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Speaker 2: That for me. I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard

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Speaker 1: And then and tie Big twelve Preview, Part three.

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Speaker 2: Then don't do that to your throat. Tie, You're you're

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Speaker 2: treading on weird territory. Come on, you gotta preserve. It's

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Speaker 2: a long season.

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Speaker 1: Tie.

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Speaker 2: It's even longer this year. We're going what week zero

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Speaker 2: through January twentieth. I know, I know, it's tastes yourself swag.

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Speaker 2: It's like a major league schedule this year, Sir. At

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Speaker 2: the beginning of episode two.

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Speaker 1: In this three part Big Twelve Previews series, last episode,

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Speaker 1: I did this weird yelp mm hmmm, and to peel

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Speaker 1: back the curtain a little bit. We're recording all three

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Speaker 1: of our Big twelve previews on the same day, back

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Speaker 1: to back to back. Yes, I felt the voice start

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Speaker 2: You're just gonna feel a lot of emotions and it's

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that's right. Well, look,

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Speaker 1: welcome back one and all. Hopefully you had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: the power conferences. We still also have to talk about

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Speaker 1: good month of August. But as for today, it is

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Speaker 1: part three. We're going to be talking about Kansas, Arizona

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Speaker 1: Upside I think there's a lot of change. I I

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Speaker 2: But they don't have two good quarterbacks. Nobody has two

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Speaker 2: They did last It was an accident. It was an accident.

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Speaker 1: It was a happy accident, and Jalen Daniels has been

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Speaker 2: Eight point one? We're in there. Yeah, readly they're a contender. Look,

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Speaker 2: this is what they lose. They lose key dudes up front,

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Speaker 1: No, I've I think we're running out of whatever the

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Speaker 2: When I say this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the floor is still high. I think

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Speaker 2: on Cincinnati as an improving team. Your Brendan Soresby's sales

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be better this year. I absolutely

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Speaker 2: I'm Anybodarely Towson, Pitt Miami of Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I think it's It's not like

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Speaker 2: of buffaloes? Oh, okay, Colorado buffaloes.

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Speaker 1: You know that there are people out there listening, waiting

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Speaker 2: Three and a half people here we go.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's many more than that, and you

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Speaker 1: It is certainly among the most polarizing in college football

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Speaker 1: because of how Dion is building this roster. It is

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Speaker 1: Here is what I'd like to do, Okay, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a long preamble, long wind up, by apologies.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate what Dion did last year. I appreciate that

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Speaker 2: In prime prep season tickets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do not interpret my skepticism, Dan's skepticism. Do not

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pump sunshine. We owe it to everybody

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Speaker 2: I'm not done yet.

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Speaker 1: We owe it to everybody to be honest here. Now,

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Speaker 1: out there who leave these comments. I care, don't care.

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Speaker 1: You don't care.

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Speaker 2: How late YouTube commentors.

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Speaker 1: Just that kid slip.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you just you came across as very defensive, which

438
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Speaker 2: is not anything Colorado has come across. Okay, Colorado football,

439
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: they have a good quarterback. I think their line is

440
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Speaker 2: largely going to be below average, maybe improved because it

441
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: has to improve because Doorg Sanders was knocked around a

442
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Speaker 2: lot last year. I still think they're relatively thin everywhere

443
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Speaker 2: on the field. They might have the best overall athlete

444
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Speaker 2: in the sport in Travis Hunter, who I don't know

445
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Speaker 2: how much receiver he's going to play this year, hopefully

446
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Speaker 2: some because he can be quite electric, but I want

447
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Speaker 2: him to stay healthy, you know. Unfortunately, he had the

448
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Speaker 2: hits that he took against Colorado State last year that

449
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Speaker 2: took him out for a chunk of the year. They've

450
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Speaker 2: recruited some good, two very good players in the portal

451
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Speaker 2: like legit, like bj Green and Dan Hayes. Along the

452
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Speaker 2: defensive line, I think is a plus for any team

453
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Speaker 2: in the sport. I don't think the offensive lineman that

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Speaker 2: they brought in are going to make a huge difference.

455
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Speaker 2: Maybe they're they're like their floor is higher, they're more competent.

456
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Speaker 2: I think with Dalan Hayden, the running back transfer from

457
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Speaker 2: Ohio State, I think he's good. I think he's a

458
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Speaker 2: good player. I think we're going to see him prove

459
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Speaker 2: Colorado team. I don't think it's going to be a

460
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Speaker 2: Colorado team we're talking about in November. I think because

461
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Speaker 2: of depth, and you talk about well, we won't talk

462
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Speaker 2: about the recruiting strategy per se, but the number of

463
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Speaker 2: bodies along the lines that are of you know, upper

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Speaker 2: half of a Power conference level, I think it's still lacking.

