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Speaker 2: then you want to listen to this interview with Gerald Silente,

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Speaker 2: Do you think maybe we're starting to see a little

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Speaker 2: All right, Gerald Cialente Trends Journal, the author of Trends

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Speaker 2: Journal for decades, something that i've recently I turned in

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Speaker 1: But of course they could lie about it, like you're

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Speaker 2: And no one's ever heard that number. Lead the Institute

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Speaker 1: This thing's going down. It's artificially propped up. And you

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Speaker 3: Again, go back to the Great Depression. They couldn't get

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Speaker 1: How the majority of the people are suffering. I mean,

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Speaker 1: did away with the Glass Stiegel Act, brought China into

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Speaker 1: the World Trade Organization. Every time he got caught with

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Speaker 1: his pants down, his bombs away over bag Dad, the

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Speaker 1: Yugoslav War. One thing after another, this guy unto me

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Speaker 1: it changed again. I'm up in upstate New York. There

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Speaker 1: used to be factories up here, Clinton, I mean Kingston

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Speaker 1: Gant Factory, the Church Factory used to be here.

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Speaker 3: There's one factory after another. They're all gone. It all

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Speaker 3: started to happen.

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Speaker 1: Going down really quick after they brought NAFTA and then

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Speaker 1: China into the World Trade Organization. Why should you pay

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Speaker 1: the people living wages when you could pay slave wages

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Speaker 1: and make more on your product.

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Speaker 2: Well, it certainly helped offset the inflation that they inflicted

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Speaker 2: under the American people. At least they could buy cheaper goods,

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Speaker 2: but at the rate of then obviously losing their jobs.

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't a good trade. So we're in this

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Speaker 2: situation now where it's inescapable. I think we both agree

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Speaker 2: on that the timeframe of when it takes to get

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Speaker 2: that love diminishing returns to kick in is unknowable. I

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Speaker 2: think it goes on longer than most people think, but

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Speaker 2: to the point that that you typically make Then moving

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Speaker 2: on to the sort of the next topic is that

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Speaker 2: you always say, then they take you to war, and

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Speaker 2: so you're mentioning obviously now sort of every time these

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Speaker 2: things went every time one of these new policies went through,

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Speaker 2: it was bombs over Baghdad, so to speak. And so

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Speaker 2: now we're moving into war, not just one war, multiple

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Speaker 2: wars at the same time. And for you, someone who's

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Speaker 2: been reporting the trends now for since the eighties. In

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Speaker 2: the eighties we were still under the Cold War, we

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Speaker 2: were still in an arms race. I feel like, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not old enough to remember, so I'm asking you,

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're closer to potential nuclear war today

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Speaker 2: than we've ever been that I can remember. What's your

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Speaker 2: take on that? And are we going to be able

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Speaker 2: to get out of this alive?

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Speaker 1: The cover of the Trends Journal magazine on February twenty second,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, two days before the Russian invasion over

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Speaker 1: there Ukraine, from COVID War to Ukraine War to World War.

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Speaker 3: World War III has already d begun.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you totally. We are on the verge

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Speaker 1: of nuclear annihilation. We have crazy people running a country

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Speaker 1: near you. I said, what's your favorite war? I like

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Speaker 1: the Peloponnesian War.

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Speaker 3: It was lovely. I don't know. The War of Roses

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Speaker 3: was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the one hundred Year War was just so delightful.

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite crusade? Well, I like the eighth one

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Speaker 1: better than the third one. You got crazy people running

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Speaker 1: the show. You know, there's this is George Washington. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is a real man, not like these little gutless boys,

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Speaker 1: every one of them Draft dodgers, little Billy Clinton, Biden

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Speaker 1: five draft deferments, Trump four draft deferments, and we're on.

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Speaker 3: The same age.

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Speaker 1: And I got I did everything I could, everything, everything

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Speaker 1: I could not to get into Vietnam War. And I

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Speaker 1: want to make this one thousand percent clear. I was

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Speaker 1: stupid enough as a young kid to believe the crap

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Speaker 1: that they were selling that if we don't stop those

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Speaker 1: Commies in Vietnam, the dominoes are going to keep falling,

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Speaker 1: and before you know it, they'll cross all of Asia

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Speaker 1: and hit the shores of California. I even voted for

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Speaker 1: Richard Nixon in nineteen sixty eight. I did everything I

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Speaker 1: could to beat the draft because I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: get my brains blown out. Moving forward, talking about George Washington,

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Speaker 1: and I talked about these little gutless little boys like Obama,

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Speaker 1: the nobel piece of crap prize winner, a little slime.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, folks, he always spoke so probably folks always

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Speaker 1: folking us, folks. Folks sold themselves as a peace candidate.

