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Speaker 1: Ron an Aian.

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Speaker 2: We're heading into fourth of July weekend Triple A expects.

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Speaker 2: I read the report right over three hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: thousand breakdowns because of the number of people that are

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Speaker 2: going to be out.

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Speaker 3: On the road.

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Speaker 1: The car Doctor, I wondered if I had anything to

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Speaker 1: worry about with a hybrid battery.

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Speaker 4: Toyota has such high hopes for their batteries that they've

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Speaker 4: they've got. I think it's like an eight year, hundred

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Speaker 4: thousand mile warranty. In general.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Aniuan the Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors are open.

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Speaker 4: But I am here to take your calls at eight

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Speaker 4: five five five six oh ninety nine hundred and.

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Speaker 1: Now he poop you.

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Speaker 4: To go.

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Speaker 1: Fu spacious guys. I'm the wives of.

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Speaker 2: Brain fuck her from man.

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Speaker 1: Majesty is.

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Speaker 3: What the fruited bad.

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Speaker 5: But no, wait a minute, I'm talking about that.

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Speaker 3: A manager, sweet a manager.

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Speaker 5: You know, God don.

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Speaker 4: Shed his race on the happy Birthday America, and welcome

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Speaker 4: to The Car Doctor's fourth of July radio show. Hello,

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Speaker 4: and welcome Ronin Anie in the Car Doctor here, and

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Speaker 4: I just want to remind everybody to take a big

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Speaker 4: bite out of the American lifestyle this weekend and have

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Speaker 4: yourselves a great time and remember that as tough as

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Speaker 4: things might be, we're still in the greatest place on

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Speaker 4: the planet, that being the good old Us of a

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Speaker 4: Happy Fourth of July, Happy Birthday America. I wanted to

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Speaker 4: talk to you this hour as we kick off this

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Speaker 4: episode of The Card Doctor a little bit about batteries

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Speaker 4: and battery technology and it's being a case at the

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Speaker 4: shop the last three weeks. I'm noticing in the heat

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Speaker 4: as summer is here that we're seeing much higher battery

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Speaker 4: failures and we're seeing battery failures. I've been taking a

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Speaker 4: survey and watching the numbers. We're typically seeing battery failures

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Speaker 4: on the variety of cars, the typical mix Toyota, Honda,

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Speaker 4: four GM, Chrysler out Evolkswagen, but typically on the on

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Speaker 4: some of those cars that are three to four year

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Speaker 4: old batteries older vehicle that the battery is not going

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Speaker 4: the five year or the six year mark, whatever the

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Speaker 4: length of time that battery is supposed to go. And

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Speaker 4: that's interesting to be aware of because I've also made

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Speaker 4: a casual observation for the last year and a half,

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Speaker 4: battery manufacturers are changing the way that they warranty batteries.

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Speaker 4: There's no more pro rating on batteries. You're typically going

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Speaker 4: to start to see if you haven't already. For example,

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Speaker 4: we'll sell a top of the line platinum battery as

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Speaker 4: they might refer to it, and it'll have a forty

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Speaker 4: two month free replacement from specific manufacturers and distributors, and

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Speaker 4: then after that it's up to you. There's no more

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Speaker 4: pro rating per month. After a year and a half,

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Speaker 4: they've gone away from that, and I believe it has

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Speaker 4: to do with that they've changed the manufacturing process. It's

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Speaker 4: batteries are just evolving into something else all over again,

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Speaker 4: just like the automobile is, and it's becoming that much

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Speaker 4: more of a complication item. But suffices to say that

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Speaker 4: I marked the three weeks of June as selling more

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Speaker 3: And you know, you have to sit there and look

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Speaker 4: And I've always said and I've always maintained, along with

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Speaker 4: of a battery.

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Speaker 3: And it is.

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Speaker 4: I've seen the proof of it again this summer. This

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Speaker 4: isn't the first summer reverent into this where heat was

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Speaker 4: the problem or heat caused battery failures. But what's really

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Speaker 4: bothersome is each and every one of those batteries, and

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Speaker 4: I documented it over fourteen times, were vehicles that we

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Speaker 4: hadn't seen in a while, vehicles that didn't have maintenance,

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Speaker 4: vehicles that approximately half of them had really dirty battery terminals.