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Speaker 2: I think, whatever you think of his recruiting strategy or

466
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Speaker 2: don't think of his recruiting strategy, teams that improve stockpile guys,

467
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Speaker 2: and Colorado hasn't been. You know, they bring an upperclassmen,

468
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Speaker 2: they bring in guys from power programs, or whatever, many

469
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Speaker 2: of whom weren't huge difference makers. So my feeling is

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Speaker 2: we're going to get a better version of what we

471
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Speaker 2: saw from Colorado last year, but in terms of winning

472
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Speaker 2: eight nine ten games, even in a conference that's not

473
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Speaker 2: as good as one that they played in last year.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, in terms of quarterbacks and star power faced,

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna be fine. I think I think

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Speaker 2: they're going to you know, they're probably going to be

477
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Speaker 2: a bowl team this year. Again, step in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: You'd rather move forward than not. I think Colorado's moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're dramatically moving forward. I think given

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Speaker 2: their schedule, which, by the way, I love you can

481
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Speaker 2: you can put this and take a toa the opening

482
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Speaker 2: night or what is a Thursday Friday night game against

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Speaker 2: North Dkota State? Why births it's a weeknight game, right,

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Speaker 2: I believe so the North Dakota State game, Yeah, on

485
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Speaker 2: August thirty first. Maybe I don't know that's what it

486
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Speaker 2: says in front of me. I forget the exact day,

487
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Speaker 2: but I think North Dakota State became a little bit

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Speaker 2: more ordinary last year and to get single digits when

489
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Speaker 2: Colorado should be as healthy as they're going to be

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Speaker 2: all season long, and are going to treat that game

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Speaker 2: like it's a huge, huge deal. Given so many eyeballs

492
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Speaker 2: are going to be on Colorado early. I think they're

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Speaker 2: gonna win that game by you know, three touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: So you're you're heavy on Colorado minus what and eight

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Speaker 1: and a half something like that. Whatever it is against

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Speaker 1: North Dakota State, I like that. I like that.

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Speaker 2: So I think their schedule is such like, okay in

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Speaker 2: front of me right now, it's at Nebraska the week

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Speaker 2: after that. I think that's going to be very challenging

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Speaker 2: because Nebraska will have a little bit of time with

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Speaker 2: Dylan Royola to sort of figure things out. I think

502
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Speaker 2: the defense once again should be good for Nebraska, but

503
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Speaker 2: Colorado blew them out last year. Different quarterback, different situation,

504
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Speaker 2: but that game got away from Nebraska quickly. If the

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Speaker 2: Huskers don't turn the ball over, I think they're going

506
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Speaker 2: to be in good shape in that one. At UCF tricky,

507
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Speaker 2: but they can run right at UCF. We'll see if

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Speaker 2: they're improved by then. They have a buye before Kansas State,

509
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Speaker 2: which is at home advantageous. They're at Arizona. We'll see

510
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Speaker 2: what Arizona's defense looks like by then, you know, I'm

511
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Speaker 2: not crazy high on Texas Tech, which is on the

512
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Speaker 2: road ahead of Utah, which will be very challenging. Kansas,

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Speaker 2: I think will be a challenge, but again, you might

514
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Speaker 2: be able to run right at Kansas and Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 2: I think the best of Colorado is a team that

516
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Speaker 2: can win a bunch of these games. My problem is

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Speaker 2: I still think they're very thin. They might be starting

518
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Speaker 2: a true fresh at left tackle. Like, I just think

519
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Speaker 2: there are too many spots where you can take advantage

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Speaker 2: of Colorado on both sides of the ball. I think

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Speaker 2: their linebackers are just okay, you know, they are a

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Speaker 2: couple of I mean, Travis Hunter is obviously more than

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Speaker 2: just a guy in the secondary. He's very, very good

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Speaker 2: as a corner. But there are just too many soft

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Speaker 2: spots on this Colorado roster. Still to me that like

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Speaker 2: if youre Sanders goes down, the offense is completely done.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't think they have a capable backup. And

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Speaker 2: it's fine. You can say that about a ton of teams,

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Speaker 2: right that if the starting quarterback goes down, But like

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Speaker 2: if you say that about Kansas, you can still run

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Speaker 2: it with Devin Neil. Right, I still think the Lion's

532
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Speaker 2: going to be fine. I still trust Lance Leipold and

533
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Speaker 2: Jeff Grimes to cobble together a new plan. Do I

534
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Speaker 2: trust Pat Shermer? Not necessarily, I would not be super excited.

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Speaker 2: Pat Shermer were Oregon's offensive coordinator. So I am. I'm

536
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Speaker 2: in on Colorado improvement, I'm in on Colorado interesting. I'm

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Speaker 2: out on Colorado as anything more than a first half threat. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I just think they don't think they're built for it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what you trade in. Sorry, no roster talk,

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00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: no roster building conversation, but the reality of their roster is.

