1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson. Elizabeth Ralph is here the 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Spiritual Investor. Elizabeth is a high level wealth strategist and 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: former energy trader who believes our world will change when 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: wealth moves into the hands of those who manage it intentionally. 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Hi, Elizabeth, Hi, I'm so happy to be here. 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: Kelly, I'm so happy you're here. I was just telling 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: you before we started recording sometimes this podcast is very 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: beneficial for me as like a selfish tool for investigating 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: topics that I am really kind of trying to uncover myself. 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: And I love the tie in your work between money 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: as energy and spirituality and just also building our own wealth. 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 3: And I've told you before the podcast, a lot of 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: my listeners are women who are very independent, who are 15 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: building their own life, and these are the questions that 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: I get from listeners from my friends. The topics that 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: we're discussing are just sort of how do I invest 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 3: in myself, where do I have blocks energetically, and then 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: how do I make my whole life much more cohesive 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: tying my spirituality into my desire to acquire wealth and 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: the things that I want in this life. So I'd 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: love that your work is really diving into building those 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: bridges between all those topics. But let's give the listeners 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: a little backstory, because I know you retired from the 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: corporate world at the age of thirty nine, which sounds 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 3: like a dream and it really has opened up your 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: whole world into diving into the things that you really 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: want to pursue and really fulfill you in this life. 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: So can you give the listeners a little backstory to 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: how you got to where you are now as the 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: spiritual investor. 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: Well, I was in my early thirties when I just 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: kind of had this aha one day. I was like, Okay, 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: this is a great job because I worked on a 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: financial trading floor. It's a great job, but I don't 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: want to be doing this even at forty you know, 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: or definitelyan out forty five. It was one of those 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: things where I was kind of in a situation and 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: maybe some of the listeners or they're like, yeah, I'm 40 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: appreciative of this light I have now I'm making money, 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: or you know's not that I'm not grateful. However, sometimes 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: we find ourselves in a situation where we kind of 43 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: feel like we're selling almost a part of our soul. 44 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: It's like inching out, it's like barely leaking out. And 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: so for me, I realized I was like, every time 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: I come to this beautiful, you know, marble lobby and 47 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: I get into this elevator to go up to the 48 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: security floor, I feel like there's a part of me 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: that's dying. And I'm like, I know that that is 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: going to have a cumulative effect over time. So it 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: was kind of an early on thing that I kind 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: of recognized. It's not an immediate thing, but I'm going 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: to have to start buying my way out of this. 54 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: Because I'd already done the backpacking thing in Europe. I 55 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: didn't want to go down to zero income and have 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: no money, or have a car that doesn't work or 57 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: something like that. I wanted to actually be able to 58 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: transition out my whole thing, because I think that we 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: should all be defining financial freedom for whatever it is 60 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: for us. My thing was I wanted to be done 61 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: with my long term retirement and I wanted to cover 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: just my basic costs of living, like my mortgage and 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: bills and groceries and stuff like that. I didn't want 64 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: to wait until you know, I was traveling only private 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: jets and all that, I didn't really that just wasn't 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: my sweet spot. So that's exactly what I did, and 67 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: I started. I basically just took the reins. I just said, Okay, 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: well this is what I want, So I'm just going 69 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: to start building into this. And I started investing, and 70 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: I started. I invested in quite a bit of real 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: estate down in San Diego in California at an opportune time. 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: There's always an opportunity, by the way, in every single market, 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: it's just are you positioned and ready to step into it. 74 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: There was a lot of financial people, like even people 75 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: with PhDs that I worked with, that they were like, 76 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: the worst thing you could do right now, Elizabeth is 77 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: By is By real estate in California. And I'm like, 78 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: I don't think so I'm going to do it. My 79 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: gut's telling me that it's not a bad idea. This 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: was after the whole you know, financial crisis, and then 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: you know, most of those properties ended up quadrupling, and 82 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: I was able to move that money and tell that 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: and kind of start. Really I think sometimes people feel like, Okay, 84 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: if I'm going to be a multi millionaire. Then that 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: feels like a daunting big thing. Well, just doing one 86 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: successful investment project, being energetically connected to it, having it 87 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: be part of your story and gaining your momentum and 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: confidence that is the path to being that. And you 89 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: can you can write on the coattails of that believability 90 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: early on and claim that if you will, like, Okay, 91 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: I'm on my path to be a millionaire. I'm not 92 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: there yet, but I'll be on my path. And so 93 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: that's kind of what I did, and it just kept unfolding. 