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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackout Tips Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Rod, joined us always by my co

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Speaker 2: not alone. As you've probably seen from the show description,

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Speaker 2: possibly the title, definitely the show notes. We have a guest.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is stand up comedian play Right for Hidden Fences,

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Speaker 2: the color Arcle TV writer for The Marvelous Missus masel

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Speaker 2: Abvid Elementary and Atlanta on FX It's Jordan Temple. What's

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Speaker 2: going on? Bro?

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Speaker 1: What's up? By eleven?

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Speaker 2: Great?

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Speaker 1: About thirty minutes ago? Feeling good about it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. When we were coordinating this, you know, behind the scenes,

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Speaker 2: it was like, Okay, what time you want to start

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Speaker 2: or whatever. You know, we basically tell the guests the

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Speaker 2: I said, yeah, we can start at anywhere from like

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Speaker 2: ten am, R side or whatever. And he's on the

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Speaker 2: this brother is industrious around the morning. I'm like, on

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Speaker 2: the West Coast, all right, eight A Okay, brothers, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna be up then. Yeah, I've been over there at

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Speaker 3: Changes something else because when we was over there, I

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Speaker 2: By like new But Jordan, let me ask you this man,

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Speaker 2: how you get started in this whole like comedy thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know you're native New Yorker and I

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Speaker 2: was listening to some podcasts you were on and stuff

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Speaker 2: how being born in New York, you're already into quote

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Speaker 2: unquote big city of dreams. But since you lived there,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like you almost forget you can just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well from I'm from Queens. You know, it's like

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Speaker 2: They're like, all right, cool, it was nice Rod, five o'clock,

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Speaker 2: see you later, right, And it's interesting that like artists space,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was kind of moving around also. My brother

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying, yeah, mama too, right, Yeah, my grandma

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Speaker 2: So with the improv thing, like, was it like you said, Okay,

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Speaker 2: was it like like, what's the what's the lead between that?

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Speaker 1: ain't playing Kendrick before the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like when it's like whenever we have a guest

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Speaker 2: are like introducing them a bit to the to the viewers,

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Speaker 2: because uh, you know sometimes I mean I could just

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Speaker 2: hop in like this is my nigga Jordan, you know,

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Speaker 2: this is our first time virtually meaning be like, anyway,

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Speaker 2: so what you think about the school shooting. You know,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of be like, all right, let's

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Speaker 2: before we throw any curve balls at them.

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Speaker 1: Pull out hop out made it look sexy, all right,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was after improv. It was like and

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Speaker 1: like pride themselves on starting in their teens, and it's like,

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Speaker 2: That's not no, yeah, it's low key low key. It

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Speaker 1: called complated hidden Figures and fences into Hidden Fences, and

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Speaker 1: And then my friend Likeston so he used to do

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Speaker 2: He used to do this thing.

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Speaker 1: He used to do these things online for something. It's

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he'd be hosting that and he bring us

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Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I was gonna say, like, how

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Speaker 2: again to get like like refresh it or just do

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I could. I want to refresh it.

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Speaker 1: At one point it was like ten people and I

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Speaker 1: switched it around, moved it. But yeah, that got me like,

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Speaker 1: like interviews at least they're like interests, you know, into

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Speaker 1: like my own writing. So at my first writing job,

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Speaker 1: like twenty seventeen, the Showtime Show, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: had like ten different stagings of that. And then yeah,

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Speaker 1: Then I did the color earcle in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, tell everybody about the color earle.

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Speaker 1: Let me show you all the posters you show.

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Speaker 2: For those listen to this audio later, it's like a

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Speaker 1: It's about life, it's about love, it's about did I

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Speaker 1: do that? That's good?

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Speaker 2: How long does it take you to like write this

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Speaker 1: then I just like refreshed it every every showing and

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Speaker 1: made it like hypertropical. So like when y'all remember when

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Speaker 1: that uh, the Asian guy got pulled off the plane. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Somebody then ready and he was demolished and we just

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Speaker 1: He wasn't as he was like right, so we pulled

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Speaker 1: him out. Somebody grabbed.

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Speaker 2: That's that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Man. The color I did it was kind of like

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Speaker 1: an exercise in clowning. Like, yeah, it was so masterlinist.

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Speaker 1: I never wrote a play. I was just I was

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Speaker 1: The color Eurkle was kind of like I exercise and

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00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: clowning well like I had. So it was like Rkle

434
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: and Steph on her co are separated through space and

435
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: time and they need to communicate through the time machine,

436
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: but they can only send letters, so they're telling each

437
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: other what life is like for black people in each

438
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: respective time period they are in, like in the seventies

439
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: or eighties, and then like you know, twenty fifty five respectively.

440
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: And so you know, I played both parts. I have

441
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: on the suspenders and Rkle. I came out to the

442
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: color Purple music and I was running around as step

443
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: as Erle, and I was like step far stir farm

444
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: way up and then I out and then I take

445
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: off the suspenders in the glasses and I beat step.

446
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 5: On her call and be like hurry up with your

447
00:24:52,640 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 5: slow ass white back and forth, and then what I

448
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 5: would do to the the you.

449
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: Know, there was one part where I was like acting

450
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: like I was in the times, like wow, then was

451
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: like what am I? I woke up with the letter

452
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: and I was like reading all of that, and then

453
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: I jumped back and forth each time period and go

454
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: back into flashbacks, and it was the whole thing. And

455
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: then I introduced the uh you know, what's my call

456
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: character at one point, what's your name? The god man?

457
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: Uh? Uh mister uh what Carl Winslow.

458
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: Oh, Carl Winslow. Yeah, too many ercles on your team

459
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: as well. You're winning as well. Yeah. Yeah. So that

460
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: was fun.

461
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: Man, that sounds awesome.

462
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: Man.

463
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: How long did you run those?

464
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: For it? Two years? Like wow, I lived for two years. Yeah,

465
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: I miss it. I miss it. I mean through Quarantine

466
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: and in just like twenty nineteen and like working that's

467
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: when I worked on both MASL and Atlanta respectively, like

468
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: in the same year, and I was like, that was

469
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: like really busy, and I was like right before Quarantine.

470
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: That took me up to quarantine working on both of

471
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: those like twenty nineteen. I got Mazel January twenty nineteen,

472
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: and then in like August September of that year, I

473
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: moved back to LA to work on Atlanta season three

474
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: and four back to back, and that took me through

475
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: like April, and I was just like, you know, quarantine.

476
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: Contact came from the place I'm working on like my

477
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: Grandma show. It's like a one man show about my

478
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: grandma called Sweet Lorraine. Oh that's my best friend. She

479
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: passed in September, like a one man show. Kind of

480
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: mixed kind of media a little bit, where like I

481
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: have like a one man show part and then I

482
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: have like two to three one act plays that kind

483
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: of encapsulate the kind of thing I'm talking about. So

484
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: it'll be like one man's show, one act what one

485
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: man show or one show one act and then I'm

486
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: like wearing her hat and stuff and.

487
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 3: What what What was the moment in your career that

488
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: you was like, oh wow, like I didn't expect to

489
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 3: be here.

490
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

491
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: Think when.

492
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: Hmhmm, take your time, baby, take your time.

493
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, trying to think.

494
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: That's just what black women. That's what the black women

495
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 2: say the church. When you're thinking, I'm just.

496
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I'm trying to I feel like

497
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: it's like I guess when I met Donald's m hmm.

498
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, I just I just that's the opposite.

499
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: Moment.

500
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: He walked me downstairs, he was like, Mexican's is rapeus?

501
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: He put his arm around me. He was great, no, no,

502
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: but Donald GLOVERI out so you got put in time out.

503
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I do think it was. I think

504
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: it's when I actually had the interview. When I got

505
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: the call from Donald that I got the job, I

506
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: was on my I was getting ready to go to work,

507
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: which was Masal at the time. So I got the call,

508
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: I got the job, and then I went to my

509
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: other job. So knowing a job is ending and having

510
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: a job come up with so mental to me, I think.

511
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: And then it didn't feel real until I was there.

