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Speaker 1: And that's what you Really missed with Jenna.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Podcast, Welcome to You, and That's what you Really miss podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's ugly episode. It's always a Glee episode. Glee on Glee.

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Speaker 1: We have another Glee rewatch podcast and they have their

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Speaker 1: finger on the pulse and this is Recovering Cleek.

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Speaker 2: Dedicated big fans. Oh yeah, and what what a time

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Speaker 2: we just had.

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Speaker 1: Are so funny and so sweet.

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Speaker 2: They know everything.

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Speaker 1: We know nothing. They're doing deep dives and they're uh,

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Speaker 1: they've done a huge rewatch. They've hosted a cabaret at

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Speaker 1: fifty four below singing Glee. I just you know they

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Speaker 1: know some Glee versions. This is like when Ian's talking

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Speaker 1: about knowing Glee versions of songs but not knowing the original,

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Speaker 1: Like that's a fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they're wonderful. This is the host of Recovering

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Speaker 2: Gleeks Lena and Ian.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Hi.

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Speaker 2: Hi, hello, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: How are you you.

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Speaker 3: Ever had someone cry on an episode?

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Speaker 1: No, but we cried. It's okay, yeah holy?

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Speaker 2: So likewise, are you kidding me? I mean, you guys

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Speaker 2: were doing this before we were, so this is you know,

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Speaker 2: does predate us. Well, yeah, okay, fine.

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Speaker 4: I generally I am so emotional right now. It's so

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Speaker 4: good to me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so so much. But those of you who

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Speaker 2: don't know who are listening, Recovering Gleek is another Glee podcast,

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Speaker 2: and then and Ian have been doing it for years.

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Speaker 2: If we watched everything and are so wonderful. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: wish you could see them right now. They're smiling.

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Speaker 4: It's just a huge moment for us.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, God, gleas talk about it.

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Speaker 2: So tell us how this podcast happened. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 2: we got to go further, the friendships, the watching Glee

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Speaker 1: So sweet?

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Speaker 3: So Lean and I met in college back in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: We met in college and we were friends for years,

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Speaker 3: and it's so bizarre. Glee just like never came up

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Speaker 3: in our conversations. And then literally we know the exact

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Speaker 3: location we were at when the podcast was incepted. We

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Speaker 3: were in a production of Andreloid Weber's classic Joseph and

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Speaker 3: the Amazing TCH Color dream Coat Incredible, and we were

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Speaker 3: had watched you know, like from the pilot onward, and

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Speaker 3: had incredibly strong opinions about it. And I feel like

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Speaker 3: Glee had a huge resurgence in the pandemic. Yes, and

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, we were like, we're the only two people

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Speaker 3: we really felt like it was it was our calling

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Speaker 3: talking about Glee again.

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Speaker 4: A bus excuously. I looked at him and I was like,

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Speaker 4: how have we never spoken about this before?

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Speaker 1: It was a huge I was so excovery.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, were there What were your if you remember, if

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Speaker 1: Right, It's like you can only only we can talk

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Speaker 1: What you're saying is like also kind of why I

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Speaker 1: you guys like loser like me. In the song.

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Speaker 1: No, I know, but we just like we were so afraid.

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Speaker 2: For we raised you for better or for worse exactly.

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Speaker 1: We're real role models here.

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Speaker 1: It was like, Cam, I can't tape any I'm a

443
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Speaker 1: really bad typer.

444
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Speaker 2: Are you I read this?

445
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 4: Sometimes I take typing tests for fun.

446
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: That's fun. I love that.

447
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Like once a month. I seriously considered like buying a

448
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: typing course. Oh my gosh, you know, yeah I do.

449
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I learned when they used to put the paper

450
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: over your hands, like because this is that way you

451
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: didn't cheat. And look now that reminds me of like

452
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: when I was little, well not little, when I was

453
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: in high school and Rent came out. Rent was out

454
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: at like the height of it's like phenomenon too, and

455
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: my Dad was like, no more, Jenna, turn it off.

456
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: I can't anymore. Just one more time. I have to

457
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Speaker 1: learn the words still love you, bab, I have to.

458
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: He's like, I just I'm going to break the CD

459
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Speaker 1: in half if you don't stop listening to this right now.

460
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Speaker 1: That's well, that's very exciting.

461
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Speaker 2: I'm uh Jenna is also a gay man.

462
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: Of course, Yes, everyone who watches is on some level.

463
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Speaker 1: I would have I would have started a podcast if

464
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Speaker 1: I wasn't on Glee about that. Do you know what

465
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Speaker 1: I mean? Like that would have been me?

