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Speaker 1: a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name

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Speaker 1: South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

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Speaker 2: Smart move to stick with Bricks. We know what happens

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Speaker 2: when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's an understatement. Bricks is a group of emerging

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Speaker 2: Now that sounds like the plot line of a movie.

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Speaker 2: I'm listening.

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Speaker 1: Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metal

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Speaker 1: inside intel? Absolutely, he's been there since day one. In fact,

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Speaker 1: a major theme at the summit is how Bricks Nations

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Speaker 1: aim to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

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Speaker 2: Yikes, that doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip

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Speaker 1: Stat already did and he left the Clay and Buck

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Speaker 1: audience this message.

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Speaker 3: The world is moving on from the dollar quietly but steadily.

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Speaker 3: These nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Philip. Protect the value of your savings account,

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Speaker 1: your four oh one k r ira, all of them,

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Speaker 1: by purchasing gold and placing it into those accounts and

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Speaker 1: reducing your exposure to a declining dollar value. Text my

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Speaker 1: You can rely on Birch Gold Group as I do

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Speaker 1: ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 1: in here to Clay and Buck. We've got some good

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Speaker 1: at this first off, here is and we'll credit journalist

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Speaker 1: Here's what they're saying about the situation, play six. It

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Speaker 5: What do you think about that as scurity?

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Speaker 5: I have noticed that they have been cleaning some of

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Speaker 2: Eighty one percent of Americans say that violent crime in

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Speaker 2: I think the parent discussion should be a part of this.

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Speaker 2: need to be in possession of a gun. And I

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Speaker 2: don't mean that because you're worried about them shooting up

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Speaker 2: other places or killing other people. I mean your kid,

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Speaker 2: if they have mental illness, or they have depression, or

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Speaker 2: they have some form of psychoactive issue that you are

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Speaker 2: aware of as a parent, they shouldn't be around firearms

441
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Speaker 2: Like this has nothing to do. I get so fired

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Speaker 2: up about this because I've got three boys.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: I just don't believe that in any of these mass

445
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Speaker 2: shooting situations there weren't tons of clues that these parents

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Speaker 2: saw and they just pretended that it wasn't there, and

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Speaker 2: they let their kids remain in possession or in ownership

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Speaker 2: of firearms. Right, And so I look at this, this

449
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Speaker 2: mom is hiding. It sounds like from investigators not participating

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Speaker 2: in the investigation. I think it's probably going to come

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Speaker 2: out that she knew her son was a threat both

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Speaker 2: to himself and to others, and she just pretended it

453
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Speaker 2: was going to go away. I think that's what's going

454
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Speaker 2: to come out. Also, it's not going to surprise you.

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Speaker 2: But I wanted to play this. The WNBA coach in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 2: she has decided to weigh in and she says, hey,

457
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Speaker 2: we can't tell kids anything positive because we don't care

458
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Speaker 2: about them. This is woke WNBA nonsense. But I wanted

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Speaker 2: to play it for you too. This is what you

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Speaker 2: might be hearing if you were watching CNN or MSNBC.

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Speaker 5: It's such an indictment of our society and our lack

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Speaker 5: of regard for life. There are things that we can

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Speaker 5: do about it, and we know, but for some reason,

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Speaker 5: as Americans, we value something different. It's sickening, sad for

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Speaker 5: the kids, Sad for the kids to go up like

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Speaker 5: the sad for kids, a lot for the door and

467
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Speaker 5: not know what's going to happen. Hearts go out to

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Speaker 5: obviously the I've lost kids that are hurt, the teachers

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Speaker 5: that have to go through this, families that drop their

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Speaker 5: kid office school and some kick hearts hearts go out

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Speaker 5: to them. The sad thing is they can't sit here

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Speaker 5: and tell them that help is on the way because

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Speaker 5: we're not going to do a damn thing.

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Speaker 2: About okay, and she's not talking about doing a damn

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Speaker 2: thing about it, as in investigate what's going on with

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Speaker 2: trans she means she wants all your guns taken away.

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Speaker 1: And let's you know, they always want to talk about

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Speaker 1: mental health. Should should? Should being trans bar you from

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Speaker 1: owning a buying and owning a firearm. I mean the

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Speaker 1: left would absolutely freak out about that. But are we

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Speaker 1: going to now? They want mental health checks, they want

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Speaker 1: this is why again, Yes, you can hear the conversation

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Speaker 1: with Trey. I was shocked at mister Gowdy's uh. I

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Speaker 1: thought he misspoke on which is how we started that

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Speaker 1: interview with me giving him an opportunity to say, upon reflection,

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Speaker 1: because you do live radio, you do live TV, you're

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Speaker 1: not perfect. So I thought he would address it and

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Speaker 1: take back some of what he said. He did not

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Speaker 1: at all, not at all. He's like, we need a

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Speaker 1: new law, we need a new law that's going to

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Speaker 1: stop people from and I say Okay, what's that law

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Speaker 1: going to be as well? If someone's adjudicated mentally okay, well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, a lot of places already have something

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Speaker 1: on you know that's similar. The problem is adjudicating somebody

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Speaker 1: mentally deficient. The problem is figuring you or you know,

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Speaker 1: mentally incompetent to own but basically a danger to themselves

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Speaker 1: and others. What do you think the system that we

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Speaker 1: have is going to catch everybody that's crazy? Good luck

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Speaker 1: with that one. And what are the what are the

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Speaker 1: implications the civil rights and First Amendment and other implications

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Speaker 1: of Oh, we're deciding that you're crazy, so we're taking

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Speaker 1: away your right. Everybody knows I'm saying this, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of you are already nodding your heads. Oh, you

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Speaker 1: mean they're going to try to take guns from veterans

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Speaker 1: who have PTSD, right, because that's going to happen in

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Speaker 1: blue states. You mean they're going to try to take

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Speaker 1: guns from people, You know that a whole range of things.

