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Speaker 1: another season of college football, a new season of the

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Speaker 2: We have revamped the locker room of our own.

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Speaker 1: There's going to be a three headed monster that you're

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Speaker 1: Willie See will Compton, nine year NFL VET, debately ten,

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Speaker 1: zero time Pro Bowler linebacker out of the University of Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: Twenty and twelve all Big Ten second team coaches pol

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Speaker 1: joining me two studs Taylor Lawan nine year NFL VET,

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Speaker 2: And that's Josh Pate.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we made it. We're here.

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Speaker 5: Been doing this all morning, just been tapping, all happing away.

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Speaker 3: I went to bed last night. There were two things

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Speaker 2: That is for me, though, We get to sit with

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Speaker 5: This is Josh America. This is the American dream.

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Speaker 3: This is the American dream. And how lucky three quats

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 5: Only in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: Only in Nashville. T shirt Baby T shirt put it

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about the reaction of the collaboration

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Speaker 1: of busting with the boys in Josh Pat's college football?

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable?

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Speaker 5: So we did it the other day, I go to

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Speaker 5: the gym, show gets uploaded. Next day, I'm at the gym,

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Speaker 5: been there two hours, it's been up two hours, and

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Speaker 5: we're getting left and right comments. Love it. Man, Hey,

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Speaker 5: on the other side. So the neighborhood's talking.

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Speaker 1: The neighborhood is talking. I've been diving into some Josh

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Speaker 1: have to put a disclaimer out there that you got

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Speaker 1: paid for the show?

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Speaker 5: You do you do if I got paid for the

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Speaker 1: There's some trolling going on, there's some fun being had.

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Speaker 5: It's normally. It's normally people who have been in your

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Speaker 5: like haven't gotten back to them, right because you're busy.

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Speaker 5: And then the week later you do some random appearance

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Speaker 5: I wasn't. They weren't even talking about disappearance. And then

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Speaker 2: They're just sorry they got called out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's the dude you ratioed into oblivion. Then

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Speaker 2: His fault, man, he deleted it too late.

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Speaker 3: If you think you're getting ratio bad and someone's going

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Speaker 5: Thing, screenshat man, They got screenshot anything.

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Speaker 1: This is the first this is your first time on

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Speaker 1: It's went from a lot of levels, Like right when

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Speaker 3: You come up, your face says it all. It's like, yes,

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Speaker 3: Every single day. We're going I'm pulling you to the

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Speaker 3: Everybody who walks in this building has throwing a baseball

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Speaker 2: What busted? What the boys all about?

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Speaker 3: No, it's about truly meeting the standard, and we did

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's football season, so I have to take

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Speaker 3: But eventually we've got to go back again. Eventually, I've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it was a family affair. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: You've played didn't you play catch with Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely everybody's played catch with them. When you go out there,

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Speaker 1: You got the coaching staff, you got your teammates, and

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Speaker 2: I do you know how much work did we put

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. If you learned a lesson, you

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Speaker 2: You guys wouldn't understand.

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Speaker 5: It's okay. I told this dude to pop three night weil.

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Speaker 5: He didn't.

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Speaker 3: He went and just said the night quill. And I

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Speaker 5: No, I was trying to save you.

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Speaker 2: In New York? Should we just?

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Speaker 1: Should we let the Big Dog eat right out of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Josh Fate, listen, you're the uh you're

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Speaker 5: Right? Can I ask you this? So you said Texas

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Speaker 1: I don't is it lsu I For whatever reason? I

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Speaker 5: Like, hold on, if I were a detractor. Okay, so

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Speaker 5: you're you're you're not knocking Brian Kelly, but you're putting

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Speaker 1: I I so if I can be kind of personalized

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Speaker 2: You're right, like, what has he done?

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Speaker 3: That's what scaries one of the most about Texas is

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Speaker 2: I think he was the greatest things in slight spread.

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Speaker 3: He's got the pedigree, the bloodlines, everything, and now it's like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who every single, Saturday wakes up and they're saying

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Speaker 5: First off, you said the exact right thing. So if

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Speaker 5: He's never lived in the South in his life. He's

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Speaker 5: This Louisiana that doesn't matter so much. They're kind of

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Speaker 5: between Kaylin de Boor and these other dudes, he's six

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Speaker 5: for folks who think Alabama's just about to fade into

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Speaker 2: I think that's what people, a lot of people that

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Speaker 5: Fans kind of want the rest of the country.

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Speaker 3: The rest of the country wants because Alabama has ran

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Speaker 2: Like, where is.

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Speaker 3: The disconnect between Nick Saban and to Bor because they're

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Speaker 3: When Nick Saban will run extremely type ship and I

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Speaker 3: think we're so used to just feeling and seeing like

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Speaker 2: I'm like, do I go into Alabama? Do I buy

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Speaker 5: they've lost players, they got a new quarterback, at least

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Speaker 5: a new starter at quarterback in art so like there's

441
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Speaker 5: a lot of the questions you would ask about him,

442
00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,159
Speaker 5: But Sark said, we've been building towards this year, right, Like,

443
00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,840
Speaker 5: this is the year we've been building towards. All of

444
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,399
Speaker 5: these are my guys. The entire building is full of

445
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,760
Speaker 5: my guys. So even though we may be replacing starters,

446
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,680
Speaker 5: the guys we're replacing them with. Those are the ones

447
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,679
Speaker 5: we're banking on. Those are the ones we trust, Those

448
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,000
Speaker 5: are the ones we have recruited and evaluated and developed.

449
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 5: And he said that without blinking, and I just that

450
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,879
Speaker 5: burns in your mind because then you go and you

451
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,199
Speaker 5: do something like picking against Texas, and it's like, you know,

452
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 5: fractions of inches here and there. And I just don't

453
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,679
Speaker 5: want to find myself feeling stupid in December, because he

454
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,879
Speaker 5: gave me the answers to the quiz in spring and

455
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:12,880
Speaker 5: I just forgot about him.

456
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Speaker 1: I think it is like fractions and inches with those

457
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Speaker 1: three teams, Texas, George and Alabama. If you give a

458
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 1: nod to Georgia, it'd probably be the coaching staff. You

459
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,600
Speaker 1: give the nod to Alabama, They're probably the deepest. You

460
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 1: give the nod to Texas. I like, I think they

461
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 1: are equipped just like those other two teams. But I

462
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 1: think their schedule is the most favorable out of those three.

463
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,840
Speaker 1: They have the easiest schedule out of those three. Bama

464
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 1: and Georgia both have tough schedules. And I know it's

465
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 1: like Archie isn't proven yet, and I don't know how

466
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 1: else to explain the belief in Archie Manning because we've had,

467
00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,679
Speaker 1: you know, fortunate enough, we got to have Peyton sit

468
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 1: on the show and talk about the how they kind

469
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 1: of handle everything with ar Choice almost how level headed

470
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 1: he is, and the belief is just more so I

471
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,439
Speaker 1: guess latching on it. It's like you know when Apple

472
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: just makes a product and you don't know, you might

473
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,679
Speaker 1: not even know what the product is trust, but you

474
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: know it's going to be a banger. It's like the

475
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 1: Manings historic, like all of them, they've all been good.

476
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,960
Speaker 1: And with Archie, the hype there, the way Sark talks

477
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 1: about him, him being at Texas, all of these things

478
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 1: about him, it's just it's just a feeling of I

479
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: just believe it's gonna happen, and I that's why I'm

480
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,679
Speaker 1: going to go to Texas because again, I think they

481
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 1: have the most favorable schedule, granted everybody stays healthy. And

482
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 1: if Archie Manning is who everybody's talking about him being

483
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: being a Heisman contenter, he's the Heisman front runner right now,

484
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: but being a Heisman contender, and if that offense is

485
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 1: operating in sark system, I like them to win the SEC.

486
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 2: I think I think all of us.

487
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 3: I didn't take this team, but I think LSU is

488
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: a team that we're kind of all sleeping on a

489
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 3: little bit.

490
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Speaker 2: They got one against Clemson. Clemson.

491
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Speaker 3: I think JP drop this little NuGet to me yesterday.

492
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 3: Clemson hasn't won a home opener versus the big teams.

493
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Speaker 3: It's like twenty nineteen. It's a good opportunity.

494
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: Was that has won.

495
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Speaker 3: Okay, So that is the opposite of the opinion I

496
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 3: was going to have because I think two years ago

497
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 3: LSU's defense was abysmal. Last year they got better. I

498
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: think they take another step this year. They have the

499
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 3: most quarterback ready for the NFL and Garrett Nussmeyer. It's like,

500
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 3: can they take those step? If not, we might be

501
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: looking at a situation where you're halfway through the season

502
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 3: you're like, is Brian Kelly really your guy? Those whispers

503
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 3: started happening last year. My pick, and it's a cultural pick.

504
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 2: It's Georgia.

505
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 3: Before the show, we started talking about the wide receiver

506
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 3: room being the alpha in Georgia, which has never even

507
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 3: heard of the young guy. Like you have a guy

508
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 3: like Gunner Stockton who is waited, sitted back and kind

509
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: of just waited his turn. But I think you see

510
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 3: a guy like Carson Beck who kind of fits the

511
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: mold to Miami a little bit more a little more flashy.

