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Speaker 2: That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: Edo state is that?

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Speaker 2: Whoo whoo? And then and tie Dan ruveristein, you have

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Speaker 2: a tough act to follow. My friend Cinemax Saturday went

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Speaker 2: over very well. It did, so I don't know what

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Speaker 2: you've got in store for us today as we prepare

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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on you right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean between dropping like a Skinemax reference on the

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Speaker 1: preview show last week and a Matt Christopher reference on

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Speaker 1: the recap show late Saturday night. I think I'm scratching

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Speaker 1: nineties weird o teenagers exactly where they itch and I

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Speaker 1: don't know where that is, but I feel like somewhere

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Speaker 2: Ty. I don't want you to unveil it now, but

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Speaker 1: So we always don't I always yeah, I'm just making sure.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you buckled under the pressure or not.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, this is this is gonna be another great

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Speaker 2: Well it is week four. Welcome back. I'm Todd, he

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Speaker 2: is Dan. This is a solivrable college football show. Thank

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Speaker 2: stand by on today's show though, we are gonna go through.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna pick games, preview games for week four. We

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Speaker 2: to get into yes, of course, the Patriot League Lightning Round.

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Speaker 2: It's something that people look forward to and there will

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Speaker 1: For the first time this season, I wrote down the

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Speaker 2: That is that is the way to do it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pat ivy week.

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Speaker 2: How many yearbook photos are we going to see that?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know exactly the the health right now

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Speaker 1: You know. NC State has had trouble running the ball,

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Speaker 1: I have Clemson covering. So I'm going against Jack Johnson

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Speaker 2: Which I think they are. I think they are. Ie.

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Speaker 2: Business time, this time. There are three things I don't

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Speaker 2: NC State's going to start CJ.

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Speaker 2: Looks like they're going to start their true freshman. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Ancy State played one good team. They lost by forty one.

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Speaker 2: It was by forty one points ten Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: But you're not who you are on your worst, now

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Speaker 2: So those two other games against Western Carolina and law Tech,

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Speaker 1: That's when I have thirty five to thirteen. And here

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Speaker 2: Three thirty CBS. How about that number eleven USC a

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Speaker 2: been waiting all year for that, all year for that,

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Speaker 2: I say that kind of broadly speaking. Because Colston Lovelin

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Speaker 1: Somewhat, Although here's the thing with this year as Michigan,

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Speaker 2: I'm just really leery about this position for USC because generally,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, especially if you have two data points with USC,

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Speaker 2: That's it, right. We don't have much to go on.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've scribbled out my answer a bunch of times.

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Speaker 2: No, it's the same conversation we just had about Clemson

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Speaker 1: That, right. I am positive USC's defense by doing by

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Michigan plus five and a half on

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Speaker 2: I think USC is the better team.

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Speaker 1: It goes with the like defense at home as a dog, right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Michigan plus the points at home.

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Speaker 2: It is the kind of matchup even if it's not

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Speaker 2: Utah ESK.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That has given Lincoln Riley fits over the years. And

436
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Speaker 2: we're talking about a very physical team that likes to

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Speaker 2: beat you on the ground. He's always kind of had

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Speaker 2: a hard time solving that, right, So from that standpoint,

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Speaker 2: I think Michigan has the line to do that though

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Speaker 2: they've got the long Yeah, I mean they want to.

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Speaker 1: I want to dunk all the time. I just don't

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Speaker 1: have the legs to do. So. Twenty four to twenty,

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Speaker 1: I've got USC winning, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Notably, if USC does beat Michigan, be the first time

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Speaker 2: they've logged a road ranked win outside of Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: since November twelfth and twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: When they does that mean UCLA they've beaten a ranked

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Speaker 1: UCLA te quote unquote on the road. So Pat Phenix, Okay.

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Speaker 2: You got to go way back twenty sixteen when they

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Speaker 2: beat number four Washington.

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Speaker 1: M that's right, Sam Donald, Sam Donald, Yeah, nice.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to four pm on the Fox network.

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Speaker 2: I believe this is probably a GUS game.

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Speaker 1: You see where Fox is going for Big Noon Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I did not Heavyweight Battle, tie Heavyweight Battle, the Ohio

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Speaker 1: State University, the Marshall Thundering Herd. It's all happening, and

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Speaker 1: I think Fox is doing Oklahoma State Utah? Is that

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Speaker 1: what you're getting into right now?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Utah versus Oklahoma State right now?

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Speaker 1: They're not from what I saw. Big News Saturday is

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Speaker 1: not going to be in Stillwater.

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Speaker 2: Weirdly enough, Utah minus two on the road at Oklahoma

463
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Speaker 2: State games at four pm. It does appear as if

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Speaker 2: Cam Rising is good to go, which brings us to

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Speaker 1: It in I want to receive a case of nugs

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Speaker 1: on my doorstep. I think a case of saucy nugs

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Speaker 1: in college football great pairing for.

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Speaker 2: A whole new way to nug. It's got to be

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Speaker 2: the way. Forty nine. That's a lot. I have been

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Speaker 2: high on Utah. I've been high on Utah since the

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Speaker 2: conference move. I still think they're the best team in

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Speaker 2: the conference. Nothing's really changed my mind on that front.

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Speaker 2: That said, what Case State did to Arizona has been

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Speaker 2: thinking a little bit more intently about it. M what

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State has done so far as be thinking a

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Speaker 2: little bit more about it. I think Alan Bowman's been

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Speaker 2: really impressive through the air. Yeah, that gap has definitely

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Speaker 2: been narrowed something. I can't tell you how much, but

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Speaker 2: to some extent it's been narrowed between Utah and the

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Speaker 2: next best teams in the conference. So we look at

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Speaker 2: this game in terms of efficiency, and this speaks to

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Speaker 2: the point you made on Tuesday. Passing offense has sort

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Speaker 2: of carried the pokes thus far.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mentioned maybe something, maybe nothing, but Oli Gordon

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Speaker 1: has been somewhat ordinary. The running game, I should say, overall,

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Speaker 1: has been somewhat ordinary.

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Speaker 2: If you want to look at a stat I mentioned

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Speaker 2: EPA before, it's just you know, there's a million of

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Speaker 2: these advanced stats that we could conjure up here, but

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Speaker 2: EPA is a good one. Measures the value pretty much

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Speaker 2: of every play. If you look at EPA per dropback

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Speaker 2: versus EPA per rush, they're getting way more bang for

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Speaker 2: the buck out out of the passing game. It's not

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Speaker 2: even close. Mm hm, where are you at here?

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it depends how much you believe in.

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Speaker 1: I suppose the Arkansas defense, so the tall defense, based

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Speaker 1: on what you think about Oklahoma State because we really

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Speaker 1: haven't seen the Pokes tested. But that's okay, we really

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Speaker 1: haven't seen Utah tested. I think you know, Baylor's defense

518
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Speaker 1: has certainly turned a corner with Dave Randa calling things,

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Speaker 1: and so they were able to slow down ish Utah.

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Speaker 1: Hard to see that though, because Cam Rising left that

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Speaker 1: game relatively early on and I don't get played in

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Speaker 1: that second half no against Baylor, So we don't have

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Speaker 1: a ton of date on either of these teams. It

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Speaker 1: seems like we have more on Oklahoma State. So what

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Speaker 1: did you say? Two and a half points two tas

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Speaker 1: favorite by two. Yeah, on the road at Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Jeff Schwartz sent us the number. It was

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Speaker 1: something like cam Rising at home is thirteen to zero

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Speaker 1: as a starter, and then on the road Neutral sites

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Speaker 1: seven and six, which is pretty dramatic, Which is a

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Speaker 1: pretty dramatic change.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's worse on the road, though that's a dramatic number.

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Speaker 1: It's a dramatic number. Of course, everybody's worse road in

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Speaker 1: Neutral and they've played obviously some very tough teams on

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Speaker 1: the road and in bowl games. But I think the

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Speaker 1: Pokes are decent, even though I don't love the defense here.

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to be able to score some

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Speaker 1: not as much as usual on this Utah defense, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just not sure about Utah's own ability to keep

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Speaker 1: up at times because it's going to be a frenzied environment.