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Speaker 2: I still think it's like surface level. And you know,

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Speaker 2: if an outside linebacker gets hurt, teams are going to

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Speaker 2: go straight at that guy. Right, if they're starting a

544
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Speaker 2: backup left guard, he is going to be pummeled on

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Speaker 2: a weekly basis. And I don't think they have it.

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Speaker 1: I worry because the line is completely new. Yeah, I

547
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Speaker 1: worry about depth. The You know, the unquestioned strength of

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Speaker 1: the team is the passing game with Shador Sanders, and

549
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Speaker 1: they've got a talented stable of wide receivers with of

550
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Speaker 1: course led by Travis Hunter to whatever end he plays receiver.

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Speaker 1: But Jimmy Horn, So Jimmy Horn Lejonte Wester. I almost

552
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Speaker 1: said Webster Wester who comes over from Florida Atlantic, Will

553
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Speaker 1: Shepherd who comes to the big transfer from Vandy. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I think skill position wise, they're in a really

555
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: good place.

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Speaker 1: They're a really good spot there. But and the defense,

557
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Speaker 1: like the defense, I do think should be better, and

558
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: I can see a bowl, but it is I think

559
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: a tricky year schedule for a team with line questions

560
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: and so much new on defense. It's I don't know.

561
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Speaker 1: The season comes down to games at Nebraska and Colorado

562
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Speaker 1: State and UCF and Texas Tech and at home against

563
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Speaker 1: Baylor and Sincy and North Dakota State in week one.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of wiggle room in there.

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Speaker 1: There were four and eight a year ago. Vegas has

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Speaker 1: the over under at five and a half. I'd be

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Speaker 1: inclined to go over. I'm not betting that. You said

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Speaker 1: five and a half, five and a half, I'm rooting

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Speaker 1: for it. I'm not betting it. Too much variability here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a universe in which they start off

571
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Speaker 2: super hot. Right, all these games are vaguely winnable. They

572
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Speaker 2: should be able to win at Colorado State. It's sort

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Speaker 2: of a toss up to me. Nebraska. They should be

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Speaker 2: able to beat North Dakota State. Baylor is at home

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Speaker 2: at UCF. I think is going to be tricky, But

576
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Speaker 2: you know, starting out the season like four and one

577
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Speaker 2: is not crazy.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to my favorite team, Okay, Iowa State State

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Speaker 1: seven and six. Last year they lost to Memphis and

580
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Speaker 1: the Liberty Bowl. I think, as I said back in

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Speaker 1: part one, the Iowa State is extremely easy to overlook

582
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: this year because not the sexiest, not the biggest team

583
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: in the news, not the biggest headline in the conference.

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Speaker 1: Probably Colorado, Okay, probably Colorado. I think Iowa State is

585
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Speaker 1: dangerous because Matt Campbell's got pretty much the whole team back.

586
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Luggins. Got off to rocky start last year,

587
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Speaker 1: grew into itself as the year went on. Rock O

588
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: Beck was originally not going to be the starter, but

589
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Speaker 1: he ended up as the Big twelve Freshman of the year. Also,

590
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Speaker 1: Abu Sama exploded for well.

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Speaker 2: I really liked him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two hundred and seventy six yards and farm again

593
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Speaker 1: in the Snow Bowl, slated again to be the top

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Speaker 1: back this year. Everyone is back but the tight end

595
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Speaker 1: on offense. The other note on Roco beckt I went

596
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: through the adduls of college football over at Sports Reference.

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00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't believe it's all inclusive. I think it's just

598
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Speaker 1: mostly the modern history of the sport, but certainly most

599
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: of the modern guys are in there, since like the seventies.

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Speaker 1: There are thirteen players in that database with the first

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Speaker 1: name of Roco, and he is already the best one.

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00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: You're saying best Roco ever, best Roco ever? You've heard of?

603
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: The goat Dan so Freddy, I would like to say

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Speaker 1: that Roco Bect is the bore.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Roco Bect is the bore.

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Speaker 1: He's the best of all Rocos.

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Speaker 2: The best of all Rocos.

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Speaker 1: Not the goat. He is the boor. I want to

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Speaker 1: see the boor emoji out there online.

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Speaker 2: Is there a bar like I just pig or? Is

611
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Speaker 2: there actually like a wild?

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Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no, there's a bore. There is a boar.

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Speaker 1: I want to see that next to Roco Beck's name.