512
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 3: Any guy who's gonna leave a program, a big program

513
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 3: like Georgia because of his girlfriend can't buy stalking that.

514
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 3: I don't want to be around that. Gunnar Stockton's the

515
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,479
Speaker 3: guy that's going to be able to get it.

516
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Speaker 1: They and when he'd go in the game last year,

517
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: whenever a Carson would get injured or someone so, I

518
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: feel like the team would like rally like, yeah, they would.

519
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 2: Be juiced for behause.

520
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 3: I think there was some talk of like kind of

521
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: way Quinn Ewers and arch Manning in a much lower sense.

522
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: Anytime Quinn Eures didn't do something great, everyone's like, well,

523
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: where's arts we should put archin. I feel like it

524
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 3: was a similar feel. Yeah, Carson Beck and Gunnar Stockton.

525
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 5: Remember this, they played Texas in the SEC championship game.

526
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 5: Beck gets hurt. Georgia is trailing when Bet gets hurt,

527
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 5: so Gunner Stockton comes in and with him at the helm,

528
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 5: they come from behind to beat Texas for a conference title.

529
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 5: It's not like they had a three touchdown lead and

530
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 5: they held on. That's the same thing with the Boat

531
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Speaker 5: Pribulla kid, who's the quarterback at Missouri this year. Penn

532
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 5: State was on the ropes on the road against Wisconsin.

533
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 5: Aller goes down, they have to come from behind with

534
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 5: their backup and win. So like whether it's Stockton, whether

535
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 5: it's Pabula, these guys aren't totally unproven commodities. They haven't

536
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 5: had the QB one tag for a whole year. But like,

537
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 5: you're right, And also he's a homegrown kid, he's from Georgia.

538
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 5: Locker room loves him, so they'll go to war for him.

539
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 5: They'll like facing the fan for him, over the cliff

540
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 5: for him. However, it all comes down to their ow line.

541
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Speaker 5: For me, like to circle back and I'm gonna give

542
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 5: you the state age back. But if you tell me

543
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 5: they've got a Georgia offensive line, I have no problem

544
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 5: trusting that kid.

545
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see. I have lean so much more on

546
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: the on the wide receivers in the ability. Like Mike

547
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: Bobo the OC, he is a guy that he's got

548
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: a little bit of criticism for it, but playing more

549
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 3: loudly than he is vertically. So if you run into

550
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 3: that Georgia offensive line in the locker room, huge day.

551
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: This thing was throwing up up there. But Mike Bobo

552
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 3: as the OC he has gotten the criticism you got

553
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: if you're if you're a Georgia Bulldogs fantas. He attacks

554
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 3: too much east and west, not so much north and south.

555
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 3: So as much as you hate the screens and the

556
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 3: bubbles and all those different things, they get a lot

557
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: of haye because they have aliens in the wide receiver position.

558
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: So I don't necessarily worry too much about Georgia when

559
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: it comes to their offensive line. They're gonna have their

560
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: five star guys. They're all gonna come from, like you know,

561
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: down South or corn fed boys, They're gonna get after it.

562
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: But if they have you know, Zachariah Branch and Noah Thomas,

563
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: So Zachari came from USC and no A Thomas came

564
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: from those guys step up and they gel. It's not

565
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: about Georgia playing great in September other than other than Tennessee.

566
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: It's about them playing great in November and December and

567
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: getting traction similar the way Ohio State did at the

568
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: end of the year last year.

569
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Speaker 5: That wide receiver room. Just those names you're mentioning, they

570
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 5: may just be names to people watching Georgia fans know them,

571
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 5: but they may just be names to people so you

572
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 5: think wide receiver, there's just like this six to one

573
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 5: and eighty pound kid.

574
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Speaker 2: In your head.

575
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Speaker 5: They've got that, but they've got some six four to twenty

576
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 5: in that room. Like they've got a variety of personnel

577
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 5: in the wide receiver room. And you were just saying

578
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 5: what we were talking about earlier. I don't want it

579
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 5: to just kind of get glossed over that you said

580
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 5: the wide receiver room could be the alpha room at Georgia.

581
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 5: At Georgia, think about how crazy that statement is. With

582
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 5: the running back rooms you've seen come through their defensive

583
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 5: linebacker every year. You wouldn't go like six or seven

584
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 5: rooms deep before you ever mentioned receiver. And yet they

585
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 5: were so focused because they led the league in drops

586
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 5: by a mile last year. Position led them down horribly.

587
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 5: So I think Carson Beck has a decent chance to

588
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 5: surprise people Miami this year if guys just catch.

589
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: The ball for him and if he's healthy.

590
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like like this side note, But if Georgia

591
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 5: they've got wide receivers that play.

592
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 2: Like that, you haven't seen that with them. We haven't

593
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: seen it, so we don't even know how the team profiles.

594
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then also Kirby Smart like you talk about

595
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 3: we bring up Nick Saban all the time. He was

596
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: essentially Lord Voldemort of college football for the longest time.

597
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 3: How you killed Baltimore, you got to kill all his

598
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: horse cruxes. That horror crux is Kirby Smart Like he

599
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: is just a living, breathing version of Nick Saban, possibly

600
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: the best head coach all of college football right now.

601
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 3: So it's like, how do you bet against a guy

602
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: like that who's proven it time and time again.

603
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 5: I'mlet me tell you the one thing that I have

604
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 5: in my mind, so Georgia would have been my pick.

605
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 5: This is the one thing that talked me off of them.

606
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 5: Barely their start, and they got a lot of first

607
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 5: or second year guys in they're too deep, more so

608
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 5: than Kirby's had to deal with, which you know, you

609
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 5: don't feel bad for him. It's just something I don't

610
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 5: think they simplify how complex that defense is, just because

611
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 5: they got younger guys, all right, So it.

612
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: Doesn't happen until it gets the middle of the year

613
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: and becomes a problem.

614
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 5: I think what happens in the middle of the year

615
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 5: is they get Texas and Ole Miss and Alabama. Rollery Athens. Okay,

616
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 5: so home fields definitely on their side. That block g's

617
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 5: on their side the way I see those games going,

618
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 5: if you had to, like you know, give one percent

619
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 5: edge either way, if you're trying to pick the conferences,

620
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 5: George is not gonna be a bad team. There's no

621
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 5: world where that happens. There is a world where they're

622
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 5: a really high level team, but you've got like one

623
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 5: or two busts per game or you can't quite get

624
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 5: home and you know, against against Kentucky that may not matter.

625
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 5: But against Steve Sarkisian's team and Kaitlin de Bori's team

626
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 5: and Lane Kiffin's team, you got some of the best

627
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 5: play callers in the world there, and Ryan Grubb calling

628
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 5: plays for Alabama. Like, against those guys, the difference in

629
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 5: that game is.

630
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: One or two blown assignments.

631
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 5: Those are the best in the world at exploiting young

632
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 5: guys that you're having to start on defense. So if

633
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 5: the league swings either way, That's what talked to me

634
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 5: off Georgia. But I'm just standing over here. I'm not

635
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 5: out of the room. I'm just over here saying, yeah, they.

636
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: Could still do it.

637
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: They could still do absolutely, So where are you going,

638
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: I'm going Georgia. Okay, yeah, yeah, I've talked about Georgia

639
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 3: for the last ten minutes. I figured that's clear, But

640
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to Georgia.

641
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 2: Tell you went on a rate about LASH. I think

642
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: in Alabama.

643
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: You sit there and you're talking about Texas, Georgia, Alabama,

644
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 3: It's like those are the three teams. It's like there's three,

645
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: but that fourth one is like three B Like it's

646
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: right there. And I think Brian Kelly could be a

647
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: guy has talked about no matter what, but whether it's

648
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 3: him losing a job or him playing for national championship,

649
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: like that's Those are the two different lsus we're looking

650
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: at this year.

651
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 5: And one thing I was asking you, the one thing

652
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 5: that I just wanted to have on camera on record

653
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 5: for when people watch this in December, is there is

654
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 5: a thought out there. You would see it in the

655
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 5: fan duel odds if you went and looked it up

656
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 5: right now, which is just implying what the market thinks

657
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 5: it is. Alabama, Texas, Georgia LSU like that's a solid

658
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 5: front betting for and then there's a little bit of

659
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 5: a drop off, and then there are like five or

660
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 5: six other teams. You got Florida, you got South Carolina,

661
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 5: a TENNISSE season there, And I just think that we're

662
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 5: in a new world where there's a lot of compacted

663
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 5: nature at the top of the league. And I don't

664
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 5: think people have recalibrated their minds yet. I still think

665
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 5: people think in terms of a lead pack, and it

666
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 5: could just be a lot of ten and two, nine

667
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 5: to three and we're deciding it.

668
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: Based on tie breakers in December, and you look.

669
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 3: At all the professionals that talk about college football, I

670
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: feel like every good team is ten and two this year,

671
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: Like we're gonna have like sixteen teams.

672
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 5: No one's predicting eleven in one for anyone, no aside

673
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 5: from their own fans, ever, because no one wants to

674
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 5: be on the hook for that. No one wants to

675
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 5: be in December saying how could you have ever predicted

676
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 5: anyone to go eleven wins in this chaos? Yeah, I

677
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 5: just think you're gonna have some eight and fours that

678
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 5: were really good. South Carolina just randomly to pick a team.

