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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

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Speaker 3: What is a straight firefam It's me Jason McIntire, Straight

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Speaker 3: Fire for Tuesday, April twenty fifth. You can tell there

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Speaker 3: is excitement in the air.

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Speaker 1: Ah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, ladies and gentlemen. Longtime listeners of the podcast listen.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's the NBA playoffs, Lebron, Jimmy Butler, A lot

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Speaker 3: to talk about you Mongus games on Monday night in

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Speaker 3: the Association, folks. Just an incredible night of basketball has had.

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Speaker 3: But I have to start here as a guy who

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Speaker 3: was born in New York who has rooted for the

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Speaker 3: Jets since probably like the mid eighties, Kenny O'Brien, al toon,

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Speaker 3: Wesley Walker, Freeman McNeil. It's been a long time since

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Speaker 3: we've had like a juggernaut of an offense. And as

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Speaker 3: I was recording a podcast interview on Monday with Lancerline,

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Speaker 3: NFL draft expert from NFL Network, the news came across

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Speaker 3: and you'll hear later my real time. OMG, we finally

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Speaker 3: got Aaron Rodgers. You'll hear that live while we record.

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Speaker 3: We recorded earlier Monday. Because Lance is a super busy guy.

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Speaker 3: I had a busy afternoon on Monday myself, and you'll

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Speaker 3: hear the real time reaction. But now that I've had

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Speaker 3: some time to think about it, dig in, look at

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Speaker 3: the roster, look at the opponents. I think I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: I obviously have to be upfront. Yes, there was a

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Speaker 3: moment where I was not keen on Aaron Rodgers. I

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Speaker 3: would prefer Lamar Jackson, and who wouldn't. Okay, you're talking

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Speaker 3: about a guy who's younger considerably. You're talking about a

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Speaker 3: guy who is a dual threat quarterback in his prime,

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Speaker 3: entering his prime, whatever you want to call it. Like

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is ascending in this league. Aaron Rodgers we

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Speaker 3: all know, is on the downswing. He is not near

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Speaker 3: the end of his career. But like, let's be realistic,

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Speaker 3: Like the guy's turning, he's was he thirty nine years old?

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Speaker 3: I think he turns forty in December. I'll check it

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Speaker 3: out right now. But by the line, Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 3: old af' that's the reality. And he's sick of Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: They're clearly sick of him. Yes, Aaron Rodgers, thirty nine,

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Speaker 3: turns forty on December second. This is Brett Farvre part

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Speaker 3: duh The Lakers got Brett Favre after he had an

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Speaker 3: issue with his team. He was waffling, do I want

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Speaker 3: got sick of it. They wouldn't trade him in the division.

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Speaker 3: He goes to the Jets. It was a brief honeymoon,

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Speaker 3: and then he was allegedly injured, even though he didn't

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Speaker 3: miss any games. Next thing, you know, he leaves, He

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Speaker 3: goes to Minnesota. They go to the NFC Championship and

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Speaker 3: the Jets, you know, that was it. They had a

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Speaker 3: And now they get Aaron Rodgers. And are we going

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Speaker 3: to see a duplication of that or we're gonna see

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Speaker 3: a motivated Rogers. We don't know all that. That's the problem.

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Speaker 3: It's April. We got May, June, July. We got four

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Speaker 3: months before we can realistically get remotely excited about this.

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Speaker 3: I am excited at just the idea that the Jets

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Speaker 3: go into this season having a chance like we legitimately

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Speaker 3: the New York Jets are legitimately contenders in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Are they top tier contenders with the Chiefs?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Are they top tier contenders with the Bengals. No, are

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Speaker 3: they contenders with the Buffalo Bills. And I'm sure some

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Speaker 3: people will disagree vehemently, but I am more than willing

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Speaker 3: New York Jets are right there with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: I do believe they have passed the Miami Dolphins. Miami

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Speaker 3: doesn't have any defensive talent. They're not an defensive team.

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Speaker 3: They've got offensive skills. I know they invested in defense,

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Speaker 3: doesn't always translate, but the reality is the Jets have

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Speaker 3: a better team, a better roster than the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: That's a fact. You guys can argue a Dolphins fans

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Speaker 3: They have a really good team. A great quarterback who's

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Speaker 3: I think they've certainly they're at minimum a wildcard team.

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Speaker 3: a wildcard team. The question is can they win the division?

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Speaker 3: And listen, you guys want to stack up rosters, fine,

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Speaker 3: and miamiy Offpens any day of the week. Skill position

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Speaker 3: players Aaron Rodgers, Breise Hall, who was on track to

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Speaker 3: be Rookie of the year, Garrett Wilson, who was the

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Speaker 3: offensive rookie of the year, Corey Davis. You know a

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Speaker 3: Mikole Hardman again, mi Cole Hartman is like their fourth receiver.