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Speaker 1: As soon as that piece of crap got into office,

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Speaker 1: the Afghan troop surge. I want that guy, Kadaffi. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: don't say it like that. Kadaffi has to go. Assad

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Speaker 1: has to go. I'm mentioning these little gutless little clowns

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Speaker 1: that loved war, that couldn't fight their way out of

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Speaker 1: a paper bag. You call these guys out man to man.

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Speaker 1: They don't know whether to episs, are shit they vote?

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Speaker 3: Don't don't talk to me like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, war mongering, little gutless boys. But there's a man

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Speaker 1: that actually fought. His name was George Washington across to Delaware.

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Speaker 1: This is his farewell address.

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Speaker 3: Part of it.

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Speaker 1: It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent

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Speaker 1: alliances with any portion of the foreign world, observe good

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Speaker 1: faith and justice toward all nations, cultivate peace and harmony

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Speaker 1: with all the nation which indulges toward another. An habitual

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Speaker 1: hatred or in habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave.

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Speaker 3: It is a slave to.

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Speaker 1: Its animosity or to its affection, either of which is

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Speaker 1: sufficient to lead it astray from its duties and interests.

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Speaker 3: It goes on.

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Speaker 1: Basically, he goes on to say, this crap has been

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Speaker 1: going on for thousands and thousands of years. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to fix it, and it's none of our business.

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Speaker 1: We need to protect America. We need to build America

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Speaker 1: and not get involved in any foreign entanglements.

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Speaker 3: And now these gutless little clowns.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and I love these guys, all dressed up in

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Speaker 1: their military drag with their little boy scout little things

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Speaker 1: that they got their rewards. You know, well you're talking

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Speaker 1: to over here? Who you Oh, you're an isolationist? What isolationist?

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Speaker 3: I believe in the founding fathers. And that's why I bought.

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Speaker 1: I owned three pre revolutionary warstone buildings on the most

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Speaker 1: historic four corners in America in Kingston, New York, seventeen

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Speaker 1: fifty fronts, Rogan House, seventeen sixty three, Doctor Jensen House,

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Speaker 1: and the seventeen seventy four Academy.

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Speaker 3: When first public schools. This is the third Dutch settlement here.

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Speaker 1: I bought these because the Sieds of Democracy was selling

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Speaker 1: here the constitution that was written for Kingston for New

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Speaker 1: York State when Kingston was the capital before they British

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Speaker 1: burnt it down after the Battle of Saratoga.

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Speaker 3: I went to jewelry.

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Speaker 1: Do you this is with the guy who put the

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Speaker 1: thing on the head. He said, you see that picture

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Speaker 1: on my shoulder, that's John Jay. John Jay was a

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Speaker 1: judge here and over seventy percent of the constitution was

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Speaker 1: written for New York State.

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Speaker 3: Is America's constitution.

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Speaker 1: I bought these buildings and I launched Occupy Peace because,

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Speaker 1: as I say, I'm only me because I'm monopoly Tano.

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Speaker 1: Born in the Bronx, born to be free. If I

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Speaker 1: was born in at the Villa Pina Vika Quins, that

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be me. I love this country and that's why

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Speaker 1: I launched Occupy Peace. I was looking to leave it

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Speaker 1: one time. I said, I'm not going to go love

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Speaker 1: it to leave it.

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Speaker 3: No, you leave it. Don't you tell me what to do.

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Speaker 1: And I've been in the political system. I was assistant

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Speaker 1: to the Treasury Secretary of the assistant to the Secretary

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Speaker 1: of the New York State Senate is a picture of

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Speaker 1: me picking up Ronald in a Chicago hilt in nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy six, two days before he's running against Jerold Ford.

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Speaker 1: Putting on a brunch for sixteen of our boarded directors.

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Speaker 1: You know, one after another. I've been on the other side.

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Speaker 3: It's a freak show.

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Speaker 1: Gutless, little arrogant, arrogant morons telling us what to do.

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Speaker 1: It's up to be the people. They're only public servants. No, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm the politician. I'll tell you what to do. Get

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Speaker 1: back in your house, close down your business, stand six

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Speaker 1: feet apart because the wind blows exactly in straight lines

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Speaker 1: and sixth seat wind doesn't take it anywhere. And put

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Speaker 1: on that mask when.

