Speaker 1: We like to welcome everyone to another episode Against the
Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast, and I got my brother in tonight and tonight,
Speaker 1: James Um, we have a special guest Man All the
Speaker 1: Way from the East Coast. Man All the Way from
Speaker 1: the Marcy Projects. Um currently has a project out on
Speaker 1: CHEVTV and other streaming platforms. Marcy made mr to Haven Herby.
Speaker 1: That's up, what's up? What's up? My brother? Were go
Speaker 1: going right into this, Man, you were kind of swinging
Speaker 1: your hammer man in a real thumb. Pivotal time and
Speaker 1: ghettos all across America, man Um. When the correct epidemic hit, Man,
Speaker 1: it hit a lot of communities, and it almost seemed
Speaker 1: like to hit everybody count of like at the same time. Reaganomics.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, Reaganomics. Compton, you know, so whether you were
Speaker 1: in Compton, California, we even know how Detroit again, Um,
Speaker 1: you know Brooklyn, New York, where it almost sounded like
Speaker 1: it was playing that way. It actually happened that way
Speaker 1: because when when when the crank came out, you know,
Speaker 1: Nickers wasn't thinking about going out of state with it
Speaker 1: until that's saying you can come here, It'll be more
Speaker 1: money out here, and they can make money. So motherfucker's
Speaker 1: got on new buses and back then you be playing
Speaker 1: and fly and that's how everybody started gravitating a different STAPs,
Speaker 1: but popped up. It was just good. And when God
Speaker 1: looked up on going out of state, Castle is making
Speaker 1: it money fast. That's what happened. Exactly exactly what happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's a crazy time. But now on this show, man,
Speaker 1: we always talked about the West Coast at the things.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad we had the opportunity to bring
Speaker 1: you on here because you wanted the more authentic fellas.
Speaker 1: You know, you got a known history, right, tell us
Speaker 1: what it was like during that time when your side
Speaker 1: of the comfry man like Brown eighties, like the mid eighties. Man,
Speaker 1: it's it's like this, It's almost seemed like a lot
Speaker 1: of people had money. It was money in the streets period.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Um, you either was on
Speaker 1: one side, either you was getting money or you wasn't,
Speaker 1: or you was attached to somebody getting money. It was
Speaker 1: just like a party in scene like money everywhere. Like
Speaker 1: it really wasn't too many broke people around. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I can't. It's just like a
Speaker 1: good time. And then it was so much loyalty and
Speaker 1: and and and friendships. If if one person had money,
Speaker 1: his team had money. You feel I'm saying that's why
Speaker 1: I felt like everybody had money. But you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So the New York rappers, how everybody wouldbody was,
Speaker 1: you know, doing it on the corners, uh, break dancing
Speaker 1: and all that. And then when it hit in New York,
Speaker 1: it just like it just became the thing to do.
Speaker 1: You know, it was just a different drug in New
Speaker 1: York that hit the scene. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Everybody was doing other ship opposed to you know, free
Speaker 1: based and that ship, and it had an impact, like
Speaker 1: because now that you mentioned in it like that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about music of like self destruction or they
Speaker 1: put self destruction together, you know what I'm saying. Behind that,
Speaker 1: behind what was happening, And I ain't I've really seen
Speaker 1: nothing them putting nothing together against what's going on now.
Speaker 1: Really like I never know, all of them never got
Speaker 1: unified to stop these guns. You're here, No, a bunch
Speaker 1: of artists get together and do a song about really
Speaker 1: stopping the on that on that level of self destruction.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. M hm, So it was,
Speaker 1: it was. It was bad back then, man, until you know,
Speaker 1: and I can't even explain how to working, you know
Speaker 1: how to work and if you know people parents was
Speaker 1: working nine to five. It was just ship was moving
Speaker 1: around when you know, I know New York. You guys
Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of movies to kind of
Speaker 1: replay those times, but you do have a classic one,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the more classic ones was you
Speaker 1: know my man cam joint camps in and um pay
Speaker 1: the full, pay them full. Yeah, so pay them full.
Speaker 1: You know, if you watch Step if you like, y'all
Speaker 1: was just having a party like people get money, y'all,
Speaker 1: was having a good time, y'all, just spending money on cars,
Speaker 1: y'all was just you know, not the man bros down.
Speaker 1: What was it like? Man? I mean, see that's Hollom World.
Speaker 1: You feel me that that's Hollom World's image. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I relate to it because of the
Speaker 1: massive money we was getting and you know, buying the
Speaker 1: you know, luxury cars and live in a certain style.
Speaker 1: But it's you know it, we would we wasn't moving
Speaker 1: like that the way they showed it. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean that, Like I said, that's Hollom world, like
Speaker 1: we you know, I'm from a whole another borough, Brooklyn
Speaker 1: where you're not doing that everywhere, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it's a certain way you have to do it
Speaker 1: and move in Brooklyn and ship so um. But that
Speaker 1: when you say that movie set like set the trend,
Speaker 1: it really what really said that the trend was scar
Speaker 1: face because that may everybody give them. You know what,
Speaker 1: I think you got scar faced New Jack City. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, all those those joints that really
Speaker 1: made people that want to get out there and get money.
Speaker 1: You know what you want to say talking about influencing
Speaker 1: movies on the streets, you almost want to say, scar Face,
Speaker 1: New Jack City and Covers was probably three worst movies
Speaker 1: ever made, black Man, because it made us and ghettos
Speaker 1: all across the comfry want to do some different. Ship
Speaker 1: everybody wants. Yeah, yeah, you ain't lying you about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it enticed us, It enticed us. It glorified and what
Speaker 1: it was that that's the movie part of it. It
Speaker 1: glorified something to us to be like, yo, so that's
Speaker 1: what we you know, those are the things we want
Speaker 1: to get. But we missed some vital situation. We missed
Speaker 1: some vital points in that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When when Tony was sitting in that crowd, going yo, man,
Speaker 1: this is I've done all this to get here, this
Speaker 1: is it. You know what I'm saying, the same way
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. I've done all lists, played by
Speaker 1: the rules. For y'all to agree with some of the
Speaker 1: ship that you're doing. Now, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's almost like the same ship. Like damn, I played
Speaker 1: by the rules. I fought for this, I did that,
Speaker 1: and here I am now y'all saying it's okay, right,
Speaker 1: But what about the guys who died for this ship?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So because I don't know nothing,
Speaker 1: diod that every game out to do game, every that
Speaker 1: was involved, they all at the end, whether it was
Speaker 1: minimum collateral damage of maximum collateral damage, everybody suffered something
Speaker 1: at the end of that month. Ain't nobody can get
Speaker 1: away scott free, right right? Yeah? Yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Even if you feel that way,
Speaker 1: But you don't feel that way because you've lost people
Speaker 1: in that back, so it affected everybody. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that it is no good outcoming. And you know,
Speaker 1: you know you don't hear that ship. And when you're young,
Speaker 1: you know, in that time, in that era, the money
Speaker 1: was coming so fast. You know, you had my o
Speaker 1: gs that used to say that. You know, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, yo, bro, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: this is what you need to do. This is what
Speaker 1: you this is how you need to move. But you
Speaker 1: kind of didn't respect that because he was getting so
Speaker 1: much paper. You're really looking at like, how could I
Speaker 1: go broke? You know, I mean I could go to
Speaker 1: my man and get fifty a hundred. You know, everybody's up,
Speaker 1: So you're really looking at it, like you know, I
Speaker 1: could do this forever you ain't see it paid in full.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, it's like basketball, NBA play, I
Speaker 1: could do this ship, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: and that's what's in our mind that because we was
Speaker 1: up like that in that in our times, that that's
Speaker 1: the best thing we can do. That's why so many
Speaker 1: niggas falls system to going back to doing that because
Speaker 1: they will they're thinking about that triggers in their mind
Speaker 1: like this is what I'm good at though, right, that's
Speaker 1: all I know. This is all I know. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You heard what he say, which said
Speaker 1: that if the Street's gonna love me if I leave
Speaker 1: all listen. So you know a lot of ship had played.
Speaker 1: You know you you missed in that ship man, when
Speaker 1: you had to really think about it, you had You're
Speaker 1: like I said, you have to be deepend this ship
Speaker 1: to understand that ship. You get what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think what exam No, I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: So those movies, man, are really impact influencing ship on people, man,
Speaker 1: just like the music is now. You know what man,
Speaker 1: I would say right now, Man, especially music, Man, music
Speaker 1: has almost been responsible or to been the sound track
Speaker 1: to every damn epidemic that on every hit like America.
