday every Thursday for

795
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: fifty weeks out of fifty two the Mountain. I drank

796
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: on those train rides home. I would literally go to

797
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: Penn station they had a a little bottle of Yeah,

798
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels or something Jack Daniel, Yeah for sure, and

799
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: then you know, I'd have that and I just sleep

800
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: the whole train ride.

801
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: Well, those were dark times. These are great times. So

802
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: this is a great time.

803
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: And then the jactive blows. Here we go, this is

804
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: the good stuff. Mm oh right now, this is better.

805
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: This is and that will get slurry a quality experience,

806
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: all right with that? That is very good. With that

807
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: being said, and he thoughts about how the fight goes. Actually,

808
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: like cards on the table.

809
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: What do we think real talk is what he's asking. Yeah,

810
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: I think we see in the end the fact simile

811
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: of the first fight. I think the DDP will be

812
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: too much to overcome. Probably wins on the scorecard.

813
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: Okay. I wonder if Strickland will get to a point

814
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: where he opens up a little bit too much to

815
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: try to either over compensate if he's down in the

816
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: rounds or in general overcompensate because he's looking for more

817
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: powerful shots. It's not going to be the spam the consistency.

818
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: Maybe he's going to look for powerful moments. Will that

819
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: open him up to the type of fire fight where

820
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the big enough weapons in it. Could

821
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: there be a late stop a year for DDP is

822
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: one up.

823
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: I think DDP retains here. Yeah, I do again. I

824
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: thought Strickland won the first one. But one of the

825
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: challenges with having a defense oriented style is that you

826
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: can block a lot, and that's valuable, but it just

827
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: over time. Do you remember when Diego Sanchez fought Martin Campmon.

828
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: If you watch that fight, Diego Sanchez's face was all off. Okay,

829
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: it was on UFC and Fuel TV. You go back

830
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: and look at that fight's on five pass his I'm

831
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: not even I'm not even bullshitting. Diego's face looks like

832
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: it was almost halfway surgically removed. It's just like that.

833
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: It is so fucking bad. And he won, and he won,

834
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: and then when you go back and look at the highlights,

835
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: he's missing, dude, three fourths of every shot, but he

836
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: was just in the fucking guy's face. And the ref

837
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: excuse me, the judges, I think, get overwhelmed by that.

838
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: At it's not enough to just it's.

839
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: Just not enough. I think to sport that was a

840
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 3: tough visual regardless of how it happened, and that you

841
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: know was strickling. I mean he just looked like a

842
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: mess man. And then and they've been harping on for

843
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: the last couple of years damage being so important and even.

844
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: If it's close, it's going to go to that guy,

845
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: you know, But.

846
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 3: I think so man, I mean, I want to ask

847
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: you a.

848
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 2: Question about still Bronx still knocks?

849
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: What the hell is still knocks?

850
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: Like that name? I knew you would he is the

851
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: one that still knocks.

852
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't text you ahead of time to see

853
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: if you want to hang out. He still, like like

854
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 2: our parents ages, just knocks on the door and shows

855
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: about your house.

856
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: What mean these old people?

857
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: Can you know what I'm saying? Anyway, what I'm really

858
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: trying to say here is great mind in the corner

859
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: with Eric Nixon in the corner of stripling or the best.

860
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: Does Ddp's corner deserve more respect? I don't even know

861
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: their names. All we ever know about him is that

862
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: they're willing to kiss Draycus on the mouth. So like, look,

863
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: what do you know about these guys? Because you know

864
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: DDP can carry out a game plan. They've made great

865
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: adjustments in this evolution of his career.

866
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: We used to live in a world where if you

867
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: wanted to get world class coaching, you had to go

868
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: to the few world class coaches. But now they appear

869
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: to be almost everywhere. You can get training, almost anywhere.

870
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know much about them. I don't. I would

871
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: be lying if I did. I mean, I've heard some stories,

872
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: but I don't really have much to go on. Except again,

873
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it one more time, there's nothing about

874
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: DDP that is accidental. It could be somewhat surprising, perhaps

875
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: liw percentage, given some of his things that he does,

876
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: but it's not accidental.

877
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: And the day from his UFC debut, excuse me, he said,

878
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: you'll remember my name on the microphone. Afterwards he was

879
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: like it was all about like it wasn't necessarily a

880
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 2: great level confidence. No, this was this was next level.

881
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: I felt. I remember thinking like the Trevin Gilds, like

882
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: who is through the paces too? If people remember that

883
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Darren till right, like there were like only one other dude,

884
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: is it Tavares? Only one other guy has gone the

885
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: distance with d DP forget Yeah, he went that ship.

886
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he's a tough dude, but only that's

887
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 3: kind of crazy too, that he's put away everybody except

888
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: for Strickland, who's a defensive fighter.

889
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you sent me that quote he had about striking.

890
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: That is ridiculous.

891
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: He was half so it turned out that that quote

892
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: was from a bit he was doing with Nina Drama.

893
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: So I think he was like halfway wucking around, yeah,

894
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: because he was like, footwork is for bitches, and we're like, well,

895
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: lomochenkom My disagree. It turns out kind.

896
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: Of in his own room though, I mean, because people

897
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: view him that way, It's like, why not throw something

898
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: like that out there?

899
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: Right?

900
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: He's technical in his own way. Like I said, I

901
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: think it eventually will come to a screeching halt. But yeah,

902
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's this weekend, especially for a

903
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: guy like Sean Strickland doesn't have big power, doesn't have

904
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: big finishing ability. You're gonna let DDP hang around, all right,

905
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: Let's get.

906
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: In the what does Dane to want to see happen

907
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: on Saturday? What does the company want.

908
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: They don't want?

909
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: Question?

910
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: Again, these questions are irrelevant. This is not a situation

911
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: where it's the PBC roster versus the Golden Boy roster.

912
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: Everything is the UFC roster. It doesn't matter who wins,

913
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: they win, right, It's not a question.

914
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: Of I understand. I understand the differences in the foundation here,

915
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: But do you think personally Dana is like, yeah, I

916
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: don't want to go another round with this guy?

917
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: Is Jamie?

918
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: Dude?

919
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: They put Sean Strickland another title fight. They didn't have to.

920
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: They did it off of the Poular cost to win,

921
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 1: like they win no matter.

922
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 3: What I guess is he's saying that Strickland is the

923
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 3: guy that they want.

924
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: To what's a bigger fight for them, Strickland or DDP

925
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: against Homsa.

926
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: Strickland.

927
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: I think so too.

928
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: But if DDP just smokes Strickland, I mean obviously that

929
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: like they could change.

930
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: But Strickland versus Homsad is bigger. Yeah, but DDP versus

931
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: Pooton is the biggest, right, And Strickland won't fight.

932
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: Poton, So that's interesting.

933
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: Stricklan won't fight Pooton.

934
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: No, I get that. Do you see anything deeper?

935
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: Emobov is like Pluto in this whole conversation. Man, It's

936
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: like he's twenty eight, he's got time.

937
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: Do you see anything deeper of Pereira being in Strickland's corner.

938
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 2: I know Strickland's trying to say public well, Alex hates

939
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: h Drick is like, is there some type of thing

940
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: going on where if DDP gets another win here he

941
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: or if.