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Speaker 1: Game is going to go into the night. Would you

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Speaker 1: say four pm Local kick four pm Eastern, but four

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern, so three three pm Local, So it'll go

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Speaker 1: into the evening where I think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: even more frenzied. I'm taking the Pokes as home dogs

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Speaker 1: here and with I think it's going to be relatively close.

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Speaker 1: And last year is when we really started saying winning

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Speaker 1: is a skill. I think Oklahoma State has that skill

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Speaker 1: and not that Utah doesn't. But at home, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give the edge to the quarterback I

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Speaker 1: trust more to go downfield and has the weapons to

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Speaker 1: go downfield, because that's been the constant thing on Utah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm going Cowboys here. I'm going to say,

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Speaker 1: what did I write down score wise twenty seven to

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Speaker 1: twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I think this is in a shanti game for me,

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Speaker 2: As the wise profit one said, it's about trust, babe, trust.

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Speaker 1: It's also fat Joe saying it to be clear.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of fat Joe in that A little

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Speaker 2: bit of fat Joe in that clip. Yeah, it's interesting

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Speaker 2: to me that you trust British comedy legend Allan Bowman.

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Speaker 1: Why is that?

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Speaker 2: Because I don't trust him at all?

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Speaker 1: He's won some big games for Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 2: He's played really well this year. Yeah, I don't trust

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Speaker 2: him in high leverage situations.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I trust Cam Rising Moore provided he's healthy. I trust

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Speaker 2: the Utah defense sore hand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I trust the Utah defense and their quarterback situation more. Now,

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Speaker 2: Cam Rising's got to be healthy, and it's not something

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Speaker 2: we can assume at this point with this dude who

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Speaker 2: can now fully rent a car without paying the surcharge. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm on Utah twenty six twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Here, Okay, we disagree, we do.

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Speaker 2: I try. I trust what Kyle Whittingham has built a

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Speaker 2: trust Camp Rising, provided he is healthy, and I trust

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Speaker 2: that defense more than anything on the Oklahoma State side. Also,

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Speaker 2: I'd be a huge hip of credit if I went

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Speaker 2: against Utah at this point. All I've been saying all

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Speaker 2: year long, it's how Utah is gonna win the when

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Speaker 2: the when the Big twelve in their first year over right,

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Speaker 2: So I got to stick to my guns a little

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Speaker 2: bit here and go Utah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is something about pop at either receiver or

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Speaker 1: running back. And I like Michael Bernard, but there is

588
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Speaker 1: something about the receiver pop that if you have it,

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Speaker 1: it goes a long way to silencing the crowd. That

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Speaker 1: when you see those big explosive plays, that that can

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Speaker 1: be something that tames a hostile crowd. And Utah just

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Speaker 1: feels like they've never had that receiver that kind of

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Speaker 1: explosive element to their offense.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Seven point thirty on ABC, it is Tennessee,

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Speaker 2: oh Man minus seven on the road at Oklahoma. Dan,

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Speaker 2: I've been workshopping a little something. I wanted to run

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Speaker 2: by you here if I could. Yeah, Tennessee's quarterback Nico Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Mo yeah yeah, Malaiyava.

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Speaker 2: For this week, for this week only, can we go Nico?

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Speaker 2: I mal Oklahoma time.

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Speaker 1: I'm really hurting with that one. I gotta be honest

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Speaker 1: with you.

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Speaker 2: I am mal Oklahoma like mal like a dog.

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Speaker 1: Maul's a victim. I'm feeling in my appendix, ty, I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling a discomfort over that nickname which tells me it's

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Speaker 1: excellent and.

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Speaker 2: Special, this is what I do on the show. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: it's it's my brand. The dumb nickname.

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Speaker 1: It's a terribly hurtful nickname to anybody who has all

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Speaker 1: been successful creatively. I'm not saying that's me, but I

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Speaker 1: feel for those out there who have been successful creatively.

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Speaker 1: To hear you say that, it's a tough beat. Continue.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I've been getting pounded with these text

614
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: messages from Oklahoma people now because I asked for them.

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00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: I brought this song myself, and the question was, hey,

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Speaker 2: guys and gals, what are the vibes in Oklahoma Land?

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Speaker 2: Because didn't feel like the vibes are great. I'd like

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Speaker 2: to know why. And, as I said a couple times

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Speaker 2: over now, gotten different responses to that. The commonality is

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Speaker 2: the vibes are not good. But some people blame the run,

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Speaker 2: other people blame the past, other people blame the play callers,

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Speaker 2: the line. It's a whole spectrum of excuses that I've

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00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: heard from Oklahoma people. But in general, Oklahoma people are

624
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: feeling a little bit down about things right now. I

625
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: have been trying to unpack this as best I can

626
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: I looked at stats, I watched games as best I

627
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: could from the young season. I think it comes down

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Speaker 2: first and foremost to line play. Okay, which I talked

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Speaker 2: about in my Oklahoma preview, I remember saying vividly, remember

630
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: saying that this was going to be a weak spot

631
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Speaker 2: for this team, or at least the biggest question mark

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Speaker 2: for this team. But then I just sort of panned

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00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: it because Bill beat and Bow's a really good offensive

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00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: line coach, so you just assume it's gonna get there

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00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: at some point. Clearly it is not there yet, and

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00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: so going into a game like this against a really

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00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: good defensive line Tennessee, it's hard for me to see

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00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: that suddenly improving. I've been saying for a long time,

639
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: don't trust stats. It's early, and that is true. But

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00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: here's an example of how multiple data points and multiple

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00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: stats at this point in the season can be pieced

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00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: together to tell a story. If we're trying to figure

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00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: out what's going on with Oklahoma right this is an

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00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: offense that has not shown any explosion whatsoever. That's reflected

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00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: in the stats with success rates. Success rates both offensively

646
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: in terms of the pass, offensively in terms of their

647
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: rushing attack are way down. Yeah, okay, so they're just not.

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Speaker 1: You don't even need the stats. You just watch to

649
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma game. Watch something's wrong.

650
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Speaker 2: You can just watch it, all right. Both of those

651
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: are among the worst in college football. The kicker though,

652
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: to add insult to injuries, that they're also one hundred

653
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: and tenth in how much pressure they're allowing on their quarterback.

654
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Speaker 2: So it's kind of a lose lose proposition, right. You

655
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: can't run because if you do, you get off schedule.

656
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: You can't pass because a quarterback doesn't have time. And

657
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: then where I'm going with this is the offense ends

658
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: up going three and out a third of the time,

659
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: which is also not good. The factor and they've been

660
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: injured out why that's not helped. It's just a lot

661
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: that's not working. That's not to say it's all on

662
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: the line, but I think the line is one of

663
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: the primary reasons why it just hasn't gone well so far.

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Speaker 2: They will have a hard time running in this game.

665
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Speaker 2: They will have a hard time running in this game.

666
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Speaker 2: That stat about giving up a lot of pressure is

667
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Speaker 2: not going away for this game. Because Tennessee's very good. Yeah,

668
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: they brings it very very good upfront. I still think

669
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Speaker 2: pretty highly a Jackson Arnold. I do, but he's going

670
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Speaker 2: to be running for his life here, so I want

671
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Speaker 2: to see what they can do to try and mitigate that,

672
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Speaker 2: because they have not been able to protect him as

673
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Speaker 2: much as I think they would.

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Speaker 1: Leading rusher Jackson Arnolds.

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Speaker 2: Leading rusher. Leading rusher not a good thing, by the way, No, No,

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see if Seth Latrell tries to incorporate

677
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Speaker 2: more screens that type of thing. I went on pff

678
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: I looked they've thrown screen passes about eleven percent of

679
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Speaker 2: the time, so it's not a huge part of what

680
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Speaker 2: they have done so far the season. Doesn't mean anything,

681
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: it's early, but would be curious to see if that's

682
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 2: something that's in the playbook this week. Given the fact

683
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Speaker 2: that they're going up against such a good pass rush,

684
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Speaker 2: it just feels like a really bad matchup to me.

685
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: It just feels like a really bad matchup to me.