466
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Speaker 2: I would have I would have hated it.

467
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: I think I would have been dying for this show.

468
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: For sure. I would have watched it.

469
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Speaker 2: I think I would have hate watched it.

470
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Speaker 1: I think I I had an audition for it and not

471
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Speaker 1: gotten it. Maybe I would watched it. You know, that's

472
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: different stories.

473
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Speaker 2: We have a friend mouth years later was like, so

474
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Speaker 2: I auditioned? Like what?

475
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Speaker 3: Oh?

476
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody was for it.

477
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Speaker 3: Of course, I'm sure a few years older I would

478
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Speaker 3: have been doing the same thing.

479
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Speaker 4: Oh I remember I was like in junior high, like

480
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Speaker 4: I'm going to get the on the show.

481
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Speaker 1: Was.

482
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Speaker 4: I was like from a small town in Utah. There's

483
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Speaker 4: no way quick.

484
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Speaker 2: You feel like that, right, was like I need on

485
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: that show and then she did.

486
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Speaker 4: I remember I was just too young to do the

487
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 4: Glee Project because I really thought about it.

488
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, well it didn't happen.

489
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Speaker 2: Did you both watch the Glee Project?

490
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and we we've we've done episodes

491
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 4: on it as well.

492
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Speaker 1: The really okay, what are the feelings about it? Tell us?

493
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I was so into the Glee Project

494
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 4: the time. I feel as though we think that the

495
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 4: structure like didn't make a lot of sense, especially the

496
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: first season when it would be Ryan like getting to

497
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: know Damien McGinty week after week because he was in

498
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: the bottom that he wasn't seeing especially the girls in

499
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 4: the top who like weren't getting called to the bottom.

500
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Speaker 4: So like the structure of the show just didn't work.

501
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 4: But we love that show. We like qut it to

502
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 4: this day. There it is like a riff off that

503
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: they do.

504
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: We loved there's an interaction where two contestants on that

505
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: show are having a competition to see if who's falsetto

506
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 3: goes higher, and it is like it is life or

507
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 3: death to them, sat and watching it. That's the reality TV.

508
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 3: I want to be watching That's what I'm invested in.

509
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Speaker 1: I mean, storyline exactly like the one they did, right

510
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 1: of course, Yeah you know I'm watching that. Okay, I

511
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: get it. I probably I would have watched Glee Project too,

512
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Speaker 1: I get it.

513
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 3: Okay, Glee Project is like some of the best reality

514
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Speaker 3: TV out there. It's insane.

515
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, Kevin, do we have to do that?

516
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: You should?

517
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: You should?

518
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: I will say our listenership severely dropped when we covered projects.

519
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: No one wanted to listen.

520
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: To y'all were on Glee.

521
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: If people care so much more about what you two say,

522
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 3: you'll be fine to hear your thoughts. I'm so curious.

523
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: Oh god, I need that little moment of silence to

524
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: play back on lub just I will say, Oh God,

525
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 2: that I'm sweating.

526
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Speaker 3: Project fans fans.

527
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Speaker 1: I mean, we were really thinking about it first. I

528
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: was like, do we need to like recap this like

529
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: show now? Kevin's like, no, we're not.

530
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Speaker 2: Well, oh my god.

531
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Speaker 1: It felt crazy while we were like this other universe

532
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: was happening while we were doing this thing.

533
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Speaker 3: You know, I have a question when when the Glee

534
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: Project was filming, because you know, every once in a

535
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 3: while they'll be like, and here's your special mentor please

536
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: welcome Kevin mchill. What were you doing, Like, what was

537
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 3: your life like outside of that? Were you touring? Were

538
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: you filming the show proper? Like what was going on that.

539
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: They were filming?

540
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: We were filming the show.

541
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Speaker 1: You would like show up on a Saturday to do

542
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Speaker 1: those Yeah.

543
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Speaker 2: That's and so we have all these conflicting feelings about

544
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: Glee Project. I think because of that, Like the context

545
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: was like, we're tired. What is this other show that

546
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: also feels a little threatening that you're like getting people

547
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: to replace us? And then yeah, that's what Obviously that

548
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: was not the intent, but like that's what it felt

549
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Speaker 2: like a little bit. And then they'd be like, oh,

550
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: on your like day and a half off that you have, basically,

551
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: can you spend half a day going to do this thing?

552
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: And we're like no, And then Ryan would call and

553
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: be like.

554
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: Oh, you gotta go do this thing. The truth was,

555
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: and here's the real truth about the Glee Project when

556
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: it was happening, or at least from my perspective, it

557
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: was like there were in the American idols, right, and

558
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: that had like legitimized a lot. It helped us kind

559
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: of get our audience, like it was in the same vein.

