Speaker 1: I just said to you what Kennedy said in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty three that if we go to war with the
Speaker 1: Soviet Union, life on Earth will be destroyed in twenty
Speaker 1: four hours.
Speaker 2: A fed bell out of twenty nine trillion dollars, rates down,
Speaker 2: markets up, and nuclear war on the horizon. Of course,
Speaker 2: then media propaganda and censorship comes next, and these are
Speaker 2: the things that we're facing. Talking to none other than
Speaker 2: the one and only Jerald Silente, the author of the
Speaker 2: Trends Journal, who's been accurately forecasting the trends for the
Speaker 2: last several decades. You've seen him on all the biggest
Speaker 2: TV shows, Oprah, Winford, you name it. He's been forecasting
Speaker 2: the trends. And today I have him on the show
Speaker 2: to discuss exactly what's going on with the regime change
Speaker 2: at the Central Banks and Ferl Reserve, what is happening
Speaker 2: with the potential for war all around the world, the
Speaker 2: media propaganda, the censorship, the move to save democracy, and
Speaker 2: so much more. If you want to know where the
Speaker 2: world is going and what you expected how to prepare,
Speaker 2: then you want to listen to this interview with Gerald Silente,
Speaker 2: who's been accurately predicting and publishing the trends for multiple decades,
Speaker 2: and maybe Zuckerberg go will shoot. If Musk can do that,
Speaker 2: maybe I could stand up against them a little bit.
Speaker 2: Do you think maybe we're starting to see a little
Speaker 2: bit of pushback, maybe enough people to sort of start
Speaker 2: swinging this back the other way.
Speaker 1: Why do I give a damn when I look at
Speaker 1: that Suckerberg? Who the hell are they to tell us
Speaker 1: what to do. It's up to the people. It's up
Speaker 1: to the people to unite.
Speaker 2: All right, Gerald Cialente Trends Journal, the author of Trends
Speaker 2: Journal for decades, something that i've recently I turned in
Speaker 2: New Years ago, but you've been doing this for decades,
Speaker 2: calling out the trends. And of course if everybody wants
Speaker 2: to know where the world is going, they should be
Speaker 2: reading the Trends Journal. We're going to make sure we
Speaker 2: link to that down below. Gerald. It's always an honor
Speaker 2: to have you on the show. So thanks for taking
Speaker 2: the time to come sit down with me today.
Speaker 3: No, what do you kidd I'm great being on with you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate everything that you do and it's an hota
Speaker 1: for me to be on with you.
Speaker 2: You know, I love history because I believe that if
Speaker 2: we can sort of understand history, it sort of gives
Speaker 2: us this roadmap of where we're going. And so it's
Speaker 2: like if I touch the stove one time and I
Speaker 2: burn myself, if I touch it again, I'll probably burn myself,
Speaker 2: maybe my hand, maybe my arm, but like the same
Speaker 2: thing sort of happens. And you've been studying these trends
Speaker 2: for now decades, and so you've got a lot of
Speaker 2: this history and precedence. Before we started recording, you started
Speaker 2: telling me how we saw similarities to World War Two
Speaker 2: with Japan and Russia, Ukraine and now in Israel, and
Speaker 2: you see these things kind of repeating over and over.
Speaker 2: So tell us before we get into specific because I
Speaker 2: want to talk about your latest posts. You talk about
Speaker 2: rates down, markets up, there's a regime change for central
Speaker 2: banks around the world. I want to talk about the markets.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about nuclear war on the horizon,
Speaker 2: Russia warnings, things like that. I want to talk about
Speaker 2: Kamala and Trump and the media, propaganda and censorship. So
Speaker 2: those are topics I want to cover. But let's just
Speaker 2: start with the trends. So you've been doing this a
Speaker 2: long time. Tell us how you look through these trends
Speaker 2: and how that tells you a picture and kind of
Speaker 2: how this tells us where we're going in the future,
Speaker 2: Like what's your methodology?
Speaker 1: Well, number one, it's it's it's not what you want,
Speaker 1: what you like, or what you believe is what is.
Speaker 1: And one of my sayings is opportunity misses those who
Speaker 1: view the world through the eyes of their profession. And again,
Speaker 1: you know, I have my you know, my books, you know,
Speaker 1: international and bestseller. You know, Trends two thousand and the
Speaker 1: other one over here somewhere trend tracking far better than
Speaker 1: Mega trends Time Magazine. And I've been asked this a
Speaker 1: lot of years, you know, since nineteen eighty and so
Speaker 1: people get caught up in their belief system. And not
Speaker 1: only that, if you're studying economics and you're really grading economics,
Speaker 1: how about looking about what's going on in the world
Speaker 1: through the socioeconomic lens. So, for example, in your trends journal,
Speaker 1: we have a whole section on AI, a whole section
Speaker 1: on high tech science, the whole section on technocracy, whole
Speaker 1: section on geopolitics, whole section on global economics, whole sections
Speaker 1: in different areas. So we look at the world for
Speaker 1: the way it is. So for example, I subscribe to
Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, I get
Speaker 1: them delivered at the Financial Times.
Speaker 3: But I also travel the world.
Speaker 1: So now we have, for example, the Ukraine War going on,
Speaker 1: in the Israel War, well, the Israel War. I subscribe
Speaker 1: to hat E's, the Israeli newspaper. I want to know
Speaker 1: what they're saying. And I go to Global Times of
Speaker 1: Israel and Jerusalem Post, and then I go to Tiran Times.
Speaker 1: I want to hear what the Iranians are saying.
Speaker 3: Press TV.
Speaker 1: I want to hear what the Iranians are saying. ISNA
Speaker 1: and I RNA. I want to hear what the Iranians
Speaker 1: are saying. I go to Arab News, I go to
Speaker 1: Al Jazeera. I want to hear what the Arabs are saying.
Speaker 1: So we cover the world. We go to Global Times.
Speaker 1: What do the Chinese say? So then what we do
Speaker 1: in the Trend's Journal, we said, this is what's being reported,
Speaker 1: this is our analysis, and this is our trend forecast.
Speaker 1: So I'll give you an idea why we go to
Speaker 1: different sources.
Speaker 3: Go to I may have the article.
Speaker 1: Here the Financial Times just a couple of days ago,
Speaker 1: and It was about what's going on with this attack
Speaker 1: that just happened in in Lebanon, when Israel knocked out
Speaker 1: these pages and they've killed a couple of dozen people,
Speaker 1: and they say they wounded up to almost four thousand.
Speaker 1: This is the headline from Financial Times. Of course, in
Speaker 1: about six hundred and ninety dollars or something a year.
Speaker 1: Militant groups struggled struggles to restore calm after double blow
Speaker 1: exposes its vulnerabilities and they go on in a humiliating
Speaker 1: blow to a militant force. The explosion left the militant group.
