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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff, that's me three

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Speaker 1: and out. That's the podcast. I'm a guy colin Coward's

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Speaker 1: podcast network. We talked about football here and mostly national,

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Speaker 1: You know, on Thursday, we always go over the game,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I think it's safe to say we might

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Speaker 1: little bit, but I mean, what the hell are we

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Speaker 1: are getting enormous money, and you know, I'm comparing a

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Speaker 1: little bit of baseball and football. I'll do that. The

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Speaker 1: Heisman Trophies this weekend. Joe Burrow is the lock winner,

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Speaker 1: but I went over the last ten winners of the Heisman.

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Speaker 1: It's my personal favorite award. But I think the way

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Speaker 1: it translates to the NFL, and I think we've learned

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Speaker 1: just a simple reality, and then Sunday games will go

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Speaker 1: then like I always Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: is my Instagram handles same as my Twitter handle. The

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Speaker 1: d m s are wide open, slide right in it,

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Speaker 1: and uh I answer your questions here on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with Thursday Night Football and the Ravens

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Speaker 1: who just dismantled destroyed the Jets. I mean, the game

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Speaker 1: I really don't even know what would be a close

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Speaker 1: But we'll say, I mean, hell, they might not even

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Speaker 1: he's like, back in my day, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: officiated if changed, and the violence of these guys over

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Speaker 1: the field has completely changed. It's why these quarterback numbers

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Speaker 1: and the numbers we're seeing just throughout the league last

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Speaker 1: three or four years, see all these guys throwing for

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Speaker 1: numbers that were unheard of in the nineties. And that's cool.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I enjoy it. I have no problem with it.

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Speaker 1: And Mahomes last year fifty touchdowns, But it was just

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Speaker 1: you watched them, you knew, like, this guy is special.

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Speaker 1: You watch Lamar Jackson and you go, this guy is

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Speaker 1: is is a special, special athlete, and the questions on

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Speaker 1: It's a little him and Mahomes have that Steph Curry

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Speaker 1: Do you think they knew that he might be the

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Speaker 1: Brady Quinn was damn good too. All those guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: Brady Quainn and Liner were first round NFL picks. That

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Speaker 1: their bus that when you think about Brady Quinn, you

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Speaker 1: don't think about the NFL. You think about Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: When I think Matt Liner, I think scoring against Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame or some of the throws that the throw he

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Speaker 1: made on the play. Before I think about college, I

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Speaker 1: think about USC. Reggie Bush seek he underrated NFL career,

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Speaker 1: But when you think Reggie Bush, you think USC. And

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with that. Like if you if your

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Speaker 1: best moments in life are gonna come at USC, Alabama,

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Speaker 1: l s U Texas, you know, life could be worse.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at this award that Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: is gonna win, there's a decent chance, more than likely

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be like Brady Quinn, you know, or Matt Liner.

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Speaker 1: Just the odds would say more likely than he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. And I know that

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Speaker 1: they get comparing him to Tom Brady the other day

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Speaker 1: on the SEC Championship, which is absurd. But Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: to me, and I've watched him three or four times

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Speaker 1: this year, has been unreal. He is fantastic. I think

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00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: he's like a better version of like the Chiefs Alex Smith.

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00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: He's really accurate. He does not have a great arm,

450
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Speaker 1: really good athlete. I saw Daniel Jeremiah tweet one of

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00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: the best pocket quarterbacks or maybe the best pocket quarterback

452
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Speaker 1: he's ever evaluated. So he's got things they're gonna translate.

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Speaker 1: He should be a good NFL player. But we've also

454
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Speaker 1: seen where you go you are dependent on the offense.

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Speaker 1: He run, the coaching staff you go to as Carson Palmer,

456
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Speaker 1: who's been on this podcast before, be wary of that

457
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Speaker 1: franchise called the Cincinnati Bengal. So could he pull an Elway?

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Speaker 1: Could he pull an Eli? I'd recommend it. But when

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Speaker 1: you look, let's just look at the last nine winners, Kyler, Murray,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry Mariota, Jamis Winston, Johnny Menzel,

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Speaker 1: r G. Three, Cam Newton, I would say of the

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Speaker 1: guys that did not have a better NFL career than

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Speaker 1: they had a college career, Cam won a national championship

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Speaker 1: in college and was a one and done, like a

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Speaker 1: one year wonder because remember he got kicked out of Florida,

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Speaker 1: transferred to the j C then he was supposed to

467
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Speaker 1: go to Mississippi State, but then Ceze Newton got that

468
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Speaker 1: big old bag I think about two thousand dollars worth

469
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Speaker 1: and built that church. You know, Jesus doesn't judge, and

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Speaker 1: uh cam Newton had a better NFL career, and his

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Speaker 1: one year at Auburn was incredible, but he's been at

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Speaker 1: he was a star, Like that's the home run pick

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Speaker 1: r G three. You could argue what could have been

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Speaker 1: if he didn't get hurt, but it's clear his collegiate

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Speaker 1: career trumps his NFL career. He's now backup Johnny Men's

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Speaker 1: oelt not even close. Royal bust a lot of it

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Speaker 1: off the field, but with his skills have translated. I

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Speaker 1: always thought I remember his rookie year he tried They

479
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Speaker 1: were playing the Carolina Panthers as he started late in

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Speaker 1: that season, and he tried to run. I think it

481
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Speaker 1: was a Thursday night game. He tried to run away

482
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Speaker 1: from Luke Keikley. Luke Keickley caught him so fast your

483
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Speaker 1: head spun. It was like, oh my god, Johnny was screwed.

