Speaker 1: What a circus of emotions. The ride I have been
Speaker 1: on this morning is like nothing you can imagine. So
Speaker 1: I did watch What Happens Live. I then did a
Speaker 1: re rant about my experience. I watched What Happens Live
Speaker 1: with Jeff Lewis and What's going on Andy Cohen and
Speaker 1: how I walked into the Bravo clubhouse and Andy and
Speaker 1: I first decided to address uh an issue in the
Speaker 1: clubhouse and then it aired, So then I had already
Speaker 1: recorded this and then it aired, and it was like,
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you, Againt. It's like a
Speaker 1: circular reference. I can't stop going in circles because I
Speaker 1: am so teflon and so used to just you know,
Speaker 1: playing strong tennis and going into the clubhouse, which is
Speaker 1: is a tough sphere to be in, um, which is
Speaker 1: part of the Bravo sphere that I just that's the
Speaker 1: part I don't miss. Like, Frankly, at the beginning of
Speaker 1: when I was coming up, you'd have enos weekly article.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have Instagram and TikTok and Twitter. And so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a shout out to all the housewives
Speaker 1: that endure this pop culture circus because it's a treadmill,
Speaker 1: and people like Erica Jane have had to get pummeled,
Speaker 1: not only in the media, the mainstream media, on TikTok,
Speaker 1: on Twitter, on Instagram, live it, rinse it, repeat it,
Speaker 1: and do it all over again, people like Lisa Rinna.
Speaker 1: You know, it can be intense. So I have to
Speaker 1: give all the housewives a big shout out and say
Speaker 1: that they deserve whatever it is that they're getting paid,
Speaker 1: because they shoot the show, the show airs, then they
Speaker 1: go through the media, the media tour, then they go
Speaker 1: and watch what happens live. And you know, as I
Speaker 1: said tod Andy Coleman this morning, I said, I'm it's
Speaker 1: fine watch what happens live. For me, It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I went in, I record, I promoted my podcast. I
Speaker 1: took some punches, and that's what the deal is. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go in, I'm gonna take some punches, you know,
Speaker 1: promote my podcast, and I'm sure I do it all
Speaker 1: over again tomorrow. So since this episode aired of myself,
Speaker 1: Andy and Jeff Lewis, a lot has happened. People have
Speaker 1: reached out to me, Oh my god, you handled yourself
Speaker 1: like a chance. They were coming for you. It felt
Speaker 1: like an ambush. It felt like they were ganging up
Speaker 1: some people. Wow, that was explosive, That was fun. That
Speaker 1: was a roller coaster road. Some people on TikTok Bethany's
Speaker 1: vile piece of garbage and she deserved what she got.
Speaker 1: Or you know, there's a I have a lot of
Speaker 1: haters on TikTok or they maybe I'll just show their
Speaker 1: face and say how much they hate me there and Twitter.
Speaker 1: To TikTok and Twitter are probably the two most hateful
Speaker 1: places I can imagine on social media. But you know what,
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to take it if you're gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, be part of the fun parts of it.
Speaker 1: Um and I am teflon. So after that episode, I
Speaker 1: got so many messages and everybody was clamoring. You can't
Speaker 1: imagine the downloads from my own this podcast, just just
Speaker 1: just talking about the aftermath of that, Like people were
Speaker 1: just running on to hear my perspective about what went down.
Speaker 1: And I was shocked to hear all of a lot
Speaker 1: of the negativity saying like, wow, they definitely came in,
Speaker 1: came for you, like and I had a good time.
Speaker 1: I had a good time. And so I mentioned before
Speaker 1: that my daughter my assistants thought like it was a
Speaker 1: pretty hostile environment, and and and people on social media
Speaker 1: that have messaged me many many people and people personally
Speaker 1: have messaged me. So Andy texts me that I wow,
Speaker 1: that was crazy. I'm like, yeah, people thought it was
Speaker 1: a little bit of an ambush, and he was like,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I you know, I knew it was intense
Speaker 1: in the moment, just like a reunion. And Jeff Lewis
Speaker 1: messaged me something like that that was, you know, fun,
Speaker 1: and I was like, it was definitely interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: because I never lie, and I'm just gonna be like,
Speaker 1: not rude. It was definitely interesting. And then the next
Speaker 1: day he was like, your TV gold and I said
Speaker 1: it was definitely good TV. I had fun. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's not what you said on your podcast and I said,
Speaker 1: I did actually have fun. It just the way that
Speaker 1: it's perceived now now hear me out. When I was
Speaker 1: about to say this, my thought was he's going to
Speaker 1: say whatever he says here, but he's going to do
Speaker 1: what everybody else does that I've ever met that's in entertainment,
Speaker 1: besides a few people that I'll mention on this podcast.
