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Speaker 1: Welcome in second hour of play and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 1: right now. We just had Senator Kane, remember him, He

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Speaker 1: was gonna be Hillary's vice president? Remember that that didn't

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Speaker 1: go over so well.

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Speaker 2: Who is going to have a more distinguished career after

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Speaker 2: Walls who would have been Kamala's VP, Or Tim Kaine,

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Speaker 2: who would have been Hillary's VP. Like, people just completely

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Speaker 2: have forgotten about Tim Kane. But at least he had

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Speaker 2: the Senate seat to go back to. Walls is in

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Speaker 2: his second term as Minnesota governor. Does he have any

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Speaker 2: political future at all?

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Speaker 1: No, but he can pursue his lifelong dream of Broadway,

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Speaker 1: and I think that, you know.

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Speaker 2: Spirit fingers dancing man. Maybe he can be a rocket.

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Speaker 2: He liked to kick the legs up. Maybe he can

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Speaker 2: get in the rock ats in the Christmas Spectacular, which

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Speaker 2: I'm told is told is a fantastic show. I haven't

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Speaker 2: ever been Tim kay.

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Speaker 1: I know Tim thinks he's got the legs for it,

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Speaker 1: So why not, you know what I mean? You could

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Speaker 1: be up there with the rockets. You never know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: So we have Tim Kaine, I suppose to Tim Walls,

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Speaker 1: who I think was a actually ended up being a

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Speaker 1: pretty serious drag on the Kamala ticket. But Tim Walls,

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Speaker 1: Tim Kaine. Tim Kaine went after Pete. Hegseth just now.

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Speaker 1: And this is a reminder that even though I think

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Speaker 1: there's no chance, I shouldn't say no chance. There's a

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Speaker 1: very low chance they're gonna be they're gonna block Pete's

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Speaker 1: nomination because they needed Republican to go along. I think

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Speaker 1: it's very unlikely, but they like to get their sound bites,

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Speaker 1: and this is, uh, well, let's hear what it turned

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Speaker 1: into and how Pete handled this. But Tim Kine getting

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Speaker 1: a little a little nasty up there on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 3: You had sex, well, you were married to wife two

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Speaker 3: after you just had fathered a child by Weissree. You've

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Speaker 3: admitted that, Now if it had been a sexual assault,

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Speaker 3: that would be disqualifying to be Secretary Defense, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 4: It was a false claim? Then in a false claim, now.

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Speaker 3: If it had been a sexual assault, that would be

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Speaker 3: disqualifying to be a Secretary of Defense, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 4: That was a false claim.

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Speaker 1: So you're talking about a hypothetical.

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Speaker 3: I assume that in each of your weddings you've pledged

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Speaker 3: to be faithful to your wife. You've taken an oath

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Speaker 3: to do that, haven't you?

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Speaker 2: Senator?

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Speaker 3: As I've acknowledged to everyone in this committee, not a

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Speaker 3: perfect person, not claiming to.

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Speaker 1: But no, I just asked a simple question.

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Speaker 3: You've taken an oath like you would take an oath

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Speaker 3: to be secregary defense and all of your weddings to

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Speaker 3: be faithful to your wife.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: I have failed in things in my life, and thankfully

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Speaker 3: I'm redeemed by my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And

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Speaker 3: did you ever engage in any acts of physical violence

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Speaker 3: against any of your wives?

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Speaker 4: Senator?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not?

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Speaker 3: But you would agree with me that if someone had

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Speaker 1: Correct, Senator, absolutely not? Have I ever done that? Wow?

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Speaker 2: I mean so, I said to Politics of personal destruction.

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Speaker 2: This was prior to Tim Kaine, Senator from Virginia, going

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Speaker 1: It's the classic thing though, it's the when did you

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Speaker 1: stop beating your wife? Question? In essence, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: then just just bring it up so that you've tainted

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Speaker 1: the person that you're having the conversation with. U. I

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Speaker 1: would have guessed that Tim Kaine would go this route,

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Speaker 1: Trump and from nominees in some ways, you know, the

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Speaker 1: things that are brought up here. I think it's interesting Democrats,

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Speaker 1: So now now are Democrats of the mind that marital issues,

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Speaker 1: marital problems put aside the violence, which was a total

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Speaker 1: The party of Bill Clinton, I would think, is generally

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Speaker 2: To go out about aside Clinton buck, what about what

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Speaker 2: we just saw of Kamala Harris's husband. No questions by

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Speaker 2: husband Doug im Hoff in his mid forties was accused

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Speaker 2: Doug Imhoff was never even asked about it in any interview,

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Speaker 2: and Tim Kaine went out on the road and campaigned

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Speaker 2: sort of job you can have based on past behavior?