679
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 5: South Carolina could have the best offensive end defensive player

680
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 5: in the league. Sellers on offense, quarterback, and Stewart on defense.

681
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 5: At edge could be the best players in the league.

682
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: You say that with Ohio State, with Jeremiah Smith and

683
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 5: Caleb Downs, you could say that. In the SEC about

684
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 5: South Carolina, we haven't even mentioned them. In the league race,

685
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 5: we haven't even mentioned them. And I just think that

686
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: if you're looking at this like a ladder match, it

687
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 5: used to be you had a bunch of teams on

688
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 5: rung three of the ladder. Well, you can extend fully,

689
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: you can't reach the belt. I think a lot of

690
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 5: teams are on like the fifth rung where it's still tough,

691
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 5: but like if they fully extend, they're within reach of

692
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 5: the belt. There may be a team or two ahead

693
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 5: of them on the ladder. That's where you just gotta

694
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 5: take a knee cap out. But I just think the

695
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 5: leagues a lot more competitive this.

696
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: Year, and I've seen it. We got to get to

697
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: another conference. Before we get we get.

698
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: The show is already running extremely We're already doing what

699
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: we thought we'd do.

700
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: Big twelve, this this is Josh Bate's favorite conference. Yeah,

701
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: a boy, he loves sher Young twelve. I was talking

702
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: with Josh.

703
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: Before we got on the show, and the Big Twelve

704
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: it like That's where I've spent the most time because

705
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where I'm going to go,

706
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: like I have my pick, And as a matter of fact,

707
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here talking about I have my pick. I

708
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: forgot what pick I even delivered into the show because

709
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: I've went back and forth on so many different teams.

710
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: Because I was asking Josh, I'm like, what concept is

711
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: going to rise to the top with Kansas State. It's

712
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: like you are not with Can't State with the Big twelve.

713
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: My pick is Kansas State. It's like, I know the

714
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: floor of Kansas State. I'm familiar with climbing, got to

715
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: go out there when he was at North Dakota State,

716
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: and he's a massive culture guy. We know what we're

717
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: gonna get with Kansasate. Can they tap into a new

718
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: ceiling with Avery Johnson taking a step and making a

719
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: league because he had some iffy moments last year. They

720
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: go out in the portal, they round out some guys

721
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: in their wide receiver room, they plug some holes on

722
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Defensively, they're kind of you know, they

723
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: can be good, but is their culture going to get

724
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: them over the hump this year?

725
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: Is it going to be Texas Tech.

726
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: With McGuire, where they go out and acquire all of

727
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: these guys, build new facilities, have all the theatrics talking

728
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: about I know Josh should get into it with their

729
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: two and three deep what they have on defense. But

730
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: is that acquisition? Is that going to be it? Because

731
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: they're the most talented. Is it gonna be your boy?

732
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: Up in Utah? The Old Dog was a witting Kyle Winningham.

733
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 5: The motor only big twelve coach that the motorcycle to.

734
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: Work and they grab the the OC quarterback duo. Is

735
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: that philosophy going to win? Baylor Arizona State? Both of

736
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: those teams return a lot of their guys that they

737
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: had last year. So it's I have no clue where

738
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: there's gonna go. I want to say FanDuel has about

739
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: what two or three teams A plus five fifty two

740
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: or three teams A plus six hundred, Like there's like

741
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: six to eight teams that are all right there around

742
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: the same odds, and I have I have no clue.

743
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm going Kansas State because I kind of have a

744
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: soft spot with climbing. I do with Dillingham too, but

745
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: I kind of I've I've always enjoyed watching climb and

746
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: operate from a culture standpoint, and I feel like Avery

747
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: Johnson's really good. I feel like they have the talent,

748
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: they have some big boys up front, they have the

749
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: the trenches kind of built. So I'm gonna lean on

750
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: them and just hope they raise the ceiling this year.

751
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: But I could see, I could see Baylor, I could

752
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: see we can get in Arizona State, and I could say,

753
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not in love with Arizona State. Like

754
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: everybody else has talked about. I think Scatabo is gonna

755
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: be a huge loss. And I could also see Texas Tech.

756
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

757
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: So you you the defending Big Twelve champs ASU, You

758
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: think the reason why they don't do the same thing

759
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: they did last year is because they lost Scatibo.

760
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: So ASU is a team that returns a lot of

761
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: their production from the year before.

762
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: And I do I think.

763
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: I think teams have you know, teams have continued to

764
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: get better in the Big Twelve, like we're just mentioned,

765
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: and Baylor's return a lot of guys. Texas Tech went

766
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: out to get a lot of guys. You got the

767
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: culture of the climbing. You know, he's going to be

768
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 1: a three to four lost team at least. Uh So

769
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna have those And that's not even talking about Utah.

770
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: That's not talking about you know. I know you can

771
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: be high on on Kansas Iowa stayed with Campbell like

772
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: they don't.

773
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: They have a pretty favorable schedule.

774
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: So my thought on Arizona State is I think Scatabo

775
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: is going to be a bigger loss than people think

776
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: about because they were in a lot of fourth quarter

777
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: games last year to where they have scat plays. They

778
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: have playbooks for Scatabo to where you would have to

779
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: lean on Scataboe, Scatabo would have to make a play.

780
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: I think Sam Levitt is awesome. I just I don't

781
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: see them as like a clear year this is going

782
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in the front of this Big twelve

783
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: conference because I think everybody else is kind of calling

784
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: up to them, and everybody else will be able to

785
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: compete with.

786
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with some of the things you said.

787
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: I think my pick is going to be as U.

788
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: I think Kenny Dillingham Obviously I went to high school

789
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: with Dillingham. I got Charlie Vibes guy. Kenny Dillingham and

790
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: I mean this is a compliment. Reminds me of like

791
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: when you're all sitting with your friends watching football game

792
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: and you got the one guy that's like, hey, he

793
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: should have caught that, he should have done this. If

794
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: you took that guy and made him a head coach,

795
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: that's Kenny Dillingham, but with with more football sat like

796
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: he's in press conference that we suck right now, like

797
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: someone's gonna go three and nine, why don't we go?

798
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: He is a guy that allows his dudes to be

799
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: who they want to be. You got scatter Bow and

800
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: Levitt before the college football playoffs talking all this ship

801
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: in the world. Scatabo is talking about how he's the

802
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: best running back, not Ashton Gent. They're gonna approve a

803
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: whole things in a lot of ways. They should have

804
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: beat Texas. I think the big thing about Kenny Dillingham,

805
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: the big thing that changes ASU's culture, is that Kenny

806
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: Dillingham has publicly said and we all publicly believe he's

807
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: not going to go anywhere. And ASU for the longest time,

808
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: as long as you can remember, since like nineteen seventy

809
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: six when they won a Pac ten championship, every coach

810
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: has gone there has used a stepping zone to get

811
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 3: somewhere else. Now you have a place Tempi Arizona, fun

812
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: spot to be at. You got this blue Mountain state

813
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: vibe of Asu sam Levitz probably wighing up a little

814
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: bit hungover right now in a nice apartment in old

815
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: town Scott Sale with three blonds around him. He's getting

816
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: three point one million dollars at nil. He can sling

817
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 3: that thing all over the yard, and then everyone's saying, Statabo, scatabo, scatabo.

818
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: I made a couple of calls.

819
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: I looked around. I called some coaches. This guy named

820
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: Kyson Brown, they call him sip guy. Averages four point

821
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: three yards per carry. He's a fast guy. We're talking

822
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: about a ten to six type of dude. In the

823
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 3: hundred when he was in high school. Kanye Udo came

824
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: from Army. All right, salute the troops. Right after the

825
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: Army Navy gave he was the first guy to go

826
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: into the portal. This guy had eleven hundred yards, ten touchdowns,

827
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy nine carries. This guy is a

828
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: zone gap scheme type of type of guy that's going

829
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: to get downhill. He's gonna get those dirty three and

830
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: a half four yards for you. And there's one more canny.

831
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 2: Let me take a little peaks Ky Relieve Brown trans

832
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: from USC.

833
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: He was at a SU last year he got injured

834
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: in I believe it was camp rumor is from the

835
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: coaching staff. Guys healthy. He's a take the top off

836
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: type of cat. He's a dude that Sam lev is

837
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 3: gonna be able to wheel and deal. Throw it out

838
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: of the backfield, to put him out in the slot

839
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: a little bit, give him some screens and.

840
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: He's going to be able to have the home run ability.

841
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: All three of those guys.

842
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 3: Just because you have a running back room by community

843
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: doesn't make it a bad thing.

844
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: You need.

845
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: You got these three guys to take over for that

846
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 3: one guy, Camp Scoutabo. You've got the attitude, You've got

847
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: the ability to instill a culture and it has to

848
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 3: happen this year in the Big twelve. By taking over

849
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: and doing it two times in a row, they should

850
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: have beat Texas.

851
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not saying think you're disrespecting.

852
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: I think like, if you are who you say you are,

853
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 3: this is when you put you cement. It is right

854
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: now everyone's looking to ask you and being like pitchforks everybody.

