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Speaker 1: Is that woo woof? And them and Tye Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Salibrabo boys and girls. Bunny's Tie Hill a

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Speaker 1: still incomparable, all being a little bit colder in the

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Speaker 1: heart of the Midwest, Chicago, Illinois, Sir, welcome back in.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm not giving up, Tie, but I am

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Speaker 2: very close to needing just some me time with a

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Speaker 2: is going in this sport. It's just an elaborate roster

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Speaker 2: swingers party where everybody's getting in on that portal action

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Speaker 2: there is something about needing to follow Oh what's his name?

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Speaker 2: So I'm doing my best here, ty I'm connecting yarn

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Speaker 1: So look, we had a bunch of Bowl games that

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Speaker 1: at Winter Wonders. It'll be a good time. Here's what transpired.

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Speaker 1: The first game of the day was a banger. You

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Speaker 1: The Vegas Ball Oregon State thirty to three over Florida.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you what surprises me about Oregon State? Please,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl Fresno wins by twenty three over Wazoo.

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Speaker 1: Lending Tree Bowl, Frank Gore sees God, sees your dude

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Speaker 2: listening to this on Tuesday, December twentieth. Coming up real

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Speaker 1: It is a good matchup.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned, extremely efficient on offense. South Alabama, by the way,

431
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: very quiet, at least to me. Kane Wamick, great job.

432
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: You win that many games at South Alabama and he's

433
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: from the Tom Allen Tree. You're gonna get interest from

434
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 2: big schools because they were what a Gusta wind away

435
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: from beating UCLA in LA in front of dozens ty

436
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: I repeat, dozens of people. They lost, Yeah, thirty two

437
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 2: to thirty one three questionable fake field goaling, but yeah,

438
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: in front of all sorts of families and then really

439
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 2: close to Troy. I think they lose. What what was

440
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 2: the score?

441
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: Six?

442
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: They won six?

443
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: They lost two games this season by a combined five points.

444
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: Yes, So jaggs very quietly a sending the college football

445
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: ranks again. Kane Wamick, who was at South and then

446
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: went to Indiana and was Tom Allen's linebackers coach, comes

447
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: back and does just a bang up job. So that's

448
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 2: just a really good game. Jags are favored by four

449
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 2: and a half in New Orleans, so I strongly recommend

450
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: if you have some free time around kickoff.

451
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: Watch it. Yeah, this is this is an interesting contest

452
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. But I'll and I'll come

453
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 1: back to what I said. Okay, I believe on the

454
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: on the confidence preview that we did. But Austin Reid,

455
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 1: the quarterback for Western Kentucky, threw his name in the

456
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: portal and then with Drew and I believe we'll be

457
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: playing in this game which is nice for Western. That

458
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: is nice for Western. I'm in on South Alabama, though,

459
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm in on South Alabama. You know it. Austin Reid

460
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: isn't the only name on the Western side that was

461
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: questionable for this bowl game. There are some others that

462
00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: have decided that they're going to transfer. So it feels

463
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: to me like a really good spot for South Alabama.

464
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm actually quite confident in this result for the Jags,

465
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: so and I'm thrilled they're in a game like this.

466
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled they had the kind of season that they did.

467
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: They were another team that I remember we talked up

468
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: in the preseason wondering what kind of a year it

469
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: might be. We saw the potential. They've been really good

470
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: on defense. The points Brad has come down Originally, I

471
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: think when we did our preview last week, again seven

472
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: and a half points. That's come down, and probably because

473
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: of the Austin Reid news. Now it's about four and

474
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: a half. But I still think I favor the Jags here.

475
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: They also lost the topper is lost and then gained

476
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: an all conference caliber linebacker. I think it's druck Quez Evans,

477
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: who had entered the portal and came back in as well,

478
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: so yeah, it should be a fun game. Next, what

479
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: do you have on Thursday?

480
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: The Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl between Baylor and air Force.

481
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: This is a weird matchup to me, yeah, this is

482
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: a weird matchup. You will know. I have not been

483
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 1: a Baylor fan this season, dating all the way back

484
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: to the preseason. I just something about this team weirded

485
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: me out and I couldn't throw my weight behind him.