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Speaker 3: You go into that airplane or I'll throw you off.

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Speaker 1: But when you're eating and drinking, you take it off

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Speaker 1: because COVID knows when you're eating and drinking.

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Speaker 3: All right. When I was a.

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Speaker 1: Little kid, they had us hiding under a desk in

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Speaker 1: case an Adam bomb went off. And then when I

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Speaker 1: was in high school, we had to stand up the

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Speaker 1: wall with our way hands behind it, and they said,

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Speaker 1: if it's see a flash, don't look at it. If

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Speaker 1: I see a flash, I'll be dust. You got morons

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Speaker 1: in shade scubi.

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Speaker 2: future of the financial system, I want to make sure

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Speaker 2: millions of dollars in today's dollars, and so I've learned

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Speaker 2: your bitcoin on the phone. I've lost it that way

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Speaker 2: link down below. Let's go back into the video you

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Speaker 2: mentioned earlier sort of how media has been taken over

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Speaker 2: by you know, a few, a few people, and then

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Speaker 2: I kind of threw out quickly, I want to I

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Speaker 2: want to circle back to that technology has sort of

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Speaker 2: changed that because now with the Internet, we have you know,

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Speaker 2: independent news now and we have you know, we're in

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Speaker 2: a day and age where Tucker Carlson gets more views

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Speaker 2: than the entire media complex, you know, combined. So does

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Speaker 2: Joe Rogan as well, you know, Russell Brand, and there's

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Speaker 2: tons of those people, which is obviously a problem for

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Speaker 2: the establishment. And so what we're seeing now, which is

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Speaker 2: super alarming and disturbing to me, is this massive push

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Speaker 2: for global censorship and it's coming on really strong and

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Speaker 2: we're seeing it you know, Ireland, the UK, Brazil, very

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Speaker 2: very scary. But what's even more scary is I mean

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Speaker 2: Tim Walls Kamala's running meet is talking about how you

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have the right to say whatever you want. We say,

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Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton on the news just the last couple of

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Speaker 2: days talking about how they should prosecute misinformation, and in

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Speaker 2: that same conversation, as she's talking about prosecuting disinformation, she's

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Speaker 2: giving disinformation, citing the Russia Russia Gate, which she falsely

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Speaker 2: proclaimed as real information. And so this propaganda, the push

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Speaker 2: the media propaganda which you're talking about, on top of

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Speaker 2: the censorship right there. Media propaganda and censorship at the

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Speaker 2: same time is a big problem. And we're being told

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Speaker 2: that they have to do this to save democracy when

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Speaker 2: they're threatening democracy at the right time. So what do

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Speaker 2: you see on the trend of this censorship, And hopefully

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Speaker 2: you got some good news for me, because this seems

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Speaker 2: to be the single biggest problem we're facing today. In

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Speaker 2: my opinion, it's gonna get worse. Again, that's not what

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Speaker 2: I wanted.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: Look, we're during the COVID War. Look during the COVID War,

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Speaker 1: if you didn't believe in the COVID jeb you know

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Speaker 1: you're a jerk. Look at all the little clown boys

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Speaker 1: and clown girls they called celebrities selling the crap, and

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Speaker 1: you were attacked if you didn't believe it. I put

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Speaker 1: on a piece. I had a rally over here when

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Speaker 1: everything was locked down. I said, little Andy Cromo, come

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Speaker 1: over here and stop me. I'm one of the most hated.

655
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Speaker 3: Guys up here. Oh you didn't get a vaccination.

656
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: No, I'm not gonna get a you know, gene therapy warped,

657
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: first ever operation warp speed thing that they invented. People

658
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: swallowed the crap they're gonna I'm telling you, they're gonna

659
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: take more and more of our rights away from us.

660
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: They talk about it, then they do it.

661
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: And look at what goes on too.

662
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Speaker 1: You've seen all the data coming out how how uh

663
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Speaker 1: uh Facebook or Metal with ere you call themselves now

664
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: bowed down and all of the rest of them twittered,

665
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: bowed down to what the government wanted them to do.

666
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Speaker 1: During the COVID War. It's it's we've lost our freedom

667
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: on so many different fronts. I do a podcast every

668
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: day with every every day, every Wednesday with Judge Napolitano.