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Speaker 3: it if they signed Quentin Williams, Carl lost in, Jermaine

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Speaker 3: incredible last year. And yes, I know they faced some

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Speaker 3: backup quarterbacks. I get that. The reality is, when you

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Speaker 3: look at the AFC, the Jets are without a doubt

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Speaker 3: you can say, well, it could go one of two ways.

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Speaker 3: Jay and Rogers could look old, he could be uninterested,

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Speaker 3: things go south. Yeah, the schedule is gonna matter significantly.

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Speaker 3: It will when you play them. We know who they play,

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Speaker 3: but when you play the matters, and for my money,

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Speaker 3: they didn't give up a ton for Rogers. Again, the

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Speaker 3: deal is the Jets and Packers swap first round picks

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Speaker 3: They give up number forty two in the first round,

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Speaker 3: So a couple things here are obviously true. A. This

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Speaker 3: don't think anybody thinks Joe Namath was a better passer

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Speaker 3: Rodgers first ballot Hall of Famer Brett Farv. I consider

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Speaker 3: people think it's close Rogers is just incredible. Jason, why

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Speaker 3: did you do a one to eighty. Well, of course,

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Speaker 3: I'm a fan of the Jets. You know, I'm a

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Speaker 3: I don't love the Jets getting Rogers over Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 3: but it seems like they didn't want Lamar. Maybe they

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Speaker 3: know something I don't. So of course I'm gonna totally

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, guys, I do believe this is

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Speaker 3: a team getting to the Super Bowl. Would not show. Now,

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Speaker 3: Last year at this time, did anybody anyone say the

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Speaker 3: not the Jets. Now, I know the AFC's a minefield,

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Speaker 3: not great on the offensive line. Jets are not great

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Patriots are any more close in

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Speaker 3: so you're paying an inflative price. But I don't know, guys,

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Speaker 3: in contention, assuming Aaron Rodgers is healthy. When he's been healthy,

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Speaker 3: the Packers have always been good when he's been healthy.

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Speaker 3: We know this. The Packers have been good and it's

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Speaker 3: going to be a fun season for my New York Jets.

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Speaker 3: All right now, we got to move to the NBA

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Speaker 3: where it was the action was just unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: And unbelievable, folks, maybe under selling it. Consider this. Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Butler scores fifty six points, the fourth most in a

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Speaker 3: The Heat are down twelve with six h nine left,

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Speaker 3: didn't matter. Jimmy Butler went off, just an unbelievable performance

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Speaker 3: for the fact that Lebron upstags Jimmy Butler with the

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Speaker 3: oldest twenty twenty game in NBA history. Twenty two points

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Speaker 3: they give me forty. I don't know Lebron had a

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty game. Does that count as forty? Mister Brooks,

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Speaker 3: Dylan Brooks, who wears that necklace around his neck, dB,

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Speaker 3: Even though Lebron haters had to be like, my gosh,

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Speaker 3: At age thirty eight, you guys know Jordan was retired twice.

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Speaker 3: this Saturday morning radio show Fox Sports Radio and I'll

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Speaker 3: stuff as usual and on the radio back. This tweet

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Speaker 3: guy that's only going to get better. Gimme Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 3: over Kawhi Leonard twenty eighteen. Jimmy Butler plays, he plays hard,

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Speaker 3: everybody's trying to roast me, Jimmy Butler over Kawhi Leonard. Ah. Yes,

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Speaker 3: but I'll tell you right now, Kawhi does not have

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Speaker 3: Fifty six points, Folks. The Milwaukee Bucks were the favorites

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Speaker 3: At one point, Butler had twenty straight points. Like this

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Speaker 3: It's almost like we forget that they lost that game,

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Speaker 3: Like Jordan was unbelievable. He had sixty three points. Of

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Speaker 3: mid rage Assassin. This this was a different kind of dominance.

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Speaker 3: This was Jimmy Butler against the number one seed. Giannis

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Speaker 3: in every important position. That's what's gonna happen next series. Now,

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler's not going to be able to finish this

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Speaker 3: But I did need to give my guy, Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 3: a shout out. You know, I'm a huge fan. Guy's

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Speaker 3: an incredible talent, Jimmy Butler and Lebron And now you

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Speaker 3: get a special treat because you've waded through twenty fifteen

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Speaker 3: minutes of NBA chatter. We're going back to the NFL

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Speaker 3: and to Lancer Line of the NFL Network, who's going

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Speaker 3: to break down the draft and some fascinating things happening

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Speaker 3: at the top, as well as real time reaction to

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Speaker 3: the Aaron Rodgers trade as it happens.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

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Speaker 2: listen live. You know, Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 2: everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 1: I know what sports fans.