512
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: I felt like so intimidated. I feel like a real

513
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, I feel especially for black writers, any creatives,

514
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: anybody in Hollywood, or just anything that black people could

515
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: try to do. It's like I felt such wild imposter syndrome.

516
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I'm the man. I didn't feel

517
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: like you know, yeah, I suffered for a while. It

518
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: wasn't like as fun as the place hanging out with

519
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: my friends. It wasn't I had to like, you know,

520
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: quote unquote graduate like I had to I had to

521
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: like push forward for these things and things that I didn't

522
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: know I could do, because like, you know, it feels

523
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: like with like I guess, like hard work or like

524
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: any kind of opportunity. You never know how much more

525
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: you can do until you like push outside of that.

526
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: And it felt like it felt like a little for me,

527
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: or at least how I felt it felt like something

528
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: I could do. But that was a little for in

529
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: the strength, in the sense of me trying to get stronger,

530
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: a little bit out of my reach, right in terms

531
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: of what I thought for myself. Maybe that was me

532
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: just playing in small but it felt a little bit

533
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: outside of my own reach.

534
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think a lot of people can identify

535
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: with that. I definitely can. I did relate to that.

536
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: And it's so interesting because if someone were to tell

537
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: you your resume for another person, you probably wouldn't feel

538
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: that right. The songs like Yo, this motherfucker heard a

539
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: faux pas on TV, constructed a play for two years?

540
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: Did this fucking play out? You know I'm saying out

541
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: of nowhere? Boom? Did this other thing? Got this job

542
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: from Miss Maso boom? It was like, yeah, of course

543
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: that niggas gonna be righting for Atlanta, Like that's that's

544
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: a career trajectory. But when it's it's something about when

545
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: it's you, it's like, yeah, but I don't know am

546
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 2: I doing too much? Who I think I am up

547
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: in here? But now that's beautiful. Did you when you

548
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: were in that writer's room though, once you like kind

549
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: of got in there, did that feeling never go away

550
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: where you're like, Okay, cool, I belong here, I'm with

551
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: my peers. Or is it one of those things where

552
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: you still struggle with it today.

553
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: I don't struggle with it as much. I think I

554
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: struggled with it, especially for that show, because I wasn't

555
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: on the previous shows, and it was so mental to

556
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: me because I went from being in the in the

557
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: space that Atlanta was on the air and then was

558
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: trying to come back. I went from being a fan

559
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch with my roommate with a bunch

560
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: of cat hair on it, to watching to watching to

561
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: writing the damn show right with someone said full circle moment. Absolutely, yeah,

562
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: That's how I felt. It was so surreal, and it

563
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: was like also like I had a couple of little

564
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: runnings with the Keith and Donald before just in passing

565
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: the Keith. Uh, I was like going to Na's birthday

566
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: party after I met one of his producers who, uh,

567
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: like we were like chopping it up. He invited me

568
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: thenas birthday, and you know, I'm from a project over

569
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: from Queensbridge, and you know, we he introduced me to NAS.

570
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: But I was like on the way like up to

571
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: this party in Massiville, and he was he was walking

572
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: down and he just assumed, you know, I'm somebody I'm

573
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: going up to this party. We had a moment chopping

574
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: it up. I was just gone for like one summer.

575
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: My roommate church me. It's just like you're going for

576
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: one summer, man, who are you like, you know, other

577
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: people getting checked, you know, getting.

578
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, excuse me, pause, Yeah, I mean that's how

579
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: I feel when I use the AMC premiere stuffs past.

580
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: You know, oh y'all just waiting on y'all popcorn. That's cute.

581
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: Couldn't be me. But can you watch it the same

582
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: now that you're on the other side of it, Like,

583
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: is it you know, is it surreal? Because I know,

584
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: being a fan, at least to me, one of the

585
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: big things about Atlanta was like it being this tent

586
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: pole black show. Everyone got an opinion, everyone's critiquing and everyone,

587
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: you know, everyone's triggered by everything that's on it now,

588
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: you know, and then now you're on the other side

589
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: seeing how the sausage is made, Like, how does it

590
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: like does it change how you how you view the

591
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: show now?

592
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I still went into the show as

593
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: a fan for sure, but it was crazy to see

594
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: the process of it. I feel like a little bit

595
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: of the DNA of Hidden Fences was directly pulled from

596
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: like watching Atlanta and seeing how they went into that process.

597
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: Some parts of it was similar. You know. It's like

598
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: it's like remixing certain viral moments or reimagining them to be,

599
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, something entirely fresh, using them towards the narrative

600
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: or something. I mean, right, you know, not not as

601
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: dark as three slaps?

602
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: But how did your family and friends respond to you

603
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 3: being like on all these shows in Atlanta, Like, I

604
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 3: know they had to have some type of response, Like

605
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: how did they respond?

606
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: Was it positively? Was it negative?

607
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: Was it like cheering for you? My mom is such

608
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: a wonderful person to talk about TV art anything with

609
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: she She's put me onto so much stuff, you know,

610
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: when she is like sixty one sixty two, she god,

611
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: uh masters in Applied Theater, And I feel like so

612
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: much of that, you know that It's funny when people

613
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: get their degree, that's the potential turned into realize energy

614
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: of like, wow, that person got that, but that potential

615
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: energy by virtue of her being able to complete that

616
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: was always in her. Some people get it in degrees.

617
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: Some people have the degree in them. She's right, it's

618
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: in me, not on me. You know what I'm come through?

619
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: Come through now. Don't talk like that. Don't get the

620
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: preaching on day. But it's true though, it is true.

621
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: Like a lot of stuff, even the job, right, even

622
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: the job is still a recognition of ship you had

623
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: in you, you know what I mean. Like it's like

624
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 2: uh uh. Like when I got got my job with

625
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: game theory, it was one of those things where it

626
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 2: was like I I was excited, but I always thought

627
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: I could do it, you know what I mean. Like

628
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: it was just one of those things I was like,

629
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to do something like that,

630
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: like writing for TV. I kind of like podcasting, like

631
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: this is dope. We're making a living doing this shit.

632
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 2: This this is a dream of its own. And there was,

633
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: but it was so weird talking to other people because

634
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 2: they was like, nigga, you got to do this, Okay,

635
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: you need to do this shit. Do you know what

636
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna mean to have this on your resume? I

637
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, I guess that's the recognition of

638
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: the achievement, is like, oh, you really could do it.

639
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: You just before you just was a nigga that thought

640
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: you could do it. But now it's a nigga that

641
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: we know can do it. You know what I mean?

642
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: I think that that does matter people. But yeah, degrees

643
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: are very much the same. Like you, you could have

644
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: actually literally learned this on your own. You might have

645
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: already known this shit, but it's somebody putting that degree

646
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: on you before everybody goes bam. And then, of course

647
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 2: the second thing is black women be learning. Black women

648
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: be learning. God damn, my mom was one of them

649
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: people that every time I look up she got a

650
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: new career, new degree.

651
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 6: I'm like, she done changed, Like feels like up to time.

652
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: She was like, you know, and it's amazing talking to

653
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: her because she's one of the few people who constantly

654
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: looks in the future. So she's like, well, I know

655
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: I'm getting you know, I'm getting ready to get the

656
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: retirement age, so you know, I'm already planning about what

657
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 3: I want to do, you know, when I'm retirement age.

658
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: It's almost like when you execute, what do you want

659
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 3: to do when you grow up? And they got a

660
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 3: list of five things? That's how she is a hudge.

661
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: What do you want to do when you get old?

662
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: She I got a list of five things.

663
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 3: I don't know which one I'm gonna pick, but one

664
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: of these things I'm gonna come.

665
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: And now she's just a person that can do all

666
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: that shit. Yes, it's like, oh yeah, you need somebody

667
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 2: to do your hair. Just come on down to the crib.

668
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: I'll do your hair and then we could talk about

669
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: this medical finance and ship and you just like, what

670
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: what is happening? How do we get here?

671
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: That's just degree right next to the beauty school? Is that? Yes?

672
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 3: Yes, hanging on the wall all types of certificates.

673
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like teaching you some African American history shit. You

674
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: just like I just came to get my hair braided,

675
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: but thank you, you know.