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Speaker 1: Jamis Winston a little bit of a polarizing guy, but

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Speaker 1: you would probably lean college he won a national championship

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Speaker 1: in college and he won the equivalent of the MVP

487
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Speaker 1: of their sport. His career has been very, very underwhelming.

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Speaker 1: Mariotta got benched in year five, so I would pick college.

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry another fascinating one because he won national championships

490
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Speaker 1: at Alabama. Was elated Alabama, but these last two years

491
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Speaker 1: he's turned into a damn good player and is being

492
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Speaker 1: franchised right now. Kind of an interesting guy to, you know,

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Speaker 1: argue Lamar Jackson. What's crazy? Is Lamar wanted as a sophomore.

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Speaker 1: His story is yet to be written, but it looks

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Speaker 1: to be pretty promising. Uh, he'll he actually unlike these

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Speaker 1: other guys that played at Alabama, Oregon, Florida State, Texas

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Speaker 1: and m I guess Baylor, you know, an Auburn that

498
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Speaker 1: Louisville honestly doesn't even feel like a Power five program.

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Speaker 1: I know it technically is. But he's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: way better start in the NFL. So i'd say Lamar

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Speaker 1: and Cam trumped you know, so far in their NFL

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Speaker 1: career and their edge careers are a big time Baker

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Speaker 1: and Kyler Jury's out, I would say more than likely.

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Speaker 1: If you were a betting man right now. Baker's career

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Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, the three years starting their multiple playoff appearances

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Speaker 1: in the Heisman Trophy, it's sure as hell doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like he is going to do any better in the

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Speaker 1: pros Kyler, who actually listen, I've been saying over and

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Speaker 1: over he's a really talented guy, and he was only

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Speaker 1: a one year wonder there and they didn't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But that one year at Oklahoma was pretty special. But

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Speaker 1: it does feel like he'll be a second contract guy.

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Speaker 1: I think my overall point here is this that winning

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Speaker 1: this award, which is really really cool, and you're you're

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Speaker 1: up there and the guys behind you, like Eddie George.

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Speaker 1: For every Eddie George, there's a Sam Bradford. You know,

517
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: there are guys that make a lot of money but

518
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: have very very and Matt Liners and they have underwhelming

519
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: NFL careers given the standard in which they left their program.

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00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: And I don't really have some hot take final statement

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Speaker 1: on this. It just really is a fascinating award because

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Speaker 1: everyone that wins it just like the guy is that

523
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Speaker 1: I've listed. I mean, the only non first round pick

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Speaker 1: in that group was Derrick Henry who went in the

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Speaker 1: second round, every other guy Kyler one overall, Baker one overall,

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Speaker 1: Lamar first round, Mariota two overall, James one overall, Johnny

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Speaker 1: uh in the twenties, r G three second overall, Cam

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Speaker 1: one overall. That's part of the craziness about this award

529
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: is typically guys go really high, especially quarterbacks. Right, So

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is gonna win this award, and what's he

531
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna become the draft time? He's gonna go number one

532
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: overall When you carry that in with you to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I do think they're and it I'd be fascinating to

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Speaker 1: ask some of these guys if there's an added pressure

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Speaker 1: of carrying that into the NFL. Because you're not just

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Speaker 1: a number one overall pick. You can't be any more

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Speaker 1: famous as a collegiate player. You win this award, that

538
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: means two things. One, you're dominating Utio. You're on a

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00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: really good team, so you're on a team that's more

540
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: than likely going to the playoffs, are in the playoff mix,

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Speaker 1: and you're the most famous guy in college. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be very, very difficult for Joe Burrow. I guess that's

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Speaker 1: my ultimate statement here, it's gonna be very, very difficult

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Speaker 1: for Joe Burrow despite having one of the greatest seasons

545
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Speaker 1: at l s U. And if they go on to

546
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: win the National Championship one day, he'll get a statue

547
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Speaker 1: outside of the of the football stadium at l s

548
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: U and more than likely that's gonna be the highlight

549
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Speaker 1: of his career. And at the end of the day,

550
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: there's nothing really wrong with that because even if he

551
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: is an NFL bust, he'll be the number one overall

552
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: pick and bank a bunch of money. Okay, let's dive

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Speaker 1: into the weekend's games because that's what we do here

554
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: on the Friday Show. Sunday's games Tampa at Detroit, the

555
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: Lions getting three and a half at home. The Lions

556
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: are a disaster, an absolute disaster to me. The only

557
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: question now, does Patricia and the GM Quinn make it? Uh?

558
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: The GM traded a safety to the Seattle Seahawks who's

559
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: become one of their best players on a team that's

560
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: ten and three. Every time I look up, Digs has

561
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: a pick or makes a big hit like he's sweet.

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00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: You traded him in the middle of the season, You

563
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: guys stink. Uh Tampa. You gotta give Bruce Areas some credit.

564
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: Jameis might throw a lot of picks and he might

565
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: be the first thirty thirty guys since Barry Bonds. But

566
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Speaker 1: actually that's baseball, you know what I mean. Thirty picks,

567
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns. Uh, just an unheard of feat. And I

568
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: don't know if he'll get there. Actually, I don't even

569
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna play this week. I know when

570
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: the media came in to watch Tampa's practice this week,

571
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: he was throwing a tennis ball. I think his thumbs

572
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: messed up. But I like Tampa to win. Mike Evans,

573
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: who's out with a hamstring injury. Uh, they should still

574
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: have enough offense. The Lions quit, They just stink. They're

575
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: just not very good. The Eagles, you know, I don't

576
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: ever remember a game this late in the season. They

577
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: came in with three white active wide receivers on that

578
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Monday night game. They ended the game with one. They

579
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: lost Lane Johnson. I mean, dudes were dropping like flies.