Speaker 1: The militants leader Hassana Sola, the attack has embarrassed the
Speaker 1: militant group, the Iran backed militant group. The people said,
Speaker 1: the military it goes on militant group. Oh Hesbela is
Speaker 1: a militant group according to who, according to about sixty countries.
Speaker 3: Out of one hundred and ninety six.
Speaker 1: And why is hesbel a military group? They had the
Speaker 1: nerve to drive Israel at a Lebanon in two thousand
Speaker 1: and six. Why those lousy militants, Why look at those
Speaker 1: terrors that used to be in a rock in Afghanistan
Speaker 1: that try to throw out the Americans they are militants too.
Speaker 1: That's the difference in what we do. We don't use
Speaker 1: that kind of language that already sets the tone for
Speaker 1: the readers to look at it in one side.
Speaker 2: So you have to learn to look through the news
Speaker 2: and understand what's fact and then what's opinion. And then
Speaker 2: I guess over a period of time, when you're looking
Speaker 2: at it this way and multiple sources on both sides,
Speaker 2: then it sort of starts to help you understand where
Speaker 2: the fact and opinion in the Propagandali is that kind
Speaker 2: of what you're saying?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: And again, you know I used to be on Oh Brother,
Speaker 1: Today's show, Good Morning to marry everybody, everybody.
Speaker 3: All over the world. But they don't want to hear
Speaker 3: other one.
Speaker 1: I call them prostitutes, media whares that get paid to
Speaker 1: put out by their corporate pimps, and of them and
Speaker 1: war masters. Look at the clowns show. Oh what's that
Speaker 1: that woman sake on MSNBC.
Speaker 3: Where'd she come from? Oh?
Speaker 1: She was with the with the Biden administration. Oh and
Speaker 1: who's that guy, Stephanopolis. He was with the Bill Clinton Club.
Speaker 1: It's one after another. There's no journalism anymore. And again
Speaker 1: talking about by the way this was. This was a
Speaker 1: T shirt I did when Clinton ran for office back
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 3: Beware is slick, Willie.
Speaker 1: This is the lousy sob I could go on and on,
Speaker 1: gave us the Federal Communications Act in nineteen ninety six
Speaker 1: that allowed the Biggs to take over the entire media.
Speaker 1: Six companies controlled ninety two percent of Americans media. Back
Speaker 1: in the day, there were thousands, thousands of independent radio stations, newspapers,
Speaker 1: and TV stations, local gone, gone, gone, the big Zone everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're not getting any information the prostitutes.
Speaker 2: Of course, the Internet is sort of turning the tides
Speaker 2: on that. I want to get into the media propaganda.
Speaker 2: But let's just kind of start at the top here,
Speaker 2: because a lot of this is sort of downstream, if
Speaker 2: you will, almost right. So one of the things that
Speaker 2: you say a lot is when all else fails, you know,
Speaker 2: when the money supply runs out, when the debt is
Speaker 2: a is a limit, then they take you to war.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the money side first, and then
Speaker 2: we'll go downstream of that. So you had just said
Speaker 2: rates down, markets up, So we think about these regime changes,
Speaker 2: and so the central banks and the Federal Reserve, but
Speaker 2: all the other major central banks have been in this
Speaker 2: tightening cycle, and now we've seen them move into this
Speaker 2: easing cycle. So the rates down easying or more comminative,
Speaker 2: and the markets are responding. Now a lot of people
Speaker 2: think that markets crash when the Fed's lower rates. History
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily tell us that picture. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of it depends on the context of that. But what
Speaker 2: do you think about when you made that post saying
Speaker 2: rates down, markets up, and this in light of this
Speaker 2: new regime change that we're going into.
Speaker 3: Well, we've been saying that this is very simple.
Speaker 1: One of our you know, each year we do top trends,
Speaker 1: and one of our top trends this year was a
Speaker 1: golden year for gold. When we made gold prices are
Speaker 1: up almost six hundred dollars an ounce since we made
Speaker 1: that forecast.
Speaker 3: It was very simple.
Speaker 1: We said they're going to start lowering rates in a
Speaker 1: run up to the presidential reality show.
Speaker 3: They do it all the time.
Speaker 1: The lower interest rates go, the deeper the dollar falls.
Speaker 1: The deeper the dollar falls, the higher goal prices go up.
Speaker 1: And the only reason the dollar's been strong is because
Speaker 1: of the high interest rates. And you mentioned that they
Speaker 1: were in a tightening cycle. What brought them into the
Speaker 1: tightening cycle. Let's go back to the COVID War twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Close down your business, don't go to work. Here's some
Speaker 1: free money, trillions, trillions, trillions, trillions, countless trillions of dollars
Speaker 1: across the globe, dumped into the markets on money backed
Speaker 1: by nothing and printed on nothing. So they did this
Speaker 1: tightening to try to stop the rising inflation. And again
Speaker 1: you know the numbers. What are the cost of the
Speaker 1: house now is like fifty percent more than it was
Speaker 1: four years ago. I mean, oh, and the debt. When
Speaker 1: you look at the real debt in the United States,
Speaker 1: when you put in social Security all the other stuff,
Speaker 1: it's like two hundred and sixty trillion dollars.
Speaker 3: Oh, but we'll use the real.
Speaker 1: Number of a little bit over thirty five trillion and
Speaker 1: two trillion dollars just paying the interest on the day
Speaker 1: each year. I mean, who, what business, what individual could
Speaker 1: run a life with the equivalent of not the trillions,
Speaker 1: but the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: dollars deep in debt, on and on and on and
Speaker 1: keep piling on more debt. Nobody can do it. The
Speaker 1: whole system is going to crash. It's only going to
Speaker 1: be a matter of time. And helped to say one
Speaker 1: other thing about this, going back to where the crisis
Speaker 1: is going to explode, beyond the geopolitical end. What no
Speaker 1: one is talking about. A forecast be made in May
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, when they force people to work from home.
Speaker 1: Office building bust. In the next two years and four months,
Speaker 1: four trillion dollars worth of commercial real estate loans are
Speaker 1: coming due your office vacancy rate. Nobody there in the
Speaker 1: major cities in the United States officially is that twenty
Speaker 1: four percent. On fiftieth Street in New York City, in
Speaker 1: Midtown Manhattan, about a month ago, the building sports Illustrated
Speaker 1: used to be there that sold for three one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars in two thousand and six, went
Speaker 1: up for auction and sold for eight point five million dollars.
Speaker 1: You could look it up, Google it up.
Speaker 3: It's right there.
