WEBVTT - Bobby Douglass on Justin Fields breaking records | All Access Podcast 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:04.640 The following is a presentation of the Chicago Bears Network 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:08.680 and Chicago Bears dot Com. Download the Chicago Bears official 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.680 mobile app for up to the minute Bears content every 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:16.320 day and now welcome to Bears All Access. Your all 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:21.079 access passing to Chicago Bears football. Bears All Access is 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.119 brought to you by IGS Energy and sponsored by Athletical 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:29.800 Physical Therapy and CDW. I hope you're having a great 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:32.639 Tuesday night. Jeff Joniac along my broadcast partner from news 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:36.200 radio one oh five nine WBBM, A great Chicago Bears 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.320 Super Bowl winning guard Tom Fair. As we get you 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:43.120 set for Bears Eagles, Tom, I am giddy about the matchup. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:46.680 You're playing the best team in the league on Sunday 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.960 at noon, winter blowing in strong on Sunday. It's gonna 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:53.840 be better. And the final month of the season a 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.040 lot to evaluate for our Bears. And I'm actress to 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.800 see the Eagles and live living color about you. Oh 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.320 me too. You know earlier in the season they wanted 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.960 to call the weekend after the Thursday night game a 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.480 mini bye. I don't like that term. It's just an 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.520 extended week before you prepare for your next opponent. This 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.280 is a bye, and it seems like a long time 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.240 in between games, and to have a bye this late 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.080 in the season, I hope it kind of reignited the 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.720 hunger within the players not only to stay prepared for 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:28.399 their responsibilities no matter what position they play, but get 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.960 ready for an opponent that is probably the most well 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.880 balanced team in the NFL, that's a true Super Bowl contender, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.920 and you kind of like you're saying, you want to 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.400 get a look at the Philadelphia Eagles, and you kind 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:42.880 of want to look at some positions that the Bears 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:46.679 ultimately need to become if they're getting themselves in a 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:51.080 division winning football team that has playoff in Super Bowl aspirations. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.160 Thank our producers is always Dan really, Jordan Trentip and 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.080 Sean Sears at the score Studios. Sean is an Iowa 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.640 State gay. Tom mentioned to me, how about that brock 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:05.160 Pruty Sunday that guys to talk of the league right now. Listen. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.320 I think anybody around the league that thinks, because where 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.919 you are drafted, you have no chance or you can't 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.160 be successful in the NFL is wrong because you can 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.560 go from Zach Wilson, the second pick in the draft 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.200 at the quarterback position for the Jets, or you can 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.640 go to Purdy, who is mister irrelevant. And you see 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:26.200 both of them have good players and good supporting cast, 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.440 and you see what Purty's able to do. And I 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.320 think San Francisco fan base is really excited about what 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:34.960 he's been able to do for the team, and they 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.760 believe that they can go deep into the playoffs with 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.799 him and Wilson can't even get out of the field 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.400 with an injured quarterback who's got bad ribs and Joe 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.560 Flacco backing them up. It's crazy. We got a quarterback 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.320 coming on the show in our next segment, tom the 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.600 Lefty former Chicago Bear Bobby Douglas coming up in here 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.480 at six ten or so. In a bottom of the hour, 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:56.280 the venerable voice of the Philadelphia Eagles, Merrill Reese, the 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.280 senior broadcaster in terms of service in the NFL, fell 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.119 great guy. I love them Eagles arriving on Sunday after 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.679 winning their twelfth and thirteen games. So last night of 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:10.400 the Bears Coaches Show, Tommy Mattieberflus basically unveiled what he's 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.960 looking for in the final four games. The offense, the 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.600 ability to run the football is very important to us defensively. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.320 We want to see a big jump you know in 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.560 our run defense, uh these next four weeks. To be 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.639 able to stop the run, that's one of our big 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.560 things we need to work on, you know. And then 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.440 obviously protecting the ball. You know, we got to do 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:29.680 a great job protecting the ball, not only in the 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.880 first three quarters, but also during two minutes. You know, 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.000 we got to do a better job of finishing games. 