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Speaker 4: And the rest were vehicles that had minimal amounts of

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Speaker 4: think that that, along with the heat factor, is creating

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Speaker 4: We went out to eat and about ten thirty at night,

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Boy, you know, you remember when you're younger, you used

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Speaker 3: Now when you're older.

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Speaker 4: You go out late at night in ten thirties, tired,

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Speaker 4: to show you that the age process, you do become

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Speaker 4: your father, and you do become your mother. It just

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Speaker 4: takes a little while. And I felt bad because as

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Speaker 3: The side of the road.

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Speaker 4: Hoot up, and two people standing there in the dark,

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Speaker 4: See it looked to be about eight or nine years old,

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Speaker 4: that was in need of some maintenance, that was in

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Speaker 4: You know what's stuck on the side of the road.

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Speaker 4: I don't care how busy the road is. Sometimes that's worse.

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Speaker 4: You've got to worry about the eighteen wheeler trying to

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Speaker 4: be either. And I was gonna stop, I will say that,

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Speaker 4: But just as I approached them, there was a police

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Speaker 4: And I guess my point as we kick off this

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Speaker 4: It's still about you've got to take care of it.

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Speaker 4: It's a car, it's a piece of machinery. At the

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Speaker 4: we were seal coating the parking lot and doing some

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Speaker 3: Who's going to work on what?

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Speaker 4: And there's really nothing to go on, and all the

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Speaker 4: have been avoided. Somebody was overdue state inspection by four

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Speaker 4: days and they were afraid to drive the car over

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Speaker 4: fourth of July weekend. They had a whole two months

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Speaker 4: weekend and they needed to get it done. And one

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Speaker 4: Saturday was the start of their annual family vacation. They

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Speaker 4: were taking a trip to North Carolina, and they wanted

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Speaker 4: to get it serviced yesterday. And I just wondered thinking

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Speaker 3: You know. I know, we're all stuck on this.

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Speaker 4: Cars don't need anything mentality. And we're going to talk

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Speaker 4: Consumer Reports just came out with an astounding article that

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Speaker 4: really spoke well of the problems car manufacturers are having

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Speaker 4: with oil consumption, and that oil consumption is becoming it's

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Speaker 4: it's there, it's underfoot, it's becoming a real issue.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that this hour too.

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Speaker 4: I think I want to leave you with this that

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Speaker 4: when you're doing the simple things, and there's still a

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Speaker 4: lot of simple things you can do, you know, the

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Speaker 4: top five things you have to worry about if you're

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Speaker 4: getting ready to go away fourth at July weekend and

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Speaker 4: you're already there, so maybe this is a little late,

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Speaker 4: but you want to look at oil level, you want

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Speaker 3: You want to take a.

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Speaker 4: Peek at the headlights and the tail lights, and check

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Speaker 4: wiper blades as well. So I guess there's six things

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Speaker 4: that you want to think about. But if you're riding

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Speaker 4: If you're riding around on a battery that's three four

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Speaker 4: years old and it looks like you're growing cauliflower on

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Speaker 4: the battery terminals, you probably need to have the terminals cleaned,

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Speaker 4: There is a lot to be said about the heat

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Speaker 4: of the ways to ensure that the battery is going

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Speaker 4: to laugh last its life is to take a look

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Speaker 4: at the technology that's being put into them, specifically powerframe

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Speaker 4: grid technology. And we're seeing some excellent positive results with

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Speaker 4: powerframe grid technology in that we haven't replaced the battery yet.