855
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's plastic surgery and booze out in Asus.

856
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: That's what they do there.

857
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: Now you're able to turn to a football culture, and

858
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 3: Kenny Dillingham's that cat.

859
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you something no one told you in

860
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 5: Kansas City last night. I'm really proud of you.

861
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 2: Thank you.

862
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 5: You just you just rolled. I'm picking Arizona State. I

863
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 5: got nothing to add. I'm almost gonna be tempted to

864
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 5: mention other teams I didn't pick because you so thoroughly

865
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: broke down the Sun Devils. Kenny Dillingham could have watched

866
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 5: this and learned something about his team. That's how proud

867
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 5: I you.

868
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: You. You let everyone.

869
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 5: Else cook knowing I'm sitting on Arizona State over here.

870
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 5: When we get to Arizona State, I'm rolling.

871
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're rolling.

872
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 5: I do want to say this. You mentioned this team

873
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 5: one time, you said Kansas No one cares about Kansas. No,

874
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 5: they're just not in the middle of nowhere, and prediction wise,

875
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 5: they're out in the middle of nowhere. No one's predicting them,

876
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: no one's picking them. Uh. Jalen Daniels has been chronically

877
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 5: injured his whole career. He came back middle of last year.

878
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: Down the stretch last year, I thought they were the

879
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 5: best in the Big twelve. They were playing at the

880
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 5: highest level, but they were terrible at the beginning of

881
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 5: the year, so it didn't matter in the standings. But

882
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 5: I took a mental note, and then I checked back

883
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 5: in in spring. Hey, Daniels looks good. Check back in

884
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 5: early fall camps. So far fingers crossed, so good. That's

885
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 5: the team. If you're looking for someone to come like

886
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: steing from the rafters just out of nowhere, it's probably Kansas.

887
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 5: Utah makes me the most nervous because, like you said,

888
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: they did the Oklahoma thing. They went and got a

889
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 5: quarterback and an offensive coordinator from the same team. Now

890
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 5: in their case it was New Mexico. No one's paying

891
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 5: attention to that. Whittingham. All he was doing was win

892
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 5: the nine or ten games a year. They had one

893
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 5: bad year, and everyone wants to write them off again

894
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 5: because they're Utah, so they don't naturally get talked about.

895
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 5: But the thing with Arizona State that I'll go back to,

896
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 5: while everyone's talking about returning starters, and they do have

897
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 5: a lot of them, is can you believe that they

898
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 5: won like they did last year and no coach left.

899
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 5: You don't think there was a market for Arizona State staff,

900
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 5: I promise you, because I know the market, I know

901
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 5: the players. There were big, big market dollars. There were

902
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 5: big raises to be had for a lot of Kenny's

903
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 5: coaches to leave, and so Kenny did what he had

904
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 5: to do to keep him there.

905
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: But I'm going to tell you even then, it wasn't matching.

906
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 5: Dollar for dollar. It's guys who were all in on

907
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 5: Arizona State, so not just the head coach there. But

908
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 5: if you really want to talk about the impact of

909
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: a culture, it's how much does the program reflect the

910
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 5: fingerprint of the head coach? And top down everyone thinks

911
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 5: like him there, everyone acts like him there, at least

912
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 5: as much as they naturally can. So that's why they

913
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 5: peaked at the right time. Last year. I thought I

914
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 5: was State was going to beat him in the Big

915
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 5: twelve title game. They just drug him. And so if

916
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 5: they get in the mix, I trust them to peak

917
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 5: at the right time because I know they can't. I

918
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 5: haven't seen anyone else do that, so I think they're

919
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 5: going to be in the mix. I trust Arizona State

920
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 5: to be there at the end, I'm going to take them.

921
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: There's so much money in the state of Arizona, especially

922
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: in that Maricopa County Tempe Scottsdale area. If you're able

923
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: to replicate what you did last year, Arizona, I've been

924
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: on record sating this it's the most fair weather fan

925
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 3: state of all the states. Like when your team's great,

926
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: everyone's all of a sudden completely bought in. You see

927
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: it with the Cardinals in like two thousand and seven.

928
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: Two and eight.

929
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: If they're able to do it, then they're going to

930
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: have the money they need to get the high end players,

931
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: not the five stars who commit to the Michigan's or

932
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: Hot States Georgia's, but the ones that and then and

933
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: then transfer over to a su they're gonna be able

934
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: to get them right out of high school. Yeah, right,

935
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 3: right right out of community college, those types of things.

936
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: So this is this is a big year for the

937
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 3: next not just for this year, but for the next

938
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 3: ten years of ASU.

939
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Anything, anything, any insight on the Texas Tech that you

940
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: have that being in the weeds of the Big Twelve Conference.

941
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 5: That's the experiment. That's the experiment of college football this year.

942
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: Everyone else in the Big Twelve's pretty much built the

943
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 5: same way to varying degrees. Texas Tech is a totally

944
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 5: different animal. Texas Tech realized we got a window here

945
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 5: we can go spend. They did, and I just want

946
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 5: people like, if you know the Big Twelve, you watched

947
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: it last year, you will turn on a Texas Tech

948
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 5: game this year and you'll we'll see guys who started

949
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 5: for them on the D line last year that sometimes

950
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 5: are not even rotating in with their two's. Some of

951
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 5: them are bumped down to threes. They're not bad kids,

952
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: they're not character guys. They're not hurt. They just got

953
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 5: recruited over or in this case, portaled over. And there's

954
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 5: gonna be a lot to talk about offensive weapons. Their

955
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 5: D line may end up being the best in the conference.

956
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 5: And because they went to the SEC and Big Tenant

957
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 5: got all the guys, you're gonna look at the body

958
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 5: type I was in there building in the spring, Like,

959
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 5: if you looked at them, you would say, this could

960
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 5: pass for like Florida State, it could pass for Arkansas

961
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 5: or something like that, just where you would expect bigger bodies,

962
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 5: and yet they're out there in Lubbock, Texas, because that's

963
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 5: where they went to get them all. So then the

964
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 5: only question I had, I was telling you, the only

965
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 5: question I had is, all right, you just went and

966
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 5: got a bunch of individuals. Is it really as simple

967
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 5: as tossing them in a blender, pressing the button, pouring

968
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: it out, voila, we have a team. I'm skeptical of that,

969
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 5: only be cause history has told me to be skeptical

970
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 5: of that. But then history also says, hey, man, you've

971
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 5: never even seen anyone try this. So I've talked to

972
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: people in that building as much as I can. They

973
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 5: swear the vibe is as good as they've ever been around.

974
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 5: They swear it's not just a bunch of mercenaries. Like,

975
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 5: we've got a team here, We got a unit here.

976
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 5: Ask our quarterback he's been here for a while. Ask

977
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 5: him what his best group of guys he's been around is.

978
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 5: So it's August. People are talking like that in August,

979
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 5: live bullets flying. A couple of weeks, fast forward a month.

980
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 5: If they're still talking like that, that team's only gonna

981
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 5: get better, Like it's only going to gel. But if

982
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 5: it gets wobbly early in the season, that's my question, Like,

983
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 5: if they get cut early in the season, what kind

984
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 5: of team were you looking at?

985
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,560
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986
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,480
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998
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: get to uh ACC acc is many? I feel we

999
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 3: could be a little quicker with this one because I

1000
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: think we're all sitting in the same place with the

1001
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: ACC Clemson Clemson.

1002
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had one caveat.

1003
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: Okay, are you like you're you? Is Georgia Tech? Well,

1004
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech.

1005
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 5: But I believe if they meet him again in the

1006
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 5: ACC title game, like I would pick Clemson. Georgia Tech's

1007
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 5: my sleeper in the conference. Love the identity of the program,

1008
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 5: Love the senior leadership at quarterback, good player haines kiing.

1009
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 5: I think if they did nothing more than one the

1010
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 5: Georgia game last year, which was like a nine overtime game,

1011
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 5: everyone to be talking about him right now, which wouldn't

1012
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 5: change what quality of team they are, whether they wanted

1013
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 5: to lost that game last year relative to this year.

1014
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 5: But I am looking at Miami and they were so

1015
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 5: terrible defensively last year. They wasted cam Ward, just like

1016
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 5: LSU wasted Jaden Daniels, just like USC wasted Caleb Williams.

1017
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 5: You had that happened at Miami, all right. So I'm

1018
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 5: talking to someone from down there the other day on

1019
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 5: the staff, and they said, not trying to create hype.

1020
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 5: I'm trying to be really responsible with what I'm about

1021
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 5: to say. But he said, you need to understand what

1022
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 5: we did at dB, Like, yeah, we went hired a

1023
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 5: new defensive coordinator in Heatherman from Minnesota, but you need

1024
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 5: to understand we got one kid that's left over from

1025
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 5: that defensive backfield. We flushed the entire thing. OJ Frederick's

1026
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 5: the one that's left. He was the lone bright spot there.