580
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: But when when you're playing the Washington Redskins, you're gonna win.

581
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: And Bruce Allen hopefully will surely be fired at the

582
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: end of the Sea season and Dan Schneider just goes

583
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: on a big purge with his football team because right

584
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: now a lot of people say the Bengals are the

585
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: worst team. I put the Redskins right there, Bears at

586
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Speaker 1: the Packers. This is a big boy game because Green

587
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: Bay is crazy as it sounds. They control their own

588
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: destiny for a home field by I guess it doesn't

589
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: sound that crazy because they've won a lot of games,

590
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: but I think for the eye test, they've been pretty

591
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: hit or miss, and mostly missed, especially the last month.

592
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Speaker 1: Their offense hasn't been that good when they the last

593
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Speaker 1: good team they played, they got destroyed by the Niners.

594
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: They didn't really play good first half against the Giants,

595
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Speaker 1: they didn't play very well last week against the Redskins.

596
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Speaker 1: The Bears. You know, as Mr Rubisky just getting hot

597
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Speaker 1: or is he gonna come back to Earth? What are

598
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Speaker 1: they gonna do this offseason with his fifth year option?

599
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: I thought, under no circumstances they could pick up Robisky's

600
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: fifth year option, But then he starts playing. Well, you

601
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: win this game, you may be beat Minnesota. You get

602
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: to nine and seven, it becomes a little harder to

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Speaker 1: turn that thing down. This game is huge. I leaned

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Speaker 1: the Ackers, but I don't know. The Bears have looked

605
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: like a new team these last couple of weeks, so

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00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm rooting for the Bears, but it would

607
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: be a pretty big upset. I know it's only four points,

608
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: but in Lambeau, this is a big boy game for

609
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Speaker 1: the Packers. Pass at the Bengals were onto Cincinnati. As

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Speaker 1: Belichick would say, I highly recommended watching that save in

611
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: Belichick documentary on HBO. It's just it's just freaking awesome.

612
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: But you know, the Bengals, I don't even know what

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Speaker 1: to say. If the Pats can't get right against the Bengals,

614
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Speaker 1: there are ten point underdog or yeah, the Bengals are

615
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Speaker 1: ten point underdog at home the Pats. They might be

616
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Speaker 1: wanted done in the playoffs. This is a type game

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Speaker 1: that they usually win by about Now, are they gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to score? You can't score against the Bengals?

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Speaker 1: Who are you scoring against? Tennessee hosting the Texans. This

620
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: is one of the more UH impactful games playoff wise,

621
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Speaker 1: on the docket this week. To eight and five teams

622
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: they have not played each other. They played each other

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Speaker 1: two of the last three weeks. UH the same exact

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Speaker 1: record this game. This game is huge. You know, I

625
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I know more about the Tennessee Titans.

626
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: They love to run Derrick Henry right down your throat.

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00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: They got Ryan Tannehill that will make some plays, and

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00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: they got a solid defense. And for Able's got a

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Speaker 1: sweet mustache. When I when I see the Texans, I

630
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Speaker 1: have no clue who I'm gonna get. Am I gonna

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Speaker 1: get the team that beat the living crap out of

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Speaker 1: the Patriots you know a couple of weeks ago on

633
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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football? Or Am I getting the team that

634
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: Drew Lock look like John Elway against? You have no clue.

635
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Speaker 1: I there's no team that I would feel less certain

636
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Speaker 1: betting on in the Houston Texans. This game's in Tennessee.

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00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: I would lean the Titans. But this is one of

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Speaker 1: those teams that if you told me the Texans win

639
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Speaker 1: by ten points, I'm not gonna be shocked. But this

640
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: is a game that I know this I'm gonna be

641
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: pretty locked in on. I can't wait to watch. I

642
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: can't wait to see who wins this thing. Hopefully I

643
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: get it here in the Bay Area, Seattle at Carolina.

644
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: As someone in the League texts me this week, I'm like,

645
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: do you think any chance Carolina can knock off Seattle?

646
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: Helped out the Niers a little bit, and they're like, no,

647
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: Carolina stinks. You know. They fired Rivera, they put Perry

648
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: Fuel as the interim coach. They made North Turner's kid

649
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: the play collar. They were down thirty three to thirteen

650
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: to a bad Atlanta Falcon Steam last week. McCaffrey has

651
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of come back to earth these last month. You know,

652
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen is turning out to be Kyle Allen. Here's

653
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: the thing, though, Seattle looked terrible the other Sunday night

654
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: football against the l A. Rams. I mean, they looked

655
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: like they were just gonna mail in the game, which

656
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: you go, okay, you get a mail in game a year,

657
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: but when your next game is three thousand miles on

658
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: the road, they lost. I've been hard on this guy,

659
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny, their backup running back from San Diego State,

660
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: but he looked really good the last three or four weeks.

661
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: He towards a c L. That's that's a pretty big

662
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: loss from him in the sense that man, they really

663
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: got to ride Chris Carson. Now you would think Russell Wilson,

664
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll going on the road, Carolina six and a

665
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: half point favorites kind of like Carolina plus the six

666
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: and a half, But you know, I probably recommend stay

667
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: away Denver at Kansas City. Kansas City, you know, is

668
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: starting to have the makings of becoming the hottest team

669
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: in the league. Uh, tough place to play in December.