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Speaker 2: Want, but for everything he doesn't, he knows a guy

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Speaker 2: who does.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 1: guy who knows another guy.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's welcome into straight fire a special guest

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Speaker 3: Draft week. We got to go big or go home, right,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of what his team has to do it too,

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Speaker 3: and I say his kind of ingest lancer line. NFL

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Speaker 3: Network been all over the draft for many, many years. Lance,

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Speaker 3: How you doing, man, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: Jason, how are we doing, man?

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I'm great. I'm a Jets fan. We're

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Speaker 3: about to get Aaron Rodgers via trade. We're not going

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Speaker 3: to give up too much, I think, and then we'll

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Speaker 3: get an offensive lineman in the top fifteen and we'll

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Speaker 3: be good to go, right, back to the playoffs for

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Speaker 3: my Jets.

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Speaker 1: What about what about a running what about a wide receiver?

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Speaker 1: What if you got Jackson Smith and Jigo would you

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Speaker 1: be happy with that?

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Speaker 3: I was happy with that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Wow, are you hearing something?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying I think there's I'm just

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've been mocking them with a with a

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Speaker 1: tackle as well, So I'm just throwing out a different scenario.

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Speaker 1: What if what if you get another weapon for Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that would make him happy.

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Speaker 3: So that would be Garrett Wilson, who was tremendous as

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Speaker 3: a rookie. That would be who's your tight end? Geez,

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Speaker 3: I'm spacing on.

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Speaker 2: Him right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, the running back Briest Hole's coming back. That's the

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Speaker 3: big for the Jets. But in a perfect scenario, yes,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers going to Garrett Wilson, Jackson Smith, Nojigba, Alan

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Speaker 3: Lazard who they got. Corey Davis is too with the

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Speaker 3: team for now? Mi Coole Hardman, the tight ends Conklin

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Speaker 3: and Uzama, Like, is that a top five offense in

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Speaker 3: the AFC?

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Speaker 1: It's the line molds not I mean, it has to

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Speaker 1: be on paper it is. I mean you didn't have

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Speaker 1: hard men, you do, you know, and Jigba has to

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Speaker 1: still play football. But Lazard has a relationship with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: You know. The whole thing is getting big ticket healthy

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Speaker 1: and playing. And right now, that's why you and I

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Speaker 1: are talking about offensive line because you just don't know

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna get from him. So you could look

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Speaker 1: at a right tackle, you know, and just hope that

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Speaker 1: he'll be okay at left tackle. But I know they

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Speaker 1: like Max Mitchell, and I think more likely if they

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Speaker 1: look tackle, it's going to be you know, a guy

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Speaker 1: who might be able to fill in at Max's spot

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Speaker 1: if Beckton is healthy. But you just can't assume Becton's

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Speaker 1: health at this point. So that's why so many of

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Speaker 1: us are putting tackle to the Jets right now, picked

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Speaker 1: thirt because you don't really have any choice. You just

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Speaker 1: you have to try to protect Aaron Rodgers, who we

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Speaker 1: all presume is that that deals getting done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the backup left tackle to Beckton

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Speaker 3: is Dwayne Brown, who's collecting Social Security, like maybe the

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Speaker 3: check just came in this Yeah, yeah, he has. But

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Speaker 3: let's go to your tea, well, a team in your

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Speaker 3: city Houston Texans drafting two. It feels like that's where

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Speaker 3: the draft begins. Would we agree Bryce Young, who's heavy

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Speaker 3: betting favorite to go number one? Bryce Young goes first, right,

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Speaker 3: unless you expect a curveball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Bryce Young is gone one, I'd say. I'd say, certainly,

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young is going one. I feel very very confident

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 3: Two is where it gets interesting. So let me throw

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Speaker 3: three scenarios at you. Number one, as you could take

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Speaker 3: a quarterback Stroud, who you have a lot of info on,

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Speaker 3: or Levis Anthony richardson Dark Horse whatever. Two is, you

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Speaker 3: go defensive player. I have it as Jalen Carter on

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Speaker 3: my Fox Sports mock or Will Anderson if that's your

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Speaker 3: cup of tea. And three would be trade down. I don't.

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Speaker 3: My guess is nobody want to trade up to two

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Speaker 3: for defensive players, so you'd have to love a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that happens.

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Speaker 1: Four.

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Speaker 3: How about this one defensive player you trade for Trey

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Speaker 3: Lance and then add on a return to Houston. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you would. DeAndre Hopkin. Could you see

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Speaker 3: one of those scenarios playing out this week?

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Speaker 1: I absolutely could, And I think if you don't go

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Speaker 1: quarterback at two, And I think that not going to

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Speaker 1: quarterback at two is a very real possibility. If you

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Speaker 1: don't go quarterback at two, you have to figure out

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Speaker 1: quarterback at some point. Now it may not be this year,

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Speaker 1: but everyone going through this quarterback that quarterback. If it

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Speaker 1: were Bryce Young, they take Bryce Young's and that's good.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're done. But if they don't love Will

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Speaker 1: Levis or Richardson or now, well, let me go through

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Speaker 1: the scenario Richardson, Levis or c J. Stroud a pick two,

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Speaker 1: then how are they going to make that pick? Like,

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Speaker 1: how can you make a guy that you don't make

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Speaker 1: a pick for a guy that you don't believe in

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Speaker 1: or maybe your offensive staff doesn't believe in them, or

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Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. You really can't do that.