Speaker 1: You think about it now, you know from the early
Speaker 1: two thousands they were talking about sipping on some scissors, right,
Speaker 1: and everybody now talking about popular peel. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying to where it was in
Speaker 1: the eighties. I think when we was coming up, man,
Speaker 1: you wanted to be everything, but a dope team. Remember
Speaker 1: all the messaging was kind of anti adult message. Didn't
Speaker 1: nobody that was my thing. I was so scared of
Speaker 1: becoming a fiend. I wouldn't even smoke weed to do
Speaker 1: nothing right, James, you're cutting out a little bit. I
Speaker 1: don't know for some reason You're not it's coming. It's
Speaker 1: cutting out a little bit. Say I didn't know which
Speaker 1: called him in your background, But you know, I think,
Speaker 1: I think and and everybody ain't gotta do crack. Everybody
Speaker 1: ain't gotta smoke weed. I'm in my late fifties and
Speaker 1: I think I have smoked marijuana. But that's when it
Speaker 1: was called home wrong. You put it in you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You put it in the microtway. You
Speaker 1: hear it up. It wasn't nothing with you had a day.
Speaker 1: So I made a choice not to smooth because it
Speaker 1: made me feel a certain kind of way, and I
Speaker 1: would fight if I had to fight when I got
Speaker 1: high that day off of that ship. So I didn't
Speaker 1: touch it no more. So it wouldn't it wouldn't po me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people out there like you was saying that that feel
Speaker 1: you know, something is out there that when they get high,
Speaker 1: they can express theirselves better. When they own these different
Speaker 1: type of drugs and ship they that man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, they're gonna do something that they wouldn't
Speaker 1: when they do if they were sober. So a lot
Speaker 1: of mother fulers get drunk and do drugs just on
Speaker 1: on load basis. So I mean, it's it's just a
Speaker 1: tricky situation. You know the music business. You're hearing about
Speaker 1: how the motherfucker can kill you with a certain kind
Speaker 1: of gugs. That ever, I didn't want to go get
Speaker 1: that particular gun and be that dude. M but all
Speaker 1: that ship is choices. Well, you know the thing is
Speaker 1: this though James pop cultures is always had a found
Speaker 1: effect impact on the streets of America. It's pretty much
Speaker 1: dictated everything that's going on if you had a like
Speaker 1: you said, like we talked about scar Face and um,
Speaker 1: you know, brown Cat, two typical characters that people kind
Speaker 1: of wanted to be like because I think in the ghetto, man,
Speaker 1: we always look at those cats that look like Superman.
Speaker 1: We always tend to follow the guy that seemed like
Speaker 1: he's bucking the system of beating the odds like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get over when we do get on, you feel,
Speaker 1: don't mean it was always that theme in the movie.
Speaker 1: So it's almost like some ghetto robbing hood ship where
Speaker 1: it's like you made the motherfucker's aspire to be something greater.
Speaker 1: And it was a motherfucker in that audience that when
Speaker 1: he saw star Face and said, you know what, I
Speaker 1: could beat that Tony Montana mothers, but I'll be damned
Speaker 1: if it wasn't a whole bunch of motherfuckers that went
Speaker 1: out and damn they beat it. Well, you had some
Speaker 1: cash out there living like it already, and it just
Speaker 1: made me think, Okay, I'm not type of motherfucking But
Speaker 1: I didn't watch those movies and get a kick off
Speaker 1: of it. I watched Western movies. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: an Indian, but the cowboys because they wouldn't be different.
Speaker 1: You was different than the average dude in the hood.
Speaker 1: You was probably a full time gang banger at the
Speaker 1: age of sixteen, you feel what I mean? Where he
Speaker 1: was really up there doing ship that was to watch
Speaker 1: a movie. He wasn't doing them for fantasize. The situation
Speaker 1: elevated for me in nineteen eighty when I was the
Speaker 1: first time I ever was shot. So that's when I
Speaker 1: realized that I had to step up my game because
Speaker 1: they played with guns, so let me play with guns.
Speaker 1: That was the only difference, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I didn't you know, when I seen Uh Colors,
Speaker 1: I laughed at that ship because it was the weakest
Speaker 1: ship I've ever seen. That ain't how it goes, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. King of New York's and Uh
Speaker 1: New Jack City, that ship was cool to me because
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that side of the world. Like we
Speaker 1: had this problem today. You got New York cats that
Speaker 1: don't like California cats. You got California cats say they
Speaker 1: laying why they swing, they hustle, they get down. People
Speaker 1: don't realize that they live a total different way from
Speaker 1: we do. You know what I'm saying, Like I go
Speaker 1: to Texas and I say, Texas is so far behind California.
Speaker 1: But when when like my brothers out there started working
Speaker 1: with the drugs, they was moving fast because it was
Speaker 1: like they was trying to catch up, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's just it's just different though, But
Speaker 1: would you say the way you just describe that West coast,
Speaker 1: East coast. I just always felt that, man, it ain't
Speaker 1: really you're from. The morals in this street ship don't change, right,
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. The rules, I haven't seen
Speaker 1: any different. Rules don't matter what side of the town
Speaker 1: I've been on. You know what I'm saying. I understand
Speaker 1: there's rules and living by the gang life, the gang
Speaker 1: culture life. Right if we understand that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But also there's still morals in the game.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying that, Like I've been over
Speaker 1: there where there, you know, you get a past because man,
Speaker 1: you know you're not even from here. You know you
Speaker 1: don't know no better. You're wearing that you really don't
Speaker 1: know no better and not and I know that, So
Speaker 1: you know, we get passes on that. I've seen that before,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, But morally, but how
Speaker 1: if you're in these streets, man, it's all the same.
Speaker 1: The codes are the same, you know. So, And like
Speaker 1: you just describe colors that movie, I did not even
Speaker 1: really understand that movie because I wasn't I wasn't brought
Speaker 1: up on gang culture. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: when you say two different lifestyles, some two different sides
Speaker 1: of the world. Yeah, when I've seen colors and didn't
Speaker 1: all the blood and blood out and all that in
Speaker 1: American me all that ship is there's a different way
Speaker 1: of living from over here right right, you know you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Um, I just always say to myself, Man,
Speaker 1: I wish I would have had someone a contact over there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I could have seen,
Speaker 1: I would have seen much more. My my vision would
Speaker 1: have would have been much bigger. You know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: I ain't even had nobody to really turn me onto
Speaker 1: like ship go to Miami. Then you get what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you know, so my my father, this thing was
Speaker 1: this right here in in in Uptown Hallo where you
Speaker 1: know where it all stashed at. You know. But let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, e um, because I'm originally complete
Speaker 1: in a while, so I always trip on other states
Speaker 1: back there are closer together. You know, you can pull off,
Speaker 1: you can mess around to be in Kentucky and a
Speaker 1: couple of hours leaving from on how old than you
Speaker 1: can be in p A a few hours to be
Speaker 1: and West Virginia a few hours so I think it
Speaker 1: made y'all hustle a little different man, because you have
Speaker 1: New York. Tester was going over, you was going on
Speaker 1: New Jersey. Yeah, backyard right there, New Jersey, d C. Baltimore. Yo, Um,
Speaker 1: you can do that, but it ain't. It ain't as
Speaker 1: easy as you saying, though. You get what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: it's a certain way, is a certain way in style
Speaker 1: that you have to move to even be able to
Speaker 1: do that. You want to ask you because you was
Speaker 1: doing some things. Yeah, that was pretty thig. You know.
Speaker 1: You know what, man? What what got me into other cities?
Speaker 1: Wherever I was? Man honestly was And it's crazy to
Speaker 1: say that with sports, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: can go in any city, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: and find me a basketball court and whenever they're bawling
Speaker 1: that it's somewhere you know, I'm gonna meet somebody that
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is with balling and hustler.