670
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: I can't imagine they've lost many games in Arrowhead the

671
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: last three or four years under coach Read in the

672
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: month of December. Denver is one of the weird teams.

673
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: We've been saying it all year. They're much better than

674
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: their record looks. And now Drew Lock, I honestly haven't

675
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: really watched much of that game besides some highlights, but

676
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: his stats were incredible. Now he played the Texans and

677
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: they mailed it in. This is a little bit different

678
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: of a beast going on. It's always hard for rookie

679
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the road against you know, the best team

680
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: in this division in a hostile environment there. You know,

681
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: their defense has been a lot better. Chris Jones looks awesome,

682
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: Frank Clark looks healthy. I would expect Kansas City to

683
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: win this game, but ten points. It would be hard

684
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: even the even the plus ten for Denver with a

685
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, that'd be a pretty risky bet. I'd probably

686
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: just recommend to stay away Miami. At the Giants, my

687
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: only response is gross. I appreciate Brian Flores, he's coaching,

688
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: those guys are playing hard. Pat Shermer, I, I I you

689
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: can't pay me to watch this team. Uh, and especially

690
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: if Eli Man is gonna play, you can't move. Great story.

691
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: I root for Eli the person, but I just I

692
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: don't want to watch him play football. That's just I

693
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: feel for you, you know. I tweeted it during the

694
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: Jets game Beside the Yankees, I am so tired of

695
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: these New York teams, the Giants, the Jets, the Mets,

696
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: the Knicks. God, I I can't take it anymore. I

697
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: get they're the biggest media market in America. We're just

698
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: tired of watching your crappy teams from New York. I

699
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: think I speak for everyone that doesn't live in New

700
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: York City. Stop making us watch New York teams unless

701
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: they're the Yankees. Now with Garrett Cole, Aaron Judge in

702
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: that crew. But unless it's the Yankees. I don't want

703
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: to watch you. I just don't take your crappy teams.

704
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: Put them on a different channel. We're just give us

705
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: someone else to watch the Bills at The Steelers actually

706
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: listed this game because I used the site I got

707
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: it off of was before they flexed it. And I

708
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: think this is the Sunday night game. This game is huge.

709
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: The Steelers rate in five, the Bills are nine and four.

710
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Bills. I mean, Josh Allen's gotta

711
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: play better, and he did last week. If he's gonna

712
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: beat good teams, and the Steelers, I don't know if

713
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: they're a good team because their offense is still very

714
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: hit or miss, even with Duck Hodges, but their defense

715
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: is good. So Josh Allen, if he's gonna beat a

716
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: good defense, he couldn't beat the Patriots, couldn't beat the Ravens.

717
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to complete some passes past fifteen yards,

718
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: not overthrow guys by thirty feet. And when you only

719
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: get so many deep balls, and when I say deep balls,

720
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't mean like fifty yard bombs. I just mean

721
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: deep outs, deep ends, deep crossers in the NFL that

722
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: are open, you have to hit him and I have

723
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: zero face. I'm rooting for this guy, I really am,

724
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: But jeez, Louise, he's got to start completing some passes

725
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: when guys are open, or he's gonna lose this game.

726
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Duck Hodges ride in the wave. They're at home. The

727
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: defense is good. Steelers minus one and a half. This

728
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: is a tough game to pet it really is. I

729
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: just I like Sean McDermott now, toughest team is. I

730
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: just have little faith that Josh Allen go on the

731
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: road against a really good defense and get a win.

732
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: Jacksonville at the Oakland Raiders the last. We think it's

733
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: the last, because we never know with Mark Davis and

734
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: his stadium could always get delayed. But assume it's the

735
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: last game ever at the Coliseum, the biggest dump stadium

736
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: you'll ever find. But it's had some historic moments, not

737
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: necessarily these last twenty five years, because I saw someone

738
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: tweet only the Cleveland Browns have made the playoffs less

739
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: since the year the Raiders moved back to Oakland. So

740
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: since the Raiders have moved back to Oakland, over the

741
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: twenty five years they've been here, they have provided us

742
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: with just shitty football. I mean, there's no way around it.

743
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: A little bit of a slap in the face by

744
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: the NFL is very telling that they're like, oh, k Oakland,

745
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: your last game, uh, in the history of the Oakland

746
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Colisseum is the Jacksonville Jaguars. If that's not one big

747
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: middle finger to the fans, I don't know what is.

748
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: The Raiders are terrible, but there's a chance that Jacksonville

749
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: is even worse. I think their point differential is way worse.

750
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: Full has been a disaster there now with Minshew. The

751
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 1: biggest issue though, has been their defense. You talk about

752
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: a group that is quit every time I look up.

753
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I maybe I'm holding onto the past, but

754
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: I remember a couple of years ago and their defense

755
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: was really good. Now I've just see guys half assing it,

756
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: huge holes, no one tackling. How did they still I

757
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: get they traded Jalen Ramsey, but they still have a

758
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: lot of good players. How are they so bad? I

759
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: don't get it. I don't know whose defense is worse

760
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: in this game. I mean, Jacksonville technically as better players,

761
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: but at least the Raiders semi try. Uh. Just just

762
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: a terrible game. Feel for the Raider fans that they

763
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: got to watch their team leave against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

764
00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: Man Brown's at the Cardinals. Uh, you know, I'm I'm

765
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Nodell Beckhamed doubt, but I would imagine that

766
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: these guys, you know, Odell Beckham's on his last couple

767
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: of games in Cleveland. Baker Mayfield has just been a disaster.

768
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens and a fellow disaster, the franchises and shambles. Uh.