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Speaker 1: So let's say they go defense, and I'd throw Tyree

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Speaker 1: Wilson in the mix over there pick number two as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so let's throw Tyree Wilson in the mix over there.

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Speaker 1: And let's say they go end up going defensive player

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Speaker 1: number two. Then you got this scenario. What do you

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Speaker 1: do at twelve? You could go another defensive player, Lucas

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Speaker 1: van Ness. You could go with Nolan Smith, Miles Murphy,

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Speaker 1: any number of players where Demigo Ryan says, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get our front completely changed and our defense is going

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Speaker 1: to get after it, you know, and we're gonna try

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Speaker 1: to win with defense with Damian Pierce running the football,

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Speaker 1: and we'll handle the quarterback situation down the road. I

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Speaker 1: think the Tree Lance thing has to be discussed. I

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Speaker 1: think Mac Jones has to be discussed because I believe

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Speaker 1: that where they're smoke, there's fire, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: Mac is really happy there, and I'm not sure Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick is happy with Mac. So why not Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: potentially running this offense. It's the offense that's a carryover

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Speaker 1: from San Francisco's offense. I think Mack could run it

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Speaker 1: and run it pretty effectively. So I think Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: another name Trey Lance obviously has the San Francisco connection.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's really hard to find another one. I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Texans will be involved in Lamar Jackson sweepstakes,

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Speaker 1: especially after what happened with Deshaun Watson paying that much

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Speaker 1: money and having him bail so or you know, you

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Speaker 1: could look at a quarterback in the middle rounds. That's

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Speaker 1: an offense that seems to believe that they can just

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Speaker 1: find guys to run it. I'm not necessarily of that mind.

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Speaker 1: Or you could just punt. You could just punt until

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Speaker 1: next year and then figure things out next year. Once again,

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Speaker 1: I think trade is a very real possibility because the

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Speaker 1: Texans have two first rounders next year as well, so

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Speaker 1: they have enough firepower to get through this year while

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Speaker 1: there's a honeymoon period with Demiko Ryans Jason and then

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Speaker 1: attack quarterback next year's trade for a veteran Lance.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask, so Demiico Ryans has been in San

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Speaker 3: Francisco before Houston. He has to know what Trey Lance

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Speaker 3: is about. Is he the first guy in, last guy

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Speaker 3: out or the opposite? Is the work ethic? Then? Is

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Speaker 3: he talented? Is it? Oh my gosh, this guy's a project?

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Speaker 3: Does it say something if the Texans aren't involved in

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Speaker 3: trade talks around Tree Lance?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Is it kind of an indictment of Lance?

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Speaker 1: Possibly because Bobby Slowik is their offensive coordinator and he

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Speaker 1: was the passing game you know, assistant basically to to

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. So yeah, I would say that's possible for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you saw the Texans and the Titans

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Speaker 1: Ran cart and their new general manager came over from

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Those are the two teams that you should

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Speaker 1: be plugging in with potential Trey Lance. It'd be the Titans,

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Speaker 1: and to be the Texans because they have San Francisco

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Speaker 1: ties there, Demiico Riots Bobby Slowik and then ran Carthon

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Speaker 1: is the GM. And if neither one of those teams

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Speaker 1: look out for him, that would be like, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: would be a red flag for me that they just

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Speaker 1: don't think either A he can stay healthier, B that

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Speaker 1: he'll be ready by the time the contracts up. And

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna be you know, you're gonna be stuck

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out do we had a fifth year?

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Speaker 1: Do we give him a second contract?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What does a second contract look for him? So that's

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Speaker 1: it's a tricky situation. But I do think Lance should

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Speaker 1: be a potential option for teams who don't like this draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned Tyree Wilson. What's up with the foot?

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Speaker 2: Is?

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Speaker 3: Are is medicals all clear? I gotta be honest too,

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Speaker 3: seems a little rich? Would you take him over? Jalen Carter? Who?