560
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: And then as somebody who came in from theater who

561
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: like was an actor, Like you know, you're like, oh,

562
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: these nobodies, but you're like, but I've been working forever.

563
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: I worked really hard, like I'm an actor, right, and

564
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: then you have these people coming in from my space,

565
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: which is like a whole new world does the Internet

566
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: was like new finding talent, Like there wasn't like TikTok

567
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: where they're pulling artists off of that that are now huge,

568
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: huge artists rightfully, So it felt like you're like, oh,

569
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: it delegitimizes Glee as this TV show. It makes it

570
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Speaker 1: more of a reality thing where you're like pulling people

571
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Speaker 1: out of nowhere and like Middle America. No offense, but

572
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: like you know, it's just one of those things that

573
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: like felt I was like we're taking notes, yeah exactly,

574
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: You're like, see you later. But it just that's what

575
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: it felt like in that moment because we now obviously

576
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: know and see the way that this industry works and

577
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: talent comes from everywhere and we have to find it

578
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: and we have the facility to find it. But back

579
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: then it just I was like, don't delegitimize Glee like

580
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: our show. We like all are trained actors, performers who,

581
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, we worked really hard

582
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Speaker 1: to be here.

583
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Speaker 2: You know what I hear, Jenna is Middle America.

584
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: I'm in Middle America right now.

585
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Speaker 2: Jenna. Yeah, I hope you feel her disdain for you

586
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: right now.

587
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: I feel it.

588
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: Wow, Jenna wow Es, tell me about your favorite characters

589
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: and your favorite songs, ones that you talk about a lot,

590
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: craziest storylines and we've touched on a little bit, and

591
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: favorite season. I'm curious to hear.

592
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: Also, I am at my core, which like I've complicated

593
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: feelings about this, but I'm a Rachel Berry fan through

594
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: and through, and it is because I know that girl.

595
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: Like I feel like anyone who has been in terming

596
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: arts at any time either was Rachel Berry to some

597
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: degree or newer Rachel Berry. Like I know the girl

598
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: who is yes, very very talented, but doesn't know how

599
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 3: to connect with other people, and so like comes off

600
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: as really abrasive because the only thing she's ever been

601
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: praised for is her talent, and so in her brain,

602
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: my value as a person is my talent and nothing else.

603
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: And if someone threatens my talent, they are threatening my

604
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: value as a person. I just find her super interesting

605
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: the whole time. For that reason, I like Rachel Moore

606
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Speaker 3: when she is on the bottom, like, you know, she

607
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 3: is struggling to make friends. People are you know, bringing

608
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: her in, helping her see her worth. That's when I

609
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: find her the most rootable and most compelling. Yeah, I'm

610
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: a Rachel Barry fan at the end of the day.

611
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Speaker 3: My favorite Rachel song, Oh my gosh, what a question.

612
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: That's not fair.

613
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, it's totally fair. And I do think ultimately,

614
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: I mean, like, don't ride on my parade, define the culture,

615
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: change the world. But I think my favorite favorite is

616
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Speaker 3: probably Faithfully. I love that Faithfully.

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Speaker 1: The way we stat on tour. Listen to the two

618
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Speaker 1: of them do that live and we like we like

619
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Speaker 1: every night, like so good, it's so good. Never love that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a good one. Yeah, you know what about you?

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Speaker 4: I would agree. I would say that Rachel's probably my

622
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: favorite character. My favorite song in Glee is kind of

623
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what it is about

624
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 4: this song, but it is my heart song. It lives

625
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: in my bones. Every time I hear it, I can't

626
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: help but dance every time I have a bad day,

627
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 4: Like I have real panic at jackson Ian has turned

628
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: this song on. I'm not going to teach your boyfriend

629
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Speaker 4: how to dance with you. I love that song so much.

630
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Speaker 4: I can't even express how much I love that song.

631
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Speaker 4: To me, it is like an amazing song that like

632
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: makes me want to dance, and I love it, But

633
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Speaker 4: I also love everything that's happening. Yeah, between I love

634
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: like Sue torturing Artie, I love like.

635
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: Good fun like it just to me is like I love.

636
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 4: That episode so much, and I just think that's like

637
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: one of my favorite like moments of ever. It's just

638
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: so fascinated. Yeah.

639
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: I think that's the first time somebody said that.

640
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: Yeah really the first? Yeah for sure.

641
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

642
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: Oh I like it, I get it. I get it. Yeah.

643
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, it's very Do you have a favorite Rachel

644
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: song favorly as well? Yeah, and this is why you

645
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: are co.