1027
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 5: Last year. We portled in a whole new secondary that

1028
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 5: will end up being a strength on this team. If

1029
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: that person is right, then Miami's gonna be a real

1030
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: real player in this because Miami's got better line of

1031
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 5: scrimmage talent and Clemson does. They are probably a little

1032
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 5: deeper in talent than Clemson is. Clemson's frontline guys are great,

1033
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 5: you get past that front line. If Clemson encounters any

1034
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 5: injuries this year, I get really concerned about him because

1035
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 5: they get you cut into the bark a little bits

1036
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 5: really green, really quick. But if they can stay healthy,

1037
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 5: I trust him. I trust him more than a lot

1038
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 5: of the question trusts that I have with Miami. So

1039
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 5: that's why I went Clemson. But Miami's got to be

1040
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 5: in this mix. They gotta at least find a way

1041
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 5: to be in this mix they should have been in

1042
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 5: last year.

1043
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: Are you concerned at all with Beck's injury that he

1044
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: is sustained in the seas Championship.

1045
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 5: I am not concerned with the injury. I am concerned

1046
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 5: about them having to replace their top half dozen pass catchers.

1047
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 5: I am concerned about that, But I am The reason

1048
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: I go to the dB room is cam Ward rolls

1049
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 5: into the stadium every year last year knowing, yeah, I

1050
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 5: gotta hang forty today. That's what I have to do

1051
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 5: for us to win.

1052
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: Saying, and just Miami too, they just they randomly shit

1053
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: the bed. Yes, that's called inconsistency.

1054
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you can't play defense, so you gotta score

1055
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 5: every possession.

1056
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: Right, even against like Cow.

1057
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: And you go back a couple of years ago, it's

1058
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: like coaching staff mistakes during situational football. It's even if

1059
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: they do have all the things that you're saying, like

1060
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: if they have this, if they have that, it's still

1061
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: like when those moments happen, are they going to get

1062
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: over that hump and actually be a real contender or

1063
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: are they gonna shit the bed again?

1064
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 5: I think those are fair enough questions for me to

1065
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 5: go CLEMEMB because I believe in Miami this year. I

1066
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 5: don't think they're going to fall off. But Clemson's approven commodity,

1067
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 5: Miami's not yet.

1068
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 3: Can I ask you about Bill Belichick In North Carolina,

1069
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: Joe Ford, they feel like there's just going to be

1070
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: all of a sudden the major shift or is just

1071
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: so different in your mind that the NFL coach going

1072
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: to college.

1073
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 2: Is going to be able to shift the culture that quickly.

1074
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 5: Well, let me answer your question with a question. Do

1075
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 5: you think it's as stupid as I do? That people

1076
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 5: say college football is just like the NFL? Now? Oh yeah, okay,

1077
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 5: So if you think that's stupid, then you probably agree

1078
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 5: with me. Well, I don't know if you agree with me,

1079
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 5: But if you think it's dumb for people to say that,

1080
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 5: then you understand how different a world.

1081
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick's walking into.

1082
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 5: If you don't understand that, and if you're fifty thousand

1083
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: feet above college football and you see, ooh they got

1084
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 5: nil they pay the players, it must be like college

1085
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 5: football now, then you ignorantly think Bill Belichick's going to

1086
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 5: come in and teach college football a lesson. I happen

1087
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 5: to be on the other side of the fence. I

1088
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 5: happen to think that almost nothing about this sport is

1089
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 5: like the NFL up to an including the talent acquisition mechanism,

1090
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: where people have to choose you, even if you got

1091
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 5: money to offer, they have to choose you. So by

1092
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 5: my estimation, they're paying him ten million a year. And

1093
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone in college football gets paid ten

1094
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 5: million a year to go seven and five or eight

1095
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 5: and four. But that's North Carolina football. Historically, they're a

1096
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 5: seven and a half win per caliber or year caliber program.

1097
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 5: If you're asking me if he can do that, my

1098
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: answer is yes, emphatically, he can be what North Carolina

1099
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 5: has been. That's not what people are expecting. People are

1100
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 5: thinking he's gonna be above and beyond what North Carolina's been.

1101
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 5: So at that point, you've got to bring something to

1102
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: the table above and beyond. So at that point you

1103
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 5: would sell me on oh Man, the Belichick way and

1104
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 5: the culture that he's gonna end still and all this

1105
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 5: and that, and I'm gonna ask you where are the

1106
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 5: player's gonna come from? And you may sell me on, well,

1107
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 5: he doesn't need to recruit like Georgia or Ohio State

1108
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 5: because he's gonna develop. He's gonna get hateful three stars.

1109
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 5: He's gonna develop them. And I'm gonna ask develop them

1110
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 5: into what? And you're gonna say, oh, they're gonna be

1111
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 5: good football players. Okay, good enough to do what?

1112
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: Though?

1113
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 5: Because remember you didn't hire him to just be what

1114
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 5: North Carolina's been, just cut through it. You hired him

1115
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 5: to contend for a playoff spot. That means you've got

1116
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 5: to compete against other teams that are gunning for a

1117
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 5: playoff spot. And what you find out at the highest

1118
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 5: level of college football is it's not an either or.

1119
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 5: Like at Georgia, they can go get talent and develop it.

1120
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 5: Like they're good at recruiting and exes and those bam

1121
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 5: is good at recruiting and x'es and those Clemson ditdo

1122
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 5: Miami like, those guys are going to have players that

1123
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 5: are more talented than yours. And they can out scheme you,

1124
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 5: or they can make scheme irrelevant because they just out

1125
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 5: Jimmy you, out Joe you. So I am so not

1126
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 5: sold on them coming in there and revolutionizing North Carolina football.

1127
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 5: And you know, Saban coached into his seventies and retired,

1128
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 5: but he had been in the sport a lifetime. Belichick

1129
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 5: is coming into the sport for the first time in

1130
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: his seventies, so it makes him older than any three

1131
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 5: of his players combined, which is just a wild stat

1132
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 5: to think about. And ironically, this.

1133
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 2: Is the easiest schedule they'll have. This year's the easiest

1134
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: schedule they'll have.

1135
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, they may have the lightest schedule and the AC

1136
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 5: I just they play TCU week one, which is a

1137
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 5: team we never mentioned in the Big twe right, which actually, yeah,

1138
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 5: they're probably Shark Finn and win by thirty week one.

1139
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 5: I don't buy it.

1140
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 2: You're out.

1141
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm out.

1142
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: For those reasons. I'm out for those reasons. I am also, well, let's.

1143
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: Move to the Big ten, primetime conference, the conference that

1144
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: holds the last two national titles.

1145
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: How do we feel. Go ahead, I'm gonna take Oregon.

1146
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: And the reason why I'm taking Oregon is simple. It's culture.

1147
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: It's Dan Lanning. It's a guy like Dante Moore who

1148
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 3: is not He's been there for two springs in two falls,

1149
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 3: and he got to sit behind it, sit and watch

1150
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 3: Bo Nicks, watch Dylan Gabriel.

1151
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: And now he is taking the helmet.

1152
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: Every person, including yourself, who has gone to Oregon and

1153
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: watched him practice, say he is not going to be

1154
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: the issue this year. You look at the culture in

1155
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: the northwest of what Dan Lanning has been able to achieve.

1156
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: October twelfth, they play Ohio State. They win that game

1157
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: thirty two to thirty one. Last second quarterback for a

1158
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: hot State takes a slide time runs out the whole

1159
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: the stands, they pile into the stadium, they rush the field.

1160
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 2: Everyone's feeling it. What an opportunity it is for.

1161
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: Eighteen to twenty one year old kids to drop The

1162
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: next week week against Purdue.

1163
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: Instead, they put thirty five on Pue Perdue. It's zero.

1164
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: The week after that they play Illinois thirty eight to

1165
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 3: my eyes are bad.

1166
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: Nine.

1167
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: Then they go to ann Arbor, Michigan, my beloved Wolverines,

1168
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 3: And that felt a little personal because I know Dan

1169
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: Landing watches the show. They cover the spread all right,

1170
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 3: and they go thirty eight seventeen. So the culture that

1171
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: Oregon has is incredible. I think they're going to they're

1172
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: going to continue that step. They won the Big Ten

1173
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 3: last year. But it really comes down to the offensive

1174
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: line as well. Three of your five guys, your starters

1175
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: are transfer guys. You need them to gel. You got

1176
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: a guy in Isaiah world too. We're able to see

1177
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 3: it at the spring practice. Guy six a three fifteen,

1178
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: small ankles, small small hips, wives, white shoulder looks, the

1179
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 3: part plays a part. The guys a dancing bear. The

1180
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: offensive line coach, I don't want to fuck this up,

1181
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: but alak Terry.

1182
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: I believe it is.

1183
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 3: Got to sit in his team meeting room, tell the

1184
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: guys he loved them, talked about winning the Joe Moore Award.

1185
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 3: These guys are having conversations, being treated like an adult

1186
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 3: in a cultural atmosphere that I've personally never seen before

1187
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 3: in my entire life. Their bought in their stadiums, bought

1188
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: in the cultures, bought in Dan Lanny, He's not going anywhere.

1189
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: I love Oregon.

1190
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: I love Oregon, and I'm more confused about Penn State

1191
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: and Ohio State, which are your next two top dogs.