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Speaker 1: Well? I mean to me, it's a Willie Anderson question,

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Speaker 1: I mean Jalen Carter. I've got as a top rated

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Speaker 1: player on the board, But Jalen Carter's not going until

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Speaker 1: like I think fifth or sixth that the earliest, and

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Speaker 1: could fall as far as ten. The character on him

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Speaker 1: is just a concern, and I don't think the Texans

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Speaker 1: are going to be in on Jalen Carter. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they they are. I just don't think they're going

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Speaker 1: to take that shot with Jalen Carter. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that they feel like they have enough leader, established leadership

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Speaker 1: in the building to trust to guide him in the

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Speaker 1: right direction. It's still a team that is light from

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Speaker 1: a from a the standpoint of not only leadership, but

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Speaker 1: just building out the roster. So I think that's a

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Speaker 1: very important part. Like Philadelphia has Nacob Dan and Jordan Davis,

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Speaker 1: who both played with him at Georgia. That's why they

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Speaker 1: make so much sense. And that's why I could see

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Speaker 1: Philly made me saying hey, let's move from you know,

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Speaker 1: ten to five and let's go get him ahead of

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Speaker 1: ahead of Detroit, possibly because that's one of the places

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Speaker 1: that he's rumored to go. So I could see something

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Speaker 1: like that happening as well with the Texans. So I've

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Speaker 1: heard that the foot is good. Not from the Texans,

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Speaker 1: but I've heard that the foot checks out with doctor

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Speaker 1: James Andrews and his staff. Foot's not a problem. However,

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Speaker 1: he didn't work out for the draft, and there are

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Speaker 1: some teams who really want to see you work out.

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Speaker 1: They want to see your height, your weight, your length.

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Speaker 1: Again after you know, especially your height, I mean especially

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Speaker 1: your weight. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, wait a second on the comments, what do you

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Speaker 3: mean didn't work out for anyone anywhere?

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Speaker 1: Well, he's got the foot, so he said nothing, no,

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Speaker 1: and that's the problem.

642
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Speaker 3: Oh gee, I didn't realize it was that bleak. I mean,

643
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: I know he's sitting out the combine obviously and the

644
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: pro day, but I thought he at this point would

645
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: be doing something for team.

646
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god. No, no, but I think he comes in.

647
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: But he's not hitting bags for anyone that I know of.

648
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he's doing I don't think he's doing

649
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: that for any of the teams. I could be wrong.

650
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: So that's a great question. Let me ask. So you

651
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: just mentioned the character stuff for Jalen Carter, You mentioned

652
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: the injury for Wilson Demiko Ryans is now in the room.

653
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: They give him a big contract. He's clearly going to

654
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: be around longer than the last couple of guys. Right,

655
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: what if he's pounding the table. I want my guy.

656
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: I'm a defensive coach. Look what we did in San Franz.

657
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: The blueprint is there. Let's go Carter two.

658
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you he's gonna be there longer

659
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: than Nick Cassio is gonna be there. Okay, So to me,

660
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: the owners will say, Dimiko gets who he wants.

661
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: Now.

662
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: I've heard that the Demiico has control the forty five,

663
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: meaning you know, the game day roster, and that Nick

664
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: Cassio has control the fifty three, which means the final roster. However,

665
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: I do believe that Tomiko Ryans will be able to

666
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: get his pick. And you know, here's something else. I

667
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: think Nick Casario is gonna be there. I think if

668
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: Nick Cassario wants to continue to be at the Texans,

669
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: he and Demiko have to really mesh and gel, and

670
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: one of the best ways to do that is let

671
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: the defensive head coach get his players in the first round.

672
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: I think that's a you know, it just makes sense

673
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: for me. From a personality standpoint that you want to say, Hey, Demiko,

674
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: why don't you get the guy you want? And then

675
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: maybe they build a good rapport this year and he

676
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: sticks around. But you know, Dimiko could also say, hey,

677
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: there's some other guys that I'd love to have down

678
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: here in Houston as general manager, and then Nick Casario

679
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: will get a big paycheck to leave. But so that's

680
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: why I think ultimately Demiko Ryans will be able to

681
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: make this pick unless the owner makes this pick. And

682
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: if Kalming their steps in to make a pick, it's

683
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: going to be for quarterback. It ain't gonna be for

684
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: a certain defensive end. It's going to be for quarterback.

685
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: That's the only way they well I shouldn't say they go,

686
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: they go quarterback. If the owner steps in, that means

687
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: he wants a quarterback, and it will be I think CJ. Stroud,

688
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where this will Levs team came from,

689
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I just something sounds just

690
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: something strange with the will Levis thing, and I had

691
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's been floated out there by by someone

692
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: in the football world that this could be someone doing

693
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: will Levis's agent a solid and just kind of leaking

694
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: some stuff to kind of push the Will Levis hype up.

695
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: Then maybe he'll get drafted higher than expected. But I'm

696
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: not buying Levis to Houston, to be honest with you.

697
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: Not into Yeah, a lot of these gambling odds, you know,

698
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: they're low, extremely low limits for NFL draft because they

699
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: know that inside information moves everything. So I think they're

700
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: being overly protective. This Will Levis on Monday morning moving

701
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: up to the highest odds to be the second overall pick.

702
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: That's bupkus, I think. Now let me ask you, though

703
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: you said the owner would probably go Stroud, I think

704
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: it was you Lance that I heard say that Stroud's

705
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: agent is the same one that Deshaun Watson has. That

706
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: Is that accurate or am I wrong?