486
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: And again, they've done the thing that they've been really

487
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: good at doing, at least from my perspective, and that

488
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: is leaving me constantly in a position of not knowing

489
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: what to make of them. They're all season long. What

490
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: we know about Baylor is that they're not good against

491
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: the run, and what we know about air Force is

492
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: that they led the nation in rushing offense, so that

493
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: in and of itself seemingly presents a bit of a conflict.

494
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: Air Force ran for three point thirty one per game.

495
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: They also led in time of possession, so you just

496
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: kind of extrapolate out what that means. What that means

497
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: is they do really well what Baylor can't stop, and

498
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: they also are going to drain the life out of

499
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: the ball, they're going to lead in time of possession.

500
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: They're going to make your offense be efficient, not something

501
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: that Baylor has been particularly good at. So this is

502
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: one of those games. Man. I put seventeen on Baylor,

503
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: and I wish I had thought a little bit more

504
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: about it. But I'm not going to change my mind.

505
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: You're not changing No, I'm gonna stick with Baylor. I'm

506
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: gonna stick to my guns. I don't want to do

507
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: the thing that I do during the NCAA tournament, which

508
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: has changed my picks when I when I hear something

509
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: that spooks me a little bit. Baylor is still favored

510
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: in this game by four and a half. They're still favored.

511
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: Maybe the wrong team is favored. I think you can

512
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: make a case for that. But I'm going to stick

513
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: to my guns. I'm gonna go Bears. I am gonna

514
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: hedge though, and I'm gonna say air Force plus the

515
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: points because it feels like a matchup to me that

516
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: is right before the underdog here.

517
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: I have air Force with a good amount of confidence.

518
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot to like on the air Force side,

519
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: right and if only because of that matchup, the rushing defense,

520
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: the rushing defense for Baylor versus the rushing offense for

521
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: air Force the other side of that. By the way,

522
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: Baylor was able to put together a decent ground assault

523
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: this year via Richard Reese and some others. Air Force

524
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: very very good at top ten caliber rushing defense as well. Yeah,

525
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: so I don't know if they played anybody the caliber Baylor,

526
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: which is probably why this point spread is where it's at.

527
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: But I will stick to my guns here, even though

528
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: I am not confident at all.

529
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: In what's the like Christmas equivalent of one two three

530
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: can coun like one two three, Candy Cane one two

531
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: three Santa Like, think put yourself in the shoes of

532
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: a Baylor defensive player. Right school gets rid of your

533
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator in Ron Roberts. They part ways, you go

534
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: through a dramatic season in which you do a good

535
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: amount to win games, right they like they handled Texas

536
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: pretty well for a chunk of that game. They lose

537
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: at the gun to TCU. I mean they get absolutely

538
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: demolished by it was a Kansas State. Yes, by Kansas State.

539
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: You have all these ups and downs. They finish the

540
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: season losing three straight and then right before you know so,

541
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: you got finals and then right before the holidays, the

542
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: interim defensive situation is all right, everybody, let's prepare for

543
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: the option, or you can go home for Christmas right after.

544
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: So I just think there is something too Baylor's defense

545
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: getting gashed in this game by Air Force.

546
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a little bit if you want. I don't

547
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: know if I have like an equivalent outside of what

548
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: I experienced working in corporate America the week before Christmas,

549
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: but most places have some sort of holiday party, and

550
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: then after the holiday party, like you can go into work,

551
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: but you don't have to, or if you're there, nobody's

552
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: really looking to see how hard you're working. There's a

553
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: little bit of a field of that here in the

554
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: Armed Forces.

555
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, for going through the motion, that's all. Where is

556
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: the Armed Forces Bowl?

557
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: By the way, they played in Fort Worth?

558
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so there is that home ish town. I mean

559
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: way goes closer to Fort Worth than Air Forces. But yeah,

560
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: I just think there is something so clear. Let's just

561
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: let's show up. Let's get our Ogio backpack, let's regift

562
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: it three days later to little sister.

563
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's move the Friday final, next final

564
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: couple games here all right.

565
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: After the Armed Forces Bowl, I have the Independence Bowl.

566
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: Franks looks very good in Shreef Court. By the way,

567
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: Louisiana Houston, Louisiana a tough stretch early on. The offense

568
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: was you know, without pretty without excuse me without Billy

569
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: Napier was pretty bad all here long. The defense was decent.