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Speaker 2: Not to mention, Doug Imhoff got his nanny pregnant kind

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Speaker 2: of a big no no, just kind of tossing it

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Speaker 2: of a big big deal.

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Speaker 1: For most of an employee who lives or at least

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Speaker 1: for a paycheck and is around your wife and your

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Speaker 1: family regularly. I mean, look, I don't think that Schwarzenegger

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris married him, and he also, according to credible sources,

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Speaker 1: slapped the crap out of a woman in his mid forties,

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Speaker 1: and people say, Okay, why are you talking about mid forties.

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Speaker 1: We're not talking about the first time the guy got

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Speaker 1: a beer when he was eighteen and did something stupid.

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Speaker 1: When you're in your mid forties, like you're a grown man,

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Speaker 1: like you're not slapp And I would say this, you're

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Speaker 1: not slapping a woman for the first time in your

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Speaker 1: my point on this is Tim Kaine campaigned with Doug

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Speaker 1: Immahoff in this most recent presidential election, and now he's

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Speaker 1: out on the in the Senate deciding that this is

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Speaker 1: an unacceptable past behavior when he's had no issue with

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Speaker 1: it in the past. Mark Wayne Mullen now steps in

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Speaker 1: Republican Mark Wayne Ullen, this is cut thirty two. He

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Speaker 1: is not having it. When it comes to the way

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are going after Pete on this one play it.

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Speaker 4: The senator from Virginius starts bringing up the fact that

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Speaker 4: what if you showed.

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Speaker 1: Up drunk to your job?

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Speaker 4: How many Senators have showed up drunk to vote at night?

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Speaker 4: Have any of you guys asked them to step down

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Speaker 4: and resign? For their job, and don't tell me you

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Speaker 4: haven't seen it, because I know you have.

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Speaker 1: And then how many.

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Speaker 4: Senators do you know have got a divorce before cheating

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Speaker 4: on their wives? Did you ask them to step down?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: But it's for show, you guys.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you make a big show and point out

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Speaker 4: the hypocrisy because the man's made a mistake and you

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Speaker 4: want to sit there and say that he's not qualified.

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Speaker 1: Give me a joke.

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Speaker 4: It is so ridiculous that you guys hold yourself as

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Speaker 4: this higher standard and you forget you got a big

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Speaker 4: plank in your eye.

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Speaker 1: Congress being though, the arbiter of marital fidelity is that's

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Speaker 1: a tough one for a lot of people, and a

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Speaker 2: Also alcohol, I mean, are we really going to pretend

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Speaker 2: that a lot of senators and a lot of congressmen

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Speaker 2: are serving in the capitol? I mean buck Back in

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Speaker 2: for congressional offices to roll in kegs and have parties

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Speaker 2: stopped that. I can only speak to it because I

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Speaker 2: a standard thing you would invite other offices over. You

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Speaker 2: would have a couple of kegs. Everybody would have drinks

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Speaker 2: I knew that heg Seth was likely to be confirmed.

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Speaker 2: When they went they stopped the attacks over woman related

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Speaker 2: the first attack didn't land. When suddenly you're pivoting and

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Speaker 2: saying and now they've got alcohol. There are a lot

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Speaker 2: of senators, remember Ted Kennedy, didn't Ted Kennedy drink like

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Speaker 1: A woman drown that back of his car and created

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Speaker 1: some fake alibi. Yeah, of course, But I mean and

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Speaker 1: the lion of the Senate, you know, Ted Kennedy. This

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Speaker 1: is they the Democrats playing the moral card. Really, like

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Speaker 1: indicative of the fact that they know that on sort

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Speaker 1: So they're just trying to get him, you know, hot

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Speaker 2: I also, again, these hearings, it's all for show. But

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Speaker 2: Mark Waye Mullen is making a really good point on

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Speaker 2: the If you're going to say that heg set is

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Speaker 2: unqualified because of marital issues and alcohol, seventy five percent

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Speaker 2: as well. So what is the standard that they're trying

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Speaker 2: to bring to bear here as it pertains to what

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Speaker 2: And we just elected Trump who's on his third wife,

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Speaker 2: I believe, so the whole argument of morality doesn't really

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Speaker 2: associated with Monica Lewinsky. So the general public has been voting,

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Speaker 2: I think pretty consistently for a quarter century now that

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Speaker 2: and maybe sadly just assume that all politicians morally are

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Speaker 2: being oh, politicians are sort of these moral arbiters or

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Speaker 2: in role models for the general public.