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: I did get to a point where I was a 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: little too much in the spreadsheet. This was kind of 96 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: around like thirty six or something, and I started to 97 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: get a little depressed with the whole situation because I 98 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: was traveling with work. I mean honestly, like it was 99 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: me and a bunch of men that were just like 100 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: you know, doing these deals with like corporations, and and 101 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: it's at a certain point I was like, oh my god, 102 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: I don't know how much longer I can I can 103 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: deal with this. So someone who was from India, this 104 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 2: guy who I ended up being becoming like best friends 105 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: with him. He grew up in an ashroom and He 106 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: gave me all the old Hindu texts that he brought 107 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: from his home in India, and I got to know 108 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: his parents when they flew over. And so that's how 109 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: the spiritual aspect weaved itself in. Okay. It's like a 110 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: lifeline that saved me because suddenly I could focus on 111 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: something that I felt like was bigger than me. And 112 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: when I did that, I already had the money stuff 113 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: going in the background, and it was I was sort 114 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: of able to sort of combine the whole thing, like 115 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: my energy, my elevated happiness. I had the money thing going, 116 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: and I ended up retiring even a little bit earlier 117 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: then I thought I would have. And after I retired, 118 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: I really didn't plan on teaching people money the spiritual investor. 119 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: I didn't even have that concept. And someone at a 120 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: party said, will you help me with my money? And 121 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: I said, no, I don't do that. By the end 122 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: of the party, she had me talked into doing this 123 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: and I went to her house and I decided when 124 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: I was knocking on the door, this was an in 125 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: person I'd agreed to do like eight sessions with her, 126 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: and I made a decision. It was like right then 127 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: and there I'm like, Okay, if I'm going to do this, 128 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: if I'm going to help people with their money, it's 129 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: going to be my way. Yes I did all the 130 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: financial stuff, but I'm not teaching it. I'm not going 131 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: to be locked into that. I'm not going to tell 132 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: people they have to do things a certain way, put 133 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: them in fear. I'm not going to do that, going 134 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: to do it with full energy. And we started that 135 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: session with a meditation. It was like, in that moment, 136 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: my whole life changed as well born. And that was 137 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: seven years ago. 138 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: So what does this spiritual investor actually mean? You mentioned 139 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: obviously your background in wealth management and finance, and then 140 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: now you tie in this friend who introduced you to 141 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: all the Hindu principles, So imagining there's some middle ground 142 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: that you find between the two. But what does that 143 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: look like? Can you talk us through that a little bit? 144 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I actually did not realize that I was 145 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: living in the gap. So the gap would be like, 146 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: you know, we all like to talk about the energy 147 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: of money and all these principles, and there's all types 148 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: of laws and things like that. So that's a really 149 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: fun conversation to have. And then there's this other side 150 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: where it's like we're out here making money and we're 151 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: maybe investing. Maybe we're sitting on the sidelines because we 152 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: don't feel like most women, especially phil they don't have 153 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: the knowledge to invest. And so almost like got these 154 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: two worlds. And then there's this feeling inside of most 155 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: of us who are on this journey, who are like, 156 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: I know I should be putting my energy out there 157 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: in a different way. I want to help people at 158 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: a higher level. However, I feel very locked into this 159 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: life right now. I don't feel like I have the time. 160 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm strapped in with all these bills 161 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: and things that I need to do to do list, 162 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: like how does it all fit? Right? And so there 163 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: is this way where you can live in the gap. 164 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: And I think that this is what really people are 165 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: seeking right now, which is we don't want to go 166 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 2: sit in a cave and be a yogi, but we 167 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: want to actually exist and be wealthy and thrive and 168 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: be out there sharing our value and gifts with the world. 169 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: Like where does that world exist? It's almost like the 170 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: modern day wealthy yogi, right. And I didn't realize that 171 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: I was naturally already living this way of being to 172 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: the point that I didn't really have to do anything. 