1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Up next, The Truth with Lisa both Hey, everyone, welcome 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: back to the Truth with Lisa Booth. This week we 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: are getting hashtag sassy with Massey because my guest is 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey. I retweet him almost daily. He is 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: leading the fight, leading the charge against these tyrannical vaccine 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: mandates in the country. He is a voice of sanity 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: among the insane, and he is standing up for your 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: individual rights and fighting against the people who are trying 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: to violate them. He was first elected to Congress in 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve. He represents the fourth District of Kentucky. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: Before he got into Congress, he actually went to m 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: I t here in a bachelor's degree, master's degree there, 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: and he when he was there, he actually invented a 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: technology that enabled people to interpret with computers using their 15 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: sense of touch. He leveraged that into a company which 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: then raised a ton of money, created jobs, obtained patents, 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: all that different stuff. My favorite thing on Twitter is 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: when people get a little too sassy with him and 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: they say, oh, yeah, well, where did you get your 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: math degree? Where did you get your science degree? And 21 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: he responds, m I t uh so. With that background 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: He's one of the people bringing sanity to all of 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: this conversation, so I am so looking forward to having 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: this conversation with him. He also wrote back in August that, 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: quote inserting needles and chemicals into people without their consent 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: is violence, and quote depriving them of their basic human 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: rights because they won't give consent is also violence. Right now, 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: we have a lot of hard working Americans, nurses, We've 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: got police officers, firefighters, and military members who are going 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: to be purged from jobs over a vaccine mandate that 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: is rooted in nonsense, that is rooted and alive. So 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: we will fight together. We will have this conversation on 33 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: the show. And I am so so looking forward to 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: having Congressman Thomas Massey on The Truth with Lisa Booth. 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: It's going to be a good one. So I am 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: so excited to have this next guest on, Congressman Thomas 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: Massey from the great state of Kentucky. I feel like 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: I retweet him every day, so I thought to myself, 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: he has to come on this show. Congressman, thanks so 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: much for joining me, thanks for having me on, and 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: thanks for all those retweets. You know I retweet you too. 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate that certain and I'm always excited when you do, 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: because you are very, very smart, and you're seemingly one 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: of the sane or one of the only sane people 45 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: in Congress these days. So I appreciate your fight for 46 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: freedom start. You know, I don't know about you, but 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: I have a little pep in my step today. Right. So, 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: this is the day after the Virginia elections and New 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: Jersey elections. I feel like the birds are chirping, the 50 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: sun is shining, that it is a new day in America. 51 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: How are you feeling after last night and what are 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: your key takeaways? Well, I was at the Trump Hotel 53 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: last night in a lobby slash bar with Marjorie Taylor 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: Green when we got the news. It was pretty exciting 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: watching the results come in. I think it's a repudiation 56 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden. I'm hoping it's somewhat a repudiation of 57 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: the vaccine and the mask Man dates and uh, I 58 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: was just really excited to see it. I was afraid 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: I would go to sleep and wake up and we'd 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: have a different result the next morning. So I was 61 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: just as excited to wake up and see we had 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: still one I said, well, actually, before the election was called, 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: I suggested that Virginia might be changing its state motto 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: to Let's Go Brandon. I feel like that should be 65 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: it should be a national day. Uh, we should have 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: a national day of acknowledgement. Let's go Brandon Day where 67 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: we we all come together, different political ideologies, different races, ethnicities, backgrounds, everything, 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: we just all come together. Let's go Brandon Day of celebration. 69 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: So I really want to talk to you about a 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: lot of the vaccine made dates you just mentioned, uh, 71 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: and and part of the daily retweets. But before we 72 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: do that, so I am sure it gives you satisfaction, 73 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: brings me satisfaction. You know, we know on Twitter a 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: lot of snarky comments. But when someone's like, oh yeah, 75 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: well what do you know about science? Or where did 76 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: you get your degree? And then you respond with the 77 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: with the degree from M I T. It's I mean, 78 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: it's got to bring some it's just got to give 79 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: make you giggle. At least my favorite one. And I 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: get to do this about every six months. Somebody steps 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: in it. But they say M I T. Should revoke 82 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: your degree, And I asked them which one? Because I 83 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: actually have two degrees from M I T. So it's 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,119 Speaker 1: kind of fun. I don't I don't put that anybody's face. 85 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: I am always um, at least only half as rude 86 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: as somebody is to me. Like that's my standard. I'm 87 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: never mean to somebody who's not mean first, and I 88 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: always do it in a nice way or try to 89 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: be sassy about it instead of just rude. So that's 90 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: why my hashtag is sassy with massey on on Twitter. Well, 91 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I never took it as anything rude or even condescetting. 92 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: I just always took it as it like gives people 93 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: a giggle, right, because I think politicians and all of us, 94 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: just anyone in the country at large needs to have 95 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: a sense of humor, and you know we don't. We 96 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: need to all not take ourselves so seriously. So that's 97 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: how I've always viewed it is just, uh, it's just funny, right, 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: So look at at heart, I'm still a hillbilly. I 99 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: grew up in eastern Kentucky and Appalachia, and I remember 100 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: going to Cambridge, Massachusetts, which I mean they were socialists 101 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: when even socialism wasn't cool yet, right, And because that's 102 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: where the M I. T. Campus was I It was 103 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: like maybe the second time in my life i'd been 104 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: on an airplane, maybe the third time. And I was 105 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: eighteen years old, and I'm crossing a crosswalk on Massachusetts 106 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: Avenue and Cambridge, Massachusetts. By the way, we didn't really 107 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: have red lights in the town I grew up in. 108 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: Had four people. We had one red light, but there 109 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: was no crosswalk. So I'm going through my first real 110 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: crosswalk at age eighteen and a car honked at me. 111 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: I'd only been there for like a day, and I 112 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: was so excited that I'd already met somebody I knew. 113 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't Why would that car be honking 114 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: unless it was somebody that knew me. So I turned 115 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: around and waved at the first car that honked at me, 116 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: And I would say, New England, that's awesome. Well if 117 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: if you're if you go to New York, you would 118 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: feel like everyone knows you, because that's all they do 119 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: is it's talk at you when you crossed the street. Uh, 120 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, you know, sir, We're we're just we're really 121 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: facing this fight against or this fight for freedom, this 122 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: fight against tyranny. With vaccine mandates in the country, I 123 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: want to play some sound from Bill Maher recently, who 124 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: was at least found a voice in some sanity and 125 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: all of this, and then I want to get you 126 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: on the other side of it. I know some people 127 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: seem to not want to give up on the wonderful pandemic, 128 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: but you know what, it's over. There's always going to 129 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: be a variant. You shouldn't have to wear masks. I 130 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't be able. I haven't had a meeting with my 131 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: staff since March. So he says that, and then he 132 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: also goes on to talk about how, you know, Democrats 133 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: think the risk from hospitalization for the unvaccinated over when 134 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: it's actually less than one. You know, Congressman, how do 135 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: we get to this place in society of just the 136 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: psychosis that has taken over regarding COVID. Well, you know 137 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: what I saw that clip, I believe, and I think 138 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: he had Senator Toombs there as a guest when they 139 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: were talking about that, and so I was happy that 140 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: he was talking to an elected Democrat, and the elected Democrat, 141 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that was a senator who was 142 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: there was kind of uncomfortable, and they should be uncomfortable. 