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Speaker 1: Look, do do we want someone to do the job

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Speaker 1: or are we picking somebody who is a a you know,

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Speaker 1: Like I think we've moved away. And maybe people don't

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Speaker 1: we've we've very clearly moved away from a world of, uh,

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Speaker 1: anybody who has a public job is supposed to be

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Speaker 1: a personal role model. Yeah, there are limits, right, you

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Speaker 1: don't want somebody who's like a heinous criminal. But I

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Speaker 1: But I also think that before to the point you

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. A lot

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Speaker 2: of you do remember Gary Hart. My phone is blown

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Speaker 2: So again, you're willing to go out in campaign with

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Speaker 1: For a long time we heard looting was the.

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Speaker 5: caught somebody. We're pretty sure it was lighting fires walking

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Speaker 5: on the blowtorch.

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Speaker 1: They let them go.

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Speaker 5: So if you can find someone lighting a fire, and

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Speaker 5: you catch somebody and you can get the cops to

439
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Speaker 5: bust him and throw them in jail, give you five

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Speaker 5: thousand bucks. So keep your eyes peeled and do what

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Speaker 5: you can out there. Don't fake it though, no staging.

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Speaker 1: Let me know, I buck.

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Speaker 2: This is a red pilled moment for a lot of

444
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Speaker 2: Los Angelinos. I think now David Spade has been I

445
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Speaker 2: think a more moderate guy that politician gen x Era

446
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Speaker 2: is less likely to be as a crazy left wing

447
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Speaker 2: But I do think it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'll tell you this. In New York

449
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Speaker 1: you have had a few things that have always made

450
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Speaker 1: it feel like public safety was a little bit more

451
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Speaker 1: of a it affects everybody thing than you do in

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Speaker 1: a place like Los Angeles. What I mean is, if

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Speaker 1: you take the subway. You take the subway right, it

454
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you live, and if the subway is unsafe,

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Speaker 1: people pay attention. There is certainly a perception and my friends,

456
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Speaker 1: my Los Angeles based friends, have spoken me about this

457
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Speaker 1: many times in the past, where if you live in Brentwood,

458
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Speaker 1: if you live in Beverly Hills, you're living in a

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Speaker 1: rarefied existence that allows you to separate yourself from the

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Speaker 1: realities of more interior Los Angeles. God, I think that's

461
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Speaker 1: right wherever the and so you can have these luxury

462
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Speaker 1: beliefs and you're just getting into your Mercedes or your

463
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Speaker 1: Porsche or whatever, and you're going to friends' houses in

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Speaker 1: Malibu the boo. You know, you're you're not dealing with

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Speaker 1: the degeneracy that maybe is on the streets of Hollywood

466
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Speaker 1: Boulevard the same way. This now is a moment where

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Speaker 1: the crappy leadership of Los Angeles as a city in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles County is affecting the people that live in

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Speaker 1: some cases truly gated communities, but the proverbial gated community, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean they always felt safe behind their high walls

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Speaker 1: and their fancy neighborhoods. Well, maybe they're relatively safe from crime. Still,

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Speaker 1: they weren't safe from these fires. So it has been

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Speaker 1: made real for them in a way that I think

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Speaker 1: is pushing the recognition of politics. Now.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really good point for people who

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Speaker 2: have spent time in New York City and in La La.

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Speaker 2: You have the ability to have a multi acre estate

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Speaker 2: with a gated community in West LA to a large extent,

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Speaker 2: or in the beachside communities, and you can really isolate

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Speaker 2: yourself from actual danger to a large extent in La.

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Speaker 2: I was in West LA, have spent probably years of

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Speaker 2: my life almost now in West LA. I've never felt

483
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Speaker 2: remotely endangered in West LA. To your point, Buck, New York,

484
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Speaker 2: everybody is right on top of everybody else, and it

485
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Speaker 2: feels much more like a place where danger could erupt

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Speaker 2: in a way that La does not, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: And what now is happening is all of these people,

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Speaker 2: legitimately from their gated mansions and their exclusive, wealthy enclaves,

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Speaker 2: are suddenly dealing with a level of crime that they've

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Speaker 2: never anticipated before. People buy and large. We're not engaging

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Speaker 2: in violent behavior in Pacific Palisades, ever, And so you

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Speaker 2: could look back and you could say, oh, well, that's

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Speaker 2: not really the part of LA that I'm concerned about.

