Speaker 1: Remember we played that pick up basketball game.
Speaker 2: Oh man at Adam lavine House. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: you look like, you know what I mean? I just
Speaker 2: and here's this dude flying up the court taking off
Speaker 2: fromt the free throw line. I'm like, who is this dude? Like,
Speaker 2: you gotta be you gotta be somebody. He was like, man,
Speaker 2: Julian Adam and I said.
Speaker 3: A year.
Speaker 4: Today with two time All Star U c l A
Speaker 4: great Warriors legend Aaron Davis, and we're talking in this
Speaker 4: episode where we believe Warriors.
Speaker 2: It was like a moment part of the bay. It
Speaker 2: kind of like started a new chapter one hundred or something.
Speaker 4: This was the last time I was a Warriors fan. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I remember everyone calling Oracle role. You know, this place
Speaker 4: was going crazy and it wasn't like that my whole life.
Speaker 1: Can you put in context how good this team was
Speaker 1: this year for the Mavericks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty seven wins is very, very tough. This was
Speaker 2: their year. They were wiping through the entire league.
Speaker 1: They won't be them.
Speaker 3: This will be an entertaining series.
Speaker 2: Dallas Mine invited Kate Hudson, Smooth Jessica. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: we're gonna close this out. I invited all my friends.
Speaker 4: You won't believe what NBA legend surprises us during our
Speaker 4: post guest segment, Whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3: Whoa, What's going on here?
Speaker 4: Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to
Speaker 4: Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler,
Speaker 4: and we're on the mission to find the greatest game.
Speaker 1: Of all time.
Speaker 4: On today's episode, we're covering game six of the first
Speaker 4: round of the two thousand and seven Western Conference Playoffs
Speaker 4: between Goliath the Dallas Mavericks and David the Golden State
Speaker 4: Warriors with.
Speaker 1: The eighteen year NBA.
Speaker 4: Veteran two time All Star U C. L a Great
Speaker 4: and Warriors legend Baron Davis. And we're talking in this
Speaker 4: episode that we believe Warriors.
Speaker 1: Classic squad classic.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, those guy's caught fire.
Speaker 4: He had some good stuff to say about that, about
Speaker 4: the city, the environment, the atmosphere.
Speaker 6: Behind him, wild stories, first time he met.
Speaker 4: You, getting hot in the NBA with the legendary run
Speaker 4: the right time, Baby, legendary run.
Speaker 6: A lot of good stuff this episode.
Speaker 4: And you won't believe what NBA legend surprises us during
Speaker 4: our post guest segment.
Speaker 6: In little in our little old Games with Names.
Speaker 5: Studio, I'm gonna see us.
Speaker 1: You got it, moving on it.
Speaker 4: You gotta stick around to the very very, very very.
Speaker 1: And let's go.
Speaker 3: Let's go.
Speaker 4: May third, two thousand and seven, Oracle Arena, Oakland, California.
Speaker 2: The eighth seed Warriors have the number one seed Mavericks
Speaker 2: along the brink of elimination.
Speaker 1: Everybody counted the boys from the Bay out.
Speaker 5: But we believe this game six of the two thousand.
Speaker 2: And seven Western Conference First Round.
Speaker 4: Welcome to Games with Names, Baron Davis, we are so
Speaker 4: happy to have you here. We got Jack Kyler. They
Speaker 4: also are on the show. And let's start off quick.
Speaker 4: Let's started off quick. Why did you choose this game?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: For me, I think it was like, uh it was
Speaker 2: like a moment for the Bay where it kind of
Speaker 2: like started a new chapter, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so you know, for me watching this game and
Speaker 2: bringing his game up, it was really about the resilience, right,
Speaker 2: because if you watch the entire series, in every game,
Speaker 2: you'll see that we slowly started like running out of gas,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like we had like it
Speaker 2: was leading up to it was like exhausting because we
Speaker 2: were having so much fun and we start winning and
Speaker 2: catching you know, you catch a streak and we caught something.
Speaker 2: And then when we like when it got close, it
Speaker 2: was like it became super intense because every game we
Speaker 2: had to win. You know, I remember getting kicked out
Speaker 2: a game or some shit. Stephen Jackson got like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, It was like every every time
Speaker 2: you fuck up, you know what I mean, the last
Speaker 2: four games could cost you, and we were not expected
Speaker 2: to go to the playoffs.
Speaker 4: No, would you guys go? What fourteen and six? Yep,
Speaker 4: fourteen and six and the last twenty one best in
Speaker 4: the league. You were the hottest team. I remember this time.
Speaker 4: I mean I was so happy to get you in
Speaker 4: here in the nuthouse to talk about this game because
Speaker 4: this was the last time I was a Warriors fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like this was what two.
Speaker 4: Thousand and six, two thousand and seven, that that year,
Speaker 4: and then like two years later I went to Boston
Speaker 4: and then the new regime came.
Speaker 1: But you guys like kicked that up. I mean I
Speaker 1: remember everyone calling Oracle roracle rouricle.
Speaker 4: This place was going crazy, and it wasn't like that
Speaker 4: my whole life.
Speaker 1: I mean, you grew up in LA. So you're a
Speaker 1: Lakers guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well but the Laker fans ain't like that. Bro. No,
Speaker 3: man ain't nothing like that, Nothing like aroracle or oracle.
Speaker 2: Because I remember my first day, my first game, I
Speaker 2: came off the bench, went to the score table, came
Speaker 2: in and like people were standing up clapping, and I
Speaker 2: was like, damn they happy to hear see me. And
Speaker 2: it was packed. So the people were there, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. They were just disappointed that we were losing, right,
Speaker 2: and it was hellaquiet. They ain't really have much to
Speaker 2: cheer about, but it got loud in moments in spurts.
Speaker 3: This shit when we.
Speaker 2: Believe thing came. It was like every person that was
Speaker 2: coming out their house, that was watching on TV was like,
Speaker 2: fuck that, I'm going to the game. Something about to happen,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so people just you
Speaker 2: could feel it in the street. It wasn't like, oh,
Speaker 2: you a celebrity or you know you play. It was
Speaker 2: just like, man, let's go look, oh you want to
Speaker 2: eat boom? Hey, make sure they get you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. It was like the whole city, like everywhere
Speaker 2: we went, they was really like all the way in
Speaker 2: like bodying, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And you guys jump started that because you know, three
Speaker 4: years four years later they started getting you know, the
Speaker 4: other guys. But like, the Bay wasn't always like that
Speaker 4: for basketball.
Speaker 1: Now, I grew up in the Bay.
Speaker 4: You know, it was a Giants Niners town. Yep, this
Speaker 4: is like the moment. I mean back in the day
Speaker 4: that was before my time. They had some you know,
Speaker 4: some good teams, but this was the jump start. Uh
Speaker 4: is this the greatest game of all time?
Speaker 3: Uh? No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We ask every we ask every one. No.
Speaker 4: No, Now what's life looking like right now?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: For me?
Speaker 2: So I'm uh, you know, producing content, you know, and
Speaker 2: then I'm hosting these you know events for like investments,
Speaker 2: financial literacy, just trying to bring athletes, entertainers into like
Speaker 2: into a world of us where we can all win
Speaker 2: on deals, you know what I mean, and we can
Speaker 2: all support each other, whether it's a doc, a story.
Speaker 2: Like there should be an ecosystem and a platform. So
Speaker 2: I've been building slicks, sports lifestyle and culture and big
Speaker 2: business inside the game to be like really like an
Speaker 2: ecosystem capture for us as athletes to be to share ideas,
Speaker 2: share investments, share our story, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: and then own the platform, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you were telling me you're going around and
Speaker 4: you basically throw these what is it a business convention?
Speaker 1: These three four day clinics.
Speaker 4: Everyone goes there, they speak their experience, which I'm a
Speaker 4: super fan of because I've dealt with you know, my
Speaker 4: production company and my merch brand, with my team, We've
Speaker 4: been very entrepreneurial. Yeah, And whenever you see other athletes
Speaker 4: going out and being entrepreneurs, that's awesome because we all
Speaker 4: know the big companies they yea, you know, they.
Speaker 1: Make the deals.
Speaker 3: They make the deals all day.
Speaker 1: But if you some hungry dudes.
Speaker 3: That are relentless totally, I mean, look.
Speaker 4: At the McAfee's of the world, you know, you look
Speaker 4: at the Peyton Mannings and all these guys that are
Speaker 4: stacking freaking.
Speaker 2: Barnes, sacking Matt Barns.
Speaker 3: I mean, like.
Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp, like all these guys.
Speaker 3: Had a knuckleheads, Quinn Richardson and Darius Miles.
Speaker 1: Without a doubt, it's gonna be I mean, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's awesome.
Speaker 2: It's good because you know, we were talking about that
Speaker 2: today or just now it was like media is different now.
Speaker 2: It's like I want to do this more than I
Speaker 2: want to promote myself, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 2: so like you can open up, you can be yourself,
Speaker 2: and then what's better than like athleteses athletes a fan? Right,
Speaker 2: Sometimes you go on these podcasts and things like that
Speaker 2: and it's like you don't really like it's clickbait, right,
Speaker 2: or they try and get you to like chime in
Speaker 2: on some shit that you know, they trying to catch
Speaker 2: you in a moment like hey, what do you think
Speaker 2: about the game. It's like I ain't even really watch
Speaker 2: the game. It was like podcasts over it's like, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like what do you think about this?
Speaker 3: Like, man, you know, I ain't really been tapped in
Speaker 3: Like they hate that.
Speaker 2: But like for a athlete, it's like we can talk
Speaker 2: about teams without watching because there's certain insight.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: With media, they want they're like facts and opinion and
Speaker 2: like a big ass ball of a melting pot of that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: What they want to hear.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they don't always want to hear like
Speaker 4: what the athlete feels, you know, they want to talk
Speaker 4: about the game. Yeah, you know what about and these
Speaker 4: are regular people all day and it's it's a movie
Speaker 4: and it's a show to everyone. It's crazy. But what
Speaker 4: are some things that people don't know about athletes in retirement.
Speaker 2: Well that's a good one that we know more than
Speaker 2: the sport we play, that were just really trying to chill,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. If we win a group
Speaker 2: of people and we're having like dinner and lunch, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like we're just trying to be
Speaker 2: normal citizens.
Speaker 3: I would say that.
Speaker 2: And then also a lot of things they don't know
Speaker 2: about is the athlete entrepreneur side, right, because you're so
Speaker 2: caught up in what we did, what we accomplished, right,
Speaker 2: you never really get an opportunity to know the person,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I think that's it's
Speaker 2: a letdown right when you're retired, because it's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I can talk about sports all day, but like this
Speaker 2: is life after retirement, this is the new version of me.
Speaker 1: Tell us about the podcast we did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a big, big business inside the game. You crushted,
Speaker 2: I mean, the winning attitude, the championships spirit.
Speaker 3: Hey, Ron, don't get me started.
Speaker 2: When you know when it when it comes to the podcast,
Speaker 2: they gotta they gotta see you. I was fired up.
Speaker 2: I was fired up. I drove picked my kids up,
Speaker 2: gave him the lesson. I started training them. They passed out.
Speaker 2: I picked them up, poor water on them. I said, man, hey,
Speaker 2: my dog, he knows how he knows what that championship
Speaker 2: pedigree is. And you know now I got him tied
Speaker 2: up in the cage, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Feed once a day.
Speaker 2: I was Rob's ready to run through a brick wall,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I was just like I
Speaker 2: came back to my team. They was like, yo, are
Speaker 2: you all like steroids or juice? I was like, no, man,
Speaker 2: I'm just fired up. I'm motivated and uh no, all
Speaker 2: jokes aside. Like the business inside the game podcast for
Speaker 2: me is to really understand who you are, what you're building,
Speaker 2: and for everybody else to see that. Right, But how
Speaker 2: did you get there?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: What made you who you are?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And then the thing that makes.
Speaker 2: You who you are also going to make you who
Speaker 2: you are in your second life without a doubt, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And so that's that's the beauty
Speaker 2: of the podcast. And you're a rock star I.
Speaker 3: Mean, everybody in the office.
Speaker 2: Was like, man, let me take a picture. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 2: y'all got it, Like y'all gotta chill man like you were.
Speaker 3: You were. So he was so great to everybody.