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Speaker 1: It'll be used as a tool, weaponized immediately and right away.

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Speaker 1: And so what's the law And to the point being

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Speaker 1: made here by was the w he said was a

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Speaker 1: w NB W NBA head coach. Yeah, head coach. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they say we know what to do. Say what it is? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if the whole the whole point here is that people

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Speaker 1: get to point at their political adversaries and say they're

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Speaker 1: the bad people because they won't do the good thing.

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Speaker 1: What's the good thing? What's the thing that we'll say.

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Speaker 1: You know, yesterday with Trey, I even said, look, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, uh, putting more armed guards at schools. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about maybe having a program that specifically puts veterans

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Speaker 1: who have firearms training to protect our kids, to protect

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Speaker 1: our houses of worship, a lot of places of armed

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Speaker 1: security all of the country. Why not protect our kids.

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Speaker 1: That's something, and that's something that might actually work passing

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Speaker 1: a law that that that what that says, if you're

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Speaker 1: the most insane, vile lunatic on the planet, you can't

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Speaker 1: get a gun. Well, yeah, we got to find out

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Speaker 1: who the insane, vile lunatic is before they shoot everybody.

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Speaker 1: And that's the part of this that they don't even address.

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Speaker 1: They don't even talk about.

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Speaker 2: I just every time this happens. I do not see

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Speaker 2: this as political. Every single public and private school in

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Speaker 2: America should have security guards armed they're twenty you know,

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Speaker 2: every hour that the kids are there. I don't understand

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Speaker 2: how this isn't standard operating procedure.

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Speaker 1: I've said it.

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Speaker 2: I always think about it in the context of would

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Speaker 2: I want this for my kids? And if the answer

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Speaker 2: is what I want it for my kids, almost without exception,

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Speaker 2: my answer for all of you is going to be

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Speaker 2: I want it for your kids and grandkids too. My

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Speaker 2: kids public and private school have had armed security. I

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Speaker 2: don't understand why the immediate response from this when we

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Speaker 2: look at what we spend and waste dollars on, you

544
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Speaker 2: ran through the math. Basically, I mean, this is ten

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Speaker 2: billion dollars a year nationwide that we could put in

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Speaker 2: place and say, let's do it. When I look at

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Speaker 2: the way that we waste money protecting kids' lives at school,

548
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Speaker 2: young innocent kids, and letting every bad guy out there know, hey,

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Speaker 2: there's arms security at this school. Because what did we

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Speaker 2: see with Covenant, These these evil people are doing stakeouts

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Speaker 2: of the schools to see whether or not they're secure,

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Speaker 2: and if they are, maybe it makes them change their

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Speaker 2: minds just a little bit. The Bridges is a good

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Speaker 2: example this. I was talking about this with my wife

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Speaker 2: the other day. You know, they put fences basically higher

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Speaker 2: up on bridges to try to limit suicides, and people

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Speaker 2: drastically do not commit suicide at the same level when

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Speaker 2: they just have to climb up a little bit more

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Speaker 2: over the top of a fence or a secure area.

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Speaker 1: Fences as a security system make it harder slow people down.

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Speaker 1: By the way, true with the border as well. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I've seen at the border people scaling the fence, but

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Speaker 1: you know what you see them. It slows them down

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Speaker 1: and then you can arrest them on the other side.

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Speaker 1: It's not the people go. If you have a ten

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Speaker 1: foot fence, I'll have an eleven foot ladder. Guess who's

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Speaker 1: waiting for you on the other side of that fence,

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Speaker 1: if it's well constructed and it's double layer and there's

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Speaker 1: sensors in place. Border patrol. Yes, all security measures are

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Speaker 1: imperfect on their own, but that doesn't mean they're not useful.

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Speaker 1: And it's certainly useful. I would even advocate for a

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Speaker 1: program that says, look, why does conceal carry work so well?

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Speaker 1: Clay and a total credit to more guns, less crime.

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Speaker 1: John Lott on this. What you find out is that

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Speaker 1: it's not that everyone has to conceal carry. It's that

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Speaker 1: in places where there is concealed carry, the bad guy

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Speaker 1: has to think somebody here might have a gun, and

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Speaker 1: that changes the calculation. Sometimes they do and they go

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Speaker 1: for it anyway, and then there's a good guy with

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Speaker 1: a gun there. But in the school system, if you

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Speaker 1: even just had let's say, if a state said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we're going to have a program, some uniform,

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Speaker 1: some out of you know, some open carry, some concealed carry,

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Speaker 1: changes the calculation for school shooters inherently, and there's no

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Speaker 1: loss of attendant rights. There's no I'm going to harass

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Speaker 1: people who are good people who haven't done anything like

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Speaker 1: That's the part of it that also has to be

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Speaker 1: taken into account.

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Speaker 2: I wish if we were going to have a conversation

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Speaker 2: nationwide about that's the one we'd go to. It's the

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Speaker 2: one that I try to push every single time any

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Speaker 2: of these incidents happen. Look talk with any Israeli citizen

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Speaker 2: these days, they'll tell you peace and quiet's the top priority.

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Speaker 2: No one wants the current conflict in the region to

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Speaker 2: So welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Our

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Speaker 2: friend Alex Berenson, formerly of The New York Times write

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Speaker 2: about almost everything on COVID, Remember back when that mattered.