769
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: And they're going to play the Cardinals, who are not

770
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: very good that their defense isn't very good. Last week,

771
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray playing the Steelers, you know, a pretty good defense.

772
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: Every time he got touched, he was going down, balls

773
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: were flying all over the map. Whenever I flipped up

774
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: my eyes, I had him on the TV number two.

775
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: My question is, like Cliff Kingsbury made that much progress

776
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: because clearly Kyler can do some stuff. He's an explosive

777
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: little player. But their defense is awful. Uh. Is vance

778
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: Joseph gonna be their defensive coordinator next year? Or is

779
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: he gonna be a one and done defensive coordinator next year?

780
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, I got just many questions I had to

781
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: do about the Cardinals to do against the About the Browns,

782
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: Are they just gonna roll back Steve come and just

783
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: you know, roll off the ball again in two thousand

784
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: and twenty and just hope it gets better. I don't

785
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: see why necessarily it would. Atlanta at the forty Niners.

786
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, Atlanta one of the worst teams in the

787
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: league until about four weeks ago. They've actually, I think,

788
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: won three of their last four games. The Niners, you know,

789
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: eleven and two, second best record. I guess Ravens technically

790
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: have more wins, but best record in the NFC. Jimmy's

791
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: really come on, Kyle's really hit this thing into overdrive.

792
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: They sneaky, have a ton of injuries. They lost their

793
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: starting center against the Saints. Richard Sherman pulled a hamstring.

794
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: He's not gonna play. Quasky Tart, their starting safety has

795
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: broken ribs. DeFord pulled his hamstring again. He's out to

796
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They just they're losing body after body after

797
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: body after body. It's just pretty insane. Now the Falcons

798
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: put Calvin Ridley and I are they have obviously traded

799
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu. I think true font is also out this week,

800
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: but eleven points a lot for the Niners, who are

801
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: missing a ton of point It's, you know, just played

802
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: in an absolute blood bath of a game. Gotta be

803
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: semi exhausted. It's been a long season. The other thing

804
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: the Niners there by was Week three, so they've just

805
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: been playing week after week after week. You know, I

806
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: would expect the Niners to win, but don't be shocked

807
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: off his games a little closer than you think. Rams

808
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys, This one's tough, Like, are the Rams

809
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: really as good as they've been the last couple of weeks,

810
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: because we saw in the previous two weeks they were terrible.

811
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: Their offensive sputtered, they just look like a shell of themselves.

812
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 1: Their defense was given up points. But then they played

813
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and Jared throws for three yards in first half,

814
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: and they played the Seattle Seahaks the pretty much kicked

815
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: their ass. The Cowboys, who have lost three straight games,

816
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: it feels like they've quit on their coach. But are

817
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: they just gonna lay an egg to the Rams in Dallas?

818
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: This game? This game is weird to even project. You know,

819
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: I guess I would say Dallas is gonna put up

820
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: somewhat of a fight, But you can counter me and

821
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: be like, John, why would you say that Cowboys have

822
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: put up no fight the last several weeks, I mean

823
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: the last last week on Thursday Night football against the Bears.

824
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to use the word quit, but it was.

825
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: The effort was below average, that's for sure. And then

826
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: the other thing is with Dallas. If Doc is not

827
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: playing well and they're passing game and a Mari's limping around,

828
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: that's a problem part. You know, parts of the season

829
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: when they've played well, they were really really explosive offense,

830
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: and and Marii Cooper was having a career year and

831
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: he still is having a career year. But if he's

832
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: gimping around, they are not the same. So I don't know,

833
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: I mean I would I would lean the Rams. I mean,

834
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing Dallas win. That's the Rants aren't

835
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: totally dead either. For the playoffs. They need Minnesota to

836
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: drop a couple, but they're eight and five. You know

837
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: they can if they just keep looking like they've looked

838
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I mean, who knows, we've

839
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: seen crazier the Vikings at the Chargers. This is another

840
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: one of those games like who are the Chargers. I

841
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: thought the Chargers were full, absolutely god awful one point there,

842
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: four and eight. They're losing the Raiders. You're just like,

843
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: what is your deal? And then you come back and

844
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: I get your playing the Jaguars, but you you put

845
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: up all these points in the first half. Philip Rivers

846
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: throws four touchdowns. You know the video that went viral

847
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: of him yelling at him dock way about the ninety

848
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: yard touchdown. Were they the team that where he's just

849
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: gonna throw a bunch of picks on like Thursday or

850
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Monday night football. The Chargers are the one thing you

851
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: typically know about them. They're gonna be in a tight

852
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: game in the fourth quarter. But every once in a

853
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: while they'll have blowouts. Sometimes they'll get blown out, and

854
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: sometimes they blow out the team. They're one of the

855
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: most bizarre. Having just lived on the West Coast and

856
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,479
Speaker 1: seen a lot of Charger games over the last six

857
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: seven years, one of the more bizarre squads, I've just

858
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: the same thing happens over and over. But here's the thing.

859
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: They have a ton of talent that they really do.

860
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: From Keenan Allen to Mike Williams, even the Rivers to

861
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: the pass rushers to Derwin James coming back to Casey Hayward.

862
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they got so many good players they have

863
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: no excuse to win. You know, their final record ends

864
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: up being six and ten. That's an embarrassment, it really is.