676
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: Slight slight pivot. I don't I don't know if you're Oh,

677
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: maybe y'all seen it without spoiling. Do y'all like the

678
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: new obi Wan?

679
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

680
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: I like it?

681
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, see yeah, yeah, I love yeah, yeah,

682
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: it's I think low key is better than Uh. It's

683
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: only been two episodes, so I don't want to be

684
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: a hype beast, so let me take it down a

685
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: little notch. But uh, I think I think it might

686
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: be better than Man though.

687
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that's pretty good.

688
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: Okay, this joint, this joint feel like one of them

689
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 2: joints where like, uh, and this happens and team this

690
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: happened with them c W shows. I'm not saying they're good,

691
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: but this is what happened. Somebody wanted to make a

692
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: Batman show and they was like, no, niggah, you can

693
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: go make the Flash and we'll see if that works.

694
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 2: That Like, that's how Man don't feel with this obi

695
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: Wan Like they wanted to make obi Wan the whole time,

696
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: and they was like, let's try this other ship, try

697
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: this one. Okay, you know what, let's go. You can

698
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: do ob Wan so I won't fall anything. But y'all

699
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: love that shit though. So also, Man, like, uh, what

700
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: is it like now writing for the show and seeing

701
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: do y'all even see the critical recesion? Do y'all think

702
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: about do you talk about this? Is this something you

703
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: even look at? Do you just write the ship and

704
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: be like, man, fuck them niggas. I don't care what

705
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 2: they got to say, Like, how how does that work?

706
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: I was off Twitter for like two years, and I

707
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: don't have Instagram right now. I just got back on

708
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: Twitter to get some love for my episodes and to

709
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: kind of promote my stuff, and I tweet. I tweet

710
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm betweet listen tweetsing it. But you

711
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: know it's weird because I'm like, yeah, I'm just like

712
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: at the point I feel like there's worms getting in

713
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: my brain. I try to get off it. But some

714
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: things are interesting. People seem to like Trinny to the bone.

715
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: It's but it's a little polarizing at times. But some

716
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: people are like it's the best one, it's the worst one.

717
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what you know. I don't know what to.

718
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: Think, but I love I love he loved this season

719
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: because I was reading something, uh, I think it was

720
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 2: one of the Stephen Glover interviews, and but one of

721
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: the things he said was is kind of like American Dad.

722
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: Like each episode is like almost like a capsule that

723
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: can reset and then you can watch you can watch

724
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: episode six and not watch seven and eight. And still

725
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: get the gist of it, right, and there's something that's

726
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: so dope about that. And as a person that watches

727
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: like American Dad about like five nights a week, I

728
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 2: was like, I said, oh, no, one not like this shit.

729
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: It do kind of feel like, you know, almost like

730
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: a like an encapsulated thing. And then I like, I

731
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: love the anthology episodes. The I think the most thing

732
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 2: I like about Atlanta is that's never what I expect.

733
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: It's always something different. I don't like, I think want

734
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: the same thing. People believe they want the same shit

735
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: over and over. But if you look at the shows

736
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: that give you the same shit, everyone ends up hating

737
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: them so quick. It'd be like they did just Nigga

738
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: selling drugs again, Like, well, that's what the Power. That's

739
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: what they do on Power, They sell drugs.

740
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

741
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but our season five, like, oh, let me guess

742
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna sell some drugs. I'm like, all right, So

743
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: y'all don't really want the same shit. So it's kind

744
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: of hard to be on the other side of that

745
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: making the creative decision because you have to kind of

746
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: anticipate the audience needs and wants before they even know

747
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: what they want. And I feel like that's how the

748
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: season has been, where it's like, uh, at least to me,

749
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: it was like so different. You could be like I

750
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm looking for to next week, you

751
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like here's the preview, I wonder

752
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: what that's really gonna be about, and then you show

753
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: up and so I, like I said, I've been enjoying,

754
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: enjoying it, and yeah, twenty to the Bone was was

755
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: a beast? Was it was it? Like? Was it purposeful

756
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: to have the horror vibes throughout the season or is

757
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: it just y'all are some just cynical, bitter broken people.

758
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, first, one of the first things, one

759
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: of the first days in the writer's room, one of

760
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: the things Donald said is like, very explicitly, this season

761
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: is about white people. This season specifically about white people's

762
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: the curse of racism cursing them, which is you know

763
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: what three slaps the beginning is and is kind of

764
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: if you see seeing the whole season is something that's

765
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: kind of touched on with the white Earnest Earnest whatever

766
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: like character who's like in the big payback episode you

767
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: see him again like in real life, which is the

768
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: horror of it, right, Yeah, kind of giving the same

769
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: speel but instead to a white man, right, and then

770
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: you see him and then he kills himself, right, which

771
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: is like proof of basically what he saying is and

772
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: kind of what he was saying in the in the

773
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: in the nightmares that kind of like he knows too much,

774
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's giving into the curse or the

775
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: curse is kind of taking him on. And then you

776
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: see him that in the tag in the season finale.

777
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: So we linked a lot of those things in and

778
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was, I need to go back and

779
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: watch the season finale. A lot of things changed from

780
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: the script me. It's a good amount of time. But

781
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: like there's like I almost saw it as like the

782
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: the things in the book bag. I thought it was

783
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: like a purposeful thing of like these were artifacts from

784
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: each of the stepouts, like if it was like for

785
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: some reason, slight pepper, mango, like he yeah, and then

786
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: like like remember he stole that little thing unintentionally in

787
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: Big Payback, if it was like a little cookie thing,

788
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: like yeah, I thought that's what it was. But then

789
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: you know it was the family picture, right, So like Yeah,

790
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: we just came in like thinking about the curse and

791
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: trying to like I guess right about right to that.

792
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: I think for people who didn't life the anthology and

793
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: wanted more of the Ones we Gang, you know, it's

794
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: two different short seasons of a show in one, so

795
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: you can go back and you can watch the ones

796
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: just with the Gang and then just watch the Ones anthology,

797
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: depending on what's for you, you know.

798
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the creative freedom is what I was digging.

799
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: And it felt like not just a commentary on like

800
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: white people and white racism and whiteness. It felt like

801
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: a commentary on a specific type of like liberal white person,

802
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like like quote unquote kind

803
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: of the good white people, Like I think it's easy

804
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: for people to do to like redneck you know what

805
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like I hate niggers, Meg and making me

806
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: like that's the demo god, right, that's the person that

807
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: doesn't really exist in a lot of people's lives in

808
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: that way. But like we know of Marshall, we know,

809
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You like that family with

810
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: the with the black with the Trinidaddian nurse, Like we

811
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 2: know those families, you know what I'm saying. And there

812
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: was in these a lot of these kind of more

813
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: subtle ways that it hit and and I thought that was, uh,

814
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: that was a dope choice, you know, as opposed to

815
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: just you know, a time to kill, because I feel

816
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: like that's been done so much that it's almost like

817
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: a white person could look at that and be like, oh,

818
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with me, you know what

819
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Like I'm not like those whites. But it's

820
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 2: like what you do go to Starbucks and ignore the

821
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: brother in line in front of you, and you do

822
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, you do uh uh uh

823
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: you would hire the nanny to watch your kid, and

824
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: like you do that shit Like that's that's some white

825
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: people ship. That don't seem that fucked up, you know,

826
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: But once you think about it, it's like, oh, yeah,

827
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: this shit touches all of us, even like, uh so,

828
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: all right, so that's your episode? How does that work?

829
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: Like you write it? From route it to the tudor

830
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: the you're are you the head writer for that episode?

831
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: Like how's that situation work?

832
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: In the room kind of Oh and thank you, thank

833
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: you for the Yeah, this is a mint you know

834
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

835
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: Do we see the flex? You know what I'm saying.