Speaker 1: They go and they then go just use that they
Speaker 1: screen grab and then they go use that in social media,
Speaker 1: or he's going to use it as a five days
Speaker 1: a week show. So I thought, grain assault. Whatever I
Speaker 1: write here to Jeff Lewis is ending up somewhere else.
Speaker 1: But at least I said what I said. So I said,
Speaker 1: let me pick up the phone. I looked at my
Speaker 1: phone to see if I had Jeff's number, and I do,
Speaker 1: and I called him. I said, listen. He said, you know, sorry,
Speaker 1: if you hurt it was something, and I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I just want you to know. I thought,
Speaker 1: I know I started if I said I'm fine, and
Speaker 1: don't hate the player, hate the game, and when you
Speaker 1: walk into that show, that's what's going to happen. And
Speaker 1: I can handle myself. I'm fine because I can handle myself.
Speaker 1: If I couldn't handle myself, that would have been a
Speaker 1: whole different story. Like it only looked like it did
Speaker 1: because I was handling myself and I am trained for that.
Speaker 1: And I said, we're not good friends, and you don't
Speaker 1: owe me anything. I said, I just want you to
Speaker 1: know how it was perceived. Um, And he said, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I didn't intend that at all. Like, I
Speaker 1: really like you, and I didn't mean for it to
Speaker 1: be that way. I truthfully thought, we're going in there
Speaker 1: and we're gonna spar and you're the only person I
Speaker 1: know who can handle it and take it, and that's
Speaker 1: what we're going to do. And I said, I thought
Speaker 1: from the beginning, I just had some dumb idea for
Speaker 1: him as a show. It felt like guns blazing for
Speaker 1: the minute I sat down, But again, I can take it.
Speaker 1: I'm not upset, I'm not mad. I'm just telling you
Speaker 1: that what my daughter said, and what my team said,
Speaker 1: and that what people texted me, and what it was
Speaker 1: perceived to be. And I get the sense that he
Speaker 1: might be a little you know, sensitive as a person,
Speaker 1: but you know, act like he's just all all nails,
Speaker 1: all tough. And he said, I didn't intend that at all,
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, and I'm about to start
Speaker 1: crying again, which is weird for me, because something about it.
Speaker 1: People are so gross these days that when someone is
Speaker 1: just the opposite, it shocks me and it moves me.
Speaker 1: And he said, I would love to apologize to your daughter.
Speaker 1: I'm really really sorry. And I can't believe he said that.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds crazy. I'm crying over this, Like
Speaker 1: he said, I'm really sorry. And I couldn't believe that
Speaker 1: because people don't do that. They don't call each other,
Speaker 1: they trash each other on social media, they go in circles.
Speaker 1: And I believe he was sorry because I've been there.
Speaker 1: I've said things that are cold and then realize, like
Speaker 1: other people, either he can't take it or be like
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how I came off. There's something that's
Speaker 1: how you come off. He didn't realize how he came
Speaker 1: off because of how it felt to him and how
Speaker 1: it felt funny and like making good television. I said,
Speaker 1: this is the nature of that beast. You walk in
Speaker 1: there and you're gonna get You're gonna get hit, and
Speaker 1: it's the price you pay for being able to promote
Speaker 1: what you're doing and what I'm doing, and you're not
Speaker 1: at the one winning. I mean, they're getting ratings and
Speaker 1: it is what it is. That's a massive show, has
Speaker 1: been their moracks and they're like, it's the price of admission.
Speaker 1: And I said, and he said, well, it'll be great
Speaker 1: for your podcast. And I said, if that were my
Speaker 1: primary concern, I wouldn't have left Housewives for millions of dollars, Like,
Speaker 1: my primary concern is being a human being, and you're
Speaker 1: saying that to me just now, and and you know,
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm gonna go on my radio show
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say this, I'm going to talk about it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I thought you'd do the opposite.
Speaker 1: I thought you'd get on and start trashing me like
Speaker 1: everybody else does, Like people just keep trashing each other
Speaker 1: onto other trash versus ironing it out and talking about it.
Speaker 1: And it really moved me. And I just have to say,
Speaker 1: but it's not the things that we do in our lives.