Speaker 2: Posting sinemon, can we post the pictures? I was like, yo,
Speaker 2: chill like chill man like and Craig Smith shout out
Speaker 2: to Craig Smith, one of my podcast co hosts of
Speaker 2: Sports Lifestyle and Coaching.
Speaker 3: You know, he was a huge Patriot. You so he was,
Speaker 3: you know, a big dude.
Speaker 2: And he was like he was like, man, I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna say that. I was like, you ain't gonna say nothing.
Speaker 2: I'm about to introduce you, bro, and like just to
Speaker 2: see him like open up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: and like it was almost like a peered appear and
Speaker 2: like a fan, like a real fan, you know, like
Speaker 2: we are real fans of what you do.
Speaker 1: Remember you.
Speaker 4: We'll get into the game James and ship, but dude,
Speaker 4: we remember we played that pick up basketball game.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Adam Adam Lavine House. That's when I first
Speaker 2: met you. I never I didn't know what you look like,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I just see yeah, I
Speaker 2: just see you on the field, like, damn, that's what
Speaker 2: you know. That's that little.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? That mother fucking can go
Speaker 3: like you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, Like you were just magic on the field.
Speaker 2: Then we playing at the house and everybody like playing,
Speaker 2: you know, like this West Side Hollywood basketball, and here's
Speaker 2: this dude flying up the court taking off from the
Speaker 2: free throw line.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the laying the ball up? Rebound is
Speaker 3: still in the boss?
Speaker 1: Hold on?
Speaker 2: Man, Like, who is this dude? Like he gotta be
Speaker 2: you gotta be somebody, right young. I'm like, I'm like, yo.
Speaker 2: He was like, man, Julian Adam and I said, may
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here. Remember I was like, yo,
Speaker 2: you gotta be somebody.
Speaker 3: Dog.
Speaker 1: I get I get it. You you made me do that.
Speaker 4: I saw days on the court, Like I show him
Speaker 4: how I'm not skilled at least get a rebound.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, who is this dude?
Speaker 2: I was like, man, who are you? He was like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm Julian. I said, damn, it makes sense. I see
Speaker 2: why you out there killing on the football field.
Speaker 5: I see how did this game come to be? I
Speaker 5: got to hear about this. It's like some damn Chappelle
Speaker 5: show stuff.
Speaker 4: Josh going to go play basketball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I used to play against Adam in middle
Speaker 2: school Crossroads versus brent Wood.
Speaker 3: So we always been cool. That's the homie. Our kids
Speaker 3: went to school together. So he was like, Yo, you want.
Speaker 2: To come hoop? And I was like, yeah, I'm down
Speaker 2: to go hoop. You know, I need to get out
Speaker 2: and get some exercise. I didn't know you was. They
Speaker 2: didn't tell me. Nobody like you was gonna be there.
Speaker 3: It was like the hommies, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking you like one of the homies that
Speaker 2: I don't know, a producer.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm paying attention to you start.
Speaker 1: You know. It was like.
Speaker 3: I was like, it's a.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker garden every body. Bro, you're literally guarding everybody on
Speaker 2: the court.
Speaker 3: I was drimming.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, let me pass. I'm with him, respect,
Speaker 2: I was passing. Let me get out of his way. Bro,
Speaker 2: this this dude is this dude is a Tasmanian devil
Speaker 2: out here.
Speaker 3: Well, you took off from the free throw line and
Speaker 3: was just I was like, yo, one, what is he doing?
Speaker 3: How did he do that?
Speaker 2: And then who are you? Like you you must do
Speaker 2: something because you're not built like these dudes.
Speaker 3: Trainer. He was like, bro, I'm Julian Lleman.
Speaker 5: I said, we gotta throw this one up there for you.
Speaker 3: Okay, what side? Okay? What side? Man?
Speaker 1: That was my freshman year.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, you you you trying to get to
Speaker 2: the cup and you ain't got no socks on?
Speaker 3: Go back?
Speaker 1: Came in.
Speaker 2: Look the other dude ain't got up low custs. We
Speaker 2: got to bring the low custs back.
Speaker 1: You didn't see no sock. You used to put them
Speaker 1: up and stuff them up increase. I would.
Speaker 2: I would roll mine themn like, roll them all the
Speaker 2: way inside the shoe and then put another socker on
Speaker 2: it so it wouldn't roll up.
Speaker 4: How much to growing up in La shape your relationship
Speaker 4: with the business world and the entertainment industry a lot?
Speaker 3: Uh? You know, I'm from South Central.
Speaker 2: I got a scholarship to go to this private school
Speaker 2: called Crossroads and.
Speaker 1: Better play soccer there.
Speaker 2: There's a very fair article that came out, you know
Speaker 2: a while ago, like Crossroads is Hollywood High. But for me,
Speaker 2: it was like an eye opening experience coming from you know,
Speaker 2: the trenches to going to like.
Speaker 3: Disneyland or going to Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Do you mean the trenches? So you know, I'm from
Speaker 2: South Central. So it's like gangs, drugs, no opportunity, uh,
Speaker 2: invisible fences and it is you get anxiety walking to
Speaker 2: the market to go buy groceries. So you confine by
Speaker 2: your neighborhood, by your gang, by the people in your neighborhood,
Speaker 2: you don't get a chance to get out. So for me,
Speaker 2: I got a chance to get out and see something
Speaker 2: and see La like I never seen La before, Like
Speaker 2: a kid in my neighborhood would never see La.
Speaker 3: So then you know, kind of going a crossroads that.
Speaker 2: Shit just exposed me to like, oh, he's a producer,
Speaker 2: my guy, my dad's a cameraman, my dad does the marketing.
Speaker 2: Sounds like whoa, there's a there's a bigger world to
Speaker 2: just the movies that I like. And these people are
Speaker 2: the lawyers and the producers and you know, the actors
Speaker 2: and actresses and so for that, like I really became interested.
Speaker 2: And I start realizing that like I am living a
Speaker 2: movie and I'm living in the movie in this story,
Speaker 2: that I'm able to.
Speaker 3: See all these things.
Speaker 2: And so I was just like going to set it's
Speaker 2: going to premierees, just kind of soaking it up as
Speaker 2: a kid, like you want to go hell yeah, go
Speaker 2: hell yeah, Mike. I definitely don't want to go back home,
Speaker 2: so anything I can do to get away.
Speaker 3: And it just opened my mind.
Speaker 2: Up to the things that would have made me confined
Speaker 2: and ignorant had I not been able to get out.
Speaker 3: You know, the environment that I.
Speaker 1: Was in experience.
Speaker 4: That's what people lack when they're they have judgment totally.
Speaker 4: They never experienced a certain situation, a certain culture, certain neighborhood,
Speaker 4: and that's why you get a lot of narrow minded
Speaker 4: people totally. So that I mean, that's that's a crazy story.
Speaker 3: And that's what Crossroads was. It was like I came in.
Speaker 2: Only knowing about being black, being hood, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, going to church. There's you know, I was
Speaker 2: limited in what I knew, and I was definitely limited
Speaker 2: as far as like knowing white people, knowing that there
Speaker 2: were white people, there were Jewish people, they're European, there
Speaker 2: were forms of white people that there were different Asian people,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And all of this start
Speaker 2: to open my mind and be like, you know, see
Speaker 2: my homeboy, and be like just assume you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And now they're like, no, we Korean, this
Speaker 2: is how this is our culture. I'm like, oh, it's
Speaker 2: not all the same place, and they're like no. Right,
Speaker 2: So ignorance can become an opportunity, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: to kind of learn and understand and grow to start
Speaker 2: and people accept that, right, And so Crossroads was kind
Speaker 2: of like it was.
Speaker 3: They didn't look at it.
Speaker 2: As like like you don't look at a dumb question.
Speaker 3: You don't look at ignorance. You look at is.
Speaker 2: You look at it as an opportunity to inform and
Speaker 2: educate and give you that experience.
Speaker 1: There's a premium on curiosity, absolutely.
Speaker 3: I think that's you know that.
Speaker 2: But I would say for athletes, that's our guide in life,
Speaker 2: curiosity like can we get there? Like what does it
Speaker 2: look like? Like you paint this world to get to them? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you paint this world to get it get to the NFL,
Speaker 2: and it's like whatever the world.
Speaker 3: You paint it to get there?
Speaker 2: Right now, When you get there, you gotta go and
Speaker 2: like figure out what that world you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean? Well, then then the canvas turns
Speaker 3: blank again, yep, And then you get to go paint
Speaker 3: more and you're doing business, commit business inside the game,
Speaker 3: business inside of the game. That's your new canvas.
Speaker 1: You already.
Speaker 4: And what people don't realize, you don't just get touched
Speaker 4: by God and you get to go to the NBA
Speaker 4: or the NFL, like there is a little touchness of God,
Speaker 4: but there is a lot of things that you have
Speaker 4: to overcome and you have to go through and you
Speaker 4: have to achieve to get to that level. And and
Speaker 4: the baddest dudes from our sports that go on after
Speaker 4: sports and do what they do to be successful, the
Speaker 4: Magic Johnson's and all of them, like those guys that
Speaker 4: are probably using the exact same methods that they used
Speaker 4: to get to where they were in basketball. And it's
Speaker 4: the the more guys that probably will learn that at
Speaker 4: your conventions and your your your festivals, the more you're
Speaker 4: gonna have of that, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 4: like you're gonna you're gonna kill it because I mean,
Speaker 4: you're just fucking You're pretty smart, dude.
Speaker 1: I feel so much smarter anytime around.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be you have me ready to run
Speaker 3: through a brick wall.
Speaker 2: But you know, as it's can we get people to
Speaker 2: understand and be motivated and confident to know what their DNA,
Speaker 2: what is your why? And if you can apply your
Speaker 2: why you know to something that you know you can
Speaker 2: bring value to, then at that point, like that should
Speaker 2: be what's fulfilling he the money, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: It's it's the journey.
Speaker 3: Interesting, Yeah, it's it's being in it.
Speaker 2: It's being in it, being a part of something that
Speaker 2: is bigger than yourself, but being a major contributor to it.
Speaker 4: Right, talking about being a part of something huge. You're
Speaker 4: part of u c l A, which is probably one
Speaker 4: of the most storied fringe organizations in basketball. Like what
Speaker 4: was the deciding process of going to u c l A.
Speaker 4: I mean, is it because you were in LA or
Speaker 4: is it.
Speaker 2: Just well, I think for UCLA, you know, it is
Speaker 2: the best university in the world. And I say that
Speaker 2: because we're always on the forefront and the cutting edge
Speaker 2: of like thinking about the world and the wholestic athletes.
Speaker 2: So when you go back to Koreem John Wooden, Bill Walton.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You know, the Black Panther movement, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You know, so many historical things have happened, you know,
Speaker 2: at UCLA. And when you look at Bill Walton protesting
Speaker 2: during the whole Woodstock right, for me, I was I
Speaker 2: am one of them, more so than I am a
Speaker 2: duke guy, more so than I am home at Kansas
Speaker 2: guy right. And so it was like, I'm definitely a
Speaker 2: Ucla Brewing. I'm definitely want to be cut from the
Speaker 2: same cloth of great players, but also players who understood
Speaker 2: their voice, their value and Obannon right, the whole reason
Speaker 2: for Nil right, and so to be able to be
Speaker 2: a a seed or a leaf on that tree. A
Speaker 2: part of this is a lot of learning, right, and
Speaker 2: it's also a lot of wisdom and heritage that come
Speaker 2: with it. And so I want the responsibility too if
Speaker 2: I go on to play, where do I want to
Speaker 2: be and what type of people do I want to
Speaker 2: be around? And what badge do I want to use
Speaker 2: to represent me? And that was your c LA hell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's probably like the most insightful thought from
Speaker 4: anyone I've asked why they went to Usually it's like, yo,
Speaker 4: they gave me the biggest bag.
Speaker 3: I was. I was good though I was in LA.
Speaker 3: So I was good, you.
Speaker 6: Said, Jules has got you to run through like a brick.
Speaker 3: Wall.
Speaker 6: I feel like you're gonna get me to run into a.
Speaker 5: Library speaking of knowledge in UCLA. I know this was
Speaker 5: the Steve Lavner, but you have any good John Wooden
Speaker 5: stories and getting to meet him on campus.
