1 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health. 2 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: All right, here we are on a Tuesday, One Bill's 3 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: Live Chris brown Steed Tasker, if you please to be 4 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: joined here in studio by Bill's general manager Brandon Bean. 5 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: In the wake of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, 6 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: the class is set and uh, well, I guess undrafted 7 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: rookie free agent signings were going to be completed here 8 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: in the coming days, I would assume. But you got 9 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: a bunch of new guys on your roster, and I 10 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: know on Saturday night you felt really good about, you know, 11 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: the blend of players that you felt you had. What 12 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: do you feel is the overarching kind of theme of 13 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: the class that you were able to assemble here? 14 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we got some guys. You know, as 15 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: you look as you go down the draft, obviously at 16 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: the top of the draft, you're going, you know, this 17 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: guy is either a Day one starter or a key reserve, 18 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: or hey, I think I think he's going to start 19 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: in a year, whatever, wherever you're at. As you go down, 20 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: you're going, all right, is this guy gonna be a 21 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: really good backup? A functional starter, you know, for two 22 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: or three games? But best roll as a backup, and 23 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: then you talk about fourth down, special teams, things like that. 24 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: So we tried to hit a lot of those areas. 25 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: As you go down your board, you start looking less 26 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: at value you know on your board, and more how 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: do they make the team and filling some position holes 28 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: versus at the top you're going, I'm trying to get 29 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: the best damn player I can get, And so you know, 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: we would say the other theme we really tried to 31 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: hit was a lot of our bills DNA beyond the 32 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: skill set and you can be Bills DNA as a 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: seventh rounder and not how Bills DNA as a first rounder. 34 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: You know, we put the talent where it is, but 35 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: just that leadership, professional habits, smart for your position, all 36 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: those intangibles that will help you not only achieve where 37 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: we see your physical talents, but exceed them. 38 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 4: One of the things that came out this week and 39 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: leading up to the draft, we're in this mock draft 40 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: season and where everybody's talking about trading up, trading around. 41 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 4: It was just report Albert Breer came out today and 42 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 4: I want to mention this. So New England's sitting there 43 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: at number three and everybody's asking you. All our fans 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 4: are like, hey, why don't you trade in the top 45 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 4: ten get one of those guys? You know that right, 46 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: And we tried to say, listen, first of all, it's 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 4: really expensive and secondly, you gotta get somebody say yes. 48 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: So New England's sitting there at number three. Has been 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 4: reported they were offered Minnesota's eleventh and the twenty third 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 4: in the first round and next year's twenty twenty five 51 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: first rounder and swapping three picks back in this in 52 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 4: this draft, so that the Vikings would get New England's 53 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 4: three picks in later rounds and they would split so 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 4: the Vikings we get better picks in the rounds because 55 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: New England's number three. So they were getting three ones 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: and just flipping some other picks, and New England said, nah, yeah, 57 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: we're not. 58 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: Going to do it. 59 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 4: It's expensive to move up Oh my gosh, three ones 60 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: and they wouldn't do it. 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that tells you what it is. And you know, 62 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: quarterback is the premium position. You got to do that. 63 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: And when you trade up that high in the round 64 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: to get one of these premier players, you know, I 65 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: would say probably the biggest trade up we remember for 66 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: a receiver, and I know that's what people wanted, was 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: the Julio Jones deal. And listen, they did make a 68 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, But tell me where for a non quarterback 69 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: it's made sense to give up you know, few future 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: ones and all that stuff. It sounds sexy at the time, 71 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: but it's I bet you a lot of teams had 72 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: buyers remorse after they did it, and it just we 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: felt there was depth at this class. You know, I 74 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: get it if you're going, hey, there's two or three 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: receivers that you'll ever be able to get your hands 76 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: on this draft, and if you don't go get one 77 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: of those, your sol for the season. And we didn't 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: see it that way, and just again, it allowed us 79 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: to fill other holes and find other players that can 80 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: help us going forward. 81 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: I think as people learn more about Kean Coleman after 82 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: it was your first pick of the draft, they realize 83 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: he's twenty years old, and I think if you couple 84 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: that with the fact that he was largely a two 85 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: sport athlete even halfway through his college career, so I 86 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: think it's fair to say he doesn't have the reps 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: that a single sport football player that went through the 88 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: same path that he did would have. Do you feel 89 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: like there's a lot that is still untapped with Keon 90 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: in terms? I mean, the physical ability is readily apparent 91 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 2: and the things he's able to do on a football field, 92 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: But I feel as a twenty year old with a 93 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: two sport athlete that was as good as he was, 94 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: I gotta believe you feel there's a lot of untapped 95 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: stuff to him that your coaching staff is going to 96 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: have to get out of him right going forward. Like 97 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: there's a lot there, like high ceiling. I guess it's 98 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: a long way to say in high ceiling. 99 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you spelled it out there exactly, Chris. You're talking 100 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 3: about drafting a guy who's twenty who's got we know 101 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 3: the physical talents he has now, but he's not completely grown. 102 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: We've all seen young men that are eighteen, nineteen, twenty 103 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: twenty one. He's not twenty three or twenty four. I 104 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: think at those points you're like, well, they're probably for 105 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: the most part peaked out from that standpoint, but some 106 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: of these guys still grow. Who knows, he might grow 107 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: another half inch or something like, we don't truly know, 108 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: and just like he's already got like a thirty eight 109 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: inch vertical. We feel there's room to even improve his 110 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: explosiveness and so other things that you know that he 111 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: got from playing basketball. Some of that short air quicks 112 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: that you have planned that they have helped him. And 113 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: so we liked a lot of things. We think he's 114 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: still got some rawness to his game, yet a lot 115 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: of upside. And you see the contested catches, the basketball ability, 116 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: the back shoulder. He is a very A lot of 117 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: bigger guys, I would explaining to the media can be 118 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: stiff and rigid. He's a very loose athlete to be 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: a bigger guy. And I think people really got caught 120 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: up in the forty time versus play speed you saw, 121 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: I think he had the fastest gauntlet time or whatever. 122 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: You saw more of his play speed actually running tracking 123 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: balls than his true track forty. 124 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: Times and being a kid so young. You're right, And 125 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 4: I remember as a player and during my career with 126 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: me and also players I've seen and guys Brownie's covered. 127 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: We talked about here in the building. You chan't t's 128 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 4: You're going to be a completely different dude at twenty 129 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: four to twenty five, after you've been an adult and 130 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 4: been in the league, So there really is you know, 131 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: you do have to kind of project where you think 132 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: he's going to be, and you kind of get to 133 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 4: know what kind of guy he's like, and you think, Okay, 134 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: he's on the right track and he's got the right 135 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: things in place character wise to carry him there. 136 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 5: Right. 137 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, and listen, we all felt his energy 138 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: and stuff, like he's very young, he's growing into a 139 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: young man, and that's all part of what we want. 140 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: Our culture and then the facilities that we have here, 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: the staff that we have in not only the strength 142 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: and conditioning but our sports performance group with Joe Collins 143 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: and that staff. We think there are a lot of 144 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: things that we can do. You know, the coaches are 145 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: going to coach him on the field. They're going to 146 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: continue to work on releases, which he has actually a 147 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: pretty good release package, but they're going to work on 148 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: more routes than he ran in college, all those nuances 149 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: of the game of actual football. But there's a lot 150 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: of things we can do behind the scenes. And he's 151 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: a competitive dude, and that's one of the things that 152 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: says when you get competitive dudes like that, they're gonna 153 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: they give you the best chance they're gonna want to 154 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: come in when you show them and lay it out. 155 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: This is the trajectory we have for you. 156 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: Give us a little insight on Cole Bishop. Guy is 157 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: really intriguing. For a lot of people. It's hard to 158 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 4: evaluate a position. They don't ever watch you know, they're 159 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: watching the ball unless he makes the tackle. They don't 160 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 4: see what a safety really does. But when you do 161 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: talk to him and watch his film, he seems to 162 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: be out ahead of it. 163 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: Mentally he is. I think that's where you start. This 164 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: is a good athlete. You're tall amount of a guy 165 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: who's in the low four four who are just talking 166 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: about speed. You see his speed, A guy that played 167 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: down in the box at Utah but also showed he 168 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: can go in the back end. We've obviously been spoiled 169 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: here with Mike and Jordan for all these years. The 170 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: versatility in Shawn's defense that he likes the safeties to have. 171 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: It gives him more options, more disguises of blitz is 172 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 3: who's covering who? What are we in? What looks are 173 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: we in? We were even installing a three safety package 174 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: last year with adding Taylor Rapp to the group and 175 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: so having a guy that's not always in the core, 176 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: in the box or always in the deep half. It keeps, 177 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: you know, offenses from being able to get you on 178 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: a mismatch on a guy in here, and Cole can 179 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: match up, you know, with with receiving weapons, whether it's 180 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: a tight end back the receiver down when he's down there. 181 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: And then you're talking about the DNA. I talked about 182 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: it earlier. This guy is super smart, professional habits, his personality. 183 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: I told people all along once I met him, he's 184 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: like Dalton can catered a different position. Coincidentally, I was like, man, 185 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: we were talking about we were talking about Dalton with him, 186 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: but it's really a lot of the same. He's just 187 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: gonna come in yes sir and no sir. I'm gonna 188 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,599 Speaker 3: let my play speak for myself. You know. Keyon's a 189 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: little different. Key is gonna talk a little bit, which 190 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: is part of his swagger into it. Yeah, but we're 191 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: excited to get Cole and we were super fired up 192 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 3: when that opportunity. 193 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: Do you ask him if he shaved yet? I mean, 194 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: I know they called him the baby face assassinate you. 195 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 2: I don't know if that guy's met a razor yet. 196 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: I mean, we talk about a baby face. 197 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he probably hadn't. I mean, he shoot 198 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: again another guy who's twenty one and you know, an underclassman, 199 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 3: and so it's funny. It made me feel all he 200 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: was born on the same day as my kid. Yeah, 201 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: in college. So I was like, geez, this is getting crazy. 202 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: Saturday night, after you wrapped up, you describe your team 203 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: as one in transition and with the roster turnover this offseason, 204 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: we understand why. I know the influx of young leaders 205 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: was important. You drafted four captains, but you also mentioned 206 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: getting players with an edge. First, just for the listening audience, 207 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: describe what a player with an edge is for you. 208 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: And then second, why did you feel you needed to 209 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: increase the edge quotient for this roster? 210 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you listen, not everyone. They all embraced 211 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 3: some form of physicality, right, this is football. It's not flag, 212 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: it's tackle. So everyone understands what comes with that. But 213 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: Steve can tell you, like, there were guys they seek 214 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: the contact. They they get a high off of the contact. 215 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: Others do it because they have to do it to 216 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: do their job. Hey, if i'm there's some safeties that 217 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: want to go get a guy down, and then there's 218 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: some safeties that want to blow you up. And I'm 219 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: not talking about Cole here, but a dog is just 220 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: embracing the physicality of the sport. They're playing to what 221 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: I call the echo of the whistle. They're not looking 222 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: for any boundary. And we can talk about Ray Davis 223 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: like you know, I don't think you'll unless we got 224 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: to stop the clock in a two minute situation. I 225 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: don't think you're gonna see Ray Davis step out of bounds. 