836
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean we've broken

837
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: in a room when we uh, you know, they came

838
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: in with stories like Donald have a specific thing for

839
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: this one, and like we were kind of playing around

840
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: with it and then like I found the trendy to

841
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: the bone song, I think, and then we kind of

842
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: like jumped off from there. But there was a specific

843
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: story about our trend Dad different things, and yeah, you

844
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: know there's some dialogue. It's just like going through the

845
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: outline like this, this is directly fitting into the story,

846
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: like this line doesn't change, like you're gonna write this

847
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: in and then kind of building around there and you know, yeah,

848
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: it was like to a certain point collaborative. But then

849
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, I and outside of the sister, the Trendandy

850
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: and sister they got on set, who was you know,

851
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: a cultural liaison and like a consultant. I asked a

852
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: friend of mine's uncle who's triny, and you know I

853
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: was talking to him, I got the slight pepper joke,

854
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: and then you know, you know me hard, you know, yes, yes,

855
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: where I was like, you know, I like, look that

856
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: stuff up and then other things they're just like sayings

857
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: and things and just trying to make it feel as

858
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: like living as possible.

859
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: But is there a competitive nature to it, like with

860
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: these some of these episodes being like, yo, this is mind?

861
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: Is it like I'm trying to have the best one

862
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: of the season, you know what I'm saying, Like when

863
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: they look at the emmy real they need to be

864
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: looking at my shit because I'm fit to kill this.

865
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: Like is that is it that going into it? Or

866
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: is it still kind of that almost the imposter syndrome,

867
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: think of like, man, I just don't want to have

868
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: a whack episode. I don't want nobody to be like

869
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: his shit was whack, the rest of the shit was hot,

870
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: you know, like, what's your mentality going into it?

871
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: I think if each episode kind of builds to making

872
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: the show more singular than people remembering why they missed it.

873
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: I think the competitiveness because of how specific and I

874
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: think once in a generation special the show is, it

875
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: makes it competitive toward to push It makes it competitive

876
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: in the sense of pushing the idea of competition out

877
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: because we're really in just competition with ourselves at some point.

878
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: That would make it seem like only we can be

879
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: competitive with other seasons of Atlanta. So, you know, I

880
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: think that's how it feels. And I think that, you know,

881
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Donald saying only you know, uh sopranos can touch us

882
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: as like bold and something that's just like yeah, kind

883
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: of you know talking ship. Yeah, you know, I loved

884
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: my episode for talking about parts of the diaspora you

885
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: know that are really rarely touched upon. I thought I

886
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: thought mine was a was a standout in the sense

887
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: of not only when do we ever see that, but

888
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, reparations and uh you know it was the

889
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: was the other stuff up.

890
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, reparations for the big payback you had U okay,

891
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: turning to the bone. What else am I missing?

892
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: Oh?

893
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: Three three slaps is kind of a step out.

894
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: Because yeah, that was But yeah, I feel like there

895
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: are different things that were like either touchdown, touched on

896
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: or reimagining that this one kind of hit in a

897
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: different sense, at least emotionally. You know, I think that

898
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: the competition lies. And you know, one of the things

899
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: Donald said, uh like first day he also wrote on

900
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: the board is like do what others can't mm hmmm,

901
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: and no one else regardless of how they feel about

902
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: the season. Could do what we did in these in

903
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: these last two seasons.

904
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah and rich wag PRAI that was the

905
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: other step out. I love that one too though. That's

906
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: my ship too.

907
00:50:52,080 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: Named that episode too, like that, Yeah, that's dope. Don't know,

908
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: it's like the jay Z line. Oh okay, okay for

909
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: a long just wrapping it.

910
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, like still wiggle.

911
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: Donald was like, yeah it is it.

912
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: Does it do feel good when uh, you throw out

913
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: an idea and like somebody you think it's dope. It's like, yeah,

914
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: that that works, you know what I mean? Because it

915
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: is like a yeah, you know, pretty dope right right

916
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: of cold.

917
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny too when people are watching it and

918
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: they know your sense of humor or your sensibility and

919
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: they're like, did you do that part?

920
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: Did you do that?

921
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: They be wrong right right, at least for the Three

922
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: Slaps episode when they actually go down into Lakelandier and

923
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: you see and it pops up that that's where they

924
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: are tours that I did pitch that.

925
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that happens with our show too. And sometimes

926
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: I'm wrong sometimes are right? Do you have like a

927
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: I have a McGuff and I have a thing that

928
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: I want to get into the show. I don't thgere

929
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: it's never gonna happen. I'm trying to get some sort

930
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: of reference to Pooty Tang in the show, and so

931
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: far I've gotten close, like I've got like I've gotten too,

932
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: like the last day before when they make it cuts

933
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: and they be like, nah, I don't know if enough

934
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: people understand it's joking. I'm like, fuck, but one one day,

935
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: one day you're gonna break. I'm gonna get some Pooty

936
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 2: Tang in there. Do you have anything like that day?

937
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think I got a Jada kiss Uh

938
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: reference in the season finale, A Abbot.

939
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: Yes, that man, Let's talk about Abbot too.

940
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: Like, let's talk about I also got my name there?

941
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: How'd you get your name in there?

942
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: Well? What Tarik? He was like, he's going to talk

943
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: about going to New York. He's like, who's think that?

944
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: Meed Tarik Temple.

945
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: That's so dope, man, Yo, you know it's crazy, like

946
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 2: I think of Star Wars shits like this high fluting art.

947
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It's like Disney Plus got

948
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: the budget, they got the you know, motherfuckers bringing like

949
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: the symphony in to play the music and ship like

950
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: it's really just elevated ship. And then uh, I watched

951
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: these YouTube breakdowns or the shows sometimes for I think

952
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: New rock Stars does it, and it be mad shipping

953
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: in where it's just like, oh yeah, in this background,

954
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: that's that. That's the producer's wife's name or something like yo.

955
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: Everyone is doing. Everyone is trying to get something in there,

956
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: even if it's fucking Star Wars. It's just like, oh yeah,

957
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: this character's name is like this dude's son, but the

958
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 2: name is backwards like walk man. It's so crazy. So

959
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: what was it like with Abbot Man? Because I mean,

960
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: Abbot is the undeniable hit, you know what I mean?

961
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: Like uh, I mean as much as like I love Atlanta,

962
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 2: it's controversial though, you know what I mean. You gotta

963
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 2: fucking have a discussion and ship.

964
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: You know, can I put your.

965
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: Thinking cap on every episode? It's gotta be somebody you

966
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta navigate through the like this nigga didn't

967
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: like this the think pieces come out. I feel like

968
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: Abbod the only joint right now that it don't matter

969
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: where are you from when you everyone seem to love

970
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: Abbot like period, like so much. They think in school shootings,

971
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: like they they how much they love this ship, Like

972
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: what's it like, what's it like in that environment?

973
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh side note, you know I heard if you slow

974
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: down the the Ewoks lank you slow down. It's he said,

975
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: run kind on the stain. I had no idea, no,

976
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: but it's pretty good. I love the show, you know.

977
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: I I just love that there's just like all these

978
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: black kids like just being able to be themselves and people.

979
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just feels like a nice little

980
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: pocket of just black people just being able to do.

981
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: You know. It's not like Utopia. It feels very it's

982
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: just very grounded.

983
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not. It's fun. It's funny, but it's

984
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: not like message, you know what I'm saying, Like it's

985
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't mean that there's nothing to be

986
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: learned there, but it doesn't feel like the goal is

987
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: like the lesson of the week, you know what I'm saying,

988
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: which can kind of happen with black shit sometimes as

989
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: people always feel like niggas need to learn something from everything.

990
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: I still like chosen horsing my ship in there, Like yeah,

991
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: you know if you'll remember the New Tech episode. Yeah,

992
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: when they had to recall the tablets. Yeah, like that

993
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: was it was it was they were using it to

994
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: uh track the test scores. Was like from the School

995
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: of Prison pipeline. Yeah.