669
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Speaker 1: This guy knows more about the Constitution, the Bill of

670
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Speaker 1: Rights than anybody that I know. And it's week after

671
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: week the loss of our liberty and freedom. It's a crime, syndicate.

672
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: And again, Hillary Clinton, what did many mouse say, why

673
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: the hell would I believe anything spewing out of that

674
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Speaker 1: craphead's mouth.

675
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Speaker 3: Oh don't you know who I am?

676
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Speaker 1: I was the first lady, A little jerky husband of

677
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: us nothing, a little boy of nothing. It's one little

678
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: nothing telling us what to do them. The Biden administration

679
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: was going to put that whole misinformation team in. It's

680
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: not misinformation, it is you don't believe the government lies.

681
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: You have no right to think for yourself.

682
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they came up with a new two. It wasn't

683
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: just misinformation now, it's also what they call malinformation, and

684
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: malinformation is what they consider to be information. They don't like.

685
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: It's bad malinformation, bad information because it could go against

686
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Speaker 2: the interest of what the government has. So they can't

687
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: say it's miss it's not wrong, it's not this, but

688
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: it's mal it's bad. And that's a scary precedent right there.

689
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: But we are seeing back to the trend, right, I'm

690
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: looking for the trend. I'm looking for a point where

691
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: maybe the pendulum is starting to swing back, maybe the

692
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: optimist right. We do see Elon Musk standing in the

693
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Speaker 2: face of sort of the world censorship complex, if you will,

694
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Speaker 2: and maybe just maybe we're seeing maybe Zuckerberg, go will shoot.

695
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Speaker 2: If Musk can do that, maybe I could stand up

696
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Speaker 2: against them a little bit. Do you think maybe we're

697
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Speaker 2: starting to see a little bit of pushback, maybe enough

698
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: people to sort of start swinging this back the other way.

699
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Speaker 3: Not at all, No, not at all. See it getting

700
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Speaker 3: much worse.

701
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Speaker 1: And again, think about what you just said with Zuckerberg,

702
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: with Gates, why should they have any power of war?

703
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: How about we the people? How about we the people?

704
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, oh, I was so shocked. It

705
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Speaker 3: took me. It took me weeks.

706
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Speaker 1: The pain was so severe that a tycoon yachts sunk

707
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: off the coast of Italy. If your friend's boat sings,

708
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: who gives a damn? Oh no, but he was a tycoon,

709
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: that is yachts sak twelve days in the news, front

710
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: page pictures on a front page of the Wall Street Journal.

711
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: Why do the bigs control every damn thing that we

712
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Speaker 1: have in our lives?

713
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: Hey, but they don't give a penny for peace?

714
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Speaker 1: Could you imagine if the billionaires gave a billion dollars

715
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: to our occupy peace movement, we got peace tomorrow. No no, no, no, no, no,

716
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Speaker 1: all right, here here, you're a Warren Buffett. I tell

717
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: you have six pre revolutionary restoring buildings. I used to

718
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: rent one of them out to his son. The Novo

719
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Speaker 1: Foundation never gave me a penny, not a penny for

720
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Speaker 1: one of our peace movements, and he was there for

721
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Speaker 1: one of them when I had Ralph Nadier. Not a

722
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Speaker 1: penny for peace. Why do I give a damn when

723
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: I look at that sucker berg? Who the hell are

724
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: they to tell us what to do. It's up to

725
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: the people. It's up to the people to unite and

726
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: to have the fight in them. That again, I grew

727
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: up during a hippie time. This isn't a hippie time.

728
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Speaker 1: This isn't about roses and this a piece.

729
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, this is no. I want peace.

730
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Speaker 1: Don't you tell steal my money, give it to the

731
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Speaker 1: military industrial complex to kill people over across invations around

732
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Speaker 1: the world, when my country is rotting in front.

733
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Speaker 3: Of my eye.

734
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: The roads are shit, the shit, Hey how about am crap?

735
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: Look at the rail system we got take go to

736
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: New York, take the subway. SI night in Calcutta, the

737
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: bridges are collapsing everywhere. It's up to the people. It's

738
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: up to the people. That's what this country was founded upon.

739
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: We the people.