173 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: When I started teaching this way, I didn't realize that 174 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: I already was pulling down the concepts the energy of money, 175 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: which I'll give you an example. One of them would 176 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 2: be I operate naturally in what I call money neutrality, 177 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: which is that very sort of calm open you know, 178 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: like when you just like you need to make a decision, 179 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: but you don't need to ask anyone. You're like, no, 180 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: I know exactly why I need to. Parents feel this 181 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 2: wh They don't need to pick up the phone and 182 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: ask someone how to parent their child, right, They just 183 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: there's that knowingness. So I operate and have always operated 184 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: in that zone with money. I didn't realize, so I 185 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: started helping people that a lot of people don't. A 186 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: lot of people, I would say most kind of operate 187 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: from a oh, well I have one hundred thousand dollars. 188 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: I have to make it work there I might lose it. 189 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: What if I make a bad decision. 190 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: That type of thing. 191 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: So it's really guiding people into this middle area of 192 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: you're already closer than you think. You understand the spiritual principles, 193 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: but you're not allowing yourself to apply them to money, 194 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: because you think money is this other category over here 195 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: that has so much performance related to it and doing 196 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: the right thing, and even the conditioning you know from 197 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: our parents and things like that, it's really more of 198 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: an allowing what you already know to play in the 199 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: space of money, rather than learning something totally new. 200 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I have so many questions from that statement 201 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: what's coming to me? And maybe this is because this 202 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: is my specific experience. But for instance, you mentioned like 203 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: our parents, the programming that maybe came from our parents, 204 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: and I find that my parents' generation, especially with work, 205 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: operated in this very like this is just what you do. 206 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 3: Like your job is this thing that you have, you 207 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 3: have a responsibility for, You have a responsibility for a family. 208 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: You go to your job to make the money to 209 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: provide the things. But what I also sensed from that 210 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: generation is less of a passion for their job, like 211 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: it's genuinely just a job. And then in my generation, 212 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: I think a shift that I've noticed is that people 213 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: want their passion, their purpose, all of those things to 214 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: tie also into their job. And so then that you know, 215 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: becomes the weird bridge between finding what you do. I 216 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: think the spiritual piece of us, like really leaning into 217 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: maybe our purpose or the things that light us up, 218 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: but then also wanting to be able to provide for 219 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: our family, live the life we want to live, not 220 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 3: worry about financial things, and there seems to be sometimes 221 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: a block there. Can you speak to that at all, 222 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: like what is happening maybe generationally? And then also like 223 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: is that accurate? Like am I is that just my 224 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: personal experience? Are you seeing that across the board at all? 225 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I Actually we're living in a whole new paradigm, 226 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: but we are still existing as if we're in the 227 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: old paradigm. Okay, So I think there's two things. Number 228 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: one is once you get on board with this, it's 229 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: actually easier to live via the new paradigm, which would 230 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: be you going out there and giving your value and 231 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: then and then you get paid in return for that. 232 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: That actually is a much more effortless path because whenever 233 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: we are in our flow giving our gifts, we're not 234 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: actually in expending energy. What we're doing is we're sharing 235 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: energy and that energy is coming back to us. It's 236 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: a lot like when you feel love in a relationship 237 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: and you're really in that and you are just like, 238 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: I just want to do this for you, and then 239 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: what happens is naturally it gets the light gets shined 240 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 2: back on you. That is a very neutral, very no 241 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: energy zone. And so the reason that people are exhausted 242 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: now is because that's what they're desiring. And the more 243 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: that we desire something we don't have, the more energy 244 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 2: we actually spend emotionally. And we do not know how 245 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 2: to quantify the emotional energy that we spend. So we're 246 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: spinning our wheels in this world of trading time for 247 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: money and going how do I do this? How do 248 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: I do this? When really all it's doing is shining 249 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: a light on what we don't have. 250 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: So that makes so much sense. Okay, So this is 251 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: where they say, like money is energy? Is that kind 252 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: of what you just described exactly? Okay? I've always gone, 253 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: well what does that mean? Money is energy? Because like, 254 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: I do so much energy work, you know, and I 255 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: really buy into all the principles around that. I still 256 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: feel like I have some blocks around money with energy though. 