686
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Speaker 2: I do think that Tennessee will also have a hard

687
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Speaker 2: time running the football because I do think highly of

688
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's defense, but I don't think they're going to have

689
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: as much trouble protecting Nico and I do think that

690
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 2: it's going to come down to whichever quarterback has the

691
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: most success through the air that team for this Tennessee

692
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Speaker 2: And I like Tennessee handily. I've got him thirty one

693
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Speaker 2: to seventeen in this game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. When you started talking about the

695
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: Oklahoma stat profile and then you said, and here's the kicker,

696
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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to talk about that. They

697
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Speaker 1: have an incredible kicker that would make up for everything

698
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Speaker 1: that you had just said. No, they can't run, they

699
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: can't pass, but my god, they have someone that this

700
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Speaker 1: ball no right that like, I see this guy going

701
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: ten twelve field goals deep. I was really hoping that's

702
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Speaker 1: where you're going.

703
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Speaker 2: With that out. He can play for the Commanders next year.

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Speaker 1: The other element you neglected was and I don't know

705
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Speaker 1: if you have the murder sound drop from the late

706
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: Andre Brower.

707
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Speaker 2: I have who just got murded?

708
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Speaker 1: No something else?

709
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Speaker 2: Did?

710
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Speaker 1: What did Andre Brower say? Oh no, it wasn't murder,

711
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: it was pain?

712
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, I can find out I have that

713
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Speaker 2: on here somewhere.

714
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Speaker 1: So you forgot the narrative element to all of this,

715
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Speaker 1: or perhaps you decided not to go through it. But

716
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: there's the hypel factor here with bad blood going back

717
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: a decade now Bob Stoops lets him go into his

718
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: Josh Hypela said, you know, it's something that you know,

719
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: I've left in the past and I have nothing but

720
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: fond memories for all my time in Norman.

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Speaker 2: They all say that, though, don't they of.

722
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: Course getting fired after you know, becoming a legend and

723
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: a really good coach, and before didn't work out, Uh,

724
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: moving on to Utah State and Missoo and UCF and

725
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: now Tennessee.

726
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: Now he gets the shot there.

727
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: It's pain, that's it now to get a shot Memorial Stadium,

728
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: to sort of have that triumphant return with what the

729
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: best young quarterback in the sport, the best edge rusher

730
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: in the sport. I don't know what other best Tennessee

731
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: have in this moment, you know, maybe the best young

732
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: receiving corps in the sport. Maybe one of the best

733
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: floppy eared mascots in the sport, and Smokey clearly. But

734
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: to like bring that to the place that you were

735
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: able to, you know, plant your flag as a college

736
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: football icon, I don't know, there's that there's just extra

737
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: extra or hot blood coursing through Josh Heipel's system right now,

738
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: so he will have the opportunity I think to go

739
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: big with this now if I'm gonna call this slow

740
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: down Saturday Tennessee beat maybe a bed NC State. Yeah,

741
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: that's it, neutral field, they haven't been tested on the road.

742
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: We're talking. Let's again, what time is kickoff?

743
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: Kickoff, seven thirty eastern.

744
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: Seven thirty tough Stadium, home dog, what we perceive to

745
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: be a strong defense. At some point there is going

746
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: to be a team that we had buried and he's

747
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: gonna shoot out of the coffin like the Undertaker right up?

748
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: Kind of yes, frighten everybody.

749
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And there is just something about Brent Venables in

750
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: this crowd and maybe this defense in this place.

751
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: Is this like a promo reel for Oklahoma? What is this?

752
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the points tie. Here's the thing with

753
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: this sport. Tie when it seems so obvious, runaway, when

754
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: it seems so obvious, Tennessee's the better team. Dan Tennessee

755
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: is the better team. The better team might not be

756
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: the better team Saturday night.

757
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: The better team doesn't always win.

758
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: So we might get Nick Anderson back as an Oklahoma

759
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: community of which I'm now a member. Juliel Farouk will

760
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: not be back Taylor Tatum. I think the freshman running back.

761
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: It has been a weirdly good year or not very

762
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: good year for like the highly ranked running backs of

763
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: the class of twenty twenty four, Cayden Durham, Nate Fraser

764
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: at Georgia, obviously, Taylor Tatum at Oklahoma. The number one back,

765
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: Jack Gibson. That's the Texas guy who's been getting the run.

766
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: He's been very good. I think there's gonna be something

767
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: in the air, and I'm gonna go Oklahoma here, not outright.

768
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: What's the lot in the number right now the time

769
00:38:52,520 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: recording seven seven? I'm gonna say thirty one, twenty seven

770
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: in falls.

771
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: They're scoring twenty seven points on Tennessee. They scored sixteen

772
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 2: two weeks ago against Houston.

773
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: Ty. You're accounting for a lot of things.

774
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: And they needed a safety in the waning moments in

775
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: the game to get to sixteen.

776
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: I hear you, somebody's going to be your dumb and

777
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: dumber and completely redeem yourself program of week four. It

778
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: might not be Oklahoma. They may lose this game fifty

779
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: one to thirteen. I grant you that, but at some

780
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: point I have to stand up and sort of vote

781
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: with my morals.

782
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: Here, Ty, I'm going on, you have no morals.

783
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: That's also true. So we disagree, we disagree, we disagree,

784
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: we disagree. Sorry, we do have that track record though,

785
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: of seeing there's going to be somebody.

786
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 2: There will be somebody, There will be somebody.

787
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: That's it all right.

788
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: So we disagree on that one. We disagreed on the

789
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: one before. Hmm, on the whole Oklahoma State game. We

790
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: disagreed on us.

791
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 1: See.

792
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: We did agree though, right down to the score on

793
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,239
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Speaker 2: the love, the commitment, and the energy you're willing to

804
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Speaker 2: put into it. So, speaking of the energy you're willing

805
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Speaker 2: to put into it, Dan, Yeah, I want to give

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864
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Speaker 1: of age drama. Great, has a good score nine percent.

865
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: Great. Maybe go see My Old Ass? Why not Richard.

866
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: Roper into it? Continue?

867
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: Here are the games that I pulled out for the

868
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: early window. And you're gonna understand very quickly. Why so

869
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: this is the week of the window of opportunity. Excuse me,

870
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: I've only got three games in my quad. I need

871
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: a fourth game. I've got at high noon on ESPN

872
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: two Kansas at West Virginia. That's a decent matchup.

873
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

874
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: I've also got Florida at Mississippi State on the ESPN.

875
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: I've got too Lane at Louisiana. I think that could

876
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: be a banger of a game. I just don't know

877
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: who else to put in a quad.

878
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: I have Virginia Coastal because of Coastal is undefeated, right yes,

879
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: and have looked impressive in doing so. Just in terms

880
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: of the G five spot, Yeah, Virginia's favorite that that

881
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: often sought after G spot tye.

882
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: That's true.

883
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: By the way, Aubrey Plaza in my old ass really yeah,

884
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: second billing aka Nicole auerback Aubrey Plaza. We love Aubrey Plaza.

885
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Pistol Shrimps.

886
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: There is a stunning resemblance between Nicole and Aubrey Paza's great.

887
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: That's my fourth team Coastal Virginia. So I'm going West

888
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: Virginia over Kansas. It might be my last ride with

889
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 2: the Ears unless they get a win. Oh.

890
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: I love West Virginia over Kansas. I love this way,

891
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: even though it's a letdown moment after the backyard brawl

892
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: loss Kansas's defense, Kansas has struggled to throw the ball,

893
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: which we saw West Virginia struggle against last week, I

894
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: Jalen Daniels without Andy Coe till Nikki Yeah, oh where

895
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: is me? A little bit early?

896
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 2: Now? The next four games for West Virginia get dicey.

897
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: It's Oklahoma State, It's Iowa State, it's Kansas State, and

898
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: it's Arizona. This is that meady middle as we've referenced

899
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: many times over and talking about West Virginia. They're favored

900
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: by two and a half in this game. I don't

901
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: necessarily feel good about going West Virginia, but I'm I'm

902
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: gonna take them anyway. The numbers I saw, I mean,

903
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: you're not wrong with what you referenced there. The ones

904
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: I saw were screaming at me to take Kansas. But

905
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it because I'm by why

906
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: a lot of red in the wrong spots for West Virginia.

907
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: Let's say, who among us doesn't have any red in

908
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: our wrong spots containing a lot of wrong reds on

909
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: that yeah spreadsheet, that's the main reason why.

