WEBVTT - The Marshall Islands, Part Four: Water Is Life

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<v Speaker 1>This for all you guys, so you get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Twice In the week I spent on Marjoro, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get to sleep until after midnight because the hotel's event

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<v Speaker 2>space was about eight feet from my pillow and someone

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<v Speaker 2>in that event space was having an absolute rago. Before

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<v Speaker 2>trying and failing to go to sleep, I chatted with

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<v Speaker 2>some folks who were at the party to see what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on. The first night was a first birthday party.

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<v Speaker 2>Infant mortality has been so high in this area in

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<v Speaker 2>the past that children making it through the first year

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<v Speaker 2>of their life was a cause for massive celebration. It

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<v Speaker 2>was rather sweet to see adults enjoying such a good

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<v Speaker 2>time around a one year old who had no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on. The next party, a few days

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<v Speaker 2>later was no less festive, but for a much more

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<v Speaker 2>somber reason. It was a celebration to an eight year

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<v Speaker 2>old girl who died exactly one year before. People showed

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<v Speaker 2>me her photo, and despite my condolences, they assured me

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<v Speaker 2>that it wasn't a sad affair. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>make this series a sad affair either, because despite the

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<v Speaker 2>incredible challenges they have faced, Marshally's people have persevered, and

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<v Speaker 2>they clearly have a great pride in their islands, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they would want to be seen as

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<v Speaker 2>helpless and acted upon by global forces beyond their control. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>they should be seen as a strong community that has

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<v Speaker 2>withstood some of the worst things a history can thriller

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<v Speaker 2>community and continue to thrive. As we spoke about yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>they're taking huge steps to ensure that they lead the

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<v Speaker 2>way on sustainable development. They're also ensuring their future in

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<v Speaker 2>other ways. Some of those might not be as shiny

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<v Speaker 2>and glitzy as solar power grids or canoes powered by

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<v Speaker 2>the sun, but which have made a huge difference to

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<v Speaker 2>the residence of the country, particularly in the outer atolls.

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<v Speaker 2>What I want to talk about today is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those projects. It's a project imagined, implemented, and executed by

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<v Speaker 2>the women of Quarter in the name means women who

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<v Speaker 2>rise at dawn, and it's very appropriate every interview you've

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<v Speaker 2>heard so far and every place we went to thanks

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<v Speaker 2>to the women of Kio. The trip I was part

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<v Speaker 2>of was there to witness the installation of the final

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<v Speaker 2>water filters on the island of wrong Ram that will

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<v Speaker 2>bring to a successful conclusion a five year project to

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<v Speaker 2>ensure that every single person in the Marshall Islands had

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<v Speaker 2>access to clean water. I'll let them introduce themselves to

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<v Speaker 2>you as it did to us.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Francine wasase Jacklick, but most people around

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<v Speaker 1>town called me, so if you hear Francine, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go today. I am a queu member. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one of the officers as the secretary, and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>a queue member of GOSH. I can't remember when, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know we've got we've come along when he is

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<v Speaker 1>about seventeen years old right now? Wow, seventeen. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun road.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my fun job outside from Q. As my fun work,

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<v Speaker 1>I work at the Ministry of Health and Human Services.

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<v Speaker 1>My permanent position is the Deputy Secretary overseeing Office of

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<v Speaker 1>Health Planning, Policy, Preparedness, Personnel and epidem analogy. And three

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<v Speaker 1>months ago I was also given the authority rule as

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<v Speaker 1>the acting Secretary of Health because the Secretary was not

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<v Speaker 1>the nude politics. So yeah, Q is q Corina Rani

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<v Speaker 1>and we're very happy because our founder is here and

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<v Speaker 1>it's money.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll do introduction and then we'll go into the agenda.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that okay, okay, so I will hand it to

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<v Speaker 4>the bag, which is our founder money.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody go ahead, ill everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, how come my money?

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<v Speaker 6>I am the cocoon there?

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<v Speaker 7>You actually not.

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<v Speaker 6>We're really happy that you've made it. You know, your

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<v Speaker 6>flight wasn't canceled last week. So many flights are canceled,

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<v Speaker 6>so were so but welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>In our language, we say yah yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Means rainbow and quays you.