Speaker 1: You know why, because all this bs that they're going
Speaker 1: to convert these into apartments. That's all it is. Buildings
Speaker 1: built within the fifth last fifty years. Again, only go
Speaker 1: by the data. It's not what I'm making up. It's
Speaker 1: being reported, are non convertible. Let's take that one on
Speaker 1: fiftieth Street. It's in the middle of the block, got
Speaker 1: no windows behind you, got no windows from side to side.
Speaker 3: How are you going to turn it into apartments? Now?
Speaker 1: With people not going back to work and the guy
Speaker 1: or whoever firm that has you know, fifteen flaws in
Speaker 1: a building, they don't see the people anywhere who were
Speaker 1: working working in cubicles.
Speaker 3: I don't need all the space. You stay home coming
Speaker 3: two or three days a week.
Speaker 1: Your office occupancy rate according to Castle Systems with a
Speaker 1: K fifty.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now, not only the bank's going to go bust, which
Speaker 1: they're not talking about, not at all. And let's go
Speaker 1: back to twenty twenty three, not ancient history. Silicon Khanman,
Speaker 1: Valley Bank, Signature Bank, First Republic Bank went busted. The
Speaker 1: markets were crashing and goal prices was spiking. That was
Speaker 1: three banks. Oh and you know as well that last
Speaker 1: week they were trying to force the banks to have
Speaker 1: more money in the banks to cover losses, and they said,
Speaker 1: screw you.
Speaker 3: We're not doing it. We run the government.
Speaker 1: Basically, I tell everybody a good sight to go to
Speaker 1: is called Wall Street on parade by Pam and Russ
Speaker 1: Martin's and they write more about the banksters and the
Speaker 1: criminality of it than anybody that I know. So again,
Speaker 1: they don't have the money to cover it. And when
Speaker 1: they got all that free money during the COVID War
Speaker 1: in the beginning, they bore, they bought treasuries right with
Speaker 1: zero interest rates, So they don't have the dough.
Speaker 3: To cover this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you a question.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a fresh which you've never seen.
Speaker 2: From somebody who's been now reporting this since the eighties,
Speaker 2: like you said, and obviously even paying attention much longer
Speaker 2: than that. You know, something that I talk about quite
Speaker 2: often is that something changed, and I really pinned that
Speaker 2: to two thousand and eight when we saw q start
Speaker 2: here in the United States. But really what we saw
Speaker 2: was a shift in the way that central banks and
Speaker 2: governments interact in markets. And so you know, in this
Speaker 2: sevents the eighties, the two thousand crash, it didn't seem
Speaker 2: like the government wanted to intervene so much. Maybe they
Speaker 2: were proactive, they sort of like let things kind of
Speaker 2: see how they settled, and sure they fiddled with their
Speaker 2: rates a little bit, but you didn't see the ballouts,
Speaker 2: and now two thousand and eight was like, oh shoot,
Speaker 2: we should do something. It was very late, took about
Speaker 2: three years from the real estate crash in six till
Speaker 2: the time they finally bail at the banks in two
Speaker 2: thousand and eight, about thirty thirty months. But now what
Speaker 2: we're seeing is that they're not just waiting to be reactionary.
Speaker 2: They're proactive. And so in twenty twenty it took six
Speaker 2: days to get the bailouts. Put to your point about
Speaker 2: the Wall Street banks in twenty twenty three, we injected
Speaker 2: the money in six days. And when you look at
Speaker 2: sort of that trend back to the Trends Journal, when
Speaker 2: you look at the trend in the way they interact,
Speaker 2: and now they're being proactive. They're setting out the swap lines.
Speaker 2: And even further you mentioned the banks like in two
Speaker 2: thousand and eight, I mean they bought all those mortgage
Speaker 2: backed securities, just put them on the books, same thing
Speaker 2: that they did in the three banks collapse in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three. And I understand this big debt bomb you're
Speaker 2: talking about the commercial real estate market, but based off
Speaker 2: of the trend in the way central banks work in
Speaker 2: the market. Why wouldn't they just put that on their
Speaker 2: balance sheet. I mean, I believe, of course they will.
Speaker 2: And I'm just curious your point on.
Speaker 1: That it's going to be bigger than that we are
Speaker 1: going to be able to cover and get away with.
Speaker 3: It's going to bed.
Speaker 1: But of course they could lie about it, like you're
Speaker 1: talking about two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve dumped in twenty nine trillion dollars to
Speaker 1: bail out the banks.
Speaker 2: And no one's ever heard that number. Lead the Institute
Speaker 2: of Bard College, Well, no one's ever heard that number before.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 1: Again, according to the leading institute at Bard College, twenty
Speaker 1: nine trillion dollars. This is going to be much much worse.
Speaker 1: And because what you have is a reality. And then
Speaker 1: let's go back again. You know, by the way, I
Speaker 1: thought the markets were going to crash again in twenty
Speaker 1: and twelve, but they didn't. It's what you were saying,
Speaker 1: what they'll do. They didn't teach me about quantitative easing
Speaker 1: was zero interest rate policy in economics one oh one. Well,
Speaker 1: graduate school, they'll make up any crap that they want. So, yes,
Speaker 1: they're going to try to avoid it. But I believe
Speaker 1: it's going to be unavoidable again because you have to
Speaker 1: keep looking at the whole picture. Look at again, we
Speaker 1: write about this over and over again. Look at all
Speaker 1: the businesses that depended on commuters that are going out
Speaker 1: of business.
Speaker 3: Look at.
Speaker 1: We sit with the sayings is the fish rots from
Speaker 1: the head down. Look at luxury sales declining across the board.
Speaker 1: Look at dollar general, a dollar, trio, dollar this, a
Speaker 1: dollar that, and what they're reporting report. Listen to what
Speaker 1: Walmart is saying year the sales are going up because
Speaker 1: people at once upon a time had money, can't afford
Speaker 1: it any more.
Speaker 3: They're going to Walmonts.
Speaker 1: This thing's going down. It's artificially propped up. And you
Speaker 1: saw the employment numbers that came out though they were
Speaker 1: weaker than expected. And in what kind of jobs are
Speaker 1: being created, well, in the healthcare services and hospitality and
Speaker 1: those kind of sectors service sector jobs that pay nothing. Now,
Speaker 1: this is serious and again it's going to do. I
Speaker 1: agree with you one thousand percent. They will do anything
Speaker 1: possible to try to push it back up, but I
Speaker 1: think it's not going to happen.
Speaker 3: And again, this is global it.
Speaker 1: Look what happened Canary wharf, HSBC moved out one after another,
Speaker 1: one after another.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is global. And if we look at current history,
Speaker 2: recent history, past history, so we look at Argentina, Venezuela, Lebanon, Turkey,
Speaker 2: we can go back a little bit further. We can
Speaker 2: look at like, you know, Zimbabwe, we can go further back.