910
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: But I mean, look at what Kansas has been doing

911
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: against throwing against the defenses that they've know. I know

912
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 1: it's not great.

913
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Florida against Mississippi State, though that.

914
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: Includes you and LV By the way, in terms of

915
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: Kansas opponents continue.

916
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: Correct bit of a getaway game for the Gators, so

917
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: they're headed into a bye week. Yeah, after this game

918
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: on the road Atssissippi State, if they lose, billion Napier

919
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: is gonna have to uber it back to Gainesville. Yeah,

920
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: he's toast. He is not making it through that bye

921
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: week full stop. We mentioned something though briefly on Tuesday,

922
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 2: to the point of confidence in Florida. The opening line

923
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 2: was about four and a half. Clearly that is not

924
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: a vote of confidence in favor of the Gators from

925
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: the standpoint of Las Vegas, because Mississippi State's in full

926
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: on rebuilding boat Dan.

927
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense is tough.

928
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: I don't think we can rule anything out at this

929
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: point with respect to Florida or their opponents, because my

930
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: read on both the performances we saw against Miami as

931
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: well as Texas A and m is that there were

932
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: genuinely points in that game, both those games where it

933
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: felt like Florida quit. I don't like that. Okay, one thing,

934
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: if you're losing, but it feels like you're playing whistle

935
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: to whistle on the full way through that Miami game.

936
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean, god, midway through the third quarter, are they

937
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: even trying? It did not feel like there was a

938
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: whole lot of effort going on, and I got a

939
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: little bit of that in the later stages of that

940
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: game last week against A and M SO, I think,

941
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: regardless of where Mississippi State is at with their own rebuild,

942
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 2: given that that might be the vibe on the Florida side,

943
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: Mississippi State's going to be fired up for this game. Sure,

944
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: they're going to be fired up for this game. Six

945
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: points I'm on the Bulldogs plus the points. I kind

946
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: of don't know what to expect.

947
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: That, But don't you need to like something about Mississippi State?

948
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: Like are you like a big blake Shapen guy? Like

949
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: is there something about Mississippi State that you like beyond

950
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: the like they're vaguely going to be fired up or

951
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: like the atmosphere will be vaguely interesting. A week after

952
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: losing by fifty three to Toledo, Yeah, forty one to

953
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: seventeen was the final time.

954
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: I don't think that.

955
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: Affects vibes in like the most positive way.

956
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: It does not, But I'm just worried about more than

957
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: anything a Florida quitting scenario. Okay, I'm worried that this

958
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: game this season feels like a lost cause.

959
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: I'm worried about a Mississippi State not having enough good

960
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: players scenario.

961
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, if that were the case, in the

962
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: line should be higher. Wow, it should be that hihy.

963
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: Why why isn't the line higher?

964
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Because it's a road game and there's very little faith

965
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: in Florida's ability week to week to come together to

966
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: beat even underwhelming teams. But they have beaten and I

967
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: the only underwhelming team they've faced this year, Samford. Sure, yes, sure,

968
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what Mississippi State is against Samford. I

969
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you can like conjure up that line

970
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: with your your magic algorithm.

971
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: No, I don't have that one.

972
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Florida here. I think they'll be able

973
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: to run at them. I don't think they're going to

974
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: destroy them, but I think they Yeah, I think they

975
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: can beat them twenty eight to seventeen, running straight at

976
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: them with Montreal Johnson.

977
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: Sure, I'm gonna go to lane minus whatever against Louisiana.

978
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: I like Louisiana. I think this is a good matchup.

979
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: Tulane's favored by three on the road. Tulane basically needs

980
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: to win out though now they've got two back to

981
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: back losses right lost against k State, could have won

982
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: that game, lost last week as well against Oklahoma. Yeah,

983
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: this is definitely a losable game for the Green Wave,

984
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: along with Memphis, which she says at the end of

985
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 2: the year. So they got to win out if they

986
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: want to have any shot at that G five spot.

987
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ride the Green Wave one more time, one

988
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: more time here Tulay minus three.

989
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm gonna take Louisiana coming off of bye

990
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: at home as a dog. I don't trust their numbers

991
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: right now because of their opponents, But I'm gonna take

992
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: Louisiana at home as a dog just situationally, I think

993
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: it's a good play. Tulane one of the most tested teams,

994
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: if not the most tested team in the country, having

995
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: now faced Kansas State and Oklahoma. But yeah, I'm still

996
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: going raging cagens here. You are you on Virginia at coastal,

997
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm on coastal, or you're on coastal, I'm on coastal.

998
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna I think their offense is going

999
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: to be all right against Virginia, Yes, the other game.

1000
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: That I highlighted here, and then we'll move on to

1001
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: the afternoon block, which definitely has more artillery in it. Yeah,

1002
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 2: Charlotte at Indiana. Indiana's favored by twenty eight points. I

1003
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: would go heavy on Indiana their minus whatever. I think

1004
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: they are on a mission to score as many points

1005
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: as possible and Charlotte does not play defense.

1006
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: Now, do you know? Continue?

1007
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: That's all I have?

1008
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: No, Okay, there's a gentleman by the name six one five.

1009
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: Name is Julian Lewis. Had to double check his name.

1010
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: He is a two four seven five star quarterback, the

1011
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: number four quarterback in the nation, currently committed to USC.

1012
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: There are flip rumors that he will flip to Indiana.

1013
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the good stuff.

1014
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti, Baby, that energy, I mean, it's it is pervasive,

1015
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: is it not?

1016
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: We I mean he might have some kind of he

1017
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: might have some kind of other connection. I'm not deep

1018
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: in the recruiting game to Indiana that that is sort

1019
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: of leading that charge, but I don't know. Like, nice

1020
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: to see them in that conversation. Our friend Yogi ros

1021
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: is calling this game. Guy Aberman, Guy Haberman great, so

1022
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't know Indiana's got that juice. I'm also interested

1023
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati Houston just because I think Houston has an

1024
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: interesting defense. Even though they can't seem to move the ball,

1025
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati should be able to go right at them on

1026
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: the ground and succeed. So I have Cincinnati there. I

1027
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: have James Madison covering against North Carolina. I like that

1028
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: North Carolina was not able to throw the ball last week.

1029
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: Now they did not play anybody, and that worries me

1030
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: about North Carolina's ceiling this year. I think jam you

1031
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: can cover this game. I don't think they're gonna win

1032
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: that game. Otherwise, they don't have too many thoughts on

1033
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: the other ones in this window.

1034
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: Let's go to the afternoon.

1035
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: Block, and my question to you is how bad do

1036
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: you really want place?

1037
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,239
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1039
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,040
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1040
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter anywhere.

1041
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,080
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1042
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:51,720
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1043
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 2: Tag unsuspecting friends or media folk doesn't matter. Yeah, get creative.

1044
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: Three point thirty afternoon block as a whole. I've got

1045
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: these four games that actually have pulled five games out,

1046
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna reference these four three thirty ESPN Arkansas

1047
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: at Auburn Auburn minus three at home. Interesting matchup three

1048
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: point thirty. We've got Georgia Tech at Louisville Louisville minus ten,

1049
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: five pm on the c DUB. We've got the Iron

1050
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: Skillet TCU minus three at SMU. And then we've got

1051
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: ties lock of the week, Block of the week Rutgers

1052
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 2: plus three and a half on the road at Virginia Tech.

1053
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: Rutgers is my lock of the week. Zero hesitation from me.

1054
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: I kind of tip my hand on this on Tuesday, right, Yeah,

1055
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: talked about this on Tuesday. I got this one when

1056
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: it was at five and a half. Since then, it's

1057
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: come down. My guess is it could come down further.

1058
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: This is just a really bad matchup for Virginia Tech.

1059
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: And I think we all collectively as a college football

1060
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: watching and rooting and analyzing public, got a little over

1061
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: our skis with Tech in the preseason because most people

1062
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: like Kyroen Drones. He was good at the end of

1063
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: last year. The schedule for Virginia Tech looks beautiful Rutgers

1064
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: is going to beat their brains in on the ground

1065
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: with Kyle Manangai aka the Heel Monster. They are going

1066
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: to beat the ever loving snot out of Virginia Tech

1067
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: on the ground and they're going to win this game

1068
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: outright in Blacksburg. That is the Hawk of the week.