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<v Speaker 7>So you are a rainbow to us.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a mother for now.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't work.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of us have their work, but I'm a full

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<v Speaker 3>time mother and this is my baby. Actually, Kiyo started

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen years ago. Myself and a friend.

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<v Speaker 5>We were in school in the East Coast and we

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<v Speaker 5>graduated and we all came back and you know, we

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<v Speaker 5>were raised with this mentality to give back.

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<v Speaker 3>We have lots of Marshallese proverbs and what bio means.

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<v Speaker 7>To turn the tides.

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<v Speaker 8>So it was our time to turn the tides.

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<v Speaker 3>So we banded together, always like minded, smart ladies and

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<v Speaker 3>created Q And it's a volunteer organization.

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<v Speaker 7>We do this in our sleep.

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<v Speaker 9>Basically all volunteer, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So we do various work from small projects like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>reading with the kids and just.

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<v Speaker 6>Big projects like water.

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<v Speaker 4>It's water culture project.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Kathleen. I work for the Ministry of

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<v Speaker 5>Natural Resources and Commerce with the Fisheries.

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<v Speaker 8>Memora and I've been in film members and it's of

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<v Speaker 8>course you're what sixteen years ago and it is like

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<v Speaker 8>moving said, it's it's an honor and we are very

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<v Speaker 8>humble when visited. A welcome you all and hope we

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<v Speaker 8>have a great visit.

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<v Speaker 10>Thank you, Okay, names all.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but my name is Samantha.

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<v Speaker 11>I work at the Munictrial Fight Access as an accountant

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<v Speaker 11>and I'm cure of treasure.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you, thank.

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<v Speaker 13>You me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, why everyone, and welcome you to our shore.

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<v Speaker 14>My name is Graised, but everyone call me Kuma.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm very pleased to meet all of you.

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<v Speaker 14>When they say we have uh all these media, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>big news media, I would let come. We probably say

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<v Speaker 14>that I was kind of nervous, but anyways, I've been

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<v Speaker 14>a few remembers since twenty fourteen, and I was so

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<v Speaker 14>amazed by all the work that these ladies have been

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<v Speaker 14>doing for the Marshall Islands. And I'm there probably be

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<v Speaker 14>part of quet club. I work at Romola at all

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<v Speaker 14>Local Government and I'm not sure you know, but Ronav

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<v Speaker 14>is one of those. It's all that was affected by

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<v Speaker 14>the nuclear testing.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, welcome here. Work with Sawyer, the people who

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<v Speaker 2>make the Ubiquitous water filter, which is a favorite for

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<v Speaker 2>through hikers and other outdoors people, to provide a water

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<v Speaker 2>filtration system that allows Marshal's people to filter the rain

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<v Speaker 2>water they collect and remove harmful bacteria that can cause

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<v Speaker 2>diarrhea and vomiting. Well, these might seem undesirables listeners in

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<v Speaker 2>the US, they can be fatal in other settings. Twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>around one point five million people died from diarrheal diseases.

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<v Speaker 2>That's more than all violent deaths combined. Around half a

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<v Speaker 2>million of those deaths were children. One thing that's remarkable

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<v Speaker 2>about the project is a way it was realized. KEO

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<v Speaker 2>began distribution in the most remote and hard to reach

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<v Speaker 2>the tolls, taking tiny boats across choppy seas for days

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<v Speaker 2>at a time to get to remote islands, and then

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<v Speaker 2>working with traditional women leaders to ensure that everyone on

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<v Speaker 2>the islands knew how to use the filters. Then they

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<v Speaker 2>began working towards Marjora the capitol. I've seen lots of

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<v Speaker 2>ENDO projects in dozens of countries I've worked with someone,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've rarely seen a model that prioritizes need this well.