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Speaker 1: Who is the second best? Oh? I don't know. Okay,

615
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: there was there was a Roco Spindler or something for

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. None of the Rocos have been of much

617
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Speaker 1: consequence Serabic guys whose last name have been Roco, but

618
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Speaker 1: not first. There have been rock eas but Roco Roco

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Speaker 1: Beck is officially the Bore.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, Ty, not so fast. Okay. There is a

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Speaker 2: Colorado State linebacker named Roco Shram Scram if I've pronounced

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Speaker 2: it incorrectly. Roco Shram in twenty twenty three and I

623
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Speaker 2: quote red shirt freshman season, did not see any action,

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. Big mystery at Colorado State continue.

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Speaker 1: At a minimum.

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Speaker 2: He is the current boar, current boar. Yeah, I kind

627
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Speaker 2: of liked that they've I mean, they had a quarterback between,

628
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Speaker 2: but to go from Brock to Rock, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It's not bad. Originally I called it. I called him

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Speaker 1: the Gore, the greatest of all. Solid wife Kate said,

631
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Speaker 1: why don't you go boor? Yeah, you got to come

632
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Speaker 1: up with a different animals.

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Speaker 2: So he is, He's the boor.

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Speaker 1: Rock Obeck. But no Nate Stielhouse, no Nate Shieldhouse, no

635
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Speaker 1: Nate Shielhouse.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: They've promoted from within, and we'll see how that has

638
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: any kind of effect in their offense. Defensively, like We've

639
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: come to trust John Heacock defensive coordinator. This was a

640
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: top twenty unit last year. All but two starters are

641
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: back this season. Eight got to do more upfront, in

642
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: particular where the pass rush was a bit lacking. More

643
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: of those havoc plays that we talk about a lot

644
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: would be a big deal for this offense. But they

645
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: should be really solid. Again, They're always solid, So I

646
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: think Gywas State's extremely dangerous because the coaching staff can

647
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: develop talent. I think this team's a really good position.

648
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,959
Speaker 1: I think to start five and oh this year. Where

649
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: the danger comes into play is if they can't get

650
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: more out of the running game, or if if there

651
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: are hiccups like with the coordinator change. Taylor Mouser is

652
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: the guy who is promoted from being tight end coach

653
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: to taking over for Nate shield House. Also in November,

654
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: I think November gets really tricky if you look at

655
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: the schedule. They got the Syhawk game in September, but

656
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: that's obviously a non con game. But there's Roague game

657
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: at West Virginia, a home game against UCF after their

658
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: second by It's Texas Tech at Kansas home against Cincinnati

659
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: at Utah close out at home against k State, which

660
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: is tricky again.

661
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: I mean that the whole having Utah and k State there.

662
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 2: It's a tough schedule to me. Well maybe not tough,

663
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: but it's a challenging schedule. I like that receiving duel

664
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, Hagans and nol Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

665
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 2: Believe in the bore. Believe in the bore. The beck

666
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: of all Rocos.

667
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Could do that too, if you want whatever. Believe in

668
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: the boar of the over runners seven and a half.

669
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it. I like

670
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 1: Iowa State a lot. I can see why you would

671
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: go under, because the schedule does get tricky the later

672
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: you go. But I think they took their lumps early

673
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: part of last year, they grew because of it, and

674
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: now they are a legit contender in this conference. They

675
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: really are. I like them.

676
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody wants a part of Iowa State.

677
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: I think they're one of the like three most complete

678
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: teams in the conference. If they're able to generate those

679
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: big plays once again, and Abu Sama average like seven

680
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: yards of carry, so now that he's the guy, if

681
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: they're building the running game out of him, it should

682
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: be better. It should absolutely be better because this was

683
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: it was sort of an all or nothing right running game.

684
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: Last year it was like Bryce love Stanford, like terribly inefficient,

685
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: never did anything, but when he got a little bit

686
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: of a crazy he went for ninety one. So maybe

687
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: there's some something to that with Iowa State and I

688
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: guess with Oklahoma State as well.

689
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of running games, let me shift gears. We talk

690
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 1: about it. Another running attack here. West Virginia over under

691
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: six and a half nine wins. Last year they won

692
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: the Duke's Mayo Bowl. Neil Brown got a contract extension

693
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: and it was one of the great stories in college football.

694
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: Last season. He seemed like a dead man walking going

695
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: into year five and he.

696
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: Tore up the script.

697
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: He started over played to the strength of his roster.

698
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: It worked famously. So he gets the contract and now

699
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: this is a team I think we consider in a

700
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: brand new light. Okay, there are like four or five

701
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: teams in this conference whose defensive line is not a liability,

702
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: and that makes West Virginia and its power rushing attack

703
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: a really tough matchup.

704
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: I agree.

705
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: You've got CJ. Donaldson, who's a bruiser. You've got Jaheem White,

706
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: who is more of a scat back, a lot of

707
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: scot through potential at five to seven.

708
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, sire, you score through, Yeah, and you.

709
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: Got Garak Green. You got Gagreen, the quarterback who ran

710
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: for over seven hundred yards and thirteen touchdowns last year.