942
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: He beats Hamsa, he's gonna fight. He's gonna fight Poloton.

943
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: So I'm saying, are we like starting to plant the

944
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 2: seeds for that because you were the guy who told us, Hey,

945
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: by the way, guys, this story it might actually be

946
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: about Alex and not is he that's true?

947
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: I mean crazy as is he always talked about his

948
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: story after that. I feel like he really heard that.

949
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 3: I think he probably did and got real bitter. Yes,

950
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 3: his fighters are known for not being sensitive at all.

951
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: I know about that.

952
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: Man.

953
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 2: You have to say, this Middleway Division is hot.

954
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: It is and I'm excited.

955
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: But one thing though that Tatiyana Suarez said this week

956
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: that the real main event is the coal main event.

957
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: Would you guys agree with her in terms of your

958
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: interest level or is that false?

959
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: I love the fight, I don't think I don't think

960
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: it's going to hold more interest for the broader audience,

961
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 3: you know, but you must.

962
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: Say broader as a way to uh to like sneakily

963
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: say the women there no audience like I don't know.

964
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 2: Look which one do you? Which one do you care about?

965
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: More of the fan in you and seeing the resul

966
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: seeing it happen.

967
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: I honestly don't care in the sense that if Strickland

968
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: wins him versus Hamsad is going.

969
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: To be No. I'm talking about what do you mean

970
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: do you like?

971
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: Do you think it's a bigger fight?

972
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: Is the real main event in the card? And I'm

973
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: wondering which fight in the middle names in the main

974
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: event have bigger they're bigger stars. I'm talking about you

975
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: as a fan, which fight you care about more?

976
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: I care about I feel like the like when they

977
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: brought the women through to begin with, there was a

978
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: lot of attention paid and I think it's a lot

979
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: because of rond Rowsey. But his time has gone on, obviously,

980
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 3: it's it hasn't held the same depth of elite. It hasn't.

981
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 3: It's it's been a strange thing. But like it's also

982
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: that there's been this replenishing of the m M, a

983
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: fan base that probably came in around the pandemic or whatever.

984
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 3: These fights, we go all the way back with Tatiana,

985
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: all the way back to when she was starting and

986
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: she was doing this. They're calling her Herbie, like the

987
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 3: female hibib all that stuff. So in this weird way,

988
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: you're like, you're still latched on to this idea, like, man,

989
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: I want to see how she performs in this big

990
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: moment that she's been trying to get to through thyroid cancer,

991
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: through all the setbacks. But at the same time, you're like,

992
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how much it registers with the people

993
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: who'd have don't have that context kind of baked into

994
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: them yet I get it.

995
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: But I just think that even with the diminishing returns

996
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: of late in the in the female fights on the

997
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: UFC's roster, the fact that the divisions outside of one

998
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: twenty five are going in the wrong direction in terms

999
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: of replenishing depth, this is one of the best female

1000
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: fights they've been a long time. Like, this is a fantastic,

1001
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: freaking fight. And I have to say I'm a little

1002
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: more excited about the comin than the main are you really? Yeah?

1003
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Well give me give me the best reason why

1004
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: I should be more excited or anybody should be more

1005
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: excited without the coman than the.

1006
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: Main because alone, just Tatiano Suarez alone is the uncrowned champion.

1007
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: Going back to twenty sixteen when she debuted and conquered

1008
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: the Ultimate Fighter and looked like this absolute badass ready

1009
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: to become champion, and I didn't even realize at that

1010
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: point that she had. She should have been an Olympic hopeful,

1011
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: was the national high school wrestler of the year, had cancer,

1012
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: had a really bad neck injury.

1013
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: She found out about during those.

1014
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 2: Doesn't get to go to the Olympics, turns to MMA

1015
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: and then embarks upon a dominant cruise like and maybe

1016
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: it's a battle bit that he will retire this week,

1017
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: but a dominant cruise like I can't stay healthy, but

1018
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: when I'm in there, I am super elite. And what's

1019
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 2: crazy is you could frame Suarez as well. She looks

1020
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 2: great when we see her abou who is she fault?

1021
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: But then you actually look at who she has fought.

1022
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: She's finished Carla Asparza, Alexa Grasso, Andrage. She's got a

1023
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: very respectable win by decision over Anina Answeroff, who was

1024
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: riding a four fight win streak and was looking to

1025
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: be a contender, like she's put in the work, but

1026
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: she's also missed two years here, four years in the

1027
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 2: peak of her prime after the answer Off fight. So Luke,

1028
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: long story short, the personal story of Tatiana Suarez, the

1029
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: young Crown champion who's actually the betting favorite even though

1030
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: she's been off the last eighteen months, is enough of

1031
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: a poll. But I think way Lee has the possibility

1032
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 2: of being looked at as the greatest, as the greatest

1033
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 2: strawweight of all time, and she's facing her no doubt

1034
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: toughest competition ever, and they're both super world elite skilled,

1035
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: and on top of that, I think Swarz is gonna

1036
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: run through gonna run through her. So I'm just saying there's.

1037
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: A lot your digestive system.

1038
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: I love that she said, you know, because Whaley has

1039
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: been really a bully. I mean, like the the Lamemo fight.

1040
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: You think of that one specifically, how just it was

1041
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: like an onslaught. I mean it's so one sided, but

1042
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: like how good she's been, but she was like, she can't,

1043
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: She's not gonna bully me and the CA I can

1044
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: guarantee that.

1045
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: I love that.

1046
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: That's the kind of thing you're like she's a dog,

1047
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: is wired.

1048
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: With all the categories that you would want and toughness,

1049
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: perseverance like being willing to overcome. And then you watch

1050
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: the evolution of her game the times we have seen her, Luke,

1051
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: how dangerous is she as a massive strawweight southpaw good

1052
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: have movement, decent punching, but wrestling that's incomparable on the

1053
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: women's level and in a sub Michigan thing in house.

1054
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: I think on paper what you talking about it is

1055
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: absolutely true, to the point where you could even like,

1056
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: if this went five rounds, I'd be like, oh, yeah,

1057
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: of course. And if it went one round and she

1058
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: got run over, I would also be like, of course.

1059
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: But what makes us fight interesting is I don't know

1060
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: how much I can trust. And I'm let me make

1061
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: a statement here. I'm not in any way saying this

1062
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: in any kind of pejorative way. I really hope people

1063
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: understand that we're talking about someone who has had a

1064
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: numerous amount of health struggles, not just with obviously, as

1065
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: you mentioned cancer, which is very serious, but you know,

1066
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: orthopedic extra need. I don't know how much you can

1067
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: trust the body to physically perform in the way which

1068
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: I know.

1069
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 4: She can one night.

1070
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: We need one night.

1071
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I agree.

1072
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: If she doesn't get it though, if she doesn't get

1073
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: this night, that's.

1074
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: The point where she had to fight against canceled. She

1075
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: had to fight against Vina Jiang Roba Cancer, and the

1076
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 1: UFC was like, okay, who do we book her against?

1077
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: Now?

1078
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: You know what? Fuck it right down the.

1079
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: Front they from Jender right, seems just because but also

1080
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 2: they were going to move wayly against the against chev Tchenko.