865
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: And the question with them, like is is Anthony Lynne

866
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: gonna get fired? In the Minnesota Vikings. They have a

867
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: lot to play for now. They would know by the

868
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: time this game tips off. I guess it's not a

869
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 1: tip off, that's the NBA. Uh, this game kicks off

870
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: if my my writing this down correctly, that's in the

871
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: afternoon that they would know if the Packers had won

872
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: or were lost. And uh and yeah, so maybe that

873
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: motivates them a little bit, but I'd expect the Vikings

874
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: to win this game. Okay, let's go Middlecoff mail back

875
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: at John middlecoff Instagram handle. I'll bang them out quick

876
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: today because it's Friday, and I know you want to

877
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: get on to the weekend, but you may be listening

878
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: on Saturday, soe weekend is already here. Indy has to

879
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: give up whatever it takes to move up in the

880
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: draft to get a quarterback, right. If not, they'll surely

881
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: fall into eight and eight purgatory for years. Well, I

882
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: think next year if they can work on this offseason

883
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: on getting more explosive talent on offense, get another wide

884
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: receiver to go with t Y at another tight end,

885
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Eric Ebron. It's kind of weird the way.

886
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you're a Colts fan you followed this

887
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: closer than I have. But you know, Frank Reich kind

888
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: of called out Eric Ebron thought that he could have played,

889
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: and then Ebron said that he knew he was hurt,

890
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: and then he got season ending surgery. Like Ebron being

891
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: really good, Remember two years ago is a big deal

892
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: for them. So if Ebron's average and t Y is

893
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: always hurt and now and Mac was out, their offense

894
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: is gonna suck. They need to get explosive players on offense. Now.

895
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: There's a really good wide receiver draft. But say out loud,

896
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: just Chris Ballard feel like a guy that's gonna take

897
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: a wide receiver in the first round. Not really, So

898
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: that's where it gets a little dicey. They just they

899
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: just need to find a way trade for Odell Beckham.

900
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't really feel feel like a Chris Ballard movie either,

901
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: but that they need to get more explosive player is

902
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: on offense and then in two years to me, then

903
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: you can make a move for a quarterback if if

904
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: you can't make more strides with better players on offense,

905
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: with so many running backs being spent before their first

906
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: contract is up, and paying the big money to resign

907
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: them as a bad move. Todd Gurley, David Johnson, do

908
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: you think rookie pay scale should be lifted in recognition

909
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: of the shorter shelf life of guys that played that position?

910
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: A good running back can make an impact as a

911
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: rookie but can't last at all, along Frank Gore and

912
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson being except exceptions. The problem is, I hear you.

913
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: So let's say, let's say if you're running back and

914
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: you're draft in the firsts, your contract is double. Well,

915
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: what happens for every guy that's good, you know, like

916
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: a Christian McCaffrey, or a Derrick Henry or just you know,

917
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: like most of the good Alvin Kamara? What about the

918
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: guys that aren't like Sony Michelle. I'm sure you guys

919
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: can think of other guys that are just kind of average,

920
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: were odd Penny wasn't very good the first couple of

921
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: years until he tores a c L. I'm just trying

922
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: to think Melvin Gordon wasn't really good the first two years,

923
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: so I don't know how you do that. I totally

924
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying, but I just some guys are good,

925
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: But what are the guys that aren't. What about your

926
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: second or third round bus They just get paid more

927
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: even though they suck. That that's where I think it

928
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: would get complicated. So it's one of those things that

929
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: sounds good in theory, and I think there's some merit

930
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: behind what you're saying. I just think it's impossible to

931
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: actually execute. Hey, John love the pod. I'm a huge

932
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: Bills fan. Why is everyone trashing Josh Allen after the

933
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: Ravens game? Obviously he wasn't great, but his numbers and

934
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: passer rating around par with other quarterbacks facing the Ravens

935
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: since Week four, Wilson, Brady, Jimmy G. Watson, Golf, all

936
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: the terrible games against them. Bill score seventeen points. We're

937
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: the last second past breakup time. The game is just

938
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: people looking for affirmation of what they thought when he

939
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: was drafted. Look at the elite talent the Rave have

940
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: shut down compared to Josh. Also, he was sacked six

941
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: times and constantly under pressure. My issue with that game

942
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: for him, it was was when he had guys open

943
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: down the sideline. He's not even close that. That was

944
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: my issue. We're just kind of lay up passes. I

945
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't even lay up passes were kind of strong, but

946
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: just passes that a guy that's draft in the top ten,

947
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a franchise quarterback has to start making,

948
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of toughness, in terms of getting

949
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: sacked like yeah, I'm not not putting that on him,

950
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: and I actually don't put on him that their their

951
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: weapons aren't great, but part of their weapons not being

952
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: great and getting a bunch of little guys like you

953
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: can't surround him with a bunch of five ten, five

954
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: eleven wide receivers. You need to get some like Julio

955
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Jones type guys. And I don't obviously Julio Jones, but

956
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: I just mean big players or guys are gonna go

957
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: up and catch the ball like Davante Adams Juju was

958
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: like that. So when they when they draft a guy

959
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: here in the second or third round this upcoming draft,

960
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: you need to get guys with ball skills that you

961
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: can throw it anywhere and they can make the catch.