1192
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 3: And that's why I lean. I fall back on your foundation,

1193
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: which is always culture. I know Ohio State, we give

1194
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: them the benefit of doubt. They're always going to be good,

1195
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 3: They're always going to be contenders, and you know they're

1196
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: going to win at least ten games every single year.

1197
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 3: Penn State is a little bit of the opposite. You

1198
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: look at Penn State and you're like, they have so

1199
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 3: many returning starters. They lose their tight end, they lose

1200
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: Abdual Carter, who are both top fifteen picks. They bring

1201
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: a bunch of wide receivers in. But it's like when

1202
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: we first met and spoke about Penn State. You'd give

1203
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 3: the reference of three fifteen. So you're trying to max

1204
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 3: out and you get to hear some guys can do this,

1205
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 3: and some guys do this. This is not an indictment

1206
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 3: on them, but unfortunately, statistically, it just shows that Penn State,

1207
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: when it gets down to the nitty gritty of top fives,

1208
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: they can't they can't get that last little lockout in

1209
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: that three fifteen. So I have to give them. I

1210
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: have to essentially like you. But the Apple reference, Apple

1211
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: comes out, you buy the Apple. To me, Penn State

1212
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: is my Samsung right now.

1213
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 2: I see it.

1214
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: It's probably a great quality product. I don't know how

1215
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: to use it. I don't know how to look at it,

1216
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 3: so I essentially stay away from it.

1217
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: So I got a organ Joshua.

1218
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 5: Twelve hours ago, I was up at Penn State Washington practice.

1219
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 5: I first thing that stood out to me is Tyler

1220
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 5: Warren gone. I think they have two really quality tight

1221
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 5: ends there that America will come to learn this year.

1222
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 5: But still Penn State's had tight ends before. They haven't

1223
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 5: done what you're talking about, So that alone doesn't sell me.

1224
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 5: Really good looking offensive line sixty five three twenty five

1225
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 5: across the board. But they've had that before, so that's

1226
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 5: not to sell me. Good defensive players all three levels,

1227
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 5: a bunch of them play in the league. They've had

1228
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 5: that before, so drew Aller's back like they've had all that.

1229
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 5: The one thing they didn't have is a threat out wide,

1230
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 5: or multiple threats out wide. That is what has separated

1231
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 5: them from the big boys. No one scared a Penn

1232
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 5: State beating them throwing the ball. And I'm confident enough

1233
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 5: that that changed with the kids they brought in in

1234
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 5: the Portland watching the practice last night that I am

1235
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 5: going to actually pick them to win the league this year.

1236
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 5: I'll get to schedule in a second, but I'm watching

1237
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 5: them practice. They got a kid named Trevor Panna out

1238
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 5: of Syracuse, and they had to fight to get him.

1239
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 5: He makes two contested catches in indie stuff last night,

1240
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 5: probably better than plays I saw Penn State make all

1241
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 5: year at the receiver position. Remember this is a team

1242
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 5: that did not have a wide receiver reception against Notre Dame.

1243
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 5: That's a semi final playoff game. A wide receiver doesn't

1244
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: have a catch the whole game, like you'd have to

1245
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 5: try to do get on video games and try to

1246
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 5: be that bad. So I think they rectified that and

1247
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 5: then elsewhere. There's not much else that had to change

1248
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 5: because you said it. This is not a team that's

1249
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 5: a long way away. It's a team that needed to

1250
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 5: find the one percent. How do you lock out, Well,

1251
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 5: you go either get stronger or in this case, you

1252
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 5: go to the portal and you find the players that

1253
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 5: you needed. So outside of that, Oregon comes to them early.

1254
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 5: Penn State needs to win that game. That's week four,

1255
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 5: week five, something like that. They don't play any quality

1256
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: competition really before that. That's the white out game. They're

1257
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 5: not putting it at noon. It's the seven thirty kickoff,

1258
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 5: so they get the white out. I mean they've been

1259
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 5: like bloodthirsty for that for a while. They finally get it.

1260
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 5: Organ's taking a new quarterback, new starter at quarterback on

1261
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 5: the road, a lot of new guys. I'm the thing

1262
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 5: about Oregon went and watched them practice last week too,

1263
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 5: is I got no doubt about Dante Moore, Like you said,

1264
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 5: Decorean Moore, top wide receiver in the country. I believe

1265
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 5: he's a stud. He checks out, he checks all the boxes.

1266
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 5: Got no doubt about him. The wide receiver room downstream

1267
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 5: of Decorean Moore is not a weakness, but it is

1268
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 5: a question. And that early in the season, that's like

1269
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 5: that their baptism on the road. That's that offensive baptism

1270
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 5: on the road. And I think Penn State should win

1271
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 5: that game. And if they do, think about what that

1272
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 5: sets them up for the rest of the year. Like

1273
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 5: even if they go and lose to Ohio State, they're

1274
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 5: probably still in Indianapolis. Penn State is one of the

1275
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 5: surest playoff teams this year, but they've already been that.

1276
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 5: We're looking to get them over the hump in the conference.

1277
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 5: I just, man, there's so much solid, like dependable assets

1278
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 5: about that team. The one variable they answered enough at

1279
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 5: wide receiver to where I'm doing it. I'm buying them.

1280
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: I think you laid it out perfectly.

1281
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: I think it's those two teams because you're completely right

1282
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: about Oregon, the culture, everything going on, the talent that

1283
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: they have on the roster, and you brought it up

1284
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: the wide receiver room.

1285
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 2: They go, I get the cat from what was it, Syracuse,

1286
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: Troy USCUSC.

1287
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: They went and got a starting backer from North Carolina

1288
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: to plug on defense. They're returning a lot of they're

1289
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: all big ten guys on defense. They return. He talked

1290
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: about the size of the offensive line. Four out of

1291
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: five return. They got an All American backfield. You mentioned

1292
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: the tight ends. They have every piece. To me, it's

1293
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: not like to me, it comes down to James Franklin.

1294
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: Is he a fraud with a roster like this. I

1295
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: feel like this is the year he goes out. He's

1296
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: a coordinator, merchant. He goes out against Jim Knowles from

1297
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: Ohio State, arguably what's talked about him being one of

1298
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: the best game planners on the defensive side in college football.

1299
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: You go out and get Jim Knowles. You have all

1300
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: these guys returning on defense, you have all of it

1301
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: on offense. And I do think Drew Aler also makes

1302
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: a jump, not in the sense of he's going to

1303
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 1: be just this better all around player. He's gotten better

1304
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: with his arm, he's gotten better with his feet and

1305
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: everything else. I just think the year that you can

1306
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: have if Drew Rowler is a guy that's in the

1307
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: film room, and it seems like he is, but you

1308
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: make a jump from going you're working with an oc

1309
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: in year one, now they're in year two together.

1310
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: You go to front. You go from photogenetic memory pattern matching.

1311
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: To you feel prepared all season going to play to

1312
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: now you have another year in the system, more watching film,

1313
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: seeing what the defense is trying to do to you,

1314
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: to where you are better at anticipating the game versus

1315
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: I need to get prepared for this game and having

1316
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: the roll decks of calls that the coach has given me.

1317
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: I think this is the year for Penn State because

1318
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: again they filled those holes at the wide receiver spot.

1319
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: You said you saw them in person yesterday, So I

1320
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: trust that this.

1321
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: Is the year they win the Big ten. I also

1322
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: know I know exactly where you're going to take a moment.

1323
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: If the national championship is gonna stay in the Big ten,

1324
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: I think it is with Penn State.

1325
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 5: That's what I want you understand. Just let it be known.

1326
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: Because this not only not only it's like I'm buying

1327
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: all the Penn State stock, but I when you see

1328
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: all of this shit on paper, this is the put

1329
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: up or shut up year for James Franklin.

1330
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: Being surrounded by all of these goons.

1331
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: He's orchestrated an incredible roster from top to bottom. This

1332
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 1: is the year to where you know, Penn State fans

1333
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: are out there right now just being like, we're gonna

1334
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: be a two loss, We're gonna be a three loss team,

1335
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: and Havasus every year, Havasus. This is the year where

1336
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: if it happened again, if they're a two or three

1337
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: lost team again in a bad fashion, he's got to

1338
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: absolutely be on the hot seat.

1339
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 3: In my opinion, this might be a dumb question, but

1340
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: at what point is it too much too much for

1341
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: Franklin being one in fifteen versus top fifteen teams, being

1342
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: two in whatever ten versus top ten teams where he's

1343
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: got the roster. Now he has literally set himself up

1344
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 3: in such a big way where it's like, if you

1345
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: don't do this, you are not the coach for Penn State.

1346
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 5: I had him on the show last night. I asked

1347
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 5: him this to his face. I said, for a long time,

1348
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 5: they said Kirby couldn't win the big one, then he

1349
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 5: won one, he won two. Then they said Ryan Day

1350
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 5: couldn't win the big one. Then Ryan just won one

1351
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 5: last year. Now they're saying about you. He's just I'm

1352
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 5: just sitting there talking to him like I'm talking to you,

1353
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 5: and said, so that's pressure. Is it fair? Is it unfair? Like?