1069
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: Rutgers not a good road team last year. That was

1070
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: last year thirty one seven.

1071
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: New vibe with Athan caliac Manus with the Heel Monster

1072
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 2: back being a monster.

1073
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: Give me ord to com find six points against Iowa

1074
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: and Penn State in November last year on the road. Whatever,

1075
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't think Virginia Tech has the defense of twenty

1076
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: twenty three Penn State or twenty twenty three Iowa.

1077
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: Do you disagree with that pick? Now? I have.

1078
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: I have Rutgers emboldened here just because it's I mean,

1079
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: that is the Ashanti moment for me, Like I don't

1080
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: know what to trust with Virginia Tech in this moment.

1081
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: I think the best of Kien Drones is interesting, but

1082
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: week to week, I don't know. Virginia Tech doesn't seem

1083
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: trustworthy to me. And that's the type of team I

1084
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: think Rutgers can again. It beat them last year in

1085
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: Piscataway can again take down. So I'm going Rutgers here.

1086
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: Who are you picking? In the Arkansas avereign game? Auburn

1087
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 2: favored by three.

1088
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: Oh Man went back and forth with this one. I

1089
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: have Arkansas bold on my legal pad here if you're

1090
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: watching on cheddar. I want to see more out of

1091
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: Hank Brown. I want to see more out of the

1092
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: I trust Jarquis Hunter, you know plenty, but I want

1093
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: to see this Auburn team come together for four quarters.

1094
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: And Arkansas at home certainly tested even though they lost

1095
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: against Oklahoma State. Didn't love how they started out against UAB,

1096
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: but I like how they responded at least. Yeah, that's

1097
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: some silver lining to be able to come back after

1098
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: going down a couple of touchdowns. So I think Arkansas

1099
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 1: should still be able to move the ball, probably more

1100
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: through the air than on the ground, if memory serves

1101
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: on Auburn's stat profile and Auburn's season so far. But yeah,

1102
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Hogs at home in a

1103
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: winnable game.

1104
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 2: So I screwed it up on the sheet. It's actually

1105
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: Auburn at home.

1106
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: Oh are you screwed me again?

1107
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: Ty?

1108
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: I did get massage by tie dot Com.

1109
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm still with Arkansas even on.

1110
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: You have Arkansas in the row. Hold on, this changes things. Yeah,

1111
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: you wrote it down incorrectly and I trusted you.

1112
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 2: I did, and you know what, I changed it on

1113
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 2: mine and I didn't tell you.

1114
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Arkansas. Okay, hold on, I got to

1115
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: see it visually. Arkansas at Auburn. I'm typing this out.

1116
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: This is good. Listen.

1117
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: This is the most betrayal you may have ever felt

1118
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: from me.

1119
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: And who's favored here? Ty I want to get this

1120
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: information grow.

1121
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 2: Auburn favored by a field goal at home.

1122
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: Auburn minus three against Arkansas at home. Yeah, you know

1123
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: what if in my in my marrow I said Arkansas before,

1124
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with it, even though I haven't fully

1125
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: thought it through. I'm gonna go Arkansas, my apologies.

1126
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 2: Three thirty it's Georgia Tech at Louisville Louisville minus ten.

1127
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 2: Close game last year, Yeah, close game. Louisville came back

1128
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 2: from a fifteen point deficit. I want to say they

1129
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: won on the road in Atlanta. Kind Of hard to

1130
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: judge where Louisville's at this year. We know next to

1131
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: nothing about them because they haven't.

1132
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: Really coming off a bye.

1133
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: Coming off of bye, it should be there for Tyler

1134
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: Shuck to have a big game through the air. I

1135
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: agree it should be there because Tech still has this

1136
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: liability on defense. I just don't want to lay ten

1137
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: against Tech. They're feisty as hell, so I'm gonna go

1138
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: Tech plus whatever here.

1139
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: Okay, but what they did against Florida State has been

1140
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: downgraded because it's sort of take a ticket and collect

1141
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: your win against Florida State at this moment, so we say, yeah,

1142
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: I guess Georgia Tech should have been in Florida State,

1143
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: and they did. They did what was expected of them

1144
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: in hindsight. In hindsight, I like the situational play because

1145
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: of I like the Louisville receivers. I'm pretty sure I

1146
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: like the Louisville defense, and I think there are more

1147
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: ways for Louisville to win at home again after a bye.

1148
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give those points. I'm gonna put my faith

1149
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: in Jeff Brohm. With time, I.

1150
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 2: Think louis the wins. I think they win, but I

1151
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 2: think it's something like thirty eight thirty. I think there

1152
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:16,959
Speaker 2: are a lot of points in this game.

1153
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm thirty three nineteen. I know this game was somewhat

1154
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: high scoring last year to start the air and Georgia

1155
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: Tech gave up a late lead, late ish lead. But no,

1156
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: I think Louisville's in good shape here thirty three nineteen.

1157
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: Skillet game TCUSMU. This is a rivalry. Throw the records out.

1158
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna play the sound. I'm just fully out

1159
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: on SMU. Man, they did me dirty. Probably my worst

1160
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: prediction ever. And this goes all the way back to

1161
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: that one year when I think it was just Kirk,

1162
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: Kirk Street and me who picked Arizona State to go

1163
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: to the playoff.

1164
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Todd Graham team.

1165
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm out on SMU. They are definitely not

1166
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: what I thought SMU is going to be. They're not

1167
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 2: winning the ACC, They're not going twelve. Oh, they're not

1168
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: going anywhere close to twelve. And oh TCU, I thought

1169
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: tcskes of smoke last couple of weeks.

1170
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: Right up until they were up twenty eight to seven

1171
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: against UCF. Yeah, so I'm on TCU. I like TCU

1172
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: here minus Winn. I think I trust the pop of

1173
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: TCU's offense a little bit more through the air and

1174
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: even again, that's the really fun matchup is TCU throwing

1175
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: the ball against SMU on defense in a rivalry game.

1176
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm still going to go TCU because I think I

1177
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: believe in them going downfield more than anything else in

1178
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: this game.

1179
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: So the two other games that I highlighted here very quickly,

1180
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: and this is just for my own purposes, Notre Dame

1181
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: going up against another MAC team is a twenty eight

1182
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: point favorite at home, just saying, just saying, let's see

1183
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: if this one goes a little bit better against Miami

1184
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: Ohio or whatever that's worth. Notre Dame's licking its wounds

1185
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: long both lines, both Jordan Mattello. They also lost their

1186
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 2: right guard for the year, so it's it's been an

1187
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: injury riddled a couple of weeks here for the Irish,

1188
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: notably last week, and they lost some big guns along

1189
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 2: the trenches. But we'll see what happens the game though.

1190
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: That's if interest to me is at six pm ECU

1191
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: against Liberty.

1192
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: It's a really nice game.

1193
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: So Liberty is favored by six and a half points here,

1194
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: and I kind of like ECU plus the points because

1195
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: this is far and away the best defense that Liberty

1196
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: is going to see all year, and it's a look

1197
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: ahead spot because they've got app State on deck next week.

1198
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a really big game next week, one

1199
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: of the games that we're gonna have to highlight and

1200
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: talk more about Liberty against app State. So we saw

1201
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: what ECU did to app State and their offense a

1202
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: week ago, held them to just twenty one points. I

1203
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: would like this linet a little bit more if it

1204
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: were at seven and not six and a half, but

1205
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 2: I still like it. I still think ECU with that

1206
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: defense is enough of a change up for Liberty in

1207
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 2: this offense that they can keep this one within that number.

1208
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: Who struggled to separate for stretches.

1209
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: Liberties here they have and with the look ahead element,

1210
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, feels like a good situation to take

1211
00:59:58,120 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: the points.

1212
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: I almost think it's a letdown moment though, for ECU

1213
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: giving up the lead that they gave up. Right, it's

1214
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: possible to go on the road and take on a

1215
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: pretty decent Liberty team. Yeah, I think I'm gonna give

1216
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: those points. I think Liberty wins this one. By the way,

1217
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm taking the points with Miami Ohio against Yeah, I mean,

1218
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: what conference is Miami of Ohio, and we're talking about

1219
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: Maccus Freeman here, so let's go. Let's go Notre Dad.