711
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: So a little bit of a Utah situation. Stylistically, they're

712
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: just different than the rest of the league. That makes

713
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: them interesting. Overlook this team at your peril. This is

714
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: a good running team. They're always a tough out because

715
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: they can control the clock. They minimize their risk through

716
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: the air. They will wear you down. Also Garrett Green.

717
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: No, they pop big plays to the air, but it's

718
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: more the consistency.

719
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: Garrick Green is not going to put up pinball numbers,

720
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: but it feels like a lot of the passes that

721
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: he completed last year went for game changing plays. He's

722
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: a big play waiting to happen.

723
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

724
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: I like this team a lot interesting. I like them

725
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: a lot. Now here's the caveat six and a half

726
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: over under, Why so loo good team looks like they've

727
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: got all the ingredients. It's because of the schedule. So

728
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: they don't play Utah, but they play Penn State. They're

729
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: at pit for the backyard Brawl Rivalry, play Kansas at home.

730
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: They're at Oklahoma State, they play Iowa State, they play

731
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: Kansas State. They're at Arizona, They're at Cincinnati, they play Baylor,

732
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: they play UCF, and they're at Texas Tech. That's brutal.

733
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: That's why the over under are six and a half.

734
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: I think this could be a team that's better but

735
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: has a worse record because the schedule is so damn brutal.

736
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: I do have some defensive questions. That's like, it's not

737
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: a terrible defense from a year ago, but certainly there's

738
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: room to grow. They went nuts in recruiting defensive backs

739
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: via the portal to come in and beef up the secondary.

740
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: They seem to like where they're at in the front seven,

741
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: and they can improve one thing. Dan, Yeah, I'd like

742
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: to see him play better defense on first and second

743
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: down because the number that jumped off the page to

744
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: me was seventy percent of the time last season, West

745
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: Virginia's opponents were getting a first down on first or

746
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: second down. It wasn't a bad third down defense. It

747
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: was a bad defense at getting two third down right.

748
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't even giving their defense a chance to get

749
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: the third down and make a stop, So they got

750
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: to try and get better in those early downst I

751
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: think that would make the defense a lot better. So

752
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: between the schedule and like some of the defensive questions

753
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: I have, I'm staying away from the over under, but

754
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: potentially some value on West Virginia if you believe in

755
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: the Neil Brown project and what he's building there. I

756
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: want a root for this team. I want them to

757
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: have a better win loss record or get back to

758
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: where they were a year ago. But I just don't

759
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: see it. I'm not optimistic of that because of the schedule.

760
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: But look, it's it's a very potent offense because they

761
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: play differently and because they've got the pieces of play differently.

762
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see what they can do.

763
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. My counterpoint is, I think they played one top

764
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: fifty defense last season in Oklahoma as people ask, the

765
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: points per drive whatever in conference? Yeah in conference, Yeah,

766
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: they open with Penn State, who had a top defense.

767
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 2: But it's especially starting. So they beat TCU fifty four,

768
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: Texas Tech fifty, Houston one to oh two, Oklahoma State

769
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: sixty nine. Nice you see fifty three You ninety four,

770
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's the top fifty, Cincy eighty three, Baylor one oh three,

771
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: North Carolina seventy eight. Good teams take advantage of susceptible teams,

772
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: vulnerable teams. That's what West Virginia did last year. I

773
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: just think it's your Ashanti thing, like, how much do

774
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: you trust West Virginia step forward? Last year? Having to

775
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: do with West Virginia specifically, I trust some of the

776
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: offensive skill, I trust the ability to close out tough games,

777
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: but also if some of these defenses are improved this year,

778
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: does West Virginia regress a little bit?

779
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: That's all I trust it insofar as it was the plan.

780
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: Last year. They went into the season, they tore up

781
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: the script, and the narrative about Neil Brown going into

782
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: year five was how many times we're going to freaking

783
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: do this? How many times we're going to tear up

784
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: the script before we actually get to something that works.

785
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: Of course it works last year he gets a contract extension,

786
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: And I like that they're steering into that. If they

787
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: found something that worked for them, they established an identity,

788
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: they built the whole plane out of it, and it

789
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: worked to nine wins in a Bowl win. Yeah, so

790
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: I like that it feels directionally like it's going somewhere

791
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: and like they can build on last season. But the schedule,

792
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: some of the defensive questions that I mentioned, I don't

793
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: think they're getting back to nine wins. They could go

794
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: over six and a half, but getting back to nine

795
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: to me, feels like a bit of a stretch.

796
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: Maybe CJ. CJ. Donaldson, excuse me, another few months, another

797
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: year removed from that big injury from a couple of

798
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: years ago. He wasn't He didn't flash in the way

799
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: that I think a lot of us expected him to

800
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: last year. Maybe there were some lingering effects there. They've

801
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 2: got a really killer backfield.