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Speaker 2: The rubber doesn't have to meet the road of your

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Speaker 2: political opinions. And suddenly Julia Roberts, when she was I

496
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Speaker 2: bet raising money to bail out people during BLM, is

497
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Speaker 2: saying wait, f you to all these looters out there.

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Speaker 1: And LA is much less a city than a lot

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Speaker 1: of other cities are, meaning it's actually a collection. Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles is a collection of different cities, all connected via

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Speaker 1: you know, highways, really and you can even see that

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Speaker 1: with things like in Beverly Hills has its own police department,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You look at some of

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Speaker 1: these communities, they have their own police force, they have

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Speaker 1: their own you know, set up with that's some of

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Speaker 1: the local you know, local politicians and and sort of

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Speaker 1: local commissions and people who are in charge of stuff.

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Speaker 1: So it's a place where I think you're able to

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Speaker 1: create your own little universe. You know, if you live

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Speaker 1: in a mansion in Beverly Hills, you don't really care

511
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Speaker 1: what's happening in downtown LA very much, or you know,

512
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Speaker 1: you don't have to deal with it. It's quite far

513
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Speaker 1: actually to get there. So this though is a moment

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Speaker 1: where the people who have lived in very fen you

515
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Speaker 1: know specific Palisades is considered a very desirable, very high

516
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Speaker 1: end area. It's largely gone burned to the ground. I

517
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Speaker 1: mean huge parts of it are gone, and people have

518
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Speaker 1: to turn around and say, hold on a second, why

519
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Speaker 1: weren't the proper preparations made. Why are people bleating like

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Speaker 1: imbeciles about climate change right now, as if that is

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Speaker 1: helpful or has anything to do with anything. So this

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Speaker 1: is maybe a moment that there'll be some people whose

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Speaker 1: minds changed. I also wonder how many of them will

524
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Speaker 1: just decide that this is the last straw, that they'll

525
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Speaker 1: decide that they want to sell the land'll probably you know,

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Speaker 1: clear the land if they've had a home that's burned down,

527
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Speaker 1: take whatever the insurance money is and go elsewhere. Some

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Speaker 1: of them will rebuild, I'm sure, but some of them won't.

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Speaker 2: I think huge percentages of people will leave and take

530
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Speaker 2: their insurance money and go honestly to Red States because

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Speaker 2: they're fed up over this and this to your point

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Speaker 2: on the climate change yesterday, while you were sitting in traffic,

533
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Speaker 2: that was what I really wanted to kind of hammer home,

534
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Speaker 2: because that great editorial laying out LA's always had wildfires,

535
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Speaker 2: we actually managed, thanks to human ingenuity, to get to

536
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Speaker 2: the point where there were almost no acres being burn

537
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Speaker 2: compared to historic norms. And now all we've done is

538
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Speaker 2: basically recreate the same scenarios in situations that existed before

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Speaker 2: human ingenuity had driven down the number of homes that

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Speaker 2: were going to be destroyed. And because of that human ingenuity,

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Speaker 2: I bet a lot of these communities are relatively new

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Speaker 2: because they probably didn't want to build there historically because

543
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Speaker 2: they were dangerous relative to the wildfire and wildlife surrounding them.

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Speaker 2: There was more danger of those areas being burned.

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Speaker 1: Did you see the analysis as well that they the

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Speaker 1: state of California does not allow risk pricing for insurance

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Speaker 1: for fire insurance, which means that there's no disincentive to

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Speaker 1: build and to build very extravagantly in these and fire

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Speaker 1: prone areas. It also means that there's no insurance pool

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Speaker 1: to cover these losses. So then California provides an insurance

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Speaker 1: of last resort, and that insurance also does not have

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Speaker 1: enough capital to actually cover these losses. So all the

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Speaker 1: regulations that they have in place have done is made

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Speaker 1: the whole situation worse and also requires the raising of

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Speaker 1: rates for everybody who doesn't actually live in as dangerous

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Speaker 1: of a place because the insurance company has to get

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Speaker 1: the capital to be able to cover the risk, even

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Speaker 1: if you limit how much they can actually take in risk.