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<v Speaker 2>In far too many cases, proximity to power ensures access

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<v Speaker 2>to resources. This is a global problem. Just look at

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<v Speaker 2>how the US distributed masks and COVID resources to reservations

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<v Speaker 2>last or if I step outside, they can see how

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<v Speaker 2>the lowest income parts of San Diego, the city I

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<v Speaker 2>live in, have the worst roads and get the least

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<v Speaker 2>infrastructure spending. The fact that KYO did things differently is

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<v Speaker 2>a testament to the strength of their commitment to their community.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, the project finished distribution during my trip to

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<v Speaker 2>Marshall Islands, completing the last island on madro Atoll in

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<v Speaker 2>early July, but a few days later than that, when

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<v Speaker 2>QO invited myself and some other journalists to a goodbye breakfast,

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<v Speaker 2>they presented a filter to the former President of the

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<v Speaker 2>Republic of Marshall Islands, hilde Hind, Despite being the last

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<v Speaker 2>person to get one. She was very grateful and it

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<v Speaker 2>served as a great illustration of the priorities of the group.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted to go to the hardest places first because

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<v Speaker 2>they knew people then needed help. The most his President

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<v Speaker 2>Hilde Heine. After receiving her filter.

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<v Speaker 9>I was telling Monique that we don't drink from our

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<v Speaker 9>tab water hours we have our own system, or we

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<v Speaker 9>don't know if it's cleaned, so we buy our drinking

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<v Speaker 9>water all the time. So with this one I probably

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<v Speaker 9>will stop bang for to make pure water.

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<v Speaker 2>I joined Kio and several other journalists for the final

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<v Speaker 2>leg of their project, which involves installing the water filters.

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<v Speaker 2>This doesn't really take long. They're basically a soil filter

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<v Speaker 2>attached to a five gallon bucket with a length of

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<v Speaker 2>flexible hose, and then explaining their value and upkeep to

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<v Speaker 2>the community. As we heard yesterday, ground water is harder

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<v Speaker 2>and harder to come by in the Marshall Islands thanks

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<v Speaker 2>to climate change, and so people rely almost exclusively on rainwater.

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<v Speaker 2>They collect rainwater in giant plastic tanks. They've only recently

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<v Speaker 2>replaced a hodgepodge of different collection vessels. Incidentally, a visiting

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<v Speaker 2>scientist from a CDC told me that the installation of

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<v Speaker 2>these tanks has increased a safe disposal of waste because

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<v Speaker 2>people no longer need to take their bins to collect

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<v Speaker 2>rainwater when it rains. Once water is in the tanks.

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<v Speaker 2>The residents can draw it out into their five gallon

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<v Speaker 2>bucket and then filter it for safe drinking. The soil

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<v Speaker 2>filter system may seem very simple, and it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's what makes it a perfect solution here. A complicated

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<v Speaker 2>electric filter, or one that relied on pipe water pressure

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<v Speaker 2>or had a ton of moving parts would require constant maintenance,

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<v Speaker 2>which is hard given a long journey to the outer Islands.

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<v Speaker 2>In my career in journalism and in nonprofit, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>countless well intentioned aid projects completely failed to consider the

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<v Speaker 2>need for sustainability and become useless olities in a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Cargo bikes made a huge different coffee farmers in Rwanda

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<v Speaker 2>until they needed new brake pads and there wasn't an

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<v Speaker 2>importer for them. The same goes for countless glucometers I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen distributed to people who can't access the batteries they

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<v Speaker 2>use or the test trips they rely on. This won't

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<v Speaker 2>happen in the Marshall Islands in part because the project

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<v Speaker 2>was led by the community itself and not by outside

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<v Speaker 2>nonprofits looking to maximize donation dollars or media opportunities, and

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<v Speaker 2>in part because the only maintenance or sort of filter

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<v Speaker 2>needs is a backflush of the filtered water that it makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday we had a little from the Marshal Lee's Environmental

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<v Speaker 2>Protection Agency about how they grapple with climate change. Today,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to explain how they're working alongside KIO to

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<v Speaker 2>ensure that even as sea levels rise, Marshal's people will

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<v Speaker 2>have access to safe water. The Marshal Lease EPA works

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<v Speaker 2>to ensure that the water in people's tanks isn't contaminated,

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<v Speaker 2>and the filters that KIA provided work to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that even if it is, people won't get sick. They

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<v Speaker 2>often travel to the outer islons together to reduce the

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<v Speaker 2>cost sharing a small boat. It's a rare example of

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<v Speaker 2>a nonprofit in the government working together without competing or

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<v Speaker 2>doing the same thing twice. At first, Marianna explained, people

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<v Speaker 2>weren't sure that such a tiny filter could make such

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<v Speaker 2>a big difference, so KIA worked with the EPA to

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<v Speaker 2>use a visual test for microbial activity to show people

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<v Speaker 2>how effective it was. He She is explaining how the

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<v Speaker 2>EPA helped KIO build trust in the efficacy of the

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<v Speaker 2>soil filters.