257 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: Well it's exactly the same thing as love. There is 258 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: only actually one energy. So we are just out here, 259 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: we are just trading energetic currency. And so what happens 260 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: is you hear this sometimes from people and they go, well, 261 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: I don't really need money because I have so much 262 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: love from my family and I have all the things 263 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: that I need, and blah blah blah. Well that's great, 264 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: but we don't live in an ore world. We live 265 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: in an and world. So right there, catch yourself. You 266 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: don't need to. You're not proving you love your family 267 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: more by being poor, So that's number one. The second 268 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: thing is it's exactly the same energy. So we don't 269 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: realize it, but we are energetically putting out the signature 270 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: and telling the universe right now, what type of abundance 271 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: am I willing to receive based on what I'm choosing 272 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: to allow. Some people have so many beautiful friends around 273 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: them that would support them and do anything for them. 274 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: That is abundant, and that's the same energy as money. 275 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: People who don't have all the money that they want, 276 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: the reason they don't have it is because they have 277 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: not energetically made an agreement. Nothing can get into your system, 278 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: your source, Nothing can get in until you agree to 279 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: it or claim it. Is the opposite side of that's 280 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: almost the same thing. We haven't energetically done that Once 281 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: we do that and then we start to see the 282 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: money come in, that is the opportunity and this is 283 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: where the spiritual investor merging comes in. That is the 284 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: opportunity for us to then look at our behaviors in 285 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: the three D world and go, Normally money comes in 286 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: and I spend it. Normally money comes in, or I 287 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: say or I hoard it, and I say, right, you 288 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: can catch yourself if you have the awareness in that 289 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: moment to change that behavior. It's the combination of allowing 290 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: more in changing the behavior and being right there ready 291 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: to go, oh no, I'm going to invest forty percent 292 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: of what just came in, and I'm not going to 293 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: put the rules on myself, and I'm not going to 294 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: make myself wrong. And I don't care if my dad 295 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: said investing is too risky. I am new right now 296 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: in this moment, I am showing up new and That's 297 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: what I'm going to do. And then you are literally 298 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: creating your own momentum. You are and you will rise 299 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: to a different frequency. And when you go out in 300 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: the world, people will start to say to you, you're different. 301 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: It happens every time. They'll feel it from you. 302 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: I can see that and what you just said is 303 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: one of the things I wanted to bring up to you. 304 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: But you say that building wealth is a form of 305 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: self love, which I just heard a lot of that 306 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: in what you just said. But can you expand on 307 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: that a little bit for the listeners. 308 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, wealth and money is abundance. We like to categorize 309 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: it as, oh, it does things to people, or it 310 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: causes certain things in the world, or whatever. If you 311 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 2: really think about money, money is just ones and zeros. 312 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: It's electricity, and we can even of course, there's digital money, 313 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: and then there's there's you know, we can even go 314 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: down that rabbitable. We don't even need to. Most of 315 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: us operate with a credit card. It's just energy. It's 316 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: just electricity moving around. It's only the definition that we've 317 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: given it that has elevated it to have all of 318 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: this power over us and all of this control. And 319 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: when we change our definitions, then we have then lowered 320 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: the resistance and we have shifted the power from what 321 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: we call money back to us, which we're source. 322 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: It makes sense that we've given it those definitions, though, 323 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: doesn't it right? Because money is equitable to power in 324 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: our current society set up. So how would we not 325 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 3: tie it to that, and how would we not say, well, 326 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: I have less money than that, so I'm less worthy 327 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: than them. How do you overcome those things? 328 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: Well, we don't. What we do is we say that 329 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 2: was appropriate for the time, for the old paradigm. We 330 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: also can do that with our childhood stories. I'm not 331 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: under the belief system that I need to take the 332 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: next five years of my life and get rid of 333 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: every single childhood story because I'm like, great, that story 334 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: served its purpose for me for a little while. I'm 335 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: not going to resist it. I am all about where 336 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: can I find the most effortless path in my life? 337 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: So we just have to acknowledge that was what our 338 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: parents needed to do. But are we making the choice, 339 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: because we're always making a choice in every moment, are 340 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: we continuing to repeat that? Are we choosing something new 341 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: based on where we are today and more importantly who 342 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 2: we are today? 