Speaker 3: Ever, John wooden't was He was like Yoda.
Speaker 2: I had breakfast with John Wooden in the valley at
Speaker 2: his old breakfast spot, and he was a coach. He
Speaker 2: was like he was one of us, and he was
Speaker 2: just personality. We talked about who, we talked about the game.
Speaker 2: He liked the players, he didn't like why he didn't
Speaker 2: like him, you know what I mean. He was he
Speaker 2: had this polarizing or in pedigree. But when you met him,
Speaker 2: he was so present and he was just like the
Speaker 2: most down to earth right and he was just like
Speaker 2: the coach, the teacher, Like you felt like you understood
Speaker 2: why he.
Speaker 3: Was so successful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was so humble and he could And
Speaker 2: I remember I took like his book pledge. I had
Speaker 2: to raise my hand take his pledge, you know. But
Speaker 2: it was all based on, you know, the pyramid of success,
Speaker 2: the pillars of education, the pillars of preparation, preparedness that
Speaker 2: leads to success, right, and just being at that breakfast.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 2: He was very funny, he was very charismatic, and he
Speaker 2: was a coach, so he wasn't holding.
Speaker 3: Back, you know what. It was like one of those
Speaker 3: it was like whoa, like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1: Take it out.
Speaker 4: Yeah he probably touched you too, man, Now did you show.
Speaker 1: Up ten minutes early?
Speaker 3: I did? Yeah, you have to do that right. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like you get a chance to be John Wooden.
Speaker 2: You're just sitting in the parking lot on your phone,
Speaker 2: like waiting for the person that invited you to like
Speaker 2: show up so you can make sure.
Speaker 3: You walk in right.
Speaker 2: But just an amazing or and something that it's like
Speaker 2: something it's like, you know, you want to be like
Speaker 2: this as a coach, as a parent, as a boss,
Speaker 2: as just a leader.
Speaker 4: Right, very accountable at any time. I mean I've been
Speaker 4: in probably fifteen sixteen different locker rooms. There's always a
Speaker 4: John Winden quote somewhere, and that he'll live forever because
Speaker 4: of that, because of the man he was and how
Speaker 4: he lived and the coach that he was. But you know,
Speaker 4: to hear that he was a great human.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He didn't like tattoos though, Yeah, I mean he sweated
Speaker 2: me about the tattoos, like you got tattoos.
Speaker 3: I was at the time. I didn't have this.
Speaker 2: I was like, uh yeah, I got one on my chest,
Speaker 2: on my back. I was like, this is my grandmother name,
Speaker 2: you know I got. He was not feeling the tattoo
Speaker 2: Aaron tattoo era athlete. He you know, and that's our culture,
Speaker 2: like everybody has tattoos.
Speaker 1: So I bet you would have changed though if he was,
Speaker 1: because he.
Speaker 2: Would have had to wind to He.
Speaker 5: Was even making Bill Walton get a haircut like here
Speaker 5: over the years. He didn't even like that.
Speaker 3: I heard.
Speaker 1: I heard that too.
Speaker 3: Oh we used to have to save our facial hair.
Speaker 3: U c l A did you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Before every game coach Michael Holten shout out to coach
Speaker 2: Michael Holt and he come home.
Speaker 3: He be like, hey, Julie, let you see me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, And like, you know, dudes
Speaker 2: didn't really know how to save. So I'm like, coach,
Speaker 2: look and be like, yo, you got you know, you
Speaker 2: got a little peace, you got a little piece. Hey, dude,
Speaker 2: you have to be you have to be booty face.
Speaker 2: They're not to bury you gotta be booty and that
Speaker 2: face gotta be booty face, baby, booty face smooth, No.
Speaker 3: No, Jack.
Speaker 4: I want you to go back and see if we
Speaker 4: can get in those eras.
Speaker 1: If we get like a stat on anyone that had
Speaker 1: like a.
Speaker 4: Toilet paper, a lot of kids on a shade, they're
Speaker 4: gonna cut themselves. We'll be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 4: Let's uh segue to growing up in LA.
Speaker 1: You know I loved White.
Speaker 4: Man Can't Jump, And the premise of that movie is
Speaker 4: all the runs around the city. And we all know
Speaker 4: about Rutger Park in New York. Now, what's the basketball
Speaker 4: scene in LA? And like the best basketball there is,
Speaker 4: where are those going down at?
Speaker 2: There is none only at u C LA in the
Speaker 2: summer with the pros.
Speaker 1: What about in the eighties and nineties and then you
Speaker 1: have leagues?
Speaker 2: So LA is different than New York. We don't play outside,
Speaker 2: which is crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which we can all year round.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so a mat and a bunch of guys
Speaker 3: gathering out of park like.
Speaker 2: New York in LA with gang culture, that's why we
Speaker 2: don't play That's why we don't play outside.
Speaker 3: That's why we don't play outside.
Speaker 2: But basketball is lifestyle in LA. So it's different because
Speaker 2: even if you don't hoop. You dress like a hooper
Speaker 2: or you go to hoop games. So we play organized.
Speaker 2: You got the Real Run, you got the Drew League,
Speaker 2: you got the Say No Classic, you got AU. So
Speaker 2: everybody kind of play indoors. And so the best basketball
Speaker 2: is really like what team you can put together on
Speaker 2: the AAU side, what's the best.
Speaker 3: Team you can put together? And the Jew or the
Speaker 3: real Run.
Speaker 2: Like people the mistake is people think, like, you know,
Speaker 2: since white man can't jump, it's like, oh, yeah, the
Speaker 2: Runs are at Venice Beach. Just like no, that's just
Speaker 2: a certain type of people, you know, the type of people.
Speaker 2: But like real hoopers don't play outside in l A.
Speaker 2: Like we we don't play street ball. When you were
Speaker 2: a kid too, well, you're a kid, you play outside
Speaker 2: on the on the court, but it's always indoor. You
Speaker 2: always trying to get on the team at the y.
Speaker 2: Like we got the most parks gyms, you know, we
Speaker 2: got a ton of gyms in parks, and so it
Speaker 2: was always like park leagues.
Speaker 3: Uh, it didn't happen. Really.
Speaker 2: LA is still not a street basketball culture. But I
Speaker 2: because of that, I always wanted to play street basketball.
Speaker 2: When I got to the league, I was the first
Speaker 2: person from l A.
Speaker 3: To go play in the Rutger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I remember that.
Speaker 3: You just showed up by myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like what is that, dude?
Speaker 2: That was like people know it's like a player. It's
Speaker 2: like it's like a playoff game intensity but in the streets.
Speaker 5: Hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like, man, you can make like I
Speaker 2: can make you can like you know, I can make
Speaker 2: a name for myself. And then it was also some
Speaker 2: something like anybody could make a name if you had games.
Speaker 2: So it didn't matter what leads you plan, how what
Speaker 2: high level. All these were like real hoopers, guys who
Speaker 2: could have made it, didn't make it, guys who shouldn't
Speaker 2: make it and fell on hard times.
Speaker 3: But like the the Rucker was like, go claim your
Speaker 3: like you want to claim a name, Go show us
Speaker 3: what you can do in the Mecca.
Speaker 2: Back you win as a pro. I went my second
Speaker 2: year in the pros.
Speaker 3: Now that ad do the.
Speaker 4: Intensity goes up even higher because you're in the league. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just like anytime you go to a gym or something,
Speaker 4: everyone's sizing you up.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they go bull yo ass and and rucker
Speaker 2: part until you get them. No, they bullo ass in
Speaker 2: the heartbeat. H you come down to court, right, So
Speaker 2: soon as you get in the game, they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: they go crazy, right because it's like a pro coming
Speaker 2: to the hood, Like this is a real hood.
Speaker 3: Soon as you get the ball, bro, so you take
Speaker 3: a jobble, they go all the way till you coming
Speaker 3: out corner go.
Speaker 2: And if you pass it, they'd be like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: get him off the court, you know. So like you
Speaker 2: coming down, you hear the whole crawler. Oh, you gotta
Speaker 2: do something if you pass that ball. Oh, they gonna
Speaker 2: talk about your ass till the next time you get it.
Speaker 2: Don't let it be a consistent thing where you out
Speaker 2: there like trying to play basketball, pick and cut and patan.
Speaker 2: Now we want to see something from you, buddy.
Speaker 1: We all.
Speaker 2: They did not come to see me anyway, But now
Speaker 2: that you showed up, bro, it's gotta go down. You
Speaker 2: better show us something.
Speaker 3: Are we gonna call you sorry and every kind of
Speaker 3: name and get your ass up out of here.
Speaker 4: You see that movie Hustle with Adam Sandler. I saw yeah,
Speaker 4: because isn't that what that guy was? He was like
Speaker 4: a hustler and the Spanish dude that's a good ass movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I can't remember. We need a good
Speaker 3: new We need a new basketball.
Speaker 1: Didn't even basketball like a street basketball movie.
Speaker 3: We did.
Speaker 1: Probably gotta go au because there's no street basket.
Speaker 2: We definitely need a basketball movie.
Speaker 5: No offense to Blake. But that White Man Can't Jump remakers.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I hate they made White Man came It was.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't a basket. I just don't like different. Bro,
Speaker 3: do not remake classic.
Speaker 2: That movie could have been called Ball Till We Fall
Speaker 2: and it would have been It would have been better
Speaker 2: for the movie than calling it white Man Can't Jump.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. It was a good movie. You know,
Speaker 2: I thought Jack Harlow did his thing. The other dude
Speaker 2: did his thing, you know, but just call it something else.
Speaker 1: What about Tom Gun two?
Speaker 3: Was that good?
Speaker 2: That's Tom Cruise, Bro consistent, that's a franchise.
Speaker 1: He just made it a franchise.
Speaker 2: He did, Yeah, I mean, I mean, but that's Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2: He like if Woody Harrelson came in here, if you
Speaker 2: and Wesley Snipes had kids, I mean right, and their
Speaker 2: kids grew up like that's the storyline.
Speaker 1: Played like an a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they playing au one got hurt, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, he start gambling.
Speaker 3: He come back.
Speaker 2: The other dude live in the suburbs. He like, you know,
Speaker 2: and now you got a Woody, you got a Wesley.
Speaker 3: They meet up, they ain't no good, but they make
Speaker 3: it to the semi finals and something like that. Is
Speaker 3: that the movie.
Speaker 5: No, I don't even add to this.
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I remember white man can't jump, I mean doesn't. But
Speaker 2: then like you make a white man can't jump too,
Speaker 2: and white dudes can really jump and dump. Now it's
Speaker 2: like back in the day it was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: white man can't jump was a myth. Now it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's demystified.
Speaker 3: Is that how you say it?
Speaker 1: Is that for it?
Speaker 2: Man, you got some you got some dudes that can
Speaker 2: get up there.
Speaker 3: Like every white dude can dump. So the whole movie
Speaker 3: was that this white dude can dunk, but he can hoop. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but every white dude, damn the are you know con dunt?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: I think it was motivational for that generation of white
Speaker 2: guys to be like, oh, white man can't jump, let
Speaker 2: us go get the strength shoes and like.
Speaker 3: It was the whole culture of.
Speaker 2: Jumping white man, you know what I mean, and dunking
Speaker 2: white man and now a white man can jump.
Speaker 3: Now, white man can jump.
Speaker 1: That maybe that should have been a white man can jump,
Speaker 1: white man can jump? Now?
Speaker 5: What else?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Who did you idolize when you were a kid and
Speaker 1: the that you like mimicked your game after? Or was
Speaker 1: there anyone or was everybody?
Speaker 2: It was a collection? It was you know as a kid,
Speaker 2: it was Magic Isaiah uh shames Worthy, and it was
Speaker 2: uh Tim Hardaway, Jamal Mashburn when he was in college.
Speaker 2: Then it was Nick van Exel when he got to
Speaker 2: the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Uh Rod Strickland. Uh Rod Strickland was another one. And
Speaker 3: who else? Man, I'm missing somebody that's gonna kill me too.
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan's not Michael too went patter of my game?
Speaker 2: Hey, dude, that was a failed at tip if you
Speaker 2: if you say, if I saw Michael Jordan and me,
Speaker 2: that would have been a failed at Tim I was.