740
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, always the people. I put up a tweet yesterday

741
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: and I said, right now somewhere an entrepreneur is coming

742
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: up thinking of a way to solve one of your

743
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: pains or problems. Also, right now a government regulators thinking

744
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: about some new rule of regulation that will prevent him

745
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Speaker 2: from doing that. And so it's really coming down to

746
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: this race as we the people, we the builders, we

747
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: the entrepreneurs. Can we move fast enough? Can we move

748
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: fast or than what the government regulators are doing to

749
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 2: try to come and stop and prevent that. I want

750
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: to move into this next last topic and we'll wrap

751
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: this up here. Back to the trends. We have an

752
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: election cycle. We're an election cycle right now. We have

753
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Speaker 2: a presidential election cycle election coming up. What I see

754
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: as a trend is that this election seems to be

755
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: like the most important election we've ever had. But that

756
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: was also said the last election and the one before,

757
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 2: and the one before and the one before. It seems

758
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: like though, because the government continues to get bigger, bigger, bigger,

759
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: Because in that ship gets worse, worse, worse, each one

760
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: does become more important. So do you see this one

761
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: as that important today based off of this. You know

762
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: long time that you've been sort of looking at this.

763
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: Is it really escalating or have we been in worse

764
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: times before?

765
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Speaker 1: This is the worst time I believe in the history

766
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: of the world. I suggest people consider reading John F.

767
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: Kennedy's speech to graduating students at American University in nineteen

768
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: sixty three June. It was all about peace, and he

769
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: goes on he said we shouldn't hate the people in

770
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. He said they suffered more than anybody

771
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: else in World War Two. He goes on to say

772
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: some twenty million of them killed, and they lost their

773
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: land the equivalent, and their farms and factories the equivalent

774
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: and homes of Chicago to.

775
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: The East coast.

776
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: He said, if we go to nuclear war with them,

777
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: life on Earth will be destroyed in twenty four hours.

778
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: He ends it by saying America will never go to

779
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: war again. That was in June, July, August, September, October, November, Jack,

780
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: you had dead. And by the way, I have a

781
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: photograph of me and John Connolly. John Connolly was the

782
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: governor of Texas that took the bullet in the back.

783
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: I have a photo of meet him and his wife

784
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Nelly in front of the book depository. Actually has the

785
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: side of the book depository where the shot came from,

786
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: in the side of the book depository.

787
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: He wanted to meet me.

788
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: It was his first time back since the assassination nineteen

789
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: ninety two. Going back, this is the worst time. And

790
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: by the way, we're going back into the Anato hotel.

791
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: He said, I read your book and that's why he

792
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: wanted to meet me. Trend tracking and he said that

793
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: I know your heart's in the right place. He said,

794
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: you don't have a clue what's going on, because if

795
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: you did it, and he said in neither do the

796
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: American people, because if they did, there be a revolution

797
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: in this country.

798
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: This is nineteen ninety two.

799
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Speaker 1: Oh. By the way, he was the Democratic governor of

800
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: Texas when he took the bullet in the back. He

801
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: became the Republican Treasury secretary on the Nixon that took

802
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: us off the gold standard. So going back to this

803
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: being the most important election, I just said to you

804
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: what Kennedy said in nineteen sixty three that if we

805
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: go to war with the Soviet Union, life on earth

806
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: will be destroyed.

807
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: In twenty four hours. Life on Earth now will be

808
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 3: destroyed in the blink of an eye.

809
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: Look what just happened with that pager thing that the

810
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: Israelis did to Lebanon. I was a keynote speaker at

811
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: the Virginia Military Institute in two thousand and in my

812
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: book Trends two thousand, I wrote about new millennium warfare,

813
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: and that's what we're facing. We're facing things that we

814
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: can't even imagine, cannot even imagine. And again going back

815
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: to Hillary Clinton, look at her on that interview after

816
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: they killed Kadafi and the interviewer asked her, how did

817
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: you feel we came.

818
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 3: We saw he died. How about Madaline? Not all that bright.

819
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: When asked on sixty minutes under the Clinton administration when

820
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: she was United States Ambassador to the UN. Unless he

821
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: stall asks her, are the lives of five hundred thousand

822
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: Iraqi children under the age of five that have died

823
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: because of what Bill Clinton has done to Iraq?

824
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: Worth the price? And she said, yes it is.

825
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying this because you got maniacs in charge. Yes,

826
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: this is the most important election of our lifetime, because

827
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: we are on the brink of nuclear annihilation.

828
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Speaker 3: I want to read you something.

829
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Speaker 1: This is from Pope Francis, or I would call Pope Adope.