646
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: Hosts exactly exactly.

647
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Speaker 4: I knew he was going to say that, because I

648
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: would have said that.

649
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: I just recorded in an episode recently. Yesterday, we record an

650
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Speaker 1: episode about some songs and our lists were like almost

651
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: exactly the same list to like the Google doc this

652
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: is yeah, we got it, we got it.

653
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm like you put in thirty songs, three of them

654
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: are different, Like what I understand, Ian, Do you have

655
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: a favorite song from Glee?

656
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: I do?

657
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: I do want to say first, just because you're on

658
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: this call with me and I heard you being complimented

659
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: on this the other day on the podcast and you

660
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 3: were downplaying it in my top five muscles and to

661
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: songs is I always want to call it the wrong name.

662
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 3: Hold up more than a feeling from city always you

663
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Speaker 3: sound literally like one of the best pocal performances on

664
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 3: the entire show. Is incredible, And when I watched the

665
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: MP four, like when I watch the video, it makes

666
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: me cry. You know how you are feeling in the moment,

667
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: but you seem to be radiating such joy in that number.

668
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: It is like it messes me up.

669
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: Like you shared the other day of like just someone

670
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: filming from the back.

671
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: Of the auditorium.

672
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, God, so powerful, Holy moly.

673
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 3: That list is one of the best from the show.

674
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 3: In my opinion, it's amastic.

675
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Like Jenna, do you not feel like

676
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 2: you sound great? On that song.

677
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm proud of it. I'm definitely proud of it.

678
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: It's one of my prouder numbers for sure. I just

679
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: I have such an emotional attachment to that that competition.

680
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: I think it's one of it's the best one we've

681
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: ever done musically, I think emotionally obviously, some some found

682
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: when I'm looking for got us all Kevin and I

683
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: could cry like the drop of a hat watching that one,

684
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: But but I don't. I didn't think it was like

685
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: out of the realm of something like super super different

686
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: than I've done before. So I'm like, I was kind

687
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: of surprised. I'm like, oh, like, I don't feel like

688
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: this is like crazy different from what Tina has done.

689
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: You can sing your face off, and you can belt

690
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: and stay up there and your voice is soaking high. Yeah,

691
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: and you never get to I don't think you've got

692
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: to showcase that very often.

693
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: That's very kind.

694
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: And I think that that song, especially you singing that

695
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: style of music, strangely fits your voice perfectly.

696
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I appreciate that a lot, I

697
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: really do, And I am proud of that song, and

698
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: I like that song. It's a good original song, like

699
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, yes, a great song to cover. That's

700
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: exciting to me too. I think as I went on

701
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: in the show Kevin and maybe you can you can

702
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: back me up here tell me differently, like I feel

703
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: like I got more comfortable in my own like skin

704
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: and like in my voice in the recordings to you,

705
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: because it's so different than stage, and I think I

706
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: just like didn't give. I had like zero fs to give,

707
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: so I just was like, let's just do this. And

708
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: like even Andrew from uh com clearly thank you. Oh

709
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: my god, sorry my mom brand that's crazy. He was like,

710
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: so far Away is a really good song. And I

711
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I don't remember recording that.

712
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I was on that it's me and

713
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: Diana only and I listened to it and I was like,

714
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: that's my voice and it's different than season one, season two,

715
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: season three.

716
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: Something happened. I had a similar thing happened to me

717
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: though my voice changed in like season five, and I

718
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 2: think it was because I don't know, maybe it's because

719
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: we were like the ever old people and the new

720
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: people and so like our place made us feel more

721
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: confident and comfortable and also efficiency, Like, if we just

722
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: sing this as hard as possible, immediately we're out of

723
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: the recording studio.

724
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: This is what you're getting.

725
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, Ian, we totally do that. You're talking about

726
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 2: your favorite suff Yeah, yeah, I actually I do.

727
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: Lena and I made a promise with each other that

728
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: we would bring this up at some point, and we.

729
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: Have a segment on our show where like we love

730
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 4: to talk about and especially it just it hurts us

731
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 4: and bothers us so much that, like all the Tina

732
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: songs get cut off. We are hurt and bothered by

733
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: the character assassination. We are hurt and bothered by a

734
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: lot of the treatment of Tina co and Chang. We

735
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 4: wrote her a song plenty of time.

736
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: Anytime that like we're discussing a moment of the show

737
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 3: that we're like, why would they do this to Tina?

738
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: We played this song hopefully you can hear it.

739
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: They did you so wrong, Cohen, Sorry jingle, We'll go

740
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 4: play the jingle, like, because we're so angry and upset.