143 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: You know, the Democrats used to promise to give you 144 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: somebody else's money, or that they would protect your job, 145 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: and now they're about printing the money or replacing you 146 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: with somebody else, or keeping you from getting a job 147 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: in the case of the gig economy, and um with 148 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: the vaccine. You know, they used to say your body 149 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: your choy said. Now they're saying your body our job. 150 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna force you to take this. And 151 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: I really hope that part of what we saw in 152 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: Virginia was sort of a repudiation of the metalitarian proposal. 153 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: You know, uh, you've seen the memes where I'm done 154 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: with my free trial and socialism. Yes, I'd like to 155 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: give it up. Yeah, well, I think we're a lot 156 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: of us and and it sounds like Bill Maher especially, 157 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: are done with our free trial of the government being 158 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: our parents or telling us what to do every day. 159 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: And you were right. That was Senator Chris Coons. And 160 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: what was interesting is he actually got him to admit 161 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: that natural immunity exists, even though it's being denied by 162 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: our public health officials. But yes, you did. Why why 163 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: is natural immunity being ignored? And it seems kind of important, right, 164 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: there's well, I'll tell you why there's no natural immunity 165 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: lobbyists in Washington, d C. I've had hundreds of them here, 166 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: hundreds of lobbyists. I mean, they have lobbyists for the 167 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: concrete industry, you know, in the asphalt industry, and there's 168 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: a lobbyist for everything, but there's not a lobbyist for 169 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: natural immunity. Nobody makes money on natural immunity. And uh, 170 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think kind of in the beginning 171 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: they didn't want to acknowledge natural immunity because they thought, well, 172 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: people won't know that they've had COVID. They'll think they 173 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: had COVID, and they'll be reluctant to get the vaccine 174 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: because they'll think they have natural immunity but they don't 175 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: have it. Well, there's a and so I understand that. 176 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: But antibody tests are readily available, and you know, detailed tests, 177 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: because even if you don't have the antibodies, you might 178 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: have natural immunity, you might have had COVID and you 179 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: still have memory cells, so there are ways to test 180 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: for that. I have pro vaccine friends who are pharmacists 181 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: that like their career, and one of them told me, 182 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: you know, people are asking me should I get the 183 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: booster shot, And she said, I tell them, you should 184 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: get a test to see if you have the antibodies 185 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: basically have they worn off yet from your other two shots? 186 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: And that's that's somebody who's pro vactine. His acknowledging not 187 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: just natural immunity, but why are we proposing a third 188 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: job for people whose medical condition we don't even know 189 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: and and state of immunity we don't even know well, 190 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: And what do we know about natural immunity in terms 191 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: of its strength against COVID? Well, people will always, uh, 192 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: they always criticize you if you use yourself as an anecdote. 193 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: But you know they said, that's say anecdotal. Well, if 194 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: you're the anecdote, it's pretty real. Right. So in my 195 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: own case, I had the antibodies about sixteen months ago, 196 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: Like I think I had COVID in January, and but 197 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: I know by the summer of I had had it 198 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: because I had an antibody test and um I have 199 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: subsequently later took an antibyte test that showed that they 200 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: had disappeared. But guess what, one of my children got 201 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: COVID and quarantined in our house after my antibytes had 202 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: supposedly disappeared. I didn't catch it then. And then another 203 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: one of my children recently got COVID quarantined in my 204 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: house with me right, I didn't go out of my 205 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: way to avoid them, didn't catch COVID. Pretty sure that 206 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: this child probably had the delta variant. Then I have 207 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: some close family members that don't want to reveal uh 208 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: somebody's medical the treatment or whatever, who got the double 209 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: jab of maderna backed in February and then had COVID 210 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: by August, and both of them did, and my wife 211 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: and I were helping take care of them when they 212 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: had COVID. Our own experience in our family is that 213 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: the natural immunity has uh not failed any of us, 214 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: and the vaccine has failed those within our family who 215 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: have taken it. Now they'll say, well, it reduces the 216 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: severity of your uh COVID case, And that may be 217 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: the case, but they no longer say that it prevents 218 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: you from catching it again or prevents you from spreading it. 219 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: But we all but we all know that that is 220 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: the case with natural immunity, you know. Uh. The bidens 221 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: folks like to say this is a an epidemic of 222 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: the unvaccinated now, and I say it's an epidemic of 223 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: those who don't have natural immunity, if you want to 224 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: look at it truthfully. Well, and of course we're you know, 225 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: you look at studies across the world and Israel talking 226 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: about the strength of natural music immunity, how long lasting 227 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: it is as well. Um, you know, and as you mentioned, look, 228 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: we're seeing so many people who are fully vaccinated get COVID. 229 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, just ask Jen Saki, right, you could circle 230 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: back with her, she just got it. Uh. You know, 231 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: we're also saying there's that recent study in the Lancet 232 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: basically just finding that the spread among household is pretty 233 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: much the same for vaccinated unvaccinated. So what's the basis 234 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: for mandates then? Because the premise originally was that it 235 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: would stop transmission, but we're saying that that's not the 236 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: case anecdotally and then also in recent studies as well, 237 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: So what's the basis By the way, they are over 238 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: a dozen studies. There's Cleveland Clinic study. Uh, there's the 239 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: Fiser study itself that showed the vaccine provided no additional 240 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: benefit to people who already had natural immunity. So what 241 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: what is the rationale for it? Well, ethically and morally, 242 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: whether the vaccine is effective or not, I don't think 243 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: you can justify it. But let's just say logically, let's 244 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: say you're Vladimir Putin and you you don't give a 245 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: flip about somebody's religion or somebody's well being. You just cant. 246 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: All you care about is GDP, and so you're gonna 247 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: mandate something that will be a better for society. Well, 248 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: this vaccine doesn't pass that test. It's not clear that 249 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: if everybody took it that society would be better off you. 250 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: For instance, let's talk about vaccine escape or sort of pressure, 251 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: evolutionary pressure on the various strains of the vaccine. Well, 252 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: the evolutionary pressure, selective pressure for strains that are resistant 253 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: to the vaccine is only present and those who are vaccinated. Like, 254 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: in addition to being an engineer and serving in Congress, 255 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: I have a farm, and so I have fruit trees there, 256 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: I have livestock. And every every buddy that gets any 257 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: training on spraying pesticides or fungicides or treating their animals 258 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: with antibiotics or any other kind of medicine, it's called like, 259 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: don't overuse this, only use it on the ones that 260 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: are sick. Uh. Switch the treatment the modes of action, 261 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: otherwise you'll get escape and all you'll be doing on 262 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: your farm is breeding fungus and disease and viruses that 263 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: are resistant to the treatments that are available to So 264 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: the way they're applying these by just in the middle, 265 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, vaccine eating with the leaky vaccine in the 266 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: middle of the pandemic is exactly the wrong way to 267 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: go about It. Should have treated the most vulnerable, protected 268 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: the most vulnerable, and frankly, you know, the kids should 269 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: have always gone to school. They never should have been 270 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: stopped from going to school. It's less a deadly or 271 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: uh you know, has less of an effect health effect 272 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: on them than the flu and many other things that 273 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: afflick children. So, so are you saying, just so that 274 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: I am clear, are you saying that the vaccine in 275 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: the middle of the pandemic may be causing additional strains? Oh? Yeah, 276 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's it doesn't like, let's say, breed them, 277 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: but it applies the selective pressure. Said that, if you 278 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: were to go out among the population and say, for instance, 279 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: how many and I think there's a study. Although I 280 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: can't side it, I can be honest, but I think 281 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: there is a study out there where they tested the 282 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: strain that the vaccinated have and it's almost all delta there. 283 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: And then they tested people who weren't vaccinated and they 284 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: have some of them have DEALTA, some of them have 285 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: the original strain. In fact, there's uh, if you plant 286 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: corn that's got to been genetically engineered to be resistant 287 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: to a certain pest, you have to plant a certain 288 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: amount of the corn that is not resistant so that 289 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: there will be uh sort of a reservoir for the 290 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: pest to keep breeding without breeding in that resistance uh 291 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: to whatever you know the corn has that keeps them 292 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: from keeps it from being eaten or affected. I mean, 293 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: this is just basic science. It's like we've forgotten, at 294 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: least we've forgotten everything we've known since four BC. Let's 295 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: just talk about, for instance, General George Washington. The liveribals 296 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: love to say, well, George Washington had a vaccine mandate 297 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: for his soldiers. You know, they inoculated them with smallpox 298 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: through the skin. Well, there's two problems with using that 299 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: as a president. What number one smallpox was deadly as 300 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: all get out. I mean, it wasn't like one in 301 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, a thousand or one and ten thousand people 302 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: who got it died. It was in the was like 303 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: ten and um, so it was more serious. But here's 304 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: the thing. George Washington when he mandated this for all 305 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: of his troops, he said, treat the ones who haven't 306 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: already had smallpox. He didn't. He wasn't. He wasn't ignorant enough. 307 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: It was smart enough, he put it that way, to 308 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: know that if you had already had smallpox, you didn't 309 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: need to get the inoculation. I called. I called up 310 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: Mount Vernon, which is the repository for all of his records, 311 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, that's his home instead, and spoke with somebody 312 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: at Mount Vernon and said, did George Washington himself get 313 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: the smallpox inoculation? And she laughed and she said why 314 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: would he? He had smallpox when he was a teenager. 315 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: He was smarter than that. Like so, like this is 316 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: the thing we've gone back, like two hundred and fifty years. 317 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying that the vaccine mandate would 318 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: be okay if you exempted people who had prior immunity. 319 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's completely unscientific not to exempt people 320 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: with prior immunity, and we've known about this for century. 321 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: Quick commercial break more on vaccines with Congressman Thomas Massey. 322 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: What I don't understand is, like, for instance, with Jen Psaki, 323 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: like everyone's like, oh, well, now she's not going to 324 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: die because she got the COVID. Well, she's also forty two, 325 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: so she's actually really not at a higher risk from COVID. 326 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: And I think we've kind of like we've forgotten as 327 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: a society to be able to look at risk and 328 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: to weigh risk. And so for instance, like I'm thirty six, 329 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm not getting it because I'm a ninety nine point 330 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: nine chance of survival against COVID, and I have questions 331 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: about the vaccine. Right, this is the first time we're 332 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: doing m R and A with a vaccine. I don't 333 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: think that people are being honest about risk of injury 334 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: or potential risk from death. And to me, the risk 335 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: from getting COVID does not outweigh the potential risks and 336 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: the unknowns of the COVID vaccine. So I'm not getting it. 337 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: But I also just don't understand how we as a 338 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: society have this every single person needs to get vaccinated, 339 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: regardless of risk, right, Like I think it should be 340 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: specific to risk, an individual choice and letting people take 341 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: an examination of their own health and deciding with their 342 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: doctor or with people they you know that are smart 343 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: and they trust in the medical field. Uh in deciding 344 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: what's best for them. You're completely right. And I think 345 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: that this crazy insistence that every single person get the 346 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: vaccine is making the people who might benefit from the 347 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: vaccine who haven't taken it question whether they should take 348 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: it because they see that the people who are advising 349 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: them are irrational. And uh So, I think that the CDC, 350 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: for instance, is doing more to promote vaccine hesitancy than 351 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: anybody else. By the way, I'm trying to promote vaccine 352 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: mandate hesitancy, not vaccine hesitancy. As I told you, I've 353 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: got I have some family members who's taken the vaccine. 354 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: We they uh decided they were in a high risk 355 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: category and that they might benefit from it, But I'm 356 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: never going to take it. Like in the beginning, I thought, well, 357 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: I've already had COVID, and if there's evidence that comes 358 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: out that shows that there's some benefit of this vaccine, 359 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: to me in addition to my natural immunity, I might 360 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: take it. But at this point I have seen enough, 361 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: I've listened to enough wise from the CDC. I have 362 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: recorded back when they found out that I would be 363 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: so transparent, before they found out I would be so 364 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: transparent with the American people, they would take my phone 365 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: calls and I recorded the CDC admitting that their website 366 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: had missed we you domistically called the mistakes at the time, 367 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: I will call them lines. Now they had lines on 368 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: their website and they told me and I recorded the 369 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: phone calls. They knew they were incorrect, and they kept 370 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: it up there anyway. Well, I tried to get the 371 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: CDC on record about taking examination of the children who 372 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: have died of COVID, which is obviously a very small 373 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: number in the country, and taking it a look at 374 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: who died from COVID or who died with COVID, because 375 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: that's a differentiation that is important, and when you look 376 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: at a small group, but you know, a small subset, 377 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: you could look