Speaker 2: I was a little du Muggy Bogues was another. Muggsy
Speaker 2: was another one. Love Stockton, you know, and like Magic
Speaker 2: was Magic was the dude who brought you know, all
Speaker 2: the attention because you know, being in l A. You
Speaker 2: only got k cow. So I'm watching, you know, all
Speaker 2: the games, Yeah, I'm watching all the games. But like
Speaker 2: I would say, those.
Speaker 3: Were the dudes that I really like.
Speaker 2: Nick van Exell was like that dude, like he was
Speaker 2: part of his game.
Speaker 3: He had the bop. What's theo oh oh, where are
Speaker 3: you going?
Speaker 2: It's like it's like Rapt's It's like, you know, like
Speaker 2: the way uh Nick van Exel move was away jay
Speaker 2: z rat like skipping over beats, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like you can't Like his pace is crazy. You can
Speaker 2: stop on the dime, he can go past you stop,
Speaker 2: jump off this leg, jump off that leg, and like
Speaker 2: all doing it with the ball.
Speaker 3: So like the bop is like oh yeah, oh you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like you don't.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't speed or slow to bop now like you
Speaker 2: pretty much at the guard's mercy. So like Nick van
Speaker 2: Exel had like that bop. Yeah, Steve Smith, Smitty, that's
Speaker 2: my dog he had. I mean, you got a signature move.
Speaker 2: It's Smitty, you know.
Speaker 4: It's it's so crazy that bop that you're talking about.
Speaker 4: It's transitioned a lot into football and route running at
Speaker 4: the top of routes. Guys that bop, you know, it's
Speaker 4: like almost like a crossover. Yes, guys are trying to
Speaker 4: cross over because you got to slow yourself down because
Speaker 4: without the ball.
Speaker 1: You try to go too fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: But if you if you play like you have the
Speaker 1: ball in your hand, the ball slows you down a
Speaker 1: little unless you're elite. You guys are all elite, so
Speaker 1: you guys can go as fastating.
Speaker 2: But I gotta say, Alan Iverson, I was gonna get
Speaker 2: Starberry for sure. Alan step Stepan Marlberry called me and
Speaker 2: told me I needed to come out and go to
Speaker 2: the draft. He was like, Bro, if you have any doubt,
Speaker 2: I'm letting you know you need to be here. And
Speaker 2: you know now is the time for you.
Speaker 3: Third overall pick.
Speaker 4: And I think so we gotta we gotta thank Starberry, Starberry, Starberry.
Speaker 4: This is a segment where we go back in time
Speaker 4: to win the game took place. This game took place
Speaker 4: May third, two thousand and seven. We talk about pop
Speaker 4: culture number one movie with Spider Man three you see it?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 1: Which one was this one?
Speaker 3: With the.
Speaker 1: Together in my head?
Speaker 6: Let me feels like every time we do an episode
Speaker 6: of the Spider Man.
Speaker 3: Was that the one with the was that was Ven
Speaker 3: That was tell McGuire.
Speaker 1: He went bad, right, yeah, yeah, he went bad.
Speaker 5: And Sandman was in this one. Sand Dude was in
Speaker 5: the third one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, this was after the Green Goblin. Goblin was first.
Speaker 6: The first one was the Octopus.
Speaker 4: Well, the number one song was Girlfriend by Avra Levigne
Speaker 4: or Levine Avril Levine.
Speaker 1: I remember a little skater chick. Yeah, wasn't there like
Speaker 1: a wasn't there a well she is? Isn't she skater chick?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, shet the bar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't there a rumor that she died? Is that
Speaker 1: another chick?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: She like she was Dayton Tiger or some sh it
Speaker 2: like that. I don't know, man, I don't know who
Speaker 2: to fuck somebody. I apologize. I did not mean to
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 4: Queen Elizabeth comes to America to attend the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 3: Fire You ever been to the Kentucky Derby? I have?
Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby's pretty.
Speaker 2: Fun and Kentucky Derby was a blast. Sephal winning rain
Speaker 2: and you gotta get out, and you know, you be
Speaker 2: all dressed up.
Speaker 4: You got it always seems like it rained sometimes and
Speaker 4: a couple, and it was like you had to battle
Speaker 4: the rain.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: I got Kentucky.
Speaker 3: I got so drunk. Did you go to that party
Speaker 3: the night before with barn Stable? Oh my god, Bro,
Speaker 3: I did not really know what a meant jew. I'm
Speaker 3: not like a drinker drinker, so I'm like, man, these
Speaker 3: motherfucker is delicious.
Speaker 2: Hey, bro? That getting up that next day for the derby.
Speaker 2: Tayshawn Prince, he played for Kentucky, so I went with him.
Speaker 2: He was like, Bro, you all right? I was like ship?
Speaker 1: Like what was in that?
Speaker 2: I thought it was like lemonade, you know, like an
Speaker 2: Arnold like a little little light Arnold Palmer. That ship
Speaker 2: was delicious. I paid for it, though, I definitely paid
Speaker 2: for it. Shout out to tay Tayshawn Prince, one of
Speaker 2: my best friends ever has.
Speaker 3: Always been there.
Speaker 1: Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Lose my wallet, Like, bro, lost your wallet? You know
Speaker 3: what I mean? John? At the Kentucky Derby. Ay, Bro here,
Speaker 3: take this, get yourself right, come on, we gotta go.
Speaker 5: That's a real friend.
Speaker 3: Put my tie on for the prom. He Hey, man,
Speaker 3: you're tie crooking. Let me get you right. Shout out
Speaker 3: to Tayshaun Prince.
Speaker 1: Sean Prince was like an alien and left.
Speaker 3: Yeah that shot from Compton.
Speaker 6: Yeah, is he from Compton?
Speaker 4: From there's a lot of ballers from here. See I'm
Speaker 4: big here. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: Uh No Country from Men Premiere can. That was a
Speaker 1: great movie.
Speaker 5: Fire Alzheimer.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that the gun?
Speaker 3: Yeah, cattle prime, Yeah, yeah, that was sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Blades of glory, disturb your wild hogs were all popping
Speaker 4: blades of glory.
Speaker 3: That's the That was the skating remember the skating ship.
Speaker 1: Shawn Michael Michael, I am figure skating.
Speaker 2: Remember he was running at the end and he was
Speaker 2: like skating and it was taken forever to get there.
Speaker 3: It was for disturb you. That was my boy silent. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then wild Hogs was with U.
Speaker 1: That was that was the dude.
Speaker 3: Home Improvement. My guy was guy from uh no no no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no no no, the dude that from Shameless.
Speaker 2: That when they had the uh the they was like
Speaker 2: middle aged man doing cross country biking and.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that said was funny. I got that was
Speaker 3: a good one.
Speaker 5: Wild Hogs Loki banger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wild Hogs was killing went.
Speaker 1: John Travolta shout out was in that Barker retired. Damn
Speaker 1: from The Prices right.
Speaker 4: That was my show to anytime you got to miss school,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, like you be playing sick with your
Speaker 4: mom and that stuff.
Speaker 1: If you got to see Prices, right, that means.
Speaker 2: Everything and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything was good.
Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 2: I always thought, you know, my family was one of
Speaker 2: them families that you know when people come over and
Speaker 2: watch The Prices right, like some of our cousins and
Speaker 2: aunties would go stand in line just so they can
Speaker 2: try and be on the show. Never happened, none, never happened.
Speaker 2: Never happened. You know, you're a kid, like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be on Prices right, Like, no, we ain't.
Speaker 2: They didn't stay like what happened?
Speaker 1: Man? Like, man, that line was too long?
Speaker 6: What's I had?
Speaker 3: Family feud for sure?
Speaker 1: I used to like with Steve Harvey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also with Richard. With Richard the old old
Speaker 2: one man used to kiss everybody. I don't remember that
Speaker 2: guy forgot Richardson, Richard Dawson Richardson, Yeah, come on.
Speaker 3: Man, family feud for real.
Speaker 2: I wrote a movie based on the family feud. I
Speaker 2: came up with a whole movie based on the family feud.
Speaker 2: Nothing never happened.
Speaker 3: I still got it. I got it, Like figure it out.
Speaker 4: Sports World, Sports World, NBA champions this year, san Antonio
Speaker 4: Dirk was an MVP. Old Dirk and Antonio. Look they're
Speaker 4: kind of like us boring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, we.
Speaker 2: Beat we beat Dallas, and Dallas was san Antonio's kryptonite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were. Kobe led the league in scoring.
Speaker 4: You got any Kobe stories where we have We always
Speaker 4: have basketball dudes that always give us a Kobe story.
Speaker 1: Man, tons Uh, give us a good one that no
Speaker 1: one's heard.
Speaker 2: What's the good one? I mean, when I first met Kobe,
Speaker 2: what happened? I knew he was different. So we go
Speaker 2: to Kobe's house to at the house hanging out, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like, oh, this is my room
Speaker 2: room big as this, and like on this side of
Speaker 2: the wall, it's just like tapes like CD like DVD's tapes, tapes.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, bro, what's what's all this? I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 3: you ever want to hang out? He was like ah nah.
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, you know, like go out, like
Speaker 3: you know, like whatever you need, you know, go to movies,
Speaker 3: get out. He was like nah. I was like, what
Speaker 3: do you be doing. He was like, man, sitting here
Speaker 3: watching take I said, Man, you okay.
Speaker 1: Bro, eighteen nineteen years old?
Speaker 3: What the hell? I'm like, Yo, what the hell is
Speaker 3: wrong with tapes?
Speaker 2: Game film, game film of who his whos? Bro?
Speaker 3: It's just it's like a library and shit, I'm like,
Speaker 3: how did he get all this? He my age? Bro?
Speaker 2: He is sitting there. He like, man, this was what
Speaker 2: I do. And I was like, okay, Bro, you like
Speaker 2: held the different huh.
Speaker 6: He was like yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, all right, I'm gonna hang out.
Speaker 3: You gotta get you know, anytime, bro An's time you
Speaker 3: want to hang I'm good.
Speaker 2: He was like, I'm be doing this. And at that
Speaker 2: point I knew, like I think it was like his
Speaker 2: second year with the Lakers. Yeah, it was the second
Speaker 2: year with the Lakers. And I was just like, man,
Speaker 2: this dude is gonna be like he's that guy. Yeah
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, he's that guy, he's mentality,
Speaker 2: he's not interested in any of that. And then I
Speaker 2: do got a funny story.
Speaker 3: So we played. I was at UCLA. I heard money we're.
Speaker 2: Practicing and now I can't practice. So UCLA team is practicing.
Speaker 2: It's the lockout year, about eight thirty, Kobe walks in
Speaker 2: with his trainer and so, you know, everybody on the
Speaker 2: team like, oh shit, you know, like it's Kobe, it's
Speaker 2: a lock I was like, oh, you probably got the
Speaker 2: gym for after our practice to like work out, and
Speaker 2: he came early, so he was like, you know, so
Speaker 2: the practice walk through, very respectful, went on the side
Speaker 2: and was just like shooting.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, dude, Kobe over there. So I
Speaker 3: just like start.
Speaker 2: Making my way over to the side and then I'm like, coach,
Speaker 2: can you know, let me rebound for hi. Ain't nobody
Speaker 2: there to refound. So he shooting rebounding for him? You know,
Speaker 2: he just he ain't even really doing nothing. He's just like,
Speaker 2: you know, we're just talking, man passing the ball and
Speaker 2: I just do the fake close out and about the
Speaker 2: fourth time.
Speaker 3: Throwing the ball, and it's like, bro, we are in
Speaker 3: a full.
Speaker 2: On one on one game.
Speaker 3: He was in a one on one game. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: I gotta get this one on one thing.
Speaker 2: When I look up, the whole U c l A
Speaker 2: team stopped and they watching me in Coby play one
Speaker 2: on one, and I was like, man, you know, he
Speaker 2: beat me hurt.
Speaker 3: You're hurt. Yeah, I'm hurt.
Speaker 2: That's the only And we used to argue all the
Speaker 2: time we've seen each Every time we see each other,
Speaker 2: I'll be like, Bro, you know you can't beat me
Speaker 2: one on one.
Speaker 3: He's like, Bro, already beat you. He's like, bro, already
Speaker 3: beat you.