570
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: Zion Hill Green, big dude up front defensive tackle was

571
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: a problem for everybody. The raging Cagun's played. Speaking of

572
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: a problem, Houston's defense went from oh, really interesting in

573
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one to arguably the biggest disappointing disaster of

574
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. The show in this game, but they're

575
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: in this game because of Clayton Tune and Tank Dell

576
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: a very successful passing offense. They just the Cougars could

577
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: not close, couldn't beat a number of also bad defense

578
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: on their schedule. Their best win was a six and

579
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: six Memphis win that was barely I don't know, I

580
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: don't know who the momentum, if anybody has it is with,

581
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: but either way, it has the feel of a chaotic

582
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: matchup in Shreveport. So that's good.

583
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Houston's one of those teams that I

584
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: think we're going to be scratching our head.

585
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: I loved them coming into the air.

586
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: So we were really into Houston coming into the season

587
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: and it just didn't materialize. It seemed like this was

588
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: going to be the year that the the Hole Grison

589
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: thing was going to take flight, that they were unlucky

590
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: last year, and that this was this was going to

591
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: be the year, and it started off really poorly. Yeah,

592
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: it just never really came together in the way that

593
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: we thought. So I was on Houston with a fair

594
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: amount of confidence in this one. I still feel that way.

595
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: But I think They're offense is the clear best Their

596
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: offense is the clear best thing. It's just with this

597
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: Houston team, putting any degree of confidence on what to

598
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: expect week to week is a bit of a that

599
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: that's the risk, right.

600
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a little more consistent as the season went on,

601
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: but even still, when you have that defense that bad,

602
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: there's only so much you can do.

603
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: Final game here on the list is for me, excuse me?

604
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: Is the guessparable? Yes, Wake Forest a one point favorite

605
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: against MISSOO. They play this one Raymond James Stadiums in Tampa. Dan,

606
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: mm hmm, you know my guiding precepts. Now when it

607
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: comes to the care acronym, which you so.

608
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Do you want me to read it out?

609
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean go ahead? Why not? Just some people

610
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: people want to People are wondering what does that mean?

611
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: See for crap, don't pick them a about to be

612
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: a new team, crap down the stretch, Crap down the stretch,

613
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: Crap down the stretch final, you know, November ish, month

614
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: of the season whatever, uh about to be a new

615
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: team decimated by opt outs, injuries, coach losses are real

616
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: scary picking an interim coach or e end of the day, just.

617
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: Go with your gut about who cares more. And wake

618
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: Forest very clearly violates that c the number one rule.

619
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: The first thing you look at, let's look at what

620
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: a team did down the stretch. Wake Forest was two

621
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: and four down the stretch after their bye week in

622
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: mid October and just one in five or something against

623
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: the spread. The teams figured them out. And I don't

624
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: know what it was. We see it happen like we

625
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: saw it happen with some other schools as well, where

626
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: it like suddenly you just get figured out. Maybe it

627
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: was an acc thing. North Carolina had it happen to

628
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: them as well. But long story short, I just feel

629
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: like the last six weeks of the season for wake

630
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: Forest or a big red flag, and I don't want

631
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: to pick them. I don't want to pick them in

632
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: this game against Missoo. Now, Miszoo's got some of their

633
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: own guys is on defense who are transferring out, And

634
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: this was a team that was led by defense. But

635
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: and when I say transfer out, I should say opting

636
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: for the draft, not transferring, but opting out. Nonetheless, this

637
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: is a team led by defense. I'm sure they're going

638
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: to have to deal with some of their own issues

639
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: now filling in those gaps. However, this is a team

640
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: that clearly wanted to get to a bowl game, and

641
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: they played hard to get there. They needed to win

642
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: over Arkansas last game of the year in order to

643
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: get it there. Here now I expect that they're going

644
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: to put in a pretty solid effort. I also am

645
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: a little bit like you bowing out the altar of

646
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: Brady cook, like we're so Brady's cooking. Maybe we're sort

647
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Speaker 1: of in like Brady cooking a little bit with gas.

648
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Speaker 1: Now as the season warmed up, I'm I'm I'm a

649
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Speaker 1: little bit more in on miss Ready, we're ready to

650
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Speaker 1: be heard again. Ready, we're ready to start talking about

651
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Speaker 1: it publicly again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

653
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Speaker 1: So I'm not feeling great about wake Forest. I'm definitely

654
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: feeling better about Missou with the way they closed things out.