Speaker 1: What somebody they're gonna no, like, oh damn, bro, you're
Speaker 1: game tight and then it's gonna spark a conversation and
Speaker 1: then it's gonna spark the time. That's your call over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah damn. But so you're from New York. Yeah, like cool,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And next you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you're just like you gotta get in where you fit in, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, ain't no oh I'm coming
Speaker 1: over this block, that this block is taking down money.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. That ship there, I don't see nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't see niggas even body bags doing that dumb ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was always like, you know,
Speaker 1: about some money. And that's what's so so unique about
Speaker 1: my situation in my case, bro, for all the money
Speaker 1: in touch, for all the money I touched in this game,
Speaker 1: and for you know, for what they say I've done. Man,
Speaker 1: it really it was no violence in my case. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. No guns, no violence, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that was what what was was
Speaker 1: unique about. It was just strictly getting money. I've always
Speaker 1: been on some money ship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't advocate violence because we can't get no money
Speaker 1: with that. That ship is gonna bring problems. So you know, um,
Speaker 1: that's why I don't have any you know, while shootout
Speaker 1: stories and you know, and stories with violence and this
Speaker 1: ship because I just never was on that lane. Man,
Speaker 1: that ship I stated, I don't change. I don't change
Speaker 1: gangster niggas. That was about that life. And then showing
Speaker 1: them about man the money over here like all that ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's definitely a one way
Speaker 1: to get to jail, you know what I'm saying. And death,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, let's be let's be humble,
Speaker 1: let's share this money. You know what I'm saying, Let's
Speaker 1: let's just get rich. And and the sad part about that,
Speaker 1: you're still gonna find the haters and that I ain't
Speaker 1: saying that this ship it comes with violence. You know,
Speaker 1: they don't getting sucked up that that. You know, it
Speaker 1: comes with violence this game. But that's just been something
Speaker 1: I've always tried to avoid. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When they ran off with my money, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Yeah, you moved a total different way. You
Speaker 1: was low peeple real and there was a lot of
Speaker 1: brothers out there that straight on the low fee. If
Speaker 1: if I know is nine niggas over there with guns
Speaker 1: and they're fenna do shooting I ain't gonna go over
Speaker 1: that way. That ain't my my purpose. So I get
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. So you knew what to do
Speaker 1: and what not to so you know the way you
Speaker 1: moved is totally different from everybody else. That keeps you
Speaker 1: away from everything. You know, I'm saying, I don't come
Speaker 1: in as a threat. You feel me like anywhere I go,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, really, I'm a New
Speaker 1: York representative, my dude, you feel me wherever I go.
Speaker 1: I'm representing New York City. So I want niggas to say, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: you know that dude, the Haven man, he was the cool.
Speaker 1: Last thing he was about his bread. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, That's the lane you want to set for
Speaker 1: the next people that come in, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm just here to represent my city when I
Speaker 1: go to other spots man, and and trying to make
Speaker 1: you know, just just be humble about it, man. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm like, the way I played might play this
Speaker 1: game in my life. Man. And and this is what
Speaker 1: the outcome is, man, that I got away with a
Speaker 1: lot of ship because of just just being humble and
Speaker 1: being fed with this ship. That's one thing he said.
Speaker 1: It's golf. You know what I'm saying. He said, I
Speaker 1: don't break my balls for nobody. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's all I got. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I always believe like my old gs man, they were
Speaker 1: strictly about money, man. I was just turned on about money.
Speaker 1: None of them was about violence, man, Nobody. A lot
Speaker 1: of my mother's friends raised me. You feel me, and
Speaker 1: they've never steered me in the wrong direction. Always said school,
Speaker 1: said school. All the choices I've done, all the things
Speaker 1: I've done, is because of my choice. I ain't never
Speaker 1: had no o g tell me, man, no go funk school,
Speaker 1: Ain't no money in that. That ain't no real leader,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. A lot of my fuckers
Speaker 1: didn't have you had you had growing more fockers that
Speaker 1: that looked out for you. You didn't have no super
Speaker 1: fockers saying come on, let's go get in the car.
Speaker 1: It's a big difference when when you don't have that
Speaker 1: and you don't hear that o Gee how to let
Speaker 1: you right away? You're gonna go the way he told me,
Speaker 1: because that's all you heard. But you got people to say,
Speaker 1: oh man, that ain't the way to do it. Like
Speaker 1: and then when you fast forward today, man, and just
Speaker 1: look at this Luca, what's going on? Who they following? Bro?
Speaker 1: Who these old g's out You know these are weird.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like we're responsible for them, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But because we don't look a certain way,
Speaker 1: they ain't hearing us. They ain't hearing us. If there
Speaker 1: is a generation that's strictly on vision, right, ain't no
Speaker 1: ain't no faith. They don't believe in nothing unless they
Speaker 1: can see it if you're not woking every walk and
Speaker 1: doing what you was doing thirty years ago. Day and
Speaker 1: they don't want to hear that ship you and what
Speaker 1: I'm doing. That's real ship all day. But you know,
Speaker 1: you got o g s out there today that don't
Speaker 1: want to be bothered because they don't want to have
Speaker 1: to do nothing to this because these dunces out here
Speaker 1: today don't listen. Yeah, And and it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a give and take thing with them, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We I know I'm dealing with a fast
Speaker 1: temper generation. Soft They fried you. You gotta watch how
Speaker 1: they talk to you. You talk to them. So I'm
Speaker 1: out here. I be in these streets a lot, man,
Speaker 1: be in these streets in every city, and and like
Speaker 1: that's just what I do. That's what I love. And
Speaker 1: I can relate with them. I speak their language. And
Speaker 1: when they see you, they got a lot more respect
Speaker 1: for you other than you just sitting behind the teeth,
Speaker 1: sitting behind here going they can see you, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I respect that. But I try to explain
Speaker 1: to a lot of these O g s too, man,
Speaker 1: like don't give up, you know, just have some dialogue.
Speaker 1: Don't just be like, come on, man, you you just
Speaker 1: gotta be fragile them. I know were not like that,
Speaker 1: but you just gotta be fragile with these dudes, man,
Speaker 1: and speak their language. And if I turned two and
Speaker 1: three out of thirty, bro is good. But one thing
Speaker 1: about them, and they these young dudes out here, they
Speaker 1: do respect me because I don't move like that as
Speaker 1: a threat. You know what I'm saying. And I know
Speaker 1: how I relate to them. Man, it's something new in
Speaker 1: these dudes. Man. On top of this, they wired. They're
Speaker 1: already wired through this. You know what I'm saying. When
Speaker 1: I say they wired, they wired and and I know
Speaker 1: we all go relate if you relate to that. If
Speaker 1: you can't, just take one of them teenage phones and
Speaker 1: they games from them, and then you can understand what
Speaker 1: I'm telling you when I tell you they wired. Man,
Speaker 1: James Grandsons five mess. All he do is still on
Speaker 1: them games. He still and he get mad when I
Speaker 1: take them, mad like like he it's almost like if
Speaker 1: he could beat you, he'd try for that game. Yo,
Speaker 1: he will, you know what I'm saying. And they I
Speaker 1: don't know if these people ain't seeing it, America ain't
Speaker 1: seeing it with it and our youth with this, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's you know, it's the
Speaker 1: single parents that's like, Yo, listen, I'd rather him here
Speaker 1: than out on the street. And like it really ain't
Speaker 1: gonna make a difference, you understand, because he's gonna be
Speaker 1: wired aget you when it's time. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if you leave him in that room and let him
Speaker 1: close the door, like yo, Man, this generation and what's
Speaker 1: going on now, Man is really the new the new
Speaker 1: game for us. Man is actually, Man, it's just uh,
Speaker 1: you know, mentoring going up in these schools. Man, just
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, talking to them man and
Speaker 1: and letting them know, Bro, look man, this is not
Speaker 1: what you want. Man. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: give them a vision like when I told to him,
Speaker 1: I'll be trying to get them in my space, like
Speaker 1: you know, I get up on them, like in their
Speaker 1: space and go, this is how you're living in there?
Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with me up on you? Likeness? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I try to get into
Speaker 1: them like that, you know, um to tell that this
Speaker 1: ship ain't cool. This ship, I don't know where they
Speaker 1: get the violence inside them from, you know. And if
Speaker 1: I get give you example, I was at a basketball
Speaker 1: game a couple of weeks ago and these dudes was
Speaker 1: they was playing some tough ball and it led to
Speaker 1: them almost fighting. These dudes get me get it on.
Speaker 1: And I'm standing on the sideline going, man, this mad
Speaker 1: kids out here. Then please I hope they don't fight, man, Please,
Speaker 1: I hope they don't fight. So this little dude come
Speaker 1: next to me, a little dude about ten twelve years
Speaker 1: and he's standing there watched it too. So after they
Speaker 1: broke it all up and it was good, I looked
Speaker 1: at the little dude, I said, she Ain't you glad
Speaker 1: they didn't fight? He said, I came over to see
Speaker 1: them fight. I said, Man, I can't tell like, I
Speaker 1: just don't know what's in them that make them feel
Speaker 1: like this ship. Man, you know what it was. I
Speaker 1: was gonna tell you. Man, we talked about the games
Speaker 1: and stuff. Man. They got these virtual reality games. No man,
Speaker 1: these you know, the VR glasses that you could put on.