Speaker 2: You know why am o republic. There's never been a
Speaker 2: case ever, and you can correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I can't remember a case ever where a government said, well, boys,
Speaker 2: pack it up. It was a good run while it lasted,
Speaker 2: and then just let the whole system crash. Instead, it's
Speaker 2: always the law of diminishing returns, where they say, well,
Speaker 2: let's just keep going until it doesn't work anymore. That's
Speaker 2: what I see happening in the world today and in
Speaker 2: previous So based off of that and understanding a little
Speaker 2: bit of human psychology, it makes me think that they
Speaker 2: pedal to the metal until the metal doesn't work anymore,
Speaker 2: the law of diminishing returns. And so while we're still
Speaker 2: getting some growth, eventually the stimulus stops working. Eventually Zimbabwe collapses.
Speaker 2: But Venezuela, Argentina, at Lebanon, they can keep going for
Speaker 2: a really long time.
Speaker 3: Again, go back to the Great Depression. They couldn't get
Speaker 3: out of it. You World War two got it.
Speaker 2: But you would argue that that's go back. But you
Speaker 2: would argue that in the Great Depression, the government didn't
Speaker 2: dump in twenty nine trillion dollars and if they did
Speaker 2: of they probably could have blown the stimulus wide open.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. You know, so sometimes it
Speaker 1: works and sometimes they don't do anything. And I think
Speaker 1: this time there's no way out of it. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's a way they're gonna try to do it.
Speaker 3: I mean, look what goes on. I mean they got
Speaker 3: to think all the.
Speaker 1: Plunge protection to you, what are you talking to, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna rig the markets if they go down too deep.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a crime work. If people call it
Speaker 1: a government I call it a crime stap.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm certainly not saying that they'll get out of it.
Speaker 2: Like there's only one outcome, that's there's only one probable
Speaker 2: welcome at this The question I was just asking is
Speaker 2: when you look at argentinavan Is, way at Lebanon, Turkey,
Speaker 2: they all continue going until it doesn't work anymore. But
Speaker 2: that seems like it takes a really long time to
Speaker 2: get there. So rather than like a big crash shut
Speaker 2: it down, it's like, let's just keep printing until we
Speaker 2: go into hyperinflation at some point.
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, that could be well, well be as well.
Speaker 1: But again, it's gonna the economy is going to keep
Speaker 1: going down, right, it's not going to keep growing.
Speaker 3: It's going to grow very slowly and just in continuing
Speaker 3: to clucker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what we see in Argentina and all
Speaker 2: those countries. I mean, the rich, the rich gets smaller
Speaker 2: and smaller and small heard the poor get bigger and
Speaker 2: bigger and bigger. Because the economy continues to grumble. Things
Speaker 2: go on. They muddle along, so to speak. But it's
Speaker 2: it's bad for the majority of the people.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well the facts are roll there.
Speaker 1: How the majority of the people are suffering. I mean,
Speaker 1: who could afford what was the average price of a
Speaker 1: home now, like, you know, four hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars or something like that. And when your median household
Speaker 1: incomes wide about you know, seventy four thousand median household income.
Speaker 1: That means everybody in the family working too now they
Speaker 1: can't afford it. You know, and then and the bigs
Speaker 1: bud again going back to the the panic of O
Speaker 1: eight that domain name, by the way, it took out
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven. All of a sudden, these
Speaker 1: companies like Blackstone and everybody buying up all of these
Speaker 1: homes as people are losing them. And now look at
Speaker 1: all the apartment the homes that they own that I
Speaker 1: call those plantation workers of slave land deer. They can't
Speaker 1: afford to buy their homes, and the big zone all
Speaker 1: the homes. And you're talking about the decline of the country.
Speaker 1: You know, to me, well, you know, I mean to
Speaker 1: me at the time, you know, the Vietnam War. But
Speaker 1: the big decline began to happen. People forget that. They
Speaker 1: were pushing NAFTA between Reagan and Bush Senior. They couldn't
Speaker 1: pull it off, and they brought in Clinton. They called
Speaker 1: them like, they called this thing like a whole new
Speaker 1: Democratic Party. They stopped becoming liberals and they became this
Speaker 1: is the guy that again I mentioned, he gave us
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, nineteen ninety six to zero Communications Act,
Speaker 1: did away with the Glass Stiegel Act, brought China into
Speaker 1: the World Trade Organization. Every time he got caught with
Speaker 1: his pants down, his bombs away over bag Dad, the
Speaker 1: Yugoslav War. One thing after another, this guy unto me
Speaker 1: it changed again. I'm up in upstate New York. There
Speaker 1: used to be factories up here, Clinton, I mean Kingston
Speaker 1: Gant Factory, the Church Factory used to be here.
Speaker 3: There's one factory after another. They're all gone. It all
Speaker 3: started to happen.
Speaker 1: Going down really quick after they brought NAFTA and then
Speaker 1: China into the World Trade Organization. Why should you pay
Speaker 1: the people living wages when you could pay slave wages
Speaker 1: and make more on your product.
Speaker 2: Well, it certainly helped offset the inflation that they inflicted
Speaker 2: under the American people. At least they could buy cheaper goods,
Speaker 2: but at the rate of then obviously losing their jobs.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't a good trade. So we're in this
Speaker 2: situation now where it's inescapable. I think we both agree
Speaker 2: on that the timeframe of when it takes to get
Speaker 2: that love diminishing returns to kick in is unknowable. I
Speaker 2: think it goes on longer than most people think, but
Speaker 2: to the point that that you typically make Then moving
Speaker 2: on to the sort of the next topic is that
Speaker 2: you always say, then they take you to war, and
Speaker 2: so you're mentioning obviously now sort of every time these
Speaker 2: things went every time one of these new policies went through,
Speaker 2: it was bombs over Baghdad, so to speak. And so
Speaker 2: now we're moving into war, not just one war, multiple
Speaker 2: wars at the same time. And for you, someone who's
Speaker 2: been reporting the trends now for since the eighties. In
Speaker 2: the eighties we were still under the Cold War, we
Speaker 2: were still in an arms race. I feel like, and
Speaker 2: I'm not old enough to remember, so I'm asking you,
Speaker 2: I feel like we're closer to potential nuclear war today
Speaker 2: than we've ever been that I can remember. What's your
Speaker 2: take on that? And are we going to be able
Speaker 2: to get out of this alive?
Speaker 1: The cover of the Trends Journal magazine on February twenty second,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, two days before the Russian invasion over
Speaker 1: there Ukraine, from COVID War to Ukraine War to World War.
Speaker 3: World War III has already d begun.
Speaker 1: I agree with you totally. We are on the verge
Speaker 1: of nuclear annihilation. We have crazy people running a country
Speaker 1: near you. I said, what's your favorite war? I like
Speaker 1: the Peloponnesian War.