into that deeper. Especially with the amount 378 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: of staff that CDC has no response on any of it. 379 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: Of course, completely ignored me. I called circled back as 380 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: Jen Saki would say, and nothing from the CDC. It's 381 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: like it's like they just don't want to be honest 382 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: with us, which to your point, like, I think there 383 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: are a lot of high risk people that might think 384 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: about getting vaccinated if they felt like they were getting 385 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: the truth. And I think we would have been better 386 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: off as a society by just letting people know whose 387 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: high risk and potentially what the vaccine could do for them, 388 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: who's low risk, and allow people to make the decision 389 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: that makes the most sense for them. And I think 390 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: you would have people trust to the system more. Well, 391 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: let me give you an example. Um, when I hate 392 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: to relate so many family uh situations, but I don't 393 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: think my brother would care my brother, So I'll tell 394 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: you the story. He's now yeah, I know, right, Okay, 395 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: So he got COVID. He got COVID and uh, like 396 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: they tell everybody, they're like, well, we can't do anything 397 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: for you, just stay home unless you get really sick, 398 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: and so you know, figure, Okay, they can't really do 399 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 1: anything for me. So I don't know. He went like 400 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: ten days, thirteen days, and he wasn't getting better, he 401 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: was getting sicker, and eventually went to the emergency room 402 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: and guess what he had developed bacterial pneumonia in like 403 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: if he hadn't gone to the hospital, he probably would 404 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: have died from bacterial pneumonia. He gave him an I 405 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: V of an antibiotic and he was good with them, 406 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: you know, a day or two. But how many people 407 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: is that happen to? And then they didn't get the 408 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: help or they went too far before they got the help. 409 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: They had some complication that was bacterial that and we've 410 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: known how to solve that with the antibotonic for a 411 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: long time, and they didn't get that treatment, or they 412 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: get that treatment too late. And maybe in my brother's 413 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: case it turned out okay, but in their case they died. 414 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: They probably would have been listed has died from COVID 415 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: even if it had been a bacterial infection that developed 416 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: later from COVID that could have been treated well. And 417 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: there's a big study I forget. It was of looking 418 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: at VA hospitals and they found that of the cases 419 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: that were studied, and it was a bunch of different 420 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: universities that were involved in it, or professors or whatever 421 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: from different universities looking at and they found that we're 422 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: basically in the hospital with COVID, not from COVID, So 423 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: it really just raises questions about looking at hospitalizations in 424 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: the country and also maybe even deaths in the country 425 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: if we're calculating things correctly. But I also feel like 426 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: this vac seen only approach, it's very myopic and it's 427 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: actually potentially putting lives at risk. I mean, you know, 428 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: for instance, we all saw the former CDC director Robert 429 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: Redfield on Fox recently said that over the people who 430 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: have died from COVID recently in Maryland were fully vaccinated. 431 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: Here in the state of Florida, where Governor to Santa's 432 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: is set up UH monoclonal antibody sites throughout the state. UH, 433 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: the majority of people showing up are fully vaccinated. So 434 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: if they don't have that option in these other states 435 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: because things like monocle and antibodies have been discussed or 436 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: other therapeutics haven't been explored because it's the vaccine only, 437 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: are we putting lives at risk. We're absolutely putting lives 438 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: at risk, and we're about to destroy our economy if 439 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: Biden follows through with these vaccine mandates. Uh. I just 440 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: came from a round table in my Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. 441 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: Literally the meeting just ended a couple hours ago, and 442 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: we had experts from the industry UH that deals with 443 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: the supply chain, try king experts, the people who own 444 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: unload the shipping containers and UM. One of the things 445 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: they keyed in on is the contractor mandate kicks in 446 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: on December, a write that date down for December, a 447 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: contractor mandate if you're a federal contractor. And then there's 448 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: this ocean mandate that's going to come out. What I 449 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: learned is that thirty seven percent of truckers say they 450 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: will retire, quit or find another job if they if 451 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: they are required to get the vaccine as a result 452 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: of the federal contractor mandate or the ocean mandate. If only, 453 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: let's say, if only ten percent of those follow through, 454 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: because it is a big deal to lose your job, 455 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: right and so maybe they're when push comes to shove, 456 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: they can't follow through. But it's just three percent of them, 457 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: do I mean ten percent of them, which would be 458 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: three percent of truckers. This would be a supply chain 459 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: disaster of epic proportions, and we will suffer from inflation shortages. 460 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: We'll get back to where we were eighteen months ago, 461 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: where they were euthanizing animals because they couldn't get them, 462 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: uh process them, you know, livestock for food. Uh. It 463 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: will be a dystopian future if Biden follows through, and 464 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: people will suffer all across the country if he follows 465 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: through with these mandates. Just on truckers, that's not even 466 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: talking about all the other people that are being mandated 467 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: are about to be mandated. And that's on top of 468 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: the massive global supply chain issue that we're already facing 469 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: as a country. So it's like it already seems like 470 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: we're faving. We're facing at least the worst one in 471 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: my memory, and then, as you're saying here, this mandates 472 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: could make it, you know, a thousand times worse. Yeah, 473 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: we're about to go over cliff. I'm hopeful, and this 474 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: is really sad when I say this, but I'm hopeful 475 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: that Biden is just bluffing and that he will come 476 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: to his senses or the people that advise him will 477 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: them to their senses and realize they it will completely 478 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: tank this economy if they insist on making truck drivers 479 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: take this. Uh. Because this is the other thing I 480 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: found out as a category. As a profession, truck drivers 481 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: are less likely uh to contract COVID. They spend most 482 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: of their time quarantined in the truck cab right driving 483 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: and uh they have very little interaction with other people. 484 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: That it's like the one category of people that makes 485 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: the lead sense to mandate a vaccine on well. And 486 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: it's also like, what is what is the point of 487 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: the vaccines because originally they told us they were going 488 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: to like, you know, President Biden sat there and told 489 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: people you weren't going to get COVID if you got vaccinated. 490 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: That's a lie. So it's like, there is no point 491 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: in getting the vaccine. It's not going to stop the 492 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: spread of COVID. If someone wants to get it as 493 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: an individual because you're worried about your risk from COVID, 494 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: then they should, But it's not going to stop the 495 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: spread of COVID, So manding eating it does not make sense. 496 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: It's like, I just I feel like we are living 497 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: in some sort of bizarro world where nothing makes sense anymore. 