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<v Speaker 12>When Sires and Kio approached us with the filters. Before that,

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of people were already asking us, so, can

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<v Speaker 12>we can we trust this, you know, can you do

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<v Speaker 12>a test in your lab to tell us and confirm

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<v Speaker 12>that this is, you know, as good as the claim

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<v Speaker 12>it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing the test allowed the e PA to help ko

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<v Speaker 2>get greater uptake for their filters and allowed Kio to

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<v Speaker 2>help the EPA achieve one of its mandated goals.

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<v Speaker 12>And so when we produced these very visual like Quanta

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<v Speaker 12>Quanta or Quanti trays, the the experts will.

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<v Speaker 11>Get into it.

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<v Speaker 12>But when we produce them and show a visual contrast

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<v Speaker 12>between the water before the filter and then the water

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<v Speaker 12>before the after the filter filtration, it was you know amazing,

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<v Speaker 12>like it's it's so clean, and you know, we we

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<v Speaker 12>make decisions based on science, and that science right there,

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<v Speaker 12>and so we use that visual photograph outside of that

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<v Speaker 12>that that meeting to show people, you know, we're not

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<v Speaker 12>going to get in to the microbils of whatever. This

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<v Speaker 12>is the difference the water before the filter and then after.

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<v Speaker 3>And so.

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<v Speaker 12>We're just really happy that Kiyo was able to include us.

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<v Speaker 12>This is one of our mandates, but we're never resourced

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<v Speaker 12>that way to do all of the things that we

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<v Speaker 12>want to do to address water quality issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's impossible to deal with the water issue

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<v Speaker 2>in isolation. Everything in the Marshall Islands are really anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>elsewhere you're paying attention has to take into account the

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<v Speaker 2>impact of climate change and how communities are going to

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<v Speaker 2>survive when faced with an increasingly hostile home planet. No

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<v Speaker 2>yain't explained how access to clean water helps make the

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<v Speaker 2>community in the Marshall Islands even more resilient.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, if you're trying to survive, the last thing you

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<v Speaker 12>want to worry about is an outbreak of diarrhea or

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<v Speaker 12>apatitis or you know, water born diseases that are preventable,

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<v Speaker 12>and so clean water, you know you're much much more

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<v Speaker 12>better as a community if you can thrive and on

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<v Speaker 12>clean water. It's as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 1>Water is life.

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<v Speaker 2>One night during my trip to the Marshall Islands, I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to join Kia for a dinner that celebrated

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<v Speaker 2>the completion of their water project, meaning that everyone in

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<v Speaker 2>the Marshall Islands had access to water that won't make

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<v Speaker 2>them sick. To get a better sense of what this

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<v Speaker 2>really means, I wanted to talk to some families who

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<v Speaker 2>had received those filters and to see what the clean

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<v Speaker 2>water access meant to them. We've all heard that water

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<v Speaker 2>is life, and that was a slogan news for Kio's project,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's difficult to appreciate that if you live in

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<v Speaker 2>a place where you can just turn on a tap

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<v Speaker 2>and have access to clean, safe water whenever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>When Kio made their posters for that dinner, they included

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<v Speaker 2>a photo of a little girl on Arno Island who'd

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<v Speaker 2>been one of the first to receive their filters, happily

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<v Speaker 2>drinking from a jar of clean water. That was back

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen. Since then they thought they'd heard the

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<v Speaker 2>terrible news that she died, but just before the dinner

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<v Speaker 2>they found out she hadn't, and so they invited her

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<v Speaker 2>to join the celebration. I was able to sit down

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<v Speaker 2>with her, her mother, and other recipients of the filters

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<v Speaker 2>for a quick interview via translator. On the tiny island

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<v Speaker 2>of boken Boat, al.

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<v Speaker 7>So, they never filtered the water before. They would drink

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<v Speaker 7>straight from the water wells or the water catchments.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes, she said, people would get sick. We also spoke

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<v Speaker 2>to Aneiti, a resident of Wrong Wrong, on the day

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<v Speaker 2>that she got her filter Frontine helped translate her.

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<v Speaker 15>Responses, Yanity, thank you, okay, but she had heard about

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<v Speaker 15>that there was going to be filters coming to the island.

