WEBVTT - “I MIGHT DOWNSIZE TO A VAN” 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.320 Hello, Hey, how's it going? Hey? 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:03.480 What's up? Man? What's your name? 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.519 Oh? Gary? 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:10.080 Gary? Gary? Gary? Gary? I think, Uh, I think I'm 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:10.840 gonna just call you. 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:12.480 I think I feel like I should just call everyone 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.480 caller because I forget everyone's names and it's supposed to 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:19.119 be anonymous anyway, you know, some I'll just call you 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.279 a caller from now on, maybe unless I changed my 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.880 mind at some point. Whenever I feel like it, call her. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:28.520 What's up? What'd you want to talk about today? 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.720 Oh? Nothing's just been trying to call you for fucking 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:33.400 years now. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.680 Oh cool? Cool? Okay? How long how long have you 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.000 been doing? Thank you man? I appreciate that. How long 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:42.239 have you been listening to the show for? 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:44.240 Uh? 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:44.680 Fuck? 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.879 How long have you been around? Since you've been on 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.440 a public U? Public Reddit or whatever it was? 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:51.160 Yeah? 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:57.080 Five years? Crazy shit, the years start coming. D you 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:57.960 have a whole ass kid? 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.840 Yeah? Since U I started listening to you. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.520 Yeah, how's that going? 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:05.959 Uh? 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:11.520 It's going. Uh, it's tough. It's fun having the kid. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.800 It's just everything comes with it, like, he's great. 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:17.920 What inspired you to want to have a kid? 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.000 Uh, you know, not fear pulling out? 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.360 I guess Oh it was an accident. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.360 Yeah, oh. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:28.280 Okay. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.760 How'd you feel when you found out that, uh uh, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.319 you were gonna have a kid? Was it like, were 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.679 you considering like, oh shit, let's maybe not do this, 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.800 or was it like, all right, well, let's just do it. 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.120 No, I was scared of shit, but it wasn't. I 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.360 was prepared to do whatever she decided. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.720 Yeah, yeah, do you? I mean I guess looking now, 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:52.960 how how old is your kid now? 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.160 He's about two and six months or so. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.880 Okay, So comparing how you feel now to how you 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:04.120 felt when you were scared of shit? How do you 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.520 compare those two feelings? So it was the fear warranted 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.960 or are you like, all right, I'm over that fear. 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.680 It was definitely warranted. Like you know, your life changes. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.400 You fucking can't do a lot of things that you 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.440 used to be able to do. But I guess I'm 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:26.200 resigned at this point, but also happy because I love them. 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.160 What sorts of things could you not? Can you not 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.440 do anymore that you that you thought you wanted to 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:32.800 do or that you do want to do? 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:42.240 I guess just do whatever I wanted pretty much like 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.200 I'm not you know, I don't have to carry a 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:45.799 baby with me. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.120 Well, I guess if if we're gonna get specific, I mean, 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.320 is there anything specifically that you wanted to do that 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:53.880 you can't do? 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:54.239 Now? 0:02:56.320 --> 0:03:01.320 Play video games whenever I want? Yes, true, he requires 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:02.000 a lot of attention. 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.480 Yeah that's true. Well you can you Are you able 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.520 to play video games while he's in the room? 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:13.760 Uh? Yeah, except for he likes He always wants my attention, 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.720 you know, and I have feel guilty if I don't 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:17.799 give it to him. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:19.919 Yeah, that's good, that's good. 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.280 I guess when you're how old two and a half? 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.400 How old do kids start playing video games at? I'm 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:27.240 trying to remember when I got my Game Boy Advance? 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:29.679 Are you in? Are you in Nintendo? 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.800 Oh? Yeah, I would say four or five? 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:33.880 Four or five? 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.840 Okay, all right, So I guess in a couple of years, 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.680 you guys can start playing games together. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.360 Super Smash Brothers, Mario. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:46.800 Kart Yoh yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. I remember when I was. 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.240 Got Let's see, the GameCube came out in two thousand 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.920 and one, so I was like three or four or five, 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:56.000 and I remember the GameCube came out and I was 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:57.920 a little too young to be able to like understand 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.960 the controls of Super Mario Sunshine. So I just sat 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.720 and I watched my dad play and that was really nice. 