343 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 3: What about scarcity mentality? How often are you seeing that 344 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: in clients that you work with. 345 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: I mean, we all have to have to have incentive 346 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: to do something right. So if someone is going to 347 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: say join the Spiritual Investor program or something, they're going 348 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: to need to have and they're gonna need to have 349 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 2: that pain point in their life right And it is 350 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: in general it is scarcity and fear with money. I 351 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: think people are getting jack of it. They're tired of feeling, 352 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 2: they're tired of worrying about money, and they're like, I 353 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: just can't deal with this anymore. They also see how 354 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: detrimental it is because we have normalized our worry about 355 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: money and it is in it. We can walk through 356 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: the grocery store and feel fear about money and it's 357 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: so subtle that it's pervasive. And the other thing is, 358 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: especially women, they are waking up to the fact that 359 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: they don't need to live on earned income. Like, if anything, 360 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: that's the riskiest move is to live on earned income, 361 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: to take a portion of your earned income and to 362 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: start letting it expand, because that's all investing is is 363 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: you're just agreeing to say, I'm going to learn how 364 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 2: to expand money. But it is for women, especially to 365 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: move beyond this belief that they don't know enough to invest. 366 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: It has been a blocked out, shut down world for 367 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: men and women for a lot of time because before 368 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: it was like you had to go through a financial advisor, 369 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: you had to have a certain amount of money, blah 370 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: blah blah. Well, of course that all dropped down. But 371 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: what I've seen is that typically men get stuck with 372 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: investing because they're worried about the results. They're worried about 373 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: their own performance and maybe I won't do a good job. 374 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: And women get stuck with investing because they sit on 375 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: the sidelines because they feel like they need more knowledge 376 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 2: before they're ever going to jump in. And then like 377 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: the market moved at twenty four percent last year, it's 378 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: up twenty one percent this year. Then people go, oh, no, 379 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: it's too late for me. So it becomes like its 380 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: own sort of self fulfilling prophecy, if you will. 381 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 3: You mentioned the paradigm shifting earlier, and I know something 382 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: that I was reading about with your work is quantum money, 383 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 3: and just like that whole idea, So can you talk 384 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: a little bit about that. What is quantum money? What 385 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: does that even mean? 386 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: It is a state of effortlessness, and it is when 387 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: you are going out there and you are fully your 388 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: authentic self. I do my hands this way because I 389 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: think of it like I call it the money conduit. 390 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: So basically, you have full opening, which is very similar 391 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: to a state of unconditional love. So you are showing 392 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: up in the moment, needing nothing. You're a conduit to 393 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: receive all. And what you're doing is you are creating 394 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: this from within this I will say value from within. 395 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: I mean, it's happening right now, you and I. This 396 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: is the only thing that exists in our world right now, 397 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: right we are here to help people move further in 398 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: their lives. Nothing, it doesn't, nothing else matters right now right. 399 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: So it's that state of being going out there, and 400 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: then what happens is the universe steps in and returns 401 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 2: that because there is always a state of equilibrium in 402 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: the universe. And when we don't get in our heads 403 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: about where does it need to come from, how much 404 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 2: does it need to come in? And do I deserve it? 405 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: Which is a lot of things most people who don't 406 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: have money really need to learn how to receive. It's 407 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: the cleaning up of that because we've all experienced this 408 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: where you're sitting down and you're having a conversation with 409 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: someone and they're like, how can I work with you? 410 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: How can I learn more from you? You're not even trying, 411 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: you're talking. 412 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 4: You can emulate that in every moment of life, that 413 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 4: is quantum money. 414 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: So we talked a little bit about about maybe women 415 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 3: bumping up against these struggles with feeling like they had 416 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: enough information to invest in wealth. And when you were 417 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: just talking, what was dawning on me too, is the 418 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 3: difference of my energy when I'm thinking I need to 419 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: go out and make money versus what you started this 420 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: podcast saying where you said in your first session, y'all 421 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: started meditating. And for me, they're very different energies. Like 422 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: I'm a hustler when I need to go make money, 423 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: you know, and it's like a I would say, a 424 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 3: very masculine driven energy within me, and then when I'm 425 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 3: quiet with myself and really trying to tap into my intuition, 426 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 3: it feels very feminine. So maybe that yin and yong energy. 