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Speaker 2: Now it's just like everybody wants to pretend COVID never existed,

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Speaker 2: and there were never restrictions, and they never said, hey,

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Speaker 2: go sit in circles in public parks. They never said, hey,

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Speaker 2: take your put your mask on to walk to a restaurant,

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Speaker 2: then you can take your mask off as soon as

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Speaker 2: you sit down, that none of this absurdity. Schools weren't

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Speaker 2: shut down all these things. I thought about it this

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Speaker 2: morning because I'm still angry about it. When I took

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Speaker 2: my kids, we had a doctor's appointment, and you had

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Speaker 2: to wear a mask to go to a kid's pediatric

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Speaker 2: appointment for years in much of the country. But Alex,

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Speaker 2: we want to talk with you now about the school

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Speaker 2: shooting and uh in Minneapolis. We have been talking about

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Speaker 2: this quite a lot, and we're going to get into

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Speaker 2: a variety of different angles that you think are significant.

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Speaker 2: But let's start here. How much attention do you think

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Speaker 2: there should be. You're a parent, Buck is now a parent, Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I've got three kids. On the idea of minors being

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Speaker 2: given drugs relating to their gender in the wake of

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Speaker 2: the school shooting in Nashville and the school shooting in Minneapolis,

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Speaker 2: is it reasonable to say, hey, let's look at what

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Speaker 2: we're giving these minor kids.

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Speaker 1: Is it having an impact in their decision making?

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Speaker 4: Yes? I mean, I think if you frame it that way,

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Speaker 4: the answer is yes. And you know that's not to

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Speaker 4: say that you know, most trainings, kids or kids getting

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Speaker 4: you know or you know or even young adults getting

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Speaker 4: transformones or in any way violence or dangerous. But uh,

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Speaker 4: you know this has now happened a number of times,

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Speaker 4: and I think it you know it it raises this

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Speaker 4: bigger question, right, like these are very powerful drugs, you know,

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Speaker 4: sex hormones are you know they're they're they're very powerful.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, even though they're naturally occurring, that doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: they're not powerful and are when you frame it us,

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Speaker 4: are they affecting kids decision making? That's a that's a

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Speaker 4: perfectly reasonable question.

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Speaker 1: To ask, now, Alex, I know you are very vocal

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Speaker 1: about your what you see as a connection between uh

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Speaker 1: psychosis from marijuana slash THHC, right, the psychoactive drug that

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Speaker 1: that is what people are smoking the weed for, uh

652
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Speaker 1: and in general just the psychosis of it. But you

653
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Speaker 1: also think that the walk me through here what you

654
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Speaker 1: believe because I've seen you on on Twitter talking about

655
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Speaker 1: this or rather writing about this. Do you think there's

656
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Speaker 1: a link between the psychosis that has has been a

657
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Speaker 1: huge factor obviously in some of these horrific shootings and marijuana.

658
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Speaker 1: Want to use talk us through that?

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Speaker 4: Sure, So start with this cannabis. And you know, listen,

660
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Speaker 4: I wrote a book right in twenty nineteen called Tell

661
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 4: Your Children that went into this connection in depth. And

662
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: so although I'm not an MD or a PhD, I

663
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Speaker 4: believe that I am qualified to talk about this in

664
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Speaker 4: a serious way. And I've read, you know, basically all

665
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: the literature that I can find on it, and the

666
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 4: evidence has really only gotten stronger since Tell Your Churn

667
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: came out, which was six years ago. There's been more

668
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: studies done. So look cannabis, you know, slash THC because

669
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 4: as you said, TC is the active ingredient in cannabis,

670
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 4: is the drug in cannabis that makes people high, can

671
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: cause and worsen psychotic episodes in people. There's there's no

672
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Speaker 4: question about that. I think even the cannabis lobby would

673
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: acknowledge that, and there is now, I would say, very

674
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Speaker 4: good evidence that in some people, especially if you start

675
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: using cannabis at a young age, and especially if you

676
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 4: use a lot of it, and especially if you use

677
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: high potency cannabis, and unfortunately, all those three things are

678
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 4: all connected. If you're doing that, you increase your risk

679
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: of developing schizophrenia, and schizophrenia is essentially a permanent psychotic condition. Right,

680
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 4: So people with schizophrenia will become psychotic. They'll maybe manage

681
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: their psychosis with drugs, drugs called antipsychotics, they may get

682
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Speaker 4: a little bit better, but then they're likely to become

683
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Speaker 4: psychotic again. They'll relax sor The definition of schizophrenia is

684
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Speaker 4: that it's a psychotic condition that's not drug related. It's

685
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: not related to dementia, it's not related to anything else,

686
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Speaker 4: and it just comes and goes, and it's a really

687
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: terrible illness. Okay, about one in one and fifty people

688
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 4: have this illness, and for the most part, they don't

689
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 4: get married, they don't work, they don't have kids. They

690
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 4: die about twenty years younger than other people on average,

691
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: because it's you really can't function very well in society

692
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Speaker 4: with schizophrenia. The other thing about schizophrenia, about psychiasis, is

693
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Speaker 4: that people who have it are much more likely to

694
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Speaker 4: become violence. There's no question about that. They're also more

695
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: likely to be the victims of violence. So let's be

696
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: clear about that too. But you know, when the classic line,

697
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Speaker 4: the line that I use and tell your children is

698
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 4: when you see somebody if you're just a you know,

699
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Speaker 4: an ordinary person. You're on the subway platform in New

700
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 4: York City, you see somebody talking to himself who clearly

701
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: hasn't showered or you know, bathed, who might be homeless

702
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 4: at the other end of the platform or near you.

703
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: You walk over to the other end of the platform.