996
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's so that's what I'm saying, Like I

997
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: love it because it's there, but it's not there's a

998
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: level where like that comes before even being funny, Like

999
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 2: when you watch something you like this, I mean thank

1000
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: you know, you know, it's like it's like whatever you

1001
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: you what I watched Insecure and uh the Niggastart argued

1002
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: about like sha, condos be on the show and you

1003
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: just like, I mean sure, but also like why, like

1004
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: you growing, no kids should be watching this? Like what

1005
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: else do you watch with that mentality? Like have you

1006
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: ever watched the episode of Sex in the City and

1007
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: been like these people need to use some condoms or

1008
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: is it just oh I've seen some black people on

1009
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,479
Speaker 2: the screen. Black people need to learn about condoms because

1010
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, they don't know like where did that come from?

1011
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: So I think what Abbod is just so funny and

1012
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: so good and the performance is so good that it's

1013
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: really like it's entertaining as much as it can, like

1014
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: you know, you can you can take something from it,

1015
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I think that's though,

1016
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: is the so which environment like all there? Because you've

1017
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: been in three different writers rooms, Like what are the

1018
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: differences in the environment, like with collaboration, with competition, all

1019
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 2: that stuff.

1020
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: I've been in more than three, but these are the

1021
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: only real three I've liked, and I think it has

1022
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: the healthiest invest for me, you know what I mean.

1023
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: I only actually feel like I have some respect coming

1024
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: in last year as a producer. This year is a

1025
00:57:55,600 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: supervising producer and being around like you know, black creatives

1026
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: and people who are just want to make this show

1027
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: good use every piece of their experience to kind of

1028
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: really elevate what the show could be. And Quinta having

1029
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: her ultimate vision and you know, being such a grounded,

1030
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: like gifted person, I think that you know, you only

1031
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: want to see fit that you as a general too,

1032
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, you know, do you know and achieve those

1033
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: that mission for this person you work for? And I

1034
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: take I take pride in that. Were other times I'd

1035
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: be like, oh what I mean, not like I didn't before,

1036
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: but like I'm just trying to remember in a healthy way,

1037
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: healthy detachment kind of way that you know, it's not

1038
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: my show, and in that I can service this person

1039
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: who I want to succeed and are you know, already

1040
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: liked and ically working for black people and specifically a

1041
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: black woman them being like, you know, I want to

1042
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: get the job done for you because I think it's

1043
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: important for black people to learn how to work together. Yeah,

1044
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: you can see that the show was a lot of

1045
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: a lot of love.

1046
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, you can a lot of loving care.

1047
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I know, like with us having a

1048
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: sports show, that's definitely something that because you know sports,

1049
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: everybody got an opinion, you know what I mean, Like

1050
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: you say something in a room of twenty people, not

1051
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna agree. So you know, Bowl comes in with

1052
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: a premise and they could be like, hey, Lebron James

1053
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: getting too old for all this shit, and it's somebody

1054
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 2: in the room like Nigga, I'm a Lakers fan. I

1055
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 2: don't think he getting too old at all. We need

1056
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: to run this back, you know. But when it's time

1057
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: to write the jokes or write that point of view,

1058
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: like to me, I look at it as you say,

1059
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: it's like that's your general you gotta go write the

1060
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 2: best version of that argument or that, you know, I'm

1061
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: saying whatever, or that sketch or whatever we're working on

1062
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: that week. The best version of that is what it's about.

1063
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: Because if you let your ego get too much, it's gonna,

1064
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna make your work whack, you know,

1065
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: like like at the end of the day, it's still

1066
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: a job, you know what I mean. I think you know,

1067
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: we've I've seen that before with like somebody trying to

1068
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: slide something by, like I kind of disagree with this,

1069
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: let me write less than what your opinion is, and

1070
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 2: it's like you're gonna end up rewriting that ship because

1071
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: ain't nobody dumb, you know what I mean? So I

1072
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 2: definitely feel you on a wanting to execute and especially

1073
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: you know, like and people told me this when I

1074
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 2: got it, was like, hey man, this is like a

1075
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: black late night sports show. This is a lot of

1076
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: people dream job. Don't you know what I'm saying, Like,

1077
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: don't fuck it off trying to be like nah, nigga,

1078
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: just the Rod show, you know what I mean, You

1079
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta fucking do the job.

1080
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: Wait, what show?

1081
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: Ron, It's a game Theory with uh Bamoni John was

1082
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 2: on HBO. Oh yeah yeah so Morgan, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

1083
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: Morgan Murphy, Yep, yep, she's uh uh she's she's so cool, man.

1084
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: She knows all the stuff about sports and fun. And

1085
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: she gave me an avid elementary mug. So she's gonna

1086
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 2: faith dedicate nobody to get everybody like. She worked on

1087
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: a lot of ship and I'll just be talking to

1088
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 2: her because she you know, I was talking to everybody.

1089
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: I was trying to learn as much as I could,

1090
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: and so I would just be talking to her. She

1091
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: just dropped like some some random ship that I think

1092
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: I would have on a T shirt, you know, Yeah,

1093
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: a elementary gang game be out here.

1094
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 6: Like a ad.

1095
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and nails to match. Let all, I'm talking about

1096
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 3: producer Cup.

1097
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: We love r somethinganew.

1098
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: It is that photoshop, you know, it's a picture of

1099
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: me like grilling and like.

1100
01:01:59,040 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: That's funny as hell.

1101
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 1: Man.

1102
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: Oh man. It wasn't like working with Janelle Man because

1103
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: I mean, we know Janelle for a long time.

1104
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: I love je I've known her for like eight years.

1105
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: When I was first starting stand up and U she

1106
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: was on the showcase and I was just like an

1107
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: instant fan and she I was like, man, I was

1108
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: like just starting stand up. I was like twenty five.

1109
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, you're so funny. Where are you from?

1110
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: What do you do? She was just like she was like,

1111
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm a road comic. We outside. She was like, I'm

1112
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: a road comic and she's stared into the traffic. I

1113
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: was like, man, me and this nigga gonna be friend?

1114
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? You so cool. Nah, it's been dope.

1115
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: Man.

1116
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 2: That was one of the things about Quentin that I

1117
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: was like, she got knowledge for you on her years,

1118
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: because I think it had it has to be tempting

1119
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: to most people to like give themselves the ever roll

1120
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: because it's such a like over the top road that

1121
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna let that character. But Janelle being able, Oh

1122
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: she embodies it. Yeah. It's it's so crazy, like that

1123
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: role was written for her. It's so crazy because I

1124
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: remember watching Dick Detectives.

1125
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 3: Yes Detective, Yes, being like.

1126
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: I was like, you're gonna be a star, yo, and

1127
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: then uh it was like I was like this versus

1128
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: is a fucking star and then like seeing that come

1129
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 2: to fruition.

1130
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 4: Man.

1131
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: Uh you know, I still I'm like I do uh worry, Like,

1132
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: damn man, she's got so famous. I really don't think

1133
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 2: she could just go places no more. Like I see

1134
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 2: her in memes. Now, yeah you know you're somebody they

1135
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: start making memes it, yeah, like yeah she all right.

1136
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,479
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like like she like five

1137
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: years from like probably having slapped somebody. You know what

1138
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, We'll understand, like like they got a little

1139
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 2: too close, got a little too close. You gotta slap

1140
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,479
Speaker 2: somebody once in a while. But yeah, so it just.

1141
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: It boggles the mind how many people I managed not

1142
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: to slap.

1143
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: It's like this is a little over the top. But

1144
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, that's the thing you don't

1145
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: get credit for. Like when you make the news for

1146
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: slapping that one person, they don't ever talk about the

1147
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: hundreds of people you didn't slap. You know what I'm saying.

1148
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: Like when Mike Tyson beat that dude up on the plane,

1149
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: that can't be the first nigga to ever fuck with

1150
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson. You know what I'm saying that he might

1151
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: have had incredible restraint for all we know. And then

1152
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 2: he finally just was like I have to do this

1153
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 2: about once every ten years and blah blah blah blah.

1154
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: Whoah. You know there's a nigga in Brooklyn right now

1155
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 1: would have would have broken orbital bone and he was like, man,

1156
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: Nigga's like beat my ass in the nineties. Yea.

1157
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: Oh so because I I ain't have cell phones, I

1158
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: can't get no motherfucking I can't get a viral moment.