427 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 3: Can you talk a little bit about that, where how 428 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: can we marry the two and like, are they supposed 429 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: to flow more easily? I'm assuming, So I'm assuming they're 430 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 3: supposed to be some balance in there somewhere, So can 431 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 3: you speak a little bit to that. 432 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: Yes, First of all, you're very intuitive, and this is 433 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: such a great question because I think so many people 434 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: they do I was just actually teaching at a retreat 435 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 2: in Bali, and I got this exact question. And I 436 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: think so many people are wondering, like where where is 437 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: that space where they can play in that feels fun 438 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: and familiar, because ye is, money feels like something that 439 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: you need to do versus like the meditation feels like 440 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I'm connected, Like I don't need to right, 441 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: it's just there. Right, there's a whole new way that 442 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: you can actually handle, deal and energetically connect with I'll say, 443 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: your money, and that is tapping into a space of 444 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: being highly creative with your money and also having your 445 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: money be really fun. I'll give you two examples because 446 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: I think sometimes like when I sort of bring it down, 447 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, in more of a tangible like, uh, for me, 448 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: I hiked the Camino in Spain last year, and so 449 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: my friend and I she has been part of the 450 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 2: Spiritual Investor and so we talked about investing and she's like, 451 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: let's talk about investing. So we got our backpacks, you know, 452 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: walking like twenty miles a day, and we start talking 453 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: about it in stocks and investing, and then she told me, 454 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: she's like, there's there's this gonna be this beautiful restaurant 455 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 2: up there, and we didn't know where it was, but 456 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: we were like almost at the end of the hike 457 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: and we see the restaurant. We're like, oh my god, 458 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: we're in such a high vibe state. And we sit 459 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: down and I'm like, this is the perfect opportunity to invest. 460 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: And she's like, what, we're at lunch or whatever. So 461 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: I pull out my phone because we can do all 462 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: this stuff on our phone now, and I start. I 463 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: was just I don't know, I probably invested ten thousand 464 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: dollars or something in different stocks. And I do this 465 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: all in about I don't know, three minutes or whatever. 466 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: And she's like, what, let me see that out at me. 467 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: What's happening right? She grabs my phone and then she's 468 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: like oh and she got She literally pushed her chair 469 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: back and she came to the edge and she's like, oh, 470 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: this is my new normal. This is what I am 471 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: going to do now. Because it was like she felt 472 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: the whole state of it. It wasn't as simple as 473 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 2: an example as this is I bring it up because 474 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 2: it wasn't even part of her world that that could 475 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 2: be so fun and feel just like flow, and so 476 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: it is, there is this beautiful space that if you choose, 477 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: and you do have to make some intentional choices, because 478 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: there's probably some muck that you need to get through 479 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: with you. There's all these things on your list. Maybe 480 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: some of those things you don't even need to do. 481 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: You know who knows you. We're only know when you 482 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: start looking at them. So that's one example. Another quick 483 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: example is, and this made a lot of money for me, 484 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: is that I actually had one of the very first 485 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: vacation rentals in San Diego. It was before Airbnb was 486 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: even existed, it was before it was a thing. I 487 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 2: was like, I've heard of this. There was three others. 488 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, it might work, it might not. I don't care. 489 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: I'll rent it full time if it doesn't. So I 490 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: bought this really designer, beautiful home in the historic area 491 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 2: of San Diego. Well then I decided, well, I don't 492 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: necessarily need all the money, so I started donating a 493 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: big portion of the money to horse rescues. Well, all 494 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: of a sudden, all these people from all over the 495 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: world started coming and staying, and they were telling people 496 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: about it and writing about it. And I kid you 497 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: not HGTV contacted me and said, can we showcase your 498 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: house now, Kelly. I can't take claim for this. All 499 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: I did was I moved in from a place of money, neutrality, 500 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 2: creativity and full power. I moved into that investment and 501 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: then the universe took over. Yeah, have repeated that over 502 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: and over in my life, because once you do it once, 503 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 2: it's like a feeling inside of you. You know how 504 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: to repeat it. You just got to do it once, 505 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: maybe twice because sometimes people need a little more evidence, 506 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: and you're off to the races. 507 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 3: Your whole it's combining, I love you said, combining the creativity, 508 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 3: the power. Like that's where the yen and the young 509 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: would meet is in that combination. 510 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 5: Okay, we are the drivers here, and so if there's 511 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: ever any separation in life at all, it's because we 512 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 5: are agreeing to separation. 