Speaker 2: I was like, come on, dog, like you know I
Speaker 2: was hurt.
Speaker 3: You know I wasn't beat you. I was like, all right.
Speaker 2: And so we were supposed to the year I got
Speaker 2: hurt in my career ended. We had dinner in New
Speaker 2: York before, like during the insanity. I was like, hey, bro,
Speaker 2: Jeremy Len gonna bust you'll lass. I'm telling you, we'll
Speaker 2: send that dinner. He was like, come on, y'all chill.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, bro, I'm telling you, like
Speaker 2: he on the road, do not do not let this
Speaker 2: dude bust your ass because I'm telling you everybody is
Speaker 2: coming in here getting their head cracked. Come on, bead,
Speaker 2: I said, all right, dude. And so we made a
Speaker 2: bet that after the season we're gonna rematch the one
Speaker 2: on one game, and if he beat me, I came
Speaker 2: to the Lakers, you know what I mean, and then
Speaker 2: I was like, well, if.
Speaker 3: I beat you, you know what do I get? He
Speaker 3: was like, man, I come speak at your basketball now.
Speaker 2: And then when I thought about it, I was like, well,
Speaker 2: you know it is Kobe, Like my whole career is
Speaker 2: projecting on him. Beat me, and like if I beat him,
Speaker 2: He's gonna go speak at my basketball camp.
Speaker 1: Like Jack can break down this, Let's get into these games.
Speaker 5: Break down these teams real quick. First off, the MAVs
Speaker 5: coming off a season where they lost in the finals.
Speaker 5: This is when they lost to the Shack d Wade
Speaker 5: iteration of the Heat. There was some some Tim Donaghee
Speaker 5: was in that that series. I don't know, we're not
Speaker 5: gonna get all into that.
Speaker 1: But you know, those dudes are game. Those those dudes
Speaker 1: are sucking up the games. The refs.
Speaker 2: Always fun with the refs. I always tell him that
Speaker 2: I used to always tell them they was cheating, but.
Speaker 3: Like I didn't, you know what I mean, I just
Speaker 3: to puss them off.
Speaker 1: That's what every athlete does.
Speaker 5: You're calling the game that we got money on this,
Speaker 5: and then like and then a guy like Tim he
Speaker 5: gives credo to that because like there is the one guy.
Speaker 5: So it's sort of true.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's like, oh, cheating, you know, cheating ass
Speaker 2: and then it's like you know that's what you say
Speaker 2: to a rap and when you really want to teg.
Speaker 3: But to him, he was like, man, so what you know?
Speaker 3: I was kind of like his a prouh and these
Speaker 3: were Yeah.
Speaker 5: He was like all right, yeah, this was the year
Speaker 5: Dirk Dirk one m v P as we mentioned earlier. Uh,
Speaker 5: some other dudes on this era MAVs Jet Jason the Jet, Terry, Devin,
Speaker 5: George j J. Brea breat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't play that much, but you can tell
Speaker 3: that he was going to be really good and then
Speaker 3: so he show up. He so he can't.
Speaker 2: He came to life.
Speaker 3: The next two years he started balling.
Speaker 1: He was different. Then what something some he wasn't what
Speaker 1: do he played for what five years?
Speaker 3: For you? No, he had had but he was I.
Speaker 4: Remember when they were subbing him in, when he was
Speaker 4: coming off the bench, You're like, this dude is about
Speaker 4: to be something crazy, but.
Speaker 1: He means just kind of like yeah, it just kind
Speaker 1: of I think the team didn't.
Speaker 3: He just got when it when the.
Speaker 2: Team start not doing good and it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's hard to keep. I don't know, I don't really
Speaker 2: know what happened to J but I like his game.
Speaker 2: I liked his game because he was.
Speaker 3: He was every time we played, you know, he was.
Speaker 2: I get to the gym at like four four point
Speaker 2: thirty eight being there getting his getting his workout because
Speaker 2: I like he worked his ass.
Speaker 5: Northeastern guy, Northeastern Love that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, they.
Speaker 5: Signed re signed the Jet prior to this year, which
Speaker 5: was huge. Derk average twenty four point six eight rebounds
Speaker 5: a game that was his MVP year and uh, to
Speaker 5: put it in context, they wouldn't win the finals till
Speaker 5: twenty ten to twenty eleven. We had Mark Cuban on
Speaker 5: to talk about that one. So before that era MAVs, we.
Speaker 1: Had Mark Cuban on the show. Yeah, yeah, Mark Cuban stories.
Speaker 3: Us with him.
Speaker 1: Ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark Cuban is hell like cool.
Speaker 3: He is. Mark Cuban is the guy.
Speaker 2: When he was young, when he was young in the
Speaker 2: league as an owner, you know, and you see him
Speaker 2: out and about. He was never obnoxious, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. He was never uh felt that he was
Speaker 2: bigger than you, right, and he was just like a
Speaker 2: like he's just always been like a cool dude you
Speaker 2: can talk to, don't mind giving you advice, don't mind
Speaker 2: you know, paying for your dinner, which they couldn't at
Speaker 2: that time. But at the same time, like he was
Speaker 2: just like accessible, very accessible and very real. And then
Speaker 2: you see like what he was doing with that team
Speaker 2: as an owner, pushing the you know, pushing the league
Speaker 2: for certain things, you know, the team, playing the locker room,
Speaker 2: like start saying, like, you know, treating the league, like
Speaker 2: if it wasn't for Cuban, yo, the league wouldn't be
Speaker 2: where it is now.
Speaker 1: He's like an owner that was a part of the team.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he like you see him now like he saw
Speaker 3: the team. He's still with the team.
Speaker 2: That's that's an owner entrepreneur that really care about what
Speaker 2: he's doing, you know what I mean. And so you know,
Speaker 2: I used to hang out with him when I was
Speaker 2: in New Orleans, like you said, him in LA you know,
Speaker 2: hanging out. And then the year we beat him, now
Speaker 2: he was not cool, but then the year they won
Speaker 2: the championship cool. He saw me out he was.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, he was like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey man, he was like, but if
Speaker 2: it wasn't for you, guys who wouldn't have won it.
Speaker 2: So I was like, hey, thanks, you know cute, and
Speaker 2: I guess some credit. I'm a part of your history somehow,
Speaker 2: some one.
Speaker 4: Can you put in context how good this team was
Speaker 4: this year for the Mavericks, sixty seven wins is tough.
Speaker 2: Sixty wins sixty seven when guys used to play, Yeah,
Speaker 2: sixty seven wins is very, very tough. I mean, seventy
Speaker 2: wins is Bulls level Jordaness Warrior great. So at sixty seven,
Speaker 2: they were like, they lost to Miami, they should have won.
Speaker 2: They came back that year and it was like.
Speaker 1: That was the team.
Speaker 2: They were everyone's pick to win, and they were showing improving,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And they were just a
Speaker 2: buzz saw and they were only two teams that could
Speaker 2: potentially challenge them. And that was at the time. I
Speaker 2: want to say, it was like Phoenix in San Antonio,
Speaker 2: but they could beat San Antonio, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: They could beat San Antonio. They got over the hump,
Speaker 2: you know, So this was like this was their year.
Speaker 2: We finally got to the finals.
Speaker 3: We had it.
Speaker 2: We you know, kind of like Lebron with the Heatles.
Speaker 2: When Dallas beat them, it was like we have it.
Speaker 2: We on our march we about to wipe through everybody,
Speaker 2: and so you know, they were wiping through the entire league.
Speaker 2: And before this trade, we were beating them with the
Speaker 2: team that we had, so it didn't matter, Like, no,
Speaker 2: it didn't matter when we played Dallas for.
Speaker 3: Some strange reason, we beat him.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was don Nelson, but but it was the
Speaker 2: year before don Nelson got there. So we had, like
Speaker 2: over the last two or three years, had a great
Speaker 2: record against Dallas Mavericks, you know what I mean with
Speaker 2: you know, Mike Dunleevy, Troy Murphy, like with that team.
Speaker 2: Once they once they got traded, we already kind of
Speaker 2: had the number. So coming into the playoffs, we were like,
Speaker 2: you're a better team. And we got Nelly who just
Speaker 2: left last year, so he knows how all these people play.
Speaker 2: So we won a Friday Dallas, you know, and we
Speaker 2: were like, yo, we are actually the worst matchup for
Speaker 2: them because they we can match up with them. They
Speaker 2: cannot match.
Speaker 1: Up small, fast, everyone can shoot, everyone can do everything.
Speaker 2: Defense were versatile, like I can guard a two, sometimes
Speaker 2: a three. Steven Jackson could guard one through four. Al
Speaker 2: Harrington can guard three through five.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Andre Beatrice, like we would let him just play one
Speaker 2: on one, you know, against the center, right. And then
Speaker 2: Mante he can guard anybody, any guard, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So, and then Matt Barnes was versatile. Jason
Speaker 2: Richardson played two, three, four, and so he was always
Speaker 2: a mismatch, right, and our goal if Jay Rich was
Speaker 2: playing the four, chances are they're gonna throw the ball
Speaker 2: in the post, you know what I mean, and try
Speaker 2: and like use that as a mismatch.
Speaker 3: But Jay Rich can guard the four, and so you're
Speaker 3: not gonna kill us, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna kill Jay Rich faster than he about
Speaker 2: to come down to court and knock three threes down
Speaker 2: and we up twelve, and you gotta take your four
Speaker 2: guy out because he.
Speaker 3: Can't keep up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So we are always like had an advantage to like
Speaker 2: the way we played because we knew we could. Our
Speaker 2: defense was like swarming help if there was a mismatch.
Speaker 2: We know you're going to the mismatch, so we know
Speaker 2: how to play play defense out of that.
Speaker 4: With this versatility in this defensive style team, how do
Speaker 4: you think this team would pair in this day, this
Speaker 4: day and name this era.
Speaker 1: Oh, we would kill you guys would have killed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we would kill because you guy guys could cover everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we like there's there's still a matchup problem
Speaker 2: at every position. And so like you know, always say,
Speaker 2: I like this Warriors squad versus any team in this
Speaker 2: era because you know, point guard, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: like if we Trey Trey young, Monte could guard him,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Or I can guard him. Probably I don't like.
Speaker 2: Our little dudes, but you know it's like we match
Speaker 2: up against the Boston will We would match up against
Speaker 2: a Denver well, right, but they would also have to
Speaker 2: match up against us where you got guards that can
Speaker 2: get downhill dunk on you, guards that can pull up.
Speaker 3: You got three four three four.
Speaker 2: Five, you know what I mean, where it's six eight
Speaker 2: six ' nine and they can shoot the three and
Speaker 2: we're not afraid to guard.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So, like Al Harrington was super important for us because
Speaker 2: he was like a three playing the five, but he
Speaker 2: was really like a three.
Speaker 4: Now Jack just I mean bed freaking set the stage
Speaker 4: for the team. Jack On clean it up for him,
Speaker 4: if so.
Speaker 5: Entering this one, we talked about it earlier. Golden State
Speaker 5: was hot sixteen and five over the last twenty one,
Speaker 5: had to win on the final game of the season
Speaker 5: to get in Portland, to get in, win and get in.
Speaker 5: I mean it was like I was reading earlder Baron
Speaker 5: being the party in the locker room looked insane after
Speaker 5: that game in Portland.
Speaker 3: Like, oh man, it was crazy, it was crazy.
Speaker 2: It looked wild.
Speaker 5: And then go into Dallas, punch him in the mouthing.
Speaker 5: Game one, set that tone that oh shit, like we
Speaker 5: might be in for a series here, beat him by
Speaker 5: double digits. Dallas responds, Dirk wakes up. Then in game three,
Speaker 5: Baron and Jay Rich combined for fifty four, get him
Speaker 5: right back, get that two to one lead. Drop game
Speaker 5: four or yeah yeah we drop game four, or game three,
Speaker 5: no no, no, hold on game four, win again. Game five,
Speaker 5: Dallas comes back, Dirk finally looks like himself after like
Speaker 5: being off all series. So then we're going back to
Speaker 5: the Bay for game six, our game right here today,
Speaker 5: and like this thing is just absolutely rocking, Like it
Speaker 5: looks like a college atmosphere in there. Uh, Baron, you
Speaker 5: get a little bit tweaked up in the first half,
Speaker 5: but you got to go back to the locker room
Speaker 5: for a minute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you do take a shot at turtle?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 3: Man, I just shid wrapped that. It was just a gentleman.
