WEBVTT - Where Alexis Bellino went wrong? A candid conversation. 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:05.160 Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings, 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.039 the King of Reality TV and one of the most 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:12.680 sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.880 years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.400 the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:24.720 entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:35.160 moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.320 Ray drops on today's episode of Reality with the King. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:40.320 First of all, Happy New Year. 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.280 I've missed you guys so much, and I hope you 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.479 all had a wonderful, safe, and prosperous holidays because I 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:48.760 know that I did. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.800 Yeah, honey, Okay, back to business. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.520 So on today's episode of Reality with the King, I'm 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:59.560 coming at you guys with an exclusive. I'm chatting with 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:05.880 Election Billino formerly Okay Breaking News, formerly of the Real 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.920 Housewives of Orange County as she and I had a 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.400 conversation on her podcast. 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.200 Called Going Rogue. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:19.120 So Going Rogue is Alexi Milino's new podcast that you 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.280 can find wherever you get your podcasts. She and I 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:28.600 are having a conversation about her decision to first of all, 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:34.039 join the Real Housewives of Orange County and how she 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:38.679 felt when she received the phone call as to why 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:44.959 she was not asked back. Yeah, so we talk about 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.520 that and we get to lots of things. So without 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:52.360 further ado, here is my conversation with Alexis Billino. 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.680 Hey, guys, Alexis Billino here. I am here on a 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:01.240 very fun day just to clear the air and get 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.320 some new gossip out there, some things that none of 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:08.040 you have heard before. And I'm here with my friend 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.560 Carlos King, who you know. I think he's going to 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:12.840 have some good insight for me. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.840 Carlos, alexis so good to see your Daphace. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:18.560 Hey, honey, how are you. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.000 I've got how's it going. I'm so excited for you. 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.400 Congratulations or join the pod world? 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.160 Uh, thank you, thank you. This is the This is 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.400 definitely dipping my feet in very fast, but with one 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.040 of the best. So thank you for joining me today. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:34.880 No, thanks for having me. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.240 Okay, first of all, the Kathy Hilton party, Let's just 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.000 get that out of the way, because is that not 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.079 the most amazing experience. 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.040 Honey, It was so much fun and it was nice 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:46.600 just to be a. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:47.959 Mocks your peers. 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.760 Do you know what I mean, like people within your 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:54.160 industry who kind of just has so much respect for 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.960 the art of this John and Robbie Carr reality television, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.200 because it's a tough gig to have, so to be 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:04.280 a mocks the reality elite, to be celebrated, to have 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.880 Kathy Hilton be the grand hostess that she is, and 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.639 to see you and John, I had a really really 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:12.120 good time. 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.240 You well, you were the best dressed. I'm not saying 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.560 that just because I'm trying to like by bar like 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.960 even over John, I'm sorry, babe, but you yeah, you were. 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.640 And I'm like, Okay, I wonder was that was that 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.400 coat last season or this season or what it? What 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:26.720 was it? 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.480 It was Louis Vuitton, right, it was a little biton 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:30.280 coat that was. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.840 I couldn't take my off of it, and it was listen. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.000 I I went to London for a day in September 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.160 and when I walked in, you know how, like sometimes Alexi, 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.840 you walked to a store and you know how, like 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.480 the associate are like, is there anything you're looking for, 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.360 and You're like, I'm actually browsing, you know, And I 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:51.520 actually was browsing. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.640 Girl. I saw that. 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.880 Call and you're like the heavens opened. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.040 Oh girl, and I said, I have to have it. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.120 I tried it on and I'm like, let me just 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.240 buy it. So I bought it in September, and I 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.400 kept saying to myself, you gotta find the perfect occasion 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.280 to wear it, Honey, Kathy Helton's party, Honey's the perfect occasion. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.880 I start shopping for her a gown for her dresser 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.680 or a dress for her event, like in August or September, 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:22.520 like I'm I'm always looking because it is the party 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:22.920 of the year. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:23.320 Yes. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.680 And then the other thing was you like your energy 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.560 when you come around is just so infectious. Do you 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.279 see people flocking to you? Like, did you notice that 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:33.720 at all? 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.400 You know I did, And I'll say this, it's such 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.400 a compliment to hear that, So thank you, Alexis. 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:39.720 I am a people person. 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:44.200 I really do love people, and I am of the people. 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:48.279 So whether you're a celebrity or not, I give the 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.719 same energy to anybody that I either meet for the 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:56.120 first time or I'm a fan of and listen, I 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.400 tell people all the time, I'm a fan and a 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.279 student of reality TV. So it's nice to meet someone 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.800 like you. It was nice to meet. I mean I 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:06.240 did meet Emily and Gina. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:10.520 That's okay. Hey, you know we're all we're all work associates. 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:11.839 We're all in the same business. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.400 And why I have been you guys are best friends. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:15.520 Shut the front door. 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.440 We are not best friends. I never said that. Don't 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.440 don't put words in my mouth, Carlos to. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.440 You the concept, Oh what do you mean? 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:29.000 Oh yeah, oh got you? Okay, No, but when you 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:30.840 went to piggyback on what you were just saying, I 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.159 feel like being in that environment, like John and I 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.839 have been so judged this season and so, you know, 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.839 just the vitrial hate that we've had, it was so 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.280 nice to have so many people come up and be like, 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.960 we understand l we get it. We know this as TV, 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.520 we know that this was So I did leave that 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.680 party feeling like America can hate us, but at least 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.800 the people that were there that work in this industry 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.040 get it and are like, Okay, you had to take 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:55.760 one for the team. It was a bad season whatever, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:57.080 So that let me. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.839 Stop you there, Let me stop you there. America doesn't 0:05:58.880 --> 0:05:59.200 hate you. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.480 And this is what I want to tell you, as 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.320 somebody who has been doing Housewives since two thousand and 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:05.800 eight starting Atlanta Housewives. 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.240 And this is the way before social media was a thing. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:14.120 Social media represents two percent of America right of the world, 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.880 not just Americans, the world at large, just because there's 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:23.640 people on social media who are in competition to leave 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.400 the best comment, and by the best, I mean the 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:27.719 worst comment. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.320 Yeah, because they have to one up each other. 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.640 And I never want you, Alexis, or any of the 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:41.360 girls or guys on reality television to assume for a 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:46.760 millisecond that these comments represent the world at large. I 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.400 tell people all the time, when you go out into 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.960 the real world and you interact with people, nine times 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.719 out of ten, you're not going to run to people 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.760 who have that same you know, hate that they do 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.640 online because it is not so. 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.760 We haven't had one were you. We haven't had one 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.680 person out out in the world wherever we're traveling or 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.040 wherever we are, we have you know, everyone always comes 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:10.560 up and says, I love you, you were my favorite this 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.440 season everyone. I think that that just comes out of 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.120 people's mouth because they don't know what to say to 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:17.600 you when they see you feel like they mean but 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.120 they don't know, they don't know they don't. I know 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.360 they don't. And I'm okay, look, I am not here 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.200 to get my ego coached. Okay, I know I am good, 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.440 but but it is it is just a weird. It 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.280 just felt really good to be at that party. It 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.680 really did, and to have people say we get it, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.120 we understand because they all are in the industry. They are, 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:35.760 and Kathy does. Last year she brought in snow like 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.480 this woman does not put like real snow. Okay, Ice 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.400 was all over it was. It was the real deal. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.600 So anyway, that was amazing. But I do want to 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.160 ask you, and I want you to be completely honest, Carlos, 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:47.880 and if you hurt my feelings, it's okay. At the 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.480 end of the day, I know that you, I know 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:54.000 who you are, and I appreciate your truth behind this, Okay. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.200 So I want to ask you, what do you think 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.160 I could have done this season that would have possibly 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.040 allowed the viewers to like actually connect from my story? 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.440 What did I do that made them disconnect so much 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:05.880 from me? 