655
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: The X factor here, And I've not read a whole

656
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: lot about this, but I think it's worth just keeping

657
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: an eye on because we've got a couple of days

658
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: now for things to materialize, and m hell, in this

659
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: new world of college football, things happened very quickly. Sam

660
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: Hartman has a decision to make. Okay, Sam Hartman. I

661
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: believe per Dave Clawson, when he talked about this matchup,

662
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: said back at the beginning of the month that he

663
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: believed Sam Hartman was going to play. Sam Hartman told

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff that he was probably gonna play in

665
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Speaker 1: this bowl game. Obviously, Sam Hartman playing in this bowl

666
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: game gives wake Forest a much much better chance of

667
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Speaker 1: winning the game. Sam Hartman being Sam Hartman, m hm.

668
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Speaker 1: He also could transfer. He would be a sixty year

669
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Speaker 1: quarterback who still has eligibility because of the COVID year.

670
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: He could transfer out if he wanted to, and people

671
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: would want Sam Hartman for sure. Okay, he also could

672
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Speaker 1: go a pro. He could go pro, could opt out

673
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Speaker 1: if you wanted. So I have not in the in

674
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Speaker 1: the absence of any hardcore confirmation one way or the other.

675
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: And I look before we hit record, it just feels

676
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Speaker 1: like there's a bit of an open question there around

677
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: Sam Hartman. If Sam Hartman decides he's not playing in

678
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Speaker 1: this Bowl game, I would be inclined to elevate the

679
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: number of confidence points. I already have a massoom. I

680
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: already feel good about missoo here for the reasons I

681
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: described earlier. But if Hartman's out, then I'm out on

682
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: wake for us entirely.

683
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: You proposed to your wife on Christmas Day some years ago,

684
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: correct Christmas Eve? But yeah, Christmas Eve. Excuse me, close enough,

685
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: just tying it back to Sam Hartman. When you said, Hey, Kate,

686
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: will you marry me? Did she say?

687
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: Probably?

688
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: She probably didn't, is my guess. Probably is a tough

689
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Speaker 2: thing to hear. If that's how the conversation went with

690
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: you're gonna play in this game?

691
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: Probably it was paraphrase. It was parafc I understand, and

692
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Speaker 1: and the the report that I read that he certainly intends.

693
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I certainly intend to marry you, which is

694
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: a stronger proper probably but still kind of leaving the

695
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Speaker 1: door open. Right.

696
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm positive we're at least partially misrepresenting the conversation.

697
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: But that's okay, that's what we find. It's fine, it's

698
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: a gasparoula bowl.

699
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Speaker 2: I like Miszoo. I'm ready to be hurt again by

700
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: this offense that loses in crazy ways. So I'm going

701
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: with Miszoo, and I just I know what the Wake

702
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: offense is and is not capable of doing at any

703
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: given time, and so who knows, Let's go with the

704
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: defense of the Tigers.

705
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: I can tell you what's going to end up happening,

706
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: what's going to end up happening, because we're doing this

707
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: in an on demand world. The second this episode sees

708
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: public light, we're going to get a thousand emails like, Yo,

709
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: Sam Hartman, you were dead wrong about that. Yep, Mia Kolpa,

710
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: don't they. I don't care. I'm just saying, if Sam

711
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: Hartman's not part of this game, then I I would

712
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: take a stronger position on the Missoo side.

713
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: You have nothing, You have done nothing beyond showing yourself

714
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: to be somebody who is willing to be constantly wrong.

715
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: Specific a specifically alter of time that over fifteenth streak

716
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: will be put into Cooperstown or what do we call it,

717
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Hall of Fame yurt that we're going to

718
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: pop up in the actual Hall of Fame parking lot.

719
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: A right, final game, final game, all right, the final

720
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: game is the Hawaii Bowl.

721
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Speaker 1: Hawaii said it right, Thank you.

722
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Speaker 2: Very much, Honolulu Brickfire Tavern. That is what looks good

723
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 2: to my eyes for pizza. Middle Tennessee against San Diego

724
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: State as Tech's seven point favorites at the time of

725
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: this recording. Obviously Middle Tennessee and their highlight of the

726
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: season was beating Miami and beating them soundly. Mario Cristoball's

727
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: Hurricane team. They opened the season getting destroyed by James Madison,

728
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: who was a fantastic story this year. I suppose the

729
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: Blu Raiders were led by a Soso run defense. They

730
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: weren't a great team. They can throw it a little bit,

731
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: not much downfield. Jordan Ferguson a star at defensive end,

732
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Speaker 2: and San Diego State I have no idea what to

733
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Speaker 2: make of They scored thirty and forty points near the

734
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Speaker 2: end of the season and then got absolutely trucked by

735
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: Air Force, at least the Air Force defense scoring three points.