Speaker 3: I just wrapped it. And I was I was, I
Speaker 3: was back. I didn't you know.
Speaker 2: I was like, I had to finish that game. I
Speaker 2: had invited Kate, Kate Hudson, Snoop Jessica. I was like,
Speaker 2: we're gonna close this shit out. I invited all my friends.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, we gotta make this like a thing,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And so Woody Harrelson, Woody
Speaker 2: Harrelson was there. I said him and Nelly were good
Speaker 2: friends too. Yeah, so I invited all my friends and like,
Speaker 2: you know, from up from l A. And like that's
Speaker 2: why you know we got snooping a Warrior Jersey Laker fan,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was it was believing, like he we already
Speaker 4: talked about it, but that was insane.
Speaker 1: Now, when did you guys know in the at what
Speaker 1: point of this game did you You're like we got
Speaker 1: this at no point?
Speaker 2: I would say the fourth quarter because uh no, halftime,
Speaker 2: halftime because I think I hit a half course shoint
Speaker 2: at halftime.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you man, you were hitting some crazy.
Speaker 3: You got.
Speaker 2: All that ship was happening, dude. It was like, bro,
Speaker 2: I got a pull the hamstring, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It was like like I was saying, it's like we
Speaker 2: were we were we were starting to we were peaking,
Speaker 2: but we were at the moment of like we ain't
Speaker 2: gonna never get no rest, you know what, Like we're
Speaker 2: not getting a rest. It was it was no rest,
Speaker 2: and so we were like almost like you know when
Speaker 2: you're at that point of exhaustion where you're still in
Speaker 2: the zone and you can just like like you're just
Speaker 2: there in a moment. I think that's where That's where
Speaker 2: we were, and you know, being up three two and
Speaker 2: they just one game two. We was struggling in the
Speaker 2: first half and they were up the entire first half,
Speaker 2: and so we were just trying, like we were. They
Speaker 2: were playing really good basketball. We were playing good basketball,
Speaker 2: but they like they were better than us, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, bigger and they Yeah, it's just like that,
Speaker 2: it almost like it had clicked because they came off
Speaker 2: the win first half, They're about to go in the
Speaker 2: first half with the lead and like feeling like they
Speaker 2: were in control, you know what I mean, where we
Speaker 2: could have been like, oh shit, like the pressure is
Speaker 2: on us to not lose this game. And I think
Speaker 2: that in the first half we was just fighting, fighting, fighting,
Speaker 2: and then I think when I hit that half court shot,
Speaker 2: it was lucky, it.
Speaker 3: Was lucky, but I ran the peachers. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I told you I was gonna do it. This is
Speaker 3: our game. And you see me clapping in his face, like.
Speaker 2: This game is gonna work for it, this is ours,
Speaker 2: this is our moment, this is our If I hit
Speaker 2: some shit like that, bro, that means like the lid
Speaker 2: is you know what I mean, Like the leader is up.
Speaker 2: And we came out in the third quarter and we
Speaker 2: were just like gangbusters, you know what I mean, was
Speaker 2: hitting every everybody they rich, was setting that ship.
Speaker 3: Stack Stack got staught the handshake.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that was the funniest thing ever. So, you know,
Speaker 2: Stephen Jackson, uh had got into some trouble, so him
Speaker 2: and Matt I don't know how it happened, but they
Speaker 2: decided during the starting lineup that when Stephen Jackson came
Speaker 2: out that Matt was gonna for frisk and so so
Speaker 2: we do it Game one and then there was Nelly
Speaker 2: comes after we win. He's like, all right, guys, I
Speaker 2: got some bad news.
Speaker 3: We're like, what man? All right? Uh? You know I
Speaker 3: was talking to the league.
Speaker 2: They talking about if we do that again, the frisking thing,
Speaker 2: you know, the frisking gotta go. All right, they're gonna
Speaker 2: kick some you know, theyin't gonna suspend us for a game.
Speaker 3: Or whatnot like that. Everybody was like, oh, come on,
Speaker 3: that's like a that's not think.
Speaker 1: They were like, uh, we'll be right back after this
Speaker 1: quick break. Now, let's let's name this game. What's the
Speaker 1: name of this game? Uh, we believe game. See a
Speaker 1: Dirk don Nelson's Revenge. This one's for Don Or Is
Speaker 1: there a name that you got?
Speaker 3: I would say that we believe game.
Speaker 2: I believe in Don's revenge right because for him, big smoker,
Speaker 2: it was it was a full cycle moment.
Speaker 1: He's a big smoker.
Speaker 4: I heard, let's score this game. Is this the greatest
Speaker 4: game of all time? Let's score it steaks zero to
Speaker 4: ten decimals? Okay, steaks of this game.
Speaker 3: The stakes of this game was that all time.
Speaker 2: I would say, you know, you gotta say it's a
Speaker 2: none because it's a closeout game.
Speaker 4: I mean we've had game seven championship games on this show.
Speaker 4: We got super Bowls, We've got repeat super Bowls.
Speaker 3: But I get that nine for us to get out
Speaker 3: the round.
Speaker 4: No, yea, I'm gonna go seven point nine this game
Speaker 4: six baby star Power.
Speaker 1: I mean we had just an album there.
Speaker 4: We got Woody Harrelson, we had Snooping a Warrior in
Speaker 4: the Bay Ever had like.
Speaker 3: Celebrities, celebrity in Hollywood stars.
Speaker 1: So you brought the celebrities.
Speaker 2: Damn, he goes ten.
Speaker 3: Get my team bit star Power, stoles p was there too? Short?
Speaker 3: Was there was like the Bay Area Legends was out.
Speaker 1: Gameplay let's go to gameplay zero to ten, ten the
Speaker 1: name of the game.
Speaker 3: That we believe game, we believe game.
Speaker 1: We'll just score the name.
Speaker 3: What's the score the name?
Speaker 1: You gotta score the name out of out of ten.
Speaker 3: Damn, it was the greatest game.
Speaker 1: My score star Power. I will go how many Hall
Speaker 1: of Famers on the.
Speaker 3: Court right now? Ship just dirt. Now that's it.
Speaker 4: I gotta go with the eight point two gameplay. It
Speaker 4: was back and forth nine to one.
Speaker 1: The name, it's a good name. I'll give it a
Speaker 1: eight four.
Speaker 5: Don Nelson's in the Hall of Fame though too, corrections too.
Speaker 6: I still eight though, eight point one three?
Speaker 4: Where's that ranking in all our games that we've done. Hell, oh,
Speaker 4: that's some great we've done crazy games.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 6: They just blow the Standing Cup Final twenty eleven Game
Speaker 6: seven Bruins Cannucks just solid.
Speaker 1: I mean, this was the foundational game.
Speaker 3: How is the Patriots Chiefs number one?
Speaker 6: We're a little bias here that I'm just fucking round.
Speaker 2: Where's the game where the Patriots seated the Raiders is
Speaker 2: what I want to see.
Speaker 1: We haven't don't done the tuch roll game yet. We
Speaker 1: might do it this week, cheaters, we're talking about that was?
Speaker 1: That was That was the That was the rule even
Speaker 1: when the quarterback is bringing repack.
Speaker 3: Then we did No, we did not have the rule.
Speaker 3: Oh where you can resend I.
Speaker 1: At that time? Bro, I appreciate you coming on, Bro.
Speaker 3: Writer, I hear it. Bro, I het it.
Speaker 1: Have some good guys up there, got some fun games.
Speaker 1: You have anything else to plug?
Speaker 2: Uh?
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Speaker 2: No, I got a you know, business inside the game.
Speaker 2: Uh big Summit dot com and the pod slick talk
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Speaker 3: And then uh, other than that, man, I'm just coaching
Speaker 3: flag football my kids.
Speaker 1: What's your flag football teammates?
Speaker 3: We are the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2: Buccaneers six time champions, bro sixth time flag football.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, we don't play talk.
Speaker 4: To the kids on the wife are on the FaceTime
Speaker 4: remember yeah, hell yeah they have football practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah they love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had practice last night.
Speaker 3: We got practice tonight.
Speaker 1: We miss anything, Jackie, No, we were pretty darn good.
Speaker 3: I got an album. I'm dropping under. Uh what a
Speaker 3: what an artist?
Speaker 2: Bart Oatmeal so like a whole like music situation started
Speaker 2: doing that, making music, building out artists.
Speaker 3: So Bart Oatmeal, Bart Oatmeal cookies. Yeah, get a ball,
Speaker 3: we make cookies and music.
Speaker 1: My guy, dog, we are back. We just had to,
Speaker 1: uh let Baron Davis go. He had a very important business.
Speaker 3: You fire him.
Speaker 1: No, No, he's busy. I mean he had one meeting
Speaker 1: to another meeting, a lot of stuff going on. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, he's electric.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: The stories is delivering ability is amazing.
Speaker 5: And any man there's a fan of Wild Hogs is
Speaker 5: a friend of our podcast.
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen it. I know we're gonna go
Speaker 1: watch it now. Are we gonna get back too? Let's
Speaker 1: cut up a little bit to clean up some of
Speaker 1: the stuff we were going uh and set the stage
Speaker 1: for the Warriors. We didn't get to go in that.
Speaker 1: Even though he sent the stage.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 1: He d every player that we were talking about.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get in Steve Jacket, I wanted to.
Speaker 6: Get stack in, Matt Barnes. Yeah, I know, we just
Speaker 6: gotta say the names of the people. You just gotta
Speaker 6: say them.
Speaker 3: We gotta show, we gotta, we gotta talk.
Speaker 5: We want to talk much Monte Ellis. This was a
Speaker 5: team of Steven Jackson, Al Harrington.
Speaker 1: Notably, Monte Ellis was like the best garter. He was
Speaker 1: a beat saying that.
Speaker 5: I think he did say something along those lines.
Speaker 6: I wasn't paying attention. That's too much flashing time of how.
Speaker 5: Of how electric he was. Because I even liked him
Speaker 5: on the STEPH Warriors, Like like early in that day,
Speaker 5: I was like, Monte's got him, Like they should go
Speaker 5: with Monte Like that is a very cold take now
Speaker 5: at an age very well, but like I loved his game.
Speaker 4: People loved Monte's best Also, Jules, you said that when
Speaker 4: you grew up, you grew up a Warriors fan, that
Speaker 4: they were always pretty bad, and this was the first time.
Speaker 1: This is the first time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the first time I remembered. Yeah, I mean, like,
Speaker 4: I mean I remember as a kid that what year
Speaker 4: was Spree wow? When he coaches choke choked out the coach.
Speaker 4: I just remember that because my parents used to watch
Speaker 4: the local news. I remember seeing it on the local news.
Speaker 5: That was uh, Spree was in Golden State from ninety
Speaker 5: two to ninety eight longer than I thought.
Speaker 3: No, he was there.
Speaker 1: Spree was there.
Speaker 5: I think by the time I was coming into being
Speaker 5: a hooped, he was a nick at this point.
Speaker 4: So I was like, because he was, he was the
Speaker 4: only star that I really remember as a kid. I
Speaker 4: was real young, and I was like, wasn't it everyone
Speaker 4: like if you're a casual fan in basketball at that time,
Speaker 4: you like watched.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, right, I mean, but you were no casual baby,
Speaker 1: I was. I was more of a forty nine er
Speaker 1: Giant fan.
Speaker 5: And then these guys were third and the Sharks.
Speaker 1: I went to one San Jose Shark game.
Speaker 5: Can I just in the cow Palace do the Oh
Speaker 5: my god, we need to do an episode just about
Speaker 5: my dad.
Speaker 4: We didn't figure out how to get there, so we
Speaker 4: missed the first two periods and so that was like
Speaker 4: by then, by the time we left, the experience of
Speaker 4: going to the hockey game was so scarred.
Speaker 1: That like we just kind of dropped out of hockey.
Speaker 5: Maybe one of the best names of any arena ever
Speaker 5: Shark Tank, No.
Speaker 4: The cow Palace was they were building the shark tank,
Speaker 4: the shark tank or whatever, and they didn't have a
Speaker 4: place to play. So the cow Palace where they have
Speaker 4: all like the flea markets and the ship very tight
Speaker 4: the cattle like.