707
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: That's no, it's accurate, Okay, Yeah, And why and that's

708
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: why I think that could That's one of the reasons

709
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: I didn't put C. J. Stroud at number two in

710
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: my mock three point. I was the first one not

711
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: to have Stroud young one too, because I just tried

712
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: to put a bunch of things together and I just said,

713
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, there's enough here that I could see and

714
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: I've been doing draft stuff long enough to know that

715
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't go according to Hoyle, especially in this top ten.

716
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: This top ten is just ragging, and it's hard to

717
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: predict what it's going to be. We don't really have

718
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: a true knockdown, drag out number one offensive tackle or

719
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: special cornerback. You know, the pass rushers, there's like people

720
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: like Will Will Anderson. They're not like in love with him.

721
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a weird year. And a Jaylen

722
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Carter of course, total wildcard. So now you look at that,

723
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: and I started saying, man, I could see the Texans

724
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: just passing on him because they don't want to mess

725
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: with the same agent. And so when I put Tyree

726
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: Wilson at number two, it caused the whole mock draft

727
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: to kind of explode, and I had Anthony and Richardson

728
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: at fourteen. Now I also had the Colts getting Lamar Jackson,

729
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: So this is like three weeks ago. So I had

730
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: the Colts basically getting Lamar Jackson and the Ravens getting

731
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: the fourth pick and taking Stroud. So I've had Stroud

732
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: going number four, but you know, the owner, one of

733
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: two things is going to happen. Either the owner says, hey,

734
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: our problems were with Deshaun Watson, they're not with the

735
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: agent will take the quarterback here c J. Stroud, Or

736
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: the owner will say I'm just gonna go with whatever

737
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: the building says, and whoever they go with, I'm good with.

738
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: Or the owner could step in and say, I do not,

739
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: under any circumstances, what want CJ. Stroud. One of those

740
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: three scenarios is going to happen. I don't know which

741
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: one it is. My guess would be, based on his personality,

742
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: that the owner just stays out of it and lets

743
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: the team just figure out who they think will help

744
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: them win the most.

745
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: Not to bring it back to the Jets lands, but

746
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 3: since you mentioned lockdown cornerback at the top, there isn't one.

747
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 3: Last year, Texans took Stingley at three and the Jets

748
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: took Sauce Gardner at four. You know Pro Football Focus

749
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 3: had the numbers. Obviously Gardner was incredible. I thought Stingley

750
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: had kind of a rough year. I'm just curious, A,

751
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: do you know how that draft pick went down? And

752
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: B do you think Stingley can kind of bounce back?

753
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 3: The numbers weren't awful on him last year? I don't think,

754
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: but I from the eye test, I didn't think he

755
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: was great when I watched him.

756
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: No, So so here's the thing. Here's how I went

757
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: down the Texans. I had Stingley going three to the Texans.

758
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: So I hit that one. And the reason I did

759
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: was from not from the Texans. My LSU source said, Lance,

760
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: they are really doing a lot of homework. The Texans

761
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: are on Stingley. And I heard that and I said, okay, cool,

762
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: and I didn't think much of it. And then it

763
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: was probably two weeks later he said, Lance, they're really

764
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: doing a lot of work. Now, you got to remember,

765
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: in mock one point zero, way way back in January,

766
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: I had Stingley three to the Texans, or maybe three

767
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: or five. I had him five. I had him flip

768
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: flopping three and five, and I had Stingley five to

769
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: the Texans. And the reason was because I thought Nick

770
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: Asio might see Stingley as like another Stefan Gilmour, and

771
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: so I thought, you know, historically, maybe that would make

772
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: some sense. So I had Stefan. I had Stingley as

773
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: a possibility way in mock one, and then he kind

774
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: of fell off, and you know, he wasn't. He couldn't

775
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: do anything at the combine, and he kind of fell back.

776
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: And then my guy from LSU, probably two to three

777
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: weeks before the draft, kept saying Lance, they're sending this guy,

778
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, this guy. Like all the front

779
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: office went there, and so I decided to stick with it.

780
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: Where there's smoke with there was firing. Go was Stingley there?

781
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: Now for me, it's a sauce pick because here's the problem,

782
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: and you still have this problem. Jason Stingley was out

783
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: sometime and I think it was October, and he never

784
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: came back. The year before he was hurt early, never

785
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: came back. The year before that, he got hurt late,

786
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: never came back. Now, whether you think he was coasting

787
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: and didn't want to you know, hurt his draft stock

788
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: or whatever you think, it's just three straight years that

789
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 1: he didn't finish a season with a team, three straight

790
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: years and his best tape is still in twenty nineteen

791
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: pre pandemics, as a freshman at LSU. So that's problematic.