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<v Speaker 1>When she first heard, she thought the filters were going

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<v Speaker 1>to go directly to the water tanks. And now that

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<v Speaker 1>it's more accessible, it's like she saw this bucket. She's happy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's better. It's better.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Recently there have been an outbreak of diary around the atoll,

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<v Speaker 2>so this was a welcome relief.

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<v Speaker 1>So she had heard that there was optic of cases

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<v Speaker 1>in major, the capital, and when she had first learned

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<v Speaker 1>about her she was scared and worried. But to hear

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<v Speaker 1>that there's folks coming here to the island to check

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<v Speaker 1>on the water, it made them feel a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>You addings the family from Ana who travel a long

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<v Speaker 2>way on a small boat to meet us, we're looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to getting back to their home. Life on the

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<v Speaker 2>outer a tolls isn't easy, but it's not one they

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<v Speaker 2>want to walk away from. With the threat of climate

0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.119
<v Speaker 2>change already putting their home in peril, having access to

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<v Speaker 2>clean water must be a welcome relief. I asked to say,

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<v Speaker 2>preferred life here on the Capitol a toll or back home.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, she says life in the outer Islands is better.

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<v Speaker 7>There's more space, more freedom to move around for the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>There are things she'd like to change, of course, but

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<v Speaker 2>mostly her concern was preserving their little piece of paradise

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<v Speaker 2>for future generations.

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<v Speaker 7>She'd like her kids to be able to enjoy access

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<v Speaker 7>to clean water, whether it be through more water catchments

0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:57.879
<v Speaker 7>that are being available to the family, and also the

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<v Speaker 7>electric city as you mentioned, perhaps with the generator stuff

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<v Speaker 7>like that to make life more easier being the outer lands.

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<v Speaker 7>She'd like to, you know, like in the future, be

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<v Speaker 7>able to see the fishing grounds preserved as well as

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<v Speaker 7>the land for their farming needs.

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<v Speaker 2>The way here works with local communities because they're from

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<v Speaker 2>local communities, enables them to be much more effective than

0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.880
<v Speaker 2>a nonprofit which comes from outside the community. On wrong

0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:37.399
<v Speaker 2>wrong they joke to laugh at local women Whenik's husband

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.359
<v Speaker 2>comes from the island, so they were already welcome, and

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<v Speaker 2>then after some time bantering, they explained the way the

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<v Speaker 2>water filters work in marshal Leeds families. They're still a

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<v Speaker 2>fairly gender division of labor in many cases, and it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to be that the women on the island were

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who stayed to learn about the filters, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was appropriate that it was women who were teaching them.

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<v Speaker 2>Preservation doesn't mean they can't change. The Marshall Islands have

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<v Speaker 2>seen a huge change in the last few years, and

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<v Speaker 2>much of that is down to the dedicated work of

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<v Speaker 2>a large number of women who form community groups to

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<v Speaker 2>empower each other and address social, ecological and public health

0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 2>issues that are facing their communities. The umbrella organization that

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<v Speaker 2>works with these women's groups is called whit Me. I

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<v Speaker 2>let Maria from Whitney explain what that means and why

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<v Speaker 2>they started the group in the first place.

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<v Speaker 11>First of all, welcome, as you know, with ME stands

0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.320
<v Speaker 11>for women in Needed Together marshal Allands. It also means

0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:36.480
<v Speaker 11>in Marshalise your flower, and that's how we wanted the

0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 11>acronym to be to mean both English and Marshalise. And

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<v Speaker 11>as it was established in nineteen eighty seven to fill

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<v Speaker 11>a gap with respect to the advancement of women. In

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<v Speaker 11>nineteen seventy five there was the Decade for Women Union

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<v Speaker 11>Decade for Women, and there were two conferences that took

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<v Speaker 11>place and there were a lot of issues that came

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<v Speaker 11>about In those two meetings, they were dealing with domestic violence,

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<v Speaker 11>alcohol abuse, suicide, the youth, other problems of child abuse

0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:24.760
<v Speaker 11>and neglect. So from those women started to meet, at

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<v Speaker 11>least some women started to talk about this was there

0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:31.920
<v Speaker 11>were no representatives of women in the decision making bodies,

0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:35.879
<v Speaker 11>whether at the local government levels or at the national level.