Speaker 3: It was lovely. I don't know. The War of Roses
Speaker 3: was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Oh, the one hundred Year War was just so delightful.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite crusade? Well, I like the eighth one
Speaker 1: better than the third one. You got crazy people running
Speaker 1: the show. You know, there's this is George Washington. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a real man, not like these little gutless boys,
Speaker 1: every one of them Draft dodgers, little Billy Clinton, Biden
Speaker 1: five draft deferments, Trump four draft deferments, and we're on.
Speaker 3: The same age.
Speaker 1: And I got I did everything I could, everything, everything
Speaker 1: I could not to get into Vietnam War. And I
Speaker 1: want to make this one thousand percent clear. I was
Speaker 1: stupid enough as a young kid to believe the crap
Speaker 1: that they were selling that if we don't stop those
Speaker 1: Commies in Vietnam, the dominoes are going to keep falling,
Speaker 1: and before you know it, they'll cross all of Asia
Speaker 1: and hit the shores of California. I even voted for
Speaker 1: Richard Nixon in nineteen sixty eight. I did everything I
Speaker 1: could to beat the draft because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: get my brains blown out. Moving forward, talking about George Washington,
Speaker 1: and I talked about these little gutless little boys like Obama,
Speaker 1: the nobel piece of crap prize winner, a little slime.
Speaker 1: Oh no, folks, he always spoke so probably folks always
Speaker 1: folking us, folks. Folks sold themselves as a peace candidate.
Speaker 1: As soon as that piece of crap got into office,
Speaker 1: the Afghan troop surge. I want that guy, Kadaffi. Oh no,
Speaker 1: don't say it like that. Kadaffi has to go. Assad
Speaker 1: has to go. I'm mentioning these little gutless little clowns
Speaker 1: that loved war, that couldn't fight their way out of
Speaker 1: a paper bag. You call these guys out man to man.
Speaker 1: They don't know whether to episs, are shit they vote?
Speaker 3: Don't don't talk to me like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, war mongering, little gutless boys. But there's a man
Speaker 1: that actually fought. His name was George Washington across to Delaware.
Speaker 1: This is his farewell address.
Speaker 3: Part of it.
Speaker 1: It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent
Speaker 1: alliances with any portion of the foreign world, observe good
Speaker 1: faith and justice toward all nations, cultivate peace and harmony
Speaker 1: with all the nation which indulges toward another. An habitual
Speaker 1: hatred or in habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave.
Speaker 3: It is a slave to.
Speaker 1: Its animosity or to its affection, either of which is
Speaker 1: sufficient to lead it astray from its duties and interests.
Speaker 3: It goes on.
Speaker 1: Basically, he goes on to say, this crap has been
Speaker 1: going on for thousands and thousands of years. We're not
Speaker 1: going to fix it, and it's none of our business.
Speaker 1: We need to protect America. We need to build America
Speaker 1: and not get involved in any foreign entanglements.
Speaker 3: And now these gutless little clowns.
Speaker 1: Oh, and I love these guys, all dressed up in
Speaker 1: their military drag with their little boy scout little things
Speaker 1: that they got their rewards. You know, well you're talking
Speaker 1: to over here? Who you Oh, you're an isolationist? What isolationist?
Speaker 3: I believe in the founding fathers. And that's why I bought.
Speaker 1: I owned three pre revolutionary warstone buildings on the most
Speaker 1: historic four corners in America in Kingston, New York, seventeen
Speaker 1: fifty fronts, Rogan House, seventeen sixty three, Doctor Jensen House,
Speaker 1: and the seventeen seventy four Academy.
Speaker 3: When first public schools. This is the third Dutch settlement here.
Speaker 1: I bought these because the Sieds of Democracy was selling
Speaker 1: here the constitution that was written for Kingston for New
Speaker 1: York State when Kingston was the capital before they British
Speaker 1: burnt it down after the Battle of Saratoga.
Speaker 3: I went to jewelry.
Speaker 1: Do you this is with the guy who put the
Speaker 1: thing on the head. He said, you see that picture
Speaker 1: on my shoulder, that's John Jay. John Jay was a
Speaker 1: judge here and over seventy percent of the constitution was
Speaker 1: written for New York State.
Speaker 3: Is America's constitution.
Speaker 1: I bought these buildings and I launched Occupy Peace because,
Speaker 1: as I say, I'm only me because I'm monopoly Tano.
Speaker 1: Born in the Bronx, born to be free. If I
Speaker 1: was born in at the Villa Pina Vika Quins, that
Speaker 1: wouldn't be me. I love this country and that's why
Speaker 1: I launched Occupy Peace. I was looking to leave it
Speaker 1: one time. I said, I'm not going to go love
Speaker 1: it to leave it.
Speaker 3: No, you leave it. Don't you tell me what to do.
Speaker 1: And I've been in the political system. I was assistant
Speaker 1: to the Treasury Secretary of the assistant to the Secretary
Speaker 1: of the New York State Senate is a picture of
Speaker 1: me picking up Ronald in a Chicago hilt in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy six, two days before he's running against Jerold Ford.
Speaker 1: Putting on a brunch for sixteen of our boarded directors.
Speaker 1: You know, one after another. I've been on the other side.
Speaker 3: It's a freak show.
Speaker 1: Gutless, little arrogant, arrogant morons telling us what to do.
Speaker 1: It's up to be the people. They're only public servants. No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm the politician. I'll tell you what to do. Get
Speaker 1: back in your house, close down your business, stand six
Speaker 1: feet apart because the wind blows exactly in straight lines
Speaker 1: and sixth seat wind doesn't take it anywhere. And put
Speaker 1: on that mask when.
Speaker 3: You go into that airplane or I'll throw you off.
Speaker 1: But when you're eating and drinking, you take it off
Speaker 1: because COVID knows when you're eating and drinking.
Speaker 3: All right. When I was a.
Speaker 1: Little kid, they had us hiding under a desk in
Speaker 1: case an Adam bomb went off. And then when I
Speaker 1: was in high school, we had to stand up the
Speaker 1: wall with our way hands behind it, and they said,
Speaker 1: if it's see a flash, don't look at it. If
Speaker 1: I see a flash, I'll be dust. You got morons
Speaker 1: in shade scubi.