1220
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: It's the neatest thing you've ever said in your life.

1221
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: What Macus Freeman? Is that not a thing yet?

1222
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it yet.

1223
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to go uh Miami to cover and

1224
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: still lose this game thirty one to ten.

1225
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: Man, I should hit stop right now. That's so mean. Earned.

1226
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: It is earned. It is earned. Let's move and I

1227
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: you and the drivers to the pain zones where we live.

1228
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: Speaking of pain zones, that comment.

1229
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1230
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: ESPN two, seven pm Eastern. It is cal at Florida State.

1231
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: This game has sort of its own subplot altogether.

1232
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: It's great.

1233
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 2: Have you gotten caught up in the calgorithm yet?

1234
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: Of course I have. That's a great turn out.

1235
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: On social media cal Twitter. I didn't know cal Twitter

1236
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 2: had this kind of game. I don't know if anybody did.

1237
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: But they're fully steering into every caricature and stereotype that

1238
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: may exist about the university and the state and a

1239
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: whole bunch of other stuff that we won't get into here.

1240
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: And they've had a lot of fun with it, and

1241
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: it is funny. As hell. So if you haven't gotten

1242
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: caught up in the calgorithm on your own, I would

1243
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: encourage you to go out there and check it out. Meanwhile,

1244
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: with respect to this game, it's cal at Florida State.

1245
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: Florida State favored by two. Have you looked at Florida

1246
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: State stat profile at all?

1247
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: No, because I've watched the games and that's enough Florida

1248
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: State for one person to handle in a fall.

1249
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: This might be one instance where I think you can

1250
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: trust it okay through a couple weeks in the year,

1251
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 2: because they've played three decent teams Georgia Tech, Boston College,

1252
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: Memphis a week ago. Interestingly enough, in like a cruel

1253
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: bit of symmetry, Florida State has undershot its offensive projection

1254
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 2: by almost exactly eighteen points in all three of their

1255
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: games so far this season, almost to the number eighteen.

1256
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 2: What does that mean? If that holds true in the

1257
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 2: col game, they'd score about ten points. And so you

1258
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: hear that and you say wow, But then you consider, well,

1259
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: they only scored twelve against Memphis. We didn't think Memphis

1260
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: is going to have much of a defense. I'm not

1261
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: saying they score ten points. I think they'll score more

1262
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 2: than ten points. But it stands to reason that there's

1263
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: a lot going on with this team that that trend,

1264
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: even if it's a little bit better, is going to

1265
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: continue against cal defense that I think is okay. Yeah,

1266
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: so I think we are getting to this point now,

1267
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: especially with Florida State, where this is the mistake I

1268
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: made a week ago. I looked at that matchup and

1269
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: I said, well, they just got have way more talent

1270
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 2: than Memphis, and they do. But we're not at the

1271
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: point anymore where we can just blindly look at the

1272
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: talent and say that's good enough to carry them through

1273
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: because there are there are deeper issues at play here.

1274
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: I cannot believe I'm saying this, But give me cal

1275
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: plus the points.

1276
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm taking cal plus the points.

1277
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: Are we going to turn this into Klahassee?

1278
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: It's good. I enjoyed that the calgarithm in Callahassee. Also

1279
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: a look ahead spot right. Florida State has SMU on

1280
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: the road next week. It's maybe their most winnable moment

1281
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: according to the exact inverse of your season prediction. I'mbelievable. Yeah,

1282
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm going cal here. I think I just don't think

1283
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: there are I don't think you can turn around this

1284
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: Florida State battle cruiser here, and so I'm going I'm

1285
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: going col By. I don't know eight to twelve points here?

1286
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: That much? Yeah in Callahassee.

1287
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: In cal you're calling a Callahassee for a reason, twenty

1288
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: one to ten Cal.

1289
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to see what Cal Twitter looks like

1290
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: if this happens.

1291
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: I just what reason do you possibly have? Here's the

1292
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: other question? Right, Okay, So let's say Florida State wins

1293
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: three games this year. Let's say they follow up a

1294
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: season in which they arguably should have been in the

1295
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: college football playoff, a four team playoff, and are just

1296
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: right on the edge there. Obviously, they lose the bowl

1297
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: game in embarrassing fashion. They go three and nine. You're

1298
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: talking like sub four and eight. Brian Kelly, Mark Helfrich, whatever,

1299
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: like quality coaches. And now Mark Halfridge got fired, but

1300
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly was able to turn him around, but got

1301
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: a lot of crap. Going four and eight. You do

1302
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: worse than that starting as a top ten team. Has

1303
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: Mike Norvell done enough to keep that job?

1304
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: Mike Norville almost got hired by Bama.

1305
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in that on that short list.

1306
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: I can't see them getting rid of Norville. I can't

1307
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: see it. This has been a bad year. It's already

1308
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 2: been a bad year, and it might not get better.

1309
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 2: But I know they can't. I mean, they just re

1310
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 2: upped him. He's getting like ten million year, isn't he?

1311
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 2: I know, I don't think you can get I guess not.

1312
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: I understand the argument for it. Clearly, this is disappointing, but.

1313
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: I guess it's good that. At the same time, Florida

1314
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: is horrendous and he's even more obviously on the hot seat.

1315
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: I didn't say horrendous. Horrendous has words have meanings. Florida's

1316
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: not horrendous. They're disappointing. They're very disappointing.

1317
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: But high times, if you're a Miami fan right now,

1318
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: high times you're a UCF fan.

1319
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: Well, we'll get to Miami us F in a moment.

1320
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: Continue, we'll get to Miami USF. Who wins the rock

1321
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: fight between Iowa and Minnesota. We've got Iowa minus two

1322
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: and a half on the road in Minneapolis.

1323
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: You're sure your shirt's in Minneapolis.

1324
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's in Minneapolis.

1325
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

1326
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: The over under is thirty five and a half. You

1327
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: know exactly what kind of game you're getting here. Iowa

1328
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 2: favored by two and a half.

1329
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: I saw. I think Bill C's prediction was was like

1330
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: iOS seventeen point eight to Minnesota seventeen point three was

1331
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: the margin and the score. So you gotta take the points, right,

1332
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: I guess you have to take the points if you

1333
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: are a believer in that prediction. I'm going with Iowa here. Actually,

1334
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: so Minnesota won this game last year, right? Was this

1335
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: the Cooper Dejene game? The wave not wave situation? Was it? Yeah?

1336
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: Floyda Rosedale? Am I correcting that too?

1337
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: Yes, this is Fluy Okay, So a lot.

1338
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: On the line here, So this is Look, if we

1339
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: were having questions about these two quarterbacks, right, Cad McNamara's

1340
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: certainly had some low moments this year. They scored nearly

1341
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: forty against Troy last week, Iowa did. Minnesota had an

1342
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: impressive win. They generated turnovers against Nevada, but I think

1343
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: they did they have two scoring drives or two touchdown

1344
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: drives in this game against Nevada on the road, because

1345
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: I think they had a short field and they just

1346
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 1: weren't able to do much else in terms of scoring touchdowns,

1347
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: so score not necessarily indicative of overwhelming Nevada. They certainly

1348
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: didn't overwhelm Nevada with the passing game. So as much

1349
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: as you are nose to bros. What is your nickname.

1350
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 2: Here, it's Bros before nose.

1351
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 1: Bros before nos eancuse me? Yeah, I'm gonna say I'm

1352
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna I have a few nose for Minnesota here, So

1353
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Iowa on the road. I think

1354
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: there are more ways for them to win. And I

1355
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: don't necessarily trust Minnesota's defense in this moment. I think

1356
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: it's good, for sure good, but I don't fully trust

1357
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: it like I do.

1358
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 2: You don't trust them against Iowa's offense, that's a statement.

1359
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: Two great running backs, by the way, and Darius Taylor

1360
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson. That's a nice matchup, But no, not fully.

1361
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: I would trust pretty much any defense against the Siowa offense.

1362
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 2: I still don't think they're good. Minnesota is my home

1363
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: dog of the week.

