WEBVTT - Zach Attack with Gabi Elnicki 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.800 This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:04.640 with iHeartRadio. 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:10.240 Hey all, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today, we 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:11.760 have somebody that we didn't get to have on the 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.720 show when she was on the show. It is Gabby 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:18.119 l Nikki. Am I saying that right. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:19.720 Right? 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:24.160 The runner up from Zach season. We had so much 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.560 talk to you about about Zach season. Do you mind 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.640 you can do a little like nostalgia trip get into 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:30.400 your life today? 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:30.720 Sure? 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:35.120 I'm yeah, No, I've like it was a fever dream, 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:36.479 but let's let's go back. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:41.559 To it, okay. My one of my favorite questions to 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.360 ask people is when you get out of the Bachelor bubble, 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.720 when did you realize You're like, oh, that that person 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.320 and I were not actually supposed to keep you together. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:54.240 Oh goodness. 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.720 I think it happened pretty quick. I honestly think I realized. 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:03.160 I actually realized when I was there that he was 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:10.240 not my person. But you know, I digress, But I 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.440 realized there. But when I got back, I was like, 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.559 thank God, no offense to him. Like him and Katie 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.199 are perfect together and I totally understand them as a couple, 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.840 and like being so close with Katie, I get it. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.600 Much more now, Like just me, to be honest with you, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:29.880 I'm like not probably nice enough. I don't think he 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.720 could have handled like me because I'm like sassy and 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.600 like Katie's like very sweet and she's just a nurse, 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.080 and like I know myself, I'm like a little a 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.440 little feisty, and I don't think that we would have 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:44.720 been compatible in. 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:45.320 The long run. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.160 Like I'm really kind and really sweet, but I can, 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.400 like I like pick up people, like as a joke, 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:54.880 Like I'm very sarcastic, and I just don't know if 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.280 that would have landed well. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.640 I mean it makes sense now, right, Like everything you're saying, 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:03.480 you went the whole process. You realize you're not the 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.240 right person for him, and that would be maybe a 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:10.480 little confusing for some other seasons when the lead doesn't 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.440 end up with somebody. But you're like, no, I saw 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.600 with my own eyes who he is meant for, which 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.480 means he's not for me, which makes it easier to 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.079 move on. I mean, it makes it easier to just 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.760 be like that this was a fun season of life. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.560 Hopefully fun would be right, Yeah, And like I'm so 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.000 close with Katie and I'm so happy for her. We 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:33.160 honestly see like Zach the Bachelor as like a totally 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.359 different person than like her Zach that she has now 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.399 but we've gotten, Like I see Katie a lot and 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:46.040 just hearing about their relationship, it's totally different, and I 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:50.280 really think it's for the best. Like they've they're they're 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.200 very happy, and I think he's changed as a person 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.160 since the show, or at least from what like Katie 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:57.680 and I's conversations have been. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.960 I think everyone has. I mean, you're in this bubble, 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.560 and you know, he was. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.240 Having to be the Bachelor, so I'm sure that that 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.400 comes with so much pressure. So I just think it's 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.640 everything has worked out the way that it has that 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:12.600 it was supposed to do. 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:18.600 During your season, Zach kind of made Fantasy Week a thing, 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:25.120 and you were really the center of that drama. And 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.239 I don't want to get too into it because this 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:33.079 is the past. However, we're going into Fantasy Week. I 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:38.280 call it Fantasy Fantasy Week, the Fantasy sweet Week with Grant. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.200 What is your advice to him and all other bachelor's 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.200 and bachelorettes going forward. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.720 About this week? I think you should be called like 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:52.280 disappointment week no matter what, like just like you can't 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.120 do this right week. Yeah, like nothing's going to be 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.839 up to expectations no matter what we're talking about here. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.920 It's so true. You're damned if you do, You're damned 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:00.520 if you don't. 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:05.160 No one can do it like unless like and the 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.080 thing is at the same time is it is a 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:10.160 TV show, so like there is that level of entertainment, 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.960 right like and we all know that when we. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:13.760 Go into the show. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.520 But at the same time, like I was going on 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.800 to the show and leaving the show the same with 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.520 Katie knowing like I want a relationship from here. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:23.720 I'm ready for that. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.000 And it wasn't it wasn't just a TV show to us. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.400 And so like there's like a scene you see Me 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.840 Katie whispering to each other, and it kind of you know, 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.760 some people took it one way, some people took it 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:37.240 another way. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:38.960 But we like already. 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:42.520 Had talked about this like multiple times, like how it's 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.880 going to play out, and like how we feel about 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.119 going into it, and so like we were very close 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:52.640 friends throughout the whole season. I think it's that's the 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.480 part that really made me realize he's not my person 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.760 because he didn't protect me at all and that whole 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.560 thing because you you have to remember, this isn't just 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.360 a TV show, so what you say actually impacts. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.160 People in their real lives. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:12.240 And unfortunately I was, you know, I got really attacked 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:16.000 for that one. But it's okay, Like I've grown up 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.880 and I'm like stronger for having gone through that. But 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.080 I knew in that moment somebody who's like a real 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:27.559 partner to me wouldn't choose to not protect me because 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.400 there were private times where like I think he could 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:34.920 have had that conversation with Katie or he didn't need 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:40.400 to explain what his you know, proclamation was for the 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.479 week in my opinion, whereas like Ariel left and she 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.240 had heard the proclamation before and she didn't have any 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:50.040 idea what had happened, and so she was left being. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.240 Like, what's going on? 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.960 And it just was very evident in that moment, like 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.560 my privacy was not a concern to him, knowing that 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.200 like people can take this and use it however they 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.160 want on the internet whatever, Like people are going to 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:05.600 come for me. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:10.800 And I just think that really to me was like. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:16.000 Telling of like, this person isn't my partner, because I 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:20.599 felt like I wasn't protected by him in any capacity 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.680 where I know he was trying to be respectful to 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:23.560 Katie's feelings. 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.960 And I get that, I just and there. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.719 Isn't like, like we just said, like there's no easy 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:29.600 way to go about it. 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.640 But I do think he could have been a little 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.080 more mindful of me. 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.400 I think one of the things that came out during 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:40.520 Zach season one of the biggest revelations that I've met 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.880 Zach now, as you kind of mentioned as not the bachelor, 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.240 He's a very nice man, but I am going to 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.560 be critical of his season, but I also think it 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.359 highlighted something that we hadn't seen in the past, and 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.560 the leads as much. He was very influenced by Sean Lowe, 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.279 who was an amazing bachelor. He's a great guy. Both 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.240 these guys are dudes. I have nothing but good things 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:03.719 to say about both of them. But he was very 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.400 influenced by Sean low throughout the season, and I think 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.720 what we saw was Zach was and I don't think 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.520 he meant to do this. He didn't purposely do, but 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.360 he was inauthentic in his decision making because I think 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.520 he was trying to take an advice from the outside 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.080 of people telling him how he should go about his experience, 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.080 and as a result, it wasn't true to Zach, and 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.360 so it got confusing to him because he was like, 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.840 I'm gonna say this because I want to do this 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.480 because it feels like the right thing. Then he gets 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.960 in it, he makes other decisions because that wasn't really 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.559 what he wanted or thought he could do or wanted 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.560 to do, and then it ends up hurting all the 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.320 other people in the background. So we see in Zach's season, 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:49.680 your season is people get hurt due to in authenticity, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:51.400 and I think that's one of the highlights. Is for 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.760 a good lead now is you have to just be 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.840 true to yourself, like at least say what you're actually 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:59.640 gonna do and don't try to have somebody else's journey. 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.000 I agree with that wholeheartedly. And I think knowing Zach, well, 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:05.880 I don't really I guess I shouldn't say I know him. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:06.800 I don't hang out with him. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:08.280 I hang out Katie. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:14.600 So knowing Zach kind of I do think he really 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.760 he just wants a successful relationship, and Kim and Katie 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.240 really just want to have a life and a family 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.320 together and I'm so happy for them for that. And 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:27.480 I think he saw what Sean had and he has, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.680 you know kids, it really worked out for him and 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:30.560 he was like, I am. 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.880 Just blueprint, Like this is the blueprint and if I. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.360 Follow this, then it will work out for me as well. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.440 Well it did work out for him, so everything works 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.600 out as it should. But it does go to show 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.840 that you really do have to be true to yourself 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:54.880 in whatever it is, and you know it's it's okay, 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.640 but yeah, you can't just follow somebody else just because 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.320 you think it's the you know, the right thing to 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.120 do or that's what looks good or whatever it was. 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.679 But you're right. He is on the trajectory of being 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.680 the Sean Lowe and being the next guy after him 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:17.200 to be married to his winner, Ari is with Lauren. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.480 But Ari and Lauren that wasn't his first choice. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:21.400 She's the winner. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:35.839 Now do you think that Zach would have protected you 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.640 if you were his one? Like you think that he 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.600 just had in his head like, oh, it's Katie, I 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:44.480 have to protect her and like kind of screw over Gabby. 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:49.720 Maybe No, I don't think that because I've talked to 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.880 Katie about this and she was like, no, Zach's told me, 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.040 like even like now, like he really says he didn't 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:59.280 know until right before I knew. And I feel like 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.920 I pulled back because I was like, I was like, 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.200 no one who really loves me, no one who really 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:10.280 cares about me, would take a chance on not protecting me. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.240 And I understand you can be torn, but that doesn't 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:16.640 mean you like don't protect someone that you really. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:17.599 See a future with. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.360 So maybe he couldn't see it in that moment, but 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:23.040 I could feel it. I think there's like that like 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.280 gut feeling you have, and I was like, this just 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:31.000 isn't even if he that wasn't the case for me 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.280 a partner in life, that was a no for me. 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.000 Like that was kind of the final. 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.560 Straw, but I will say I felt that way and 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.440 I and I said to the producers, I was like, 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.360 I need to talk to him before I meet his 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:48.040 family because this isn't sitting right with me, and I 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.840 don't feel comfortable meeting his family until we like really 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:51.480 hash this out. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.480 And we had that conversation. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.560 And I felt better, and then meeting his family, I 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.880 think I was just craving like my family so much, 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.520 and I just missed them so much, and his family 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.400 they really are like I don't know, like the little 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.160 Brady bunch. They're like you can tell they're a family 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:10.720 that really loves one another. 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:12.360 And it felt like home. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.920 And so I think that like almost reignited my excitement 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:19.320 of like, oh, well, you know, maybe I do really 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.840 still care or like love him or I want to 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:22.440 be with him. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:26.960 But then I remember. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.640 Like really doing some self reflection to myself alone in 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.840 my room in Thailand because I had a lot of 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:37.800 time on my hands, and I just was like, this 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:39.200 is not your person. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:40.800 You know, this is not your person. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.760 So I really, like I remember, I like had so 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:48.199 much time to like mentally prepare myself for what was 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.959 to come, because I didn't want to leave Katie because 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.600 you're like in a you know, you're like against other 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:59.280 women and there's other people there and it's. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.839 A weird environment. And I knew that. 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:06.720 She had had doubts throughout the whole process, as everyone does. 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.480 That's so normal, Like you're like is this real? Like 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.959 am I in a Like am I dreaming this? 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:12.200 Like? 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.080 Cause it is. It's extravagant, like you're on these crazy dates, 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:16.040 like no one's going to take you in. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.800 A freaking helicopter, like, sorry, we're not living in like 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.120 fifty shades of gray, Like it's not happening most likely. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:23.280 I mean, some people are sure. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.080 I called it the Disappointments Suite. If this was a 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.520 real a week it's if it was a real fifty 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.640 shades of gray thing going on, then yeah, of course 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:32.800 call it the fantasy Suite. 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:33.560 Yep. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:38.120 Right, Well for some people, I suppose the Red Room. Yeah, 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:39.520 the Red Room of pain. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:44.200 Yeah, Gabby, I have I mean I can tell right 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:48.080 now this is such a distant memory to you, like 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.960 it wasn't that long ago, but like you're pulling out 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.360 stuff that I can tell is not like a fresh 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.400 in your mind that you've moved far past this. Yeah, 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.520 And I think that's where I want to like lean 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:03.160 into now. Now is you know, with your new relationship. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.400 And I believe your boyfriend right now is Zach right, Yes, 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.160 his name is easy. Good for you. He made a smart. 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.400 Decision, Like you must have laughed so hard when you 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:11.960 found him. 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.560 I was like, can we like change your name? Perhaps 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:17.120 it's a little too. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.640 Soon now for those that are listening, you know, who 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.920 know your story from the Bachelor, which we just kind 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.840 of walked through and but are unfamiliar now with this 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.240 new relationship. Can you catch us all up on who 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.480 he is and where your life stands today. Yeah? 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:33.839 Sure. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.920 So Zach actually was one of my friends in Houston. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.080 I have known him for a few years, which is 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.920 actually very nice because I knew him when I had 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.160 a boyfriend, and so we would go out together and 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.240 I got to watch him like in his like most 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.840 true environment of like you know, he's going out, he's 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.240 talking to girls, and I got to see him like 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:56.439 just how he acted as. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.479 A man in his twenties. 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.000 And he's always been just such a good friend to me. 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.920 When I went through my breakup that was really jarring 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.840 to me and required a lot of therapy to get through, 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.400 he really encouraged me to go on the show. He 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.120 was like, this is going to be really good for 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.000 you there. You you really can't lose anything. If you, 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.880 you know, come back, you'll you could possibly find someone. 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.840 And if not, like think about all of like the 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.440 people that will see you, and then you will find someone. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:31.200 And I was just crazy, like he was really just 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.120 like such a supportive friend through it. Him and my 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:38.040 other friend Macy and like we all three of us 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:42.000 would hang out a lot, and just like when I 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.880 got back, they were like two of the only people 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.560 that I felt like I could like trust because they 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.000 knew I was interviewing for the Bachelor and they didn't 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:50.640 tell anyone. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.760 They just like were kind of like steal fortresses to me. 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:58.720 And then like one night, like we were we just 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.800 went out to dinner together and I'll like, you're actually 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.800 like really fun and like you're pretty cute too. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.320 I like you, is that wait time out, do you 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:07.960 say those words to him or you're just thinking it? 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.400 No, it was in my head. It was in my head. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.920 No, And yeah, I guess just one thing led to 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.120 another and here we are. 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:18.880 But I will say it was really. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.560 Hard what one thing led to another? Like I need 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.520 to know the moment you kissed, Well, how did you 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:24.800 how do. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:28.200 You take this step from best like friendships to oh. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.880 Well you just get drunk. 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.240 We're being honest, Yeah, we just had a little bit 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.280 too much wine at dinner and then one thing wanted 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:40.080 to another. 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.040 That night that night, Okay, well. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.400 Yeah, but I've known, like you know, it was like, yeah, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:45.920 I've known him. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.680 Were you flirting with him beforehand? Were you feeling something 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:49.800 before this drunk night. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:55.280 Yeah, we definitely used to flirt and like he even 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.400 it's so it's honestly horrible to say when like my 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.760 ex would like not be if he was out of 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.560 town and we'd go out together, like he would pretend 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.520 to be my boyfriend, like you know, fight the other 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.280 men off, and it was never anything. But it's just 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.720 so funny that he was always like my pretend boyfriend 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:13.840 and then now. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:14.840 He's like my real boyfriend. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.360 So maybe I was like manifesting something like years ago 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:19.280 and I didn't. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:19.960 Even realize it. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.720 But yeah, I honestly never thought I was going to 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.400 date him. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:26.960 Wow, that's such a cute story. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:27.600 I love it. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:32.240 So now you guys have been together for two years. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:37.000 Not quite, I think it'll be. This is where it's like, truly, 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.320 I'm in like a time warp. I don't really know 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.040 what year it is. I think it'll be two years 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:45.120 in June. We like really started dating in June of 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.520 all right, twenty twenty three. 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.240 That makes sense, that's up, Yes it does. 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:54.760 Do you feel like this is your person? 0:16:55.680 --> 0:17:00.240 Definitely? I don't really see myself with anyone else. I mean, 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.119 I feel like this is just a really good, healthy relationship. 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:08.080 He's the first person I've really, like, genuinely trusted, and 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.080 I feel like that's the difference with all my other relationships, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.639 Like if he goes out of town on a golf trip, 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.960 or he's out with his friends or I'm out with 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.000 my friends, Like I feel like we really trust one another. 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.320 I never worry about, oh, he's not texting me back, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.200 he's at the club, like, oh he said his phone died, 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:28.480 like liar, Like it's none of that dialogue is going 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.280 through my head. And I feel like that's a sign 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.960 of first of all, maturity from my from me, so 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.639 I'm growing up. And second, I just think it's like 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:43.800 a healthier relationship. He's very supportive of me. My family 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.919 loves him. This is one of the first guys my 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:49.080 family has loved, like genuinely loved. 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.159 I was like after my last before. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.600 Zach the boyfriend before that, I was like, never again, 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.280 if one of you guys does not tell me that 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:00.159 you hate my my friend, like we're done here, Like 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.119 you guys are out of the circle of trust. 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.040 So they really love him. It's been really, really great. 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.320 You have a quote out there that says that you, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.160 I mean speaking to what you just were sharing that 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.680 with Zach, you never have to question. I think the 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.639 quote was like where you're at, like there's a piece 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.320 and a comfort there, Yeah, which I would say for 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.439 somebody who I just found out today. I've been dating 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.000 my wife for a little over six and a half years. 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.040 It is one of the like looking back, biggest factors 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:36.200 to knowing that it's your person too. Is that comfort, 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.280 that piece that comes with a relationship. 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:41.160 Yeah, I agree. 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.120 I think it's something I hadn't felt before, Like maybe 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.680 I felt like safe or like comfortable in the sense 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:52.040 of like like you're just kind of you're not doing 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.439 anything else but in you're comfortable, but not in a 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.919 good way, not in a way where you're like I 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.600 know where we stand, I know what the future looks like. 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.000 I know my future like has you in it, and 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.320 you don't want to be with anyone else you you 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.600 know some like if somebody I'm trying to think of 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.320 who my like celebrity crushes, if like Mick Dreamy walked in, 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.800 I want to be like, bye, Zach, I'm not sure 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:20.119 have a good choice. 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:28.200 So good choice. 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.840 Okay, So you guys just moved in together. Yeah, I 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:34.720 was that transition. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:35.040 Ben. 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.600 It was like a not quite a year ago, you're agoing. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.960 May No, it's great. He let me decorate. 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.800 He likes a big thing. That's a big thing. 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.440 Yeah no, he he was literally like, wow, I didn't 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.760 realize how ugly things were until you got here. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:55.520 And I'll take that, sir exactly. So he No, he 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:55.840 loves it. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.119 I mean yesterday we went to Barnes and Noble for 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.359 like two hours while I like chose out cook books. 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:03.920 And he was a very good companion in that. He 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:07.600 was like, honestly, I'm getting the food, so like, it's fine, 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.879 I'll sit here while you choose these cookbooks. 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.080