792
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: Now we've got two years at LSU and now a

793
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: full year with the Texans, well not a full year,

794
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: and that's the problem. We've got injuries and we've got

795
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: maybe he's not the same guy he once was. However,

796
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: to your question, I do believe that in Tamiico Ryan's

797
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: defense we could see the best version. It was not

798
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: Lovey's defense is not a good fit for Stingley. So

799
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: I would not give up on Steingley yet. But Sauce

800
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: was the guy last year. I mean, Sauce was special,

801
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: and there's some teams who think Devin Devon Witherspoon has

802
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: some of the same personality traits of Sauce that they

803
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: really like how much dog he has in them. So

804
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: that's why I think he's He's going to be the

805
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: top cornerback off the board, inside the top ten.

806
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: It's funny, about a month ago, I had Witherspoon eighteen

807
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: to the Lions because I had heard the Lions liked him,

808
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: and I instantly hear from somebody there's no chance he's

809
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: going eighteen, but the Lions could take him at six,

810
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 3: and it seems like that's where he's going to go.

811
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, so this Stingley stuff is interesting.

812
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 3: He's only turning twenty two. I didn't realize Pro Football

813
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: Focus had him one hundred and eleventh out of one

814
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen corners. That's not good.

815
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: A bad game against you know, the Broncos, but that's

816
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: not you know sometimes like he didn't give up a

817
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: tremendous I think some of that has to do with

818
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: how many snaps he had. And Stingley has to be

819
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: in a press man. He has to be in a

820
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: press system. He's got a press like. You can't have

821
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: him playing off too much. You can't have him in

822
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: cover two situations. He's a pressman corner who happens to

823
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: have really good ball skills once the ball goes up.

824
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: So we'll just see how much it means sustainingly this year.

825
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: This is a huge year for him. It's a huge year.

826
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: He's got to do something. This is we can't continue

827
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: to go another year and say, Okay, Stingley's best football

828
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: was when Joe Burrow was throwing sixty touchdowns or whatever

829
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: and Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson were still in college. Like,

830
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: we can't do that.

831
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: Let me quickly go back to quarterbacks. I think Daniel

832
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: Jeremiah came on here and was talking about the S

833
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: two test. Everybody's said a lot about the S two

834
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: it's the new wonder Lick. Nobody really mentioned in Wonder Lick,

835
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: and I believe you were the one who first had CJ.

836
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: Stroud did not do well on that. I don't know.

837
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: It's weird nobody's to come out and refuted it. What

838
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: do you want to elaborate on just the S two

839
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: and what you make of it? If anything?

840
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: S two is just to me. I didn't even know

841
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: about the S two until this year, and I did.

842
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 1: I did as deep a dive as I possibly could,

843
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: and I think the S two is really cool. I

844
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: think it's uh, you know, I don't know how I

845
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: would score on it, because any of us it's really

846
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: it's not an intelligence test. It's how quickly you process.

847
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: So what it does is there's three different factors. There's

848
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: three different factors that looks for. It looks for I

849
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: think a visual component recognizing something and then the transitional

850
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: recognizing to decision making. And in the third phase is

851
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: is impulse control and so. And there's different terminologies that

852
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Speaker 1: they'll use for that. But there's three tests for each

853
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: one of those buckets, so there's nine total tests. It's

854
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: on a computer. It's not really something you can study

855
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: for get a lot better at it's just you know,

856
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: what how you process is how you process. So you know,

857
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: what I found interesting being somebody who covers all sports

858
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: just like you do, is they've been around for a

859
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: while in professional baseball. They've worked with professional baseball teams,

860
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: and one of the things they really work on is

861
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: chase rates. And so what they found is that that

862
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Speaker 1: fifty percent of the people who were chasing the slider away,

863
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: for example, righty on righty, left on lefty, they did

864
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: it because they couldn't pick it up visually. But another

865
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Speaker 1: fifty percent had impulse control issues. So they found that

866
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: and so that's something that you maybe can train impulse control.

867
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Speaker 1: So I think what's really cool about the S two,

868
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: and I think it's getting kind of a bad name

869
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: right now because people are uncomfortable with some of the results.

870
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: But the S two it just measures how quickly you

871
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: process different things and in those three different buckets, and

872
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: so you know, different people process different Some people like

873
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: to be slower and more deliberate, and some people are instantaneous.

874
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: I know when I've played Madden before, back in the

875
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: back in the day, when I used to play old

876
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: school Madden, it was not hard now I find them Madden.

877
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: I don't even play it because there's just too much.

878
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: It's too realistic, like reading, and I find that I

879
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 1: don't process, and I'm an add person and I don't

880
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: process a bunch of things like you know in my face.