Speaker 1: You almost almost feel like man, they slowly about the
Speaker 1: merge human beings with technology in a minute, like they
Speaker 1: just depended for Because you think about it now, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you I've been experimenting something for the past
Speaker 1: month or so. I took it back to the old.
Speaker 1: So I turned my phone off some days because you
Speaker 1: won't be able to get no work done with your phone,
Speaker 1: all right? And are you unplugging for that day? You
Speaker 1: almost had motherfucker's man. Actually, like, I couldn't reach out
Speaker 1: to you when I wanted to. But at one point
Speaker 1: it wasn't always like that. You remember, you had a
Speaker 1: home phone at home, and the most leave a message,
Speaker 1: you might call somebody. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: might think you we got the beeper error, but still
Speaker 1: you wouldn't always garantee to get a call back on that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Then motherfucker's figured out ways
Speaker 1: to communicate to that. If you're mad the motherfucker you're
Speaker 1: sitting in the one eight seven, or you're sending motherfucker's information,
Speaker 1: you know, we can start figuring off with the codes
Speaker 1: and talk to the pages and stuff. But we've become
Speaker 1: so dependent on technology man to where it's almost ruining.
Speaker 1: It's almost ruining our life. Likes moving moving. It's moving
Speaker 1: faster than we are see and that's what the problem is.
Speaker 1: So when they put it out and and then the
Speaker 1: black market get ahold of it, there's no laws in
Speaker 1: place fast enough to correct that ship. You get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like oh ship, it wasn't a law for this,
Speaker 1: and I ain't know like big coin, it wasn't no
Speaker 1: digital money. So if you got robbed for it, what
Speaker 1: law was it about? You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's still a lot of laws that they have to
Speaker 1: make behind certain things. That's moving too fast. All this
Speaker 1: ship is too fast and they're trying and it's it's
Speaker 1: down to just our kids is in the school. You'll
Speaker 1: teach them colding right off the gate. Now, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying in to us us old school. You
Speaker 1: heard what you just said, page and this and that. Bro. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's our job to keep up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You see what you just said with your grandson, and
Speaker 1: you just you're really we gotta be really paying attention.
Speaker 1: And they're schooling us to ship right. You understand I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like it really this whether we like it or not.
Speaker 1: As as old school niggas, this the new money it is.
Speaker 1: I utilized technology, but one thing that I had to realize,
Speaker 1: man is dead. You can almost become addicted to all
Speaker 1: this ship right phones because I'm looking at my kids
Speaker 1: sometimes ain't nothing happening. They just had their phone in
Speaker 1: their hands, just looking at it every few minutes, like
Speaker 1: like they waiting for something happened, like they gonna miss
Speaker 1: something on Instagram or something. And it's like, put that
Speaker 1: ship down and just cheat. I call I call it
Speaker 1: in real time. You know what I'm saying, Maybe what
Speaker 1: you're doing, this is all real time. We're in real
Speaker 1: time right now. We ain't got to wait to nothing.
Speaker 1: Everything that we wanted in real time right now, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's what I call it.
Speaker 1: It's in real time. We used to be able to
Speaker 1: wait for this and wait on that. Why you know,
Speaker 1: you know why I gotta wait to see this check
Speaker 1: neck it when when I can see it right here
Speaker 1: right in real times? You know? Speaking of technology broke,
Speaker 1: y'all see that movie on Netflix, The Most Hated Man
Speaker 1: on the Internet. Yeah, I watched. Oh man, I didn't
Speaker 1: watch it, but I've seen the previews since it. Ye.
Speaker 1: Then motherfucker was off the change. You gotta remember this
Speaker 1: was two thousand, right. He had a platform, man and
Speaker 1: where people can upload people's pictures, right, and he started that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard about that. This dude was what I went out. Man,
Speaker 1: he was like, he was like ruining motherfucker's lives. Don't
Speaker 1: yeah about that. It wasn't shipped. The police and nobody
Speaker 1: can do about about the ship. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: New technology, But they was on stuff. They didn't even
Speaker 1: have a law written for it yet, right there is
Speaker 1: They didn't have one for COVID, but they had to
Speaker 1: make up some ship rightly, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like it's new ship involving that they don't have launch
Speaker 1: for yet, you know what I'm saying. And when you
Speaker 1: start thinking about it, how fast doesn't how fast it
Speaker 1: takes for a law of change, what do they what's
Speaker 1: the post sense of having you change the law? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. What is what channels? They gotta
Speaker 1: go through and ship a lot of means? So about
Speaker 1: time they get that law and effect the people have
Speaker 1: damaged already. Yeah, you know the fun thing about it?
Speaker 1: Think about it, man, we was kids. We'd told somebody
Speaker 1: that was crazy. If but we somebody had told us, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: thirty years from now, y'all gonna be speaking through a phone.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be in New York, You're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: to some cats in l A across the country on
Speaker 1: on your phone, and you're gonna be able to see him.
Speaker 1: You told them, montherfucker, they was crazy. So just think
Speaker 1: about how technology is just advanced over thirty years, bro,
Speaker 1: Just imatine, what's coming to the next thirty I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised. Not really. We saw it, but we weren't
Speaker 1: paying attention. We were sitting back let eating eating chips,
Speaker 1: and and and in quarter Awards watching Jetsons like all
Speaker 1: these dudes flying around, but in real time look at
Speaker 1: this ship. Yo, yeah, we're doing it. Just this This
Speaker 1: is from right here, bro, real time. This is the Jetsons.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I forgot
Speaker 1: the process of it. It's like you know, it's the
Speaker 1: it's the vision and then the process you know, of
Speaker 1: making it happen. And you know what, if you can
Speaker 1: envision it, man, that you can make it happen. And
Speaker 1: that's what people are doing now. Man. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying this this they brought the world right here
Speaker 1: sitting in the fucking car talking to y'all. Right now,
Speaker 1: this is the world right here. They put they put
Speaker 1: the They put the world in your hand. It's a
Speaker 1: good and a curse. Now what you're gonna do with it?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying Now, there's no more pointing
Speaker 1: fingers that where you're at in life and how why
Speaker 1: you can't get through. They give you more and more
Speaker 1: opportunities now to be creative and get this money, or
Speaker 1: you want to play the dark side of this ship
Speaker 1: and put the choice in your hand. They put the
Speaker 1: choice in your hand on how you want to eat now.
Speaker 1: So whatever you it is what you was doing. If
Speaker 1: you were selling socks and making a few dollars and
Speaker 1: then guess what now you can sell socks worldwide, you
Speaker 1: feel me. So they're giving you the opportunity to blossom
Speaker 1: whatever you got and make money for it. One thing
Speaker 1: that the internet has done, it has started a whole
Speaker 1: different economy man of dude to do everything, sit online
Speaker 1: all day and talk ship and being everybody else's business
Speaker 1: his motherfucker bet don't fight, man, It's like it's made
Speaker 1: it for the You remember we call the motherfucker's busy bodies,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's and everybody's business in the hood. You tell when
Speaker 1: you tell one thing, next thing, you know, the whole
Speaker 1: motherfuckering neighborhood. No, because just this one motherfucker, that same nigger.
Speaker 1: Now I've got a mincrophone and a laptop up there
Speaker 1: talking the same ship right now I'm getting paid for
Speaker 1: You don't want to come out, And his plans is
Speaker 1: not even to come out no more. He talked to
Speaker 1: so much ship he ain't coming out no more. That's
Speaker 1: what I try to tell most of these niggas that's
Speaker 1: doing that, Like, do you plan not to come out
Speaker 1: no more. You know what I'm saying, Like or you
Speaker 1: really want to live like that? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that to be looking over your shoulder with the ship
Speaker 1: that you got going on, right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna promote violence? Do ahead? At some point
Speaker 1: it's gonna come back around, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But this Internet has gave leverage to us though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: his Internet would have gave me. It gave us leverage
Speaker 1: to be able to address certain situations that people wasn't
Speaker 1: even working with us, that we wouldn't have been able
Speaker 1: to get out of the story. I wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: able to get my story out there without the Internet.