226 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: He is going on and I don't care if it's 227 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: a linebacker, a safety, a d lineman. He's gonna bend 228 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 3: it back in there and make them have to get 229 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: him down, and he's gonna see if he can punish them. 230 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: The same as I talked about in the in pass Pro, 231 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: he's not looking to match in me. If you come 232 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 3: in there and you got your pads up and your 233 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 3: chin's up, he's gonna see if he can hitch you 234 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 3: under the chin. 235 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: You're one of the guys that you got later in 236 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: the draft. Javon Solomon, edge rusher, kind of the first 237 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: thing you think is a wow. 238 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 3: I don't know. 239 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: He's kind of a tweener kind of guy. But then 240 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: you kind of read his measurables. The guy's got like 241 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 4: a rangutang are. He's like got arms that are like 242 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: thirty four inches yet so he can really play the 243 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: edge of a defense even though he's not really tall. 244 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 245 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: A good pass rusher too. He seems to me like 246 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 4: a really slippery dude on the edge. 247 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: Very natural pass rusher. You know guys have it or 248 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: they don't. There's guys with measurables can run forties or 249 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: explosive high vertical, but they don't have that innate feel 250 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: or they've got a stiffness. Yes, he's he's just under six' one, 251 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: so he's not as tall as most. If he was 252 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 3: six ' three with those arms in the way rushes, 253 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 3: he'd have gone a lot higher in the draft. But 254 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: he overcomes his height with his arm length. He's got 255 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 3: some natural moves. He's got a feel. Some guys can't 256 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: find the quarterback in the pocket. They get lost in 257 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 3: their guy, and they have this guy. When you watch 258 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: him rush, you can feel he knows when the quarterback's 259 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: stepping up, he knows when he needs to spin back inside. 260 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: He knows when the quarterback's about to bail and he 261 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: can keep going around. He knows when I got to 262 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: use the long arm and try and walk the guy 263 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: back to cage rush a little bit so you don't 264 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: just fall into sixteen sacks. Yes, there's some that happen 265 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 3: the guy rolled into him, but you're not going to 266 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 3: get sixteen of those in a season. And obviously he 267 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 3: had thirty two or thirty three for his career, and 268 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: looking forward to watching him in our system, I really 269 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: thought three four teams would really value this guy high. 270 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 3: But he was still there, and for us, he'd be 271 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: kind of a DPR, maybe even a joker role. 272 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's got that motorcycle lean too when he 273 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: gets around the EDG. It's just really kind of cool 274 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: to see him operate. You described Tyland Grabel Travis Clayton 275 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: as developmental players. We know why Grabiel's still young at 276 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: the position. Clayton's never played the position. I'm not sure 277 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: Clayton falls into this category as an international player, but 278 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: you've had your fair share of late round picks who 279 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: on a veteran roster weren't good enough to make the 280 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: fifty three. You put them to your practice squad and 281 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: then you get guys poached, Yeah, which has to be 282 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: enormously frustrating because then they go to other rosters and 283 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: play on a fifty three and it happened again last year. 284 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: How do you Is there a way that you've kind 285 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: of devised with your personneled? 286 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 6: But how do we get around that? 287 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: And I realized there might be a few more openings 288 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: this year with the roster turnover that you've had. 289 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 6: But I imagine you know, you make that. 290 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: Draft investment, you want to develop them yourself, not for 291 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: somebody else, and yet you know you can't keep everybody. 292 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: I get it, But have you tried to say because 293 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: I got to believe you know, knowing how much you 294 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: value your draft choices, you're like, there's got to be 295 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: a better way to hold on to these guys. 296 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you try your best. Listen, you're always bringing competition 297 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: and depth because you don't know when injuries will strike, 298 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: and you'd rather in my world, I'd rather I'm striking 299 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: preseason while I've still got the roster of the ninety. Unfortunately, 300 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: it doesn't happen that way. I mean, you're like, no injuries, 301 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean the young men we drafted last 302 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: year goes to New England and ends up intercepting us 303 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: in the. 304 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: Game, right that they resigned them. 305 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the that's the worst thing that can happen, 306 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 3: Like geez, and yeah we lost Nick Broker, who you 307 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: know went on Houston's team, And you're right, it is 308 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: that fine line. They're going to put film out there 309 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: in the preseason. You got to kind of play him. 310 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: You want to keep as many maybe this year with 311 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: the turnover, you know, I definitely when we got into 312 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: those fifth, sixth, seventh, was talking, all right, can we 313 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: do we think we can keep this guy if we're healthy. 314 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: We know injuries happened, yes, and at the end, you're right, 315 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: you're the odds of us keeping all ten is probably 316 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: not realistic. But we're adding competition and we're adding depth, 317 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 3: and you know, the cream rise at the top. Hopefully 318 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: if we can't, we can get them back to Pea squad. 319 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: But you know, obviously there's no guarantees. 320 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 4: Well, thanks for coming in. I know you're still signing guys. 321 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: Quintes Cephas yesterday signed another wide out. I mean, you know, 322 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: before you go, what about you know, what are we 323 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: looking at here in the coming days? You're about done right. 324 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're we're still you're never done done. We know 325 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: we have we're in the mid eighties, you know. Now 326 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: adding Quintes, you know, he's a veteran, veteran receiver, had 327 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: some success as a kind of a a Z or 328 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: a slot played inside out. We and our offense kind 329 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: of that number four role can move up and down 330 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. Not a burner by any pace, 331 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: but good, good hands, good instincts. Chip on his shoulder 332 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: after what he's been through with you know, the whatever. 333 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: He's the gambling thing that some of these guys you 334 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: know this day and age that you know, it's on 335 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: their phones and they do it. But looking forward to 336 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: getting him in here and and and getting him on 337 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: the field. But other than that, we'll continue there. You know, 338 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: teams will move on from some guys. I've seen even 339 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: some names this morning that are you know, being purged 340 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: because they were drafted over in the early rounds. So 341 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: we'll continue to monitor that. We've added free agents in 342 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: the past in May and June here and there, so 343 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 3: it's not a rush to get tonight. The goal is, 344 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: you know, by mid June to be right at it. 345 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: What are we gonna take let's take the best ninety 346 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: most competitive group team that we can to Saint John 347 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: Fisher and be ready for you know, a new season. 348 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: Brandon, thanks for the time, he's always thanks for recapping 349 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: the draft with us. 350 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 6: We appreciate it. 351 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: We are going to take a break, but we'll be 352 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: back with more including our topic. Good discussion for you 353 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: at eight oh three, five point fifty on the phone 354 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: lines when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented 355 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back 356 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live on a Tuesday. Our thanks 357 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: to Bill's General manager Brandon Bean for popping in with 358 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 2: us and kind of recapping the twenty twenty four draft class. 359 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: In case you missed it, you can always check back 360 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: after the show is over on Buffalo bills dot com 361 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: or on the Bills YouTube channel if you want to 362 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: hear it back. But yeah, good conversation with him. I 363 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: know he's you know, most gms are happy with their 364 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: draft classes when they're all said and done. I don't 365 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: think I've ever heard a GM come to the podium 366 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: and be like, boy, did we WHI this year? You 367 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: imagine if somebody ever did this so, uh, you know, 368 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 2: Jim Mora, how do you feel about your draft class? 369 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 6: We stunk? 370 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: We get nobody, horrible, we got nobody. 371 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 6: We were never going to say seven straight time. 372 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: Because here's the thing. I mean, all these young guys 373 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 4: can really play, and in the right situation they were, 374 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: they're going to thrive. But not all of them are 375 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: going to be in the perfect situation, and not all 376 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: of them are going to be dropped into a spot 377 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 4: where there is space. 378 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: For them to make the club. 379 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 4: So there's a lot going on in it, and it's 380 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 4: it's a difficult it's a difficult road to navigate. 381 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: I'm telling you. 382 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 4: To get the right guys for your team is difficult 383 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: because a lot of a lot of time, most of 384 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: the time, you just don't get to pick them right. 385 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 4: You got you pick the guy that you picked, But 386 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 4: there are other guys who would have been a better 387 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 4: fit or better player. You know, they're gone. That's the 388 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 4: way the draft is. 389 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 3: It's a. 390 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: It is a lottery. 391 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: So you heard the Bills general manager talk about is 392 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: draft class. And the question we put to you today, 393 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: have the Bills done enough for their offense for the 394 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 2: upcoming season? Eight oh three five point fifty is the 395 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: number to get on board one eight eight eight five 396 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty and we have open lines for 397 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: you there, so we're wide open for your phone calls 398 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: for the rest of the show. We had our guest 399 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: right up front and general manager Brandon Bean, so we 400 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: are wide open up until three o'clock, So feel free 401 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: to chime in, because when you look at it in totality, uh, 402 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: I want to kind of count up the numbers here, 403 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: but essentially the Bills drafted a wide receiver, three offensive linemen, 404 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: a running back, and that was pretty much the slate 405 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: for the offense. You know, the only position on offense 406 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: they didn't draft was tight end and quarterback. So you 407 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: let us know, have the Bills done enough for their offense? 408 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: You heard Brandon say, you know, they'll keep their eyes peeled. 409 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: Someone gets, you know, cut looseer, some veteran falls out 410 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 2: of a tree on some roster that you know drafted 411 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 2: four people at that player's position, and there's a cost savings. 412 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 2: You know, you might see some veteran cuts. We saw 413 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: a couple of today's A Jones got clipped in Jacksonville 414 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: after they drafted Brian Thomas. So there are going to 415 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: be examples like that over the next few days and 416 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: probably week to week and a half, and if the 417 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: right fit becomes available, yeah, they could make a move somewhere. 418 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 2: As you said, as you heard him say, they're at 419 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 2: about eighty four on the roster, counting the draft class, 420 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: and then you'll have the undrafted free agents as well 421 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: when they're officially announced, when everybody is signed to pen 422 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: and paper. So you let us know at eight h 423 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: three zero won, eight eight eight five fifty two five 424 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: point fifty of the Bills done enough for their offense 425 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: for the upcoming season. 426 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 6: Where where do you come down on that? 427 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 7: Oh? 428 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 4: I think so? I mean I was, I mean I 429 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: would have gone. I would have gone into the season 430 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: without Keon Coleman being drafted. I mean I I think Curtis, 431 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 4: Samuel and Khalil Shakir and Kinkaid and those guys are 432 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: you know, are really good. Josh's Josh is a great 433 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 4: equalizer and with Keon Coleman a big rangy athlete, yeah, 434 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: I think they've got enough guys to go now. I 435 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 4: don't know about the guys behind Sam you know, Samuel 436 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 4: Coleman and k and Kincaid and you know, the rest 437 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 4: or Khalis Shakir. The depth is an issue, you know, 438 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: it's nobody's really caught a pass in the NFL behind 439 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: these guys. Now they well, I guess they do have 440 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: some mccollins and the gut in the free agency picked up, 441 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 4: but then there's some question marks in the depth, So 442 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 4: I don't know how much of a hit they're going 443 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 4: to be able to take injury wise anywhere along their 444 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 4: their skill positions offensively. Now they may have enough guys, 445 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: we may find out they've got the dudes. But I 446 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 4: think that is a question needs to be answered, or 447 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: hopefully it will not need to be answered because everybody 448 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 4: will stay healthy. Hard to imagine that you're going to 449 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 4: go through the season without anybody missing any time. And 450 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: those are the questions that have to be answered. 451 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: Still, well, let's get over to the phones at eight 452 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 2: oh three, five point fifty one, eight eight eight, five 453 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: point fifty two, five fifty those are the numbers to 454 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 2: join us, and we lead off today with Joe and Williams. 