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<v Speaker 11>So that's and we got the support of our traditional

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<v Speaker 11>women leaders.

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Woman works alongside traditional leaders are not around them. The

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<v Speaker 2>same was true of all the programs that have been

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<v Speaker 2>successful on the islands. On our last day, we visited

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<v Speaker 2>one the program that builds the canoes we heard about.

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<v Speaker 2>Although the programs founded to preserve the cultural heritage of

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.400
<v Speaker 2>the islands and their unique seafaring technologies, some of which

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.960
<v Speaker 2>are only just being replicated in modern crafted Europe in

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the USA, it also responded to a need that the

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:11.679
<v Speaker 2>community had. In this case, that need was education.

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<v Speaker 10>So we are a training program for at risk young

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<v Speaker 10>men and women of the Martial Lands who It started

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<v Speaker 10>out as a project back in the eighties. One of

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:28.280
<v Speaker 10>our twenty found co founder of this program. The museum

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<v Speaker 10>contracted him to go through various islands within the Republic.

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<v Speaker 10>And you're talking about back in the eighties and we

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<v Speaker 10>were losing our designs fasts. People were coming to Maaguro

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<v Speaker 10>or going to the States, which is going off islands

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<v Speaker 10>to the many reasons, and because of that, they wanted

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:52.280
<v Speaker 10>to capture that uniqueness of these design But when he

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 10>was going through from one adult to another, he noticed

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<v Speaker 10>that there were a lot of young kids not going

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<v Speaker 10>to school. I am sure you if you're aware of it.

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<v Speaker 10>But throughout the republic there's only about four or five

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 10>high schools, and most of them are a boarding school.

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<v Speaker 10>So for example, I grew up in Jeluit, and in

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<v Speaker 10>that at all there's a high school, boarding high school,

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:22.120
<v Speaker 10>and then it gators to about six or seven other islands.

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<v Speaker 10>So parents have no choice but to send their kids.

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<v Speaker 10>If they want to go beyond eight grade, you have

0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 10>to leave home and go to these boarding schools.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to offering a skill set and an education,

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the program has counselors in mental health and addiction. They

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 2>teach young men and women maths, literacy, and how to

0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.480
<v Speaker 2>build the canoes, but they also empower them in creating

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 2>the sustainable alternative transport method that will be vital in

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 2>building a sustainable future for their home likewise would meet

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.119
<v Speaker 2>the approach. It's based on listening to people.

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<v Speaker 17>Women a chiefs you know, will let them know what

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 17>we'll be doing and what what would they want us

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<v Speaker 17>to do, and we has tom to talk with their

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.399
<v Speaker 17>you know, like because these women chiefs are owning some

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.720
<v Speaker 17>of the neighboring islands and they know their people and

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 17>do need assessments so they can really understand what their

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.920
<v Speaker 17>needs are because all their neighboring islands are different needs.

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<v Speaker 2>They make an effort to tie their efforts to traditional

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Marshalist principles and in doing so they keep their culture alive.

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<v Speaker 11>So being together and getting this the other thing that

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<v Speaker 11>with me as done, which is connect our our being

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 11>to our culture. Being a matrilineal society, we have different

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 11>sayings or traditional traditional roles of women. Yeah, and then

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 11>we have our domestic balance when it's called whether in

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:53.360
<v Speaker 11>weather meaning it's a land parcel, no mean to be alive,

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 11>to live and not to be killed as opposed to

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 11>being abused. So what do is somewhere you go to

0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 11>and you're able to live freely or in a being

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 11>I mean you're well protected. So in all our conferences

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 11>we do use these traditionals, so that it's something that

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 11>it's not new, it's traditional, so they cannot say, you know,

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 11>you cannot do that because it's a tradition, and we

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 11>keep the culture alive through that way as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost everyone you've heard from in this series, aside from

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 2>the Man, is a member of With Me or both.