741
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: We're filled with righteous indignation from what they did to

742
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: your character. Give us I follow Rivers the whole track.

743
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: Guys are watering. What release revolution? Can I need to

744
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: hear that one more time that please do sing.

745
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: That is the worst part of my entire day. You

746
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: sound so good on the five seconds. Also, the brown

747
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: dress is iconic.

748
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: Come on, I love that brown dress. Wait, okay, play this.

749
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 4: They did you so wrong t cohench.

750
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: Well number one. I'm honored. I'm honored that Gina got

751
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: her own jingle. God bless. I'm so my god, so

752
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: tickled by that. It really made my day. I think

753
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: that's my new ringtone. I really love it. I love it.

754
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: Silent but.

755
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 4: So much joy.

756
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: Oh that's so sweet. You guys, you know we've been

757
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: into it. We just we laugh because you have to.

758
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: And also it was like part of it. I kind

759
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: of like learned outside of it. Now rewatching it, I

760
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: have less rage about it than I did when I

761
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: was inside of it, because you're like, what what's wrong

762
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: with me? Hate me so much? But like you know,

763
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: when you look at it, it's like the jokes now

764
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: are it's she's crazy, and like we love her for

765
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: it and we're just gonna we're leaning into it.

766
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: It's a bit of the snake eating itself though, or

767
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: is it the chicken and the egg metaphor? I don't know,

768
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: but it's sort of like, is she crazy? Because right

769
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 2: did they did? Yeah? And then the lean into it's.

770
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: Like the the treatment of Tina the whole series DRIs

771
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: and Crazy. But the one that is most agregious to

772
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: me is PROP season three, which is pitched as this

773
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: is the episode where Tina finally gets her moment.

774
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, the moral of the episode, I know, I.

775
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: Know, it's like, Tina, you should shut up and wait

776
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: your turn, take your time. Yeah, you're gonna lead the

777
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: club next year. Q season four, episode one, Blaine and

778
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: Marley are chosen as the leaders of the club. It

779
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: makes my blood boil.

780
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: She also is like, I'm just gonna like sit back

781
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: and be a prop and like be in the background because,

782
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: like you know, it takes a lot of people to

783
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: like make it. And I was like, don't give up

784
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: on yourself, Tina. Yeah that I do feel like though

785
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: she does get her moments in season five, like I

786
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: really do, and more than a feeling, I get it,

787
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: Like I do feel like she does get her time

788
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: to shine or like she just requests it, you know,

789
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: because I was just like, watch out, bitches, here I go.

790
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: Could you imagine it's over one that Tina would have

791
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: been belting like that, and more than a feeling like

792
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: that is a it's a whole different person.

793
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's amazing.

794
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: Well, a long way, a long journey from your favorite

795
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: from one of your favorite songs. I'm honored for the

796
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: Tina jingle. I'm also honored about more than a feeling,

797
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: but that, Yeah, that whole competition, that whole season for us,

798
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure you've heard us talk about it before,

799
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: but like we just had Kevin and I just had

800
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: a ball. Like there was something about just releasing everything

801
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: into like all the crap and like just being like

802
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: here we are still here in school, Like we're still here.

803
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: We found out that we were going to be juniors

804
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: at Comic Con on a panel in front of thousands

805
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: of people. We were like, okay, and I know Kevin

806
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: was smart enough to be like, well that's another year

807
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: of wore.

808
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: I know, Jenny, you say thank you.

809
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, well, at least Kevin and I

810
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: are there together.

811
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, they're not geting rid of the high school yet. Club.

812
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: They need us because we are normal and.

813
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: So much fun with those with those those newbies. And

814
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: we had such a great time.

815
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: So okay, Ian favorite songs of anticipation will ever, No,

816
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: I know it was me the derail that Don't Worry.

817
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: My favorite song in all of Glee is the Adela

818
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 3: mash up in season three. It is also likely my

819
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: favorite scene. It is, like, musically it's really unique, it's improving.

820
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 3: Both songs in my opinion nine sound amazing. And then

821
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: story wise, yeah, the stakes of like Santana just found

822
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 3: out that she's about to be outed to her entire

823
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: town and now has to go on stage and sing

824
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: a song. Yes, those are the highest stakes in the world.

825
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: It's an incredible performance.

826
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: Yes, agreed.

827
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we don't get a lot of that either, that

828
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: whole thing of something's been really there's a lot of

829
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: revealing and secrets being told on the show, but that

830
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: in between moment where it's like time stands still and

831
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: you're watching Naya actor ass Off and she.

832
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: Like has those little moments where she glances over at

833
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: Brittany and they share this kind of knowing looks chills.