736
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Speaker 2: Jodah Tavai very strong upfront on defense for the as TECs.

737
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Speaker 2: But neither one of these teams should fill you with

738
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Speaker 2: confidence about anything really right now. So I suppose, if

739
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: you're a betting human, take the points just because you

740
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: have a better chance of winning, because you can win

741
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Speaker 2: in two different ways. But no, just watch this game

742
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: on Christmas Eve with your loved ones because it's still

743
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 2: the Hawaii Evil.

744
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Speaker 1: There you have it. I believe that does it? Dan?

745
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: That's it.

746
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: Those are next week's games. Those are next week's games.

747
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: Don't forget to make sure that you make any adjustments.

748
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Speaker 1: If you are ever so inclined to the Winter Wonders entry,

749
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: pay attention. These things happen quickly, I e. If Sam

750
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: Hartman makes a decision to say it, keep these things

751
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: in mind, because it is definitely a new world of

752
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: college football that we find ourselves in right now in

753
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: the euro or twenty twenty two. We've got a show

754
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: coming up in two days time where we're going to

755
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: talk to Brandon Hoffman from twenty four to seven Sports.

756
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: It's been our annual tradition. I guess we do it

757
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: twice a year now because of.

758
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll check in again in February.

759
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of the new calendar that they've instituted here.

760
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Speaker 1: But Brandon is our go to source for all things recruiting.

761
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: Gives us a good portrait of what's going on in

762
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Speaker 1: the world of recruiting, not just with new signees, but

763
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: we got transfers, We got just the whole picture that

764
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: we need to paint for Overballers. We will do that

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Speaker 1: on the next episode, so make sure you're tuned in.

766
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Speaker 1: If you have yet to hit follow or subscribe, please

767
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: make sure you do that as well. Dan and I

768
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: will continue to put episodes out all throughout the off season.

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Speaker 1: We've cut it back to two a week now obviously

770
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: because there's a little bit less to talk about, but

771
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: we obviously will make sure that we are in your

772
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: feed every week in some way, shape or form. Heading

773
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: out to forballers dot com if you want more info

774
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: and how you can get some of the bonus perks

775
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: Dan oh man Ty, do you I know this about you?

777
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: You love getting up in people feeds. You just can't

778
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: do it up there in people's feeds. Yeah, okay, that's

779
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: what you just called. You like that we're up in

780
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: people's feeds, which sounds weirder than I think you intended.

781
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: But I like it, you know I would like it.

782
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Speaker 2: Can I ask you something ahead of the recruiting episode?

783
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: Please?

784
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 2: Where are you as a recruitnik right now? Because there

785
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: is nobody. There is nobody who over the past ten

786
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: fifteen years, as recruiting in college football has changed pretty dramatically,

787
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: with realignment, with nil, with transferring, with you know, the

788
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: amount of attention in the recruiting world, there's nobody who

789
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: is exactly as tuned in a in an extreme way

790
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Speaker 2: in either direction as they were in say twenty eleven,

791
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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. Right, it's something that like you get hurt

792
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: badly because you're so in or you get so excited

793
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: and everything, all of your wildest dreams can come true

794
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: of players that have no experience playing college football, right,

795
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: so that it's recruiting fandom has to go in waves

796
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: for everybody. Right that you're like, you haven't paid attention

797
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: to it for a while, the things are looking kind

798
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: of God, I'm sticking back in or I've just been

799
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: hurt too, many times. We'll see what happens on signing day.

800
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm not paying attention all year long. Where are you

801
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: as Notre Dame Penn State National recruit Nick?

802
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: You know where I stand on recruiting as a whole.

803
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: Recruiting as a whole for almost the full duration of

804
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: this show has been something I brushed up on as

805
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: I needed to.

806
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

807
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: Obviously I know well enough here that recruiting is the

808
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: lifeblood of the sport.

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00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

810
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: Right, you have to follow recruiting. You have to start

811
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: at that base level if you want to know who's

812
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: going to be good and who isn't going to be good.