704
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Speaker 4: If you intuitively know that psychosis is dangerous, human beings

705
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: know this. They know that people who are disconnected with

706
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Speaker 4: reality and be dangerous to them. And that's particularly true

707
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Speaker 4: when the psychosis has a paranoia flavor. So if I

708
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Speaker 4: become mentally ill and I'm convinced that you are out

709
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 4: to get me, I might latch out and hurt you.

710
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: And that might be if you're a stranger, it might

711
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Speaker 4: be if you're my child, it might be if you're

712
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 4: you know, a police officer. Right, So, once I become

713
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Speaker 4: convinced that you're a risk to me, I will lash

714
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Speaker 4: out against you. And this is a real connection. I

715
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Speaker 4: don't think anybody serious in the psychiatric community, in the

716
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Speaker 4: medical community without any of those things. So that I've

717
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Speaker 4: just told you so, the question then becomes in encouraging people,

718
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Speaker 4: or allowing people, or allowing an industry to spring up

719
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Speaker 4: that encourages the use of cannabis and THFC, which is

720
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Speaker 4: a known psychomametic drug. Are we essentially facilitating or encouraging.

721
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Speaker 4: Encouraging is the wrong word, but is it.

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Speaker 2: Like let me cut let me cut you off your

723
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: for a sex result, let me cut you off for

724
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Speaker 2: a sack? Alex, Because I think this is important. I

725
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: mentioned that we're all parents. I think a lot of

726
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Speaker 2: people around our age, and we're all around the same

727
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: age actually bought into the idea that we'd that THHC

728
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Speaker 2: is in some way healthier to use and less.

729
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Speaker 1: Damaging than alcohol.

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Speaker 2: And if you look, if you look at the data

731
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Speaker 2: right now, and I think this is important, alcohol use

732
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Speaker 2: among young people is hitting record lows. They are not

733
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Speaker 2: in any way using alcohol like past generations have. Also,

734
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Speaker 2: nobody young, by and large smokes right like nicotine and

735
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Speaker 2: the idea that you would smoke a pack of day.

736
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Speaker 2: The use of cigarettes has collapsed among the young, but

737
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Speaker 2: use of THC, use of weed related products has surged,

738
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Speaker 2: and the idea has been Alex that this is healthier

739
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Speaker 2: and better for kids, better for young people young adults.

740
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Speaker 2: What you're telling us is that the evidence is actually

741
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Speaker 2: that we're trading less dangerous objects for more dangerous ones

742
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Speaker 2: based on some of the data that you're seeing.

743
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Speaker 4: So if more complicated even than what you just said.

744
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Speaker 4: And here's why alcohol use is down, okay, But it

745
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Speaker 4: is not clear that people who use cannabis use less alcohol.

746
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Speaker 1: Okay.

747
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: People use drugs tend to use drugs, okay. So what

748
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: you get is sort of an additive effect where people

749
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Speaker 4: are using alcohol and cannabis amb So.

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Speaker 2: There's not as much of a substitution as my question

751
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Speaker 2: implied based on what the data you see shows.

752
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Speaker 4: That's right. There are some people who are just using

753
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Speaker 4: less drugs right, just the way their kids, you know,

754
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Speaker 4: kids like people I would say teens and young adults.

755
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Speaker 4: They have sex less. Some of them don't drive, which

756
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Speaker 4: just seems absolutely crazy to me. They seem perfectly content,

757
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Speaker 4: a lot of them to sit at home and essentially

758
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Speaker 4: do nothing. And those are not the And some of

759
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: those people are using cannabis, but some are not. But

760
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Speaker 4: there's definitely a group that is using cannabis and other drugs,

761
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Speaker 4: even including psychedelics, in addition to alcohol. So what I

762
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Speaker 4: would also say is it's not people say to me,

763
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Speaker 4: how can you say cannabis is less dangerous than alcohol?

764
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Speaker 4: Nobody over ever odd on cannabis on THC, which isn't

765
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Speaker 4: quite true. People can od on it, mostly they don't

766
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Speaker 4: die on it. And here's the answer to that, true

767
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: answer to that cannabis is less physically dangerous than alcohol.

768
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 4: No one could seriously disagree with that. If you drink

769
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Speaker 4: too much alcohol, your liver can stop and you'll die.

770
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Speaker 4: All right, that is not very likely. I mean, it's

771
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Speaker 4: not going to happen if you use cannabis. But cannabis

772
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Speaker 4: is more dangerous to your brain than alcohol. People don't

773
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Speaker 4: get psychotic except in very very rare times or in

774
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: very late stage alcoholism from using alcohol. They do get psychotic,

775
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 4: paranoid and psychotic all the time when they use cannabis. Okay,

776
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 4: it's almost a feature of the drug. And so so

777
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 4: those are people are more dangerous to the people around

778
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Speaker 4: them in general than somebody who's using alcohol.

779
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Speaker 1: And yes, sorry, no I want to ask you finish

780
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Speaker 1: your thought. If something else, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: So the question is, like, as a society, we're sort

782
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Speaker 4: of trading. We're trading a bar fight for like a

783
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 4: mass stabbing or a mass shooting. Right, maybe we're training

784
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: ten bar fights or one hundred bar fights for a

785
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 4: mass shooting. But that is a real trade that we're making.

786
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 4: This idea that that somehow substituting cannabis for alcohol is

787
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: going to be a good for public health doesn't look

788
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 4: like it's the case at all. And by the way,

789
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 4: people one last thing on this idea that when people

790
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 4: are high and they drive, they don't speed. It's not true.

791
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: This idea that people who use cannabis have a better

792
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 4: mental health is one hundred percent not true. In addition

793
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Speaker 4: to this, this what I'm talking about with psychosis based.