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.920 Oh that's nice. Yeah, I want to be there playing 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.600 with him because my dad left when I was two, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:15.240 so I didn't get to really experience that. Well it 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.880 must yeah it was. It was it nice for you. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.200 It was a real good bonding moment. 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.280 It was, man, it was. 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:29.160 That's something I've been thinking a lot lately about kids 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.640 and whatnot. I mean, I still I feel like I 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.679 got a few solid amount more years before I gotta 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:36.960 figure that shit out. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:41.680 But like, m yeah, people have kids when they're like 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.640 forty five. I mean you got time. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.000 Yeah, well how old are you? 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:48.480 Thirty two? 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:54.920 Cool man? Cool? Yeah? So do you did you ever 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.000 rekindle with your dad? 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:02.400 Uh? He lives way far away, kind of just avoid him. Yeah, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.520 be honest, that might be more on me than him. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.240 Do you feel like, but do you feel like what 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.520 happened with your dad is kind of like informs your 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.280 relationship with your own kid? 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.920 Yeah? Because I didn't get to see my kid for 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.679 two weeks or I guess a week and a half 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.560 this week and last week, so I'm I'm I felt 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:30.200 like I missed a lot, you know, mmm, and that 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:31.680 kind of that kind of weighs on me. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.040 What why did you miss the week? 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:41.560 Just you know, personal shit and work and the baby mama. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:44.480 Are you and the baby mama cool? 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:51.440 Well? I thought we were, but yeah, it. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.440 Goes okay, So do you are you guys don't live together? 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.800 No, No, we haven't lived together for about months, But 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.800 it's all right. I just uh, I just fear he's 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.640 not gonna have I'm not gonna be able to spend 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.279 enough time with him. M What have you been? 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.479 Uh? What have you been up to in those seven months? 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.719 I'm working and figuring out what I'm gonna do because 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:21.320 it's uh, we were together for like eight years and 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.920 now I have this like kind of freedom and uh, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.680 I don't know what the fuck to do with myself. 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:31.160 Ooh interesting, tell me? Can I do you want to 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:31.960 talk about that? 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.640 Yeah, we can talk about it. What I got? Uh 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:41.960 I got it means you got what I got? Plans? 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.800 Yeah, hit me with the plans. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.880 I'm thinking about, uh, not selling my house but renting 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.520 it out, maybe living in a van and then just 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.440 on the weekends when I have the kid, staying with 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:59.919 the mother. You know, and just kind of living my life. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.359 Would you drive the van around or would you do 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.080 or like, would you go on like driving across the 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.240 country or just live out of the van with a 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:10.520 van parked, live out of the. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.840 Van and take like a lower paying job, less stressful, 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:14.720 more time with the kid. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:21.600 Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's cool. What 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:22.240 do you do now? 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:24.480 Electrical work? 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:26.160 Is that a lot of stress? 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:32.600 Yeah, it can be, it has, it stays and the 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:38.200 traveling sucks, but not too bad. 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:43.000 So you're gonna downsize to a van, get a lower 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.240 paying job that's less stressful, and then just chill and 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:47.320 spend more time with your kid. 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:52.960 Yeah, and just family in general. I guess I. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.480 Like that idea. I like that idea. I think that's cool. 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.080 I like it too. But pulling the triggers hard why. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.880 It's just I don't know. I guess just because for 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.360 so long I just did whatever I needed too or 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:12.280 whatever everybody else wanted to do. And now I got freedom, 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.480 you know, except for the kid. But he's not locking 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.000 me down on anything, you know, I want to do 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:24.320 stuff with him. 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.080 Is this something that you've been wanting to do for 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.320 a while? Moving to a Van. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.199 Yeah, I think so, but I knew I could never 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.600 do it because I had, you know, the girl and 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.280 the kid, and I was like, well that dreams a crapshoot. 