813
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, we follow it, probably to a

814
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: greater degree than most casual fans, right, we have to.

815
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: That's just the nature of the beast here. But it

816
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: was never anything I was too passionate about because there's

817
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: just too much activity, too much moving in shape totally.

818
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: But now this added layer of nil on the recruiting

819
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: side has made things more interesting. It's made it interesting, right.

820
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you hear if you go on any message board,

821
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Speaker 1: you hear the rumblings of switching recruitments, switching commitments, de

822
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: committing things, like that. Because of NIL money. You hear

823
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: the impact that the transfer portal has started to have

824
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: on the recruiting world as well. Guys go in places

825
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: that maybe they don't want to go anymore. Now the roster,

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00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: the depth chart looks a little bit cloudier than it

827
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: did when they originally committed. So I have definitely taken

828
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: up a new appreciation in recruiting, if only because of

829
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: these outside variables that have been introduced into the sport.

830
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: I understand why people hate it. I may come to

831
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: hate it if and when Notre Dame finds a quarterback

832
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: that I feel good about who maybe is thinking of

833
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: going to USC to play for Lincoln Riley and whin

834
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: a Heisman and go to the NFL, I could be

835
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: there before long, but at least at time of recording.

836
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Speaker 1: At time of recording here December of the nineteenth, I'm

837
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: all in. I'm all in. I started paying attention in

838
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: the way that I have not paid attention before. That's

839
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: not just with the portal, that's not just with NIL,

840
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: but that's with actually reading these websites and trying to

841
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: imbibe all things recruiting.

842
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: So how during this Marcus Freeman full process, his first

843
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: full cycle, which is not really the full cycle. The

844
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: full cycle is like a two three year thing. But

845
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: how closely have you paid attention this last year of

846
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: Marcus Freeman? How closely have you paid attention to Penn

847
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: State's current class?

848
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Speaker 1: Like are you.

849
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 2: Anytime anybody commits? Do you know anytime anybody decommits? Anytime

850
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: there are rumors about, oh, this guy's visiting, this guy

851
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: took a secret visit, this guy canceled his visit last second, Like,

852
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: are you up to like the day with those kinds

853
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: of things.

854
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: On that date?

855
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

856
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: No, we're not getting real time alerts, We're not at

857
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: that level, but we are definitely checking in once twice

858
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: a week at this point, And as we've gotten closer

859
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: to the activity now with obviously transfers, with early signing

860
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: day things of that nature, it's been more of a

861
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: frequent check in, So not real time alerts, but definitely

862
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Speaker 1: fo enough of the real time accounts on Twitter that

863
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Speaker 1: if I'm not reading about it a few days after

864
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Speaker 1: the fact, I just happen upon it in the normal

865
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: flow of news and whatever else that I'm reading, So

866
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Speaker 1: definitely paying closer attention to it, because.

867
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Speaker 2: Does it affect you well, like so so like Notre

868
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 2: Dame lost its biggest commitment, right they lost Keon Keeley down.

869
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: I don't know every name. Sorry I apologize, but yes,

870
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Speaker 2: a big time edge guy from is he from Florida

871
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: and he's not going to go to Alabama? Does that

872
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: affect you? I'm not talking about like you spiking your

873
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: phone or something like that, but will you see that

874
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: news that he's decommitting and like feel something?

875
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I will, I will. And to that end,

876
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: there have been rumors of other potential commitments on the

877
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame side that you know, maybe are are dipping

878
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: their toes and foreign waters. I feel I feel that

879
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know that, Just that just irks me.

880
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: For for as much as I love the transfer portal

881
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: and appreciate this new era of guys moving and shaking

882
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: and the AAU thing every year, having to put together

883
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: a roster kind of on the fly, For as much

884
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: as I love that, it does hurt when it happens

885
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, it just it just kind of irks you.

886
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: I have I've put up some guard in previous years,

887
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: and I let down my guard for the first full

888
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: cycle of Dan Lanning, and at the time of recording,

889
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: it appears that Oregon is going to lose the jewel

890
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: of their class to UCLA quarterback Dante More. And I'm

891
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: very confident because especially Dan Lanning did well in the portal.

892
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: So like you can tell yourself it's okay, they can

893
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: fill in gaps in other ways, but.

894
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: You lose the jewel, you lose a.