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:11.200 You came across too hard in your defense of John. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.040 I would if I were you the first episode when 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.600 you came in looking gorge and you told Shannon, there's 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:22.840 a door, shannaa door, and you defended John. That would 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.000 have been the end of it. And what I would 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.200 have done is said Shannon as a woman. I need 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:29.960 you to know that you and I don't have an 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.440 issue because I did nothing to you. I Alexis Belino, 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.600 did not do anything directly to you, Shannon ba Door. 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.280 I didn't date you, hon to sleep with you. 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:40.040 I don't know you. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.280 Yeah, we don't know each other like that, Like, I 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.240 don't know you. So I understand that the guy I'm 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.160 in love with and I'm seeing that you two have 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:47.880 an issue. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:48.720 So guess what. 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.960 I'm gonna let you two fight that battle because the 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.600 battle is not mine, it is yours, right, And I 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.800 would have left it there, And then I would have 0:08:55.960 --> 0:09:00.319 I would have definitely used more of my cameras time 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:02.960 to get to know the girls, because I will say this, 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:07.000 I if I was her producer or friend, I would 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.840 have said, how amazing would it be that you and 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:15.160 Shannon kind of become friends? Like, like, what what a 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.360 great surprise would that have been if you use that. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:19.800 Opportunity to get to know her? 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.840 Because I'm gonna tell you something I did Atlanta Housewife 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.120 Season four, right Marlo Hampton came on the show. Ninnie 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.439 Leaks obviously was like the face of that particular franchise. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:34.120 Long story short, it was alleged and Marlow Hampton had 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.200 a boyfriend that allegedly Nini Leaks was like seeing at 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.160 the time while she and Greb were going through divorce. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.840 So everybody thought like, oh my gosh, marlow and Nini 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.040 about to be the odds. And the best thing Ninny 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:49.560 Leaks did she befriended Marlowe and then shocked the cast, 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.599 and it's the reason why Marlon Hampton became a housewife. 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:57.439 So I would have definitely did the I would have 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.760 done the most shocking thing, which was like, hey, maybe 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.000 me and Shannon could be friends after all, and. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.240 I appreciate that, and in the perfect world that might 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.640 have been able to happen. Let me give you a 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.079 little background and then tell me how, because this is great, 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.920 This is great advice, and obviously Hideesight's twenty twenty. When 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:15.560 you look back, you're like, Okay, could have, should have 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.280 would However, I was in a knowing situation. I feel 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.520 even hearing you say what you just said, because I 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.880 do not have you know, I don't wish ill on anybody, 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.600 even my worst enemy, anyone, I don't wish any ill 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.680 on them. I was going in optimistic that we could 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.200 be amicable and do our job, which is work together 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.599 in a group of women. She was never going to 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.040 have any part of that, by the way, I think 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.000 she went in the season saying, I will never talk 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:40.560 to her. I don't care. I don't want to film 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.760 with her. She felt with the least amount she possibly could, 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.200 I asked for constant sit downs with her. Never would happen, 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.200 just to smooth it over, because I could see I 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.000 could see the wear and tear on the women's faces 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.199 for trying to be friends with me and friends with her, 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.360 and knowing that they didn't really dislike either of us. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:57.160 They just didn't know they were put in a really 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.720 bad position too. So in my mind, I'm like, let's 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.760 try to just be amicable, do our job, and get 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.240 through the day, and at the end of it it 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.200 is John in your battle. However, the first meeting I 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:07.960 had with her where she asked to speak to me, 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.520 I said, okay, that was when I've said there's the door, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.400 Shandon ba door. Three things came up that she had 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.920 like they cut it down to the one. There were 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.720 three other things, and so I sat there for twenty 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.120 five minutes just listening, listening, listening, and I'm like, Okay, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:21.719 oh my gosh, let's get to the elephant out of 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.360 the room. Let's just squash it now. And so, yeah, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.440 that was hard. It was hard. I was also nervous. 