Speaker 1: We make mistakes, we say stupid things, we say inappropriate things,
Speaker 1: we say things that are not for the modern day.
Speaker 1: And the first thing that happens is everybody wants to
Speaker 1: beat you down. And it's gotten out of control. And
Speaker 1: instead of just me going and just doing a tour
Speaker 1: of trashing Jeff, I got on the phone with him
Speaker 1: and he, you know, I'm here to say, like, we
Speaker 1: all make mistakes. And I'm not even saying it was
Speaker 1: a mistake. He was on a television show. I can
Speaker 1: take it. It's a it's a it's it in many ways.
Speaker 1: Reality TV's a ship pit. We're all in it, you know.
Speaker 1: But he perceived he said as either a mistake, whether
Speaker 1: he didn't want to hurt my feelings, and he didn't
Speaker 1: even I didn't even know I had feelings about it
Speaker 1: because I'm so teflon, but I just realized I have
Speaker 1: feelings about it because when he said sorry, it just
Speaker 1: moved me so deeply, and I just think he's a
Speaker 1: class act and it said so much more about him
Speaker 1: for him to apologize. And then I was getting off
Speaker 1: that to get onto an interview and Andy calls me,
Speaker 1: and I said to hey, you know, you didn't need
Speaker 1: to say that line. And he was like, well, something
Speaker 1: that Ramona said about you. You know, but I don't
Speaker 1: support women. I'm afright, but you didn't start it with
Speaker 1: the Ramona. You made it like that's what people say.
Speaker 1: And he was like, I get that, like he was
Speaker 1: acknowledging what was going on, and he said it was
Speaker 1: not ambush. I'm like, you're right, it was not an ambush.
Speaker 1: I do not think that there was like a pre
Speaker 1: plan and everybody was sitting there with guns waiting me
Speaker 1: to come in. But it felt a little bit like
Speaker 1: imagine I'm okay with that. I'd go on again for tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's a good promotion and it's funny you get to
Speaker 1: you know, it's the price of admission. But then he
Speaker 1: and I had a really nice and lightening conversation about
Speaker 1: me leaving Housewives and on what that process was like,
Speaker 1: which is private between us because I do not share
Speaker 1: the things that Andy and I discussed. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't air our laundry. Um. And we talked about just
Speaker 1: different things that have gone back and forth, you know,
Speaker 1: between the two of us. Not it's never been an argument.
Speaker 1: We have not ever been in an argument. We both
Speaker 1: are not only thick skinned and really enjoy each other
Speaker 1: and like each other and respect each other, but also
Speaker 1: business people, um. And we both have reason, both have
Speaker 1: reason to be annoyed at each other for different things
Speaker 1: because we've come up at the exact same time. Don't
Speaker 1: forget the first time Andy ever did a reunion was
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Orange County, might have
Speaker 1: been with New York, Probably was Orange County. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was like back in that day. It was just
Speaker 1: an idea that the network had, So he was like
Speaker 1: a young executive coming up in the entertainment industry, and
Speaker 1: I was a young real the person coming up in
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry. And we both have had ten careers
Speaker 1: since then. We both published books, we both have done
Speaker 1: shows and TV and radio and podcasts and deals and
Speaker 1: products and all of it. So you know you're gonna
Speaker 1: crack a few heads. I just want to say that
Speaker 1: shout out to Jeff Lewis and Andy because both of
Speaker 1: them today I wanted to really clear the air. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying Andy, like you know, apologize,
Speaker 1: just kind of apologize with Jeff full fledge apology apology. Andy,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he owed me any sort of apology,
Speaker 1: but like an apology lights like I'm sorry that this
Speaker 1: went down this way today. And also this is some
Speaker 1: stuff that you and I have gone back and forth
Speaker 1: about and like clean and it's really nice. I just
Speaker 1: think that that's just it's not about Bravo and it's
Speaker 1: not about myself for Jeff or watch What Happens Live.
Speaker 1: It's about life and things are gonna be unpleasant. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna like everything someone says or does, but to
Speaker 1: kind of get on the phone, not all the time,
Speaker 1: but just like pick up the phone, get sit down
Speaker 1: a summer for lunch and just clear the air. It's
Speaker 1: really made me feel good. I've been like I've cried
Speaker 1: three times, like you know, slight tears three times today.
Speaker 1: So I'm really glad I went to watch It Happens
Speaker 1: live because it restored my faith in humanity