962
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: That that to me is who sh Allen. He's like

963
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: an Joan Bolden Crabtree, those type wide receivers. I don't

964
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: want little slock eyes. I need versatile, big weapons. Got

965
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: a fantasy question for you. Who do you think playing

966
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: McCole Hardeman or In Brown or A J. Brown over

967
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. And what do you think bells match

968
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: up this week? Not great spelling here, I would say

969
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: I would keep riding Hardeman and a DA Brown over

970
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. I think Odell Beckham Jr. Is just

971
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: a fantasy disaster, and I'm not even some fantasy master,

972
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: but I would not touch Odell Beckham Jr. And his

973
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: injury and Baker Mayfield with a ten football. I'd like

974
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: to hear your opinion on Lane Kiffin. Not sure if

975
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: he's the best coach Old Mrs Ever hired, but he's

976
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: definitely the biggest name I know. Colinists said that half

977
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: the SEC coaches are glorified Jim coaches. What effect if

978
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: any will Kip and have and will this be a

979
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: good move by Old Miss? Also love to hear your

980
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: insight and who you think why USC has failed? Well,

981
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: I watched Lane Kiffin's press conference at Old Miss the

982
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: other night. I was bored and I was just like,

983
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: I want to check this out. He sounded like a

984
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: new human. And I say this all the time about

985
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly, like why is why is Chip Kelly never

986
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: been humbled? Because he's never failed? Because every time he

987
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: gets fired, he gets a new job immediately. The Eagles

988
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: make him pack up a ship and Jed Yorke hires him.

989
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: Three weeks later, he's a disaster for the forty niners.

990
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: A year later U C. L A In Florida are

991
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: lining up the brinks trucks. It's like, when has he

992
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: ever had to kind of swallow his pride and look

993
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: in the mirror and be a little introspective and go,

994
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: you know what I need to change now? Lane Kiffin

995
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: is always had good jobs. But when he left Alabama

996
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator, and I don't know if he

997
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: just left on his own, like it was getting a

998
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: little ugly. And part of it was from what I've

999
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: been told is that remember Ed Ozern was trying to

1000
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: hire Lane Kivin as O C and under Land under

1001
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,479
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's dead body was he go and to allow

1002
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: Jimmy Sexton to have Lane Kiff and go to at

1003
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: ozer On. And I don't blame him, like Nick saved

1004
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Lane's career. So he went to f a U and

1005
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: became a head coach. Well, Lane's openly talked about f AU.

1006
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not getting five and four stars. I'm getting no stars.

1007
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: And they won double digit games twice. And you just

1008
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: listen to him, and he just sounds like a more

1009
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: mature person. And listen, I say it all the time.

1010
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: I'm a guy. I think the majority of my listeners

1011
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: are men. We mature a little later. And when you're

1012
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: when you're him, you're a famous guy, then you get

1013
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: really rich. That I understand why he got a little crazy,

1014
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: And you know, some people mature at thirty nine forty.

1015
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: It just I think he's gonna do a really good job.

1016
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: He knows the SEC, he appreciates the SEC, he knows

1017
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: that division, He understands recruiting in the South. He's obviously

1018
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: now worked in the South for a long long time.

1019
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: He's a good recruiter to begin with. And let's call

1020
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: it what it is. Oh miss ain't afraid to push

1021
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: the envelope. You know, the Mississippi schools they've been known to,

1022
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, have some brown bags behind them. And you

1023
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: know Lanes at Alabama, USC he knows the deal. I

1024
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: think it's gonna come down to can Lane coach. He's

1025
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: gonna get players. Can He coached toe to toe with

1026
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart, Jimbo Fisher, whoever the hell's on at ozer

1027
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: On staff Because in a I mean, I don't know

1028
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: how much longer Nick Saban's gonna coach. You know, obviously

1029
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: next year he won't have the team to compete with

1030
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: Alabama and the l s US. But maybe in two

1031
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: three years he'll get a bunch of talent in there.

1032
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: I think it's a really good higher And when it

1033
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: comes to see I think I saw one of the

1034
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: guys I follow on Twitter inside Troy Ryan Abrams. The

1035
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: top twenty five players in the state of California actually

1036
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: might be in Southern California. USC doesn't have one of them.

1037
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: That's that's unacceptable. You know, USC used to be like Alabama.

1038
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: What do you know what they tell you at Alabama,

1039
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: we choose them, they don't choose us. Recruit when you're

1040
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: at Alabama or you're at Ohio State, or I would

1041
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: say like wherever Urban's been at Florida or when he

1042
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: was at Ohio State. You know what might just be

1043
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: that at those handful of schools what Pete Carroll had

1044
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: at USC, they're choosing who they want. It's like the draft.

1045
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: They you don't choose them. There may be one or

1046
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: two players that you're truly competing. He might go to

1047
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: USC or Alabama. But Nick Nick Sabans getting the pick

1048
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: of the litter. Where you know, even at at Ole

1049
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: Miss and A and M you're you know, even at Oklahoma,

1050
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: you gotta compete a little bit. At Alabama they're picking.

1051
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: There's a reason they get five or six first rounders

1052
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: every year now part of its development. I'm not trying

1053
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: to diminish what Saban. It's actually a compliment to what

1054
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: Sabans built. But USC is the opposite. They're now competing

1055
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: for people. Really, the only program on the West coast

1056
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: that's like operating like an Alabama Ohio State right now

1057
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: is Oregon, and they are recruiting their ass off. I'm

1058
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: not a Niners fan, but I'm curious to how far

1059
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Speaker 1: you think they can go they're stacked on defense and

1060
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: have a great coaching and scheme. But if another playoff team,

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Speaker 1: aren't I going into a game thinking I have a

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00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: better quarterback almost every instance? Or is it a team

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00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: just as good and it won't matter. I would say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's look at the NFC. If you're playing the Packers,

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00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: they would think that. If you're playing Seattle, they would

1066
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: think that. If you're playing the New Orleans Saints, they

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00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 1: would think that. But if the Niners play the let's

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00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: say they lose the Seattle in Week seventeen and they're

1069
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 1: the five seat, the Niners will feel Jimmy's better than back.