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Speaker 4: Now it's been out for a couple of years and

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Speaker 4: of the car. Well, powerframe grid technology provides a battery

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Speaker 4: It still comes back to how you choose to take

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Speaker 4: care of the car. Hello and welcome Ron and any

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Speaker 4: and the car doctor here at eight five five five

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Speaker 4: six zero nine nine zero zero here to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: About your car problem, whatever it might be, here to

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Speaker 4: help you solve that car problem. Here to help you

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Speaker 4: have a better relationship both of your car and your mechanic,

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Speaker 4: should you choose to do so, and not scare you away,

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Speaker 4: that's not my goal. My goal is to really just

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Speaker 4: on and why some of the choices you make, both

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Speaker 4: in repair shop procedure and dollars you decide not to

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Speaker 4: the hour, we're gonna be joined once again by our

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Speaker 3: Steve's gonna be stopping by to talk about some of the.

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Speaker 4: Common problems he sees do it yourself for and young

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Speaker 4: mechanics making people when they choose or don't choose to

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Speaker 4: properly maintain a vehicle. Always a good time talking to Steve.

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Speaker 4: We've had him on the show before and he's always

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Speaker 3: Rick. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help?

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Speaker 5: Thank you for your show?

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Speaker 3: You're welcome.

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Speaker 5: I got a twenty ten accord and I'm very concerned

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Speaker 5: about this oil consumption problem. I've been hearing about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a and it's not just the Accords Rick.

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Speaker 4: We've seen bulletins of various shapes and sizes for Accords odysseys,

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Speaker 3: We've seen more than a few.

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Speaker 4: Cars go through the shop with this particular problem for

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Speaker 4: The issue is on Honda engines somewhere around the two

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Speaker 4: some early twenty twelves, they're starting to have oil consumption

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Speaker 4: check engine light to come on, engine miss, check engine

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Speaker 4: with that as well. Honda has more than a few

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Speaker 4: bulletins in a case. In the case of your you're

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Speaker 4: a cord Rick, it's bulletin twelve eighty seven that talks

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Speaker 4: about how once Honda identifies that your vehicle is having

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Speaker 4: it is that what you're hearing.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I've heard. There's a several causes here, rapid cold

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Speaker 5: a little bit more miles per gallery.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's the one that's really breaking

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Speaker 3: It's they've lowered the.

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Speaker 4: Tension of the oil ring in an attempt for less

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Speaker 4: there's the result that true. Yeah, oh, yeah, absolutely, it's true.

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Speaker 4: And you know I typically see it. I have seen

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Speaker 4: which the details have not yet. I've not been able

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Speaker 4: something like that, so they have you know, they are

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Speaker 4: covering it. But my concern, my problem is if you're

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Speaker 3: I don't care who does it.

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Speaker 4: And you know, when you do something like this at

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Speaker 4: funny too, because out of the five vehicles that I

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Speaker 4: far as leaks. And you know, my point is that

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Speaker 4: you know, a mechanic working on a car, or I

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Speaker 4: should say it like this, the repair facility working on

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Speaker 5: Well, is there anything I could do anything?

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Speaker 4: No, there really isn't. They don't, and they don't. They

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Speaker 4: don't reference that in the bulletin at all. About the

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Speaker 4: you know what the procedure's got to be. Just make

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Speaker 4: get out of it. Well, you didn't do enough oil changes,

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Speaker 4: so you have to have had done service. So it's

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Speaker 4: just something else, more paperwork.

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Speaker 5: So every one of these cars are having a problem.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, the bulletin actually lists a chassis range,

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Speaker 4: but I'll say it like this. I've spoken to the

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Speaker 3: He's doing three a week. So that's an all.

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Speaker 4: That's an awful lot of cars. That's an awful lot

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Speaker 3: Rick, Good luck to you.

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Speaker 4: And you know, if you need a copy of the bulletin,

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Speaker 4: shoot me an email Ron at cardoctorshow dot com. I'll

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Speaker 4: be glad to email it out to you. And you know,

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Speaker 4: hopefully that helps you to make a good decision. Coming

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Speaker 4: up next, some of the mistakes that can be made

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Speaker 4: you on the side of the road. All. In our

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Speaker 4: follow up conversation with instructor Steve from Cincinnati, Ohio, I'm

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Speaker 4: bronning any in the car doctor.

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