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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier sort of how media has been taken over
Speaker 2: by you know, a few, a few people, and then
Speaker 2: I kind of threw out quickly, I want to I
Speaker 2: want to circle back to that technology has sort of
Speaker 2: changed that because now with the Internet, we have you know,
Speaker 2: independent news now and we have you know, we're in
Speaker 2: a day and age where Tucker Carlson gets more views
Speaker 2: than the entire media complex, you know, combined. So does
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan as well, you know, Russell Brand, and there's
Speaker 2: tons of those people, which is obviously a problem for
Speaker 2: the establishment. And so what we're seeing now, which is
Speaker 2: super alarming and disturbing to me, is this massive push
Speaker 2: for global censorship and it's coming on really strong and
Speaker 2: we're seeing it you know, Ireland, the UK, Brazil, very
Speaker 2: very scary. But what's even more scary is I mean
Speaker 2: Tim Walls Kamala's running meet is talking about how you
Speaker 2: shouldn't have the right to say whatever you want. We say,
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton on the news just the last couple of
Speaker 2: days talking about how they should prosecute misinformation, and in
Speaker 2: that same conversation, as she's talking about prosecuting disinformation, she's
Speaker 2: giving disinformation, citing the Russia Russia Gate, which she falsely
Speaker 2: proclaimed as real information. And so this propaganda, the push
Speaker 2: the media propaganda which you're talking about, on top of
Speaker 2: the censorship right there. Media propaganda and censorship at the
Speaker 2: same time is a big problem. And we're being told
Speaker 2: that they have to do this to save democracy when
Speaker 2: they're threatening democracy at the right time. So what do
Speaker 2: you see on the trend of this censorship, And hopefully
Speaker 2: you got some good news for me, because this seems
Speaker 2: to be the single biggest problem we're facing today. In
Speaker 2: my opinion, it's gonna get worse. Again, that's not what
Speaker 2: I wanted.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 1: Look, we're during the COVID War. Look during the COVID War,
Speaker 1: if you didn't believe in the COVID jeb you know
Speaker 1: you're a jerk. Look at all the little clown boys
Speaker 1: and clown girls they called celebrities selling the crap, and
Speaker 1: you were attacked if you didn't believe it. I put
Speaker 1: on a piece. I had a rally over here when
Speaker 1: everything was locked down. I said, little Andy Cromo, come
Speaker 1: over here and stop me. I'm one of the most hated.
Speaker 3: Guys up here. Oh you didn't get a vaccination.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna get a you know, gene therapy warped,
Speaker 1: first ever operation warp speed thing that they invented. People
Speaker 1: swallowed the crap they're gonna I'm telling you, they're gonna
Speaker 1: take more and more of our rights away from us.
Speaker 1: They talk about it, then they do it.
Speaker 3: And look at what goes on too.
Speaker 1: You've seen all the data coming out how how uh
Speaker 1: uh Facebook or Metal with ere you call themselves now
Speaker 1: bowed down and all of the rest of them twittered,
Speaker 1: bowed down to what the government wanted them to do.
Speaker 1: During the COVID War. It's it's we've lost our freedom
Speaker 1: on so many different fronts. I do a podcast every
Speaker 1: day with every every day, every Wednesday with Judge Napolitano.
Speaker 1: This guy knows more about the Constitution, the Bill of
Speaker 1: Rights than anybody that I know. And it's week after
Speaker 1: week the loss of our liberty and freedom. It's a crime, syndicate.
Speaker 1: And again, Hillary Clinton, what did many mouse say, why
Speaker 1: the hell would I believe anything spewing out of that
Speaker 1: craphead's mouth.
Speaker 3: Oh don't you know who I am?
Speaker 1: I was the first lady, A little jerky husband of
Speaker 1: us nothing, a little boy of nothing. It's one little
Speaker 1: nothing telling us what to do them. The Biden administration
Speaker 1: was going to put that whole misinformation team in. It's
Speaker 1: not misinformation, it is you don't believe the government lies.
Speaker 1: You have no right to think for yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they came up with a new two. It wasn't
Speaker 2: just misinformation now, it's also what they call malinformation, and
Speaker 2: malinformation is what they consider to be information. They don't like.
Speaker 2: It's bad malinformation, bad information because it could go against
Speaker 2: the interest of what the government has. So they can't
Speaker 2: say it's miss it's not wrong, it's not this, but
Speaker 2: it's mal it's bad. And that's a scary precedent right there.
Speaker 2: But we are seeing back to the trend, right, I'm
Speaker 2: looking for the trend. I'm looking for a point where
Speaker 2: maybe the pendulum is starting to swing back, maybe the
Speaker 2: optimist right. We do see Elon Musk standing in the
Speaker 2: face of sort of the world censorship complex, if you will,
Speaker 2: and maybe just maybe we're seeing maybe Zuckerberg, go will shoot.
Speaker 2: If Musk can do that, maybe I could stand up
Speaker 2: against them a little bit. Do you think maybe we're
Speaker 2: starting to see a little bit of pushback, maybe enough
Speaker 2: people to sort of start swinging this back the other way.
Speaker 3: Not at all, No, not at all. See it getting
Speaker 3: much worse.
Speaker 1: And again, think about what you just said with Zuckerberg,
Speaker 1: with Gates, why should they have any power of war?
Speaker 3: How about we the people? How about we the people?
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, oh, I was so shocked. It
Speaker 3: took me. It took me weeks.
Speaker 1: The pain was so severe that a tycoon yachts sunk
Speaker 1: off the coast of Italy. If your friend's boat sings,
Speaker 1: who gives a damn? Oh no, but he was a tycoon,
Speaker 1: that is yachts sak twelve days in the news, front
Speaker 1: page pictures on a front page of the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 1: Why do the bigs control every damn thing that we
Speaker 1: have in our lives?
Speaker 3: Hey, but they don't give a penny for peace?
Speaker 1: Could you imagine if the billionaires gave a billion dollars
Speaker 1: to our occupy peace movement, we got peace tomorrow. No no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: all right, here here, you're a Warren Buffett. I tell
Speaker 1: you have six pre revolutionary restoring buildings. I used to
Speaker 1: rent one of them out to his son. The Novo
Speaker 1: Foundation never gave me a penny, not a penny for
Speaker 1: one of our peace movements, and he was there for
Speaker 1: one of them when I had Ralph Nadier. Not a
Speaker 1: penny for peace. Why do I give a damn when
Speaker 1: I look at that sucker berg? Who the hell are
Speaker 1: they to tell us what to do. It's up to
Speaker 1: the people. It's up to the people to unite and
Speaker 1: to have the fight in them. That again, I grew
Speaker 1: up during a hippie time. This isn't a hippie time.
Speaker 1: This isn't about roses and this a piece.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, this is no. I want peace.
Speaker 1: Don't you tell steal my money, give it to the
Speaker 1: military industrial complex to kill people over across invations around
Speaker 1: the world, when my country is rotting in front.
Speaker 3: Of my eye.
Speaker 1: The roads are shit, the shit, Hey how about am crap?
Speaker 1: Look at the rail system we got take go to
Speaker 1: New York, take the subway. SI night in Calcutta, the
Speaker 1: bridges are collapsing everywhere. It's up to the people. It's
Speaker 1: up to the people. That's what this country was founded upon.