455 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 6: You know what do you got for us? 456 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: Joe? 457 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 8: Hi, guys, I was listening yesterday to Greg Cosel and 458 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 8: the three of you discussed the Bills draft, and one 459 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 8: player that stuck out was Javon Solomon, the edge rusher. 460 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 8: The way Greg described to me was sort of small 461 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 8: for a defensive lineman. He's six to one I think 462 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 8: two forty six, but he's got real long guards and 463 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 8: he's very quick. I was wondering what your guys thoughts, 464 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 8: if they would if the Bills would try him out 465 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 8: at linebacker. And as far as the Bill's office having 466 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 8: done enough this year, Have the Bills done enough for 467 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 8: their offense. I don't think they can never do enough, 468 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 8: but with the salary cap, I think their hands are tight. Anyway, 469 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 8: I'll hang up and listen to you guys. Thanks a lot. 470 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 6: That's right, Joe. 471 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're never done building your team. You're right, And 472 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: if you can trade a good player out for an 473 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 4: even better player, you're gonna do that obviously, But for 474 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 4: right now, I like where the roster's at to do that, 475 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 4: And for changing a guy's position, I would have say 476 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 4: absolutely not, not absolutely not, but no. You're drafting guys 477 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 4: based on their production and their training and what they've 478 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 4: produced in college. Particularly in the top half of the 479 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 4: NFL Draft. There's there's rarely a guy that you're going 480 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 4: to bring in and say, all right, then we're gonna 481 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 4: make this tight end a wide receiver or vice versa. 482 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: The guys switch positions, sure, but that's at the lower 483 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 4: levels of football, and they could high they could have 484 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: a guy who plays a specific role or create a 485 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 4: role for a guy, But switching positions is extremely rare 486 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: at the NFL level. Extremely rare because it's a it's 487 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 4: a highly technical sport played at a highly intense physical level. 488 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: So you can imagine learning physical techniques when you're in 489 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: a in like a hand to hand combat kind of situation, 490 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 4: changing in and do it again, a completely different set 491 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 4: of techniques because you're either inside the box or outside 492 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: the box, or on the line scrims or off the 493 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, you know, completely different positions. So it's 494 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: rare that they would change a guy's position. At the 495 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: NFL level. It happens maybe occasionally, like corner to safety. 496 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 4: That's a little different, you know what I mean. But 497 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 4: you're talking about something you're completely different, and it just 498 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 4: doesn't happen very. 499 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: Often, right, And I would say, in Solomon's case specifically, Joe, 500 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 2: I understand why you're proposing it because he is shorter, 501 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 2: as you heard Brandon discuss, though the length of his 502 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 2: arms make up for that lack of height. And he 503 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: was a very disruptive player. I mean, this is a 504 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: guy that finished with thirty two and a half sacks 505 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: and forty nine and a half tackles for loss, five 506 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: force fumbles, an interception, and three passes batted down in 507 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: his career. I mean an ultra productive at the line 508 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. 509 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 6: And here's the other thing. 510 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: He only clocked a four seven twoint forty his ten 511 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: yard split, his one six ' five. He's not super explosive, 512 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: and his short area quickness, lateral legility, things like that 513 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: not strengths in his arsenal. So to put him off 514 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: the ball and ask him to drop into space, which 515 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: he virtually never did at the college level, because he's 516 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: getting double digit sacks almost every year. I mean eleven 517 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: two years ago he got hurt and uh or no, 518 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: he wasn't a starter. The next year, I only had 519 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: four and a half, and then last year explodes for 520 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 2: sixteen to lead college football. You're not moving that guy 521 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: away from the ball where I could see him line 522 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: up as a linebacker. Is in a third down obvious 523 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: passing situation. We've seen Sean McDermott in the past deploy 524 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: Matt Mulano as a pass rushing linebacker. When they started 525 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 2: using those three safety looks, they would sometimes use Bernard 526 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: as a blitzing linebacker up on the line of scrimmage. 527 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: They would sometimes use Matt Mullano as a blitzing linebacker 528 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: up on the line of scrimmage, and it was just 529 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: one linebacker on the field and a third safety in 530 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: a dime look. That might be a place where you 531 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: use him as a designated pass rush specialist. As Brandon 532 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: Bean suggested, let's go back to the phones and to 533 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: Gary and Lancaster next. 534 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 6: What's up, Gary, Hey, how you doing today? 535 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 9: Well, we're talking about. 536 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 10: Bugging and playing people into what we need. I think 537 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 10: that's the antithesis of coaching, is you need to take 538 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 10: your players and put them in situations. And I think 539 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 10: everyone wants to replace our team. We want to replace Digs. 540 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 10: You're not gonna replace Digs. It's a different receiver. So 541 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 10: you can't just slap pieces. You need to take the 542 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 10: pieces you have and you redesign stuff. Now, Joe Brady 543 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 10: is a full year. Now off season, it's gonna be different. 544 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 8: And you you. 545 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 10: Can't just look and go, I need another one of these, No, 546 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 10: you really don't. You need to take what you have 547 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 10: and maximize it. And then you just talk that on defense, 548 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 10: same thing. You can't take a player that's never played that, 549 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 10: that kind of a slot position, whatever and put them 550 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 10: somewhere else. We have to take his strength and mold it. 551 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 10: And that's that's the beauty of the draft and the 552 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 10: changing of our coordinators and stuff, is we're gonna take 553 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 10: and they're gonna work together and form a team that way. 554 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 10: Instead of saying I want to I want to X, 555 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 10: Y and Z player in the NFL draft, that's not 556 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 10: how it works. 557 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 4: You're right, you don't. You don't fit players into your 558 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 4: offense or defense. You fit the all and defense around 559 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 4: the skills of your players. You're right, But you're in 560 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 4: a draft. You're picking players that have the widest variety 561 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: of things that they do really well, so you can 562 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: do whatever you want offensively or defensively. That's the kind 563 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 4: of the thought about you know, Keon Coleman and all, 564 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 4: and you know Cole Bishop and all these guys. You're 565 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 4: trying to find guys who can do so much of 566 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 4: everything that are such good athletes. You can ask them 567 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 4: to whatever. Drop into space or come into the box, 568 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: or drop into coverage, or rush the passer, or catch 569 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 4: the ball on a deep route or run the shifty 570 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 4: slot routes you're at. You want players that can do 571 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: all of that really, really well. And there there's some 572 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: of these guys that can do that with a big 573 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: athletic body to boot. So you're trying to get those 574 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: guys because then you can run whatever offense. You can 575 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 4: ask them to do anything they want. They can pull 576 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 4: it off because they're in these athletic freaks. Now, those 577 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 4: guys are unicorns. You don't get Tyreek Hills all the time. 578 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: You don't get Julio Jones all the times. You don't 579 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: get Calvin Johnson's falling off the truck at night. You know, 580 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: you wake up in the morning, he's on your front 581 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: doorstep right for inches. He's six ' five and he 582 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: runs a four to three and he can vertical thirty 583 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: eight inches. 584 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 6: That's he jumped forty five. 585 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: Calvin Johnson was six y five and could jump forty 586 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: five inches in the air, So you know he's in 587 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, those guys don't get dropped off. So, yes, 588 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 4: you're right. We talk about it more so at this 589 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 4: time of year because of the draft and the way 590 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 4: these guys are evaluated, not because that's actually how they're 591 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: gonna you know, they're not gonna plug them into the offense. 592 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: They're gonna build the offense around them. And same thing 593 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: on defense. So the more skills they have, the more 594 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: versatile and the more flexible you can be offensively in defensively. 595 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: We are and we already know that the offense is 596 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of newness to it, you know, 597 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: Joe Brady full time OC and then the new pieces 598 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: that have been added to the past game chiefly. But 599 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: I think here's an advantage for Joe Brady coming in 600 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: on day one. He does not have to experiment to 601 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: see what Curtis Samuel can and cannot do in the 602 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 2: scope of this offense. The reason why is he worked 603 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: with him previously in Carolina for a full season and 604 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: not coincidentally, Curtis Samuel had the most productive season of 605 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: his career under Joe Brady, which is an encouraging sign 606 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: as well. But walking in the door Joe Brady already 607 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: knows what Curtis. Samuel is capable of what his strengths 608 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: are and what you might want to stay away from 609 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: with his skill set. He knows Khalil Shakir intimately, he 610 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: knows what Dalton k and Kid can do. He knows 611 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: what Dawson Knox can do. So really he's got to 612 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: learn Mac Collins, Keon Coleman, and maybe one or two 613 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: others justin shorter. 614 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 6: We probably didn't see a whole lot of last year, 615 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 6: and a couple of others Yi, Shavers and Collins. 616 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: So I think that's a good thing because even though 617 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: there was turnover, I don't think the list of learning 618 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: for the OC who's calling the plays to know what 619 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: his players can and cannot do isn't as long as 620 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: you might believe. And to me, that's that's a benefit 621 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: for sure. Uh, let's go to Butcher on the east Side. 622 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: What's up, Butch. 623 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 5: My guys, my guys, my guys, my guys. I loved y'all. 624 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 5: I love w G I love imas you, I love 625 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 5: all the fans. Thanks so much staking my call. I'm 626 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 5: gonna be real grief and I'm gonna be long, but 627 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 5: I'll be real. 628 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 9: Grief. 629 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 5: Number one is I gotta say this. Prior to February, 630 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 5: we didn't have any money. 631 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 9: It was Brocker. 632 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 5: We were in debt. This guy named Brandon being somehow 633 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 5: miracle lots found money. He cut a lot of name players. 634 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 5: He cut a lot of players that did a great 635 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 5: job for our organization and represented us well on and 636 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 5: off the field. And he found some money. With that money, 637 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 5: he bought that bought. He went in and acquired some 638 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 5: player that filled the cabinets. After that, he prepared for 639 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 5: the draft. We all you see me, Madgie, all of 640 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 5: us paying. Everybody always wanted seven players. Now in my case, 641 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 5: yes I wanted JPJ. Yes I wanted Devonte Swept. Yes 642 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 5: I wanted kool Aid. Like you said, Chris, with you 643 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 5: in the minority, you left right. 644 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 9: It's fine. 645 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 5: I didn't get those names. But guess what I got. 646 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 5: I got a I got a center, I got a cornerback, 647 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 5: and I got detail. That means I'm not looking at 648 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 5: the names and looking at what we need. 649 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 9: The fans out there. 650 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 5: I'm not picking on you guys, the fans. 651 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 11: I love you. 652 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 5: So what I'm about to see it's non disrespect. I'm 653 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: not a disrespectful person is that you guys are out 654 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 5: here complaining, still complaining, whining in the puddle, splashing around 655 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 5: because you didn't get a certain name. Brandon Bean and 656 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 5: his staff filled this organization and gave every pick that 657 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 5: he drafted, We'll make the team. Because he didn't overdraft, 658 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 5: he didn't underdraft. He filled every room in that house. 659 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 5: Everybody got a new piece of furniture to put in 660 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 5: their house, even to undrafted free agents. Now, the thing 661 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 5: about it is collectively, when we still got ten million 662 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 5: dollars coming to the gym, So Congress to Brandon being 663 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 5: in the organization and the draft crew and everybody else, 664 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 5: go take a vacation, take a break, because what we're 665 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 5: doing is we disrespected Josh Allen. And this is why 666 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 5: I say that I'm gonna hang out and thanks for 667 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 5: taking my call. Is Josh Allen is a quarterback that 668 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 5: can make a receiver a household now, and there's no 669 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 5: disrespecting my man Steve. And I know Chris Brown and 670 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 5: you always say all the U s, I gotta keep 671 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 5: picking on Steve because Steve was underdulfed us on the 672 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 5: east side of us and he got into receiver. Ain't 673 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 5: Kelly made him a household. Dang, the same thing with 674 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 5: Josh Allen to these other guys. Yeah, I've been saying 675 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 5: about Shaven and I've been saying about Sugar. I'm not 676 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 5: even going to go back into that. I've been saying 677 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 5: that all the time. Brandon freed him and to mention it. 678 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 5: But anyway, the pointers I make is we don't need 679 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 5: another this season. They closed the deal on Quinton when 680 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,439 Speaker 5: they brought him in and gave him a second chance 681 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 5: in life after coming from Detroit. After that, ladies and gentlemen, 682 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 5: please do me a favor. Let's enjoy what we have. 683 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 5: We probably have one of the best young teams that 684 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 5: we've ever had here. The Brandon Bean new Sean McDermot 685 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 5: and Shawn said, you know what, Brandon, you're my best friend. 