1354
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 5: How do you feel about it? And he said, well,

1355
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 5: first off, I can't listen to it, but like I

1356
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 5: took the job for that. I coach here for that,

1357
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 5: so I welcome the pressure. He said, you don't put

1358
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 5: one hundred and ten thousand people in a building because

1359
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 5: they're all normal insane. So if I'm gonna get paid

1360
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 5: what I get paid, I'm gonna have the job I have.

1361
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 5: That's gonna come with it. He said the same thing

1362
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 5: about Drew. You're gonna give you the quarterback at Penn State.

1363
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 5: It's not good enough to just win nine, win ten games.

1364
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 5: So the Franklin conversation has always been really funny to

1365
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 5: me because there are people out there who get mad

1366
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 5: that he doesn't win those few big games and they

1367
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 5: call him overrated, which I don't believe in because no

1368
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 5: one's ever rated him above Ryan Day, no one's ever

1369
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 5: rated him above Kirby Smart, no one's ever rated him

1370
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 5: above Saban when Saban was still around. They rate him

1371
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 5: like fifth or sixth or seventh. That's about where people

1372
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 5: would rate James Franklin, which is about where he is.

1373
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 5: He beats everyone he's supposed to beat the only ones

1374
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 5: he runs into that's an l is Ohio State or

1375
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 5: you got an Oregon last year. So he's like ninety

1376
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 5: fifth percentile in a world where we're trying to get

1377
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 5: into the ninety ninth percentile. And the other thing you

1378
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 5: just said is if you could handpick like the year

1379
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 5: for Penn State to have their best squad, this is it. Yeah,

1380
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 5: I mean Ohio State. I don't know how much they

1381
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 5: come back to earth, but that team lost two games

1382
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 5: last year with that full squad, So now you got

1383
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 5: a lot of newness. That's the year you want to

1384
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 5: have your squad. You got to go in their building.

1385
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 5: But they don't know what they are yet. Now what

1386
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 5: we do know blindly is they're gonna have a ton

1387
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 5: of talent, but you don't know how it comes together yet.

1388
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: So this is that's the pressure new DC.

1389
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 5: There's so much pressure on them this year because it's

1390
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 5: totally fair.

1391
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: Like everything you've.

1392
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 5: Asked for, you've been given. You've got resources, you've got

1393
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 5: great facilities, like, you've got a good roster. Now it's

1394
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 5: time for you to deliver. That's the most fair thing

1395
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 5: in competition. The unfair thing would be if he was

1396
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 5: at Minnesota, Like if it was PJ. Fleck and they

1397
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 5: were all of a sudden saying, Hey, Ohio State's down,

1398
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 5: so you need to win the Big Ten this year.

1399
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: PJ.

1400
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 5: Fleck could rightfully say, but I haven't been given the

1401
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 5: resources to win the Big Ten.

1402
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: James Franklin has all that. Do you think Minister's a

1403
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: little sneaky this year? Yes? I do. Yes, I've been

1404
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: on the show. I thought about the go first.

1405
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought they were last year.

1406
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1407
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 3: I just I love everything you're saying about Franklin. I

1408
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: love it. I can understand why we believe it. I'm

1409
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: just like you. The reference of Georgia. I'm in the room.

1410
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 3: I'm standing off to the side right now because he

1411
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 3: has like coach nine to nine point nine percentile roster,

1412
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: Like where is that four percent? Like is he going

1413
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: to be able to himself? His coaches make that four

1414
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 3: percent happen. And that's a beautiful thing about sports.

1415
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 5: You got to wait a little while because they played

1416
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 5: nobody first three weeks, four weeks, but then Oregon comes in.

1417
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: That's the big test.

1418
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 5: That's it. It's basically like their season opener for the country.

1419
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 5: Those outside of Penn State fans. No one will see

1420
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 5: Penn State until that whiteout game when.

1421
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: Organ comes in and there they got Nebraska later in

1422
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: the year.

1423
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 5: They sure do a team that none of the three

1424
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 5: of us mentioned.

1425
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: That's the Dark Race. You know, it's our first show.

1426
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: We got Josh payd On. I'm trying to not grab

1427
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: at that, like the things that you know in love,

1428
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: like obsessed with Dan Lanning.

1429
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 2: I think he's just that.

1430
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to be tuned into this show

1431
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: wondering why I'm picking Penn State again. Try doing my

1432
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: best to keep my homerism of Nebraska down. They're obviously

1433
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: my dark course, and I do have them winning the

1434
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: Big Ten in my own personal fan sportsbook.

1435
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: Arilen Join.

1436
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,560
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1437
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,560
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1438
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,040
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1439
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,800
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1440
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1441
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: Let's get back to this episode. But who's your national champion?

1442
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 5: My national champions Alabama because if they get there, I

1443
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 5: think they're gonna win it. If they get there, that

1444
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 5: means the offense was balanced enough. If they get there,

1445
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 5: that Ty Simpson was a plenty good enough quarterback.

1446
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1447
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 5: And then I mean when I went and watched them

1448
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 5: scrimmage the other day, they think that stood out to

1449
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 5: the media the most is their scrimmage. It was so physical,

1450
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 5: But their d b room is so deep. They got

1451
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 5: They got a six four true freshman. Just to give

1452
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 5: you an idea, his name is Dejon Lee's five star kid.

1453
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 5: One of the top rated corners in the country, comes

1454
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 5: from southern California. What has been a chronic issue for

1455
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 5: USC five star talent leaving the state of California to

1456
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 5: go to the South, and that happened again. That dude

1457
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 5: just ran with the ones the other day. Now, Demani

1458
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 5: Jackson not their southern cow kid playing in Alabama, probably

1459
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 5: their starter at one corner. But they they just throw

1460
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 5: Dejon Lee into the fire because they know they're gonna

1461
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 5: need him this year.

1462
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: Uh, stud unbelievable.

1463
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 5: And he's not six y four. He's not covering porous

1464
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 5: receivers either. Yes, So this kid's six'. Four he looks

1465
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 5: like a complete. Alias it looks like he's in the

1466
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 5: wrong position. Room he's just that, tall but doesn't move

1467
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 5: like a giraffe. Like he moves very. Fluidly Ivan taylor

1468
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 5: is a true freshman at. Safety kid will not start

1469
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 5: this year because they Got sad back. There they got

1470
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 5: the other kid back, there bat and balls, away getting

1471
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 5: in the wide receiver coach's face yelling at, him come

1472
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 5: at me, again come at me. Again THEIR dB room's.

1473
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 5: UNBELIEVABLE i love the depth they. Have the linebackers should

1474
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 5: have been a weakness for, them but Because lawson got

1475
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 5: hurt last year and he comes back and some of

1476
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 5: these other guys have just panned out for, him it's

1477
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 5: low key like a strength of their. Team so my

1478
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 5: point in saying all that, IS i believe in the

1479
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 5: teams that can beat you many different. Ways AND i

1480
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 5: could See alabama winning a game nineteen. THIRTEEN i could

1481
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 5: see him winning a game thirty eight to thirty, one

1482
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 5: and that's kind of VERSATILITY i. NEED i Think i'm

1483
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 5: gonna get that From texas, Too BUT i believe In

1484
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 5: alabama more if they get to the finish, line if

1485
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 5: if they win THE. SEC i got him winning the

1486
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 5: whole thing BECAUSE i Trust kaylen de boor BECAUSE i

1487
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 5: think he may end up having the best staff in THE.

1488
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 5: SEC i Think georgia's staff is the, best but if

1489
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 5: this were to, happen it may be because his staffs

1490
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 5: right there With georgia's.

1491
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: Right georgia's most. Proven but, yeah this all works out this.

1492
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: Year you see to hear about THE dB, Room, yeah

1493
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: hear about you watching. Practice I'M i Had Penn, state

1494
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,959
Speaker 1: BUT i Think i'm gonna flip at The texas BECAUSE

1495
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: i think even If Penn state takes care of, Everything

1496
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: i'm sorry for doing walking away from The Big, ten

1497
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: not walking, Away but if all of these things go,

1498
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: HOW i think they should go with The Big, ten

1499
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: Or Penn state went in and taking care of The

1500
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: Big ten and then getting all the way to the

1501
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: national title game against a team Like texas or against

1502
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: a team Like alabama or another dark horse out. THERE

1503
01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: i think it's a moment to Where Penn state just happened.

1504
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: And they just. Don't so you Think Penn state wins

1505
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: The Big. Ten but.

1506
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: And it's it's, Uh i'm telling you that he's, LIKE

1507
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: i believe in.

1508
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 3: Him they've got the, roster THE zi gets the monkey

1509
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 3: office back and tell this Is.

1510
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying this the put up or shut up him

1511
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: getting to the national title would be massive From Penn.

1512
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: State but if they're going against one of these teams

1513
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: that were sitting here, listening or he's visiting practice and

1514
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: it's A bama or it's His texas, team and If

1515
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: texas Or alabama is hot and they have this momentum

1516
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: going to the national title, GAME i think that would

1517
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: Beat Penn.

1518
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 5: State what you gotta figure is you gotta, figure all,

1519
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 5: right let's just Say Penn state's. There let's say we

1520
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 5: play him in the national title. Game that's. Fun, Okay

1521
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 5: you got to figure whether It's, texas whether It's, bama

1522
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 5: whether It's. Oregon whoever gets, there they got there because

1523
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 5: they're doing What Ohio state did last. Year they got.