Speaker 3: We the people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, always the people. I put up a tweet yesterday
Speaker 2: and I said, right now somewhere an entrepreneur is coming
Speaker 2: up thinking of a way to solve one of your
Speaker 2: pains or problems. Also, right now a government regulators thinking
Speaker 2: about some new rule of regulation that will prevent him
Speaker 2: from doing that. And so it's really coming down to
Speaker 2: this race as we the people, we the builders, we
Speaker 2: the entrepreneurs. Can we move fast enough? Can we move
Speaker 2: fast or than what the government regulators are doing to
Speaker 2: try to come and stop and prevent that. I want
Speaker 2: to move into this next last topic and we'll wrap
Speaker 2: this up here. Back to the trends. We have an
Speaker 2: election cycle. We're an election cycle right now. We have
Speaker 2: a presidential election cycle election coming up. What I see
Speaker 2: as a trend is that this election seems to be
Speaker 2: like the most important election we've ever had. But that
Speaker 2: was also said the last election and the one before,
Speaker 2: and the one before and the one before. It seems
Speaker 2: like though, because the government continues to get bigger, bigger, bigger,
Speaker 2: Because in that ship gets worse, worse, worse, each one
Speaker 2: does become more important. So do you see this one
Speaker 2: as that important today based off of this. You know
Speaker 2: long time that you've been sort of looking at this.
Speaker 2: Is it really escalating or have we been in worse
Speaker 2: times before?
Speaker 1: This is the worst time I believe in the history
Speaker 1: of the world. I suggest people consider reading John F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy's speech to graduating students at American University in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty three June. It was all about peace, and he
Speaker 1: goes on he said we shouldn't hate the people in
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. He said they suffered more than anybody
Speaker 1: else in World War Two. He goes on to say
Speaker 1: some twenty million of them killed, and they lost their
Speaker 1: land the equivalent, and their farms and factories the equivalent
Speaker 1: and homes of Chicago to.
Speaker 3: The East coast.
Speaker 1: He said, if we go to nuclear war with them,
Speaker 1: life on Earth will be destroyed in twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: He ends it by saying America will never go to
Speaker 1: war again. That was in June, July, August, September, October, November, Jack,
Speaker 1: you had dead. And by the way, I have a
Speaker 1: photograph of me and John Connolly. John Connolly was the
Speaker 1: governor of Texas that took the bullet in the back.
Speaker 1: I have a photo of meet him and his wife
Speaker 1: Nelly in front of the book depository. Actually has the
Speaker 1: side of the book depository where the shot came from,
Speaker 1: in the side of the book depository.
Speaker 3: He wanted to meet me.
Speaker 1: It was his first time back since the assassination nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety two. Going back, this is the worst time. And
Speaker 1: by the way, we're going back into the Anato hotel.
Speaker 1: He said, I read your book and that's why he
Speaker 1: wanted to meet me. Trend tracking and he said that
Speaker 1: I know your heart's in the right place. He said,
Speaker 1: you don't have a clue what's going on, because if
Speaker 1: you did it, and he said in neither do the
Speaker 1: American people, because if they did, there be a revolution
Speaker 1: in this country.
Speaker 3: This is nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1: Oh. By the way, he was the Democratic governor of
Speaker 1: Texas when he took the bullet in the back. He
Speaker 1: became the Republican Treasury secretary on the Nixon that took
Speaker 1: us off the gold standard. So going back to this
Speaker 1: being the most important election, I just said to you
Speaker 1: what Kennedy said in nineteen sixty three that if we
Speaker 1: go to war with the Soviet Union, life on earth
Speaker 1: will be destroyed.
Speaker 3: In twenty four hours. Life on Earth now will be
Speaker 3: destroyed in the blink of an eye.
Speaker 1: Look what just happened with that pager thing that the
Speaker 1: Israelis did to Lebanon. I was a keynote speaker at
Speaker 1: the Virginia Military Institute in two thousand and in my
Speaker 1: book Trends two thousand, I wrote about new millennium warfare,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're facing. We're facing things that we
Speaker 1: can't even imagine, cannot even imagine. And again going back
Speaker 1: to Hillary Clinton, look at her on that interview after
Speaker 1: they killed Kadafi and the interviewer asked her, how did
Speaker 1: you feel we came.
Speaker 3: We saw he died. How about Madaline? Not all that bright.
Speaker 1: When asked on sixty minutes under the Clinton administration when
Speaker 1: she was United States Ambassador to the UN. Unless he
Speaker 1: stall asks her, are the lives of five hundred thousand
Speaker 1: Iraqi children under the age of five that have died
Speaker 1: because of what Bill Clinton has done to Iraq?
Speaker 3: Worth the price? And she said, yes it is.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this because you got maniacs in charge. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is the most important election of our lifetime, because
Speaker 1: we are on the brink of nuclear annihilation.
Speaker 3: I want to read you something.
Speaker 1: This is from Pope Francis, or I would call Pope Adope.
Speaker 1: Pope Francis tells us Catholics, you ready to choose lesser
Speaker 1: of evil in the coming election. Not voting is ugly,
Speaker 1: he said, it's not good. You must vote. You must
Speaker 1: choose the lesser evil. Who is the lesser evil? The
Speaker 1: lady or that gentleman, I don't know? Lesser of in evil? Hey,
Speaker 1: got son? How about the better of a good? How
Speaker 1: about the greater of the greatest?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, a lesser of two? Hey, hey, got son?
Speaker 1: What christ are you talking about that believes in evil?
Speaker 1: Who you're talking to? I'll tell you I'm talking to
Speaker 1: I'm talking to morons and swallow my crap. Hey, where
Speaker 1: are are you Catholic priests out there? How come you're
Speaker 1: not out there for peace? Hey?
Speaker 3: What do all you? Quake has dyed on earthquake and
Speaker 3: not out there for peace? Oh? The seventh day? Veath
Speaker 3: is waiting for the eighth day?
Speaker 1: Where are all the religions? No, no vote for an evil.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a lesser to evil. As
Speaker 1: I say, almost pregnant.
Speaker 2: When you think about what you said. I was just
Speaker 2: looking it up, this commitments speed that you're talking about
Speaker 2: that John F. Kennedy, American University, June tenth, nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 2: And it was titled a Strategy of Peace. And when
Speaker 2: you think about just the juxtaposition of that versus where
Speaker 2: we're at today, and so to your point, I mean,
Speaker 2: the stakes had never been higher, but they have because
Speaker 2: back then we were on the brink of nuclear war
Speaker 2: as well. But the difference of the two positions, which
Speaker 2: was one talking it down, like jfk Hey, we need peace,
Speaker 2: We need to reel this in realize that the Russian
Speaker 2: people are not our enemy. We have disagreement with the governments,
Speaker 2: but they're not our enemy. We should we should back
Speaker 2: this down versus today unfortunately, to the point they're making
Speaker 2: the Kamala Biden administration with Hillary Clinton the other Neocon
Speaker 2: warmongerers in there, they just want to continue pushing forward.