1081
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: Of Chevchenko didn't get hurt in the Grossow fight. That

1082
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: was revealed by Whaley this week in an interview with

1083
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: Bizz Paing. So it's interesting that it seems this is

1084
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 2: going to be the last fight in Whaley's one fifteen

1085
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: run win or lose, if you take her words, if

1086
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: you look at it, it seems that it's going to be.

1087
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: I mean, this would be a huge emphatic statement. If

1088
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: she goes through Suarez. I just think that people who

1089
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: paid attention, you know, in air and just kind of

1090
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: paid attention to Suarez and see her, I guess how

1091
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: I see her, how you see her. To go through her,

1092
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 3: you know, and just do that to her, you probably

1093
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: should move on. You probably should. I think you've cleaned

1094
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: out the division at that point.

1095
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: Why isn't why isn't Wylie Jong more popular? Is it

1096
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: because of the inactivity? She fought twice but once in

1097
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: three once, it's got to be a big part of it.

1098
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: And uge English fans love her.

1099
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: Oh the hardcore fans like are just ridiculously. She's so

1100
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: over ridiculous.

1101
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: And it's it's it's crazy because I think this whole

1102
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: fight's being painted as a picture of perseverance for Suarez

1103
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: getting this thing. But if you really think, if you oops,

1104
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 3: I just turned.

1105
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: Something off here, I'll help you go ahead, all right,

1106
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: as long as you and you guys still hear me,

1107
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: guys were the questions.

1108
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 3: But when you look at Jiang, like after that fight

1109
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: of the Year that happened in twenty with a with Ohanna,

1110
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: it seemed like she might have compromised him. She loses

1111
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 3: the next couple of fights, you think that she's kind

1112
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: of being pushed.

1113
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 2: She's gone.

1114
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: But it's almost like a GSP type of like it

1115
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 3: taught her something that puts something in her that was like,

1116
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: I will never lose again.

1117
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: I taught her wrestling too, just like round. Remember she

1118
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: had in camp and all that. But you're right, it

1119
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: developed a new resolve where at thirty five right now,

1120
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: she's as well rounded and dangerous in every level as

1121
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: I've ever imagined. And she's built like a freaking tank,

1122
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: like she's her ability to come back not just from

1123
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: a head kick knockout lost to Rose in the first

1124
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: tile fight, but to then get solved after she changed

1125
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: her game around and still came up that empty, then

1126
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: to go on the run that she's on now and

1127
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: she's been dominant since then.

1128
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: So HER's I know I just talked, but holy shit,

1129
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: this is not You're right.

1130
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 2: It is it is it is. It's like it seems

1131
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 2: like is if you don't give a damn about this fight.

1132
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: I give a damn about this fight, just not as

1133
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: much as the main event.

1134
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: He's got to pour you on his mind, like Women's

1135
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: MMA is in shambles.

1136
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: Why can't we say that.

1137
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: This is the best of what they have right now?

1138
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: This is it's not the best of what they have.

1139
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: This is good, very this is actually very good.

1140
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: Have a better fight they can make under on the

1141
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: roster right now.

1142
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: They could make who would shift Chenko have to defend Harris? Yeah,

1143
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: you could do that one. You could do uh men

1144
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: on four O O.

1145
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: Those are not Those are not actually better fights than this,

1146
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 2: though they're not.

1147
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: That those are better fighters overall. Swarre Here here's the thing.

1148
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I have Chefchenko number one, pound, I got way

1149
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: Lee Took, I have five.

1150
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: Scooch Jong Wiley. Wiley is amazing, but she's thirty five.

1151
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: We should not lose sight of that fact. She has

1152
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: been inactive relatively. Sarz is thirty four, by the way,

1153
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: well and again all that time off because of so,

1154
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: I think highly of their abilities in best case scenarios.

1155
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: But I keep going back to this, are we looking

1156
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: at a best case scenario for either of them? I

1157
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: don't think that we are, and so for those reasons,

1158
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: I have a little bit.

1159
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: Okay, but even this case scenario, this case scenario rules.

1160
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 2: I mean, this is gonna be a great fight. There's

1161
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: so much at stake for both of their histories in

1162
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: the in how we're gonna I mean, this is it.

1163
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: This is the best of the best. I mean, this

1164
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: is this could crown the pomp for Pound queen in

1165
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: a sense.

1166
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think the winner of this is punk No, yeah,

1167
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: A little.

1168
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: More okay, if Whaley stopped I will say stops.

1169
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: She does. It's a little stronger.

1170
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, both both names, both both of them

1171
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: are in the Yahoo Women Pound for pound. Just I

1172
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 3: mean so that that by itself is kind of a

1173
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 3: fun thing, right, Like you know, you're not going to

1174
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 3: get many of these types of matchups exactly.

1175
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 2: And look, let's talk about that from then actual style matchup.

1176
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: You have the well rounded game in Whaley. You've got

1177
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: the grappling, more dominant, submission, more dominant game of Suarez.

1178
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: Although her striking is is not not for lacking. What

1179
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: happens when they match it. I interviewed way Lee. She

1180
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: seems excited about the idea of matching their skills in

1181
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: the ground. She knows it's going to go to the ground.

1182
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: But you know, rewatching some fights with Suarez coming in today,

1183
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: it's like you forget like she is, there's nobody on

1184
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: her level as a female wrestler, and may like nobody.

1185
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: And when you add in the submission threat and she's submitted.

1186
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: I think she only had three profights that that didn't

1187
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: end in a stop pitch. It is ninety percent of

1188
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: those are by submission, even though it's against way Lee.

1189
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 2: I think she has the type of game size, everything

1190
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: to just she can she could run through way.

1191
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 3: Lee and I mean those moments where she was dominating

1192
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: Jan john On and and Lamosh, Like you look at

1193
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: those things like I'm talking about Zang Like, when you

1194
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: think about that, you're like, man, I love when you

1195
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: have what essentially comes down to two heads of momentum

1196
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 3: that both look unstoppable at the moments they're facing each other. Obviously,

1197
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 3: we've had such a small sample size in the end

1198
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: over the course of how many years she has, like

1199
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: what six UFC fights over the course of nine years, Tatiana, Yes,

1200
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: it's like you wish that you could have seen more,

1201
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: somebody pushing her the limits that you had to see

1202
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: her answer. We haven't seen that.

1203
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: She would have been the champion if she hadn't got hurt.

1204
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: Way I think when Juana was champion, when Rose was champion,

1205
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: when all like she named them all and she was like, yeah,

1206
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: I would have been the best.

1207
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: That's hard to dispute. Would I would agree with her?

1208
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: She was on the Ultimate Fighter season twenty three, which

1209
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: was all the way back and ready for this twenty

1210
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: sixteen that's wild twenty nine years well, coming up on

1211
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: nine years.

1212
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 2: Right at the start of the answer Off fight, which

1213
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: was twenty nineteen, and it was the last fight for

1214
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: Tatiana before she had to take four years off, they

1215
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: said on the broadcast that she was averaging seven and

1216
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: a half successful takedowns over three rounds.

1217
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: Wild. That's that's that is fucking.

1218
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: Balk and she fights, mean she she has?

1219
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 3: Can she do that?

1220
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 2: Mary submissions?

1221
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one thing to be doing it to the

1222
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: Montana de la Rossa's and even on Rodge is a

1223
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: little well.