Speaker 1: That's true in the sense. But don't you think the
Speaker 1: Internet cursed us a little bit? Because the Internet is
Speaker 1: putting a lot of motherfucker's in jail, a lot of
Speaker 1: us in jail. The Internet is telling on us because
Speaker 1: we're telling on ourselves. So the Internet is that say,
Speaker 1: it's working both ways. It all depends on how you
Speaker 1: choose is to use their Internet. It's a gift and
Speaker 1: a curse how you want to use it. You're right,
Speaker 1: it's definitely it's a gift and a curse. But you know,
Speaker 1: like I just said, man, it's it's out for you
Speaker 1: to do, to use it in any choice that you
Speaker 1: want that's gonna benefit you. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's cursed. There's a lot of you know, all the
Speaker 1: way down to seeing you know, what these police are
Speaker 1: doing to our kids in the streets like this is
Speaker 1: man's it's just scary to see what's next, what's next
Speaker 1: where you know you know you're talking about right now.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the one thing I'll do like
Speaker 1: about the Internet, It made it impossible to black ball
Speaker 1: somebody big bang, impossible to black ball the motherfucker if
Speaker 1: you call yourself before Jeams, I'm not gonna lie. In
Speaker 1: the nineties. Motherfucker's got power. Get we can silmuce you
Speaker 1: kind of getting in the magazines. He can squash me
Speaker 1: doing this. This became the hater's motivator right here to worry.
Speaker 1: He said, you know what, motherfucker do you think you
Speaker 1: go silence me? Now? I gotta voice, and motherfucker's gonna
Speaker 1: come to look at me. They're gonna sunk. They're gonna
Speaker 1: funk what me and i'n expose your ways. Well, she
Speaker 1: I learned that watching that movie. When you just I
Speaker 1: learned that watching this movie. This movie showed you that
Speaker 1: you don't have the power. I got the power. This
Speaker 1: by ship can't nobody touch it. And the only reason
Speaker 1: why this dude came down is because he was hacking people.
Speaker 1: That's the only way he was able to get him
Speaker 1: if they couldn't find him on the hacking. Here's still
Speaker 1: being business right now, oh for sure nowhere, and he
Speaker 1: was arrogant with it. I'm gonna tell you the worst
Speaker 1: motherfucker to have on your grass in life. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you you would think it's the white man, but
Speaker 1: it's the white woman. If you funk with a white
Speaker 1: woman's kids, she gonna do anything to make sure the
Speaker 1: motherfucker's because I'm gonna tell you something about them. They
Speaker 1: don't believe. Look Timmy or An out there doing none
Speaker 1: of this ship. You say, oh, he was starting cocaine,
Speaker 1: You're line, Someone said him up there probably was this
Speaker 1: black me. They gonna fight for their kids to the
Speaker 1: end and assume the motherfucker's innocent. She went up that
Speaker 1: motherfucker's I'm gonna tell you this. If that would have
Speaker 1: been a black girl showing her breast up there and
Speaker 1: want them took it down, they wouldn't the game two ships,
Speaker 1: they said, Oh, that don't e to keep point, here
Speaker 1: is the mama for her daughter and the reason why
Speaker 1: she fought for her daughter because she's taking pictures of
Speaker 1: her ship. She got hacked. Now they all over the internet,
Speaker 1: so that was a big difference. And I don't know
Speaker 1: that should either man see some see My thing is this,
Speaker 1: we don't like being accountable. The thing is people, especially
Speaker 1: these millennials, right, and I'm not gonna turn this into
Speaker 1: the whole nigga versus young nigh, right, but motherfucker's don't
Speaker 1: want to be accountable. What is the purpose of you're
Speaker 1: sitting up in your room taking pictures of your tippets
Speaker 1: unless you go send them to a motherfucker. Some people
Speaker 1: went women in more they sell before. That's just like
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like them, motherfucker to take a picture.
Speaker 1: They did that support let me kill you. Girls used
Speaker 1: to sit in the mirror every day. See, I'm a
Speaker 1: sixty baby. I was born in the sixties, so I
Speaker 1: know I got sisters, My sisters and them used to
Speaker 1: sit in the mirror all fucking days that one of
Speaker 1: my mother friends come over with makeup and ship, and
Speaker 1: they fell in love with that ship. So now they're
Speaker 1: trying to use the makeup. It's all about what they
Speaker 1: see and how they feel. So now they got the phone.
Speaker 1: Now they could take the phone and do his ship selfies.
Speaker 1: Now they could take pictures of everybody and see what
Speaker 1: they can't see. You know, they can't see the pimples
Speaker 1: on their ass. But if they take a picture and
Speaker 1: they see them pimples in their ass. And now they're
Speaker 1: going Mexico, some motherfucker away trying to get the picts
Speaker 1: and man, this ship is crazy. Well that's what I'm saying. Man,
Speaker 1: this internet got they got our young girls, man, thinking
Speaker 1: they're not beautiful, not thing, and they got a put
Speaker 1: filters on them, and we're all kind of ship caked up.
Speaker 1: Like I didn't go lie. I was in the grocery
Speaker 1: store of the day and I was with my wife
Speaker 1: and I saw some girls. Man, it couldn't have been
Speaker 1: no more than sixteen, had so much ship kaked on
Speaker 1: their face. I was like, whatever happened to the little girls?
Speaker 1: Just what they natural? Beauty? Just being little girls. But
Speaker 1: it's this Internet that got motherfucker's fucked up. They got
Speaker 1: him thinking, Oh, I gotta have my ass gotta be bigger.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get some ship in check somewhere in
Speaker 1: my ass to make my asks fatter because everybody is
Speaker 1: on the clock right now. Though, like you said, hey,
Speaker 1: real fucking time, it's totally different. Bro. Girls react like
Speaker 1: their mother They act like their mothers. We got mothers
Speaker 1: out here hanging at the club with their daughters. Though
Speaker 1: it ain't that mama looking more showing more of her
Speaker 1: motherfuckers than her daughter is. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Just not to cut you. I just was speaking about singles.
Speaker 1: I was thinking were talking about guns, and I kept
Speaker 1: trying to figure out with these guns, with these not
Speaker 1: where they're coming from, but where they at? You understand, like,
Speaker 1: where are these young niggas hiding these guns? Where they at?
Speaker 1: They in these houses? You mean to tell me your mama,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's in your room. These generational parents,
Speaker 1: you got a fifteen year old in their sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 1: You don't know everything that's in this room. You don't
Speaker 1: search this nigga room, you know, what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know these some of these people don't know what
Speaker 1: your child is doing in the street. It was a
Speaker 1: commercial that they used to have one yo, it's ten o'clock.
Speaker 1: Do you know where your your kids are? That used
Speaker 1: to come on TV? You know what I'm saying at
Speaker 1: this point. Now, you don't know what your kid is
Speaker 1: watching on the internet. When he closed that door and
Speaker 1: get on that game, when he put on the headphones.
Speaker 1: You don't know who we're talking to, what they're talking about. Who,
Speaker 1: who's up? Who's a pedophile that's chasing your child down?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, these and and and where
Speaker 1: the guns at in the house? You understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like these guns is not outside in the bushes. And
Speaker 1: then I realized that there's some mothers that's really scared
Speaker 1: of their children. And I was just about to say
Speaker 1: that to you, uh, some kids. I'm gonna speak for me.
Speaker 1: When I had guns in my house, I knew where
Speaker 1: to hide them where mama's been have been down and
Speaker 1: go clean up under my bed where she ain't beenna
Speaker 1: go up under my mattress, so I thought. But when
Speaker 1: my mama addressed certain ship I was one of them
Speaker 1: stupid kids to argue with my mother at fourteen at fifteen.
Speaker 1: So some of these little cats out here ain't little cash.
Speaker 1: They little cats does, but you know Mama is scared
Speaker 1: of them, especially at the dadly leaves when Popster is
Speaker 1: removed from the house. I could do what the funk
Speaker 1: I want to do? Now my mama can't tell me ship.
Speaker 1: So now today kids has gotten worse in they don't
Speaker 1: hide their guns, they just put them in they underwear,
Speaker 1: drawing close to draw about their mother business. So it's changed.
Speaker 1: They don't care because mama is doing her things. She
Speaker 1: ain't worried about what he's doing. Some some parents. So
Speaker 1: it's it's just different. How repairing today opposed to have
Speaker 1: was in the sixties. In the seventies, I think was
Speaker 1: it was more than anything. And I see this We
Speaker 1: in a generation to where people the daddy want to
Speaker 1: be their kids own boy, Mama want to be their thoughts,
Speaker 1: own girl. Our parents as parents, we we we we
Speaker 1: was known because if I came standing around my mama
Speaker 1: when she was with her friends talking, the thing that
Speaker 1: was gonna sit down, don't you see grown folks get
Speaker 1: your ass up and go outside that you wasn't just
Speaker 1: gonna be there now, you gotta were a little motherfucker
Speaker 1: coming in half the conversation. Mother motherfucker smart with his
Speaker 1: peris customs, peers out. You got the parients videotaping the
Speaker 1: motherfucker making the mother for the Instagram famous people out
Speaker 1: the ship. We think that's cute. And that's what I said.