802
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: Okay, TCU dan five and seven last year in their

803
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: follow up campaign after making it to the National Championship

804
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: against Georgia. Yeah, over under seven and a half a

805
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: lot back, tough schedule.

806
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: How optimistic.

807
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: Should we be? Why is TCU dangerous this year? Is

808
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: TCU more dangerous this year?

809
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: Maybe? Okay? So I think their defense is at least

810
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: mysterious enough that dangerous is a possibility. Right That they

811
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: brought in the transfers that they bring in, hopefully to

812
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: shore up the pass rush. Eric McAllister comes any who remember,

813
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: leaves Boise and late October early November decided to enter

814
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: the portal with by far Boise's best receiver last year.

815
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: So he's a big weapon for Josh Hoover and the offense.

816
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: They're going to throw the ball. Obviously it's a Sunny

817
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: Dike's team. We'll see, you know, It's one of those

818
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: things TCU should be better because there was just going

819
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: to be a fall off from what they lost year

820
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: to year. The degree twitch Max Duggan carried TCU a

821
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: couple of years ago that anything short and you know,

822
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 2: just wasn't gonna happen. With Chandler Morris. You know, Josh

823
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: Hoover had moments he was able to throw in the

824
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: Texas secondary like there, he put them in position to

825
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: win multiple times. And so that's something I just think

826
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: if you're TCU and you have grand designs of being

827
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: in that at least the top group, right there's no

828
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: reason TCU, the best of TCU shouldn't be in that

829
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: contender conversation, and they're not. There's just not right now

830
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: because of the depths to which that defense fell and

831
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 2: the defense improved over the course of twenty twenty two

832
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: when they made their run, they were able to adjust,

833
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: they were able to get a lot of speed in

834
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: interesting places, and fell off a cliff last year. So

835
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: I think it's fair to assume they're gonna better. It's

836
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 2: fair to assume that Andy Avlos will get creative with

837
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: this defense. I think the big thing is if they

838
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: can run the ball next year, Like that was kind

839
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: of the secret sauce a couple of years ago, how

840
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: they were able to run the ball. Two three quality backs.

841
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: If they're able to control the ball, keep the defense

842
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: off the field a little bit, because they're not particularly deep.

843
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: I think the back half of that defense should be good,

844
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: but upfront is still a mystery. I think TCU is

845
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: like the quintessential Big twelve wild card right now because

846
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: of an ability to pass the ball. Maybe a mysteriously

847
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: good defense, but you're gonna need to see a lot

848
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: of evidence these first five six weeks before you fully

849
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: believe into the changes TCU is instituted. They open at Stanford. Look,

850
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: there's a lot of like opportunities on this schedule for

851
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: TCU in terms of the defenses they faced. They're at Stanford, UCF,

852
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: at SMU, and the Skillet game. Who I think the

853
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: defense is a little overrated. I know you have your

854
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: your Mustang goggles on in Kansas City. Against Kansas, I

855
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be very difficult. And then they have

856
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: a stretch at the end again, like I don't know

857
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 2: what these defenses are going to hold at Utah should

858
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: be good, Texas Tech should be fine, at Baylor probably improved,

859
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State probably okay, and they have a buy before Arizona.

860
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: Like it's a tough stretch, But I think there's an

861
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: element to TCU that they could be the team others

862
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: worry about by that. So I'm buying TCU improvement. I'm

863
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: not buying on I'm not buying dramatic TCO.

864
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: Is Josh Hoover a backup quality quarterback?

865
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think to See is another

866
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: one of these schools. When you look at the quarterbacks

867
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: that they've had, I think Josh Hoover's better than Baron Morton.

868
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: But they're another one of those schools. All due respect

869
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: to the bore Rock obect, I just think there are

870
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: a lot of Like I think Josh Hoover would be

871
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: like a like a really interesting LSU backup, Okay, and

872
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I'm not there with him,

873
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: happy to be wrong, but I think there's a very

874
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: specific ceiling to the Frogs this year at like seven wins.

875
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't have much more to add. I feel similarly,

876
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: I think they'll be better, and I think there's a

877
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: reason that the over under has gone up. It's seven

878
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: and a half, or I should say, up from their

879
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: five wins last season. Right. The degree to which though

880
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: they're actually improved, I think is kind of the open question. Yeah,

881
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

882
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: Jathie Richardson's good, Like I think, I think they.

883
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: Got better from a roster standpoint. I think with what's

884
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: coming in it's better, but I not dramatically, so I

885
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: think is the right approach, right, Okay, round this out.

886
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: Let's close out all things big twelve by talking about

887
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: the Baylor Bears. Okay, Baylor was three to nine last year.