1224
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, do you think the ground

1225
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: game cancels each other out and this becomes more of

1226
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: a kickboxing match, or do you think that she can

1227
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 2: even be dominant against Whaley on the ground.

1228
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: I think she can be dominant on her best day,

1229
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: on her best day, she can be dominated against anybody

1230
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: in the weight class on the ground.

1231
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: Okay, forget best day or worst day. How about Saturday?

1232
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: How about that day? What it like?

1233
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer that, bro, I really don't.

1234
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: You think that we're gonna Do you think it's going

1235
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 2: to be a fight. Do you think it's going to

1236
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: play out like a kickboxing fight? And what do we

1237
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: think of their striking compared against each other. Whaley's probably

1238
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: more dangerous a little bit, but I don't think.

1239
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: Will do that.

1240
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: I mean maybe a little bit, but I don't think

1241
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 3: for long.

1242
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: I think Tatiana, I think you're going to see some

1243
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: kicks that are going to be dangerous. Don't forget that

1244
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: rose Head kicked Whaley. Don't forget that too. That's a

1245
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: good point. Yeah, it is true.

1246
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: But I think what's kind of interesting about it is

1247
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: like I actually love that the UFC made it this way,

1248
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: where where they were like, Okay, we've been waiting on

1249
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: the Tatiana experience. We didn't get it for the last

1250
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: two times. We tried, fuck it front of the line.

1251
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 2: Just go And by the way, if Suarez wins, it's

1252
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: Durn next. You better believe it's their next stage. I

1253
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: think that's the one million percent they will they will

1254
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: make if they have, they'll make Yon fight, but they'll

1255
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: let Durn cut and get the next time.

1256
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: Someone asked me yesterday, oh, if someone's like, if Tatiana

1257
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: Swarez wins, does she retire, and I'm like, if she loses,

1258
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: that's different. She might, but if she wins, it's like,

1259
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: now's your chance. To make money. Why the fuck would she?

1260
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: As long as she can physically do it, she's gonna

1261
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 2: go for it, you know that? Yeah?

1262
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

1263
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: If she wins, especially if Duran is the next opponent,

1264
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: I absolutely think she'll take that fight.

1265
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 3: So it'd be a probably mid twenty twenty seven when

1266
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 3: the Durn fight happens.

1267
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: What do you think about it?

1268
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: Are you early?

1269
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: Uh? Before we get to the rest, I want to

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Speaker 1: some gems on the premium card, which we're going to

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Speaker 2: Gems he calls them.

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Speaker 1: He means Jose, A couple of Jim Miller I think

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Speaker 1: is on the undercard. Kidding, of course, go ahead, you

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Speaker 1: have taus to share. Takeing on justin Tafa. Don't give

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Speaker 1: a fuck.

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Speaker 2: Well, shaf is making his UFC debut, he's seven to

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Speaker 2: zero of Brazilian and he's the betting favorite. Maybe this

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Speaker 2: is just the beginning of his tour of Tafa, like

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Speaker 2: Parker took that time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Parker Porter took the bad side of the

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Speaker 1: tour Tafa. It just fucking worked him over like a

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Speaker 1: summer job.

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Speaker 2: That's different.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't have a great degril of a degree of interest. However,

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Speaker 1: to your point to share seems like listen heavyweight and

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Speaker 1: needs some prospects like.

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Speaker 2: Six foot eight or seven, huge dudes.

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Speaker 1: Huge guy. And then there's Jimmy Crewe taking on Hudolpho Belato,

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Speaker 1: which is the least necessary fight possible.

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Speaker 2: Ross Now, will it be an action packed unnecessary fight?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy brings it, Jimmy Crew goes for it, and Belatoe.

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Speaker 2: Is hit able Belato Mma. Yeah, where's bon right.

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Speaker 1: Tournament in sports? Yeah? And then your main card opens.

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Speaker 1: This one's a little more interesting actually. Jake Matthews at

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Speaker 1: one seventy taken on Francisco Prato out of Argentina. But

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Speaker 1: he's pretty good as well.

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Speaker 3: It feels like Jake Matthews like has been fighting in

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Speaker 3: the UFC for like forty years, doesn't it. It's like

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Speaker 3: since the beginning and he's thirty.

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Speaker 1: Years the moment that where he kind of faded out

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Speaker 1: and climbed back, but I think that has that has yeah,

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Speaker 1: kind of reached the limit as well. So they put

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Speaker 1: some good Aussie fighters on the card, or at least

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Speaker 1: I should say Oceanic fighters on the card, But I

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Speaker 1: don't know that these are any like game changing kind.

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Speaker 2: Of killing I mean, let's be honest, they're killing me

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Speaker 2: with this main card, like, I don't even care if

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Speaker 2: the if the regular prelims, in the early prelims are

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Speaker 2: like absolute local trash garbage. But if you're paying a

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Speaker 2: pay per view, you should get five fights that kind

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Speaker 2: of matter and some in the idea of.

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Speaker 1: Pay review, three is what the limit should be.

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Speaker 2: The idea of mattering has different levels, and sometimes it

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Speaker 2: could just be having the hot local fighter in his market.

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Speaker 2: But come on, dude, these three fights that opened that

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Speaker 2: are on this card don't matter.

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Speaker 3: We usually they have some good swing bat at least

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Speaker 3: like the Michael vinim page for instance, on one of

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Speaker 3: the know something like that they've got something.

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Speaker 2: Or some interesting heavyweight. I know this is what the

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Speaker 2: top of fight could be.

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Speaker 1: For the winner, said Matthews versus Prato.

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Speaker 2: It was like in a zero post they were like,

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Speaker 2: shut down the negative talk, let's keep it going. It

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Speaker 2: was like when road and was like, don't bring that

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Speaker 2: up that injury, Morab please.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to be a boring fight.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a boring fight.

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Speaker 1: The Matthews fight. Yeah no, no, that's I think That's

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Speaker 1: why I say with Cruton Belato, they're going to kill

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Speaker 1: each other, you know, and justin top think, are you

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Speaker 1: expecting that he will.

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Speaker 2: Bang or it's going to go three rounds?

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Speaker 1: We're going to be like, what, Okay, he'll bang his

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Speaker 1: way to three rounds.

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Speaker 2: But you have been extra passionate at defending the honor

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Speaker 2: of this card for some reason.

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Speaker 1: What is the claim was that this card is worse

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Speaker 1: than the Saudi card, which I just really don't know.

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Speaker 3: I've heard that a little bit better. I've heard that.

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Speaker 1: I've heard that I think the main card is probably

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Speaker 1: a little weak. I think the overall card is stronger.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me what you like about on that undercard.

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Speaker 1: Then let's talk about one of the fights that really

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Speaker 1: stands out, which is the Alex Alexander. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: it to poor taken On Colby. His name is spelled

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Speaker 1: thick knees, but it's spelled it's pronounced thickness. I mean,

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Speaker 1: his search, hisory is all paul yes for versus thickness.

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Speaker 1: Someone asked me what I think about this? If you

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Speaker 1: look at Taporia's opponents, this is the little brother. He

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Speaker 1: started in twenty fifteen, he lost after his third fight,

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Speaker 1: took a six year break, comes back and fights absolute

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Speaker 1: fucking jobbers. So my attitude is I'm not saying he's

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Speaker 1: bad or good. You simply have no way of knowing

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Speaker 1: because he's beaten. Nobody that gives you any reliable information.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's well, And then brothers are usually called out.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't an Alexander a million inco. Wasn't that his brother's.