Speaker 1: You know, you know Pops is hanging with his son.
Speaker 1: They're sitting there kicking the uh, smoking weed and drinking.
Speaker 1: What is your teaching him? Now? Your som bucking up
Speaker 1: at you because you don't be You don't see you
Speaker 1: as Pops. You see you as one of the homies.
Speaker 1: This is how we kick it. This is the relationship
Speaker 1: you have. So you can't be Pops at my homeboy,
Speaker 1: because Pops is hard a different type of dude. So
Speaker 1: you see that. Actually you see that. He said these
Speaker 1: mothers and they'd be like, you know your child is seven, Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't go nowhere. Every time go out, he calls
Speaker 1: me where you at? Line where you at? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: really you let him do that? You do know that's
Speaker 1: your son, right? You know that your your boy. The
Speaker 1: difference because when he gets sixteen, he's gonna be slamming
Speaker 1: the door in your face. You know that, right, Man,
Speaker 1: I gotta six year old. And if I leave Papa,
Speaker 1: if if I dropped me off somewhere, come get me.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to come home. I feel like and I
Speaker 1: used to talk about my kids mother's you know, you
Speaker 1: ain't got another word about you woo to whoop. But
Speaker 1: they want to get out too now that I'm raising
Speaker 1: this little dude and norm you know, I had it
Speaker 1: for a little while now, so everything stops. The party in,
Speaker 1: the kicking in and all that ship. But I realized
Speaker 1: that and I don't have to, you know, sneak out
Speaker 1: the house and go play party and drinking and all
Speaker 1: that ship. But I cut that ship out. But man,
Speaker 1: I know what the funk they're doing through that ship
Speaker 1: is brong. I got, you know, I got a nine
Speaker 1: year old bro. I just the first time I had
Speaker 1: him for this, the first time I had him for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. And like you said, I used
Speaker 1: to talk about my baby mothers and ship too, man,
Speaker 1: But you know I got a whole new I got
Speaker 1: different kind of respect now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: See how much this motherfucker eat. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But then I also see that, Yo, my man, you
Speaker 1: don't really pick up behind yourself right, So that let
Speaker 1: me know your mam wa do this right like when
Speaker 1: you're not this, This is when you're not gonna do
Speaker 1: this that you get what I'm saying. But you know
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a great thing when y'all comparents, when
Speaker 1: that ship working together. You get what I'm saying, You
Speaker 1: have a whole new respect. And like this dude here,
Speaker 1: that's nine year old man. He changed He didn't want
Speaker 1: who really changed my life around? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You don't wan't save my life. So that's all I
Speaker 1: do is hang around kids. Man. That's people ask me, yo,
Speaker 1: behind what Jay did to you? Man, I'd be mad
Speaker 1: running around here this that, and I have to tell him.
Speaker 1: Bro man, you if I hang around with kids, man,
Speaker 1: you can't even be mad at nothing. When you're around kids.
Speaker 1: You ain't even got Yeah, we almost went through the
Speaker 1: whole interview with Ave mentioned Jay's name, But since you broke, man,
Speaker 1: you have a really dope project. Man. And I watched
Speaker 1: on two the TV right I'm actually watching it for
Speaker 1: my second time, because you know, sometimes you want to
Speaker 1: go back through something, right, Um, what inspired you to
Speaker 1: put off Marcy made? Um? Well, I felt like I
Speaker 1: just wanted to put my life story. I wanted to
Speaker 1: tell my life story. You know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: it was a process to get to that. Like like
Speaker 1: I said, um being mad, right, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: It was the time, man, I was. I was kind
Speaker 1: of past mad. I was enraged, like I really hated them.
Speaker 1: I was on some hating ship, the whole crew him,
Speaker 1: game dashed or every because I've done something for all
Speaker 1: of them. Oh, I looked out for all of them,
Speaker 1: and that ship ain't get me nowhere, bro, you just
Speaker 1: get people. Let me give people a little context in
Speaker 1: case they don't know. Right, all those guys you would
Speaker 1: put money into the Rocket Fellows situation and everything. Right,
Speaker 1: I am the foundation of that ship because you was
Speaker 1: out there getting money. You was You was the big
Speaker 1: homie out They give money and Jay was hustling, which
Speaker 1: at one point, right, so you put money in sixthuation.
Speaker 1: They pretty much just kind of just left you up.
Speaker 1: The whole thing. Yeah, man, you know we departed, we
Speaker 1: we we had our differences and kind of kind of
Speaker 1: started departing, but not no differences where it was a situation.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. It didn't get to that
Speaker 1: to them, that's got to another level. And it didn't
Speaker 1: get to that too, where you know, I was picked
Speaker 1: up for the charges and and then one thing led
Speaker 1: to another and then niggas just actually left me there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that That was my whole argument.
Speaker 1: Them niggas actually really left me there, like they thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna end up with life and end up
Speaker 1: just doing a sucking don diva spread us some ship
Speaker 1: like that. But it didn't work out that way, and
Speaker 1: I ended up back on the street, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And when I ended up on the street,
Speaker 1: like I said, I was in the rage, man, I was.
Speaker 1: I was in some other ship. That ship was consuming
Speaker 1: my body. Hate was consuming my body. Like I wake
Speaker 1: up thinking about these this nigga and ship. You know
Speaker 1: what he did to me? I wake up thinking about this,
Speaker 1: That ship won't leave me. That my only folks focus
Speaker 1: was on them, and I wasn't that that ship took
Speaker 1: me into a dark place, just people with the with
Speaker 1: the what did they exactly due to you. Well, like
Speaker 1: I said, in time and me, they left me in prison.
Speaker 1: They actually left me there like we we caught it.
Speaker 1: I called, I did a federal, I got picked up
Speaker 1: for a federal charged me Emory and another guy. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And this was this was really
Speaker 1: this is what icing on the cake here right. Me
Speaker 1: and Jay has a relationship. So during that process, Jay
Speaker 1: tells me, Yo, don't worry about it. I've got you.
Speaker 1: I'll take care of it. Get you out of there. Whatever.
Speaker 1: And here we are talking right now, I ain't seen
Speaker 1: him yet. So when I say he left me in there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. One on one when they're
Speaker 1: like a man and man if I say and tell you, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this interview at eleven and I don't
Speaker 1: show up. You know what I'm saying. It's not that
Speaker 1: major to you, but it's it's a principle of it.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. But this is this is major.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. Ship was that because there
Speaker 1: was like your little brother, uh, the one and only
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. One and the friends, friends
Speaker 1: of his friends, mother's friends just his friends. You know,
Speaker 1: the whole ordeal, bro, the whole ordeal. Like you one
Speaker 1: of the first to see his talent to right, Oh definitely.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm not surprised when he at Like, I
Speaker 1: ain't surprised about that part. Man. I knew he was
Speaker 1: going in at some point, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then look how he got there. Look at this,
Speaker 1: Look at Reason you doubt. Man, that's my life. That's
Speaker 1: my life story, Bro, that's what set it off. If
Speaker 1: you listen to Reasonable Doubt, that's that's my life. That album,
Speaker 1: that record is about our life, like my lifestyle of living,
Speaker 1: our lifestyle is getting money, all of that what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And he says that, and he says that in his
Speaker 1: book when you read the Coded, he said, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: knew how to wrap, I knew how to rhyme, but
Speaker 1: I just needed a story to tell and the only
Speaker 1: story was Reason that and that's what came out Reason
Speaker 1: litle doubt. You know what I'm saying. But long story shot,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, these dudes took me to a path
Speaker 1: of like, you know, it kind of hurts when you
Speaker 1: put your life on the line. Man. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying like not once not trying, this is your
Speaker 1: little brother. I fought for him, like as if that
Speaker 1: was my little brother. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I never can understand that if even if we
Speaker 1: had whatever differences or disagreement we had, Man, how could
Speaker 1: your people do you that way? Yeah? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Let me that. Let me ask you this, bro,
Speaker 1: because you can tell you've grown about past and you're
Speaker 1: not as angry as you once were. You can tell
Speaker 1: it still hurt you more than anything else. If you
Speaker 1: had the chance to talk to Jake and you think
Speaker 1: you sit down and have a conversation with him, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah. Well you know, you know, bro, you gotta
Speaker 1: have a conversation with you. You know when when people
Speaker 1: ask me just like you mean, what you what do
Speaker 1: you owe you? What you think you owe you a conversation?
Speaker 1: M h a conversation. I just told you. You told me,
Speaker 1: you know, I told you I was gonna do this
Speaker 1: show leving o'clock. Bro. If I don't do it and
Speaker 1: then next time you see me, you don't think I
Speaker 1: owe you a converse? Yo? Yo yo, what would happen?