686 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 5: We live next door to each other. I'm going to 687 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 5: have to get rid of all these old coaches and 688 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 5: get young teachers. That he did, and yess what he did. 689 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 5: I got young students for these young teachers. I'm just 690 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 5: on coach the football team to manage it. You're going 691 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 5: to manage the organization. I'm a managon team. Let's win. 692 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 12: That's it. 693 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 5: I love you guys. Man, thanks so much for taking 694 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 5: my call. 695 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 13: Thank you. 696 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, buch A couple of things. Yeah, you're right, 697 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 4: I mean they did. They got players at every level 698 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 4: of both sides of the ball, all three levels. And 699 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 4: you're right. People do get caught up in their guy. 700 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 4: They wanted. They wanted Brian Thomas Junior, not Keon Coleman. 701 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: They wanted Xavier Worthy, not Keon Coleman. They wanted Lad McConkie, 702 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 4: not Keon Coleman. I get that, and it's it's that's 703 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: what we all do, right, we all have our guys. 704 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 4: We want to be right, and there is a level 705 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 4: I think once you sit back and take a deep 706 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 4: breath and you start to hear about why this why 707 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 4: this guy not your guy, you kind of become more 708 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 4: okay with it, uh, and you kind of you grow 709 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 4: into it. You're right, Josh does elevate the guys around him. 710 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 4: All quarter all good quarterbacks do. And you're right too. 711 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 8: Uh. 712 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 4: I was a guy standing on the bench watching drinking gatorade, 713 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: and I got in the game and Jim Kelly made 714 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 4: me a household name. 715 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: They can do what you did on special teams kind 716 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: of made you a household name too, but maybe it's 717 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: another story. 718 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 4: So but yeah, but uh, my successive receiver because I 719 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 4: had a quarterback that wanted to throw me the ball 720 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 4: because he wanted to be right, because he was he 721 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 4: wanted me to play wide receiver. And you know that's 722 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 4: the way it works, you know. So I'm I was 723 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 4: telling Brownie this. In between I was telling Brandon Bean this. 724 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 4: This team's gonna be a wagon again. I think they're 725 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna be tough to beat. It's been three 726 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 4: years since this team's been beat by more than a 727 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 4: single possession. There they get beat so infrequently. The losses 728 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 4: have names, you know. I mean, you can pick coming 729 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 4: down to the wire of all these losses that it's 730 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 4: just it's like this month, it's like an inch away 731 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 4: from being, you know, another win for the Bills. It 732 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 4: takes everything an opponent has, plus some help from us 733 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 4: to beat this team. I think it's gonna be a 734 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 4: lot more of the same this coming season. 735 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 6: Let's go to John in Rochester next. What's up John? 736 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 14: Yeah, Hi, thanks for taking my call. Sure, I just 737 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 14: wanted to talk a little bit about Travis Clayton, the 738 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 14: last guy. Yep, I know, I know, he was a 739 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 14: rugby player. Do you think there's a possibility of utilizing 740 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 14: them more and just a tackle because he's used to 741 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 14: having the ball in his hands. His legs are huge. 742 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 14: They remind me of herschel Walker's and I'm thinking maybe 743 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 14: you could use him as a goal line back or 744 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 14: the third down tackle like they used Edwards last year, 745 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 14: and maybe in the fullback position a little bit. I'll 746 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 14: hang up and let you guys talk, and I just 747 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 14: wanted to say things. 748 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think this is what we've got to remember. 749 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 2: John Travis Clayton has a gigantic learning curve in front 750 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 2: of him, and any time spent away from learning offensive tackle. 751 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 6: Stunts his growth. 752 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: Now that's not to say you can't line him up 753 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: at tackle on the goal line and then have him 754 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,919 Speaker 2: leak out to catch a pass. He's used to having 755 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 2: the ball in his hands, and that doesn't take a 756 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 2: lot of coaching or a lot of practice to execute 757 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: that kind of a play. So I wouldn't dismiss something 758 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 2: like that. But this guy and the techniques that he 759 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 2: has to master in a very short period of time 760 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 2: to convince people he's good enough to be on a 761 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: fifty three man roster. It takes a lot because when 762 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: you think about it, just about everybody else on this 763 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 2: roster that has O line next to their name has 764 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: been playing that position for the better part of the 765 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: last five to eight years at least some longer. Tyland 766 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: Grable might be an exception because he played quarterback and 767 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 2: then tight end before going to offensive tackle. This guy 768 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 2: played a completely different sport. I mean, the techniques that 769 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: you have to master on the offensive line against some 770 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 2: of the fastest athletes in the universe, trying to blow 771 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 2: your doors off to kill your quarterback. You better be 772 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 2: polished at this level. So he's got a big learning curve. 773 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and if it, yeah, I would say it. He's 774 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 4: a long shot. But you're right, probably is more versatile 775 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 4: as an athlete than some of the other offensive linemen 776 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 4: we've seen because of his high level of playing another sport. 777 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 4: And you know, it's just it enlarges your skill set. 778 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 4: Rugby players are are used to having the ball in 779 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 4: their hands, are used to having the ball around them 780 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 4: and being and carrying it and getting rid of it. Yeah, 781 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 4: Rugby is a different sport and played at a high level, 782 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 4: and it's a different kind of physicality. As well. I 783 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 4: played rugby in college and it was there is some crossover, 784 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 4: particularly instinctively when you have the ball. It's completely the 785 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 4: opposite of rugby when you don't have the ball, because 786 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 4: the rules are opposite. 787 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 6: So you know, so a lot more stops start to 788 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 6: football than there is to rugby. 789 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 15: That's right. 790 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's a completely different sport. But yeah, there's 791 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,959 Speaker 4: some things that do carry over, and certainly he would 792 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 4: probably be you know, yeah, tackle eligible stuff, you know, 793 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 4: all that thing, and some trick plays all. Certainly he 794 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 4: would be more better. He would be more suited for 795 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 4: that because of his experience handling a ball, particularly a 796 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 4: ball like a rugby ball as opposed to a football. 797 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 4: Uh An American football is much easier to handle than 798 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 4: a right so he'll be able, he'll feel confident in 799 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 4: handling it. So there's that. But that's you know, that's 800 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 4: a that's down the road. You know, you're not he 801 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 4: just you're not keeping him on the roster for that. 802 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 4: He's got to offer more than that. 803 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 6: Let's go to Dan on a cell here. What's up, Dan? 804 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 15: Yeah, it's not about the draft picks. What I want 805 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 15: to know is about the plate clock. Other sports are 806 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 15: smart enough to have a buzzer go on or something 807 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,959 Speaker 15: whistle uh, and that tells him when their play clock 808 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 15: runs out. It is ridiculous to watch a referee look 809 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 15: at the ball, look at the clock, and look back. Besides, 810 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 15: I questioned some of these referees when they do that. 811 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 15: When is the NFL going to grow up and actually 812 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 15: use a whistle so that you don't have to look 813 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 15: away from the ball to know one that play clock run. 814 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing, Dan, You're right. They do give 815 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 4: the offenses an extra half account or a full count 816 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 4: sometimes when the play clock goes to zero, depending on 817 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 4: the right and the official. This all finger quote. The 818 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 4: official is moving his eyes from the play clock to 819 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 4: see the snap, and there's always that gap. The simple 820 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 4: fact of the matter is it's irrelevant what that official 821 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 4: and the play clock because the quarterback could snap it 822 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 4: whenever the clock runs out if he knows he's gonna 823 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 4: get called for it. But because the officials give him 824 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 4: that extra beat, the quarterbacks take it. The offenses take it. 825 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 4: If you start calling them on it, they'll start snapping 826 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 4: the ball right way. It's not anything that is the 827 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 4: league not getting a fact that the that the team 828 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 4: doesn't get the ball off on time. The only thing 829 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 4: they don't care. The only reason the play clock is 830 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 4: there is so that the game can fit inside a 831 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 4: three hour broadcast window. It has nothing to do with 832 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 4: the football end of it. They can snap the ball 833 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 4: early if they want, but the reason they don't is 834 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 4: because they want to see if they can get the 835 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 4: defense to tell the quarterback what they're gonna do. So 836 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 4: it's I get it. It's frustrating for fans to look 837 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 4: at it and see the play clock. Your opponents on 838 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 4: offense and their play clock goes to zero and they 839 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 4: they snap it late. They don't flag it and they 840 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 4: snap it late. It's frustrating, it is, But know this, 841 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 4: It goes the same for both sides of the ball. 842 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 4: And if they wanted to fix it, if they thought 843 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 4: it was really urgent, they would, But I don't think 844 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,479 Speaker 4: it's that high a priority because of what I just said. 845 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 4: They could snap it on time if they really wanted to, 846 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 4: but the quarterbacks are always going to push it to 847 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 4: the limit. That's all there is to it. 848 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 6: Great time for us here, but more of your phone 849 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 6: calls when we return. 850 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 2: Got open lines for you at eight h three oh, 851 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two, 852 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 2: five point fifty draft class is done? Have the Bills 853 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 2: done enough for their offense for the twenty twenty four season? 854 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 6: You let us know. 855 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 2: Next here on one Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, 856 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, you heard from Bill's 857 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 2: general manager Brandon Bean on this show at the top 858 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 2: of the hour, and we're asking you now that the 859 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: draft class is set, have the Bills done enough for 860 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 2: their offense for the twenty twenty four season? Eighth three, 861 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 2: five fifty then number to get on board. Back to 862 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 2: the phones and to Bob and Buffalo. 863 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 6: What's up? 864 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 9: Bob, Hey, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call. 865 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 6: Sure. 866 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 9: How great is it that we get to root for 867 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,959 Speaker 9: the Buffalo Bills day in, day out, fifty two weeks 868 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 9: a year. I thought the draft was phenomenal. You got 869 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 9: a kid first round, second first pick, second round who 870 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 9: has such youthful enthusiasm it's contagious. Can't wait to see 871 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 9: him every week what he's gonna do and how he's 872 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 9: gonna do it. I thought the draft was good in 873 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 9: the sense that they backed up their defense, which most 874 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 9: of our injuries were the last couple of years, you know, 875 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 9: other than drafting a sixty one year old speed speech 876 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 9: your couch potato and I was available, but I thought 877 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 9: it was phenomenal because you got Frank Gordon Junior coming in, 878 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 9: who's going to have an attitude. You got three running 879 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 9: backs that just won't stop running. I can't wait to 880 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 9: watch them again now. I picked him every week last 881 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 9: last year, win or lose. They're still the best team 882 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 9: in football to me. They just didn't win the Super Bowl. 883 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 9: I honestly think that they're gonna be there again. Like 884 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 9: Steve said, and I will shut up and let you 885 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 9: guys talk. Thanks taking a call. 886 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 6: Thanks Bob. 887 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm kind of with you. I mean, it's 888 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 4: face it, it's a It has been and ever since 889 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 4: Josh stepped on the field and Sean McDermott took over 890 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 4: and Brandon Bean started drafting, the team has been an 891 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 4: absolute must watch appointment television for not just Bills fans, 892 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 4: but you saw it last year. They were all like 893 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 4: there were nine nine weeks of the year they were 894 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 4: playing at an odd time, either primetime or four thirty window. 