830
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: Pope Francis tells us Catholics, you ready to choose lesser

831
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: of evil in the coming election. Not voting is ugly,

832
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: he said, it's not good. You must vote. You must

833
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: choose the lesser evil. Who is the lesser evil? The

834
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: lady or that gentleman, I don't know? Lesser of in evil? Hey,

835
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: got son? How about the better of a good? How

836
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: about the greater of the greatest?

837
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: No?

838
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: No, no, a lesser of two? Hey, hey, got son?

839
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: What christ are you talking about that believes in evil?

840
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: Who you're talking to? I'll tell you I'm talking to

841
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking to morons and swallow my crap. Hey, where

842
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: are are you Catholic priests out there? How come you're

843
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: not out there for peace? Hey?

844
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 3: What do all you? Quake has dyed on earthquake and

845
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 3: not out there for peace? Oh? The seventh day? Veath

846
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 3: is waiting for the eighth day?

847
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: Where are all the religions? No, no vote for an evil.

848
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a lesser to evil. As

849
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: I say, almost pregnant.

850
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Speaker 2: When you think about what you said. I was just

851
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: looking it up, this commitments speed that you're talking about

852
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: that John F. Kennedy, American University, June tenth, nineteen sixty three.

853
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: And it was titled a Strategy of Peace. And when

854
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: you think about just the juxtaposition of that versus where

855
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: we're at today, and so to your point, I mean,

856
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: the stakes had never been higher, but they have because

857
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: back then we were on the brink of nuclear war

858
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: as well. But the difference of the two positions, which

859
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: was one talking it down, like jfk Hey, we need peace,

860
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: We need to reel this in realize that the Russian

861
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: people are not our enemy. We have disagreement with the governments,

862
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: but they're not our enemy. We should we should back

863
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 2: this down versus today unfortunately, to the point they're making

864
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: the Kamala Biden administration with Hillary Clinton the other Neocon

865
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Speaker 2: warmongerers in there, they just want to continue pushing forward.

866
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: They want to continue poking the bear, so to speak, right,

867
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Speaker 2: the Russian bear. And so really both both times nineteen

868
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Speaker 2: sixty three, today the world is on the brink of

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Speaker 2: nuclear war. But the difference in the leadership and the

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Speaker 2: attitude one wanting to talk it down, one wanting to

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Speaker 2: escalate it. And I think that really encapsulates exactly what

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Speaker 2: you're talking about and really how important this election is,

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Speaker 2: because to your point, we are at the brink of

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Speaker 2: this catastrophic situation, is catastrophic war, and one side wants

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Speaker 2: to take us deeper into it, and the other side

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Speaker 2: Trump has shown four years that he is good at

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Speaker 2: removing that threat of war. So I think that really

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Speaker 2: brings the risk of what we're facing here to the forefront.

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Speaker 2: I want to wrap this up, Gerald, I mean, man,

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Speaker 2: you've given us so much information, so much food for thought,

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Speaker 2: and unfortunately a lot of scary food for thought. But

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Speaker 2: what do you want to say, like in closing, just

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Speaker 2: to everybody listening that may maybe is a little bit

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Speaker 2: scared by this. I mean, what should they be thinking

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Speaker 2: doing to sort of prepare and really protect themselves and

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Speaker 2: their family during this time?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know one of my gcs three geez guns

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Speaker 1: Golden a ghetto way plan. The most important thing really,

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Speaker 1: by the way, to me, what could change it? A

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Speaker 1: renaissance and what followed the Black Plague. The renaissance the

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Speaker 1: people realized they were killing themselves, who were destroying themselves. Ah,

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Speaker 1: the ramana Al antique and the manner of the Romans

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Speaker 1: and the ancients to describe the quality of their work.

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Speaker 3: We need a renaissance.

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Speaker 1: And to me, for everybody, the most important thing is

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Speaker 1: to get in the best shape you can physically, emotionally

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Speaker 1: and spiritually.

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Speaker 3: Like you just like right now. You know, you saw

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Speaker 3: how angry I am.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you could read Saint Thomas Aquinas

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Speaker 1: who says that anybody that is not angry when it's

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Speaker 1: morally justifiable to be angry, is immorl Yeah, and those

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Speaker 1: who are not angry, you know, when.

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Speaker 3: It is justifiable, when it's justifiable.