Speaker 1: That's just that's just what you did wrong with him, right,
Speaker 1: and let it be no, let it be no. We
Speaker 1: know when that's not what men do, what you do,
Speaker 1: it's it's not what men do. So yeah, I did
Speaker 1: sit down and have a conversation. And you know it's
Speaker 1: been so long, I don't even think we can go
Speaker 1: over everything to be able to be like, you know, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: well this and that in the third it's just to
Speaker 1: be more about like, well what happens from here? You
Speaker 1: know what can happen from here that reached stuff from you?
Speaker 1: Or where have you ever told the Dane read of
Speaker 1: them dudes? Nah? Bro, nah now? And I ain't pressed, bro,
Speaker 1: and I ain't mad. You know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I've been there. That ship took me to
Speaker 1: a dark place. I've been there, and I just learned
Speaker 1: that being humble, man, it takes you long ways. Be
Speaker 1: forgiven because that's the whole point right here. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Once I started forgiving and forgive those dudes, man,
Speaker 1: my life just got a hope. It just got way
Speaker 1: more better. You know what I'm saying. That ship I
Speaker 1: got to let go that hate, that envy and all
Speaker 1: that other ship you know what I'm saying, and things
Speaker 1: just all my blessing and start coming my way. Bro,
Speaker 1: I just said, I'm gonna tell you something. Don't think
Speaker 1: he ain't thinking about you most depen. You don't spend
Speaker 1: that much time as I was looking at how close
Speaker 1: you guys were, Because I'm gonna tell you this. I
Speaker 1: got homeboys like world with like that back in Ohio,
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter if I don't talk to them
Speaker 1: for two years we get back together. Door. That's something
Speaker 1: that love is still there, that same love is still there. Dog.
Speaker 1: So you can't tell me he not think about you, like, hey,
Speaker 1: hey listen, I gotta listen. You can listen to the music,
Speaker 1: he replies, and talk back to everything, like a lot
Speaker 1: of people think I'd be like, Yo, you're talking. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking to myself. Bro. Everything I'm talking about he
Speaker 1: he talked about on records. It's I'm saying he replies
Speaker 1: to everything, mostly about people be like, Yo, what are
Speaker 1: you still doing this? My man? Then you just listen
Speaker 1: to the Drake album. He told you how he felt you.
Speaker 1: You know, they just listen to four four four? Did
Speaker 1: you listen to that? Did you listen to these records.
Speaker 1: I ain't been just talking, bro, We've been going back
Speaker 1: and forth for twenty five years. My dude. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's music and that gets it's all
Speaker 1: buried in the music and everything. Man. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That last that last situation where he said that,
Speaker 1: you know on the um on Drake album, and it
Speaker 1: shows you, Yo, he watched Marcy Made. If you listen,
Speaker 1: If you watch Marcy Made and then you listen to
Speaker 1: what he just said on Drake album, he'd tell you like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I sat watch Marty Made. Mm hmm. Human. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. He's thinking about you. He was obviously, Bro.
Speaker 1: He human and he knows what it is. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And when he do ship like that,
Speaker 1: it's all up to me because you know, it helps
Speaker 1: me out. You know what I'm saying. It don't make
Speaker 1: me feel crazy now now I know I ain't crazy.
Speaker 1: Now you arens to me you feel I'm saying it
Speaker 1: clarifies that that's his therapy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Releasing talking to me through music, I guess and you
Speaker 1: know what it deals sometimes man, I'm pretty sure he's
Speaker 1: in a way more mature place. You know, both of
Speaker 1: you guys are light years ahead from where you were
Speaker 1: before when you'all was messing with each other. Right, both
Speaker 1: of y'all in a different plays. So I'm thinking, man,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to just say I'm sorry, especially someone
Speaker 1: you love. Sometimes it's just a little bit of pride
Speaker 1: and it's like you don't know how to come back,
Speaker 1: like man, I know I'd be the wrong. So listen.
Speaker 1: So so you have a conversation and you say, yo,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, I I don't have an answer.
Speaker 1: You know, ship you know, and I Nigga can understand.
Speaker 1: You say, Yo, man, I wasn't thinking at all. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Ship this way, this way, this way,
Speaker 1: That's what I said. I'm not looking for no excuses
Speaker 1: and all that ship sit down and being mad and
Speaker 1: be like yo, man, you know funked up. So through
Speaker 1: all of your contents, you don't have a way to
Speaker 1: get to him on the phone. Nah said that ain't
Speaker 1: who I am. I've done that. But you know you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna go You know, you know your your character.
Speaker 1: Don't perceive to you to be no dick chase, no
Speaker 1: no no to be chasing no nigger around for no
Speaker 1: you fel I'm saying is just to have a conversation
Speaker 1: and not not pity and patter around the situation and
Speaker 1: to say, man, jell us, dude, this is my number.
Speaker 1: Get at me now. If he don't, then if we understand,
Speaker 1: we know what it is. I stopped that a long
Speaker 1: time ago, bro, like you know what. You know what, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not chasing nothing. I could get right
Speaker 1: up on him that that's no problem. I could get
Speaker 1: right up on him, but for what. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. For what if he ain't ready and he
Speaker 1: don't want to break that ship to go wrong. It
Speaker 1: could go wrong, and I'm cool legs to me if
Speaker 1: he don't say nothing and care not that I ever
Speaker 1: want to speak to me again. I'm cool with that too.
Speaker 1: My story is out there and my side is out there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The other the culture of the people is the ones
Speaker 1: that's saying, man, why this dude wolts to that's with you?
Speaker 1: I said it beat them. They talk all that, you know,
Speaker 1: black excellence, black love, We should do all that, nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm here right, they don't be us. It ain't us,
Speaker 1: sweet where we you know exactly where to find us.
Speaker 1: He told you that on the Drake album. I know
Speaker 1: where you're at. It don't be us, man, it be
Speaker 1: their egos and whatever the situation is, it's cool because honestly, man,
Speaker 1: you can look at it like this man and be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, Man, I ain't want you to be
Speaker 1: a part of this. Man, this ain't for you, mom,
Speaker 1: This ship I do over here, this ship that's going
Speaker 1: on here and for you, Mom. That's why I ain't
Speaker 1: trying to bring you over here. Man, right, you understand saying,
Speaker 1: And it's up to you to be a man excepted
Speaker 1: reject that. But at the end of the day, you
Speaker 1: don't know what what's going on over there, and the
Speaker 1: nigga might not want you to know, like yo, but
Speaker 1: I just can can you be all right with me
Speaker 1: just telling you this ain't for you? Knowing what type
Speaker 1: of person I was anyway I'm saying, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I have to keep putting. I had
Speaker 1: to give myself different perspectives of why why? Why? God?
Speaker 1: When the why God? You know? Because God, my ship
Speaker 1: is wrote you know, and this is where God wanted
Speaker 1: to be where I'm at right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And when you and you see what's going on over there,
Speaker 1: and the more you see what's going over there, you
Speaker 1: start to understand, like, Yo, you know what you had
Speaker 1: a different name. I'm glad this fault did it go
Speaker 1: this way? Right? You know what I'm saying. That don't
Speaker 1: mean he happy over there. A lot of people think
Speaker 1: what you think because you what you see and what
Speaker 1: he got means he happy over there. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm good. You know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: I also did a I did a joint saying, like
Speaker 1: you know, it's possibly he saved my life, bro, because
Speaker 1: I wouldn't you know, if he hadn't looked out for
Speaker 1: me and took me with him when I was back then,
Speaker 1: when at a time where my mind was out fucked
Speaker 1: all that up, Definitely I would have been I would
Speaker 1: have sucked it up. I would have been on Rihanna.
Speaker 1: I would have been on all of them. I sucked
Speaker 1: it up. I would have did some nigga ship, you know,
Speaker 1: like a motherfucker. Really, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have sucked it up. I was one of
Speaker 1: them while niggers. If I wasn't, I'd have sucked it
Speaker 1: all up. And I definitely would have sucked it up
Speaker 1: if I would have got over there and seeing the
Speaker 1: chick that he dealt with the police chick, you know,
Speaker 1: not to throw this off, But I would have been like, no,
Speaker 1: why we can't do that. Oh, I would have kill
Speaker 1: I hout to kill somebody, somebody to kill me. All
Speaker 1: of the beats that he had. If I was there,
Speaker 1: one of my biggest nigga son. And you think him
Speaker 1: and Jay like each other, how is that gonna work
Speaker 1: for me? You know what I'm saying. I was not
Speaker 1: gonna work for me now, Nonah, the situations with him
Speaker 1: and Nas, all that ship on, all that drama. Nah,
Speaker 1: I come from a different men. I come from different
Speaker 1: That ship would have turned out different. So I'm blessed times. Man.