1364
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: Have fun the Yokos home dog of the week.

1365
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna buy this one up to three. Okay,

1366
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 2: Minnesota plus the three, and I'm gonna do so while

1367
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: yelling at the top of my lungs tie you into

1368
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 2: the cool Crisp Autumn air Pennsylvania. A. Yeah, gotta go Minnesota, baby,

1369
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a close game. I have no

1370
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: idea who wins this game, okay, but I want the points.

1371
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: Here.

1372
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 2: You go, Miami USF. Miami favored by sixteen and a

1373
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 2: half on the road against the Bulls, so you got.

1374
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: I have USF covering, so do I? I have them

1375
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: covering at home because they are able to sort of

1376
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: frustrate teams, as we saw against Alabama upfront on defense,

1377
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: they're swarming, they get pressure, and Miami appears to be

1378
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: healthier along the offensive line than they've been earlier this

1379
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: year that they're getting a guy or two back. But

1380
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: I still think there is something about USF the way

1381
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: that they play offense. They're going to take some shots

1382
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: Byron Brown's going to extend plays that they're not going

1383
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: to be run away from the number is what sixteen

1384
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: seventeen points?

1385
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: Sixteen and a half?

1386
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:58,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, sixteen and a half.

1387
01:08:59,240 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1388
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: I think they can keep it within that. So I

1389
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,839
Speaker 1: think they lose by I don't know, ten to thirteen points,

1390
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: So I'm going to say twenty eight seventeen Miami.

1391
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 2: Night game, sort of the de facto title game for USF.

1392
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, de facto super Bowl. Absolutely in

1393
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: state USF at Night.

1394
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: Give me the points, we go points in a situation.

1395
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: Like that, and I think Miami's good.

1396
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 2: I do think Miami's good. And then a couple other

1397
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: ones here that I just pulled out. The one that

1398
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm putting in the quad is Michigan State Boston collegem Okay,

1399
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: Boston College at home, six and a half point favorite.

1400
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: I'm on Michigan State plus the points, though I don't

1401
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 2: think they win. I think it's a three to four

1402
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 2: point affair.

1403
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1404
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: I think the narrative that I am going to latch

1405
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 2: onto now with Michigan State is that Michigan State is

1406
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 2: plucky and Michigan State is feisty. That they're still not

1407
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 2: going to qualify for a Bowl, but they are in

1408
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 2: every game, they are playing whistle to whistle, and if

1409
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: nothing more, it seems like they're.

1410
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: More organized Michigan State three and oh in this moment.

1411
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 2: Michigan State is one of those surprise three and oh teams.

1412
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you don't think you think they're gonna win?

1413
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: Two more games the rest of the way. I'm saying

1414
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna come.

1415
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying I don't know what they're gonna do. Oh okay,

1416
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 2: but I feel like we saw improvement already through just

1417
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks of the season. I don't feel

1418
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 2: like Boston College is that head and shoulders above frankly

1419
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: anybody so far. I like Boston Florida State, right, but

1420
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: Florida State. I like Boston College. I think they're gonna

1421
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: be solid in their own right. But I also think

1422
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: Michigan State's gonna better, perhaps than we thought at first.

1423
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: Then the defense is legitimately pretty good. So give me

1424
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: the point, Okay, give me give me the points plus

1425
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 2: the six and a half.

1426
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna give those points. I think

1427
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: Boston College is I think there's still work to be done.

1428
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 1: And I don't trust Aid and Childs on the road

1429
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: at night, away from home, because that's what on the

1430
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 1: road means a little two turnover prone for me. So

1431
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 1: I think I think BAC can win this by ten.

1432
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: Only two other points here. Baylor plays Colorado eight pm

1433
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 2: on Fox. Colorado favor by one and a half points,

1434
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 2: which feels low. To me, that feels unnecessarily low. So

1435
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm not making a pick on this game. I have

1436
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: no idea who I'm picking here. I'm just curious to

1437
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 2: see how this game unfolds. Because when I looked at that, generally,

1438
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 2: what I do before I put any of the points

1439
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: spreads in here, I'll just put the matchups down. Yeah,

1440
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: and then when the points spreads come out as I'm

1441
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: going through, I try to guess what they are, try

1442
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: to react to them and jot down my gut instinct.

1443
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: And I thought this won't be way higher in favor

1444
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:31,799
Speaker 2: of Colorado.

1445
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going to take the points here. You're going

1446
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: Baylor's defense plus one and a half. Yes, I think

1447
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 1: Baylor can win this game out right. And look, they're

1448
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: playing at altitude right, Baylor's acclimated. Baylor's just played at Utah?

1449
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: Did they not?

1450
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: They did? They did?

1451
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: Baylor? I believe you can look this up in fact

1452
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 1: check me live. Do they have the number one most

1453
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: efficient defense in America in this moment?

1454
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: I believe they do.

1455
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: The pass defense is very good, the pass rush has

1456
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: been good, blitzing has been very good. I don't know

1457
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: if you get after the quarterback well, I mean, you

1458
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: got to consider the teams they've played, but if you

1459
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback, well, it's a pretty nice quality

1460
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: to have going against Colorado in that offensive line. It's

1461
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: a Dave Randon defense. Now, I think this is a

1462
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: nice matchup. I think Baylor's winning this game. I don't

1463
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: love Baylor this year long term, but I think it's advantageous.

1464
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, Baylor plus one and a half, you're taking the points.

1465
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: Wow, Well, if it seems like a weird number, Like

1466
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: if you thought that, like Colorado should be favored by

1467
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: four and a half, five and a half points at

1468
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 1: home at night against a Baylor team that is now

1469
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: onto its backup quarterback and Sawyer Robertson who was good

1470
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: against air Force, then you're like, well, Colorado, this is

1471
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: a winnable game for Colorado. I has a number so tiny, microscopic.

1472
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 2: Right'm going Baylor here, all right? The only other one

1473
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 2: I pointed out here, I think I talked about this

1474
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 2: one earlier in the week, But Bowling Green at A

1475
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 2: and M A and M favored by a couple of

1476
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 2: touchdowns twenty three points. But I think Bowling Green is

1477
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: a good team, and so this is not me saying

1478
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna win the game, but they did go to

1479
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: state College and give Penn State all they could handle, right,

1480
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,799
Speaker 2: Just curious to see what this one looks like, Curious

1481
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 2: to see how long Bowling Green hangs around. I probably

1482
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 2: would not lay the number against Bowling Green simply because

1483
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 2: I think we saw a little bit of what they're

1484
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 2: capable of. Yeah, the MAC is very interesting because it's

1485
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 2: not just Toledo and Miami the way we assumed at

1486
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: the start of the year. It's also Northern Illinois obviously

1487
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: beat Notre Dame. They're ranked Bowling Green I think has

1488
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 2: acquitted itself pretty well. So maybe four teams at the

1489
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 2: top of the MAC that we need to pay attention to.

1490
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the MAC is just like the coordinated prison attack

1491
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: from Breaking Bad, right where they're just like going after

1492
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: major teams one by one. I like Bowling Green to cover.

1493
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 1: This is a slowdown moment for me with Texas A

1494
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: and m especially because I think we we appreciated the

1495
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: Marcel Reid experience last week against Florida, but it's still

1496
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: backup courquarterback. We still don't know the quarterback. If it's

1497
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 1: Marcel Read, if it's Connor Wagman at the time of recording.

1498
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: I don't know if we know. Yeah, I'm gonna subscribe

1499
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: to the bays Crazier in Connor Bayslack. So let's go

1500
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: bowling Green plus the points. They don't win this game,

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01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 1: but they're they're feisty.

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01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: I'll also give you a chance to pick the ten

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01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: thirty game, which is case State on the road at BUYU.

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01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: Case State favored by six and a half. You're gonna

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01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: go with your boy, Retzliff.

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01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: BYU has been interesting this year. Who did they just

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01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: beat SMU?

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01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: Man, maybe I'll let down moment, but a little extra

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01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: time because they played on a Friday night. I'm gonna

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01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: go BYU to cover here. I don't know if they win,

1512
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: but maybe they're feisty this year. Maybe they're feisty. Maybe

1513
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 1: it's a situation, a nice situational moment. So I'm gonna

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01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: go BYU at home at altitude in Provo. By the way,

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01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: you met, you didn't mention one game in the afternoon window,

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: which I think is actually kind of interesting. Texas Tech Arizona.