498 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: If you if you had a magic vaccine that would 499 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: protect people from other people. But I'm not talking about 500 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: sort of the morality of it. I'm talking about or 501 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: the constitutionality of it. I'm just talking about the logic 502 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: if you if you had one of those, you know, 503 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: you could justify logically, not morally, if it had no 504 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: side effects, that okay, we we gotta get everybody vaccinated 505 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: so that people can't hurt other people. And that's that's, 506 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: by the way, that statements antithetical to my libertarian leaning 507 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: republican ideology. But but I'm going out on this limb 508 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: to say that we aren't there. We aren't even there 509 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: with this vaccine, this vaccine. Nobody is any longer claiming, 510 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: not even the CDC, especially not the CDC, that this 511 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: stops people from giving COVID to other people. In fact, 512 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: there is a study that showed that the vaccinated are 513 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: giving it to the vaccinated inside of healthcare settings. And 514 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: so given that the only the benefits of the vaccine 515 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: provides is as a treatment for if you like, a 516 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: pre treatment for if you when you do get COVID 517 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: to reduce your symptoms, well, because there is a risk 518 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: associated with it, um there is no there is no 519 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: logical imperative for the government to force that on somebody 520 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: unless they are your legal guardian, like the only their 521 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: own person who could make a decision to take a 522 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: drug or treatment is the person themselves for their legal guardians. 523 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: And but what we're the situation we're in is the 524 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: government is pretending that they are are legal guardian now 525 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: that they or that they own this like livestock, and 526 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: that we're receiving the treat not to protect other people, 527 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: but to protect ourselves. But they're the ones prescribing it. 528 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: They own it at that point, and they keep by 529 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: the way. This is why they change the definition of 530 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: vaccination in September. They are slowly boiling the frog by 531 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: changing definitions in order to meet their mandates. Because their 532 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: mandate is an ethical, moral, constitutional, or even scientific in 533 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: the context of the performance of this vaccine. So they 534 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: have to change the definition of the words, and that's 535 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: what they've been doing, and they may soon change the 536 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: definition of fully vaccinated to uh to exclude people who 537 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: had two jabs. Well, I mean, it certainly looks like 538 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: the CDC director has opened that door in terms of 539 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: as you just said, it has to be three. But 540 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: it's also like I feel like there's also risk, and 541 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: I feel like people don't talk about that. I mean, 542 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: you have other countries that are pausing the Madurana vaccine 543 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: for you know, thirty and under due to myocardi ITAs, 544 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: you have blood clots. There's even death. I mean I 545 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: was looking at there's which you can't draw a straight 546 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 1: line to it because it is self reporting, so you know, 547 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: it's with a grain of salt, so this is not absolute. 548 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I look the other day, there's over 549 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: nine thousand deaths in less than a year. That's nine 550 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: times more than what's been reported for a twenty year 551 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: period for other vaccines between two thousand to two thousand twenty. 552 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: So it's like, I just feel like people aren't being 553 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: honest about the fact when there when there is that 554 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: element of risk, and I think that's still undiscovered. We 555 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 1: don't really know the full risk involved. But when there 556 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: is an element of risk, you shouldn't be forcing people 557 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: to get it, particularly again when it when it's not 558 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: going to stop the spread of COVID. Well, the and 559 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: the last people, the very last people that should be 560 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: forced to take it are pregnant women or women who 561 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: are going to conceive or half conceived, because you you know, 562 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: you can develop a drug at warp speed, but you 563 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: can't do tests long term tests on UH embryos and 564 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: babies and infants at warp speed. It takes nine months 565 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: for a baby to be bored, and then it's it's 566 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: really you know, two or three years until you know 567 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: if there were UH in many cases developmental issues as 568 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: a condition of something that happened in the womb or 569 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: during breastfeating. And it's just immoral. By the way, this 570 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: is something I've pointed out on Twitter, and I think 571 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: you've retweeted this. I probably have. They haven't approved the 572 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: vaccine for children ages zero to five. Okay, at the 573 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: time I tweeted it, I think it was zero to eleven. 574 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: If they haven't approved it for children ages zero to five, 575 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: how can they prove it approve it for women who 576 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: are carrying a baby that is zero age zero. And 577 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: they say, well, this is where they get real hand wavy. 578 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: And they say, well, the vaccine doesn't cross the placenta, 579 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: doesn't mix in the bloodstreams. Yet this literally the same 580 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: people who are saying that, or the same groups of 581 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: people will say, oh, if you get the vaccine while 582 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: you're pregnant or breastfeeding, you can pass your antibodies onto 583 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 1: your baby, and so you should You should definitely get 584 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: vaccinated while you're pregnant. In that way, your baby will 585 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 1: be born already immune. How could you say that's going 586 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: to work without admitting that something is crossing the placenta 587 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: or being exchanged between the bloodstream of the baby and 588 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: the mother having to do with this vaccine. Well, and 589 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: I haven't had kids yet. Uh, And my parents still 590 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: have hope for me. I am thirty six, so they 591 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: still are holding out. They're still holding out hope that 592 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: I will find someone to mary and eventually have kids. 593 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: So there is hope. But you know, so that's a 594 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: concern as well then obviously being low risk. It's just 595 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: you know, if if I was seventy five and then 596 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: potentially high risk, then you know that equation would look 597 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: different for me and where the vaccine would probably make 598 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: more sense to me. You had recently questioned Attorney General 599 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: Merrik Arlan and you asked them about the d o 600 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: J denying religious exemptions. I want to play this exchange 601 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: for the folks at home and then talk to you 602 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: about it after. Can you tell me if anybody has 603 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: been granted a religious exemption? I don't know, so I 604 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: believe that it's fraud, in fact fraud to tell people 605 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: that you're going to preserve their constitutional religious accommodations by 606 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: telling they can apply for an exemption and then not 607 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: allowing any of those exemptions. And I'm sad to see 608 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: that you can't tell us that anybody has been granted 609 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: an exemption. Congressman, you would ask that question to Attorney 610 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: General Merrick Garland about them denying religious exemptions. Why are 611 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: they doing that? Why are they denying religious exemptions for 612 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: the vaccine? Well, there's a whistleblower from the military who's 613 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: released internal memos that shows that you're just doing a 614 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: blanket denial of all religious exemptions. That's troubling to me. 615 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: I haven't confirmed the veracity of it, but if it's 616 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: it's true, it's problematic. So I asked Merrick Garland, the 617 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: chief law enforcement officer of the Land, um were they 618 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: receiving requests for religious exemptions at the Department of Justice 619 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: for employees of the Department of Justice and was that 620 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: required by law? And he actually quoted the law that 621 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: requires them to give religious exemptions for the vaccine mandates. 