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Kio is one of the chapters With Me and many

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 2>of the leaders as the Daughters of Woodman's Leadership With Me,

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 2>have implemented parent as teacher, early childhood education programs, domestic

0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:01.200
<v Speaker 2>violence prevention programs, and many other social economic programs across

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:05.120
<v Speaker 2>the islands. The results are easy to see. All over

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the Marshall Islands, government officers and NGOs are run by women. Now,

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the Marshall Islands had the first woman president in the

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 2>whole Pacific, and she was elected in January twenty sixteen,

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 2>a year when rampant misogyny was more evident than ever

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 2>in the United States presidential election. Of course, many Marshal

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 2>LEAs women go to the United States, and Woman's Members

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 2>are no exception.

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<v Speaker 11>One of the major challenges has been to make sure

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 11>that we keep the organization intact. You guys, it's especially

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 11>at present time, because there's a lot about migration that

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.439
<v Speaker 11>we have to constantly work, especially with women in the

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 11>islands where they are. They come and then they're stay

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 11>long in the urban areas, they just migrate out. So

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 11>now there are so many of them that they're trying

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 11>to form women's group in the in the United States

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:03.960
<v Speaker 11>as well. Seeing so so they come and visit US

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 11>and we communicate with them occasionally, share and sharing information

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 11>or other issues because what the issues they experienced, you know,

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:18.240
<v Speaker 11>they're also experience in the United States, and so they

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 11>need to be aware of how we're trying to deal

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 11>with those.

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>But many women also go to the US for their

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 2>education and then return to be part of their community

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and help lift their community up. Now, thanks to Whipman's

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 2>hard work and the government's efforts, women don't have to

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>leave to get these skills. The Energy Department has trained

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 2>women on outer islands, for example, to fix their own

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 2>power grades.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so we're kind of all over the place, and

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<v Speaker 13>one time we went and actually uh train a community

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 13>of all women, like uh, you know, we had to

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:59.199
<v Speaker 13>include men to allow women to be part of the training,

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 13>and we have nine women that graduated certified trainers and

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 13>we awarded them with tools and everything, so.

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 10>When there's.

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 13>Power outages and there's solar home systems and they can

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.360
<v Speaker 13>address it. And Grace who's in the middle, that that's

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 13>the island where she's from, where we train the woman

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<v Speaker 13>to become trainers, and it's our first ever. So when

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<v Speaker 13>we found that it was successful, we try to extend

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<v Speaker 13>it out to the other islands. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 13>one of the reasons why it's difficult for countries such

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<v Speaker 13>as US where we've been colonized and trying to find

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<v Speaker 13>a balance between a modern day government form of democracy

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<v Speaker 13>where you're taught that individualism is important and your rights

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<v Speaker 13>are important, and then you have your traditional structure where

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<v Speaker 13>when you're grow up, you're taught that it's a collective society.

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<v Speaker 13>Your piety is important, respecting your thoughts are not worth it.

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<v Speaker 13>Your elders and you know your chiefs in So I

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<v Speaker 13>think that's where we have to find the balance.

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<v Speaker 2>This comment that Angeline made in our chat after her

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<v Speaker 2>excellent presentation on energy sovereignty really got me thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>the post colonial future of the Marshall Islands. Today, they're

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<v Speaker 2>empowered as an independent nation, but they still have to

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<v Speaker 2>exist within a framework where corporations and more powerful governments

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to pay for the consequences of their actions.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty two, the US unsealed indictment of a

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese couple who bribe five Marshallease members of parliament and

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<v Speaker 2>attempted to bribe a six in order to help them

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<v Speaker 2>carve out a kind of mini state, a so called

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<v Speaker 2>special economic zone, as a tax haven on wronga Lapatole.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of the places is heavily impacted by

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<v Speaker 2>the nuclear testing we spoke about earlier. Hildehind, among others,

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<v Speaker 2>opposed this. She said economic di element is and should

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<v Speaker 2>be encouraged, but not at the expense of money laundering

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<v Speaker 2>and other similarly ill activities that are usually a part

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<v Speaker 2>of money laundering. As was obvious in the wrong l

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<v Speaker 2>Appatol Special Administrative Region legislation, the people of wrong Glapp

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<v Speaker 2>deserved better standards of living and economic development. While there's

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<v Speaker 2>no evidence of CCP involvement in the scheme, it came

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<v Speaker 2>as part of a larger panic about Beijing's influence in

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<v Speaker 2>the region. Twenty twenty two, the Solomon Islands signed a

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<v Speaker 2>pack with China to help improve their internal security, and

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<v Speaker 2>China has already provided the Solomons with police training and