834
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 3: It's so good.

835
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: It's so good. Yeah, and the trouble tones, I mean, yeah,

836
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: oh yeah, just under I mean we needed like seven

837
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: more seasons.

838
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: I think this maybe we'll turn into a Trouble Tones podcast.

839
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm here for it. Let's do it.

840
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: We talked extensively about season five and six. Do you

841
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 2: have some greatest hits for one through four? A favorite

842
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: episodes or storylines or things that you guys especially love

843
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: to talk highlights?

844
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we do differ our rankings. At the very

845
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: end of covering all the seasons. We we did like

846
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: our best and worst of everything, and we ranked all

847
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: the seasons, and our season rankings are identical except that

848
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: we disagree on the order of our top two.

849
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

850
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 4: I like season two the most and he likes season

851
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 4: one the most. Obviously we love them both, but those.

852
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: Are our top two.

853
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: Is that feels like a tough, big love for top

854
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: for season two?

855
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear that.

856
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: I know that. That definitely clicks for me. I feel like,

857
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we'd pick one Kevin just because, right,

858
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: I think so? But it's two as a close close Yeah. Yeah,

859
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: I don't even know how I don't. Yeah, it's very interesting.

860
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: It was really hard for us to do and we

861
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 4: weren't involved at all.

862
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: So what was your least favorite?

863
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: I agreed we both said was it was what we said.

864
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so funny.

865
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, hmmm.

866
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: I liked Season four like a lot.

867
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: Or I like when we discussed season four, I like,

868
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: literally just listen to our episode because I wanted to

869
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: remind myself what.

870
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: I know. I get it, we get it, and.

871
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 3: We do say that, like, there are some Season four

872
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: episodes that are like some of our favorite in the

873
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 3: entire series.

874
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: Like the Breakup.

875
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: The breakup is excellent. There's a lot of like I

876
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: like dynamic, what's a lot Diva is amazing. Frankly like

877
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 3: arc in the back half of season four.

878
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a solid one.

879
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: Solid But I feel like season four has a bit

880
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: of like an I identity crisis where it's like, Okay,

881
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 3: the show is now different in what is the show

882
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: going forward? And at least in my opinion, it takes

883
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: them a little bit to solidify what is the show now. Yes,

884
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: I still like season four, but.

885
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: We still love.

886
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

887
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: It was a new venture for the show, for sure.

888
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And it wasn't nailed out of the

889
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: gate for sure. Yeah yeah, yeah, some growing pains.

890
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: So now you guys are taking a sharp turn to

891
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: the left and you're exiting the Glee world. Yeah, now

892
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: you're saying goodbye to Glee. It's time you're moving on.

893
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: You're graduating if you will.

894
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah from McKinley, how do you feel about it and

895
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: where are you going?

896
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: I feel excited and also so sad. You've finished our

897
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: coverage of season six last.

898
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: Year in January.

899
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 4: Wow, we have continued to talk about it. We've done

900
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 4: a lot of We've called them Glee wines. We've on

901
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 4: back and like looked at all the school dance episodes,

902
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: we like, covered all the Alfonso Gomes whole episodes. We like,

903
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: did a bunch of like different like all the coming

904
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 4: out episodes.

905
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: Yes, so we.

906
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: Really we have talked about Glee so much and I

907
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: feel so sad to be leaving it, but I also

908
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 4: feel excited for something new. But yeah, mostly that I

909
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: just keep I keep crying all the time. So mean

910
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 4: so much to me, and but we are excited to

911
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: to talk about something new and have some fun.

912
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: Like truly, Glee is like one of our favorite shows

913
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: of all time, and we could talk about it forever,

914
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: but it got to the point, mainly for our listeners,

915
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: that we'd be saying stuff and be like, have we

916
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: said this exact opinion four times already.

917
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: Oh every episode, La letter, LA's like people are still here.

918
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just parents. We have three thoughts and we

919
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: just repeat them in different orders every episode.

920
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 4: I will just repeat Ian's thoughts as well. I will

921
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 4: pair it back his thoughts.

922
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: I'll just reword it. I'm like, oh yeah, Samelar listening.

923
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: I do the same thing.

924
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: So we are gonna cover Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

925
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: Now, Yes, exciting.

926
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: Collective considering it already. And then the was announced and

927
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: we were like, this is very excited.

928
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: Loaded up, we gotta go. You guys have your finger

929
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: on the pulse.

930
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 3: We've got sun.

931
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 2: Taste makers.

932
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: Okay, Before we let let you guys go, we have

933
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: a question. We always ask at the end of the podcast,

934
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: and we want to know what is the feeling that

935
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: Glee leaves you with or that you're leaving Glee with.