895
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: Couple of jewels, like I think it appears, and I

896
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: we're what forty eight hours ahead of things, but like

897
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: I have been affected, I haven't heard it.

898
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way around it. I don't

899
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: think there's anyway around it.

900
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: If you are going to it all, pay attention to recruiting,

901
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: and I don't care if you're an Ohio State fan

902
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: who just lost I think a twenty twenty four five

903
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: star quarterback, you're an Alabama fan, a Georgia fan, maybe

904
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 2: not a Georgia fan short of Georgia. If you let

905
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: yourself get pulled into recruiting news, it's very difficult to

906
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: do halfway, and it's one hundred percent impossible to not

907
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: let it hurt you.

908
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent impossible. So like case in point

909
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: the North Carolina rumors around Drake May. Yeah, everybody wants

910
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: Drake May. Who wouldn't court Drake May? Even Devin Leary, Right,

911
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: Devin Leary was very, very good when he was healthy

912
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: for NC State. Devin Leary has obviously thrown his name

913
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: in the portal. I would love to have Devon Leary

914
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: on my team. That possibility is what keeps me going

915
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: back for more news. Right, It's like golf. You get

916
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: one of them, one good shot, Oh yeah, okay, Now

917
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: I want to play every day. But if you're on

918
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: the Drake May side of things, if you're a Carolina fan,

919
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: that will he won't heat that constant curiosity about what

920
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: is this kid thinking?

921
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: He is clearly deep. Message board rumors mess it right.

922
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: He has declared that he's going to stick around with UNC,

923
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: that he's a tar heel forever. Good. That's that's great,

924
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: But I do fear that day when that happens to

925
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: one of my teams where you've had that quarterback that

926
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: everybody knows is the real deal and just the nature

927
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: of the beast. Now I think it was Washington State.

928
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: Their coach Jake Dickard said it. You know, there's so

929
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: much tampering going on now that it's it's hard to

930
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: keep track of and this is what it should be.

931
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: And you know every coach is going to echo I

932
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: think similar sentiment. But I do fear that day when

933
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: that happens to me, it will happen at some point.

934
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Speaker 1: It's odd.

935
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Speaker 2: That was the first, like real oddity to me that

936
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Speaker 2: Drake May that there was never a public intention of

937
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: like I'm entering the portal that out of nowhere he

938
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: had to affirm, yeh star quarterback freshman legacy at North

939
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: Carolina had to affirm, of course I'm staying with North Carolina.

940
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: That that that had to be made because of the

941
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: noise around the new reality of Drake Mays were something

942
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: crazy and if North Carolina is not willing to figure

943
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: out the funds, somebody will. It's and now so I

944
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: mentioned that it's Dante more that had that has been

945
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 2: committed to Oregon forever, and it seems overwhelming that he

946
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: is going to go to UCLA now though I'm balancing man,

947
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: he seemed like the cornerback of the future. What a

948
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: bummer with Well, if UCLA is paying him a crazy

949
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: amount of money or somebody affiliated with UCLA good for him.

950
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: I mean, what am I going to tell it? It's

951
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: not my money either way. And if he has value

952
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: and he's maximizing his value at a very precarious sport physically,

953
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: good for that guy.

954
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: Man.

955
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, like, how can I be upset about that?

956
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: Good for him? And you can be upset about what

957
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: it means for the sport and where talent goes. But

958
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, good for him.

959
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: No, that's all new reality, man, new reality. So listen,

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Speaker 1: everybody out there, enjoy this first full week of bowl games.

961
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Speaker 1: We're going to be back again two days time from now,

962
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: talking through all things recruiting, trying to bring you up

963
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: to speed as best we can. As we go into

964
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Speaker 1: next week, we will have more Bowl previews, more Bowl

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Speaker 1: previews about some of the bigger games that are coming

966
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Speaker 1: up a little bit later on in the cycle. In

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Speaker 1: addition to the new Year's six in the College Football Playoff,

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Speaker 1: you have that to look forward to next week. Beyond that,

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Speaker 1: Dan again going out to saliver Butlive dot Com. Come

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Speaker 1: So I have for that guy over there, my good

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Speaker 1: friend Dan Rubinstein, for my t I hope her. Thanks

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Speaker 1: again for download and listening, playing long at home, enjoy

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Speaker 1: your week, talking in a few days. Stay soul peace,