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Speaker 1: So Alex, I hate, I hate, we I hate we do.

795
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Speaker 1: Just to be clear, so I'm you know, everything you're

796
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Speaker 1: saying here it jives with what I think and that

797
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: I want to ask you something else that's that's related.

798
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Speaker 1: But because when these things happen, you have a lot

799
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Speaker 1: of people that will say, oh, you know, and I'm

800
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Speaker 1: seeing this on the right particular, which why I want

801
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: to talk about it. They go, oh, it's they start

802
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: blending SSRRIS and this. I think there's a lot of

803
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: misinformation or a lot of people need to understand. Like

804
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just say this. I knew someone very

805
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: well manys Ago, who is bipolar and I knew this

806
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Speaker 1: person someone, you know, it was a woman who I

807
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: was dating on meds, totally normal, doing great, very successful

808
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: life off meds cannot function and so I just think that,

809
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Speaker 1: you know, people, there's this thing of like SSRI zombies

810
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: are running in and killing people. The right needs to

811
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Speaker 1: understand that actually, in the mental health world, there are

812
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Speaker 1: people who are their lives are saved by being on

813
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Speaker 1: these drugs. Actually, and a lot of veterans who deal

814
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: with PTSD whom I know, have gotten tremendous benefit from SSRI.

815
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 1: So can you speak to this a little bit because

816
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: I think people just are like everybody on SSRI should

817
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: get off. I'm like, that is a terrible idea.

818
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 4: It's a terrible So I don't understand. I hate for SSRIs. Okay, look,

819
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: I think SSRIs are overrated as drugs, and most people

820
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 4: who have mild depression are going to recover from that

821
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 4: depression on their own, whether or not they take an SSRI.

822
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Speaker 4: But there are some people out there who have really

823
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: severe depression and who really can't function very well without

824
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 4: an SSRI. And by the way, if you have psychosis,

825
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: there are drugs called antipsychotics, and those drugs. Those are

826
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 4: difficult drugs for people. They cause a lot of weight gain,

827
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: they cause movement disorders in some people. But if you

828
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Speaker 4: if you have psychosis, you need anti psychotic like those

829
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Speaker 4: drugs help people. And and I think there's a really

830
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Speaker 4: important distinction to make that gets lost between essentially recreational drugs,

831
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Speaker 4: drugs of abuse and SSRIs and antipsychotics, and and so

832
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Speaker 4: people will say when I say this, like, people are like,

833
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 4: he he's a simp for pharma. And I say to them, like,

834
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Speaker 4: do you know who I am?

835
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Me, Well, this is why this is why I

836
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Speaker 1: wanted you to talk about it, Alex, because I when

837
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Speaker 1: I try to point out reality people too, I'm like,

838
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: no one's like sitting around just popping lots of prozac

839
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Speaker 1: because it's so fun.

840
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Speaker 4: That's exactly right. So, so the distinction isn't between a

841
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: drug you prescribe and a drug that's not prescribed. The

842
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 4: distinction is between drugs that get you high and drugs

843
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 4: that don't get you high. So what gets you high.

844
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 4: Stimulants get you high. So that's like an ADHD drug

845
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: adderall that's amphetamine. Those drugs get people high. Benzos anti

846
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: anxiety drugs, people take to get high. Nobody takes prozec

847
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: to get high. Nobody takes Vyprexa, which is an antipsychotic,

848
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 4: to get high. Those drugs have no street value because

849
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 4: they don't get you high.

850
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: And the people who need them really really need them

851
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Speaker 1: in many cases.

852
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 4: One right, and so again, like, are sthry is potentially

853
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: over prescribed? Sure, I'll tell you something right now. Right now,

854
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: most fsrized are off patent okay, prose off patent lexipro

855
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 4: off patent okay. That means that the companies don't make

856
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: any money basically from them, and they're still being prescribed.

857
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 4: Why because there's some people out there who need them.

858
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: And you're totally right to make that point. And again

859
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 4: I'm not like, I agree with you. I don't understand

860
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 4: why the right has suddenly gotten fixated.

861
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: On SSRs yris and they're wrong. Honestly, a lot of

862
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: the people that are doing this are just and they

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Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking about. And I'll just say

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Speaker 1: it out loud because I know it's true.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you this, Alex as we

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Speaker 2: go to break, because I do think so many people

867
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Speaker 2: listen and their moms and dads, their grandma and grandpas.

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Speaker 2: What would you want them to tell their kids who

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Speaker 2: are fifteen or sixteen years old and have bought into

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Speaker 2: this idea that you can use THCHC products as much

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Speaker 2: as you want and there's nothing to be concerned about

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Speaker 2: with that. In thirty seconds, what would you want them

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Speaker 2: to know?

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Speaker 4: In thirty seconds? And then and then I hope you

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Speaker 4: give me one final segment. But in thirty seconds, what

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Speaker 4: I'd say to you is, it's not just about TC,

877
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Speaker 4: and it's not just about alcohol. There's no free lunch. Okay.

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Speaker 4: A drug that gets you high that alters your relationships

879
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Speaker 4: to the world, you're gonna pay a price for it,

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Speaker 4: and it may be a small person and may be

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Speaker 4: a price that you're willing to pay to have that

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Speaker 4: up or that intoxication in the moment. But don't make

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Speaker 4: the mistake of thinking cannabis and TC is medicine. Don't

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Speaker 4: but it is coming. That's what I would say to that.

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Speaker 4: That's what okay, kids.

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Speaker 1: for a second. You had more on this one. You're

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Speaker 1: en fuego. Go ahead, so listen. Here's what I want

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Speaker 1: to say. The President of the United States right now

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Speaker 1: has a very important decision that he's that he's trying

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Speaker 1: to make about whether or not cannabis should be reschedulized,

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Speaker 1: rescheduled as a as a less dangerous drug under DEA rules.