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Speaker 1: Face, the one who's got he's got the Uh.

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Speaker 3: That's not right. Oh no, no he has.

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Speaker 1: Titus got eliminated from many fights because of this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so I mean you don't know what you're getting,

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Speaker 3: brother sugar, right Diaz?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, middle Nugg Matt.

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Speaker 1: And Mark Hues. Folks forget mark Us fought in the UFC.

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Speaker 2: Right, Dan Miller, Okay, Van Miller Miller Miller.

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Speaker 1: Folks, go Dan Miller in the i f L was

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Speaker 1: a fucking beast.

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Speaker 2: Who are the brother the lim my brothers? One in

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Speaker 2: Belator Diego?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes they both are Diego, but like they both.

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Speaker 3: I think all the pit bulls are related, aren't they

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Speaker 3: like in some way all part of the same litter?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Wow, let's cheer for one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, you know I don't think that was right.

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: In any case, So this fight is kind of fun

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Speaker 1: because Kobe Thickness is a protege. That is his name,

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Speaker 1: That is his fucking name.

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I never saw weirder names until two

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Speaker 1: things happened in my life. One, I joined the Marine

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Speaker 1: Corps just all the weirdest fucking names and then got

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00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: into ye. Kobe Thickness is a protege BC of Alexander Bolkonowski.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have illiotio and in the corners.

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Speaker 2: Are you torn at all by this equation?

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Speaker 1: I don't think either of them are great? Is my

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Speaker 1: my my like my low key hunch, But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let me actual you this on your expect If Toporia

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01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: Big Bro is a ten out of ten right now,

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Speaker 2: for UFC Fighter, maybe an eleven out of ten to

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01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: be very fair, what are your expectations of quality levels,

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01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: sustained success that we'll see out of Alexander.

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Speaker 3: I mean I watched Tommy Fury and I had a

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01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: big expectation with his name and plumbmeted half brother, but

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01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 3: it plummeted. He says the same. I would say that

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01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 3: if he's a six, right.

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01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: He's like six of his brother.

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Speaker 3: You'd be if his brother is an eleven out of ten.

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01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 3: I mean hopefully he's a six.

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01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: Yea. I'll feed into it.

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01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't get he's like, I'll take a bite out

1444
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: of that, you know, I'll just.

1445
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: Grab that, you know.

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01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: But do we know does the history of mopping up

1447
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 2: on the regionals?

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01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: What do we know about some bums? He mopped up

1449
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: some bums. I don't know what to make of that.

1450
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,959
Speaker 3: Thickness is no bum I will say that.

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01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: No, thickness is not a bump. But like up to

1452
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: this point, Alexander Toporia has been just beating up bums.

1453
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: And his opponent before last, not his last one, with

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01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: the one before that, they call him loco. He's one

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01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: and eleven.

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Speaker 3: Fooled by the record, Luke, speaking of thickness, do you

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Speaker 3: prefer count losses against fighters? In m M A? You

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Speaker 3: need to?

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Speaker 2: You prefer more cushion for the pushing. Speaking of thickness, Juke,

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Speaker 2: I do I do? All right?

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Speaker 1: Getting back to the cart if we can, b C

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01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: and Icepan. Okay, there's some other ones on this card

1515
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: as well. Cody Steele. Tody Steele, what do you know

1516
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: about him? It's funny. It's funny.

1517
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 3: No, No, I do know that he's uh, you know

1518
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: his jiu jitsu obviously, but like it's funny because I

1519
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 3: did two pieces recently. One I went to a concert

1520
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 3: with Diego Lopez. I went and saw Zach Bryant concert

1521
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 3: with him and like his crew and Cody Cody Steele.

1522
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 3: It was kind of it was in the it was VIP,

1523
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 3: but you weren't like in his dress room. You're just

1524
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 3: in this area where he goes through. You know, Cody

1525
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 3: Steele was among our little posse on that. Then I

1526
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 3: go do a piece of a rob over at Syndicate

1527
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 3: like three weeks later and he's training over there. So

1528
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 3: I was talking to him both times. I recognize that

1529
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 3: he did the second time obviously I met him at

1530
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: the first USh. Yeah, yeah, So I mean.

1531
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 2: Was it the hat you think?

1532
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 3: I think, I don't know. It's hard to say. He's

1533
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: he said anakin. I don't know. I don't even understand, like,

1534
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 3: but uh no, but he seemed like he's a very

1535
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 3: young dude.

1536
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:46,439
Speaker 2: I was watching him train.

1537
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 3: I mean, the dude's pretty intense, so I think that

1538
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 3: that's gonna be a fun fight, just given like his

1539
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu and all that. Plus he was on the

1540
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: Contender series and I.

1541
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: Think he got a knockout right orright like, so, so

1542
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: he's throwing hands at the jiu jitsu guy. That's all.

1543
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: Was a good Yeah, I love it. Man. I'm focused

1544
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: exclusively on this Wang Song.

1545
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: Fight against Brazil.

1546
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm not fooling around because Song came in, he did.

1547
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 2: She came in with this look. She had the Alex

1548
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: Pereira thing. She came in with the hey she beat

1549
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 2: Valentina back in twenty fifteen and kickboxing in the same

1550
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: division and also looking spectacular in her debut. Just look

1551
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: like a menace. Does the joker thing at the way

1552
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: insas like has the full shtick down? But the way

1553
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: was it Gabriella Fernandez with the opponent that upset her. Yeah,

1554
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 2: the way that she succumbed in that fight was shocking.

1555
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 2: It was I know, a lot of the air left

1556
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: the balloon, but how much interesting matchup here? Bruno Brazil

1557
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: can fight a little bit, Luke. This is going to

1558
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 2: tell us a lot in terms of whether this was

1559
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 2: like wanting done or whether there's still life, you know,

1560
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: for potential for her to cut the line and get

1561
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: to the top.

1562
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 3: Does this a like a Alex Peretta like coming in

1563
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 3: with the backstory on Izzy type thing?

1564
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: That's what I thought you want?

1565
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 3: Right like you want? Yeah, you want to see it.

1566
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes you want to kind of root for that scenario,

1567
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 3: just given that you have, like this storyline that they

1568
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 3: cross paths.

1569
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: You know, at one point she could be on the

1570
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: fast track, but she looked like a million books. What

1571
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 2: do you I mean, her game speaks for itself when

1572
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: she's not succumbing to that submission and getting knocked down.

1573
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: Like she was.

1574
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it took a little steam off. I think she

1575
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 3: can gain it back. With a big showing here. I

1576
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 3: feel like people are talking about this fight, which is

1577
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 3: kind of crazy. So I think a big showing. You

1578
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 3: never know.

1579
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: By the way Cody Steele, Alexander Taporia and then Song

1580
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: Wang back to back to back fights on this card

1581
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: is what I mean when I talk about death sat

1582
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: Arabia didn't have this depth on the premium card. Also,

1583
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: it should be don to Jelly.

1584
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,479
Speaker 2: I want to cut you off on your also because

1585
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: I think one more thing should be noted about Quervo.