936
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: N you know, I didn't.

937
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: It's bad time in the afternoon where it's either coffee

938
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: or make yourself laugh, you know I love that?

939
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I.

940
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: Think for me. Oh my gosh, it's so a I

941
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 4: can't believe I'm here. I'm so honored to be here.

942
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

943
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 4: We seriously, this is a huge moment for us, and

944
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: thank you the Oh my gosh. So I'm I feel

945
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 4: like there were so many moments growing up. There were

946
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: so many moments, even like in my adulthood, where I

947
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 4: felt as though I like didn't have anyone to like

948
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 4: express this like artistic side of myself, like the Glee

949
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 4: side of myself too, And I went to Glee for

950
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 4: a feeling of home and a feeling of like like understanding.

951
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 4: So I feel incredibly at home by the Glee world

952
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: and the McKinley world. So that's that's how I that's

953
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: the feeling that I feel.

954
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

955
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: Mm than we really are co hosts. I was going

956
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: to say, the feeling that Glee leads me with is

957
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: the feeling of being seen. I just like fourteen year

958
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: old me had never I don't think like seen characters

959
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: that I related to so much. And something that I

960
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 3: love about Glee is it allows its characters to be

961
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: ugly at times, like it allows them to make mistakes,

962
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: it allows them to have imperfections, but it always has

963
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 3: so much empathy for its characters. It helped me one

964
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: like love the weird parts of myself but then like

965
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: if I made a mistake, it was like, that's okay,

966
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: you can apologize and move on. There's so many moments

967
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: in the show where a character says something that resonates

968
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: so deeply with me, or that I am actively watching

969
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: the show and I do something while watching, and then

970
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: the camera Kurts cuts to like Kurt and he's doing

971
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 3: the exact same thing that It just it is truly

972
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 3: like the show for every performing arts kid in the world.

973
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, two incredible answers.

974
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah said, it's been It was so nice to have

975
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: you guys on. Thank you for doing your podcast and

976
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: your show, keeping the Glee alive.

977
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to go listen to that Alphonso episode.

978
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: It might be five hours altogether.

979
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: If anyone ever doubted how serious you were about your

980
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 2: love for Glee, you have. The two part Alphonso.

981
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: Episode was the best. And I thought his episodes were

982
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: so beautifully shot, and they did take forever to shoot.

983
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: I will tell you that they were just you knew

984
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: he was coming, and you knew it was gonna be

985
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: a long day, but you knew it was gonna be beautiful.

986
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: That's like we just you it's gonna be great. It's

987
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: gonna look great. It's gonna look great.

988
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 4: There's so many like crane shots, such a vision lockers.

989
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you get it, you get it. We just knew.

990
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: We were like, oh, it's no fun, We're going to

991
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: be here for a while.

992
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

993
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: We loved him though. We loved him really so wonderful,

994
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 1: sweet sweet man.

995
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: We also we call him the Fawns on our podcast.

996
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if he likes, but we did it anyway.

997
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: He had a lot of we had a lot of

998
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: episodes of his and he just keeps coming back.

999
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: But it's like, I don't know why he likes us,

1000
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: but here we are.

1001
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: So talented, so talented. Well, thank you guys, so so much,

1002
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: and it's so nice to meet you, and please come

1003
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: back again and we'll we'll see you soon, and please

1004
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: go listen to Recovering Gleeks and there's lots and lots

1005
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: of Glee.

1006
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, lots of great things to listen to.

1007
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: Coming coming up, like a whole new fleu of fans

1008
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: and listeners.

1009
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Like are the Gleeks listening watching Buffy because

1010
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 4: they should? Well have you, Jenna, Oh my gosh, it's

1011
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 4: on Hulu it's a really good job.

1012
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 3: Really, this is so not our place.

1013
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: But you have to.

1014
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: I know Sarah and so I, oh my god, I

1015
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: haven't you know her like that? Yeah, but I don't know.

1016
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: You have so many secrets, you know, so many.

1017
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: People to hear who you know.

1018
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 3: I still can't get over the episode where you just

1019
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 3: like casually talked about being Lady Gaga her like playing

1020
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 3: her new.

1021
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 4: Music for you think about it all the time.

1022
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 2: I speaking of which, this just came up in another

1023
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 2: conversation and Jenna I had a flashback of I could

1024
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 2: have said this in the episode. Here we go again

1025
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: in the circular. I'm like, I don't know, but us

1026
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: standing in the living room and like you being like

1027
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do, not letting me out

1028
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: of the show. What do I What do I tell Steph?