622 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: It's the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. And it was past 623 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: guests who introduced it, Chuck Schumer, Okay, the bill that 624 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: requires them to give religious exemptions. By the way, this 625 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: is when the Democrat cared about minorities and you know, 626 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: religions that might be under represented. Um. And so the 627 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: Religious Freedom Restoration Act, according to Merrick Garland in his testimony, 628 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: requires them to grant religious accommodations, which means religious exemptions 629 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: of vaccination. He refused, or he said he didn't know, 630 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: but all day he told us he didn't know. So 631 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: he refused or didn't know the answer to how many 632 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: had been applied for and how many had been granted. 633 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: And I said, well, that's a fraud if you if 634 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: you are offering something and it's not available, and so um. Actually, 635 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: this week I had another chance to question the head 636 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: of the Government Services Agency. This is the g s A. 637 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: They're responsible for every piece of federal property. It's owned 638 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: by the federal government, or least by the federal government. 639 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: And I asked her how many religious exemptions had been 640 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: requested and how many had been granted, and she didn't know. 641 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: And the deadline is is um the third week in 642 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: November for federal employees and December eight for federal contractors. 643 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: And I said, so, do you have the form ready? 644 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: Can you tell me how they apply? She didn't know 645 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: they didn't have it ready. I said, have you received 646 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: any advisement from the Biden administration on how to adjudicate 647 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: these applications? She didn't know, didn't have anything, said she 648 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: would share it with me later. I'm like, this deadline 649 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: is coming up, and you can't tell me anybody's been 650 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: granted a religious exemption. This is totally ridiculous. It's illegal, 651 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: and it's unconstitutional. I don't think they've granted. It's also 652 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: just so sad to be purging so many good men 653 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: and women who are willing to risk their lives for 654 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 1: this country, from the military, from the police, firefighters, nurses, 655 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: all throughout society. You have cities, and then also with 656 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: these federal mandates forthcoming of purging just good, hard working 657 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: people from society over this lunacy regarding the vaccines. It's 658 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: just it's it's heartbreaking to see in America. Just does 659 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: not feel right. It feels anti American, uh, and it 660 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: bothers me deep to the core. All these people were 661 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: heroes of the pandemic, the firefires, the policeman, the first responders, 662 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: the nurses, the truckers, they were heroes too, back when 663 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: Congress wouldn't even come to work. By the way, I 664 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: forced them to come to work by quoting the Constitution, 665 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: and they all get mad at me. They did come 666 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: to work. But and now they're doing proxy voting, even 667 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: though they've all all the Democrats have been vaccinated. In 668 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: any given week, they'll be like a third of them, 669 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: they don't even come to work. They don't come to work. 670 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,959 Speaker 1: Yet they want to mandate a vaccine for the people 671 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: who are coming to work. They did call them heroes, 672 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: and now they they are blaming them for the pandemic 673 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: because they won't take the vaccine, which doesn't even stop 674 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: the pandemic. And then the one that's that's the most 675 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: detestable to me is applying it to the military. These 676 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: people are facing court martials. They would be you put 677 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: in categories with rapists and murderers and be denied for instance, 678 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: they're right to own a gun after their discharged from 679 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: the military. These are like felonies that they would be 680 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: convicted of. Now, whether that comes to fruition or not, 681 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Even even if they just gave them 682 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: an honorable discharge, that is wrong. That's purging them from 683 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: the military um and it's you know, in many cases, 684 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: you've got people who been in eighteen years, they've got 685 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: two more years to get their full retirement, and they're 686 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: being faced with losing all of that, losing their g 687 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: I bill, but maintaining their bodily integrity. And it's not 688 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: it's not a stressful situation we should put them in 689 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: because more UH veterans and active duty members of our 690 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: military die of suicide in a week then have died 691 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: of COVID in a year, and so you're putting those 692 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: folks under even more stress, and it's just wrong. There 693 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: there are heroes. They're not to be experimented on or 694 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: forced to take this vaccine. It really is heartbreaking. And 695 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: I've gotten so many messages from people who are just 696 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: worried about their livelihoods. They've got kids at home, they've 697 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: served our country for a long time, and it just 698 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: it really really really breaks my heart. I mean, I 699 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: think about this way too much because I just feel 700 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: like what is happening deep to my core is just 701 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: so wrong. It's so wrong. And I'm doing a little 702 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: advertised yes, sir, I'm here for one of that. I 703 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you. It's so perfect. I was going 704 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: to ask you about that. So please, we're on the 705 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: same wavelength I have. I introduced this bill back in June. 706 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: There are people say, well, it's a little too late, Congress, 707 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: and Matthew No, I introduced this before there was even 708 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: really more than a rumor that there might be a 709 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: military vaccine mandate. It's HR thirty eight sixty. It would 710 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: prevent the military from forcing its members or coercing its members, 711 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: because that's what's been happening all summer in this fall 712 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: as coercion. They would prevent them from being forced or 713 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: coerced into taking the vaccine. And I think we're almost 714 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: up to fifty co sponsors. And there's a little parliamentary 715 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: thing you can do in Congress called a discharge petition. 716 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: If I can get two eighteen signatures on a discharge petition, 717 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: instead of this bill being stuck in the Armed Services Committee, 718 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: it will immediately proceed to the floor and we will 719 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: immediately vote on it in spite of Pelosi's wishes, and 720 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: we could stop this vaccine mandate if I can get 721 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: it to eighteen signatures. Now that would require presumably all 722 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: to twelve Republicans and six Democrats. But there's a chance. 723 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: And so if people are have family members in the 724 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: military and they want to do something, ask your member 725 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: of Congress have they signed a discharge petition? So thirty 726 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: eight sixty HR sixty and I am looking at I 727 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: hope this number is right. If not, someone's getting really spammed. 728 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: But I believe this is the congressional switchboard. You can 729 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 1: call to zero two two two four three one two 730 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: one three, one to one and ask your member of 731 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: Congress to sign on and and say the bill one 732 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: more time, Congressman. So people have it at home. HR 733 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: thirty eight sixty to prevent members of the military from 734 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: being forced to receive the COVID vaccine. Yeah, call your 735 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: member of Congress and tell them the police sign on 736 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: to this if they care about our military, if they 737 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: care about integrity, if they care about and protecting the 738 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: people who are willing to risk life in limb for 739 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: US and or freedoms are being denied their very own freedom. Uh, 740 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: and it's wrong. You know, Congress, we tweeted out something 741 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: today that that made me giggle. You had talked about 742 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: I guess you guys are still have to wear a 743 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: mask or they're still forcing masks? Is that right on 744 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: Capital I haven't been to Capital Hole and forever. It's 745 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of funny the Republicans. You can tell the Republicans 746 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: from the Democrats now in the House because Republicans aren't 747 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,479 Speaker 1: wearing masks and Democrats are in the hallways. I would 748 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: imagine maybe you could just tell through the eyes that 749 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: they're kind of souling today with with the classis from 750 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: last night. The worst part about the fact that all 751 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: the Democrats are wearing masks is I woke up this 752 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: morning eager to come to work to see the sullen 753 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: look on their faces, you know, like when Trump beat 754 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton in I remember coming back to Congress that 755 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: they just looked like somebody had shot their dog, and 756 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: I was looking forward to that today, and then I 757 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: realized they're all going to be wearing masks, and I 758 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 1: won't be able to see those sorry soul and looks 759 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: on their faces. But you can be sure that's what's 760 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: behind those masks today here in Congress, which also doesn't 761 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: really it's not really a strong testimony to the vaccines. 