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Speaker 1: And so if he does that, Okay, by the way,

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Speaker 1: it's currently called Schedule one. But that doesn't affect your

922
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Speaker 1: ability in a legalized state to buy it. It doesn't

923
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Speaker 1: mean anybody is arrested for possessing it.

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Speaker 4: Or using it. All that stuff is under the current situation, Okay.

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Speaker 4: But the cannabis industry desperately wants them to reschedulize because

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Speaker 4: it will be a huge boost to their profits, okay.

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Speaker 4: And that will mean more pop ads, it will mean

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Speaker 4: more dispensaries, it will mean more kids and young people

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Speaker 4: it's gonna get you know, kids out of jail. Because

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Speaker 4: it doesn't change any laws. It just will make their lives.

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Speaker 4: We do and you me, Laura Ingram. We don't have

935
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Speaker 4: we think it's important for the health of kids and

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Speaker 4: young adults. And I know it's a tough choice, but

938
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Speaker 4: the President should go with his gut. I know that

939
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Speaker 4: he's concerned about stuff and confused. I know you know

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Speaker 4: he's seen its effects on people. And he should keep

941
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Speaker 4: cannabis as a schedule warm drug. And he should listen

942
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Speaker 4: to people who don't have money.

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Speaker 1: Alex, parents and everybody. Alex, thanks for being here, guys,

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Speaker 1: our three coming up stick around all right, welcome back

945
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Speaker 1: in here to Clay and Buck. Mary Catherine Ham joins

946
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Speaker 1: us now. She is a Fox News contributor and she

947
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Speaker 1: also has a podcast of the Play in Buck Network

948
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Speaker 1: normally with Carol Markowitz. Our dear friend, Carol mark Witz. Ms.

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Speaker 1: Catherine Ham. Great to have you on the program. I

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Speaker 1: think we could maybe jump into this. Are you with

951
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Speaker 1: Clay that if somebody likes I grew up in Manhattan

952
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Speaker 1: where college football wasn't really a thing. Are you with

953
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Speaker 1: Clay that if someone likes college football, you inherently trust

954
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Speaker 1: and probably just like them a little bit more like

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Speaker 1: from go they're in a good place with you.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, like you reference normally, and that's like my normy meter.

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Speaker 11: If you enjoy and engage with college football, you get

958
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Speaker 11: like a free pass to the normy lane in my mind,

959
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Speaker 11: and you have to prove otherwise with your weirdness at

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Speaker 11: some point.

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Speaker 2: It's totally true. We just speak a common language. Even

962
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Speaker 2: though Mary Catherine Ham is a Georgia Bulldog fan and

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Speaker 2: is now getting to celebrate the fact that her team

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Speaker 2: is incredibly good and my team hopefully is on the

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Speaker 2: comeback trail a little bit with the University of Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: But I do think it's important.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about this with Cracker Barrel, and I

968
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: know you've had takes and we'll get to some serious things.

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Speaker 2: But does it continue to astound you how many companies

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Speaker 2: hire people who would never consume their product ever to

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Speaker 2: try and convince people why they should consume a product.

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Speaker 2: I just I fundamentally don't understand it.

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Speaker 11: I don't either. The cracker barrel thing was such a

974
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 11: weird hangover move. It's like, what year is this? What's happening?

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Speaker 11: And to the extent that it was woke, it was

976
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Speaker 11: just that these people in the C suite are so

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Speaker 11: disconnected from normal people who might stop at a cracker

978
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Speaker 11: barrel that they have no idea what's animating that decision,

979
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Speaker 11: Like I would stop at a cracker bill more often

980
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Speaker 11: if the food just came out a little faster, like

981
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Speaker 11: just adjust to that for me, and I'm good. My

982
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 11: kids love to go. I love to go. I like

983
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 11: the vibe, we like to shop a little bit. I'm

984
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Speaker 11: here for it. But the woman who is running the

985
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Speaker 11: place and the marketing team have no idea what it's

986
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Speaker 11: like to take a family with three kids or four

987
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Speaker 11: kids to a cracker barrel. I just I don't think

988
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Speaker 11: they've ever done it.

989
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Speaker 1: I've actually never been to a cracker barrel. So I'm

990
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Speaker 1: excited to now go try try the cuisine that is

991
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Speaker 1: now at the center of this national rebranding firestorm. So

992
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Speaker 1: I've got that going for me, Mary Catherine, which is

993
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: nice something else that came up because we're kind of,

994
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Speaker 1: you know, last last hour for a few folks here

995
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Speaker 1: in the office before the holiday weekend starts. So we're

996
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Speaker 1: doing a bit of a grab bag and one of

997
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Speaker 1: them is play shared out just now a you know what, Clay,

998
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: I'll let you describe it. This goes to the rules

999
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: around when is it appropriate for an adult to ask

1000
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: for an autograph. Let me first put in though, autographing

1001
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 1: someone's book signed by the author totally legit. I hope

1002
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: all of you buy my book in Clay's book, and

1003
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: we'll sign as many of them as we can. But

1004
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Speaker 1: signing like paraphernalia if you're an athlete, What are the

1005
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: rules about this? Because Clay, what just happened that got

1006
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: all this fire storm? It's it's blown up at the

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Speaker 1: US Open.

1008
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: They've got the tennis tournament going on out in New

1009
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: York now, And my general proposition, and this gets people

1010
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: really fired up, is you shouldn't wear if you're a man,

1011
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: you shouldn't wear a jersey of a player younger than you.