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: State tex Tech Arizona State Tech favored by three.

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01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah at home? Yeah, they absolutely who did Texas Tech.

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,879
Speaker 1: They laid the lumber last week. Is it North Texas?

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01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: Who do they immediately? Yeah? They they scored. It was

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01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 1: like fifty, not fifty, but it was it's like twenty

1523
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: eight to nothing in the first quarter. It was something ridiculous.

1524
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: Arizona State interesting. I'm going Texas Tech here. I think

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01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: it's a tough place to win. I hate selecting this

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: Texas Tech defense, which has been crazy disappointing. You know,

1527
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: Abilene Christian and Washington State were able to move the

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01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: ball kind of at well. Arizona State is interesting to me,

1529
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: But I'm going Texas Tech. But I'm going to that.

1530
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: That's borderline quad over the skillet game for me.

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01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: There you go. That does it for this week of

1532
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: picks on the solid verbal again. You know what to

1533
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 2: do on the social media is please do tag us

1534
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 2: share out the episode. We're going to pick our favor.

1535
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: We'll send you a coupon for a free piece of

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Speaker 2: gear from the soliverbal Mergency Choice.

1537
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1538
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: If you are on the go and if you're in

1539
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 2: the market for live college football games and podcasts in

1540
01:15:54,640 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 2: pristine audio form, yes, helpful reminder here. Varsity Net down

1541
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Speaker 2: with the Varsity Network app. It's free and get in

1542
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Speaker 2: the Apple App Store. You can get it on the

1543
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Speaker 2: Google Play Store. Search for your school. While you've got

1544
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: all the content you want, We're on there. Our friends

1545
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: over at the Sickos Committee they're on there as well.

1546
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: Stevie speed Run.

1547
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:20,480
Speaker 2: Stevie speed Run is over there handing the Deepen Hertzell podcasts.

1548
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: Of course college football Blitz. Get all this fun stuff

1549
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 2: by listening to the Varsity Network app. I've had it

1550
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 2: on my phone now for it's great. As long as

1551
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 2: it's been out, I am staple for me give them

1552
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: what we do.

1553
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: I went on Hertzell and Michael Felder's show and it

1554
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: ended with us talking about food and Michael Felder recommending

1555
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: to everybody listening please save your carcasses for stocks and broth.

1556
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: Did you talk to Stephen Hartzel about his nickname on

1557
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: our show, Stevie speed Run.

1558
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: I didn't have the opportunity. They wanted to talk a

1559
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: lot about Oregon, and then they wanted to talk about

1560
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: food and God, they scratched me right where.

1561
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 2: I you might never talk to him ever again. You

1562
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 2: missed the chance.

1563
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: I think I will. I feel good about my chances.

1564
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: That does it for Week four one in all the

1565
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: last Saturday.

1566
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: Slow down Saturday, unless you want to quickly drop that big, stanky, writhing,

1567
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: convulsing drummon Fife for me.

1568
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: Here we go pat League pat IVY pat IVY Princeton

1569
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: at Lee High High noon. This from being played at

1570
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 2: Lee High where you and I sat at the fifty

1571
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 2: yard line in very cold temperatures in January. Yeah, we

1572
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 2: did this past year. I'm going Lee High here? Why not?

1573
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: I have Lee High here against Princeton. The IVY League's

1574
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: IVY League teams yet to play a single game this season.

1575
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 2: Twelve noon Lafayette on the road of Columbia, dan.

1576
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: Oh Lafayette an overwhelming offense here for the Eddies.

1577
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: One pm Brown at Georgetown. Could just assume Georgetown right,

1578
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: multi sport field.

1579
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: Of course, Brown's untested. They haven't played a game. You're

1580
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: going to start your season the Hornets nest. That is

1581
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: my Tlaye bord Field. I don't think so.

1582
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 2: Fordham on the road at Dartmouth. Fordham's still looking at

1583
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 2: its wounds from that scent Con game a couple of

1584
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 2: weeks ago.

1585
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fordham might be having a rebuilding a down year

1586
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 1: this year, even though Dartmouth hasn't played a game. I'm

1587
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: gonna go with what you always say to everybody when

1588
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 1: you're in Vegas. You gotta give me that mouth action.

1589
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: Go Dartmouth, Dartmouth, Cornell at Colgate, Dan, I'm going Nelly's here.

1590
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 1: Colgate also disappointing this season. So there is another Nelly,

1591
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 1: is what you're telling know there is. We'll talk about

1592
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: that one in a second. And we got Yale at

1593
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: holy Cross.

1594
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: Gonna go Cross Saders personally.

1595
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: As am I.

1596
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 2: They're fighting, and then the close things out. This is

1597
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 2: the primetime game of course.

1598
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1599
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:42,959
Speaker 2: This is Marist six pm on the road at Bucknell.

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01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're playing this one at the SkyDome. I'm gonna

1601
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: go against the Red Foxes here. I'm gonna go with

1602
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: these Nellies f the skydot. Yeah, Ty and I we're

1603
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: going to stay at the hotel attached to the SkyDome

1604
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: in preparation. YEA to this one.

1605
01:18:54,320 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 2: Shout out to the fine people of Williamsport. Who I

1606
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 2: I did get some emails about my joke last week.

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01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: Hi, I did you were authentic? You didn't like your

1608
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: experience there? It's okay. Some people like things. Some people don't.

1609
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: I did not have a good experience. I was like

1610
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 2: eight years old, so maybe it changed. You spoke your truth.

1611
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: The thing that I did speak my truth, and I

1612
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: stand by that. Yeah, very pro Little League World Series. Okay.

1613
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: The thing that I need to correct though, and the

1614
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 2: fine people of Williamsport chimed in to tell me about this.

1615
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 2: My joke was that this game is going to be

1616
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 2: at Harold Lamadi Stadium. It's Howard, not Harold. Do you

1617
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 2: get it right? I got it wrong, So to the

1618
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 2: fine people of Williamsport, a town that I have driven

1619
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,879
Speaker 2: through many times over on my way up to State college. Yeah,

1620
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: my apologies.

1621
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: Maybe you think of Harold Reynolds.

1622
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what I was thinking of.

1623
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: People like places, people don't like places. It's all right.

1624
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 1: I don't like Rino Nevada. I think the whole place

1625
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: feels like the lobby of a weird strip club, the

1626
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: whole damn place. That's okay, I'm.

1627
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: An idiot anyway. Thank you one, Thank you all for downloading,

1628
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: for listening, for supporting what we do. Don't forget to

1629
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: go on out to play runthboard dot com or Verballers

1630
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Speaker 2: dot com. If you're ever so inclined. If you want

1631
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 2: to get in on our pickam game four this week,

1632
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 2: compete for that.

1633
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred dollars gift card unless Dan scared to compete,

1634
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: unless you don't have what it takes.

1635
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 2: Unless you don't have what it takes, but otherwise special stuff.

1636
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 2: All are welcome. Stop on over again, verballers dot com,

1637
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: play run the board dot com. You know what to

1638
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 2: do in the social media front. I am not going

1639
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: to rehash that again. You know the drill. Please do

1640
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: give us a phone call eight five verbal three as

1641
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: you are watching the games this Saturday, let us know

1642
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 2: your thoughts as the action is unfolding, and then, of

1643
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 2: course stop on back on Saturday night, midnight Eastern time

1644
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 2: as we rehash all of the action. Absolutely, that is

1645
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: all I got. I'm almost out of this coffee. I

1646
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 2: am tired from a barking dog all night.

1647
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 1: I just spilled it. That's great. Is that a euphemism?

1648
01:20:59,800 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 2: No?

1649
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: Oh okay, little barking dog all night, all.

1650
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 2: Night for that guy over there, dear Steed, for myself,

1651
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 2: Tyler Rant. Thank you so much for downloading, listening, supporting

1652
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 2: what we do. Enjoy your slowdown Saturday we'll see you

1653
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: all on Saturday.

1654
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,280
Speaker 1: Take care, peace,