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<v Speaker 2>donated replica guns and riot control equipment such as water

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<v Speaker 2>cannon vehicles. The Solomon Islands are still covered in bombs

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<v Speaker 2>from the US and Japan's fighting in the Pacific, but

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<v Speaker 2>instead of helping dispose of these, this form of investment

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<v Speaker 2>is sending more weapons to the government, not help to

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<v Speaker 2>the people there. According to a recent published study in

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<v Speaker 2>the journal Science, the world's corporations produce so much climate

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<v Speaker 2>change causing pollution that it would eat up forty four

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<v Speaker 2>percent of their so they had to pay damages for

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<v Speaker 2>the impact of their activity. Your reusable straw might help,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's good that you're using it, But until the

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<v Speaker 2>world and giant corporations especially listen to the voices of

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<v Speaker 2>people impacted by our choices, things won't change. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to end by talking about the future of the Marshall

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<v Speaker 2>Islands and how Marshallysee people are determining that in the

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<v Speaker 2>last century they've been let down by the League of

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<v Speaker 2>Nations who reallocated the islands to the Japanese under Southeast Mandate,

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<v Speaker 2>then let down by the US and the UN after

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<v Speaker 2>the war, and They're still being let down by international

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<v Speaker 2>institutions today when their demands for climate fairless are ignored,

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<v Speaker 2>But this doesn't mean they can't benefit from international solidarity.

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<v Speaker 2>It was American made water filters and a significant donation

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<v Speaker 2>from a company better known for hiking that helped every

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<v Speaker 2>single person in the Marshall Islands get clean water. It

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<v Speaker 2>was Greenpeace who relocated people when the US government wouldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was Marshally's women who took week long Norse

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<v Speaker 2>or induced boat rides across dangerous seas to distribute those

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<v Speaker 2>water filters that save lives in places where there's less

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<v Speaker 2>access to care. With access to the right resources and

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<v Speaker 2>international solidarity and good will, the possibilities for the Marshall

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<v Speaker 2>Islands seem endless. They've endured World War, survived the dropping

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<v Speaker 2>of the atom bond, and they're adapting to climate change

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<v Speaker 2>by centering community and their obligations to each other rather

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<v Speaker 2>than trying to each take what they can and get out.

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<v Speaker 2>With access to clean water and homes free of smoke,

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<v Speaker 2>their children will be healthier, and every child I met

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<v Speaker 2>on the island seem to have bright hopes for the future.

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<v Speaker 2>I met one kid who wanted to be a basketball player,

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<v Speaker 2>and another who aspired to apparently be as tall as

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<v Speaker 2>I am. People in the Islands don't focus on their past,

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<v Speaker 2>but on their future, and with a little solidarity and

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<v Speaker 2>decency from the rest of the world, they have a

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<v Speaker 2>very bright one. I want to finish this series with

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<v Speaker 2>the explanation we got from Whitney of the Marshal Lely's flag.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great flag, by the way, and you should

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<v Speaker 2>look it up if you haven't seen it. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most common flags of convenience for merchant vessels

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<v Speaker 2>all over the world. I've seen it in several continents

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<v Speaker 2>but never really knew what it meant. At least for now,

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed to mean that these tiny islands, which have

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<v Speaker 2>been through so much still have great hopes for the future.

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<v Speaker 11>The Marshalist flag there's two the orange and the white right,

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<v Speaker 11>and there they represented the relic chain and the Radit chain,

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<v Speaker 11>the sunrise chain of island and the sensor chain of

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<v Speaker 11>violent which formed the Marshal Land. So those two lines,

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<v Speaker 11>but those lines there's one orange and one weight. Orange

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<v Speaker 11>is for courage, it's called cleo and and the white

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<v Speaker 11>is for peace. So but these lines are not parallel.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean they become larger as they move up, and

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<v Speaker 11>they don't start from the corner. They start from a

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<v Speaker 11>little bit over the corner of the flag, meaning that

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<v Speaker 11>we have a past. We didn't start from the beginning

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<v Speaker 11>when we started this new government in nineteen seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 11>And then you have the moves out. It doesn't go

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<v Speaker 11>all the way to the corner at the top because

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<v Speaker 11>we're always growing. There's so you know, we're always growing.

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<v Speaker 11>We need to grow. It's very important.

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