1012
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: I think it's a weird.

1013
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: Look, you know, old school, like I was a Bo

1014
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Speaker 2: Jackson fan or a Michael Jordan fan. I'm not saying

1015
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Speaker 2: that I look good in a jersey, but I'm okay

1016
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Speaker 2: with people that you grew up a fan of. But

1017
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: when you're like, I'm forty six, if I'm wearing a

1018
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: nineteen year old jersey, I think it's a really weird look.

1019
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: So wear a polo, wear a T shirt, whatever you

1020
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: want jersey and a grown man that's way like a

1021
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: generation younger than you.

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Speaker 1: It's very strange.

1023
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: Also, but pointed out autographing books, which are written for adults,

1024
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 2: is the design process. I am very very anti grown

1025
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Speaker 2: adults boxing out kids at sporting events getting autographs. And

1026
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Speaker 2: there is a viral video that is now circulating that

1027
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: I just shared of a tennis player signing autographs for

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00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: a kids. He actually takes his ball cap off and

1029
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: tries to hand it to a kid. An adult autograph

1030
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: seeker comes in and grabs this. This happens with foul

1031
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: balls every now and then it happens with autographs. If

1032
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: you're an adult trying to get an autograph, I think

1033
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: you should reconsider your life's decisions. At an athletic event,

1034
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: step back and let little kids in front of you,

1035
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: because the adults box out the little kids everybody has

1036
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 2: seen this.

1037
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: You're weird.

1038
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: If you're forty and you're desperate to get a twenty

1039
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 2: four year old's autograph. That eight year old that you're

1040
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 2: boxing out, it will be one of the coolest moments

1041
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: of his life. Maybe reconsider your life options. Is that

1042
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: normal or am I the outlier here?

1043
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Speaker 6: No?

1044
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 11: I think you're right on that. I'm going to beg

1045
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 11: an exception on the jersey front because there's a Georgia's

1046
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Speaker 11: kicker named jack Ham and I just like, I have

1047
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 11: to go with it.

1048
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: But on this you're also by the way, hold on

1049
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: females can get away with wearing any jerseys that they want.

1050
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: This is specifically designed for men, grown men wearing kids

1051
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: jerseys unless it's your own son and you have the

1052
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: same name and he's on the team, is I think weird.

1053
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1054
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Speaker 11: As for this viral video, that man's behavior is trash.

1055
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 11: It is trash. He gets in there so quick and

1056
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 11: grabs this hat from this kid, and he does it

1057
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 11: very on purpose, and he hands it off and hides

1058
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 11: it from the kid very quickly. That he has an

1059
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 11: accomplished I think he's a lady next to him, and

1060
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 11: that is trash behavior and you are putting yourself above children,

1061
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 11: and you are using your advanced wits and motor skills

1062
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 11: to best them to this hat, and it is just

1063
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 11: a sad said look for you. The hat was clearly

1064
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,959
Speaker 11: meant for the child. Get out of there. Wait your turn.

1065
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 11: Let every child that is in the front row go

1066
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Speaker 11: before you, at the very least before you step in there.

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Speaker 1: Now your podcast, Mary Catherine and Carol's podcast, Carol Markut's

1068
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Speaker 1: and Mary Catherine Ham do a podcast together normally on

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Speaker 1: the Clay and Bluck Network. You're hitting your one hundredth

1070
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Speaker 1: episode coming up on September second. How's it been doing

1071
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Speaker 1: the show so far? What's the feedback been like from

1072
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: your listeners? And win are Clay and I going to

1073
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: come on and mansplain feminism to feminists? Not you, but

1074
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Speaker 1: as a general thing. We've been talking about how this

1075
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Speaker 1: would be helpful.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, we have.

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Speaker 11: So much fun and would you believe that between us,

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Speaker 11: with the seven children, we have still produced one hundred

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Speaker 11: episodes on time. For all of those episodes, We're very proud.

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Speaker 11: We feel like we have a very normy audience, many

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00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 11: of whom are moms and parents who write in to

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00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 11: tell us. Thank you for just assessing the news without

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00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 11: losing your mind. Now. Granted, sometimes it's hard to do that.

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00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 11: It was harder during the Biden administration when I was

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00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 11: losing my mind on the regular. But I think people

1086
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 11: are looking for news without their blood pressure necessarily going up.

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00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 11: If my blood pressure is going up, I want it

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00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 11: to be for the dog, or I want it to

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Speaker 11: be over that guy with the hat at the US

1090
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 11: Open who's a jerk. I don't want it necessarily to

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00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 11: be driven up while I'm trying to get educated every day,

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Speaker 11: and so we try to keep it between the lanes.

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Speaker 11: But you know, we also got some weird takes every

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Speaker 11: now and then. That's who we are.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, what can I ask you a

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00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: question actually about that? What is this? What is the

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00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: take so far on the normally podcast that has that

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00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: has been the most controversial that maybe you didn't think

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Speaker 1: was going to be controversial at all.

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Speaker 11: Ooh, ooh, gosh. I have to think about this. I

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00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 11: think I think anytime, look, we do some critical of

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Speaker 11: the Trump administration takes right, and I think sometimes when

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00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 11: we do that we surprise people. But I think that

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00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 11: would be the area where we get feedback, but we

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00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 11: often get feedback that's like very thoughtful and and nice

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00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 11: because we cultivate that kind of audience. By the way,

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Speaker 11: I don't believe in man's plaining anyway. I think like

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00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 11: I'm one of those people who believes when men defend

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00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 11: man's plaining's they're basically like, that's how we have a conversation.

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00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 11: I'm like, I know, I get it. I get that

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00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 11: that's what's happening there because they grew up with you,

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00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 11: brother brothers.