1524
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 5: Hot whoever gets there cutting through the weeds got there

1525
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 5: because they got. Hot your concern is whoever gets there is,

1526
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 5: hot and maybe with a better talent roster Than Penn.

1527
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 5: State that's your. Concern yea in this Fair.

1528
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm staying in The Big, Ten stay with my.

1529
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 3: Roots Kirby smart took him six years to win a national.

1530
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 3: Championship Ryan day six, Years davos twenty nine, Years Nick saban,

1531
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 3: Ten Jim harball is. Sixteen so a lot of times

1532
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:15,959
Speaker 3: it takes guys a long time to get to that national.

1533
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 3: Championship it also took a long time for somebody to

1534
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 3: realize that a four minute mile was, possible and then

1535
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: once it, happened it just started fucking. ROLLING i Think

1536
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: Dan lanning's that. MAN i Think oregon takes. IT i

1537
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 3: Think oregon learned a massive lesson last. YEAR i think

1538
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 3: they end up winning the national championship if Oo Ohio

1539
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 3: state Beats. Michigan Ohio state does not wake up as

1540
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: a program un until they lose a, game being twenty point,

1541
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 3: favorites all of a sudden haircutt on, fire the town

1542
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 3: of their, roster all of a sudden, jails and they

1543
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 3: just there was no stopping. It every couple of years

1544
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 3: there's like This alabama team could have beat the thirty

1545
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 3: second best team in THE. Nfl Ohio state's one of those.

1546
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 3: Teams look that last year when they're playing the, playoffs be, like,

1547
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 3: fuck they might have been beat The. Giants they might

1548
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 3: have did it because they were all across what their

1549
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 3: defense was, Incredible their. Offense they were thrown all over the.

1550
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: YARD i Think oregon got. HUMBLED i think their culture, resets.

1551
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: RELOADS i think they win The Big ten and they

1552
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 3: put their foot on the fucking gas when the time

1553
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 3: is right in the middle Of december Into, january and

1554
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 3: they finally get over the. Hump Dan, lennings that's the

1555
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 3: expectation of when coaches and win national.

1556
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 5: Championship if you're, Right if you're, right that means they

1557
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 5: may look vulnerable during the, season and not to bail on,

1558
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 5: them because that Was Ohio state last. Year, yeah like

1559
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 5: anyone who's going to peak In December, january you don't

1560
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 5: just get to rev the engine for four. Months you

1561
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 5: got to rev the engine when it's time to rev the,

1562
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 5: engine which means you may suffer a. Loss Ohio state

1563
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 5: suffered two of. Them so if Bean Penn state may

1564
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 5: go Into, oregon may go Into Penn state lose twenty

1565
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 5: one to, nine would not be surprised like ugly game

1566
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 5: and it's like start over. Scratch, no it's they're still in.

1567
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 2: It. True, hey who's your True Classic heisman?

1568
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 3: Winner my True Classic heisman winner is going to Be Jeremiah.

1569
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 3: Love he's got the logo of The Notre dame on

1570
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: them for the first time. Ever they have a hard.

1571
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 3: Schedule they played In miami And, arkansas Usc all Before.

1572
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 3: Halloween if he's able to once again score twelve touchdowns

1573
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 3: in twelve, games he's already Got he's already got the.

1574
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 3: NAME i think if he gets the point where he's

1575
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 3: putting up the numbers where he could be looked at

1576
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 3: as A, heisman you have the people coming out of

1577
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 3: the of the bushes being like when we're last, year

1578
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 3: Maybe ashton gent should have won The Heisman trophy instead

1579
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 3: Of Travis, hunter and you have like the pro running back.

1580
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 3: Guys maybe he gets a little boost in a lyft

1581
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty four. Season this to me is

1582
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 3: a fun. ONE i think a lot of guys go

1583
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 3: The Clemson. Cat you can go, back you can Go Arch.

1584
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 3: Manning but for, Me Jeremiah love is like a, fun

1585
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: like awesome running back to watch day in and day.

1586
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: Out he wears the logo Of Notre dame and it's,

1587
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 3: LIKE i get excited about the idea of him hoisting

1588
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 3: that trophy at the end of the.

1589
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 2: YEAR i think it sounds.

1590
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: NICE i think it would be really tough for a

1591
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: running back to be the.

1592
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: Tab aslo go. Ahead don't disagree at. ALL i think

1593
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 2: it's a fun.

1594
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: Heisman, YEAH i think it's a fun. HEISMAN i Think

1595
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: Cade Club nick sounds. Fun BUT i Think clemson is

1596
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: gonna Be clemson when the stakes get big and the.

1597
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: STAKES i do think that they have a good, team

1598
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: BUT i think we're gonna be in one of those

1599
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: situations late in the year where social media and everybody's

1600
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: arguing back and forth on people arguing for, kid people

1601
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 1: arguing For Archie. MANNING i Like Lenora. SELLERS i think

1602
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: it's Arch manning OR i think It's Lenora's. Sellers we

1603
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: GOT jp standing on the table right. NOW i THINK

1604
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: i Like Leonora. Sayers Leonora. SELLERS i think it's either

1605
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 1: him or Arch manning because they're gonna have enough primetime.

1606
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: MOMENTS i think the storyline people are catching on to

1607
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: Who lenora's seller is a. LOT i think he's, fun,

1608
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: exciting he can, run he can do all of the

1609
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: things as a young, cat and potentially one of the

1610
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: best players in college.

1611
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,839
Speaker 2: Football my pick Is Leonora.

1612
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 5: Sellers rumor on the street is wide receiver ROOM a

1613
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 5: little deeper At South carolina than people like me thought it.

1614
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 5: Was so that works in your. Favor So i'm going

1615
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 5: ultimate boom er Bust john Matteridt oklahoma is my heisman.

1616
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 5: PICK a lot of people worried about the release. Point

1617
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 5: i'm not a lot of people worried about the equality

1618
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 5: of competition increasing for, Him i'm. NOT i think he

1619
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 5: has the kind of talent that cuts. Through they attack

1620
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 5: the port lid receiver Kindent Penn state, did and so

1621
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 5: they got. Guys he can throw it. Too the only

1622
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 5: thing that concerns me with them is they may start

1623
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 5: a freshman, tackle so that's not. Fun but we'll learn

1624
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 5: about them Against michigan in week. TWO i Think matier

1625
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 5: is going to be a STUD i think he's gonna

1626
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 5: be the story of THE sec this. Year if he's

1627
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 5: not your guy actually.

1628
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: Is but if if let me ask you this, though

1629
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: For John matier to win The, heisman he's obviously he's playing.

1630
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: Electric that Means oklahoma nine and three is a. Contender

1631
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: yeah in THE, sec that's. Correct, yeah because if they're

1632
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: losing some of these big, games that's going to kind

1633
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: of be the shot against. Them BECAUSE i guess it's

1634
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 1: Like Lenora. SELLERS i feel like he'll be in a similar,

1635
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: situation BUT i feel Like Lenora sellers is more known

1636
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 1: and he feels more exciting to.

1637
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: Everybody here's what Helps John, miteer because you'll be putting

1638
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: everybody On.

1639
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 5: John here's what helps. Me people are already talking about

1640
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 5: how tough their schedule, is so that will be like

1641
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 5: in the main frame conversation the whole. Year he doesn't

1642
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 5: need to win eleven or. Ten if they can go

1643
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 5: nine to, three maybe tie breaker leaves them out of

1644
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 5: the playoff picture or selection committee leaves him. Out but

1645
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 5: like he was on the, fringe he had him in

1646
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 5: the conversation because people take into account their strength of

1647
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 5: schedule THAT i think will be enough to get him

1648
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 5: over the.

1649
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: Hump it could be the same With.

1650
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 5: Lagway florida could just miss out ON sec championship or.

1651
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 5: Playoffs Florida lagway balled. Out, yeah but they both. Do

1652
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 5: but that works to my favor because if they're just good,

1653
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 5: enough if they're in the, hunt they could be, eight,

1654
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 5: four nine and. Three tebow won The heisman with four.

1655
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 5: LOSSES i believe one Year tibo had the entire world

1656
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 5: bind he, did So i'm gonna that's a different brand

1657
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 5: OF i got some work to do With.

1658
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: John he got a lot of.

1659
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 5: Work Tim.

1660
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: TEBOW i remember being in high school and him coming

1661
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: out his little documentary being in high school and getting

1662
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: off his recruiting letters like he had the, name he

1663
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: had all of it going.

1664
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 5: In he was doing that next.

1665
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 2: Week, yeah back in oh. Five.

1666
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 3: Yeah anybody who was in high school the same Time

1667
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 3: will AND i. Were Tim tebow Was, yeah he Was

1668
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 3: america's sweetheart for the longest.

1669
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: Time all, Right, hey that concludes their first. Show we

1670
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: were On oklahoma. Again you got him going nine to.

1671
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: Three do you haven't Beaten michigan in week? Two, yes

1672
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: we will see you next, week six Pm, Wednesday The

1673
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,560
Speaker 1: Locker room With Josh, Bate big, hugs tiny, kids scuses

1674
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 5: H