895 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 4: Everybody wants to see these guys play, They're really difficult 896 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 4: to beat. The game is going to be close even 897 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 4: if they don't play well. The other team needs help 898 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 4: from this team to beat this team, and if they 899 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 4: don't get it, it's a runaway and Josh is out 900 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 4: there hurdling people. So it's the absolute funnest team in 901 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 4: football to watch for people who aren't a fan of 902 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 4: whatever team we're talking about, and it's going to continue 903 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 4: to be that way. Brandon Bean does stuff like this 904 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 4: in the draft. He drafts people like it. It never 905 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 4: completely fits your narrative, but we've been, i think, for 906 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 4: the most part, extremely happy with the people who do 907 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 4: contribute from each draft class. And like Brown, he continues 908 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 4: to point out most of the guys they draft get 909 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 4: plucked and some of them are playing for other teams 910 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 4: and they can't even make this roster. 911 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,399 Speaker 3: It's a high bar. 912 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 4: Brandon Being continues to do it, and you've got a 913 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 4: head coach that has If you're going to quantify or 914 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 4: describe the kind of head coach he has been here 915 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 4: in Buffalo, it has been maximizing a roster he has 916 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 4: gotten a lot out of. Certainly he's had players to 917 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 4: work with because the brand of Bean's drafting, but he 918 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 4: has overperformed with a roster that go back to the 919 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 4: first year he got here after a thirteen year drought, 920 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 4: it was a seventeen year drought. In the playoffs for 921 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills, he took a week in roster, made 922 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 4: a couple of trades right before the deadline, and people 923 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 4: accuse the club of tanking, and he got them to 924 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 4: the playoffs with that roster. Truly masterful and so this 925 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 4: because of those three things. McDermott being a maximizer of 926 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 4: the talent on the roster and fitting an offense and 927 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 4: a defense around who he has Brandon Bean refurbishing the 928 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 4: roster and continued getting great players from unexpected places and 929 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 4: you get the guy Josh and the other key players 930 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 4: that they've got. You can't not watch this team. And 931 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 4: to me, even though some of the names have changed, 932 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 4: that has not and it's not going to in the 933 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 4: foreseeable future. 934 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 6: Let's get back to the phones here and we go 935 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 6: to Mark in West senecon X. 936 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 3: What do you got? 937 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 6: First? 938 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 16: Mark, jentlemn, how are you today? 939 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 6: Good? 940 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 16: I got an observation and a question off my observation, 941 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 16: And first of all, I want to say, Brandon Bean, 942 00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 16: unbelievable execution of the draft this year was impeccable. To 943 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 16: come out of that draft with a wide receiver for 944 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 16: your first pick, get the third back, and add a 945 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 16: fourth next year. Absolutely unbelievable execution of free agency and 946 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 16: everything again with no money and filling out the roster unbelievable. 947 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 16: The man is just an absolute genius. He's earned the 948 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 16: benefit of the doubt of every fan, and he certainly 949 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 16: knows more football asleep than I ever know my whole life. 950 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 16: But my observation is this leading up to the draft, 951 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 16: forget to let the national talking heads and that I 952 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 16: don't listen to those guys. But I was led to 953 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 16: believe by yourselves. I don't know if this was a 954 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 16: diversion by Brandon and other local media people, that the 955 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 16: Bills are going to go with a dynamic player receiver 956 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 16: if they could get one first with their first pick, 957 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 16: and they were certainly going to attempt to do that, 958 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 16: somebody who had speed, somebody who was going to bring 959 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,280 Speaker 16: big plays to the offense. And then I was allowed 960 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,840 Speaker 16: to believe a little bit that out of all the 961 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 16: group of guys, even maybe who might have been left 962 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 16: and when the Bills were going to pick that Coleman 963 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 16: was on the bottom end of that, and it's certainly 964 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 16: seemed that And as the way the draft played out, 965 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 16: I was really excited that Mitchell was there, and to 966 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 16: see them that they passed on him three times led 967 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 16: me to believe they took him off their board for 968 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 16: whatever the character reasons or whatever, and that he had 969 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 16: the most talent of everybody that was left and we 970 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 16: didn't go ahead and pick him. Now, I'm not trying 971 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 16: to say anything negative about Coleman. I mean, if that 972 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 16: kid plays as big as his personality, not only is 973 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 16: he going to be exciting and productive, he's going to 974 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 16: be fun to watch. I absolutely loved his interview, so 975 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,280 Speaker 16: I'm open to what he's going to bring to the offense. 976 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 16: But I was led to believe that he was going 977 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 16: to be more on the down down of the list 978 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 16: than at the top for us to pick him. My 979 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 16: question is this, now that we've picked him, is this 980 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 16: a sig know that Joe Brady is going to go 981 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 16: to a less vertical offense, especially with the boundary receivers, 982 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 16: and that he's going to run more crossing patterns with 983 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 16: those guys and more of a mid range to intermediate 984 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 16: to underneath kind of offense with the running game, because 985 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 16: a guy with Coleman's ability size, big hands, catch ability 986 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 16: may be more verse in doing that kind of thing 987 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 16: than I mean, he could be effective running aimlong, but 988 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 16: I don't think that's going to be his game. And 989 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 16: I'm just curious as to what you guys think. Am 990 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 16: I onto something? Am I out in left field like usual? 991 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 16: But again, is that what they're looking at? 992 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 8: More? 993 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 16: And I have nothing against running that kind of offense. 994 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 16: It could be very effective, especially when we got Josh 995 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 16: as the quarterback. So that's my question and my observation. 996 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys have you know that's a good observation, Mark. 997 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll just say that we don't really know 998 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 2: exactly what tweaks and changes Brady is going to make 999 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 2: with the offense as he puts his stamp on it 1000 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 2: as the full time offensive coordinator now, and we're all 1001 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 2: going to try to read between the lines based on 1002 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 2: the personnel that Brandon Bean acquired. 1003 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 8: I know this. 1004 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 2: I know Joe Brady just told the personnel department just 1005 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 2: get me good football players and will make it work. 1006 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 2: So I don't think who they picked was done purposely 1007 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 2: for the kind of offense that Joe Brady may want 1008 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 2: to draw up. Now, I'm not saying they're trying to 1009 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 2: get going to try to put a square peg in 1010 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 2: a round hole, But as Steve said at. 1011 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 6: The top of the show, good coaches tailor. 1012 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 2: Their offensive and defensive schemes around the talents on their roster, 1013 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,720 Speaker 2: not the other way around. And I think Joe Brady 1014 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 2: falls into that category. So no matter who they got 1015 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 2: for him, I think they that he would have made 1016 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 2: it work. Now, all that being said, we know that 1017 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 2: Brandon Bean wanted to diversify his receiving corps, and he 1018 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 2: already had add separators in Dalton Kincaid, Khalil Shakir and 1019 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel, guys that can separate quickly in the route. 1020 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 6: I think he needed size, which we. 1021 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 2: Saw in the form of mccollins last year with Justin 1022 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 2: Shorter this year in round two with Keon Coleman, because 1023 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 2: I think he wants an element of physicality and bullyball 1024 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 2: also in this receiving corps, because different opponents require different 1025 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 2: approaches to win a football game, and I think he 1026 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 2: feels if he diversifies the talent at the receiver position. 1027 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 2: He expands the options that Joe Brady can turn to 1028 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: to try to win a football game. 1029 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're right when you get to see I 1030 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,760 Speaker 4: didn't know what Keyon Coleman was like before I started 1031 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 4: seeing the stuff on one Bill's on the Buffalo Bill's website, 1032 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 4: on our own website. When he's walking around the yellow 1033 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 4: puffy coat, I guess that's going to be a fashion 1034 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 4: statement for Bills fans this year, Right, everybody's gonna have 1035 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 4: a yellow puffy coat. 1036 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 9: But he. 1037 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 4: Seems like the right kind of guy. And certainly if 1038 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 4: there are other guys who I mean, you look, you're 1039 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 4: talking about a d Mitchell. He was the eleventh wide receiver, 1040 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 4: eleventh wide receiver taken in this draft, and. 1041 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 6: He was supposed to be a first rounder. He slid 1042 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 6: all the way to fifty two. And that wasn't for 1043 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 6: no reason. 1044 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 4: That's not for no reason. Uh So all of that 1045 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,400 Speaker 4: stuff goes in and these teams find stuff out that 1046 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 4: we aren't privy to, and and the obviously the Buffalo 1047 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 4: Bills aren't the only ones who had a d Mitchell 1048 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 4: sliding down the board. I don't know whether he completely 1049 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 4: took got taken off the Bills board. I don't know 1050 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,839 Speaker 4: why the Bills liked everybody over Adie Mitchell. I don't 1051 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 4: know ad Mitchell from anything, but there. 1052 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 6: Were character considered, but there was well published. 1053 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 5: But there it is. 1054 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 4: And so uh yeah, that's that's why you got to 1055 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 4: trust these guys who are on the inside of it, 1056 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 4: talking to these guys, getting to know these guys, watching. 1057 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,479 Speaker 6: Film with them and doing the recon and with other people, 1058 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 6: and asking. 1059 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 4: People who work with these guys what kind of person 1060 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 4: they are, and uh, you gotta trust that. You gotta 1061 00:53:59,520 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 4: trust that. 1062 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 2: And that's the one element that people like us and 1063 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 2: the listeners on the outside will never know. And that's 1064 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 2: the difference. Well, why didn't this guy get taken? Why 1065 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 2: didn't this guy get taken? Well, they had character issues 1066 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 2: that we didn't know about because we're not the ones 1067 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,280 Speaker 2: beating the bushes to try to find out their background 1068 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 2: and everything else since middle school. Got to take a 1069 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 2: break here. When we come back, more of your phone calls. 1070 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 2: Have the Bills done enough for their offense? You let 1071 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 2: us know next at eight oh three, five point fifty 1072 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 2: back in a flash here on one Bill's Live. 1073 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: This this one Bills Live presented by call LIGHTA help. 1074 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 2: All right, welcome to hour number two here on a Tuesday, 1075 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve tasking with you one Bill's Live still 1076 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 2: chopping up the draft glass and also asking you at 1077 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 2: eight oh three oh five point fifty have the Bills 1078 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 2: done enough for their offense for the twenty twenty four season? 1079 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 2: You let us know us We have open lines for 1080 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 2: you at eight oh three oh five fifty one eight 1081 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty Nothing but phone 1082 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 2: calls from you the rest of the way here, as 1083 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 2: we had Brandon Bean last hour on the air here 1084 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 2: in studio, so if you miss that, be sure to 1085 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 2: check back on the website Buffalo Bills dot com or 1086 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 2: on the Bill's YouTube channel after the show is over 1087 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 2: and done with. But let's get back to the phones, 1088 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 2: and we begin here with Jordan out in LA. 1089 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 6: What's up? 1090 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 15: Jordan, Hey, guys, how are you good? 1091 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 17: You know, I was listening to you guys talk about 1092 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 17: Travis Clayton earlier and I just had a funny thought. 1093 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 17: You know, it's they drafted him as a as a tackle, 1094 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 17: I guess, and you know, why not just take the 1095 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 17: guy for what he is? I mean, he's six foot 1096 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 17: eight over three hundred pounds, and he's a rugby star. 1097 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 17: Why not line him up as a power back on 1098 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 17: third down with a yard or two to go? You know, 1099 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 17: and Josh is not going to be you know, young forever, 1100 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,799 Speaker 17: so you know, could you imagine lining that guy up 1101 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 17: on the one or two yard line and let him 1102 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 17: power it in for a touchdown. I mean, if you 1103 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 17: think about it, I mean, I don't think anybody is 1104 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 17: that big. He's probably twice the size of Derrick Henry. 1105 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 17: You know, when you think about it, it's kind of comical. 1106 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 17: I mean, the guy's legs are bigger than Brownie, you know. 1107 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 17: So yeah, I think I think lining him up and 1108 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 17: ramming it down the defensive throat for two or three 1109 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 17: yards I think is pretty realistic, given he's a rugby player. 1110 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 17: So I'd like to hear your thoughts on that. 1111 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's certainly. I'll give you imagination. 1112 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 4: It's intriguing. I get it. He's used to handling the ball, 1113 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 4: He's used are running with the ball in his hands. 1114 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 4: He comes with probably some of those instincts as well 1115 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 4: with the with the ball in his hands. It wouldn't 1116 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 4: be foreign to him. 1117 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 6: I get it. 1118 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 4: It's it's fun to think about, and maybe they will. 1119 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 4: But he's you know, he's he's trying to play offensive 1120 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 4: tackle in the NFL. And and I sometimes, yeah, you're right, 1121 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 4: sometimes guys get pigeonholed because of certain things, either their 1122 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 4: speed or there in this case, his size. You know, 1123 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 4: nobody's ever had a six foot eight inch running back. 1124 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 4: I mean, you'd have guys on this roster who are 1125 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 4: an entire foot shorter than him playing the same position. 