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Speaker 2: You've got like you just said, seven between you and

1114
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: Carol kids. Seriously, here, when you see some of the situation,

1115
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: the situation happened in Nashville, situation that happened in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: We talked about parents, and one conversation. Obviously, I think

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00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: we should have armed security in schools. We've talked a

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00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: lot about that, but I don't think we talk enough

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: about parents. And if you know your kid has depression issues,

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Speaker 2: which hopefully you would know, or you know your kid

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Speaker 2: has mental health issues, you can strongly believe in Second

1122
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: Amendment rights and also understand that that doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: every single person in your household should have access to firearms.

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Speaker 1: I wish we talked more.

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Speaker 2: About like I look at that kid's pick sure, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, this is not a person who is in

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Speaker 2: mental health.

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Speaker 1: You know, good position. I don't see how mom and

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00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: dad could not know that. Right.

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Speaker 2: We should talk I think more about parenting aspects here

1131
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: and what we should expect parents to do.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, if that young man, young man specifically is in

1133
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 11: your home, you have to have an inkling that this

1134
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 11: is going very much off the rails and you need

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00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 11: to keep such things away from him. We also have

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00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 11: an issue, I think where we used to have a

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Speaker 11: way of dealing with adults with very very severe mental

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00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 11: illness in psychosis, and they would have places that you

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00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 11: could go for that. As a parent of an adult child,

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Speaker 11: trying to get that kid to take medication or to

1141
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 11: go to see whatever therapist he needs to see becomes

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Speaker 11: very difficult, particularly if you're a woman with a son

1143
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 11: who can overpower you. Like this is a very tricky situation.

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00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 11: But I do think parents have to take responsibility for

1145
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 11: the fact that they need to know what's going on

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00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 11: with those kids. It's especially they're in their same house,

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01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 11: I mean, which was the situation here. And it would

1148
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 11: also help if the press would just refer to the

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01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 11: guy as a guy and stop pretending that a woman

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Speaker 11: committed this crime. It's crazy what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. I just saw this actually, Maric Catherine NBC

1152
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: News headline, and it just goes in the whole story.

1153
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: She she, she, she, The Democrats have not learned their

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Speaker 1: lesson on this at all. In fact, they're doubling and

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Speaker 1: tripling and quadrupling down.

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Speaker 11: No, they really haven't, and by the way, they really haven't.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I.

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Speaker 11: Don't appreciate them messing up women's mass shooting stats. Okay,

1159
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 11: like we are not playing for this one. But it's

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01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 11: just the media is supposed to make it easier to

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Speaker 11: understand what happened, and I know that we lost that

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01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 11: ability a long time ago. That value was lost some

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01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 11: time ago. But in situations like this, and particularly on

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01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 11: trans stuff, the way that they word stuff is so

1165
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 11: dependent on an ideology and has nothing to do with

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Speaker 11: helping you understand the facts on the ground, and it's

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01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 11: just disgraceful. It's anti jerm. It is the exact opposite

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Speaker 11: of what you are taught to do if you are

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01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 11: in some way trained to be a journalist. But now

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Speaker 11: they're taught to do this and it's just poison.

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Speaker 1: What is George's record going to be this year?

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Speaker 11: Oh, it's gonna be perfect. See I'm such a homer.

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Speaker 11: You can't even ask me that stuff. You can't even

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Speaker 11: ask me. It's pathetic.

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Speaker 2: Do you have games on the schedule like that you're

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Speaker 2: going to try to go to Because I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: at FSU Alabama this weekend. I've never been to Tallahassee.

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Speaker 2: You can't wait to check it out. You've got an

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 2: absolute brood. So it becomes difficult, I know for a

1180
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Speaker 2: lot of people to move the whole apparatus with seasons

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Speaker 2: and everything else. Will you try to get your whole

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Speaker 2: family to games or no?

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Speaker 11: So what usually happens is that once every four years

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Speaker 11: or so, I'll get all the kids to a game,

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01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 11: and in the interim, either I will go or my

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01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 11: husband and I will go together. I did take on

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Speaker 11: one occasion.

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Speaker 4: You'll be proud.

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Speaker 11: On one occasion, right after I gave birth to my

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Speaker 11: third child, she was a month old, and I was like,

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Speaker 11: I gotta go to a dog's game because this is

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01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 11: the year we're going to win the Natty and we

1193
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 11: indiddep we indeed did so. I was like, I got

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01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 11: to get them all there so I can say they

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01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 11: saw the Dogs play. That year, I took three children

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01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 11: on a twelve hour road trip to watch the Dogs

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Speaker 11: with a one month old and yes that was crazy,

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Speaker 11: and yes it was worth it.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. I'm taking my boys. I know all of

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Speaker 2: them at least. That's the plan to the Tennessee Georgia

1201
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: game in Knoxville on September thirteenth, where Tennessee is going

1202
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Speaker 2: to finally in the losing streak to your Georgia Bulldogs,

1203
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: ensuring that they are not in fact undefeated. Mary Catherine Ham,

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Speaker 2: where can people find your content? You do great stuff

1205
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: in the podcast You're on Fox News regularly. You write

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01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: on occasion for OutKick. Where would you tell people if

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Speaker 2: they're enjoying this to find you?

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Speaker 11: Just look at me at mk hammer on Twitter, at

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Speaker 11: mk hammer Time on Instagram if you want, and you

1210
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Speaker 11: can find me on normally podcasts and you should awesome.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Have a good weekend.

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Speaker 11: Thank you very much, guys, have a good football weekend.

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Speaker 1: Amen. I can't wait. That is Mary Catherine Ham.

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