762 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: If everyone who's vaccinated on Capitol Health, these Democrats still 763 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: feel the need to wear a masks, still live in 764 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,959 Speaker 1: fear of COVID when they're fully vaccinated. It doesn't really 765 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: send that message of strength people at home, not at all. 766 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the photo op Kamala Harris did. 767 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: The doctor is wearing a mask. She's wearing a mask, 768 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: and she's receiving her third shot of the vaccine in 769 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: this photo op. And it's like, this is supposed to 770 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: convince us to take the three shots of the vaccine 771 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: and they're still wearing the mask. It's it's um it's ridiculous. 772 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: I think it promotes vaccine hesitancy, for instance. It don't 773 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: even get me started about the science of these masks 774 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 1: and the act that in the beginning, do you remember 775 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: Dr Fauci said, don't wear a mask. You're not trained. 776 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: It wouldn't fit right, you wouldn't know how to use it, 777 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: it can't possibly work. And they went from that at 778 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: the beginning, when they were telling us fifteen days to 779 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: slow the spread, they immediately flipped to saying to having 780 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: the Attorney General, I'm sorry, the Surgeon General on TV 781 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: showing people how to fold up a handkerchief and make 782 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: their own mask. And say this will work for you. 783 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: It's so ridiculous. They've grown science out the window. Well, 784 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: I think it's just theater and the sense. It's the 785 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: government trying to make people feel safer when the government 786 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: can't make us safer, and which is why we shouldn't 787 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: be giving up our freedoms for the false sense of 788 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: security or safety from the government which in which they 789 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: cannot provide, which is a you know, but I I 790 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: feel like hopefully praised Jesus with last night. Maybe people 791 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: are finally waking up. And I'm also hoping that now 792 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: the government is coming for children with the vaccine ages 793 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: five to eleven. I'm hoping that just like with the 794 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 1: fight against school boards across the country when they started 795 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,240 Speaker 1: realizing what their children were being taught government run schools, 796 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm hoping now that they're coming for the children. Parents 797 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: realize that children are incredibly low risk where the flu 798 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: is actually a bigger risk. And you know, it's a 799 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: wake up call to Americans that, you know, maybe the 800 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: government doesn't have our best interests at our here. Yeah, 801 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: you know, I think the Democrats they've told this sort 802 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: of at a macro level, and they see that people 803 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a majority of people are for vaccine 804 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: mandates or masks, but what they don't do is look 805 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 1: at the cost tabs and see that they're alienating their 806 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: own base of voters like suburban moms okay, who like 807 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: it or not, decide a lot of elections and decided 808 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: and probably to a large part of the elections in Virginia. 809 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: And when you tell suburban moms that we are going 810 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: to tell you what your children will learn and we 811 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: will tell you what medical treatments your children will receive, um, 812 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,279 Speaker 1: that's that turns them off from Democrats. And just to 813 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: key in on something you said, agree uh with you, 814 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: but I want to put a point on it. Uh. 815 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: You know, you said they want us to wear the 816 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: masks so that we feel safer, but in reality that 817 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: that's sort of at the first level, that's what they're doing, 818 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: but even deeper than that, they want you to be afraid, 819 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: and so they want you to think that they're the 820 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: only ones who can make you safe. But ultimately what 821 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: they're doing is keeping this notion of fear instilled within you. 822 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: And you know you started out with that clip from 823 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,360 Speaker 1: Bill Maher and that's what he was pushing back against 824 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 1: just quit being afraid. Let's just go on with our lives. 825 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: We can't live like this for it quick break more 826 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: of confers and Massy on the other side. Well, and 827 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: it was really at the beginning of COVID too that 828 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: this fear started being pushed unnecessarily in the sense of 829 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: like everyone thought, the uh, the fatality rate, it was 830 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: like three percent or something. But then you had people 831 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,879 Speaker 1: like Dr E. Needs of Stanford who wrote that op 832 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 1: ed in stat News which really completely blew my mind 833 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: and changed my perspective on it, who made perfect sense, 834 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: and he was saying, look, we're making these monumental public 835 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: policy decisions based off of terrible data. And basically the 836 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: fatality rate was completely skewed because the people we were 837 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: testing where the individuals are showing up at the hospital 838 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: sick and potentially near death. So of course the numbers 839 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: were skewed and we were missing throughout the country people 840 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: have had COVID by ten to sixty five fold, and 841 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: if those people had been calculated in, then the fatality 842 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: rate was significantly less than we originally thought. But and 843 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: people knew this, and there were ways that we could 844 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: have gotten that information with the sterological tests, which eventually, 845 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: you know, Stanford did in Santa Clara, and then You're 846 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: actually eventually did in the Miami Dade County, and then 847 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: that's when we found out that we were missing cases 848 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: by significant magnitude. But they still didn't change course and 849 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: a lot of these places, which always blew my mind. 850 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: Or even in New York, I think it was May 851 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: of I believe it was the majority people showing up 852 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: at the hospital. We're staying at home. So it's like 853 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: it's like we had the information in front of us, 854 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: but like the media didn't cover it, and also our 855 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: public health officials kept missing it and kept driving fear instead. Oh, absolutely, 856 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: you're right. They would go in and they would take 857 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: the fatality rates inside of a nursing home, for instance, 858 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: and and report that as the fatality rate. But if 859 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 1: you just looked at cruise ships, for instance. I looked 860 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: at that those numbers, and I'm from a small county 861 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: in Kentucky. We have only about fourteen thousand people in 862 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: that county. And uh, one of my staff said, well, 863 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 1: how bad do you think this is? This was back 864 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: when they were saying it's like Hibola, And I said, 865 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I think it's real. Look at the 866 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: cruise ship numbers. Just extrapolating from that, out of our 867 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 1: county of fourteen thousand, we're gonna know somebody who died 868 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: from this. By the time this is over, we're going 869 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: to know somebody. In fact, they'll probably be about fifty 870 