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.560 And us protecting the ball and be able to operate 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.040 in a two minute offense is going to be very 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.480 important to our success going forward. And there are two 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.360 minute defense you know, to be able to stop you know, 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.640 people two field goals or holding the zero points in 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.880 a two minute drive, you know, and get a four 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.360 and out or a takeaway to end the game. That's 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.080 something we would like to see also. But so again, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.800 that whole thing about finishing that is a team that 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:58.640 is a team goal. It's a team thing that we 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:02.600 want to really accompli here going forward and certainly improve 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.640 on as we meet these really good opponents coming up 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.280 here in the coming weeks. Now that Eagles bills Minnesota 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.640 Detroit on the mix there in the final four games, 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.520 so it kind of laid it out. That's kind of 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.880 the bye week layout. Well, you know the thing about it, 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.440 He's talks about all the team goals, which is true, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.080 that is what the team needs to accomplish. But in 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.080 order for the team to accomplish those goals, there are 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.480 certain individuals that have to play better than they've been 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.440 playing and they have to be more productive than they 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.280 have been. So it's kind of a double edged sword 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.839 there where Ultimately it's always a team goal, but there's 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.320 other guys that could finish this season on a high 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.359 note and really make an impression on the coaching staff 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.760 and the scouting staff. All right. I know people are 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.280 doing this across the different media platforms. They're trying to 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.960 zero win on some players moving into twenty twenty three. 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.280 That you want to see something out of significance here 0:04:56.279 --> 0:05:00.000 in the final four games and give me four guys. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.160 I know I'm throwing this atche out of nowhere here, 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.559 but if you want me to start it off, I will. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.560 But you know, I want to continue to see the 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.479 development of tight end cole commet, the use of cole commet. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.880 I'd like to see what Chase Cluel Claypool does here 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.679 moving forward. In the final four games, he had a 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:21.360 career high four touchdowns against this very Philadelphia team twenty 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.200 twenty version a totally different version in this one, but 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.479 he played him the week before the Bears acquired him 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.520 in that deal with Pittsburgh. And then on the defensive 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.920 side of the ball, I just want to see more 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.600 of the young players in that secondary proved that they 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.440 can be a part of the solution. You may be 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.560 finding some depth players moving forward. And then a little 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:44.440 bit more about the offensive lineman that are here. You know, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.520 everybody wants to think that the entire offensive line should 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.520 be replaced for twenty twenty three, but there's been some 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.880 good things done. Buy that offensive line. Coach Simo has 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.360 done a great job, and I want to see all 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.599 of those guys how they perform moving forward. All I 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.520 want to see Justin Justin Jones, I want to see 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.919 Dominique Robinson. I want to see Jack Sanborn, and I 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.760 want to see Jaquon Brisker on defense. Then on the 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.080 offensive side of the ball, I want to see Alex Leatherwood. 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.640 I want to see Justin Fields. I hope Khalil Herbert 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.400 comes back and provides what we've been impressed by through 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.040 the early part of the football season, and then I 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.279 want to see a Valis Jones Junior should be in 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:31.919 serious consideration for playing opportunities next year, or do you 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.400 have to make him compete and see if he can 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.360 even earn a roster spot. Yeah, Vealis a third round pick. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.880 He's been through a lot, no question his average a 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.920 kickoff return now it's twenty six nine seven on punt returns. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.640 Among the sixteen combined returns. He's had a couple of 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.160 the muffs, but nine touches on offense only three receptions. 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.480 And I really did think, and granted his preseason was 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.720 wiped out, he missed three games with a hamstring much 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.080 at camp, so a late start. Never got traction offensively 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.159 other than some of these fly sweeps and so forth, 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:06.279 but I really thought that that aspect of things, I'd 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.000 be able to see something from him in that regard 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.000 fly routes, whatever the case may be, fly patterns down 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.760 go ruts down the sidelines using that speed. So hopefully 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.400 in these next four weeks we'll get a dose of it. Well, 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.520 if we haven't seen impressions made to us by these 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.080 fly routes, these speed routes down the field. Can he 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:27.000 catch some crossing routes? Does he have the willingness to 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.000 go across the middle when there's a safety hunting you 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.640 out and being able to make a catch and compliment 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.760 an average throw by a quarterback and turn it in 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.920 to an explosive catch after the run. You talk about 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.440 the muffs on the kick, on the punt returns. Those 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:47.000 things are game costing. So he's got to bring himself 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:53.040 from a below average evaluation to impress you enough to 0:07:53.440 --> 0:08:00.400 figure when ota start and you have two hundred and 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.920 fifty reps of catching punks during the off season by 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.160 the end of the off season in the training camp, 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.560 are you so impressive at it that you don't consider 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.960 Dante pett Is still the best pump catcher on this 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.680 football team. Four returns one hundred and fourteen against Green 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.240 Bay and the kick game, plus that fifty five yarder 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.640 in Atlanta. All right, we're gonna take our first break 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.920 when we come back. Bobby Douglas due to join the program, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.400 the former Chicago Bear who has the single season rushing records. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.720 It's in dire straits, Tommy with Justin Fields tracking him 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.920 down from that nineteen seventy two season. He'll join us next. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.800 This is Bears All Access and it's brought to you 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.880 by IGS Energy with Tom Thayer. I'm Jeff Joniak on 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:49.400 Chicago Sports Radio six seventy. The Score. Back with you 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.680 on Bears All Access on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.760 to score. Jeff jony Eak and Tom Fair choose clean 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.160 energy for your home at IGS dot com because every 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.760 good choice adds up to a better world. Or will 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.320 be joined by Bobby Douglas at some point here. I 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.679 want to talk about Sam must for time because I 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.760 love the guy. Number one natural born leader, no question 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.360 about it. He's always walking talk in that locker room, 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.440 no matter the circumstances, and I love what he had 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:20.000 to say yesterday up at hallisall critically important to him 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.840 to be hard on himself as he took the bye 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.440 week and rewatched everything. Yeah, for sure. I mean you 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.680 got to sit back and honestly evaluate yourself. And it's 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.600 a continuous evaluation. That's what the NFL is. Um if 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.760 you're not getting better, you're getting worse. Like nobody stays 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.280 in the same in this league. So I had, you know, 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.280 look back that Mini bye we had that Washington week. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.800 I had looked back, and you know, where are the 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.840 games I struggle in? Where the areas that are struggled 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.600 in him? And it was it was past protection that 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.040 was that was an easy, easy thing to find. And 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.160 went back to the Giants game, watched my past sets 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.400 against Extra Lawrence. Who's I mean, you'd be hard pressed 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.000 to find a lot of guys in the NFL blocking 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.480 him one on one nowadays. But you know that's the 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.719 challenge I want, Like I alluded to her, I want 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.880 to play teams like the Philadelphia East Front seven, you 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.800 know I want. I want to pay the Kenny Clarks 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:06.440 in the NFL. I want to play the Desha Launces 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.680 on the NFL, because that's why I trained Force. I 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.520 love his attitude time me too. I've always loved Sam. 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.160 I've always been impressed woson the moment he's gone here. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.360 He's super confetitive, He's got a lot of pride in himself, 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:22.040 and I like what he does. This does four, this 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:27.520 offensive line, Fletcher Cox, Javon Hargrave and Don mckinsue, Jordan Davis, 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.120 They're all waiting for him on Sunday, all right time 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.760 now to join Bobby Douglas, the former Bears quarterback, the 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:35.560 second round pick in nineteen sixty nine out of Kansas 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.600 here on Bears All actually on Chicago Sports Radio six 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.640 sevent You to score, Bobby, Good to talk to you. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:44.120 Thanks for taking the time. How you feeling, Buddy, Good 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.440 to talk to you. Jeff and Tom. Hey, you know 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.120 obviously what's hey? Yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:54.800 Time's here for sure. UH just want to talk about, 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.680 you know, what's going on with with the uh, the 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.280 Justin Fields impact here this season, and obviously you've been 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.120 you've been doing interviews on this. I'm sure, but that 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.920 single season record is dangling by a thread for you, Buddy. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.840 I'm sure you're okay with it right now because Justin's 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.079 just coming on with with so much fire this season 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.839 with his legs and off a pretty good passing game 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.479 against Green Bay Packers. What has it been your impression 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.680 of QB one here in Chicago. Well, I've I've said 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:27.360 from the beginning, I think he's he's got tremendous upsides. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.640 I think he can throw the football, got got a 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.720 really good arm. I think the only thing he needs 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.600 from a passing standpoint, is just a more time. You know, 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.400 they got to get him an offense that works for him, 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.800 but that helps him, I should say. I mean he's 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:50.000 he can you know, obviously run anything of the pro 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:54.080 type offenses. But I think they need to also take 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:58.640 advantage of obviously as they are doing now, take advantage 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.560 of his ability to move because he can. He's as 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.200 good as anybody out there running the football. Hey, Bobby, 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.199 before I get onto the subject of justin fields and football, 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:14.080 Bobby Douglas football camp at Marmie and Military Academy. You're 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.960 you remember that back in year so this is why 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.360 this is why I bring it up, Bobby. In our 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.520 family's trophy room, the first trophy ever presented to our 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.400 family was by the Bobby Douglas football camp to my 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.000 brother Rick. And when you go back, yeah, when you 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.240 go back and you look at those types of items 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.079 and