Speaker 7: Shows, which also can I just just because it's my thing,
Speaker 7: you blew right past this is the time of the
Speaker 7: NHL when we were in two thousand and seven. You
Speaker 7: blew past the Anaheim Ducks won the Stanley Cup in Sydney,
Speaker 7: Kris when the Hart Trophy.
Speaker 5: Just you know, natural topics to talk about.
Speaker 6: Oh but oh but wild hogs.
Speaker 5: Hey, that was we knew he was. He's a hogsman,
Speaker 5: I knew he would.
Speaker 6: Be or anything else. In these Warriors, they started terrible
Speaker 6: and they really finished the series.
Speaker 5: They turned it on everybody got healthy at the right time,
Speaker 5: traded for Stack after he had a little incident outside
Speaker 5: the Gentleman's Club in Indy. We won't get into that.
Speaker 5: We believe baby, we love we love Stack. It took
Speaker 5: over the city, dog took over the city. Yeah, he's
Speaker 5: we gotta get him on here at some point. He's
Speaker 5: a beast. He was bawling out in this series this.
Speaker 4: Joe Barnes, I saw Barny dunking on dude bro the
Speaker 4: up tempo like they probably would have been a problem
Speaker 4: in this day and age.
Speaker 6: Yes, something I have noticed that all the guys from
Speaker 6: this era we've talked to, they were like, no, we.
Speaker 3: Were the Warriors back then.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, it's true.
Speaker 6: Maybe everyone was the Warriors before.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, it is a little bit of like.
Speaker 6: But watching this game, there was a lot of threes.
Speaker 5: It was fun.
Speaker 6: We kind of nailed the lead up already when uh this.
Speaker 5: Was also Jules, you mentioned how trash the Warriors were
Speaker 5: in your younger days. This was a thirteen year playoff hyah,
Speaker 5: Draus ended it back to the run TMC days. That
Speaker 5: was the last playoff win for these guys back in
Speaker 5: ninety one. So and then teen years since they'd even
Speaker 5: been That's crazy, bro, much less win the series crazy.
Speaker 1: I just remember the Warriors always stinking, and then they
Speaker 1: got hot. And then I left and.
Speaker 5: You became a Celtics guy. Think, guy, well, what what
Speaker 5: year was this?
Speaker 1: This was two thousand and seven.
Speaker 4: I was in college and then I got far and
Speaker 4: then and then at that time in my life, Lebron
Speaker 4: was just coming out, right, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I was in northeast Ohio. He went to Cleveland,
Speaker 4: he was from Akron. I remember I went to the
Speaker 4: Chapel Hill Mall, picked up a pair of them brand
Speaker 4: new sneaks. At is the first once I was like, man,
Speaker 4: Lebron is tight.
Speaker 1: He's like my age dominating.
Speaker 5: And to be in Ohio at that time.
Speaker 1: I came, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And so then but then I got drafted to Boston,
Speaker 4: and you know, I started going to the games, and
Speaker 4: you know, the Warriors kind of were starting to get
Speaker 4: good at that time as well. But then I started
Speaker 4: making relationships with guys on the teams, and you know,
Speaker 4: and then it becomes you know, that's all you see.
Speaker 4: No I like that, and no one's waking staying up
Speaker 4: until like twelve o'clock to watch a Warriors game.
Speaker 5: No, I mean we love steps. No, No, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: I'd rather sit courtside of the garden. Anyways, God Godden, all.
Speaker 6: Right, we want to give us a high level on
Speaker 6: this game, ying beers for the whole section.
Speaker 5: Down in front. I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the game we touched on with Baron a little bit.
Speaker 5: We had to speed through it. It was really a story.
Speaker 5: Like the third quarter was really the pivotal moment of
Speaker 5: this when it was one of those classic playoff third
Speaker 5: quarter on slots. Just couldn't miss in about scoring them
Speaker 5: thirty beer and a half. That was a big mode
Speaker 5: changer that I'm glad he brought up and we had
Speaker 5: time to talk about. Uh, that was huge. And we
Speaker 5: saw Baron. I mean we were watching the highlights out
Speaker 5: on the patio before this. Baron's hitting these one legged
Speaker 5: side step threes. Everything was going in the tempo was
Speaker 5: too pulled the hammy and he still comes back Bulls
Speaker 5: with Willis Reid, Donnie Donnie Nelson was throwing a little
Speaker 5: bit of a zone action at the map just to
Speaker 5: throw them off because they were undersized and scrappy and
Speaker 5: he knew, you know, the tendency of the MAVs better
Speaker 5: than anybody because he kind of assembled this team and
Speaker 5: he's coaching against his protege, Avery Johnson. And then the
Speaker 5: fourth quarter we held on after There's a little skirmish
Speaker 5: in the second half too, which we love, love a
Speaker 5: little playoff fight, getting get a little chewing in it.
Speaker 5: I think it was Stack love that Jackie Stack Jay
Speaker 5: let me double checked tough all right, final score, final
Speaker 5: score in this one one eleven eighty six. Baron finishes
Speaker 5: with twenty ten and six assists, leads him into that
Speaker 5: second round, which nobody thought would ever happen. Nobody, which
Speaker 5: leads me to one of our bigger regrets. My biggest
Speaker 5: regret of the episode. What I wanted to talk about
Speaker 5: that dunk over a K four in the next round.
Speaker 4: Come back back, because he even said it off camera.
Speaker 4: I don't know, he may have said it on Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think he mentioned it once and I was like,
Speaker 5: did that tell us about everything?
Speaker 3: Beat?
Speaker 1: I want to hear it all I wanted to get.
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to see what the pap down.
Speaker 5: Was because, yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 3: That was a great question.
Speaker 1: That was part of s boys. Shoutout s boys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out spencing the guys. No, that was awesome.
Speaker 5: I just want to that's what That might be one
Speaker 5: of the best dunksan playoff history in my from my money.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he hit the afternoon real quick.
Speaker 5: This was the first upset of a number eight seed
Speaker 5: over a number one seed in a seven game playoff series.
Speaker 5: It's worth noting that it had been done before, but
Speaker 5: that was when the NBA was doing five game series.
Speaker 5: First by the Seattle SuperSonics by by Nate McMillan back
Speaker 5: in the eighty six eighty seven season. That was also
Speaker 5: against the Maps. Funnily funny enough, then it also happened
Speaker 5: with the Knicks in ninety nine when they beat the
Speaker 5: Heat in the first round, and then since this game,
Speaker 5: it happened in twenty eleven when the Griz beat the
Speaker 5: Spurs in the first round, and then I don't even
Speaker 5: want to talk about this team. Last year the Heat
Speaker 5: did it against the in the first round. And then
Speaker 5: Bucks are out and two again yeah out and now
Speaker 5: again too.
Speaker 6: So it's and this Maps team is the first and.
Speaker 1: Are you are you? Are you Bucks fan?
Speaker 3: Jackie?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: But that Heat team went on to beat us in
Speaker 5: the Eastern Conference finals last year. Oh god, we showed
Speaker 5: them the other year.
Speaker 6: This MAPS team is the first and only team with
Speaker 6: an eight hundred regular season record.
Speaker 1: Yep, to lose in the first round.
Speaker 5: Insane, sixty seven games and losing. It's just winning percentage, Yeah,
Speaker 5: winning percentage. And then, famously, Dirty Dirk, as we call
Speaker 5: him on this podcast, we say it affectionately. Dirty Dirty
Speaker 5: Dirk launched a trash can at the wall inside the
Speaker 5: arena on the way to the locker room, and apparently
Speaker 5: it went fifteen feet up onto the wall, so much
Speaker 5: that they made a little note on the wall inside
Speaker 5: the tunnel there. Dirk was pissed.
Speaker 4: Man, well, you gotta think about it. You know, he's
Speaker 4: only gonna throw it two feet higher than what he's at.
Speaker 4: Cool and stuff, but like that's like if I were
Speaker 4: to get it to like the top of the door.
Speaker 5: Very true. He's starting with a high base there. He's
Speaker 5: literally angle.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about it. I mean, you look, you
Speaker 1: look there. You're like, man, well he's seven feet he's
Speaker 1: probably about that. He lifts his arm up, that's another
Speaker 1: foot and a half.
Speaker 6: Trash cans three feet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not that impressive.
Speaker 2: Dirty dirt.
Speaker 5: Come on, still, let him fly.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 1: He's German? Right, is that German?
Speaker 6: I'm so German's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all Jammin's.
Speaker 4: Ug is a gentleman of a particular with how the
Speaker 4: engine the NBA Baska player, I.
Speaker 5: Think you did your dirt to Cuban when he was on.
Speaker 5: I think so he liked it. I don't know. I
Speaker 5: have to check the table.
Speaker 6: Idiots checked the table. I'm sure he scored the impression
Speaker 6: of ten.
Speaker 3: I gave it a t.
Speaker 1: I mean the score we got today. Come on, bead, bead.
Speaker 5: He's so lucky.
Speaker 6: There was a time constraint because I was hold me back,
Speaker 6: hold me back.
Speaker 5: I think he likes varsity blues just like us.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 7: All right, legacy here, let's get some of these.
Speaker 4: Where did Oracle rank amongst the craziest atmospheres?
Speaker 5: Did you ever get to go to a game in Oracle?
Speaker 1: I didn't go to a game at Oracle, but I
Speaker 1: went to the Oracle Arena.
Speaker 4: It was Oakland, Yeah, right there in Oakland. I mean
Speaker 4: it was a few concerts there. Its like a two
Speaker 4: short concert.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I went to like one of those summer jams.
Speaker 5: Oh nice.
Speaker 1: They used to have him out there like one one
Speaker 1: six KL you and you.
Speaker 5: And Kurty out there. I think, so that's so sick.
Speaker 1: I to Mariah Carey concert.
Speaker 5: There was that the one where you go to meet
Speaker 5: her backstage. Yeah, oh, and take the picture.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to.
Speaker 5: We'll have to show the picture, all right, drop it
Speaker 5: in there, Oracle.
Speaker 1: Oracle used to get wild though it looks pretty cool, they.
Speaker 5: Were saying in the uh in the aftermath, I was
Speaker 5: trying to find the footage of it, but came up
Speaker 5: a little short, they said, Michel Petrov. There we talked
Speaker 5: about a little bit. Baron got up in his face
Speaker 5: after that. Three was trying to CrowdSurf in the crowd
Speaker 5: after this game, Like when do you ever hear that
Speaker 5: happened in an NBA game? A player crowdsurfing. It's like
Speaker 5: it's a damn van Halen couns.
Speaker 1: It goes a little different.
Speaker 5: Mouse in the palace not if the body is unconscious
Speaker 5: falling down the stairs. I don't know if that counts.
Speaker 5: But stack was it both? Stack was there for both.
Speaker 7: Joel's question for you, you know this, this is the
Speaker 7: we believe game? In your opinion, which is better we
Speaker 7: Believe or gotta believe.
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably was in the subconscious because I
Speaker 1: live through this.
Speaker 3: We believe.
Speaker 1: Gotta believe. I like the Wei we is better.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a whole city.
Speaker 6: Gotta believe. Won a championship. We believe. Lost in the
Speaker 6: second round of the playoffs.
Speaker 5: You think that's where Dola got it from? Is that
Speaker 5: where Dola got it from?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 5: Then I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: You get where's that new picture?
Speaker 5: Oh, Batman?
Speaker 6: All we miss anything?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, hold on, we got a lot of.
Speaker 5: We missed a lot of things. But we were having fun. Man,
Speaker 5: That's all that matters at this game. I didn't realize
Speaker 5: b D was the reason for a lot of these
Speaker 5: stars being in the crowd, the Kate Hudson's of the
Speaker 5: world and Wilson. I didn't realize he was responsible.
Speaker 1: Snoop in a Warriors jersey, that's crazy.
Speaker 6: I mean, Snoop showing up in different jersey is not
Speaker 6: the most creazy La Bay.
Speaker 1: It is a little different.
Speaker 3: That true.
Speaker 6: You don't understand, No, that's true, but.
Speaker 3: It is working.
Speaker 1: He bridges bridges communities.