1126 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:52,520 Speaker 4: If you if you put him back there, someday, someday 1127 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 4: somebody will have a running back like him. Maybe, but 1128 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 4: I don't know that he's the guy. I'm I'm all 1129 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 4: about it. I give the guy a shot. If he 1130 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,320 Speaker 4: wants to try it, and he's up for it and 1131 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 4: can do it, you can. But he, let's face it. 1132 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 4: You says twice the size of Derrick Henry, he's also 1133 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 4: twice as slow. He's half as fast. Derrick Henry could 1134 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 4: scoot at his size. Travis Clayton cannot. I mean, for 1135 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 4: a big mind, yes he's fast, but he's not fast 1136 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 4: at an NFL level. In you know, with the ball 1137 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 4: in his hands, you know you've got half your coaching 1138 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 4: staff that could outrun the guy. So that's just the 1139 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 4: that's the point of it. He's just not fast enough 1140 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 4: to carry the ball effectively. Certainly. 1141 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 6: I get it. 1142 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 4: Short yardage goal line where you just you just got 1143 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 4: to run a couple of yards. You just get to 1144 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage and get get the yard. I 1145 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,080 Speaker 4: get that. But you've got to offer a lot more 1146 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,280 Speaker 4: than that to get a roster spot at an NFL level. 1147 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 4: You gotta like cover kicks, you gotta you know, short yardage, 1148 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 4: goal line back, you gotta be, you know, an offensive tackle. 1149 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 4: You've got to You've got to bring a lot to 1150 00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 4: the table to get on the roster. 1151 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 6: I mean long range. 1152 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 2: His career is going to be as a pass protector 1153 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 2: and a blocker in the run game. I mean that's 1154 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 2: what his skill set offers. And I realize his previous 1155 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 2: skill set in his previous life playing rugby might entice 1156 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 2: you to go in a different direction. I think if 1157 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 2: you want to make it a bit part of what 1158 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 2: he is, that's fine in goal line situations. But he's 1159 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 2: gonna have a ten year career if he's able to 1160 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 2: understand the techniques of playing offensive tackle. 1161 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 3: I believe. 1162 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 2: It's interesting, but I don't think it's what's going to 1163 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 2: give him a career that has some longevity to. 1164 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 6: It here in the NFL. 1165 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 4: If you're going to carry the ball as an NFL player, 1166 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 4: you got to be fast. And I get it, short 1167 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 4: yardage and goal line all that sounds like you don't 1168 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 4: really need to be that fast. You got to be fast. 1169 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 6: Let's get back to the phones and to Rob out 1170 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 6: in Connecticut. What do you got fir ust. 1171 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 18: Rob Good afternoon, Chris, Good afternoon, Steve. First off, I 1172 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 18: would like to say that, you know, as a a 1173 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 18: avid caller and fan listener, I have to say that, 1174 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 18: Butch is probably one of my favorite callers to listen to. 1175 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 7: Uh. 1176 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 18: He always puts a smile on my face. So keep 1177 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 18: doing what you're doing. But if you're listening, and the 1178 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 18: other thing for you, Steve, before I get to the 1179 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 18: question of the Bills is did you play scrum, half, 1180 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 18: prop or wing when you played rugby? 1181 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 4: I played full back. 1182 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 18: Oh, you're a full bay all right. I was a 1183 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,959 Speaker 18: winger with the Doylestown Rugby club. 1184 01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 4: I was anyway, Yeah, I was MVP tournament in nineteen 1185 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 4: eighty five. 1186 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 6: There you go. 1187 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 18: Nice. Nice. Yeah. My father played with the Doyletown rugby 1188 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 18: club and I was fourteen years old playing with men. 1189 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 18: They didn't have high school rugby at the time, so 1190 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 18: I was a weak side wing. Anyways, my big thing 1191 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 18: is I'm I'm very, very happy with the old line. 1192 01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 18: I like what they did with the center picking up 1193 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 18: this center. That gives us definitely a great depth. But 1194 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 18: I mean, for me, it's the question mark of who's 1195 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 18: the number one receiver? And I think a lot of 1196 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 18: other fans are feeling that same way. That's just a 1197 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 18: huge question mark. I like the receiving core that we have, 1198 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 18: and I know that the Bills are going to work 1199 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 18: with these guys a lot, but who's the number one? 1200 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 18: That's the big question for me with that. Guys, thank 1201 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 18: you very much. Always a pleasure listening to you. 1202 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 6: Keep doing what you're doing, no problem. 1203 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 2: This might be unconventional, but I think the number one 1204 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 2: is Dalton Kincaid right now. I wouldn't be shocked if 1205 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,160 Speaker 2: he has one hundred and ten hundred and fifteen targets 1206 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 2: by the end of the season. I could see him 1207 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 2: being target number one in this offense going forward, and 1208 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 2: that and the only reason I say him is because 1209 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 2: none of us really truly know what Curtis Samuel's role 1210 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 2: is going to be. But I think if Curtis Samuel 1211 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 2: is in one, he could be two and then Shakir. Yeah, 1212 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 2: so you know, Keon Coleman can walk in the door 1213 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 2: and even if he's a starter, could be optioned four 1214 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 2: on most plays, which I don't know. To some might 1215 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 2: sound crazy, but I don't think you would rule that 1216 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 2: out as a possibility. But I think that's to be determined. 1217 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 2: I think this is a coaching staff that since they 1218 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 2: walked in the door, has been all about earning your 1219 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 2: time on the field, your spot in the pecking order, 1220 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 2: and so I believe that they're gonna let it play 1221 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 2: out through the spring and in training camp. And if 1222 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 2: you've proven to be a guy that can get open, 1223 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 2: can make plays that your quarterback trusts, you're gonna get 1224 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 2: a lot of looks. 1225 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1226 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 6: I don't think. 1227 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with Curtis Samuel being the 1228 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 4: number one or Keon Coleman being the first option. But 1229 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 4: kin Kaige's going to get a ton of targets, so 1230 01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 4: is Khalil Shakir. I think those and Curtis Samiel's remains 1231 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 4: me seen. But this is a guy, Curtis Samuel, who's 1232 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 4: put together some really nice seasons playing with guys like 1233 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 4: Taylor Heinike. 1234 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 6: Taylor Heinikee, Teddy Bridgewater. 1235 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 4: I mean, he's never he's never been in an offense 1236 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 4: like the one he's going to play in this year. 1237 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 6: And he had sixty catch seasons with guys like that. 1238 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 4: So I'm I'm thinking Curtis Samuel is going to feel 1239 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 4: like he's he's getting a nice drink of water after 1240 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 4: a long dry spell. I think it's going to be 1241 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 4: a lot easier season for Curtis Samuel, you know, coming 1242 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 4: here to Buffalo and working in this offense. I think 1243 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 4: he's going to be refreshed. 1244 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 6: So I'm. 1245 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 4: I'm fine with that the way it is, you know, 1246 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,440 Speaker 4: and Curtis Samuel can be my number one. 1247 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,800 Speaker 2: Right And look, I'm sensing from fans because nobody knows 1248 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,880 Speaker 2: the same kind of angst they had last year when 1249 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 2: they said who's going to replace Tremade Edmonds And we 1250 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 2: still didn't know going into the regular season because Terrell 1251 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 2: Bernard was injured and missed the entire preseason and then 1252 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 2: he stepped into the lineup, and very quickly all was 1253 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 2: right with the world because that guy made more plays 1254 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 2: than anybody on the I voted for him for Defensive 1255 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,919 Speaker 2: MVP last year, first year starter. So put your faith 1256 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,440 Speaker 2: in the coaching staff that they're going to make the 1257 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 2: right decisions in terms of that pecking order. 1258 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 6: To Bill in Orlando, next, what do you got for his? 1259 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:22,439 Speaker 3: Bill? 1260 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 7: Hi? 1261 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 12: Bell, I mean hi guys. I love you guys, A 1262 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 12: long time Bill's fan and also the guy that watched 1263 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 12: from nineteen sixty one on. So I have this question. 1264 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 12: I cannot think of the watch on all. We needed 1265 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 12: a receiver, Why didn't they take Rice's son instead. 1266 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 5: Of this guy? 1267 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 2: Take who Brendan Rice? Yeah, clearly not as high a 1268 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,920 Speaker 2: prospect on their board. And if I remember right, he 1269 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 2: went pretty late in the draft Day three. 1270 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, way he did. But take over a rugby player. 1271 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 2: Stand that, Oh you're talking about Travis Clayton. I see 1272 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 2: what you're saying. I thought you meant over Keon Coleman, 1273 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 2: the other receiver. 1274 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I get it. 1275 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 2: I think when you get late in the draft as 1276 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 2: a general manager, and we heard Brandon address this because 1277 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 2: I talked to him about late round picks getting poached 1278 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 2: off his practice squad the last several years, and he said, 1279 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 2: it is a discussion that we have if we're healthy, 1280 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 2: does this guy have a chance to make our roster? 1281 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 2: And that is a question that they ask themselves as 1282 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,439 Speaker 2: they're getting closer to their pick in the sixth round 1283 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 2: and the seventh round, because if you have two players 1284 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,919 Speaker 2: at different positions that are relatively even, and you feel 1285 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 2: that there's more of an opportunity at one position than 1286 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 2: the other, you're picking that position if it means keeping 1287 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 2: him on the roster right. Otherwise it's a wasted pick, 1288 01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 2: and that's the last thing they want to do. Maybe 1289 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 2: some of that came into play with that because people 1290 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 2: are like, I can't and look, I was a proponent 1291 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 2: as much as anybody for them drafting two receivers. 1292 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 6: They didn't do that. 1293 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 2: But what did they do the day after the draft? 1294 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 2: They signed Quintes Cephas, who's playing in the league for 1295 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 2: three years, which to me is every bit as good 1296 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 2: as drafting a guy in the seventh round. I mean, 1297 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 2: you have a guy that's shown he can play in 1298 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 2: the league, So. 1299 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you're they didn't draft Brendan Rice the same 1300 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 4: reason thirty one. Other teams didn't draft Brendan Rice. Not 1301 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 4: that he's a bad kid or but there's just better 1302 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 4: options for them at other positions. That's all there is 1303 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 4: to it. 1304 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 11: I get it. 1305 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:32,840 Speaker 13: I don't. 1306 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 4: I don't know what kind of career Brendan Rice is 1307 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 4: gonna have. I'm sure he's gonna have a very nice life, 1308 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 4: and he's got a lot going for him. But I mean, 1309 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 4: why did you pick Brendan Rice and not you know, 1310 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 4: Ryan Ryan Floornoy, you know, I mean he was picked 1311 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 4: right just ahead of him. And why is Brendan Rice 1312 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 4: different than Jaden Davis, who has picked the exact pick 1313 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 4: after Brendan Rice. I mean, just I get it. Jerry 1314 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 4: Rice is the greatest receiver ever, you know, lace it up. 1315 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 4: But you know, there's a reason why Brendan Rice was 1316 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 4: available in the seventh round. 1317 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 6: Yeah to Judy in Buffalo, what's up, Judy? 1318 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 5: Okay? 1319 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 19: I have to admit I was kind of naive. I 1320 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 19: thought the Bills could make a big splash at twenty eight. 1321 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 19: You know, now I'm thinking about it. That was really 1322 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 19: out of contention. I liked the way they did the draft, 1323 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 19: and here's the reason why to be in contention. Any 1324 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,560 Speaker 19: team has to win ten or eleven games this year, 1325 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 19: and that's what the Bills had got to do. I 1326 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,720 Speaker 19: think they have the talent to do it. And furthermore, 1327 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 19: when you talk about what we have, it comes down. 1328 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 19: Football comes down to this. You have to make ten 1329 01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 19: yards every three downs, and I think the Bills can 1330 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 19: do that. The object is to get close enough to 1331 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 19: either kick a field goal or score a touchdown. At worst, 1332 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 19: you make the other team go eighty ninety yards and 1333 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 19: maybe something can happen in the meantime. So the point 1334 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 19: is you need a team that can win ten to 1335 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 19: eleven games, and I think the Bills have preserved that. 1336 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 4: All right, fair enough, fair enough, I'll say this to 1337 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 4: You're right. We talk around it a lot in the 1338 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 4: lead up to the draft, Browning, and I do this 1339 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 4: as much as anybody. You pretend or you think like 1340 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 4: your team is really going to get you know, we 1341 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,200 Speaker 4: need to trade up into the top ten. We need 1342 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,880 Speaker 4: to do because innately we think the twenty eighth pick 1343 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,960 Speaker 4: of the draft, really you can't find that guy. And 1344 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 4: we saw the riding on the wall Brian Thomas Jr. 1345 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 4: The closer and closer we got to the draft, the 1346 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,320 Speaker 4: further and further away he got right, and he did 1347 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,640 Speaker 4: make it to twenty three. But if you heard the 1348 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 4: first segment of the show, we found out how expensive 1349 01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 4: it was to move up in this draft, where teams 1350 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 4: were turning down three ones to move up front with 1351 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,040 Speaker 4: two first rounders included. This year's two first rounders from 1352 01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 4: Minnesota had the eleventh and the twenty third pick. They 1353 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 4: were wanted to move up into the top five and 1354 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 4: added next year's first rounder, and the answer was no, 1355 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 4: that's how hard it is to move up in this draft. 