1159
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: That's as fucked up how our society is, because it's

1160
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 2: like you get your ass when it's like, at least

1161
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: he went viral though you know that shit had a

1162
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: thousand tweets. But yeah, so with the with the average room,

1163
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 2: that's dope. Now what is you don't have the name names,

1164
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: but what's a bad writer's room experience? What's that?

1165
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: Like? I don't want to get into it.

1166
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: I understood. I don't want to take you back to

1167
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 2: this far.

1168
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just say that when especially you're working

1169
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: with black people, I won't name it specifically, but I'll

1170
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: just say specifically, when you are on bad shows, that's

1171
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: sometimes when you meet the most talent. Like I was

1172
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: on a bad show where you know, if I told

1173
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: you the people who are associated with it, you know,

1174
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: including myself it's just like so wild what those people

1175
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: went on to do, right, And I think more important

1176
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: realizing the talent that kind of you know, it was

1177
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: going to succeed regardless of someone trying to mute you.

1178
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1179
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, weirdly, not even trauma bonding,

1180
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: but the bonding that comes from seeing other talented people

1181
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: in the face of someone trying to kind of mute

1182
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: your own, your own star. I think it's you know, powerful,

1183
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, more important than like citing what it was specifically.

1184
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: I think it's just speaks to people's resilience and knowing

1185
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: that you know, the cream you know, rises to the top.

1186
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: It's also like there's power offee Black, you know what

1187
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying. There's also power and knowledge and learning what

1188
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: you don't want, what you ain't gonna do again that

1189
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 2: you know, yes, yes, then you have standards. You'd be like,

1190
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna deal

1191
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: with this and it's come out.

1192
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you can also see trouble coming, if that

1193
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: makes sense. And and just in jobs in general, if

1194
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 3: you've had enough experience, because I've been at working environments, well,

1195
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you'll see people up start abandoning

1196
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: ship and I tell people, I say, oh, something coming down.

1197
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: They was like, well, I say, don't you sit.

1198
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: On people up shop top jumping ship whatever that is.

1199
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: It's getting red triggered all down.

1200
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, no, that's valid. That's valid. Cam. I'm glad

1201
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: you said that, because people like if the standards, standards,

1202
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, go hand in hand with the boundaries, and

1203
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: you got what not gonna accept and what people you're

1204
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna let in, and you know, that's a real that's

1205
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: a real thing. That's important, I think especially for black

1206
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: people because we think to like go out of our

1207
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 1: way and we need to do extra credit and yeah,

1208
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: and then one person out of time and all this

1209
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: other ship and so we overstep or used to people

1210
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: stepping over us, you know, to a certain point. We

1211
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: don't understand what some boundaries are. We think. We think

1212
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of black people who think overstepping boundaries

1213
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: is love.

1214
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a bar.

1215
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1216
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people don't understand it. And me personally,

1217
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 3: and I think you can only.

1218
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: Get that through experience.

1219
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 3: And what I realize is that you have to know yourself.

1220
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 3: And when you don't have boundaries. It is an emotional

1221
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 3: roller coaster because people don't know the boundaries that you

1222
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 3: haven't set yet. But you don't know the boundaries until

1223
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 3: they cross the boundaries. So so it's so it's like

1224
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: a I wanna say a cat and mouse game is

1225
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 3: like you're learning yourself while other people are learning you,

1226
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 3: and then once you set them boundaries, it's healthier for you.

1227
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh for sure. That was things this year where

1228
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: it was like, uh, i'd see somebody else say no

1229
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 2: to something, I'll be like, we can say no to that.

1230
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 2: Like it was like there was this thing where they

1231
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: were gonna do a sketch and for part of the

1232
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 2: sketch they wanted to like pan over to people to

1233
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 2: like black people sitting down eating like lobster, drinking champagne.

1234
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: But you were gonna be out in the street, you know,

1235
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: And it's just like a funny cutaway, the kind of

1236
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: thing that's like a one second joke but could also

1237
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 2: be cut you'd be out there for no reason. But

1238
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 2: they was like, yo, if anybody want to come out

1239
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: here and eat this loss of dat da, I was

1240
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: thinking maybe you could do it, and I was like,

1241
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 2: let me think about it, and I talked to my man.

1242
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: He was like, y'all not doing that shit. I was like, oh,

1243
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 2: we could just say we don't do that shit. He's

1244
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: like yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm not doing anything.

1245
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that shit. It's like, hey,

1246
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 2: I don't feel like doing it, and I'm like, oh yeah, cool,

1247
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: no problem. But up until that point, I didn't even know,

1248
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: Like it's because it's nebulous a little bit. It's not

1249
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 2: the same as like an office where it's like you

1250
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: take your break at three fifteen, Like, it's not that

1251
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: kind of shit. So it's like and sometimes it is

1252
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: some cool shit that you want to do, you know

1253
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I want to be in

1254
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 2: the background or desk, that's cool. But it never crossed

1255
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: my mind. You could be like, yeah, they asked me,

1256
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 2: I ain't feel like doing it, find somebody else, and

1257
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: like I had to. I learned that from being cool

1258
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: with other people that was willing to be like, yeah,

1259
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: you don't gotta do all that shit.

1260
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 1: Yeahs Black people will be like, but how you gonna

1261
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,480
Speaker 1: know your own boundaries if I don't invade your personal.

1262
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 3: And you know what, and what's jacked up, you go, okay, cool,

1263
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 3: lets and learn and once you start setting them boundaries,

1264
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 3: it's just for my personal life. People don't like them boundaries,

1265
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 3: particularly those people that push those boundaries. And then it's

1266
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: not a problem. But it's one of those things. I

1267
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 3: said what I said, and you have to kind of

1268
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 3: and then guess what you do that stay off or

1269
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: y'all looking at each other, everybody blink in their eyes

1270
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 3: because you like, uh no, we're not gonna do this.

1271
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, this don't count me out. Like Kendrick said, move

1272
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: on without me. It's a very Kendrick Lamar heavy episode.

1273
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 2: So you fuck with Kendrick man.

1274
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: You listen to the new Kendrick Yeah, yeah, I had to.

1275
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to get into it. I

1276
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: been a minute, but I there's sometimes when I'm listening

1277
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: to Kendrick where I'm like, you know this the black

1278
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: Man's Beyonce, you know, writes his own bars and you

1279
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: know learning you know what I'm saying. I still love.

1280
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 2: If you the Jordan Temple.

1281
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: Beyonce can read.

1282
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 6: I can hear the bees right now, but uh.

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01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: What's called? Yeah? I like the album. There's some things,

1284
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: you know. I realized that it's like him working through

1285
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: different things trauma to get to the point where you

1286
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 1: can like really healthily lady. Yeah, you know, uh, raise

1287
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: his family whatever. But there's you, there's someonemos want to

1288
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: second and third listener. It starts to use this lose

1289
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: this listenability, replay value or like, you know, it's that

1290
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: mean when somebody's like no one. You know what, it's

1291
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: like no one Kendrick Lamar. It's like it's like this

1292
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 1: or like no one Kendrick Lamar the first time I

1293
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:26,520
Speaker 1: fuck the white.

1294
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: Bitch with me In this, he's in that first phase.

1295
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 2: He's in that first phase of uh that first he's

1296
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: in that first phase of black therapy, that uh where

1297
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: it's like you think you need to tell everybody what

1298
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: you're doing in therapy. Uh, we've all seen everyone with

1299
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: social media go through this. It's just like, all right, cool,

1300
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 2: that sounds like a thing between you, your therapist and

1301
01:12:54,840 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 2: your mom. But uh, congratulations, you keep working on that. Yeah,

1302
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 2: he's also like not this is the first time it

1303
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:06,520
Speaker 2: seemed like he's not sharing shit from a moral authority,

1304
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 2: which is interesting. Like this many albums in and he's

1305
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 2: finally like, actually, y'all, I don't know. I don't get

1306
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: out of answers like no one is the opposite when

1307
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: a niggas like the more motherfucker get older, you know,

1308
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: old black man, the more they get older by the end,

1309
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: it's just like and you niggas is the real problem

1310
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: if you think about it, like his old album is like, man,

1311
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, leave me alone. I'm listen. I'm doing

1312
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 2: this album because it's my last studio album, and I'm obligated.