1029
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, Steph, what do I tell her? Because like

1030
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: she's texting me and like I can't Ryan's not They're

1031
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: not gonna let me do it. And I'm like, Jenna,

1032
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: there has to be away, like you have to and

1033
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: we were like I was sitting in the living room

1034
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: and you pay it back and coming up the stairs.

1035
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: They're not letting me do it You're so mad, and

1036
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: we're like, get Ryan, get Gaga to call Ryan.

1037
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: That's what it was.

1038
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: And you said you told her, You're like, I think

1039
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 2: if you call Ryan then she's gonna then he's gonna

1040
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: like he did and half within the hour.

1041
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: It's a casual Gaga.

1042
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was. So it was like purely like gay

1043
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: friends sitting there being like, you know, you have to

1044
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: figure it out. Figured it out.

1045
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: She's the best.

1046
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: Because I also was like, call Gaga, make it out.

1047
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but honestly, she was just fast.

1048
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: She went away week into Atlanta and came back to like,

1049
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 2: so Steph and I'm like, stop.

1050
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: That is I'm sure you didn't mean it this way,

1051
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 3: but that's such a power move her not only by

1052
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 3: her government name, but a nickname of her government name.

1053
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: Yes, honestly, the other day when she was on the

1054
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 4: lie detector thing and she said, oh, I love the actors,

1055
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 4: only I knew she was talking about Jenna.

1056
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Same, I was like, she's thinking about Jenna.

1057
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: Jenna, like, are you a gleek? She's like, what's the gleek?

1058
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: And then she's like, oh, you would see it. She's like,

1059
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to get ream. She's like, this is this

1060
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: is LGBTQ, Like I am there. I guess I have

1061
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: to know what this is. No, No, I know, I

1062
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 1: know them. I like them.

1063
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: I love it.

1064
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: Do you remember when we first met her at MTV

1065
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: and it was like early it was Bad Romance was

1066
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: about to.

1067
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: Come out, Yeah, bad Romance.

1068
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 2: We walked past her and she was in her full

1069
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: freak and she just hello, cast of Glee.

1070
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: She was like in her tour weird on our music tour,

1071
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: that's right.

1072
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 2: And I was looking at her like, who is this?

1073
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who is this wild? Just cut to Kevin doing applause.

1074
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so so much, Thank you for.

1075
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: Service. I would do it again.

1076
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: I really good luck about doing it again.

1077
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: We'll have to check back in and see how Buffy

1078
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: is going.

1079
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: Yes, sure, we'd maybe we'll watch it. Maybe we'll watch Okay,

1080
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: great maybe maybe maybe.

1081
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: Also just calling her Sarah, I'm like, she has three sir, Michelle.

1082
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: She is always Sarah Michelle Geller. I can't just say

1083
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 2: Sarah Sarah does not represent Sarah Michelle Gell.

1084
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: No, no, no, for sure. That's that's the nineties.

1085
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: Thank you both, Thank you, thank you so much. Thanks

1086
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: for putting up with us. Thanks for loving Glee as

1087
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: much as you do.

1088
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you, thank.

1089
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 3: You so much for having us on.

1090
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: To do it again.

1091
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: I love You're both sure joy Yeah, thank you, Thank

1092
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 4: you guys so much.

1093
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: Bye matching shirts.

1094
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: You guys are so cute.

1095
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 2: Thank you both so much.

1096
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 4: Thank you Bye bye.

1097
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: It's so nice. I just like love doing podcast crossovers,

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Speaker 1: other Glee rewatches or like with fans, like it's just

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Speaker 1: this is what it's all about, and it just makes

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Speaker 1: me so happy. And they're so sweet and so funny,

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Speaker 1: and they really know more about Glee than we do.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and they think deeply about it. Yes, they

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Speaker 2: talked about it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Have all Fonso episodes. You don't even have all Fondo episode.

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Speaker 2: We haven't even had Alfonso on this show yet.

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Speaker 1: We've tried, Yeah, we have. Thanks for listening, guys, and

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Speaker 1: we love we love you guys. Thank you to recovering

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Speaker 1: Gleek podcasts, Ian and Lina for coming on the show,

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Speaker 1: for sharing all of their Glee. I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: Glee trauma, but they don't like Glee trauma. We do

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Speaker 1: all there, They're they're Gleekdom with us. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: so great to chat with you guys, and we hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed the episode and.

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Speaker 2: That's what you really a miss. Thanks for listening and

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Speaker 2: follow us on Instagram at and That's what you really

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Speaker 2: miss pod. Make sure to write us a review and

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Speaker 2: leave us five stars. See you next time.