1070
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 1: And then if the Niners play the Vikings, they would

1071
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: feel they have the better quarterback. But yeah, man, part

1072
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: of playing in the NFC is you've got Drew Brees

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00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, Aaron Rodgers Hall of Famer, and Russell

1074
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: Wilson Hall of Famer. So yeah, I mean it's that's

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00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: where the Niners they're not as dependent on Jimmy this year.

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Speaker 1: And when Jimmy plays well, they're unstoppable. They play they

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00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: score forty eight points. When Jimmy doesn't, usually they're d

1078
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: then steps up now like I said earlier, they're missing

1079
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: a lot of players. Sherman's out defords out. Uh, they're

1080
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: nickel corners out Tart, their starting safeties out, They're starting

1081
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: centers out for the season. They've overcome a lot of

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00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: injuries this year. I just don't know if you can

1083
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: sustain it. It's just difficult. Why won't the Eagles sign

1084
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: any wide receivers they desperately need, even besides a beat

1085
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: And who is the best wide receiver they should go

1086
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: after in the draft? I'm thinking Rugs the third. Well,

1087
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: who are the wide receivers they can sign? It's December twelve.

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00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Called Dez Bryant like, there's

1089
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: no one to sign. I mean Antonio Brown. Every other

1090
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: day he instagrams how the NFL is racist and wants

1091
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: to kill him and just madness. So no one can

1092
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: touch Antonio Brown. And at this juncture of the NFL season,

1093
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: if you could play, you would be in the league.

1094
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: So they just don't have any options. It's just part

1095
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: of the deal with all your best players getting hurt.

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00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: You're just the shitty part about injuries. You can just

1097
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: get screwed. If it happens late in the season. Yeah,

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00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: I would say speed. So any of the Alabama guys

1099
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: that can run rugs Wattle, Uh, there's due to Arizona

1100
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: State this legit. Uh. The Colorado guys injured a little

1101
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: too much. Jefferson, the kid at LS use a baller.

1102
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure Clemson has some dudes. Oklahoma ceedee lamb. Yeah,

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00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: they just I'd be a little surprised if my my

1104
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: guests on Howie is he signs a guy in free

1105
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: agency because they're they're going to Uh, Nelson Agilor is

1106
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: a free agent, Alison Jeffrey is gonna get cut, and

1107
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: Deshaun's gonna get cut. So cut throughout world, you know, hey, John.

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Speaker 1: Two separate questions. First, Big Nighters Fan, what do you

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00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: think of the current state of the Niners? After suffering

1110
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: so many injuries to the defense, the offense shows to

1111
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: be able to hang in shootouts. Do you think they're

1112
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: going to be finding themselves in more high scoring games

1113
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: with the current state of the defense? Second, after watching

1114
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,919
Speaker 1: the Monday Night game, do you think the Eagles could

1115
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: make a move for Odoll back them in the off

1116
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: season with their current wide receivers. Yeah, I would say

1117
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: the next couple of games. The Niners gonna need to

1118
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 1: score more points. George Kittle, Emmanuel Sanders, Deebo Samuel's, Jimmy Moster,

1119
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman that they got to score you know, these

1120
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Speaker 1: next game against the Falcons this weekend and then the Rams,

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00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: the game plan should be scored thirty plus. Because it's

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00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: it's hard to ask your defense. I mean, Nick bos

1123
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: is basically being asked to be Cleil Mac right now.

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Speaker 1: When I heard someone with the Jets like, you think

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00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: the Jets could go after Odell Beckham this offseason? Well,

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00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: are the Browns gonna just trade him for like a

1127
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: third round pick this offseason? Of course not, they're gonna.

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Speaker 1: If they are going to trade him, and he's gonna

1129
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: demand a trade that's coming, are they going to trade

1130
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Speaker 1: him for a first round pick? Like? Is someone going

1131
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: to offer them a first round pick? I haven't really

1132
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: thought long enough about it, but they got They gave

1133
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: up pick seventeen for him, which I thought was kind

1134
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: of crazy. I don't know if they get that back.

1135
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: You know, he's a year older, he's gonna have offseason surgery.

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Speaker 1: We think he actually has been on relatively his best behavior.

1137
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: You know, Bakers looked like much bigger idiot than O'Dell

1138
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: actually has been pretty quiet all season. The only dumb

1139
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: thing he's done is wore those were cleats or whatever,

1140
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: and the visor where he has to be taken off.

1141
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: But other than that, he's you know, he's had a

1142
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: pretty he's had a pretty good season for just staying

1143
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: kind of low key and not not pissing people off.

1144
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: Even when he's not getting the ball. He hasn't really

1145
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: complained publicly at least. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

1146
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: if if he's available, trust me a ton of teams,

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00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: there would be a dozen teams immediately that would be

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00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: highly interested, very aggressive to get him. For sure, because

1149
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: he's under contract, he's still an explosive player. You know,

1150
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: the defensive coaches on your staff would raved the head

1151
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: coach about how hard he is to stop. I think

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Speaker 1: they would be several teams interested. Appreciate everyone listening. Enjoy

1153
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Speaker 1: the weekend, Enjoy the Heisman Trophy ceremony, and then of

1154
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: course the Sunday games and uh Christmas, Hanukah not too

1155
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: far away, so we'll have to start celebrating the holidays

1156
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: up here on the show. Appreciate, Appreciate everyone, listening, and

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Speaker 1: I really do making this show what it's become, and

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Speaker 1: we'll just keep it wronging. Thanks so Ye