1313
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna I'm gonna hold you. Though. I loved it.

1314
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I so much of it I replayed. I

1315
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: could hear that it was a therapy session.

1316
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: I think.

1317
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: Also, and also I like what you said of it

1318
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 1: by virtue of it being like the first therapy session,

1319
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: because you can hear like you know, he's not only

1320
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: new to it, but he's remembering all the things in

1321
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 1: his life, parsons like where he probably could have used

1322
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: that shit. Yeah, so that's what he's also bringing up

1323
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: while he's talking about it and not trying to. Also,

1324
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: I think, especially for black men, use your woman as

1325
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: your therapist. Your woman is not your therapist. She's not

1326
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: your yeah, your punch of bags, none of that she

1327
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have to, you know what I'm saying. You know

1328
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: know that that's a separate thing. The father's time, I

1329
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: think was the first part of the first act. Break

1330
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: and realization of that. But being like he's also speaking

1331
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: for a generation, you know what I'm saying. I needed

1332
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: that far. I needed that far the time.

1333
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: It was so good and I haven't.

1334
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: Spoken my father in months, and the nigga, you know,

1335
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: never loved me, you know what I'm saying. And I

1336
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 1: had to realize that even from reading like Belle Hooks,

1337
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: like during I mean, we had a lot of time

1338
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: during Quarantine that I love it.

1339
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 7: I love reading before, but I was reading her more

1340
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 7: books at once, from bugs all about love again and

1341
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 7: then we real cool and it's just like talking about

1342
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 7: how like love and abuse can't exist in the same

1343
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 7: space people Black people can go about this all day

1344
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 7: and it's just it just ain't real, you know what

1345
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 7: I'm saying.

1346
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: You just can't have both. And she had to come

1347
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: to that realization, and that made me kind of, you know,

1348
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: realize that at the same time, you know, I think, uh,

1349
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: and I you know, it's uh. I just look at

1350
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: him as something that's like a generational kind of talent

1351
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: that's able to surmarize the thoughts and feelings of emotions

1352
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 1: of like black men like my age. You know, yeah

1353
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 1: about age. He's also a Gemini. You know, the same

1354
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: birthday as Kanye.

1355
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Okay, Okay.

1356
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot less and I've been telling a

1357
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: lot less people.

1358
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 2: That lately, Yeah, what change? What changed?

1359
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 3: And I don't blame you when you was talking about

1360
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 3: love and abuse, particularly for a lot of people, loving

1361
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 3: abuse is normal, so and so.

1362
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 2: And for a lot of people loving abuse, it's the.

1363
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: Same right while they're saying, I'm doing this while I

1364
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: love you, And.

1365
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 3: So it's really hard to separate those things because if

1366
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 3: you separate them and you begin to look at them

1367
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 3: for what they are, you get a better understanding of

1368
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 3: everything around you. And also, I've come to this realization

1369
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 3: about parents.

1370
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: Parents are people. Parents are flawed people.

1371
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 3: Society raises us to put parents on a pedestal, like

1372
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 3: our parents can never do no wrong. And I understand

1373
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 3: that because they raised you, they fed you and all

1374
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 3: that stuff, But they are flawed people. And once you

1375
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 3: look at your parents as an individual person, that life

1376
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:46,440
Speaker 3: has came along and they've made different decisions. These decisions

1377
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 3: do impact you, but once you go, oh, you're a

1378
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 3: person that made these decisions, your perspective of them will change.

1379
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 3: Not that you got to forgive or have compassionate and

1380
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 3: it doesn't it raise anything that they've done, but you

1381
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 3: just look at them very, very differently. You don't look

1382
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 3: at them from the eyes of a child. You look

1383
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 3: at them from the eyes of another adult looking at

1384
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 3: another adult.

1385
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of it is too like the parent

1386
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 2: industrial complex, right, It's like where it's sold to you

1387
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 2: as like perfection, this is the this is your God,

1388
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: this is the person that's gonna do everything for you,

1389
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: protect you, blah blah blah. And it's only once you

1390
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: kind of become an adult that you can see like,

1391
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 2: oh no, this was where they fucked up, or even

1392
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 2: like this is where they this is this is now

1393
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 2: the things that impacted them not understand.

1394
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 3: It's like I see why they did what they did,

1395
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 3: you know, I was just winding and crying, but it

1396
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 3: was more behind this, like.

1397
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 2: I'm reading this. I was reading this book about poverty,

1398
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: and one of the things that's interesting is like a vast,

1399
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 2: a big swap of children experienced poverty as kids, but

1400
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: most of us don't even fucking know it, like like

1401
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: like because your parents do so much to protect you,

1402
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 2: and you grow up if you know, if you haven't

1403
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: seen certain things, you don't even have a purview of

1404
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: that being normal. So like you're like, yeah, everybody got

1405
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: government cheese, what's the you know what I'm saying or whatever,

1406
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 2: And then and then one day you're like twenty five,

1407
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: like wait, You're like, wait a minute, baaloney, come in slices,

1408
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: everybody do's drink?

1409
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: Got a Mason jobs?

1410
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 2: Like no, baby, So it's it's it's it's different that way, man, Jordan,

1411
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're one of these What's next? People,

1412
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 2: but I gotta ask no.

1413
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: I feel like, man, that's such a funny way to

1414
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 1: couch a question like that.

1415
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, That's what we do over here.

1416
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 6: But a lot of people that like that, they're like, I'm.

1417
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 2: Not a What's next nigga, And I feel like I

1418
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,440
Speaker 2: want to put it on a T shirt, like I'm

1419
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: low key be going with the flow, but not that

1420
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with like ambition or right planning, but

1421
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 2: I'm low key kind of like I don't know we'll

1422
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 2: see what happened, you know, so like what what is

1423
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 2: if you or what's next? Person? What are you looking

1424
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 2: at next?

1425
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just kind of enjoying trying to

1426
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: learn how to enjoy something like where it is right now,

1427
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm developing stuff, but you know that can be

1428
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: difficult while you're already working, so trying to like keep

1429
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: a healthy outlook on it. I definitely want to develop

1430
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 1: this Grandma show more. You know, I'll be like, I mean,

1431
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: for what it's worth. I mean, I'm not even like

1432
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: minimizing it in any way. I just I don't I

1433
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 1: don't know what that looks or really feels like until

1434
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 1: I see it. But because of the quarantine, so many

1435
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: things will push. So Maso, Atlanta, and Abbot will all

1436
01:19:55,400 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: be competing in the same Emmys. Yeah that I wrote

1437
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: for three of them. I think I'll be like triple

1438
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: probably like triple nominated.

1439
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 2: Hey, so like that means you could come up there

1440
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 2: with Does that mean you could come up there with

1441
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 2: a different group of people? So, like, is it do

1442
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 2: you have to worry about who you sit with?

1443
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: Different chanswers to lose to uh.

1444
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: To Omily in Paris and ship. I feel you. But

1445
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it, like do you have to make

1446
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 2: a decision where to sit? You know what I'm saying,

1447
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: Like you have to be like almost sitting next to

1448
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: the avid people, don't I'm not sitting with anybody.

1449
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think. I think I I definitely think

1450
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: I would sit with people.

1451
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 2: And then that's cool because then I'm gonna be looking

1452
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: on TV for the visual of like if Atlanta wins,

1453
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 2: it's like one nigga coming from way over here, like

1454
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 2: that's Jordan.

1455
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 3: I get this way to say, you know what, my

1456
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 3: table sixty seven way playing again on stage.

1457
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: That's dope, man. You I hope you went for all

1458
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 2: three man, so you know, I'm room for everybody. I

1459
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: hope y'all are nominated for all kinds of like best outfit,

1460
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 2: that's best make up, that's like whatever it takes, bro,

1461
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 2: We're room for you. Now, we know you. Now you

1462
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1463
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all. This is this is a this is

1464
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,879
Speaker 1: a great way to start on Saturday Sunday.

1465
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 2: But yes, oh I said, we're going back to day.

1466
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: That's how fun y'all are.