1586
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: We'll do that in a minute, because I really believe.

1587
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: Okay, we can do it now if you want.

1588
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wanted you to know that now's a

1589
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: good time to remember where Tequila's story truly began. Okay,

1590
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: I'm talking about seventeen ninety five, the year I'm talking

1591
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 2: about when when Quervo invented tequila. You know what I'm

1592
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: talking about with that, Since then, Cuervo was stayed true

1593
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 2: to its roots, gentlemen, the same family, the same land,

1594
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: the same passion. Two hundred and thirty years later, we're

1595
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: still there in every pore, on every margarita, in every celebration,

1596
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: and there's no time to celebrate, like right, now right

1597
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: or live let's go, so enjoy the tequila that started

1598
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: at all, Quervo, the tequila that invented tequila. And by

1599
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: the way, Proximo Quervo dot com, please drink responsibly. UFC

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: three twelve pregame preview brought to you, by the way

1601
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 2: by Guervola. All right, Chuck, do you need.

1602
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 3: To But I will say that this is a very

1603
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 3: sympatical relationship we've got going on here with Cuervo. This

1604
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense to make Cuervo and the

1605
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 3: Morning Combat guys, this makes sense.

1606
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: Yes, it certainly does. Very quickly before we go, we

1607
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: have Jack Jenkins taking on Gabriel Santos on this card

1608
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: as well were which could be a fun contest. By

1609
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: the way, clause on this.

1610
01:07:54,920 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: Falls, He's consistently this is what via cheslav orschav Yacht

1611
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: just show. He is consistently in bat chick crazy fight

1612
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: night bouts in which he gets his ass kicked throughout

1613
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 2: and then inevitably pulls a Demopolis like rally to get

1614
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 2: the win or not. But he's in banger after mister

1615
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: Fabers Dude is fantastic, Luke, He's an entertainment machine.

1616
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 1: Once again, the main card sinks. This the prelim card,

1617
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: you fucking asshole.

1618
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: Assholes wrong though Long Island this card.

1619
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: You cannot you cannot sit here and tell me that

1620
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 1: the Saudi prelim card is better than this one.

1621
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 4: It's all I'm going to say is we'll have to

1622
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 4: see how the fights play out.

1623
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 2: But that's what he was better on paper, and Saudi

1624
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 2: was not a paper.

1625
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: What does it like to be so wrong all the time.

1626
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: That Chuck was a judge once in high court?

1627
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, high court, you forget you forget my resume. I

1628
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 3: think I lifted.

1629
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: Your very quickly. Uh, crazy ass Long Island. Luke any

1630
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: bets courtesy of our friends at draft and how the

1631
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: odds or the parlays are stacked up, anything you got

1632
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: your eye on that the folks should know about.

1633
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 5: I really like the spread bet in the main event,

1634
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 5: So Sean Strickland plus five and a half in their

1635
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 5: first fight. Two judges gave it to d DP forty

1636
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 5: eight forty seven. One judge gave it to Sewan forty

1637
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 5: eight forty seven. So the spread was only one and

1638
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 5: they're giving you five and a half here, I mean,

1639
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 5: I'll take that all day. Minus won thirty five on

1640
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 5: DK right now, Wow?

1641
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 2: Not bad?

1642
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: Okay?

1643
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: And do you have a sense about any other upper

1644
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: down wins on this card?

1645
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 5: I mean I got Suarez as a dog, so I'm

1646
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 5: feeling really good about that because now she was earlier.

1647
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: In the week.

1648
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, sharp, money that went back to the champion. I

1649
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 2: will take that plus money.

1650
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: On Tatiana Okay, anything else?

1651
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 5: I got to think of the time I had I

1652
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 5: have the over two and a half in the main event.

1653
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 5: I took Jimmy Crue as a dog. I know people

1654
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 5: might think I'm crazy. He hasn't want to fight since

1655
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, but he's also been fighting top fifteen lights.

1656
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 2: We have that whome crowd just Buffel Ballato.

1657
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 1: You know how a Contender series tuned in?

1658
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 2: Is your dad of Australian origin and d s for

1659
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: this card on Saturday.

1660
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 4: He's not tuned in at all. I tried to get

1661
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 4: HM hyped about it here.

1662
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: How many times does your dad go what the fuck

1663
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: went wrong with my life that I left Australia for

1664
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: Long Island? How about that? Wow?

1665
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 5: Probably not that often. I thought you were going to say,

1666
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 5: what does he say about my career? That he says

1667
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 5: what went wrong?

1668
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: You know he has a sister named Jessica, named after

1669
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: the Alma Brothers song.

1670
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 3: Is that right? It's kind of uh yeah, nice, true, yes,

1671
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 3: all right, yeah, it's like the million onion of a

1672
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 3: million skins.

1673
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: Hey, can I do a little bit of breaking news.

1674
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: It's not really UFC three twelve related, just very quickly

1675
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: because we have the audience on the air here. You

1676
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: did get a statement from MVP. I don't know if

1677
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: you saw this. That's most valuable promotions. Canelo was supposed

1678
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: to fight Jake Paul the last night I pulled out.

1679
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: This is what MVP wrote. MVP was deep in negotiations

1680
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: for a blockbuster fight between Jake Paul and Canelo Alvarez

1681
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: on sinkle to my weekend in Las Vegas, a massive

1682
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: event for the Mexican, Puerto Rican and American fans, and

1683
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 1: it's disappointing to see how the situation unfolded. MVP operates

1684
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: with integrity, transparency, and respect for the sport. It's out,

1685
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: it's in the fans. Unfortunately, not everyone in boxing shares

1686
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 1: those value.

1687
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 3: Oh boy, somebody's under the bus now.

1688
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: And then he goes on from there, Jake Paul isn't

1689
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: going anywhere neither his MVP will continue to disrupt boxing

1690
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: on our terms. Okay with that, Chuck, Chuck, Where can

1691
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: folks find your work?

1692
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 3: Primarily over at Yahoo's uncrowned site, the Combat Vertical over there,

1693
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: and I still post some stuff on the Myth m

1694
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 3: I t h dot com. So those are the two

1695
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: primary places I'm posting right now.

1696
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 2: I like to go to Boston Scalley dot com and

1697
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 2: look at the myth hat.

1698
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 3: Beautiful, beautiful, still got I say, oh yeah, I've still

1699
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 3: got to supply. So I've got like a replenished supply.

1700
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 3: So if you want to get one of the myth hats,

1701
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 3: not this okay, darker gray one, you actually have one.

1702
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 2: I have one, fantastic do you have you ever been

1703
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 2: stopped by a myth fan who was wearing a myth hat?

1704
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 3: Only one time at a fight? Was it the Sphere?

1705
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 3: It was? It was one of the more recent ones.

1706
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 3: Somebody did was wearing that hat. And Mark Ratner wears

1707
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 3: his all the time, Like if you see him wearing

1708
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 3: the dark gray hat, that's the one.

1709
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, did you see you

1710
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: were you were cage or ringside at Benevitez morrel. Yes,

1711
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: was that Mark Rattner who was there? Yes, I couldn't

1712
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 1: quite tell. So he was he had the he had that.

1713
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was that.

1714
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 3: He has his dark one. You can see it, says

1715
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 3: myth on the back that he wears it all the time.