513 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: Another thing just pinging in my brain, and this is 514 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: probably because I know I have a majority of my 515 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: listeners are women, and you said that a lot of 516 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 3: us are block is tied to receiving, and it just 517 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: dawned on me how no wonder women have a harder 518 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: time thinking that either they know enough or that they're 519 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: worthy of investing in themselves financially, because most of us 520 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: have been programmed from a very young age to give 521 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: more than we receive, and I have found in my 522 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: forties I've really been trying to lean into receiving. For instance, 523 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: if we tie it back to relationships, I think you 524 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: brought this up earlier, but I'm in a relationship now 525 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: with another giver, and I've always dated. But it's interesting 526 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: to watch me struggle to receive sometimes when it's being offered, 527 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: like I have to make a conscious effort to go, 528 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: oh wait, I can just sit back and I can 529 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: accept this, and I can flow with it in all 530 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: of those things. So how does that specific block tie 531 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 3: into money? What are you seeing with that? 532 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: Well, I'm so glad you brought this up, because it's 533 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: exactly the same feeling. So whenever you're in a place 534 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: where you are being asked to receive, it can feel 535 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: energetically awkward in your mind. Right, It can almost feel 536 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: like you could even get to a state where you 537 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: just want to walk out of the room and avoid it. 538 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: You don't even want to deal with it, kind of right, Well, 539 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 2: what do people do with their money? They do the 540 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: exact same thing. They energetically, it hits a stop point, 541 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: and then they energetically move away from it. They either 542 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: don't want to look at it, or something has come 543 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: up that's more of a p I already, Oh, I 544 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: don't have time to deal with the money thing. I'll 545 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: do that tomorrow or whatever. Right, we're consciously making a choice, 546 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: not realizing that we're just trying to energetically get away 547 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: from something that we actually can't hold yet. 548 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: So, okay, what are our first steps like For listeners 549 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: who are going, oh, wait, this has totally been my block. 550 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: I see what she's saying about the energy connection with 551 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: this wealth connection. Where do we start? What's our first step? 552 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: I would say a really good first step is to 553 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: look at what is the one thing that you've been 554 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: avoiding with money, okay, and no longer give yourself room 555 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: to justify that. So that would be the one thing. 556 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: I would also say that the second step, and this 557 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: one is really really key, and it ties in with 558 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 2: the self love, is you have to forgive yourself for 559 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: all the decisions that you have made, not that you're 560 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: happy with them. You don't need happiness and forgiveness. There's 561 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: things are totally different concepts forgiveness is being in tune 562 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: with what is to create space for new to come in. Okay, 563 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: as long as you are carrying the backpack of all 564 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: that you did or you didn't do before, or whatever 565 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: age you are, and you feel like you should have 566 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: been you should be further along by now, or how 567 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: will you ever buy a house in this market? Or 568 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: stocks have already gone up? There's always something. Everybody's got 569 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: their backpack. You can't actually bring more money in until 570 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: you drop the backpack because there's no space for the 571 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: new money to come in. So I think the third 572 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: thing is just building on top of that, is to 573 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: realize you're likely not doing anything wrong. It's not that 574 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: you're needing to do a better job at what you're doing. 575 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: It's that you need to let go of the old 576 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: ways who are avoiding and push money away, because that's 577 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: effectively what most people are doing. The money is inch 578 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: away from them. 579 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 3: As I listen to you talk, it is just so 580 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: similar to any energy work that we do. But I 581 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 3: just don't know that we've really I think you're one 582 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: of the first people scratching the surface of connecting the 583 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: two conversations, which is crazy because it is all the 584 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 3: same thing. 585 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: Yes, And so now can you see what I mean 586 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: by I said I live in the Gap? 587 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: Yes, I completely understand that. Well, I know we've just 588 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: basically scratched the surface for all the listeners. So the 589 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: good news is is Elizabeth has her own podcast, a 590 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 3: spiritual investor podcast. What can the listeners find on this podcast. 591 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: A lot of this living in the Gap conversation. My 592 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: whole goal on the podcast is you show up and 593 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 2: can you move one inch forward? And wherever you are 594 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: in your life, can you go back in your day 595 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: and actually, maybe there'll be something that comes up that 596 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: you just think a little bit different. Maybe you'll have 597 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: that little extra bit of confidence to do something in 598 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: your life that you've been putting off. And what I 599 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: find people do study the podcast and they listen to 600 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: it multiple times because it does go pretty deep into 601 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: the energy of money stuff. But it's like it gives 602 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: you kind of the feedback I get is it gives 603 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: you this feeling that like you're like, I almost get it, 604 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: but I know I need to I want to get 605 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: it a little bit more. 606 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, Oh, yeah, so you're 607 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: taking notes or going back and reading nine and you're 608 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: listening again, Yes, I fully. 