grown up as a Bears fan, I mean it 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.600 was as super inspirational in terms of my brother and 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.439 I get involved in Pop Warner football and then taking 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.439 it to the through the high school and the college 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.559 and pro levels that we are able to. And I, Bobby, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:51.000 I never forget it. And I think about the opportunity 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.559 to go there. So I just wanted to bring you 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:58.720 bring up that. Um just you know, yeah, I always 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.640 uh doing camps pretty early. Really. I actually still do 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:07.680 a little camp here in Lake Forest every year, so 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.400 I've been doing camps for a while. But no, that 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.240 that's that's uh, that makes me feel really good that 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:17.040 uh we had your brother out there. That's fabulous. Yeah, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.240 I think we ran a good camph. I really enjoyed 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.040 going out there. We only went out there two or 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.920 three years, but it was it was awesome. I was 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.840 a younger brother. I sat in the stands and watched 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.199 it and it inspired all of us. But what I 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.440 would like to ask you, Bobby, so back in the 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.880 day when you were playing quarterback, the style you played, 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.120 did you have any type of offering what would be 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:45.240 an RPO in today's offense? Well, not really. You know, 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:51.080 I really came in when quarterbacks maybe really didn't want 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.280 you to run. Uh. There are a few guys that 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:58.280 scrambled a little bit. Fran Parkington, as you know, was 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.600 uh pretty good scrambler, but he actually ended up for 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.520 the most part throwing the football. Never gained a lot 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.520 of positive yards. I kind of had to do it. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.160 We had a team that was you know, the path 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.200 blocking broke down a few times, we had lost. They 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.400 had lost a lot of players in a year or 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.720 two in those two or three years before I got there, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.760 So you know, there wasn't as strong a line as 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.000 you'd like to have, as fields would like to have, 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:32.000 you know. So I was I was a good runner, 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.040 and uh so I did a lot of scrambling and 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.680 as far as you know today, I you know, you 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.840 any quarterback you'd love but scrambled back then would love 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.440 to play today. The way the field is is suited 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:50.120 for for anybody that can move. Because they've got five 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:53.960 guys running down the field, it's spread out a lot more. 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.640 You can barely hit the quarterbacks. So I think there's 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.640 some real advantages, and I think that's why you're seeing 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:04.880 quarterbacks like Justin able to do what he does well. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.160 I think you and Vince Evans were ahead of your 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.480 time in terms of where the game is today. Do 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:15.520 you enjoy watching quarterback play and offensive football today because 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:20.360 of all the experiences that you face throughout your career. Yeah, 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.160 I mean I'm a big football fan, big basketball and 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:28.280 football fan, but I watch I watch every Pro game 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.800 all week. I don't miss one very often. I just 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.080 love the game. I think it's a great game. I 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.560 think what they've done with the rule changes has helped 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.560 the game as you as you can see now with 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:44.040 all the parody that you have in for football, it's 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.320 it's the best game there is on TV. Yeah, almost 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.520 every game goes down to the wire. Now a league 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.360 record through fourteen weeks and let it gropen up. You know, 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:54.840 it's so much more wide open than it was. Say 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.440 when I played, all Right, I gotta n for the 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.640 defensive game then yeah, wash And I want to ask 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.160 you a question about that too, by your playing career. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.760 But when you were talking about that Marmie in military camp, Tom, 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.680 a memory flashed through my head. I was actually on 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:17.400 a football field defending Bobby Douglas. Bobby, you won't you 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.760 won't remember this. This goes back to nineteen eighty seven 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.040 or eighty eight, I don't know which, when the Chicago 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.560 Bruisers were playing in Rosemond Arena football and there was 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.080 a media all Star game and Gayle Sayers was his 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:33.640 running back and Bobby Douglas was the quarterback. And I 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.760 remember trying to play, you know, tear the flag from Bobby, 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.360 who's stiff arming like he's playing some serious football here 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:44.000 against the media. The late Les Grobstein put this together. 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:45.920 He was the voice of the Bruisers. Do you have 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.600 any recollection of that, remember the Chicago Bruisers back in 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:55.520 the late eighties. Yeah, yeah, so I do. Remember. I 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.240 didn't play the game, but I was on the field 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.640 with Bobby Douglas, all six five of them, and the 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:05.000 great Gale Sayers. Uh so six five, six five football player. 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.240 Everybody lists you sixty three, but you were six five. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:12.280 You were big, dude, while the legs were I was big. Yeah, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:13.840 I was. I was a good size for that year, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.919 although there was another good sized quarterback. I mean there 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.359 were six or seven others. Actually the record that I 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.119 broke was Greg Landry. You know, Greg was about my size, 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.080 and uh you know he had the record before I 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.320 broke it. Uh I think he had about five hundred 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.560 yards and uh so, you know, there were some big quarterbacks, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.960 but I but I was. I was a little more 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.119 physical probably than some of them. But you know, the 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:42.520 underrated aspect of it, and the numbers certainly didn't reflect. 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.720 But in the game played in that era, you had 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.080 one of the league's strongest arms, and guys had a 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:53.800 hard time negotiating the heat coming off your missile, wasn't it. Well, yes, 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.800 I mean, uh, you're gonna I mean, if you if 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.920 you go back and I happen to do this because 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.880 so Actually John Hadel, I don't know if you remember John, 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.959 but just died. He just died actually, but you remember him. 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:12.400 I'm sure. Uh. John coached John Elway and uh, and 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.760 they had a little problem because you know, he had 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.520 has a great arm, had a great arm, and they 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.639 were dropping some passes. They went out and got a 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:24.840 couple of receivers because of that. Uh. Hadel told me, So, 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.480 you know, you're you have a guy that throws with 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.640 a lot more velocity with some quarterbacks do Uh, you're 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.600 gonna have guys dropping more passes. Uh. And you know 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.600 it was a It was a negative for us, But 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.320 for the most part, I was I was getting the 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.400 ball to him. It just we had a few more 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.840 dropped and we didn't throw a lot of the little 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.439 short stuff today, you know, the that make it a 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.439 lot different game. I threw the ball deep, I think 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.000 as well as anybody, So you know, that's I mean, 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.359 you know you don't play if you can't throw it. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:03.359 So you know you don't play ten twelve years if 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.680 you can't throw the football. Hey, Bobby, when you think 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.600 of today's game, where is the biggest difference in receivers? 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.119 You think it's the size of the wide receiver or 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:17.879 the multiple uses of the tight end position. Well, I 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.760 think it's a combination of a lot of things. Probably 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:26.119 the rule changes, which gives a quarterback more advantage today 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:30.239 than they had. Say, well, that all started changing in 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.000 the late seventies. I don't you remember when the blocking 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.439 rule change. Well, you're a little before that time, a 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.920 little after that you could use your hands when when 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:44.280 you came into league, correct, right, yes, you said you 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.240 couldn't do that when I came into league. So that 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:52.200 changed the game, I think, as drastically as anything other 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.960 than the fact that obviously you could you could also 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.560 get a guy anywhere on the fields until the ball 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:04.080 was in here, and that lasted through the seventies. In fact, 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.600 I don't want to get into a long an addition 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.479 of why, but that's all because of the AFL and 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.440 the fact that they were throwing the football. So the 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:17.560 game changed, and that's probably more what is happening today 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.840 because it forced everybody. You go out and you get 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.600 get guys you can catch the football, and they're throwing 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.200 the ball in college now, so guys are coming in 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.800 are much better receivers, and they're catching the ball now 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.840 in high school and guys are just they're getting better 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:38.240 athletes that are playing receivers. All right, Bobby, last question, 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.360 and we'll let you go. Appreciate the time out. We 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.320 really do take take this. We love the history, so 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.800 we love the history of the game. Give me the 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.480 worst hit you ever took and the hardest defense you 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:53.040 ever had to deal with. Well, the hardest defense was Minnesota. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:57.080 They had They had a phenomenal defense from when we 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.920 played them. Detroit was really good and green Baby was 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.320 pretty good too. It was a real good defensive league 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.800 at the time. I don't you know everybody asked me 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:11.520 that question. I don't remember ever getting hit so hard 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:14.200 that I thought about it for any length of time. 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.280 To be honest with you, I guess I was lucky, yes, 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:21.080 but no, I never never got knocked out or you 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.720 know anything like that. Well, we appreciate it. Appreciate your 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.199 time as a Chicago Bear nine hundred and sixty eight 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.520 yards in a fourteen game season. That's the record that 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.280 Justin Fields is tracking down here in a single season. 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.080 Love to see more Bears wins in the future. And 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.760 I know you think Hiley at Justin and what the 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:43.880 final for the Chicago Bears. Bobby enjoy the holidays of money, 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:45.800