1716
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: I saw him. I saw him ringside. I'm like, that's

1717
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: fucking Mark Rattner.

1718
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 2: I'm actually not ready to end the show because i

1719
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 2: have a key question that no one's answered yet. No,

1720
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: it's not disgusting, it's not decrepit, it's not unnecessary.

1721
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 3: I don't need to hear prediction who's the.

1722
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: Strawweight champion Sunday morning? I mean, go on, put your

1723
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:38,879
Speaker 2: balls on the lot.

1724
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 1: Via stoppage wow via head Norm triangle.

1725
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,759
Speaker 2: So here's the deal. She Bravo choked what she's calling

1726
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: a dars aby name Amanda Bobby Cooper. In the Tough finale.

1727
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 2: She was asked which submission at media day she would

1728
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 2: envision defeating her, and somebody said, well, what about that

1729
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 2: dars And She's like, yeah, yeah.

1730
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: That dar so we can see that head Norm trying.

1731
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: She said that would be like the full full circle

1732
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 2: right there trying. Would you please tell the people where

1733
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 2: you're leaning Suarez as well, Via.

1734
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 3: I think it goes the distance. I don't like I

1735
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: could see it going the way you're talking about, but

1736
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: I think that if the further it goes, the more

1737
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 3: it's going to benefit her.

1738
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: Well, look, I'm saying this backing suarezs aggressively knowing how

1739
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 2: great Whaley is. I know, but I really truly believe

1740
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 2: that Tatiana is that much I guess better, or is

1741
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 2: just in the right spot on the right time, even

1742
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: coming off of eighteen months. Are we overlooking if that's

1743
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 2: going to matter?

1744
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 3: I mean, she's always coming off big, you know, hiatuses though,

1745
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 3: So I don't know how long.

1746
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 2: She can stay healthy. I hope for you know, forever.

1747
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:47,919
Speaker 1: I feel it goes the distance. Jean Wiley wins. Really Yeah,

1748
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 1: where will she have the biggest success?

1749
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: You think Whaley just in straight boxing or Willox.

1750
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: Bick boxing range? Yeah? No, you're good, you know, why

1751
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 1: don't you just touch them? Yeah?

1752
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1753
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 1: Inappropriately? I think Kate boxing range is going to be

1754
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 1: where she you know, in tow a extent boxing range.

1755
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: But the closer you get to boxing range, this is

1756
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 1: takedown range, So you got to be careful there.

1757
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 2: Nobody has fascinating nobody has that level of combined wrestling

1758
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 2: and jesuit's in the women's games, and she's a finish

1759
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 2: It's correct.

1760
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 3: I think McKenzie during to the cage side, ready to

1761
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: enter the cage.

1762
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 2: Do you think her significant other, her fiance who is

1763
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: also in her corner, and that's Patchi Mix, who is

1764
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 2: publicly asking mister Don with two ends to release him

1765
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 2: from the BFL. Do you think there's any connection between

1766
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 2: if Tatiana becomes champion, we get we get Patchi in

1767
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: the UFC.

1768
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: Trade awesome to get Paix, that would be fine. That's

1769
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: why PFL is not going to release.

1770
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: I did see your colleague Ariel Hawane come up with

1771
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 2: a trade idea that was ros Nama units for Patchi

1772
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: Mix under the guys that Dakota Dichivo would need a

1773
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: big pay per view opponent to build to. Maybe that

1774
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 2: was maybe that was Rose and then on the flip side,

1775
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 2: UFC can get somebody who the PFL was.

1776
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 3: An interesting idea with well, Rose is kind of where

1777
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 3: is she at you know in this on stage stage? Well,

1778
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 3: I mean, but also just you know, where does she

1779
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 3: really fit into title or anything like that? At this point,

1780
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 3: So that's actually not I mean, a horrible shout at all.

1781
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 2: You know, I still can't believe did you shower this morning?

1782
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: I did not, But I can't believe that. Ditchuva ran

1783
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: through Tyler like that, I can't.

1784
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know if BC is

1785
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 1: going to shower.

1786
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: I shower, I'm gonna wake up everybody in the house.

1787
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: I just you know, I get the day before.

1788
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 3: What time do you bounce?

1789
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: What time do you get sleeping in the tub? What

1790
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: the fuck does that mean?

1791
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 2: I don't need to explain the breakdown of my living situations.

1792
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 3: A shotgun house.

1793
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: It was a shotgun merit and not just kidding definitely,

1794
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: Oh you know, Chuck, I just I like to drink

1795
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 2: delicious squervo and talk about great mma with people I

1796
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 2: really like and enjoy. So this is the room. This

1797
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 2: is certainly a lot of fun here. It's shot fun.

1798
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 2: You know, what do you I don't know, like I'd

1799
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: like to hear more about your time with Sean Strickland,

1800
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 2: if you're willing.

1801
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 3: To share, you really want to hear it, I do.

1802
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 3: I mean I didn't really hang out with him. I

1803
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 3: just talked to him on the zoom does he turn

1804
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 3: off character?

1805
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: You were going to.

1806
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, I understand, we'll do it.

1807
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 3: He Uh. He was very in a weird way, like

1808
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 3: have you talked to him before, because he's very personal

1809
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: like he will, you know, talk to you as if

1810
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: your buddy, like he's going to talk to you that

1811
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 3: way and h but he takes everything from just a

1812
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 3: direct question of what you're asking about the fight, you know,

1813
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 3: maybe what adjustments where into some other corner that he was.

1814
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 3: So he's got a naturally digressive mind. I don't it's

1815
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 3: just it's almost like an ad D type thing, like

1816
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 3: he just kind of goes off where he wants to go.

1817
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 2: Well, it's usually not long before he concocts a nickname

1818
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: for the media, for the media members that he's getting

1819
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: consistent with. It was really disparaging.

1820
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 3: Oh white dude. It was not going to say to me,

1821
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 3: I mean.

1822
01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.

1823
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 2: And he didn't say anything.

1824
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 3: I mean, look what.

1825
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: Sewn Strickland has a two time champion. That's I mean

1826
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: not not every two time championship is the same. Really

1827
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: on opinion right now at.

1828
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 3: A split decision, imagine split exactly, and you would have

1829
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 3: five split decisions.

1830
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: In their scenario in which they would delay Hamzat to

1831
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: go directly to the trilogy. Would it need to be

1832
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 2: a fight of the year. Would it need to be something,

1833
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: because certainly Strickland would have to win, But would it need.

1834
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: To be like I think if it's close, No, But

1835
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: if it's ends up being a question of judging or

1836
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: referee error like that.

1837
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 2: Draw for Chefchenko Grosso.

1838
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: Whereas that that's true, that changes everything.

1839
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 3: I guess you could run. You do have a one A,

1840
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 3: one B. I guess if you look at Imobov that way,

1841
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 3: but you could do Imobov right if that's kind of

1842
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 3: a title eliminator types fair point.

1843
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 2: Do you think there's any chance that of Strickland loses

1844
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 2: this fight, that he will fight is he a second

1845
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 2: time man? Because that could be the right fight. That is,

1846
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 2: he could go, Okay, give me, give me six months,

1847
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 2: I'll come back, let me get some more, let me

1848
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: get one. I could see that.