1356 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,640 Speaker 4: So the further and closer and closer you get to 1357 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 4: this draft, the more you realize the twenty eighth pick 1358 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,000 Speaker 4: is like and Brian are were like, well, we might 1359 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 4: move up a few spots, but you're gonna get like 1360 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 4: the Bills. You're gonna get the fourth, fifth guy, sixth guy. 1361 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 4: And the Bills got I think the guy they wanted 1362 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 4: out of the guys after Brian Thomas Junior and a 1363 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 4: Doonzay and Neighbors and Harrison. They got the next guy 1364 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 4: they wanted after that because they figured they had an 1365 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,120 Speaker 4: idea handle on what other teams were gonna take, so 1366 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 4: they traded back twice and picked up some picks and 1367 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,920 Speaker 4: still got their guy. And that's kind of what the 1368 01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 4: draft is. And Judy, you're right, and I'll say this too. 1369 01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 4: We talked about it. I was talking about this in 1370 01:09:58,439 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 4: the office the other day. 1371 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:00,040 Speaker 6: The Bill. 1372 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 4: I'm thinking they're gonna be a first a lot of 1373 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 4: first downs team. And you can say, well, and I 1374 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 4: want to be a big play team. I get that, 1375 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,799 Speaker 4: but you've got a guy like Khalil Shakir and Dalton 1376 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 4: Kinkaid with Curtis Samuel, I mean, they're gonna be able 1377 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 4: to make some first downs and with the offensive line, 1378 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 4: they've put together. 1379 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 3: Good grief. 1380 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 4: I was saying, maybe every third first down statistically, wouldn't 1381 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 4: it be nice if the Bills handed it off twice 1382 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 4: first and ten, Now it's second and four. Now it's 1383 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 4: first and ten again, and he handed it off twice. 1384 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 4: Just not all the time, but man, oh man, then 1385 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,679 Speaker 4: you put that where you got number seventeen taken snaps 1386 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 4: and the defense is going, man, he's gonna throw it 1387 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 4: all over the yard or he's gonna run it on 1388 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 4: us again. That is an enormous amount of pressure this 1389 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 4: offense can put on people. And I'm not saying they 1390 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,599 Speaker 4: should be a run first offense. No way, but man, 1391 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 4: to have that in your back pocket with these weapons 1392 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 4: around it that can just catch the ball wherever he 1393 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,720 Speaker 4: throws it. Man, oh man, I think it's we may 1394 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,160 Speaker 4: lead the league in first downs. We were very high 1395 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 4: in it last year. 1396 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,360 Speaker 2: Bills were third in the league and first downs per 1397 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 2: game first in the league and third down conversion rate. 1398 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 2: So it's a Judy's point, you're gonna do a damn 1399 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 2: good job and they're gonna win ten games doing that. 1400 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 4: Maybe way more than that. I mean, the Bills get 1401 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,479 Speaker 4: beat so in free. I mean they had six losses 1402 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,560 Speaker 4: last year, well plus the playoff loss, but been in 1403 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 4: the regular season when they were struggling, flopping around. They 1404 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,640 Speaker 4: it is so hard to beat them. Every loss has 1405 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,720 Speaker 4: got its own name. I mean, goodness. I mean, we're 1406 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 4: talking about this heroic kick in Philly in a rainstorm. 1407 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 4: That's the only way Philly's got a chance to beat him. Yeah, 1408 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 4: you know, I mean over time in Tampa, can. 1409 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,599 Speaker 6: They help them because they missed a kick of their own? 1410 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,800 Speaker 4: And oh my god, it goes on and on. I mean, 1411 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,720 Speaker 4: this team has to help you if you're gonna beat them. 1412 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,880 Speaker 6: Let's go to Selly in Buffalo. What's up, Selly? 1413 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 11: Hi Brownie, Hey, Steve, how are you good. I'm a 1414 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,599 Speaker 11: little tired of the narrative nationally and locally that somehow 1415 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 11: we handed the chiefs of Xavie Worthy as if it 1416 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 11: was our responsibility to keep them from getting a safety Worthy. 1417 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,759 Speaker 11: If Brandon Bean wanted him, he could have taken him. Okay, 1418 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 11: And I agree with Steve. I think we got our guy. 1419 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 11: After the first four we're gone, and we got a 1420 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 11: third that we didn't have, And you know, no one's 1421 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 11: asking the chiefs why did you give it those a third? 1422 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 11: You know, I think some people are acting like he's 1423 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 11: the next Turry Kill, which maybe he will be, but 1424 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,960 Speaker 11: he could also be the next Cardivious Tony or sky 1425 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,240 Speaker 11: Moore or whoever. Right, So I think we got to 1426 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 11: wait and see how it rolls out. But there's a 1427 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 11: lot of beating that drum that somehow we made a 1428 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 11: mistake because now the Chiefs have Worthy, And I just 1429 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,040 Speaker 11: wanted to get your thoughts on that. 1430 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I said this the other day, and I can't 1431 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 2: remember who was on the Daily Show or during our 1432 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,640 Speaker 2: draft coverage when we were on the live stream But 1433 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 2: what Brandon Bean said after Night two of the draft 1434 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 2: basically solidified for me the whole framing of why they 1435 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:07,160 Speaker 2: traded down. When they traded down, Brandon Bean essentially admitted 1436 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 2: that they had more players with second round grades than 1437 01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 2: they had with first round grades in this draft class. 1438 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,880 Speaker 2: To me, that's an indication that he saw the best 1439 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 2: value in this draft on Day two in the second 1440 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 2: and third round. What did he not have going into 1441 01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,479 Speaker 2: the draft a third round draft choice. So I think 1442 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:33,760 Speaker 2: that he looked at the value on the board, looked 1443 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 2: at the depth of the receiver class, said look, I'm 1444 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,639 Speaker 2: down at twenty eight already, I can move back five 1445 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:45,639 Speaker 2: picks and I can get three Day two choices instead 1446 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 2: of one, and I can still get a receiver that 1447 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 2: we need. 1448 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 4: And he did it. 1449 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 6: So to me, if. 1450 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 2: Anybody's got issues with that, I don't know that you 1451 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,599 Speaker 2: fully grasp the value of a draft, and it could 1452 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 2: be different from one year to the next. And I'm 1453 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,600 Speaker 2: not saying there wasn't elite talent in this draft. There was. 1454 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:07,680 Speaker 2: I don't think Keon Coleman's too far off from it, 1455 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 2: just in terms of elite physical traits and stuff like that. 1456 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 6: So for my money. 1457 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 2: Trading back was the right play this year because it 1458 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:21,519 Speaker 2: was evident to me that the Bills, GM along with others, 1459 01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 2: saw the true value and meat and potatoes of this 1460 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 2: draft in rounds two and three. 1461 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 4: Let me say this, BRANDI and I go round around 1462 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 4: that both of us seem feel a little bit. I mean, 1463 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,160 Speaker 4: the one thing we got right in this whole draft 1464 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 4: thing is that we felt like Xavier Worthy was not 1465 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,640 Speaker 4: the guy for the Bills because he's too small, Like 1466 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 4: you go. You know, we've seen Isaiah McKenzie come through, 1467 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 4: even Deontay Hardy last year. Now I think Bills have 1468 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 4: got kJ Hamler on their roster. Now Deontay Hardy. I 1469 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 4: think back in the in the past, like guys like 1470 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,639 Speaker 4: Gerald McNeil, back when I played Roscoe Parish, Roscoe Parish, 1471 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,360 Speaker 4: really white Shoes Johnson, all these guys that were little 1472 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 4: and they had flashes. And I'm not saying, I'm not 1473 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,719 Speaker 4: saying Xavier Worth he's gonna go to Kansas City and disappear. 1474 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:14,080 Speaker 4: He's basically what you're gonna see is a new version 1475 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,880 Speaker 4: of Isaiah mackenzie gonna he's gonna flash, He's gonna have 1476 01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,600 Speaker 4: a play here and a play there. Then he's gonna disappear, 1477 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 4: and then he's gonna show up and you're gonna say, 1478 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,080 Speaker 4: we why can't why can't he do that like day 1479 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 4: to day? Why can't you do that today like he 1480 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,760 Speaker 4: did last week and the next week? Why can't he 1481 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,840 Speaker 4: keep doing that? I can't tell you why. All I 1482 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 4: know is it's a reality. The guys that are really light, 1483 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,560 Speaker 4: they don't break tackles. They're not as fast at this 1484 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 4: level as they were at the last level, and they 1485 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 4: get swallowed up. There's a ton of them out there 1486 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 4: that have had moments, but that's what they are. They're 1487 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,160 Speaker 4: fleeting moments, and they give you an idea of why 1488 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,519 Speaker 4: they're intriguing. But I'll say that I told a buddy 1489 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,160 Speaker 4: of mine yesterday. You know, they said, the chiefs, the chiefs, 1490 01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 4: the chiefs, they got this guy, the chiefs that were 1491 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,120 Speaker 4: chasing the chiefs. I go, listen, never interrupt your enemy 1492 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 4: when they're about to make a mistake. And I'm one 1493 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 4: of the guys that thinks they did. Now they haven't 1494 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,160 Speaker 4: made too many of them now they've drafted. Well, I'm 1495 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 4: not getting in the way of this one. That I 1496 01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,479 Speaker 4: think it is. I think it is but they may, 1497 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 4: they may prove me and history wrong, but I have 1498 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,920 Speaker 4: it's it's it's been a long time coming, waiting on 1499 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,519 Speaker 4: a guy of that physical stature to make a lasting 1500 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 4: impact on a team. 1501 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 2: Have the Bills done enough for their offense for twenty 1502 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,600 Speaker 2: twenty four? The draft class is set? You let us 1503 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,880 Speaker 2: know at eight oh three zero, five point fifty one 1504 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 2: eight eight eight five point fifty two, five point fifty. 1505 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,800 Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but we lead off 1506 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,280 Speaker 2: with Mark and Tonawanda. When we return here on One 1507 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colt of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 1508 01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,640 Speaker 6: All right, back here on One Bill's Live. 1509 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 2: On it two, say Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, 1510 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 2: talking about whether or not the Bills have done enough 1511 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 2: for their offense for the upcoming twenty twenty four season. 1512 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,320 Speaker 2: In the wake of the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. 1513 01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 2: Back to the phones, we go into Mark in Tonawanda. 1514 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:13,400 Speaker 6: What's up Mark? 1515 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Just to that 1516 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,960 Speaker 13: last caller, and I mean, you guys are kind of 1517 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,200 Speaker 13: pumping me up a little bit about the pick, But 1518 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 13: it's just a matter of who for me with with 1519 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 13: letting the Chiefs get Xavier Worthy, and the thing is, 1520 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,479 Speaker 13: he checks off a ton of boxes for the Bills. 1521 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,400 Speaker 13: He really does those swing screen passes that Digs just 1522 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:39,640 Speaker 13: couldn't seem to thrive under under Joe Brady. Whether it's 1523 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 13: age or what have you, but he really does check 1524 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,080 Speaker 13: off a lot of boxes. And I feel like it's 1525 01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 13: like a defeated feeling. You know, It's like you catch 1526 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 13: your girl out on a date with somebody else and 1527 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 13: then you got to pay, you got to pick up 1528 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 13: the tab. 1529 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 20: That's how I felt. 1530 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:59,320 Speaker 13: And you know, this team has owned you three times 1531 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 13: in the playoffs, says sent you home. And to just 1532 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,720 Speaker 13: diss that to them, I mean kudles to Brandon Bean 1533 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 13: for having the stones to do that, because I don't know, 1534 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 13: it's it's tough to do against Andy Reid and those guys. 1535 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,840 Speaker 13: I'm gonna listen to your thoughts, but yeah, I just 1536 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 13: feel defeated. I don't know, I feel just bland about it. 1537 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,640 Speaker 4: I don't don't get caught in my advice. Don't get 1538 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,760 Speaker 4: caught up in the Chiefs and how they're doing it. 1539 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 4: They got different set of problems. When the Bills have 1540 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,120 Speaker 4: we got our own guys. We have the Bills and 1541 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,280 Speaker 4: Brandon Bean and John McDermott. Do you build your team 1542 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,479 Speaker 4: as best you can for you don't worry about how 1543 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,519 Speaker 4: those other teams are doing. And now, certainly the Chiefs 1544 01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,479 Speaker 4: have got it going on and they don't make very 1545 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 4: many mistakes. But I'll say this, if you believe they are, 1546 01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 4: don't get in their way. In fact, you know, hey, 1547 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 4: make the trade with them, let them take that guy. 1548 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:49,639 Speaker 6: I don't. 1549 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:54,519 Speaker 4: You can't build your team looking at somebody else's roster. 1550 01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 4: That's all there is to it. You can't build your 1551 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 4: team looking at somebody else's roster. So just do your thing, 1552 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,280 Speaker 4: build it the way you want to build it, have 1553 01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,560 Speaker 4: faith in the way you're doing things, and know that 1554 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,800 Speaker 4: you're going to be successful at some point. So I 1555 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,640 Speaker 4: get it. The Chiefs are hard to look at for 1556 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:20,240 Speaker 4: Bills fans, But don't start trying to build your team 1557 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 4: by tearing theirs down. 1558 01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Brandon said it too, like you got to 1559 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:30,639 Speaker 2: focus on your team and what's best for your team, 1560 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 2: and what was more important than who the heck the 1561 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 2: Chiefs were drafting was getting three Day two picks, not one. 1562 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,000 Speaker 2: That's where they saw the best value in the draft. 