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Speaker 1: So it's a broken system, as much of California systems

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Speaker 1: now are. Look, do you have old videotapes, film reels,

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Speaker 2: A lot of you out there want a way in

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Speaker 2: on me, saying Gary Hart and here his presidential campaign

587
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Speaker 2: getting blown up back in the nineteen eighty eight presidential

588
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Speaker 2: cycle is what unleashed the fury, so to speak, of

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Speaker 2: investigating past behavior as evidence for why you shouldn't be president.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, I was in like kindergarten, so

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Speaker 1: if my recollection of this is nuts, you know, Clay

592
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Speaker 1: was working on his PhD at the time. But I

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Speaker 1: was a little I was a little I was only

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Speaker 1: like seven or eight years old.

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Speaker 2: But I am such a history politics nerd that I've

596
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Speaker 2: actually read a book about this, and I don't remember

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Speaker 2: the name of the book.

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Speaker 1: This is now I'm getting in. This is like super

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Speaker 1: the whole book about this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, about the way that it altered the trajectory of

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Speaker 2: American politics, that it had never occurred before. But some

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Speaker 2: of you went a weigh in, who remember this being covered?

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Speaker 2: Karen in Franklin, Tennessee, by the way, that's where I live.

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Speaker 1: I love you already, Karen. What you got for us? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm your neighbor.

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Speaker 8: But I remember monkey business.

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Speaker 2: It was the beginning of the end for Gary Hart.

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Speaker 2: There were picks, sure's all over.

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Speaker 1: Not social media, we didn't have that, but magazines and

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Speaker 1: things like that.

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Speaker 8: But when you said it, I had to.

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Speaker 2: Try to get in and I'm supporting you.

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Speaker 9: It was a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Karen. I love I knew I was gonna like.

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Speaker 2: Karen lives down in Franklin where I live.

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Speaker 1: We do have Dan Vip who writes in, I don't

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Speaker 1: think the change was Gary Hart so much as it

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Speaker 1: was Bill Clinton. Gary Hart pulled himself out of the

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Speaker 1: race when it was showing the allegations were true. It

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Speaker 1: had happened before. Do you remember Sergeant Schreiber. But when

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Speaker 1: Clinton was accused and there was evidence the allegations were sound,

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Speaker 1: he said he was not gonna let it knock him

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Speaker 1: out of the race. That to me, that's my contention,

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Speaker 1: I mean. And also I don't remember the Gary Hart

625
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Speaker 1: thing very well. To be fair, well, they tried.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Clinton was the natural outgrowth of this. Michael in Atlanta, Michael,

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Speaker 2: what do you think.

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, you actually just started to steal my thunder there. Yes,

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Speaker 9: it's very significant because if Hart had won and Bill

630
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Speaker 9: Clinton wouldn't become president in ninety two because the Democrats

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Speaker 9: would have been behind Gary Hart. So it definitely changed

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Speaker 9: the trajectory of history.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call ver fall? Or am I

634
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Speaker 2: just being thrown under the bus here by one of

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Speaker 2: our spellers in Nebraska?

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Speaker 1: Is it verfall?

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Speaker 8: Verdell?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Thanks, I didn't think it was like, I didn't think

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Speaker 1: ver fall.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't think just a phone connection.

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Speaker 2: Verdell sounds way more okay, Sorry, sorry for throwing I

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Speaker 2: was thrown under the bus by our call screener Nebraska Typo. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: certainly hold on, let me pause for a second, Verdell Typo.

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Speaker 2: Let me just say, uh, well, sorry, Verdell continued, Yeah, you.

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Speaker 8: Were talking about Jessicahan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all of the Gary Hart Kate craziness.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've I still happen to have that issue from

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Speaker 8: I think it was eighty two yet in my file

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Speaker 8: the place.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you still have the old Playboy magazine? You have

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Speaker 2: files of old Playboy magazines.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you could call that. It's out in the shop.

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Speaker 1: How many years of Playboys do you have?

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Speaker 8: Oh, back to sixty seven.

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Speaker 2: I think when did you stop collecting them?

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Speaker 8: Oh, well, when they quit publishing.

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Speaker 2: So you have like forty years of Playboys. They're Burdell

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Speaker 2: in Nebraska. I knew he was on the ball. Verndell,

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Speaker 2: forty years of Playboys. He's got my back, Buck,