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: people out of UH in our within our county die. 871 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: And it turns out there's been like fifty people in 872 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: our county die. And I made that prediction at the 873 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 1: very beginning, just based on the cruise ship data, which 874 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: is really all we had. But what you could assume 875 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: is pretty much everybody on that cruise ship by the 876 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,720 Speaker 1: time it got back was exposed to it, whether they 877 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 1: tested positive for it or not. And that wasn't the 878 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: youngest you know, sample set there was, and you know, 879 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: nobody really could foresee the delta variant, which I think 880 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:34,439 Speaker 1: we were really close to her immunity UH six nine 881 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: months ago. And what happened is the transmissibility of this 882 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: went up, which changes the percentage you have to have 883 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,760 Speaker 1: for her community. By the way, the number of people 884 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: vaccinated doesn't really change the amount with this vaccine that 885 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: you need for her community. When this is all over, 886 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: LEASA just gonna be there's gonna be uh, three categories 887 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: of people. They're gonna be the people who got COVID 888 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: and and never got vaccinated, the people who got vaccinated 889 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 1: and then got COVID, and the people who got COVID 890 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: and then get vaccinated. What do all three of those 891 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: groups have in common? They all got COVID. It's the 892 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: only off ramp. Now I'm not you know, there may 893 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: be some people who are lucky enough not to get 894 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: it ever, but I think this is going to be 895 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: circulating among our population because they've shown that dogs can 896 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: get it. Of the white tailed deer they tested and 897 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: like Michigan and Pennsylvania had COVID and star c o 898 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: V two antibodies. Uh this there's almost no animal that 899 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: can't catch it. Even if you could the vaccine where effective, 900 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: it wouldn't stop the spread because eventually it would come 901 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: back from the animal population where their reservoirs of it. Well. 902 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: And that's why why my frustration has been in all 903 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: this of this vaccine, only this myopic approach, where we 904 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: should have been like all hands on deck, all of 905 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: the above, all the therapeutics, look and I ever mact 906 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: and look into hydroxic, hydroxic cleric and whether you know, 907 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: look into these things if they work or not, monoclonal antibodies, 908 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: look for other things, all therapeutics, all above approach because, 909 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: as you're saying, a virus does what a virus does, 910 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: and the government can't stop a virus, right like the 911 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: virus is going, it's going to go from a pandemic 912 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,760 Speaker 1: to an endemic. It's probably gonna be with us for forever. 913 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: Everyone's eventually going to get it. Uh. You look at Sweden, 914 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: they took an opposite approach where they sort of realized 915 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: this of trying to obtain herd immunity of sort of 916 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, letting it work. It's through the way. You 917 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: know that it's gonna have to you know, it's going 918 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: to go through the population eventually. And what I think 919 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,800 Speaker 1: we should have been doing the entire time is figuring 920 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 1: out how do we protect all these people, uh, you know, 921 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: whether they're vaccinated or not, and just preventing death like 922 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: that that should have been the number one goal, and 923 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,720 Speaker 1: instead it's like vaccine or else, or you're an evil person, 924 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: or you're not a patriot, or you don't love your 925 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 1: neighbors or or you're unkind or your this or that, 926 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 1: or you're a lesser person in society, and like creating 927 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: these weird two stears of society when it should have 928 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,280 Speaker 1: just been about saving lives. There was a paper almost 929 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: a year ago. It came out in the Atlantic, actually, 930 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: and it was a survey of a lot of epideymeologists 931 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: and doctors, and they pointed out that the cold virus 932 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: is a coronavirus, and there are actually four or five 933 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: different versions of coronaviruses, and when you get them, it 934 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: causes a cold. Now, the point out in the article 935 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: the reason if you get it when you're eighty you 936 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: don't die is because you had it when you were 937 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: eight years old. And I was hopeful and still am. 938 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: That is what this becomes, is that once it's endemic, 939 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: it's basically the fifth or sixth coronavirus that circulates among 940 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: us and has for thousands of years. And when each 941 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: of those coronaviruses were introduced into the population, they were 942 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: probably pandemics, and then they became endemic because everybody gets 943 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 1: them when they're a kid. And my greatest fear is 944 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 1: if that is the case, that you know, this is 945 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: the next cold after And I'm not saying it's not now. 946 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm not down playing it and saying it's not serious. 947 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, once this has circulated and 948 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,760 Speaker 1: become endemic, it's I'm hopeful that it's just a cold 949 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: for all of us if we catch it again. But 950 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: I'm worried that they go in and mandate this vaccine 951 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: for children when they don't really need it, and they 952 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: could acquire the natural immunity from infection when they're young, 953 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 1: when it won't hurt them, and that when they get 954 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: older that could protect them instead. You know, we might 955 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: be getting on this treadmill where kid has to take 956 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: it to go to school and then they have to 957 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: get a booster shot every six months, or they go 958 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: to the lunch table and it's in their milk or something. 959 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of dystopian outcomes that could 960 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 1: come from this if we don't switch gears and and 961 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: don't start admitting we're going to have to trust our natural, 962 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 1: natural immune systems at some point. Well, um, you know, 963 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: i'd love to have you back on the show to 964 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 1: talk about January six as well. I've got, you know, 965 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: a whole host of questions on that. And I know 966 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 1: you've also and one of the few people in Congress 967 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,439 Speaker 1: fighting for transparency and honesty about what actually happened that day. Um, 968 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,399 Speaker 1: I know you've got votes, so I want to be 969 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 1: respectful of your time. Absolutely. Well, the funny thing is, Lisa, 970 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to be voting on the 971 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: Big three trillion dollar bill today. I think the Democrats 972 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 1: made delay that, uh, given what happened in in Virginia. 973 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: So we're gonna have votes today. But and so we'll 974 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: have to go. But I'm looking forward to coming back 975 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: on your show. We've got so many things to cover 976 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 1: and I am so excited this Congress. I got on 977 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 1: the Judiciary Committee, you know, with Jim Jordan and Matt 978 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: Gates and Andy Biggs and Chip Roy and it is 979 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,839 Speaker 1: it's just like a bar fight in there with the Democrats, 980 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: with Gerald Nadler at Corey Bush and you know, the 981 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,760 Speaker 1: whole host of Eric Swalwell. It's it's a fun committee 982 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: to be on. We'll have lots of topics to cover, 983 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: and so I will will come back on as soon 984 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: as you'll have me. I would love that, and I 985 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: I so appreciate your honesty, and I so appreciate you 986 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: fighting for the truth and freedom in America. So I 987 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: will keep retweeting you, sir. I would love to have 988 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 1: you back on to to talk about these other topics 989 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 1: as well. Keep retweeting Sassy with Massy please yes, hashtag 990 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: Sassy with Massy. Of course, have a great day, sir, 991 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. All right, I want to thank 992 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: Congressman Thomas Massey again for an awesome interview, and I 993 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: want to thank you guys at home for listening. 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