888
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: It was really bad, really bad, and the ninety seventh

889
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: best team in the country per the sp plus seventy

890
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 1: eighth on offense, one hundred and third on defense. Goes

891
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: without saying some things were broken, yeah, and then there

892
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: are other things that just didn't make sense. So, for example,

893
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: the offensive line. The offensive line replaced a lot from

894
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. They were very young last year. That

895
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: shows up in the stats. If your battle on the line,

896
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: it's tough to get consistent quarterback play, it's hard to

897
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: build a running game. They were one hundred and seventeenth

898
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 1: in the nation with just three point three yards per carry.

899
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Speaker 1: Also Phil Steele, who gave me the some of the

900
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Speaker 1: wrong information, which I will hold it against him on

901
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: Thomas Castianos. Yeah, love Phil, He's been on the show.

902
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: Seven three three eighty.

903
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: Phil Steele in his preview this year asked Dave Randa, Hey,

904
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Speaker 1: why didn't Richard Reeds get the ball more? Richard Reese

905
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two was Big twelve Freshman of the Year,

906
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Speaker 1: I want to say. David Randa said, well, the offense

907
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: didn't really fit him, which is kind of a giant shrug.

908
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: Isn't it like to have that guy to just not

909
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: utilize him? But okay, whatever, we've arrived at now this

910
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: new inflection point for Dave Randa where he is forced

911
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: to make big changes again, just like he was after

912
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: his first year. So for one, Jeff Grimes is gone.

913
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: Baylor was extremely young last season, basically brings back its

914
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: entire team. So what do they do now he's gone out?

915
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: He's hired Jake's bavitoal new offensive coordinator comes down from Cal.

916
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: He is switching to the spread offense with tempo and

917
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Speaker 1: an inside zone running scheme, which should work better for

918
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Speaker 1: the personnel.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

920
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: His system is also the main reason why they were

921
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Speaker 1: able to get the Kwan Finn. The kwan Finn cited

922
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Speaker 1: specifically the spav spread system as his reason for going

923
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: to Baylor and alto transfer alda transfer who we love,

924
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: We've loved for a while. I'm excited to see what

925
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Speaker 1: he can do in a bigger plays. The inside zone

926
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: should work better with Richard Reese. I think it's a

927
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Speaker 1: more favorable system for him. The receiver room is pretty deep.

928
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: I am extremely optimistic that the offense is going to

929
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: improve very quickly. Spavitol has a good track record for that.

930
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: It is dependent on line play though they were battle

931
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: on the lines last year, so they need to get

932
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: better along the lines in order to really like unlock

933
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: this thing and make it better. But inevitably, because of

934
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Speaker 1: the spav system, you will see some numbers get goosed.

935
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Speaker 1: It's just the way he works. The other big change

936
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: that David Randa is going to be taking over play

937
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: calling on the defense. It is his specialty. Ironically, it

938
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Speaker 1: is the thing I'm also most concerned about this season

939
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: because there's a fair amount that is gone TJ. Franklin

940
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: and Gabe Hall and Matt Jones. Is also a lot back,

941
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: and they did do pretty well plugging in the gaps

942
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: via the portal. They score really well on the returning

943
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: production gauge. I just don't know how much I should

944
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: really trust that.

945
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty six nationally in points per drive

946
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Speaker 2: all out continue.

947
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about, right, So it's like a

948
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: lot back. But is that a good thing. I'll get

949
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: back to you. Dave Randa is the defensive mastermind that

950
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: everybody was championing for eons before he got to Baylor

951
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: and even after he got to Baylor, like he has

952
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: been able in Spotsonson Lsu Yeah, in spots to be incredible.

953
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: He was getting NFL hype for a while because of

954
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: what he could do on the defensive side of the ball.

955
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: If he is the mastermind we believed and maybe still

956
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: believe him to be he should be able to make

957
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: this unit better. They can't get any Dan worse. Yeah, okay,

958
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: so some things in conflict there. I like Randa calling

959
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: the plays. I have faith in him. He's made big

960
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: changes once. Hopefully he can make them again and make

961
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: this team better. That said, I hate Baylor schedule. Okay,

962
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: it sucks. Road games at Utah, Colorado, Iowa State, Texas, Tech,

963
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: West Virginia, and Houston. Air Force is a home sandwich

964
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: game that they could lose.

965
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: The Baylor Utah game is not a conference game, right, I.

966
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: Believe believe so. I don't believe so.

967
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 2: I think it was a pre scheduled home and home

968
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: that they're counting as non conference.

969
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: Right, but even still, it's still a hard game.

970
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree.

971
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: Air Force is a sandwich game. BYU is a sandwich game.

972
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: They've also got Oklahoma State at home. They close out

973
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: the year with Kansas at home. Who put this together?

974
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: Why is this a schedule that exists?

975
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: That's tough man brutal.