1467
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 2: We feel like a Saturday you know, what I'm saying through.

1468
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: A three day weekend, So like Saturday, get out here and.

1469
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: See Top Gun and support this white man.

1470
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: Uh with how american is it that after the week

1471
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: we had, the most popular movie would be.

1472
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 4: Top Right, that's that's dark.

1473
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 2: That is so, that is so american, can't be any

1474
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 2: other ye next week Mass Shooting will be number one

1475
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: in the theater. God, we ain't ship, bro Jordan, I'm going.

1476
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: To see that.

1477
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: Oh yo.

1478
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 3: I heard good things about it because at first I

1479
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know.

1480
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: Then everybody was like, it's good.

1481
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: It's some new ship happening. Now I've noticed it with

1482
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: Doctor Strange too. They put out that first trailer and

1483
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: they know it's not the Hot Fire. It could be, right,

1484
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 2: but then they put pressure on you with that. When

1485
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 2: it come out, they always drop a second trailer that

1486
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 2: have some spoiler shit in it, like we told jo

1487
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: Ass and then it's like, funk, I gotta go see it.

1488
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 2: Because with the Top Gun they dropped this new trailer

1489
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 2: and there's a bunch of dog fights and I was like, well,

1490
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: nigga ship, that's what I wanted to see. This classroom ship.

1491
01:22:54,560 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like, ain't.

1492
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 2: Nobody came about the class. Like the first trailer was

1493
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,919
Speaker 2: him in the classroom like I'm gonna teach y'all cadets,

1494
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 2: and it's like, who the fuck you think you are?

1495
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm maverick, fuck you nigga. The second one is like, oh, ship,

1496
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: this nigga just flew into a bridge, like well, yes,

1497
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: and he time cruise running. You know why I came Yeah,

1498
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 2: Doctor Strange. The fucking Friday it came out. It was like, oh, yeah,

1499
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: by the way, she killed the Illuminati or some shit

1500
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: you like these niggas was in the movie. Why wasn't

1501
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 2: this in the first trailer?

1502
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: You know, I saw everything every once. I'm not trying.

1503
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: Yes, oh I saw that too. I loved it. That's

1504
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 2: my favorite movie the year.

1505
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: That movie.

1506
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 2: It's don't it y'all cried at Two Rocks talking two

1507
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 2: Rocks hard. Yeah, I mean I still watch Doctor Strange though.

1508
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,480
Speaker 2: You know, if you watch Marvel movies, it's like curriculum.

1509
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: At this point, you start, you start missing classes. You

1510
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 2: ain't gonna know what's happening. The next movie. You gonna

1511
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 2: show up, and you're gonna show up and throw up

1512
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 2: like yo, who the fuck?

1513
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it goes far yeah, I.

1514
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 2: Do love you, love you, Wanda. You're gonna eventually end

1515
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 2: up seeing this. That's a bad that's a bad woman,

1516
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 2: right the dog?

1517
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeahs bad Listen.

1518
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: That was like that was one that movie Loki could

1519
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: have been marketed as the Scarlet Witch movie. And yeah, Loki,

1520
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: it could have been called the Scarlet Witch because she

1521
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: it went she went hard.

1522
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 1: Bro.

1523
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: Uh, now now that you I'm not trying to sell

1524
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: you in this movie. I know you just say you're

1525
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: not gonna see it. But when you do see it eventually,

1526
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 2: because all marvel things must be seen. When you do

1527
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 2: see it, you're gonna be like, oh, okay, I'll see

1528
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 2: why he was so hyped that day because Scarlet Witch

1529
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 2: went off. Yo. What yeah, no, no, no, are you doing I.

1530
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 1: Was getting hype up.

1531
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 2: Nigga, wait do you see that movie? I can't see

1532
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 2: this fucking movie. And the only thing that stopped her

1533
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: think it was like, hey niggas, Hey niggas. Sho he

1534
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: was he was strengs like he was fighting like eight

1535
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: niggas at the same time. Fine, she was like, uh

1536
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 2: she started sucking him up. He was like, I don't

1537
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 2: even know you. She's like, oh, you're gonna remember this nigga.

1538
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: She was like, you stole something from me.

1539
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: He was like, you said.

1540
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 2: This nigga called remember me. He was calling the ships

1541
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 2: and yo yo yo shoe. He was crying, what is it? Uh,

1542
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you, sucker. Well Jalsa from Uh the

1543
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 2: Design remember Black Dawn with de Lisa from a Different World?

1544
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 2: Uh slammed slam damon waves up against the window and

1545
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 2: she had like that poltergeis strength and ship. She was

1546
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: on our period and he started screaming that that's what.

1547
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 1: He was.

1548
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 2: She was on his ass. Anyway, You're gonna love this movie.

1549
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: Jordan's tell the people where to find you.

1550
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: Man from out in the streets.

1551
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 2: Okay, run up on.

1552
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: Them on the twitters at Jordie ployd. There you go

1553
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 1: make your Instagram soon. Probably not.

1554
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't blame him.

1555
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Apparently does does it seem? Do

1556
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: women seem to like offline guy? That's what they say,

1557
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: But I'm like, what also, woman should be offline?

1558
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean I think they like offline guys

1559
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 2: because you could tell when they post a picture of them,

1560
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 2: they always crop his face out.

1561
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to see.

1562
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 3: Things like his hands, like you know he exists, but

1563
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 3: you don't never know he's not in the background. They

1564
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 3: don't tag them, oh no, never tag is because.

1565
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: Also men, men are also worse online. Yeah yeah, in

1566
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: general and also to women. Yeah, offline.

1567
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 2: My favorite is when they post them and be like

1568
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: and don't even ask. You don't got Instagram, Like damn,

1569
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: Like it's some shark shit going on on Instagram. Now,

1570
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: that's like, you know what kind of shark you gotta

1571
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: be to be following your homegirl to hope she posts

1572
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 2: her man by accident so you can like get them.

1573
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 2: That's some shark ship. And yeah.

1574
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: No.

1575
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 3: The thing about Instagram for a lot of people, they're like, uh, yeah,

1576
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 3: we break up. I don't want to have to deal

1577
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 3: with the public thing gigs because then you got to

1578
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 3: follow me. Like it's like I said, I'm from a

1579
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 3: different generation. But it's a whole lands ordeal. You usually

1580
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 3: could just break up. Now we've got to break up online.

1581
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 3: We got to break up on Facebook and Twitter, we

1582
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 3: got to untag each other, we got to remove the pictures.

1583
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 1: It's the whole ordeal.

1584
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 2: Got to release a joint statement, right, It's a lot. Now,

1585
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 2: Jordan are you gonna get Are you doing any stand up?

1586
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: All? Right? Like?

1587
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: How does that work?

1588
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: When I feel like it? Doubt my friends? When my

1589
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: friends telling me to come out the crib?

1590
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 7: You know that's that's you know, that'd be like, man,

1591
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 7: he's ship, we're here, Oh where can I find?

1592
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: Oh? Where'd you know? He's like? You like me?

1593
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 2: You sound like me leaving a party every party I've been.

1594
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 2: He was cool. What happened to him?

1595
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? People realize, Yeah, just be going away. I don't know.

1596
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'll be doing it here and there. Mostly

1597
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 1: I'm just developing the Grandma Show and then I'm bringing

1598
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: I'm bringing The Sweet Lorraine Show to New York in

1599
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: November for New York County. So make sure y'all do

1600
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 1: that Union Hall. Yeah dope, make.

1601
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: Sure y'all support my man. I know we all just met,

1602
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 2: but I feel like we're family now. You know what

1603
01:28:54,680 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Anytime, never to promote something or whatever, feel

1604
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 2: free to come back, get us up and just email

1605
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 2: me after you see that doctor strange dog, because you're

1606
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 2: gonna really be like, Yo, this nigga wasn't joking. If

1607
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: I wander dog. She they finally gave her her dude dog.

1608
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 2: That's that nigga. All right, that's it, all right, y'all. Well,

1609
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 2: talked to y'all. We talked to y'all later in the week.

1610
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 2: Until then, I love you to