609 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, So I love it. It's one of 610 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: my favorite places because I just go on there, Honestly, Kelly, 611 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: I just go on there and I'm just like I 612 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: usually to get into a fade of meditation beforehand, and 613 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, what do people need to hear right now? 614 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm just like whatever they need to hear. It's like, 615 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: the more that we all go out there and we're 616 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: just the conduit, the less we have to do in life. 617 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: That is the big. 618 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: Trick is that it's sometimes the hardest trick. I'm doing 619 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: air quotes about the hardest. But to let go of 620 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 3: the control and just show up sometimes is like the gift, 621 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 3: the key to life for me, at least, just be 622 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: the conduit, like you said, yes. 623 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: Be the conduit. I'll tell you the number one thing 624 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: that shifted my business from like literally making like because 625 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: I went from like making no money with it, which 626 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: is weird because I'd always made a lot of money, right. Yeah. 627 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: Well that's also this is another thing. It's not automatic. 628 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: If you've made all this money and you switch what 629 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: you're doing, you have to relearn, you have to like 630 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: meet a new version of yourself. 631 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 632 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 2: But what took me from making no money to literally 633 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: making a lot of money with this business is I 634 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 2: finally one day I said, I am not the best 635 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: filtering system. So I am no longer going to go 636 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: out there and think about how do I need to 637 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: spend this I was getting all caught up in the 638 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: I need. 639 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 6: To structure this video in a certain way, or I'd 640 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 6: be well to completely let go of If I have 641 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 6: something to say and I don't have on the right shirt, 642 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 6: I don't efn care. 643 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 2: I just get on there because I'm gonna lose what 644 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: I have to say right And then I get Then 645 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: I started getting the messages like, oh my god, are 646 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: you in my head? Are you in my in my 647 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: And then what I did is I just took that 648 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: into my whole business, whether I'm live coaching someone, I mean, 649 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 2: I was just so speaking of it and BALI whatever 650 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: I'm doing, it's not my job to filter. My job 651 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 2: is to manage my energy in a way that I 652 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 2: can show up as the best version of me wherever 653 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 2: I show up. And that is the way I live 654 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: my life in an effortless way. And the money gets 655 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 2: more and more and. 656 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 3: More funny how that works, isn't that. 657 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 2: Well? 658 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 3: Elizabeth? I thank you so much. I learned so much. 659 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to go back and listen to this podcast 660 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: and take notes like we just said, and also be 661 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 3: a new listener to your podcast. Where else can people 662 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: find you though, if they wanted to work, work with you, 663 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: or they just want to keep up with your work. 664 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Ralph which is just you know my name that's 665 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: on Instagram. I love hanging out there. I do stories 666 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: about my horses and my travels and stuff like that, 667 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: and I post uf about investing and all that there. 668 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: Or you can go to the Spiritual Investor dot com 669 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 2: where that has, you know, is everything from like a 670 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: free monthly thing to the program. I also run a 671 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 2: high level mastermind, so I like to meet people where 672 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: they are. So wherever you are, just know that it 673 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: is very important for you to be looking at your 674 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 2: money and learning how to expand money through investing. So 675 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: if I resonate with you, great, But if I don't, 676 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,479 Speaker 2: I would still encourage find someone who's going to show 677 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 2: you how to because I cannot even stress enough what 678 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: a huge opportunity there is right now in the market, 679 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 2: and it is it is all green lights on Go, 680 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: and it has been green lights on Go for the 681 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: last two years. But it's still green lights. It is 682 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: not too late for you. Okay. 683 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: That is a great note to end on. I will 684 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 3: put all of your information in the description of this 685 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 3: podcast for you guys. Thank you so much for being here. 686 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 3: I really really appreciated this. Again selfishly, it's always nice 687 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 3: with my guests are also like therapists for me, so 688 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: I really appreciate this. 689 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 2: Thank you me too. This has been amazing. 690 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 3: Thank you guys for listening. 691 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, 692 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: where we believe everyone has a little velvet in a 693 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: little edge. Subscribe for more conversations on life, style, beauty 694 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: and relationships. Search Velvet's Edge wherever you get your podcasts.