976
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: The over runners five and a half. I wouldn't touch

977
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: it with a ten foot poll. I could see him

978
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: getting there. I think they should improve, if only because

979
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: they were so young last season. Here is a crazy

980
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: stat from our friend Brett sianco Over at Pick six Previews. Okay,

981
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: Baylor freshmen last year played over forty five hundred snaps,

982
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: which is more than a thousand above the next highest

983
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve jees, so they were extraordinarily young.

984
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: That's a lot of snaps by underclassmen freshman. No less,

985
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: that means you whiffed on a lot recruiting if you're

986
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: playing the resh Yeah, I guess you know. I don't

987
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: know how you interpret that.

988
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: That's not a good thing.

989
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: Eye popping stat that Brett pulled out.

990
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

991
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: If things do not improve, a Rand is gone. He'll

992
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: be somebody else's defensive coordinator next season. So he's on

993
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: a short leash. We're in the playoff air, the expanded

994
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: playoff era. Now, Baylor built a new stadium, They're in Texas,

995
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: proximity to talent. They fashioned themselves as a contender in

996
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: this confertference. If not for the playoff, you gotta get better.

997
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: If there is not market improvement, Cyanara, a Rand is

998
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: out of there, sure, So that's where I'm at. It's

999
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of a push pull. Should be better.

1000
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: The schedule could make it worse. A lot rides on

1001
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: this defense and a Rando's ability to coach it up.

1002
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: And you think Tarltan's going to be a big threat.

1003
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: You said you have a positional breakdown.

1004
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that'll be part six of the Uh yeah,

1005
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: part six, Part four of the preview.

1006
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: No, let's tell part six. Uh yeah. I think Baylor's

1007
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: gonna be improved. I think they can go to a

1008
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: bowl game. I think six and six is reasonable. It's just, yeah,

1009
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: you're right, tough schedule.

1010
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: Schedule sucks, it's horrible. Yeah, who did this to them?

1011
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: It's the Utah thing. They do, the home and home

1012
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: with Utah, and so that is just part of their

1013
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: their non conference schedule, even though they're in the same conference.

1014
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: Interpoll is after the guy who made the schedule brutal.

1015
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 2: They return a lot though they do like but Gary

1016
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: Baldwin flashed a couple of years ago. You mentioned Richard Reese, like,

1017
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 2: there are enough pieces here.

1018
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: There are there are And if the Kwan Finn pops

1019
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 1: in this system, sure, if he pops like that, Baylor

1020
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: could be very easy to undervalue this season because there's

1021
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: a lot back. Because I do think they did a

1022
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: good job, a good enough job in the portal. But

1023
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where to put this team.

1024
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm really having a hard time put my finger on

1025
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: how optimistic to be about the Bears this year.

1026
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just quarterbacks jumping up a level. Even if

1027
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: it's just G five to you know, one of the

1028
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 2: power conferences, let alone fcs. It's just it's a rare

1029
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: smooth continuation.

1030
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: It just is speaking of smooth continuations.

1031
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: Okay, up next, it's the SEC.

1032
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:58,720
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Speaker 1: How's your voice doing, By the.

1043
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: Way, I've been drinking some tea. Uh, it's okay. I'm

1044
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: happy that we're not recording for a few days. Give

1045
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: it some chance to rest.

1046
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: I just felt the pain in this side, which is

1047
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: usually what happened. Starts going yeah, right here, I'm pointing

1048
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 1: on camp right there, that's the keys. But the first

1049
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: time I got this pain is when we did the

1050
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: History of the Solid Verbal show a couple of years

1051
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: back at your old apartment in Brooklyn. That was when

1052
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: I got it, and I drove home and my throat

1053
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: swelled up and I've had throat issues ever since. So

1054
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: hopefully it wasn't Baylor that did me in here.

1055
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: I just got to do a lot of gentle parenting

1056
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: the few days. No, like the shed, I said, get

1057
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: off the ship, so I have to be like, hey,

1058
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: I hear you.

1059
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Speaker 1: You're not a yeller, are you? I'm not really, You're

1060
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: not an angry pert softy yea. All right? Well, look,

1061
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,040
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1065
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Speaker 1: energy here into these preseason previews. Hopefully it shows and

1066
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: the work we've done. Hopefully there weren't any dumb mistakes here,

1067
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: but if there were, we've got the losing horn that

1068
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Speaker 1: we can play. Yeah, So that does it for that

1069
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Speaker 1: guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein. From myself,

1070
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Speaker 1: Tie hildon Brand, thank you for bearing with us. All

1071
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Speaker 1: three parts of this available, two big power conferences, Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame and some others still to go. We're about halfway through,

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Speaker 1: excited to see what comes next for Dan Rubenstein. I'm

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Speaker 1: tie hildon Brand. As always, they saw peace