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.600 So I'll just you know, live my life, go to 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:53.240 work and be happy and die. But now I got freedom. 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.400 Are you excited about having freedom? 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.880 I don't know. I'm going to talk about therapist here. 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.720 Shortly figure that out. I guess. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:04.920 Have you talked to your therapist about this before? 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:06.920 Uh? 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.240 Kind of? But there's there's always new developments in my 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:15.320 life that I gotta talk to her. M I don't 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:19.000 know if she helps her not be honest. 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:19.080 Why not? 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:21.240 Uh? 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:26.199 I guess because you don't really see the benefits of it. 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:31.200 But it's just nice to talk to somebody. Maybe I can. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:31.840 I ask you, like. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.480 In the in looking for help or looking for benefits, 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.760 if you were to picture or imagine what that help 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.360 or benefit might look like, what would what would that be? 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.360 Yeah? I think that's my problem because that's what she 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.280 keeps asking me. It's like, what do you want? And 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:51.800 I'm like, I have no fucking clue. 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:01.280 Well, you want to live an event? 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.840 Well, I mean from talking to you for two seconds, 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.880 you sound like you want to spend more time with 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:09.920 your family and you want to be less stressed. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:18.600 Yeah. Yeah, yeah I've been. I've been a lot less 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:26.400 stressed and pretty happy. Uh from something you said, so you, uh, 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.000 you got somebody into Pokemon a long time ago and 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.960 they went broke, right, So I did the same thing 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:38.160 with Magic the Gathering. So I went pretty broke, but 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:42.480 I was already broke, so but it more broke. And 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.959 so that was that was because of the Pokemon thing. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.160 You need to find something you like to do, go 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.880 do it. So I took that advice. And then after 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:57.839 I got over being broke, you had another call where 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:59.920 you were like, oh, you can't kill yourself, you got 0:10:59.920 --> 0:11:03.200 to do this. Yeah. So I've been playing every Monday, 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.360 so I can't kill myself because I gotta go play 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:07.319 Magic on Monday. 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:14.839 Great, I'm extreme. I'm extremely happy to hear that you 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.439 you're not gonna kill yourself because you have Magic tournaments 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.800 on Mondays. That's uh, that's good. Do you still play 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.160 in them? 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:26.920 Uh? Yeah. They're more casual though, because it's the casual 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:30.280 format where you can just go to a bar. Yeah 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:31.080 kind of nice. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.920 Yeah you need some ship? Well yeah, bro you need 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.240 to have something. I think. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:37.800 I think one of the things I've learned is you 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:40.800 need to have a place where you can go where 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.560 it's that. It's that, it's cheers, dude, it's where everybody 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:44.240 knows your name. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:45.040 You know. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.160 Yeah, you gotta have you gotta have that place. 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.800 Where you go and you know everyone, and and you 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.640 leave and you say goodbye to a bunch of people. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:56.560 You gotta have that place. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.600 And if you don't have that place, you gotta it 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.959 takes it takes a little bit of time and energy 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.440 to develop it, but you gotta have it. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:05.760 It's it's like a key to. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.600 Oh yeah, anxiety inducing. But I probably only did it 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:12.679 because of your podcast. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.920 Oh I'm happy to hear that. I'm happy to hear that. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:17.560 So do you have a you have a nice community 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.040 of folks in the Magic Universe that you hang out with. 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.040 Oh yeah, it's much better than like the game store 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.280 because it's at a bar, so it's kind of like 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.320 more socially adjusted people. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.560 Yeah, sure, sure, Ah, that's wonderful. I'm super happy to 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:38.000 hear that the podcast, Uh inspired you to do that? Yeah, 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.600 I mean, especially as like we're getting I think one thing, 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.640 one reason I'm optimistic about society is. I do think 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.840 that as we get I think there is a pendulum 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.400 shift that like, as we get more and more sucked 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.760 into our digital universe, there's going to be more and 0:12:54.800 --> 0:13:00.280 more demand for like in person shit people to be 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.920 more and more like, oh wait, I actually want to 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.680 be out and about and in the universe and not 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:10.320 on fucking uh discord and uh right it all the time. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.480 Yeah. The more I socialize, the more I figure out 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:19.079 I'm very terminally online because I'll say some shit that's 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.440 like a quote from a meme or something, and I 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.280 just get a blank fucking stare and I'm like, fuck, 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:25.480 I'm I'm an idiot. 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:27.920 You're not an idiot. You're not. 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.640 I don't think you're an idiot, but I think that, Yeah, 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.160 you can become more terminally online. But it's great because 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:40.520 there are places where weird nerdy people hang out and socialize, 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:42.880 you know, and you don't have to feel like a 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:43.560 crazy person. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.080 Yeah. The community at this bar is great. I love it. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:52.599 That's uh much better than any game store I've been to. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.240 Wow, why are the game stores weird? 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:04.480 They're a lot more competitive they Uh, it's not like, oh, 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.960 I'm glad you're here, or like I really like playing 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:12.400 with you. It's more like when win this game and 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.120 go on to the next one and shake hands but 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:16.960 not talk to the person at all. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah playing. 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:24.000 I play in melee tournaments and sometimes actually shout out. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:29.680 There's this bar in uh Manhattan called os They run 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.400 Melee Wednesday, and I go. I go like once a 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:37.800 month something like that, and uh, eighty percent of the 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.560 time when I like have a match with someone, they're 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.560 we're just sitting down and chatting and it's cool and whatever. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.120 But then like twenty percent of the twenty percent of the. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.480 Time I could tell they were like fucking into it 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.360 and they were like and like like I'll like I'll win, 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.720 and they like are all fucking sad, and I'm like, 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.120 oh man, come on, we're just having fun playing the game. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.200 Yeah. I had one guy get up on me and 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.800 get mad, and I'm like, shit that that it just 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.880 feels bad. Yeah, And that's that's how I feel every 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.360 time at the game store. But at the bar, it's 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.520 just like it's always just fun. Nobody cares if they lose. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:14.600 Yeah. 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.400 Yeah, they also have smash tournaments at that bar too, 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:18.520 that's cool. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:20.760 Yeah, I feel like I feel that way with uh, 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.320 I feel that way with I mean those have been 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.560 my like two big hobbies for my life is uh 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:30.640 a stand up and the smash Bros. And I feel 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:31.960 like I feel like I stand up to Like a 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.320 lot of people in stand up are like also very competitive, 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:36.480 but it's like, bro, I don't know a lot of 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:37.680 this ship. It's like at the end of the day, 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.440 we're all just at the end of the day, we're 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:40.720 all just trying to get out of the house, you know. 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:47.720 Yeah, they seem more like uh critical then, like because 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.200 they're trying to help you out, but they just come 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.600 off as an asshole. Maybe that's for stand up. 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:57.880 Or well, nah mean mainly just just may may I 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.480 think mainly just people being like this person's sir, this 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:01.480 is lame or whatever. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.960 Fuck. It's like, we're just trying to get out of 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:04.240 the house. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:04.440 Man. 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.400 But anyway, what's your name? Gary? 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:08.320 Yeah? 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.360 Gary? Yeah, Gary, Gary Gary, Gary? 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:16.000 All right, So you're fucking you got your magic tournament 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:17.560 that you're not killing yourself for. 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:18.600 That's good. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.720 You're gonna try to take a lower paying job to 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.560 have less stress, live out of a van. 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:30.680 Yeah, be with Kid Moore. Yeah, stop drinking too, Stop 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.480 drinking it just yeah, it just sucks because all the 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.280 stuff at the bars, so you know, alcohol is always there. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.520 Yeah. What inspired you to quit drinking? 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.680 I think a long time ago. I like when I 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.080 was twenty seven, I was fucking drinking and playing Rocket 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.640 League every night and I was getting plastered. And uh, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:56.440 one one birthday, I drink almost a whole fifth by 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.000 myself playing Rocket League and I felt like it almost 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:02.000 killed me mm hmm, and I was like, I need 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.480 to stop doing this. I'm too old. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.200 M was that your rock bottom? 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:09.359 No? 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.600 No, my rock bottom was right out of high school. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.880 Uh shit, eating mick chickens and drinking four locos. 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:16.920 Oh my god. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:18.560 That living in the car. 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:21.920 Yeah that sounds fun for a day. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:28.640 Yeah yeah, yeah it Uh it wasn't great. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:31.399 How long you've been off alcohol for? 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.280 Oh I'm not off. I just uh, I just cut 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:39.320 back a lot, and I'm trying to not drink, but 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.720 going to the bar all the time, especially with the 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:42.680 family drinking too. 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:44.840 The family. 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.880 Yeah, like my whole anytime we go for a birthday 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.639 or anything like that, it's oh what bar are we 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:53.000 going to? 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:56.200 Uh? 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:57.680 Well, oh do you have a lot of family where 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:57.960 you live. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:03.159 Now are you close with them? 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:07.680 Yeah, I'm pretty close. Yeah, definitely with the mother. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.879 That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Do you have a 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:12.960 lot of friends. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:16.600 Now? 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.919 Most of them are online? And then you know, I 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.320 got the people who all know my name and I 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.240 know their name, and we may sometimes go to people's 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.880 houses and play magic. But I don't know if they're 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.000 friends yet. I don't. I wouldn't say they would call 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:32.320 me a friend. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:34.639 So I'm curious about this. 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:36.720 Uh, and yeah, you know you should talk to a 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.320 real therapist about this, But I'm just I'm curious. As 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:44.440 I'm talking to you, is like, you're you got all 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.360 you got your You've got all this well rounded stuff. 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:51.760 You know, you got a plan, You're cutting down on drinking, 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:56.199 You're you know, you're on an upward trajectory, making friends, 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:57.000 hang out with family. 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:58.640 What when you say you're. 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:03.199 What was the thing you were gonna talk to your 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.400 therapist about, like trying to find like trying to figure 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:06.240 out what the fuck to do? 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.720 Well? She always asked me, what I what do I 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.240 want out of those therapy sessions? And I don't know 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.679 what the fuck to tell her. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:17.960 But you said that you you said before that you 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:19.639 were like, I'm gonna I gotta talk to my therapists 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:21.000 about like what the fuck am I gonna do? 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.000 Uh Yeah, but then that's not her job to tell 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:27.880 me what I'm gonna do. So it's like, I think 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:33.000 I'm expecting something from a therapist that I'm never gonna get. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:40.880 Yeah, that's possible, that's possible. But I mean in terms 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.520 of figuring out what you're gonna do, because you're already 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:45.680 doing a bunch of stuff. 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:52.080 Yeah. Yeah. The last two weeks when I think you 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.720 can see my kid though, I was a little depressed 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:56.679 and I didn't really do anything though, and I was 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.880 it felt bad. So I was kind of forced myself 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.760 to go to magic and I feel a lot better. Now. 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.520 Where is your Uh do you have a nice enough 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.600 relationship with the baby mama that you guys can like, 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.280 you know, fucking co parent the kid. 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:15.840 I thought we did. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:17.520 Yeah. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:22.880 It sucks, Yeah it does, but shit happens. 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:25.520 Yeah, life is crazy. 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:32.320 That says crazy. Yeah, Gary, it's. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.840 Been nice talking to you. Is there is there. 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:37.879 I know you said you've been trying to call in 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:44.560 for a while. Uh, is there any thing. I guess 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:48.399 while we're still on the phone, is there anything else 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:49.760 that you wanted. 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:52.440 To say or talk about before we go? 0:20:53.880 --> 0:21:01.080 I don't mean down to Ashville alle Yeah, I've. 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.800 Heard things about Ashville. I've heard cool things about Ashville. 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.200 Yeah, don't go downtown, go on Heywood Road. 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:07.080 Okay. 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.199 I you know I'm not touring this year. I might 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:11.880 next year. I got to think of something to tour. 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.400