881
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: But I can think quickly. I'm sharp. But there's certain

882
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: things about the about my eyes going here here, here,

883
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: processing here here. But I was good with basketball, you

884
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So like basketball spacial relationships. I

885
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: was very good at recognizing uh spatial relationships and the

886
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: ability to get the ball to certain locations. And I

887
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: talked to one of the co creators of the S

888
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: two recognition test. He goes, exactly, that's you know. But

889
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: if you have good spatial relationship and you have a

890
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: healthy a healthy score in terms of your impulse control,

891
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: that can be very good. But here's the problem, Like

892
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: too many people are talking about this that don't know.

893
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: If you've got elite impulse control, you can also be

894
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: too conservative on the football field if you have poor

895
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: if you have a poor control impulse control, you might

896
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: be Jameis Winston or Eli Manning, but through a lot

897
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: of interception and so they only take the information there,

898
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: and then they tell the teams what it may mean,

899
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: and then the teams do the physical stuff, the mental stuff,

900
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: the interviews. So it's only a part of the puzzle.

901
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: That's all it is. And too many people I think

902
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: are making a big deal about it. However, I will

903
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: say this, Jason, fourteen teams supposedly subscribe. If you're a

904
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: team that really buys into it, low scores may it

905
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: may be a deal breaker for you if it's between

906
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: this quarterback and that quarterback.

907
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: It's funny. I have poor impulse control when it comes

908
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: to certain things, but then in chess I'm great because

909
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: I'm able to just sit back and play defensive. All right, Lance,

910
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 3: we got to wrap up here. But I keep looking

911
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: at my phone because it's blowing up. And it's because

912
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: as we're recording this, Aaron Rodgers is officially a Jet.

913
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if they've said it on your phone.

914
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: But here's the deal. I'm just curious your quick thoughts.

915
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: The Jets and Packers swap first rounders this year, so

916
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: the Packers get thirteen, the Jets slide down to fifteen.

917
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: The Jets get a fifth round pick next year. The

918
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: Packers get a second this year forty two, which was

919
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 3: the Browns pick, and and next year they get a

920
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: second round pick if Rogers plays sixty five percent of

921
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: the snaps.

922
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: Uh.

923
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: So we teased it at the beginning of the interview.

924
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: We'll bookend it with Rogers just knee jerk reaction. Are

925
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: think a playoff team in the AFC?

926
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Speaker 1: I think knee jerk reaction. Now, the Green Bay Packers

927
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: take a strong look at Jackson Smith and Jigba at thirteen.

928
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: I think that would be either him or a pass

929
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: rusher make a lot of sense over there. Tackle could

930
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: be in play over there for them. I'm trying to

931
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: think of what the what this does to the to

932
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: my mom?

933
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 3: So I had the Jets going with Broderick Jones from Georgia.

934
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I've been doing.

935
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: I think you can still be at fifteen, right, Oh?

936
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, thirteen to fifteen for sure, unless and I

937
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: don't I don't think Bill Belichick will take him there,

938
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: but he certainly could. I mean he usually if he's

939
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: going to draft an offensive or defensive lineman if you

940
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: don't draft in the first round, he's not afraid to

941
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: look at O line and D line. But I think

942
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: the Jets immediately, I would say maybe supersede the supersede

943
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. I just think there's too much concern

944
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: around to his health. So I think they passed the Dolphins.

945
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: I think they're right behind the Bills. Cincinnati obviously is

946
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: in play. Those are the and the and then obviously

947
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: you have Kansas City. So those those would be the

948
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: big four. In my estimation, Breese Hall was headed to

949
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: a Rookie of the Year. Ye Breese Hall was going

950
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: to be offensive Rookie of the Year. It turns out

951
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: to be Garrett Wilson. The defense of his amad you know,

952
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: is Sauce Gardner. That's three Jets from the.

953
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: Same Remember Garrett Wilson's catching passes from Sorry to be disrespectful,

954
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 3: kind of washed Flacco, Bomass, Zach Wilson, and Chris Streveler,

955
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: the tattooed Deebo Real Quick Packers their wide receiver room

956
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: right now, Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, Samurio Toure, and someone

957
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: named Bo Milton. So maybe you're onto something with JSM doesn't.

958
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: Give you the best chance for Jordan Love to succeed,

959
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: So that's why I think. But here's the thing, Green

960
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: Bay draft and wide receivers, good luck finding that in

961
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: the last two decades, like they just don't take them

962
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: in the first round. So will they break tradition and

963
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: have it? Ironically, when Aaron Rodgers leased and look, the

964
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: fact that they didn't is a shout out to to

965
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: Brett fav and Aaron Rodgers because they knew they could.

966
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: They could turn good receivers into great receivers with their

967
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame talent. So now the now, the strategy

968
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: might change now that they don't have a future Hall

969
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: of Famer under center, at least I don't think they do.

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00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: All right, Lancer Line, you got to follow them this week.

971
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 3: I must follow leading up to the draft. All the news.

972
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, good stuff as usual. Thanks for taking the time, Lance.

973
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it. Thanks Jason,