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.280 I was also getting eaten up by her at the moment, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:31.680 and I was also just tired of it. I'm like, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.880 this isn't the real problem. So in hindsight, you are 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.840 absolutely right. I should have probably just said, Okay, I 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.520 know you're hurting. I am not. This is not easy 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:41.480 on me either, you know, like it was not easy 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:43.440 for me to do any of the filming that I 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.600 did this season. Carlos. The other part to that, So 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.440 that's one part. The other part to that is I 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.480 would go into the scenes, and you, being a producer, 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.120 can appreciate this. I would go in thinking, not going 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:53.839 to mention his name. I have so much more to 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.559 talk about. I would connect with the other women. I 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.400 would find out about their children, I would find out 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.600 about what was going on. We would talk about real 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.199 life things happening, and then lo and behold one of 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:03.840 the women would have to bring up his name, and 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:07.320 there were so many misconceptions about him the entire season, 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.400 and so many lives that were said, what would you 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.520 do if that was your the person you love? And 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.080 what I've learned one of my downfalls is when I love, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.600 I love hard and I am loyal to a fault. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.280 And this defending John came to my own detriment. I 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.240 get that I lost in the public, the world of 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.680 public opinion. I get that the court of public opinion, 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.240 but I also wanted to live authentically and also wanted 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.960 to really film an authentic show. And so if people 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:36.240 are constantly talking about him other castmates when I'm supposed 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.080 to not be talking about him and I'm really trying 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.880 not to, then how do you handle that moving forward? 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.000 Just for any other reality person or anything like, how 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:45.040 do you move past that? 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.240 They can only use what you give? Right? 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.720 So I always remember that they can only use what 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:55.319 you give. If Emily or Gina or have our camera 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.280 brought up John, I would say to them once again, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.199 he is not I hear to defend himself now. And 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.679 the more you repeat that, the more they're going to say, well, 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:05.720 this shit is unusable. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:06.679 And we have to move on. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.680 And that's how you take your power back, right, That's 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:10.320 what I did wrong. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:11.760 That's what I did wrong, because I would do that 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.800 once and then it would keep going, and then I 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.080 would give in and then I say, okay, now I'm mad, 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:17.760 and now y'all are really taking me off, and so 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.240 then it would happen, and that's you're absolutely right, that's 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.040 where I okay, yeah. 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's the reason why I mean, look, 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:25.280 la la la la la la la la. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.600 Look, it's the reason why you have someone I'm gonna 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.920 be very honest with you. Shannon played the game very 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:35.240 well this season, very well this season because obviously I 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.280 think everybody went in thinking like, oh my gosh, I 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.800 had a dui and let's focus on that and let's 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.000 see what's going on. And we're seeing the same situation 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.760 happen on Pertoma with Karen Huger, another person who got 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:51.840 a dui. What's been interesting about Shannon and Karen situation 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:56.800 is rightfully, so, the cast members have questions, but I 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.560 think when you go so hard, I'm not saying you 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.800 did this to do you why, by the way, I'm saying, 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.440 when this is more of a tamor thing that I. 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.360 Told her about. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.800 Right when you're so harsh to somebody dealing with that, 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.800 at some point, it's like, guys, get them a break. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.400 And I think Shannon did a good job this season 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.080 making sure that she showed and I'm not saying it 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:22.520 was real or not. I don't know Shannon, but Shannon 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.000 did a great job in the season showing her runerability 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.280 and emotion and and to the point where I even 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.120 told Tamar, and I said this on my own podcast, 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.720 I felt bad for Shannon. I felt Tamara was so 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:39.680 hard on on on Shannon that I gave Tamar grace 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:43.440 by saying this, alexis, Tamar has seen things that we haven't. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.600 They were actually best friends, They went on tour together, 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:51.160 they hung out together. Unfortunately, us, the audience, we can 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.880 only judge what we see, and when it came to 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.440 Shannon and Tamara, that's why a lot of us was 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:03.120 on Shannon's side when it came to you and Shannon, Shannon, 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.520 I'm gonna give her her credit. She did a great 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:10.040 job at making sure to showcase the run ability of 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:14.560 this alleged loan and things like that. We listen, you 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.840 could be a Shannon fan or not, we all believe 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.480 John in terms of the the details of it. I 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:25.560 believe John's details for sure. Right the part that came in, 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.280 it felt like it was two against one, and and 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.760 that's why the audience decided to sway. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:32.640 More in Shannon's side. 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:33.560 Got it? 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:50.800 Yeah, Wow, yeah, child, we are just getting started. This 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.120 is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:55.720 get back into the show. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.720 And I mean when I sit back and try I 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.040 played this through in my mind hundreds of times, and 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.080 I still come back to the fact that like I 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.360 just don't know. I mean, I just can't. I can't 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:09.800 put a foot in my I mean like I can't, 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:11.840 I can't put a muzzle on myself. If I get 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.640 to the point where I'm just like okay, enough to enough. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.280 And that's something I truly need to work on, Like 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:17.880 I need to learn to just go. And I wish 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.600 now I would have done that. I never even thought 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.320 about just sitting back and going that's between you and John. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.320 I'm just sitting there going his name. He's getting brought up. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.400 He's not here just to say anything. I'm his only voice. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.800 I'm the only thing he had where if I had 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.240 sat back, maybe it would have it would have all 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.520 just panned out completely differently. But like I said, that's 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.920 neither here nor there. We can't go back. So the 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.480 other thing I wanted to ask you is what do 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.840 you think, like, what's your true feeling about the final 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.360 scene that came then after? 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.000 So I thought I was very confusing and I did 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:55.000 not understand it. So listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, Linda, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.760 this season of the Housewives Bors County season eighteen was 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.360 the best season in Orange County history. 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.480 I loved it. 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:09.119 I never thought the Brooks alleged cancer situation would be 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:13.040 topped because that was such dramatic, great television. I never 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.440 thought the season where Gretchen had her first season, I 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.919 want to say the season three or four whatever, that 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.560 was a great first season. And for Gretchen and for 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:27.560 Tamor to emerge as like a badass, this season topped 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.960 both to me because it was a great display a balance, 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:32.639 you know. 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.800 I thought every girl clocked in. 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.000 I thought Emily and Gina had their best seasons ever, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.639 and I thought Heather de brou had a great season. 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:42.760 I thought everybody. 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:46.040 Clocked in right when it came to the reunion and 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.480 I'm gonna get to the ending scene. When it came 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.680 to the reunion, I said this on my podcast. I 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.080 thought Emily was was fighting for her life. I felt 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.760 like she was auditioning for Tomato. And taler Banks said 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.960 I have two cars left in my hands, and one 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.080 of you girls would be America Next Time Model, and 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.200 Emily said, well, bitch, I would be America Next Time lawyer. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.000 And I felt that she was so hard on you 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.879 and was just so like unlikable to me, and I like, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.000 I like Emily, but I detested her performance on on 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:20.119 the reunion. So then I was like, okay, fine, great reunion, 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.760 all three parts. I'm here for it. Then it was 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.240 the final scene and I'm like, well, what the F 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.840 is this? Like, what'll be watching here? And then as 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.560 I was watching and I'm like why is this important? 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.480 And then I'm watching it something Yeah, I was like, 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:36.560 it's done. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.000 I don't need this. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:43.000 And then it hit me and I said to myself, Okay, okay, 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:49.880 I think the choice was definitely two things were happening 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:50.639 in that scene. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:51.080 To me. 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.560 Number one, I felt like I felt that it was 0:18:55.600 --> 0:19:00.400 an opportunity to show that we're off friends. We all 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:05.560 love each other, Shannon and Tammer have made up, Heather 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:10.960 looks great, and we're all best friends. So come join 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.320 us next season where you get to see that this 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.840 show is a show about friends. 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:17.359 Right. 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:21.320 It was like very Jennifer Anison, Courtney Cox, and Lisa Kudro, do. 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:21.800 You know what I mean? 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.040 It was very much like we're friends. Must see TV 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:26.399