1563 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,760 Speaker 2: So to turn one pick into three on day two, 1564 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 2: where they had more players graded than they had in 1565 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 2: round one. To them, was better value and more beneficial 1566 01:19:55,200 --> 01:20:00,280 Speaker 2: to the club. So instead of taking Kean Coleman at 1567 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 2: twenty eight and then picking once at sixty and being 1568 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,400 Speaker 2: done until day three, they picked Keon Coleman at the 1569 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:14,360 Speaker 2: top around two got cole Bishop and Dwyane Carter. 1570 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,880 Speaker 6: So to them, it's a win for the Bills. 1571 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,160 Speaker 2: You guys are thinking too much about how it helps 1572 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,559 Speaker 2: the Chiefs and you're not thinking about what the hall 1573 01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,559 Speaker 2: was for the Bills in the process. Three players three 1574 01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 2: in the top one hundred. So and that's the difference 1575 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,840 Speaker 2: which you've and guess who's not picking at ninety five 1576 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,719 Speaker 2: Kansas City, right. 1577 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 4: And you'd think two if if the acid test is 1578 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,880 Speaker 4: for yourself and all, you may have different answers for this, 1579 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,000 Speaker 4: what would you have done have the Bill stayed at 1580 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,400 Speaker 4: twenty eight, picked Keon Coleman and the Chiefs pick Xavier 1581 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:57,439 Speaker 4: Worthy at thirty or thirty two? Would that change anything 1582 01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 4: for you? Maybe for some of you, well maybe you 1583 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,799 Speaker 4: had your height, your eyes set on on Xavier Worthy 1584 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 4: because he was the fastest guy. Okay, it uh getting 1585 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 4: trading him, getting the assets and getting the guy they wanted. 1586 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,280 Speaker 4: I'm I'm I think you gotta be okay with it. 1587 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,280 Speaker 4: Certainly the Bills are and they're the ones whose jobs 1588 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,120 Speaker 4: and reputations are on the line, and they're the ones 1589 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,320 Speaker 4: who have to play with the roster they're building. So 1590 01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,720 Speaker 4: I'm I'm willing to go with what their judgment is that. 1591 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,240 Speaker 4: And you know, in just the brief conversations we have 1592 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 4: with Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, those guys are they 1593 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,920 Speaker 4: are grinding it man over these guys. They knew, they 1594 01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,120 Speaker 4: know a lot of things about all of these players 1595 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,000 Speaker 4: that that they take to the draft room and use, 1596 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 4: so stuff that we've been talking about a lot. We 1597 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,479 Speaker 4: don't know what they feel about the draft picks that 1598 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,000 Speaker 4: we're gonna pick this year, in this draft class. We 1599 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,800 Speaker 4: don't know about all the the Donzas and the and 1600 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,880 Speaker 4: the Harrison juniors, and the Brian Thomas juniors, and the 1601 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,439 Speaker 4: Keon Coleman's and the Lad mcconkey's of the whole name 1602 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 4: to all the lists. We don't know what they think 1603 01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,519 Speaker 4: about those guys. And in fact, we don't even know 1604 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 4: what they think about the guys that are already here 1605 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,519 Speaker 4: and that's all that matters. So we can do what 1606 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 4: we want. But I think and when push comes to 1607 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,640 Speaker 4: show not that we have much of a choice. We 1608 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,360 Speaker 4: kind of have to trust what those guys do with 1609 01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 4: their judgment and knowing what they know. 1610 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 6: To Alex on a sale next, what's up, Alex? 1611 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 7: Hi, good afternoon, gentlemen. You guys hit it on the head. 1612 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,320 Speaker 7: I'm looking at this as we took we moved up 1613 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 7: forty five spots and pushed the chiefs to go down 1614 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,599 Speaker 7: and we got our third. Everybody's looking at the first round, 1615 01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,880 Speaker 7: those five to five spots, and just like you said 1616 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,479 Speaker 7: before before we picked up, the call was we could 1617 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,599 Speaker 7: have got Keyan Coleman and they could have still got worthy. 1618 01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,840 Speaker 7: But instead we went up from one thirty third to 1619 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,240 Speaker 7: over ninety five overall, and we took a third round 1620 01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,879 Speaker 7: from our rivals. So we weakened their position and strengthen 1621 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:55,559 Speaker 7: ours for five spots. 1622 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,600 Speaker 15: And I'll take that trade every day. I just I 1623 01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:58,200 Speaker 15: want to say that. 1624 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,120 Speaker 6: We'reving Coleman over Exuat. You are worthy any day too. 1625 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 6: I will too. 1626 01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, I do I would too. I'm 1627 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,760 Speaker 4: and listen Brownie and I might both be wrong about it, 1628 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 4: but I doubt it. And we have not seen the Chiefs. Listen, 1629 01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,560 Speaker 4: nobody's perfect. Nobody drafts perfectly every year. Nobody is. But 1630 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,560 Speaker 4: the Chiefs have been doing a fantastic job in the 1631 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,360 Speaker 4: last few years. Yeah, Now, I don't think. I think 1632 01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,720 Speaker 4: this might be the first mistake, first false move we've 1633 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 4: seen him make. 1634 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 6: Well since Clyde Edwards Hilaire. Well, there also wasn't a first. 1635 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 4: Round there you go. So they do make him once 1636 01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,760 Speaker 4: in a while, and you know, hopefully the Bills can 1637 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:43,519 Speaker 4: turn it around and make them pay for this one. 1638 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 4: I don't know, but I like the I would absolutely 1639 01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,600 Speaker 4: have taken our guy ahead of theirs even if we 1640 01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,599 Speaker 4: had that you with no trade or anything. 1641 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,200 Speaker 6: To Elliott in Rochester, what's up Elliott? 1642 01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 21: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call real quick. Remember 1643 01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 21: how we put in to the talking about the Bills 1644 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 21: window closing. Do you think we could do that about 1645 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 21: the Xavier Worthy trade soon? 1646 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,040 Speaker 6: I'm happy to put a moratorium on it by the 1647 01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:08,959 Speaker 6: end of this week. 1648 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:09,679 Speaker 15: Right, Yeah. 1649 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,080 Speaker 21: So, and then the other thing I just wanted to 1650 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:16,960 Speaker 21: talk about was Travis Clayton, the prospect of rugby player. So, 1651 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 21: first off, Steve, awesome, I know you played rugby college. 1652 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 21: I played at Cortland State, so shout out Courtland and 1653 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:27,479 Speaker 21: with the Rochester Ardvarts, but played fly half in flanker. 1654 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,360 Speaker 21: But Steve, you know this, and Brownie you probably know too. 1655 01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,599 Speaker 21: But I don't think a lot of the listeners might 1656 01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:37,400 Speaker 21: not realize that in rugby there's zero blocking component. I mean, 1657 01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,840 Speaker 21: with the exception of a mall and the pushing in 1658 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 21: a scrum. It's an entirely different skill set to come 1659 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,439 Speaker 21: to the NFL and play tackle, left tackle, right tackle. 1660 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 21: The Eagles did a great job developing Jordan Mylotta, but 1661 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,040 Speaker 21: outside of that traditional tackle role, and you kind of 1662 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 21: touched on it a little bit. I remember someone called 1663 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 21: a few years or a few months back and ask, 1664 01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,519 Speaker 21: you know, what's that new cutting edge thing that the 1665 01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,320 Speaker 21: Bills need to develop, kind of like they did with 1666 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:09,479 Speaker 21: the high tempo and hurry up offense back in your day. Steve, 1667 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,360 Speaker 21: you know, what are the options for the Bills to 1668 01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,880 Speaker 21: maybe put this guy in the backfield and block or 1669 01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,040 Speaker 21: if you're sure handed, to maybe even run those Just 1670 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,759 Speaker 21: find a new way to gadget in some like tackle 1671 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,559 Speaker 21: eligible stuff and you know, just wanted to pick your 1672 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:24,360 Speaker 21: brain on that. 1673 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:24,840 Speaker 9: Guys. 1674 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:25,880 Speaker 21: Thanks for taking my call. 1675 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's interesting. We talked about a little bit 1676 01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,000 Speaker 4: in the last segment. He he does have some skill 1677 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,040 Speaker 4: and some comfort with probably with the ball in his hands, 1678 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,479 Speaker 4: because all rugby people know, all rugby players kind of 1679 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,479 Speaker 4: handle the ball. Anybody can run with the ball, and 1680 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,560 Speaker 4: you're right. The thing about rugby, for those of you 1681 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:43,320 Speaker 4: who don't know, rugby's a game where the guy with 1682 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,120 Speaker 4: the ball has to be the point of the spear. 1683 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,280 Speaker 4: He has to be ahead of everybody the ball running, 1684 01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:52,400 Speaker 4: can't have any interference in front of him. He has 1685 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:57,120 Speaker 4: to run by himself through the defenders, so there is 1686 01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,120 Speaker 4: no blocking. There is no front interference. You know, you 1687 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,160 Speaker 4: don't have. You don't pull guys in front of him 1688 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 4: and have him block guys out of the way so 1689 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,280 Speaker 4: he can run freely. It's just the opposite that the 1690 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 4: ball has to go first and your teammates all have 1691 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:16,920 Speaker 4: to follow you with the ball, So that fundamentally negates 1692 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,320 Speaker 4: any need for any of these rugby players to know 1693 01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,240 Speaker 4: how to block guys. They don't have. They don't know 1694 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,320 Speaker 4: how to do it. It's not part of their game. 1695 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,280 Speaker 4: It's it's against the rules in fact, so. 1696 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,040 Speaker 6: And you're not just blocking forward, you're blocking reverse. 1697 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,080 Speaker 4: That's a problem, and that's a problem for new guys 1698 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,920 Speaker 4: to the sport. Now, conversely, a guy like you know, 1699 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:44,800 Speaker 4: a guy like this Clayton, he has some skill with 1700 01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,600 Speaker 4: the ball in his hand, he is used to it. 1701 01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 4: But conversely, in the NFL, everybody on the field who 1702 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:58,439 Speaker 4: handles the ball can outrun anybody, you know. I mean 1703 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 4: even the slow guy. They can outrun anybody you know 1704 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 4: just about And you gotta be one of those guys 1705 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 4: to handle the ball at the NFL level. You're not 1706 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,160 Speaker 4: gonna hand it to a six ' eight, three hundred 1707 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,880 Speaker 4: and five pound guy just because he's big, because there's 1708 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,439 Speaker 4: not only will he take three steps, there's gonna be 1709 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,880 Speaker 4: eleven guys hanging on him because they're all they can 1710 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,200 Speaker 4: all catch him, and they're all gonna be running hard 1711 01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,560 Speaker 4: at him. So he's not gonna get to run like that. 1712 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,680 Speaker 4: And you know, certainly they can block for him, but 1713 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 4: he can't outrun anybody. And that's that's an issue, that's 1714 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 4: a real problem. So I'm intrigued by it as much 1715 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,200 Speaker 4: as anybody is. His comfort with the ball his skills. 1716 01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,599 Speaker 4: All of that is fun to think about. But he's 1717 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,519 Speaker 4: gonna play offensive tackle for a reason. 1718 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 2: Break time for us here, Try to squeeze in a 1719 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 2: phone call when we come back here on One Bill's Live. 1720 01:27:50,520 --> 01:28:11,000 Speaker 2: Stay with us, all right, One final segment here on 1721 01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,160 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live on a Tuesday. Got to squeeze a 1722 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,880 Speaker 2: phone call in. Let's go to Tim in North Carolina. 1723 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:16,960 Speaker 2: What do you got first, Tim? 1724 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,280 Speaker 20: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Squeeze me in. 1725 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,840 Speaker 20: At the end of the segment here, I just wanted 1726 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,400 Speaker 20: to say I just listened to Brandon Bean on the 1727 01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 20: Pat McAfee show, actually, and he had a lot of 1728 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,599 Speaker 20: good things to say, So definitely checked that out. If 1729 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,080 Speaker 20: you guys didn't, they were kind of on at the 1730 01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,400 Speaker 20: same time you guys just were. But Darius Butler on 1731 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,160 Speaker 20: the show said something really cool at the end that 1732 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 20: kind of reminded me that Keon Coleman, if you would 1733 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,639 Speaker 20: have said at the start of the college football season, 1734 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 20: Keon Coleman into even in the first month, probably would 1735 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,160 Speaker 20: have been a top ten draft pick. And the idea 1736 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,479 Speaker 20: that he ran slow at the combine. While it is 1737 01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:50,839 Speaker 20: true Brandon Bean even said it himself to Pat McAfee. 1738 01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,160 Speaker 20: He said he absolutely loves it when guys kind of 1739 01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,080 Speaker 20: mess up a little bit at the combine because it 1740 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,200 Speaker 20: makes their draft stock fall. So what else are you 1741 01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,400 Speaker 20: going to do when you're picking twenty eighth or thirtieth 1742 01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,240 Speaker 20: every year. I just wanted to start off by saying 1743 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,000 Speaker 20: that I do think. 1744 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 15: The Bills did. 1745 01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:05,960 Speaker 20: I do think the Bills did enough with their offense 1746 01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,559 Speaker 20: this year. And I'm even excited about the two guys 1747 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,960 Speaker 20: that came after key On Coleman. I love that they 1748 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 20: addressed the defensive line, get guys in the pipeline there, 1749 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,880 Speaker 20: and then also Cold Bishop because I definitely don't want 1750 01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,680 Speaker 20: them to get into a groove of turning over the 1751 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,920 Speaker 20: safety position every single year. So I want to hear 1752 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:21,200 Speaker 20: you guys. 1753 01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:22,080 Speaker 15: Thank you so much. 1754 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem to Yeah, we had Brandon being here before. 1755 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,920 Speaker 2: He actually went on to Pat McAfee show today, so 1756 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,000 Speaker 2: listen to that if you missed it. 1757 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 6: At the beginning of the show, we had him HoTT live. 1758 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:31,760 Speaker 4: We had to get out so he could go do that. 1759 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:33,719 Speaker 4: So yeah, he was making the rounds. 1760 01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, Coleman is a guy that plays much 1761 01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,639 Speaker 2: faster than he times. I think it's going to surprise 1762 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:43,320 Speaker 2: some people, maybe even some defenders in the NFL, hopefully 1763 01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 2: for touchdowns. So you see, that's it for us today 1764 01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,839 Speaker 2: here on a Tuesday back with plenty more tomorrow. 1765 01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,040 Speaker 6: We'll see it at one p m. 1766 01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 12: Three