1849
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how much what you guys

1850
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 3: talked about this, but I'd love to see is he

1851
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 3: kind of if he's going to continue, Let's go way

1852
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 3: way lower than that. Like just go back and get

1853
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 3: your motion.

1854
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 2: Kind of like when Connor dm Dana on Twitter and

1855
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,839
Speaker 2: want of Diego Sanchez after Cowboy?

1856
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 3: Is that? Yeah? God, I forgot about I forgot about

1857
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 3: that too, Jesus, it's hard to remember the now he's

1858
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 3: just spitting on people.

1859
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: At the wind.

1860
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you see the last time that was discussing

1861
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 2: the last time they asked Dana about Connor The most

1862
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: recent time, he said he's not sure if he's going

1863
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: to fight this year after all. Wow, he said that.

1864
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: He sounded like kind of disappointed and like.

1865
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, who could imagine that? Hughes you know, Oh,

1866
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 1: he's just around the corner of readiness.

1867
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 2: Do you think there are okay? But do you think

1868
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: there's conversations based on Connor being so close to BKFC

1869
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: and being like facing off with Stevens afterwards? Is there

1870
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: conversations of the brass of like let's just let this

1871
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: guy sit out as long as we possibly can.

1872
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 1: Probably?

1873
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's not like shape. I don't even know. No,

1874
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 3: it doesn't. I mean, I don't even know. That's gonna

1875
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 3: be the biggest problem. Can you get him into a

1876
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 3: camp and stay in a camp focused I mean it

1877
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 3: just that seems like a harder and harder thing as

1878
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 3: he goes on.

1879
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 2: When do you think the last day of full sobriety was?

1880
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: And while it could sound like I'm doing a.

1881
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 3: Bit twenty sixteen, I was gonna say the Eagle brandow

1882
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 3: era No for real?

1883
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: Really, I don't know, not even during that babyface build

1884
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 2: to the Cowboy fight where they were like pretending that

1885
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 2: he was this great dad and no, I think he was.

1886
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: The more they're pretending, the less it was real. That's

1887
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 1: a great point, I think you.

1888
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 2: Hey, how about John Jones's big announcement, Yester, Yeah, I.

1889
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: Was hoping for like you knew that was coming, though,

1890
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 1: I was hoping for a mean coin he would just

1891
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: rug pulled.

1892
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, I'm partnering with you.

1893
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: I thought it would be that. I thought it would

1894
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 3: be that.

1895
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 2: Why not cash to a girl has spoken finally after

1896
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: two months.

1897
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 3: Really spoke. She broke her silence.

1898
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: She did break her silence, But John broke our heart

1899
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 2: because we didn't. At the Aspen All fight, we got

1900
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 2: something else that was weird.

1901
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: But what is a stupid sport we cover?

1902
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 2: Anyway, thoughts, enjoy the fights this weekend It's been a

1903
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 2: pleasure to sit next to Chuck Minden Hall, who has

1904
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 2: been able to float between rival factions and MMA a

1905
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: long time, you know, acting like you belong wherever you go. Chuck,

1906
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 2: I have to believe you're a credit to the m

1907
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 2: m A community. I think that once you become a

1908
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: little older and crustier, you could become the Burt Sugar.

1909
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 3: You think so, Yes, I'd have to start writing a

1910
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 3: few more books, but yes, I could do that.

1911
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: What do you think about him as the Burt Sugar

1912
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 2: of MMA?

1913
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: Get my fedora like that? I think that's a death sentence.

1914
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: Well it ends in death's a cigar too.

1915
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 1: I was alive. Like there's there's like donks watching in

1916
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: their twenties or like Burt Sugar. Who the fuck is

1917
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: that right?

1918
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 3: They think you're saying Burnt Sugar like some kind.

1919
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: Of that, we're saying Burt Chryst.

1920
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy's that guy's one of the worst comedians

1921
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: in the world.

1922
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: It's really he's not.

1923
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 3: Really a comedian.

1924
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: He's just a loud oath Yeah.

1925
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: Here you fo this tradition of people moving to to

1926
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 2: Texas right now.

1927
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 3: No, I don't know what's going on.

1928
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: I'd rather be shot in the face with liquid e

1929
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 1: bowla than moved to Austin, Texas.

1930
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 2: Okay, because because it was Rogan Texas.

1931
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I've lost track.

1932
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 1: Man.

1933
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 3: I remember obviously Rogan going moving.

1934
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: That's a real this dude.

1935
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: This dude went all the way out there to talk

1936
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 3: to Rogan.

1937
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: I mean you had to enjoy think you know about

1938
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: your friend's life.

1939
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: You know, you stopped returning my text, but you would

1940
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: at him a couple of times like, well, he's stopped

1941
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: returning it long before that. I've said this before. The

1942
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,759
Speaker 1: one day I'm gonna reveal this. This is a true story.

1943
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: I can't tell the whole thing because they would come

1944
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 1: on a small group. We finished recording and we turned

1945
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Speaker 1: the microphones off and I pulled my headphones off, and

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget. He said something to me right as

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Speaker 1: I did that that I didn't think much of at

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Speaker 1: the time, And then since then I've been like, oh, right,

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Speaker 1: I know what he said.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh man, come on, I'm actually five ft three.

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Speaker 2: He's been going hard in the painting.

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Speaker 1: That's actually not true. I don't have anything personal to

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Speaker 1: say about him. Joe was very nice to me.

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Speaker 2: You've been telling the truth.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, telling dude, Telling truth is real bad for

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Speaker 1: your business. It turns out your ship.

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Speaker 2: Free speech, baby, all right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Not that kind of just the cover the truth. Women

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Speaker 1: belong in the kitchen. Oh hey, put the camera on me.

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Speaker 3: Put the.

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Speaker 1: Young men of the world. It will be easier for

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Speaker 1: women to want to kiss you if you don't visibly

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Speaker 1: hate them. That's a free little bit of put free

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Speaker 1: advice a fortune. I can prove your love life. Stop

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Speaker 1: hating them visibly, and they'll like you more.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: There you go, take that one home.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever done anything discussing in a Joseph A.

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Speaker 2: Banks bathroom?

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Speaker 1: I took the dump of my life. I also say,

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Speaker 1: if you're on Google Maps right now, look at the

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Speaker 1: Joseph A. Bank on nineteenth and M.

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Speaker 2: It says closed a north northwest.

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Speaker 1: It's next it's next door to La Boetia, which is

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Speaker 1: like a restaurant. And I took the dump of my

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Speaker 1: absolute life in that place.

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Speaker 3: I've noticed in a pattern of closed bathrooms wherever you're at,

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Speaker 3: Like even this one here at the studio.

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Speaker 1: Is close at the boys gagging the smell. All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, morning combats UFC three twelve pregame preview, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by our friends. Hey, random applause for our

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Speaker 1: friends at Quarevella. Ladies and gentlemen, random applause, taking good

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Speaker 1: care of us, taking care of you. Now is a

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Speaker 1: good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. There

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Speaker 1: you have it. Our friends at Querreva for Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 1: for the Iceman, welcome back, Jackson of course bowling down,

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Speaker 1: and Luke and all of our friends here in the

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Speaker 1: production studio. I'm Luke Thomas. This has been our UFC

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Speaker 1: three twelve pregame preview. Enjoy the fights. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: all on Monday.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.