Speaker 1: You never mean, I'm gonna tell you. I'm a firm
Speaker 1: believer man that God is the designer of everything. Man,
Speaker 1: So sometimes and stuff just don't happen out of his
Speaker 1: will because he knows what's gonna happen. He probably did
Speaker 1: say your life though, That's what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, we even even even down, even down to
Speaker 1: leaving me in jail, feel me, because mind you, I
Speaker 1: fought with a fucking caught, a pointing attorney, a federal child.
Speaker 1: I thought, with it, I've done that ship on my own.
Speaker 1: So I just say that. Say, if Jay would have
Speaker 1: helped me and came in with some job, some legal teamship,
Speaker 1: that's sit probably would have hurt me. I probably would
Speaker 1: have sat back and let them do what they do.
Speaker 1: And they probably have came and went with a good number,
Speaker 1: how about ten, because I would have took it no
Speaker 1: and that these dudes are professionals. They're gonna tell me
Speaker 1: what's right. I ain't gonna read the case fucking you
Speaker 1: know tennis good? Uh, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that probably would have hurt me. They had been like
Speaker 1: where you get the money for this act? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So, I mean I went through that
Speaker 1: stage of you know, why why why? You know? And
Speaker 1: I stopped blaming him when I see different perspectives. One
Speaker 1: thing for sure, I knew who was God when I
Speaker 1: was sitting in that cell waiting on Jay, going please, James, please, man,
Speaker 1: like he was God. That ship wasn't happening. But when
Speaker 1: I asked, got on my knees and say God, Man, listen, Man,
Speaker 1: get me out of this one, and you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: work nothing else. And look where I ended up. So
Speaker 1: every time after that happened, Bro, my first go to
Speaker 1: is God, Bro. And everything I prayed for after that
Speaker 1: I got, from getting out of jail, getting a good job,
Speaker 1: having a kid, putting my movie out. Everything I got
Speaker 1: I prayed for, man asked for. That's how I know
Speaker 1: he can't stop it. Where you know what the good
Speaker 1: words and then a good word always says man, put
Speaker 1: your faith in God, not man, because man will let
Speaker 1: you down all the time, right man. And that's where
Speaker 1: I was lost that man. I was lost there. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's why I tell you about
Speaker 1: that hate. Man. God wasn't gonna bless me, and so
Speaker 1: I got that ship about of me. I had to
Speaker 1: ask God, yo, look, get this out of me, man,
Speaker 1: because you know in my everyday thoughts. Just then do
Speaker 1: something to get this out of You know what God did,
Speaker 1: And that's why I say, when you pray for something,
Speaker 1: you gotta ask God specifically what you want. God gave
Speaker 1: me that little kid, God said, you want to stop
Speaker 1: thinking about them? Here? Take that? Take that right, that's
Speaker 1: what you're gonna be your more most important phobus. Man.
Speaker 1: So now that the movie is are um, I know
Speaker 1: it's on t WTV, is on any other platform? Man,
Speaker 1: right now, it's on two. It's going to be um
Speaker 1: and it's doing well. Man. That was that. That's like,
Speaker 1: that's a worldwide platform right now, and that's a big
Speaker 1: look for us to be. Is the biggest on screening
Speaker 1: platform on the planet right now though, just about yeah,
Speaker 1: just about man. And it's doing good. Um, the numbers
Speaker 1: are looking good. It's doing good people now, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe because it's free. That's what's up. You know, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, but you know, and I definitely appreciate the
Speaker 1: supporters from the beginning that paid for MONSTI made because
Speaker 1: they when the gout there without them, you know, that's
Speaker 1: what that's the good thing about the Internet. The black
Speaker 1: ball is not possible days. You can't stop the bumper.
Speaker 1: It's like they say in fact that the bump rus
Speaker 1: cannot be started. You cannot, Yeah, you definitely, man, you
Speaker 1: can't stop with the streets of the one You can't
Speaker 1: stop what God got. What God got for me, somebody
Speaker 1: can stop it. Man. Look man, and for me to
Speaker 1: walk around these streets in different cities and people walk
Speaker 1: up to me, man, say, keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I love Your story is dope. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It don't seem I to you that no major dudes
Speaker 1: in the industry can't check it from me and go, Yo,
Speaker 1: what you wanna do with that? It don't see y'all,
Speaker 1: this ain't no little story. Yeah yeah, but to me,
Speaker 1: this is this is the independence. See everything they're doing
Speaker 1: to me, how hard it is for Marcy made to
Speaker 1: make they went through it. I'm just going through my channels,
Speaker 1: all right. Cool y'all wanna sunk with it. Cool y'all
Speaker 1: wanna funk with it. But you know how to get
Speaker 1: when they get all the way up. Then you get
Speaker 1: in that room. They're all in there like yo, what man?
Speaker 1: I was like, Nah, I don't funk with y'all like that, right,
Speaker 1: You know they want you to put on them sheep clothes. Man,
Speaker 1: They want you to put on the sheep clothes. Real man,
Speaker 1: So two old people. Man, I didn't want to get
Speaker 1: at you where they can find you with THO. Man. Man,
Speaker 1: you can always find me on Marsy made series. I
Speaker 1: g you know what I'm saying, Um, that's all. I'm
Speaker 1: always on that man, so and I'm always engaging with
Speaker 1: my people's Man. You can DM me um anytime. Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate if you guys to get you whoever listening,
Speaker 1: y'all can share that Massy made um on on to
Speaker 1: be man. Watch it. Man. It's a good look because
Speaker 1: you you can learn something from that. Man. It ain't
Speaker 1: no old bitter situation. Man, just look at it like
Speaker 1: you can learn something from that. Man. And I gotta
Speaker 1: tell people, man for sure. Man, like long story show,
Speaker 1: you can do something for somebody for a thousand times
Speaker 1: as you can say yes, yes a thousand times. But
Speaker 1: the moment you tell them no, man, the Mothercker's can
Speaker 1: turn your back ron in a second. None of that
Speaker 1: should have count, you know what I mean. And that's
Speaker 1: how I look at my story, All the sacrifices that
Speaker 1: I made, all the sacrifices that my family made. That
Speaker 1: ship wasn't worth nothing to people, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That that's how easy it is that people will change
Speaker 1: on you, you know. So, Yeah, Man, you know the difference.
Speaker 1: You know, God is good. So I see you going
Speaker 1: a long way man. Just you know I had a
Speaker 1: rough time with that. But listening to you, man, I
Speaker 1: think you got your parities right. And man, good luck
Speaker 1: to you, brother, and I appreciate that man coming from
Speaker 1: a g like you. Man. Much respect to you, bro,
Speaker 1: and uh and uh you know what you put in
Speaker 1: the game, man. I've seen you and on several plat phones, man,
Speaker 1: and it defeats me game. And I respect that, man,
Speaker 1: and I definitely respect you still for having me on
Speaker 1: the show. Man. This is dope, man, any type of
Speaker 1: way y'all want to chop it up about anything East
Speaker 1: coast wise and West coast wise. Man, Sure we don't
Speaker 1: get you back like I told you when you was
Speaker 1: worried about getting Man's the same question as I said, No, Bro,
Speaker 1: we've way different anybody else. We have conversations, so we
Speaker 1: don't do interviews. Ride. Yeah, it's decent, man, because you
Speaker 1: get the chop. You get to know what the person
Speaker 1: really is. And other than this ain't scripted. This should
Speaker 1: come off the gut. We we have conversations that we
Speaker 1: want people to know who you are, your story, your
Speaker 1: life is bad. Man. Your whole history with Jay is
Speaker 1: just one little, one little friend in fabric of your
Speaker 1: time and your existence. You feel what I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not your whole embodiment. I want people to know we
Speaker 1: ain't got a wife outside of you, right right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You know that's a whole another level that they don't know.
Speaker 1: Some people think I live and breathe and eat this ship, man,
Speaker 1: but you know I'm outside of that. Man. I'm a parent,
Speaker 1: hard working you know, I'm a carpenter by trade. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm out here with y'all. Like that's what's that's unique
Speaker 1: about here with you. But I'm not gett you, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We appreciate that. You're gonna
Speaker 1: hear dog and we go, man, we go. Don't let
Speaker 1: you terming because I know it's played over on the
Speaker 1: East Coast. We appreciate you next week, man, I appreciate you. Man.
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, man, Peace out, man, brother man. Whatever