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Speaker 1: To be angry, they are immoral. So, yeah, I'm angry,

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Speaker 1: but I also surround myself with beauty. I try to

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Speaker 1: stay in the best shape that I can. You know,

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Speaker 1: one of the books I worked on, by the way,

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Speaker 1: way back when in the eighties was called Natural Healing

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Speaker 1: as the first book I was a big It was

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Speaker 1: a Warner book. And so people need to be in

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Speaker 1: the best shape they can in every way they can,

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Speaker 1: because this way they're thinking clearer.

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Speaker 3: And their spirit rises.

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Speaker 1: And when the spirit rises high enough, we can unite

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Speaker 1: under an umbrella of we the people.

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Speaker 3: And as I say, united. We stand.

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Speaker 1: Divided, we die, and we are in a very divisive

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Speaker 1: time right now, and we have to unite for peace.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I launched Occupy Peace over a decade ago.

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Speaker 1: I you know, it's my business to you know, see

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Speaker 1: what's evolving in this you know, I'm gonna make this

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Speaker 1: real quick.

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Speaker 3: I was the I was the number two guy running a.

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Speaker 1: Major trade association at thirty years old, living between DC

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Speaker 1: and Chicago, and I was killing environmental legislation at the

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Speaker 1: height of environmental movement in the nineteen seventies. And I

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Speaker 1: started to grow up after I, you know, and when

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Speaker 1: I moved up here, I moved to Rhinebeck. Went back

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Speaker 1: in those days, nobody.

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Speaker 3: Even heard of the place, and now it's like the

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Speaker 3: Hamptons of the North in New York.

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Speaker 2: I was a.

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Speaker 1: Recluse for four years because I started to see the

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Speaker 1: future evolve and it started breaking my heart. And it's

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Speaker 1: devolved in front of our rimes. And so I'm doing

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Speaker 1: everything I can. And again, I you know, I had

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Speaker 1: a perfect life. Pull a lot of shit in my way, kidding.

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Speaker 1: I just told you he's killed environmental legislation. But I

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Speaker 1: grew up, and that's what I'm saying, get in the

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Speaker 1: best shape you can. I've never worked harder in my life.

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Speaker 1: You see the magazine, what is it average? About one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two hundred pages a week, no adds.

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Speaker 1: So you got to do the best you can because

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Speaker 1: they're all in this together.

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Speaker 3: It's not about me or you.

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Speaker 1: But and again, I surround myself with beauty. I have

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Speaker 1: art everywhere, and art is to me. It's a wonderful

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Speaker 1: French girlfriend of mine. My reps said, art is the

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Speaker 1: way of finding the true meaning of the human spirit,

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Speaker 1: and we have to bring that back.

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Speaker 3: We need a renaissance.

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Speaker 1: We need peace and love and caring and what used

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Speaker 1: to be life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a great way to end that, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I just want to just add on to what

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Speaker 2: you're saying. I mean, what you're saying is do the

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Speaker 2: best that you can. And he goes onto something I've

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Speaker 2: been kind of saying, which is like we if we're

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Speaker 2: not we're selfish, Like we should be learning new skills

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Speaker 2: and doing new things so we can help more people.

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Speaker 2: And we really we can lead by that example. And

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Speaker 2: that's one of the things that communism hates right. They

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Speaker 2: want everyone to live in this lie. They don't want

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Speaker 2: people living their best life because then it encourages other

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Speaker 2: people to do that. But that's exactly what we should

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Speaker 2: be doing, not telling people. That's what they do. They

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Speaker 2: tell you what to do. We want to lead by example.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, be the best person that you can be.

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Speaker 2: Be in the best shape you can be, mentally, physically, spiritually,

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Speaker 2: to your point, and then hopefully that influences, not controls

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Speaker 2: or forces, but influences other people to then also rise

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Speaker 2: up and be better versions of themselves. We lead by example.

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Speaker 2: That's how America became great. Leading by example. We have

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Speaker 2: to do that all, one by one. Gerald, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for joining me today. The Trends Journal, as

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Speaker 2: he said, it's like one hundred pages of information he

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Speaker 2: writes it. I mean, the amount of effort he puts

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Speaker 2: into this is amazing. We're going to link to that

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Speaker 2: in the show notes down below, but he should definitely

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Speaker 2: check that out. Sign up for his newsletters, and with that, Joe,

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Speaker 2: we're gona ahead and sign it off.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me, and thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for what you do. I appreciate it very very much.

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Speaker 1: As I said, it's an honor for me to be

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Speaker 1: on

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Speaker 2: With you, always a pleasure,