Speaker 2: They want to continue poking the bear, so to speak, right,
Speaker 2: the Russian bear. And so really both both times nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty three, today the world is on the brink of
Speaker 2: nuclear war. But the difference in the leadership and the
Speaker 2: attitude one wanting to talk it down, one wanting to
Speaker 2: escalate it. And I think that really encapsulates exactly what
Speaker 2: you're talking about and really how important this election is,
Speaker 2: because to your point, we are at the brink of
Speaker 2: this catastrophic situation, is catastrophic war, and one side wants
Speaker 2: to take us deeper into it, and the other side
Speaker 2: Trump has shown four years that he is good at
Speaker 2: removing that threat of war. So I think that really
Speaker 2: brings the risk of what we're facing here to the forefront.
Speaker 2: I want to wrap this up, Gerald, I mean, man,
Speaker 2: you've given us so much information, so much food for thought,
Speaker 2: and unfortunately a lot of scary food for thought. But
Speaker 2: what do you want to say, like in closing, just
Speaker 2: to everybody listening that may maybe is a little bit
Speaker 2: scared by this. I mean, what should they be thinking
Speaker 2: doing to sort of prepare and really protect themselves and
Speaker 2: their family during this time?
Speaker 1: Well, you know one of my gcs three geez guns
Speaker 1: Golden a ghetto way plan. The most important thing really,
Speaker 1: by the way, to me, what could change it? A
Speaker 1: renaissance and what followed the Black Plague. The renaissance the
Speaker 1: people realized they were killing themselves, who were destroying themselves. Ah,
Speaker 1: the ramana Al antique and the manner of the Romans
Speaker 1: and the ancients to describe the quality of their work.
Speaker 3: We need a renaissance.
Speaker 1: And to me, for everybody, the most important thing is
Speaker 1: to get in the best shape you can physically, emotionally
Speaker 1: and spiritually.
Speaker 3: Like you just like right now. You know, you saw
Speaker 3: how angry I am.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you could read Saint Thomas Aquinas
Speaker 1: who says that anybody that is not angry when it's
Speaker 1: morally justifiable to be angry, is immorl Yeah, and those
Speaker 1: who are not angry, you know, when.
Speaker 3: It is justifiable, when it's justifiable.
Speaker 1: To be angry, they are immoral. So, yeah, I'm angry,
Speaker 1: but I also surround myself with beauty. I try to
Speaker 1: stay in the best shape that I can. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the books I worked on, by the way,
Speaker 1: way back when in the eighties was called Natural Healing
Speaker 1: as the first book I was a big It was
Speaker 1: a Warner book. And so people need to be in
Speaker 1: the best shape they can in every way they can,
Speaker 1: because this way they're thinking clearer.
Speaker 3: And their spirit rises.
Speaker 1: And when the spirit rises high enough, we can unite
Speaker 1: under an umbrella of we the people.
Speaker 3: And as I say, united. We stand.
Speaker 1: Divided, we die, and we are in a very divisive
Speaker 1: time right now, and we have to unite for peace.
Speaker 1: And that's why I launched Occupy Peace over a decade ago.
Speaker 1: I you know, it's my business to you know, see
Speaker 1: what's evolving in this you know, I'm gonna make this
Speaker 1: real quick.
Speaker 3: I was the I was the number two guy running a.
Speaker 1: Major trade association at thirty years old, living between DC
Speaker 1: and Chicago, and I was killing environmental legislation at the
Speaker 1: height of environmental movement in the nineteen seventies. And I
Speaker 1: started to grow up after I, you know, and when
Speaker 1: I moved up here, I moved to Rhinebeck. Went back
Speaker 1: in those days, nobody.
Speaker 3: Even heard of the place, and now it's like the
Speaker 3: Hamptons of the North in New York.
Speaker 2: I was a.
Speaker 1: Recluse for four years because I started to see the
Speaker 1: future evolve and it started breaking my heart. And it's
Speaker 1: devolved in front of our rimes. And so I'm doing
Speaker 1: everything I can. And again, I you know, I had
Speaker 1: a perfect life. Pull a lot of shit in my way, kidding.
Speaker 1: I just told you he's killed environmental legislation. But I
Speaker 1: grew up, and that's what I'm saying, get in the
Speaker 1: best shape you can. I've never worked harder in my life.
Speaker 1: You see the magazine, what is it average? About one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two hundred pages a week, no adds.
Speaker 1: So you got to do the best you can because
Speaker 1: they're all in this together.
Speaker 3: It's not about me or you.
Speaker 1: But and again, I surround myself with beauty. I have
Speaker 1: art everywhere, and art is to me. It's a wonderful
Speaker 1: French girlfriend of mine. My reps said, art is the
Speaker 1: way of finding the true meaning of the human spirit,
Speaker 1: and we have to bring that back.
Speaker 3: We need a renaissance.
Speaker 1: We need peace and love and caring and what used
Speaker 1: to be life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great way to end that, you know.
Speaker 2: And I just want to just add on to what
Speaker 2: you're saying. I mean, what you're saying is do the
Speaker 2: best that you can. And he goes onto something I've
Speaker 2: been kind of saying, which is like we if we're
Speaker 2: not we're selfish, Like we should be learning new skills
Speaker 2: and doing new things so we can help more people.
Speaker 2: And we really we can lead by that example. And
Speaker 2: that's one of the things that communism hates right. They
Speaker 2: want everyone to live in this lie. They don't want
Speaker 2: people living their best life because then it encourages other
Speaker 2: people to do that. But that's exactly what we should
Speaker 2: be doing, not telling people. That's what they do. They
Speaker 2: tell you what to do. We want to lead by example.
Speaker 2: So yeah, be the best person that you can be.
Speaker 2: Be in the best shape you can be, mentally, physically, spiritually,
Speaker 2: to your point, and then hopefully that influences, not controls
Speaker 2: or forces, but influences other people to then also rise
Speaker 2: up and be better versions of themselves. We lead by example.
Speaker 2: That's how America became great. Leading by example. We have
Speaker 2: to do that all, one by one. Gerald, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for joining me today. The Trends Journal, as
Speaker 2: he said, it's like one hundred pages of information he
Speaker 2: writes it. I mean, the amount of effort he puts
Speaker 2: into this is amazing. We're going to link to that
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Speaker 2: we're gona ahead and sign it off.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me, and thank you so
Speaker 1: much for what you do. I appreciate it very very much.
Speaker 1: As I said, it's an honor for me to be
Speaker 1: on
Speaker 2: With you, always a pleasure,