Speaker 6: We were talking about the other day that Snoop Dogg
Speaker 6: transcends fandom. Yeah, because that motherfucker wars that Penguins Jersey
Speaker 6: like a.
Speaker 1: Fucking you like Spitsburg Steelers he does.
Speaker 6: And juice music videos. We're in Penguins Jersey.
Speaker 5: He's friendly with. Yeah, he's friendly with the bats.
Speaker 6: Who isn't friendly with Snoop?
Speaker 5: Now, I don't know.
Speaker 6: An, I don't know anything else.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's worth noting. Also at this game, Carlos Santana,
Speaker 5: Carlos Legend and Carlos Ronnie Lott was in the buildings
Speaker 5: in Portside the Legend and Alex Smith got his finger Niner.
Speaker 1: Days Alex Smith.
Speaker 5: Alex Smith, he was there wearing a vitamin water hat.
Speaker 5: I was looking at the pictures.
Speaker 1: I wonder if he got stuck.
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe back in the day, I hope.
Speaker 5: So he's not that guy pal that vitamin water. Triple
Speaker 5: X was hitting back then You're.
Speaker 1: Not that guy pal, You're not that guy pal.
Speaker 5: Those were the big points I think we we we
Speaker 5: didn't quite hit that.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: I wanted to make sure we Crowbard in there. But
Speaker 5: cool man and yeah, don Nelson coached the MAVs ninety
Speaker 5: seven to five, so that's why he had all the intel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he said it was even before them.
Speaker 5: He was, Yeah, that was wild to me. I forgot
Speaker 5: that part.
Speaker 1: He said before even Don even got there. We had
Speaker 1: a number that's sick that in confidence goes a long
Speaker 1: win basket those.
Speaker 5: Big time in Big Mo and being hot and catching
Speaker 5: a team at the right time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: I mean for a while the Warriors were so bad
Speaker 4: before that was it before when did what was Chris
Speaker 4: Wepper in the league a little before this?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was in the league at this time, but
Speaker 5: he wasn't let me see, uh, but when when.
Speaker 1: Those Kings teams were hot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was like they had an ant that lived
Speaker 4: in Sacramento and they used to do the cow thing
Speaker 4: it there at their stadium.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the cow bell he was. He retired in eight
Speaker 5: So this was like right up in the individual.
Speaker 4: So like he was like late nineties yep. Like I
Speaker 4: I remember I loved watching them because they won.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they.
Speaker 1: Anything. I had Warriors gear. But like, Warriors were fucking
Speaker 1: terrible for a long time.
Speaker 5: Oh man, I mean they were bad. You lived through it, unfortunately.
Speaker 1: So and then and then the expansion team they were
Speaker 1: the Kings. They were expansion I think then when when
Speaker 1: did they come around? May five?
Speaker 5: They were the Rochester Royals before that, and then eighty
Speaker 5: five they moved from Kansas City to Sacramento.
Speaker 1: Was it eighty five?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Kansas City Kings from seventy five to eighty five.
Speaker 5: Crazy right, Cincinnati?
Speaker 3: Where should get it going? Whatever?
Speaker 1: I just don't remember they got a new stadium or so,
Speaker 1: I don't. All right, let's see what we got now.
Speaker 6: Let's toss it to our post guest segment.
Speaker 1: Now, let's go post guest segment.
Speaker 5: Man Barren rocked, Yeah, what an episode.
Speaker 6: Let's do this post guest segment.
Speaker 1: What a guy? Yeah, Oh, Baron, he's interesting, man, he's funny.
Speaker 5: Gotta get old Baron back really good.
Speaker 1: Uh, cinema knowledge.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, a cinephile.
Speaker 2: Indeed.
Speaker 6: Also we talk about simulations that.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 5: Wild wild hogs, two wild hogs, two wildhawks two. We
Speaker 5: got all the way in there somehow.
Speaker 1: I text him that picture. He said, we should definitely
Speaker 1: get in it.
Speaker 6: Maybe we could do a prequel. We should get in it.
Speaker 5: Nobody rides harder for the hogs than us.
Speaker 6: Man, all right, what are we doing here, Jack?
Speaker 5: We are doing in honor of Baron Davis, and we're
Speaker 5: in NBA playoff mode. Right now, we are blind ranking
Speaker 5: five of the best NBA Finals moments of all time.
Speaker 5: That means I will present you with a moment, Jewels,
Speaker 5: you don't know what's coming next, and you will rank
Speaker 5: the moment one through five without knowing what's coming next.
Speaker 5: All right, So one might be the best one, but
Speaker 5: if you put it at five, something better. Mike, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, all right, So you know those things.
Speaker 5: It's like the tiktoctor.
Speaker 6: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: We got a special guest, Larry, Larry not bird house.
Speaker 5: Larry O'Brien. Trophy is in the building, Larry.
Speaker 1: Let's go, baby.
Speaker 5: The trophy has made an appearance in the little old nuthouse,
Speaker 5: coming to see us.
Speaker 1: Man, the basketball guys make it look so small.
Speaker 5: Twenty nine point nine pounds, twenty nine point nine big boy,
Speaker 5: big boy.
Speaker 1: I heard its sterling silver with a twenty four carrot
Speaker 1: goal covery. You were right, Tiffany, Tiffany.
Speaker 5: Sheesh, pretty pretty sweet.
Speaker 1: You see the net And I never knew that was
Speaker 1: like the net.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, in the.
Speaker 5: Details, man, that's so sick, that that is so sick.
Speaker 5: We got to flick it up afterwards with this makes
Speaker 5: me want to light up a cigar like old Red
Speaker 5: and hoist that thing.
Speaker 6: We got a cigar, right, we got a picture.
Speaker 5: We gotta be somewhere in here.
Speaker 1: This is a smoke free environment. This is true for
Speaker 1: the look California can't smoke indoors.
Speaker 6: Heay, the Boston Garden was in a smoke for the
Speaker 6: environment from.
Speaker 5: Now when Red was there? Shall we get it? With
Speaker 5: Arry joining us talking about great finals moments? Should we
Speaker 5: get into these jewels?
Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
Speaker 5: The first moment I will present you with is nineteen
Speaker 5: seventy NBA Finals hobbled Willis Reed returns to help the
Speaker 5: Knicks win Game seven against the Lakers. Where are we
Speaker 5: putting that one through five? With five number five a
Speaker 5: little before our time? Knicks fan, Nah, we're a Boston
Speaker 5: Celtics podcast.
Speaker 1: No we're not.
Speaker 3: Jack.
Speaker 6: You've been going crazy on our Twitter with all the
Speaker 6: Boston ship.
Speaker 3: Hey, all this, all these.
Speaker 5: Brilliant play too much, and I'm a home.
Speaker 1: I got a Western and Eastern team, all right.
Speaker 5: The Warriors ain't in anymore, so sounds like we got
Speaker 5: to ride for our dogs.
Speaker 1: Larry's Larry's here, Where there is here?
Speaker 5: And we're just keeping them warm for j T and
Speaker 5: JB baby and KP. We're keeping them warm for you.
Speaker 4: They could literally have this at the end of the year.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping, Oh, I'm praying, hoping. Coming back from Brazil
Speaker 4: and I want to go to a Celtics game. I
Speaker 4: want to sit my feet right up on that floor
Speaker 4: and just tickle that hardwood and watch the boys take
Speaker 4: one down further.
Speaker 5: If they give you an extra seat, I'm coming with you. Hey,
Speaker 5: I'm down.
Speaker 1: Kyler lap joke.
Speaker 3: He too bad.
Speaker 5: I didn't think it was a joke. I'm serious.
Speaker 2: I would do it.
Speaker 5: The next moment I will present you with is Jules
Speaker 5: Kyrie irving clutch fade away three in Game seven of
Speaker 5: the twenty sixteen finals right in Steph's eye. Remember that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna put that three number three. That was
Speaker 1: a great Kyrie. I just also have Kyrie high right
Speaker 1: now because he's finishing like he just finisher.
Speaker 5: I've ever seen the left handed run.
Speaker 1: The funnest player to watch.
Speaker 5: I want to hate him, but I mean the on
Speaker 5: court performances.
Speaker 1: He can think the world is flat the way he balls.
Speaker 5: I'll let him slide on that one. Maybe not the
Speaker 5: other stuff nineteen ninety. The next moment I will present
Speaker 5: you with is the nineteen ninety seven NBA Finals, Michael
Speaker 5: Jordan's flu game to sink the Jazz in Game five.
Speaker 1: You have the push offf too.
Speaker 3: Did you do that?
Speaker 5: Some say a little bit? Was it hungover? Was he
Speaker 5: got the flu with?
Speaker 1: I mean that was like in the heat of when
Speaker 1: I was watching basketball.
Speaker 5: Kid for sure is all timer.
Speaker 1: That's a one.
Speaker 5: That's number one.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 5: The next moment I will present you with is from
Speaker 5: the nineteen eighty seven NBA Finals, Magic Johnson's junior skyhook
Speaker 5: in Game four late in the game to put the
Speaker 5: uh the Lakers ahead and beat the Celtics. That going
Speaker 5: to win this series four to two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never liked the Lakers.
Speaker 3: I like Magic Johnson.
Speaker 1: But yep, that's a three spot that we.
Speaker 6: Just spent the night in the Forum.
Speaker 1: We were just in the forum.
Speaker 5: We were there.
Speaker 1: There are some great pieces of some photos in that
Speaker 1: always a.
Speaker 5: Lot of history in that building, a lot of history.
Speaker 6: Jack had some great jokes that definitely got cut. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and we shouldn't say right now, we.
Speaker 5: Won't see they were cut for a reason. And then
Speaker 5: finally the last moment from also from the twenty sixteen
Speaker 5: NBA Finals, Lebron's chased down block in Game seven, Remember
Speaker 5: that one I do?
Speaker 1: Oh that would all the time.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, early in the career.
Speaker 5: Objects in rearview mirror maybe closer than they appear.
Speaker 1: I went to Chapel Hill. Mom bought me some Lebron's
Speaker 1: back in the days, the Zoom Soldiers in the day. Ohio,
Speaker 1: those are classic.
Speaker 5: That was back when Lebrons were in this.
Speaker 1: That's two P, right, that's ye, I'll give two P.
Speaker 1: That's that's how it should be.
Speaker 5: Pretty dark, good list, you know, m J one, m
Speaker 5: J one. We went Kyrie No, No, we went Lebron.
Speaker 4: To Lebron too, Kyrie three, Kyrie three, and Willis reed,
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Willis reminds me of a terrible joke
Speaker 4: that we won't tell because we have Larry here.
Speaker 6: We gotta respect Larry.
Speaker 1: Gotta respect Larry, very respectable, blind drink. But Chris Long
Speaker 1: knows what I'm talking about with Willis.
Speaker 5: We'll have to ask him.
Speaker 1: Chris Long, you know what I'm talking about, Willis.
Speaker 5: Green light, green Light.
Speaker 6: I've got one question for Larry. I wonder what his
Speaker 6: favorite home is the next.
Speaker 3: One, the next one, the next one.
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, that's well, that was awesome.
Speaker 5: What Larry, Oh, Larry, maybe the best guess we've got
Speaker 5: in the nuthouse. And sometime it's it's.
Speaker 6: Up there until we get Stanley.
Speaker 3: What an asshole this guy?
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, what a game.
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Baron and Larry. Larry, thanks for coming
Speaker 1: in and stopping by the set.
Speaker 3: We love it.
Speaker 1: They keep that bad boy shiny. Seriously, they came in,
Speaker 1: dropped it off with gloves. I honestly, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm not at liberty to touch this thing.
Speaker 5: I know I had the same feeling.
Speaker 1: Look, it's a weird, superstitious thing, and I've already been
Speaker 1: holding it.
Speaker 6: We'll cut that if they Celtics lose next round.
Speaker 3: Stop.
Speaker 5: Stop, don't even put that out in the ether.
Speaker 1: That's been another episode of Games with Names.
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Speaker 6: Before we wrap it up, just a big thank you
Speaker 6: to Larry and his team in the NBA.
Speaker 1: O Brian, thank you this is and we can't wait
Speaker 1: to see you back in Boston this year. It'd be
Speaker 1: really cool to see in the garden.
Speaker 6: Let's go see hell yeah, let's go see what and honor.
Speaker 5: Let's all.
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