WEBVTT - Ranking the Secondaries in Every Division 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:06.559 And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:09.400 What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move to stacks. DJ Buck 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:10.960 back with you, Buck. What is going on? 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.800 Man? Not too much? DJ love the response to the 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.479 ranking of the product. I've seen some aggregators have picked 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.159 up some of the conversations that we've had. That is 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.200 always fun and look just to let the listeners know 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.480 like it's an opinion. It's an opinion based on what 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:27.800 we've seen around the league and how you kind of 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.600 put it. But I just think it's always interesting when 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.960 we do the tabulations to begin to talk about which 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:35.600 teams are really gonna be in the conversation to be 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.680 title contenders, because we know it's formulaic, but typically if 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:41.480 you rank, you start winning the little battles. Is gonna 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.200 give your opportunity win a war at the end of it. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.720 No doubt, and we will, you know, we will knock 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.879 out the head coaches on tomorrow's episode. Today we're going 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.640 to tackle the secondary. We've already got the skill players 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:56.080 on offense done. You can go back and listen to 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.880 those episodes if you've missed them. So before we get 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.720 to those secondary discussion, ranking these by division. Buck, I 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:03.840 did want to tell you I've got uh, I've got 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.440 one in the books. So I just started working on 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.320 guys for next year. I was trying to watch them 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.399 dudes over the summer, and so the first one that 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.959 I watched, I felt like I had to. I did 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.080 Shuder Sanders, so I got to peek at him. Our 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.160 buddy dion Son, so I got a chance to watch him, 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.720 and Uh, interesting, man, you can find the evaluation. I'll 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.280 have a first look scot of report will be on 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.200 NFL dot com here the next couple of days. I 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.520 won't spoil the whole thing, but I would say a 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:35.920 couple of things. Number One, we have we have the 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.680 numbers now in terms of talking to somebodies around the league. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.320 You have all of the the spring stuff that they did. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.200 They went in there and got official measurements from a 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.400 lot of these schools. In Colorado was one where they 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.800 where they did that. So Schadeur was six oh one 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.960 two so uh, six to one and a quarter one 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.400 hundred and ninety eight pounds, And going through and watching him, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.160 I would say positive side of things. Man. He is 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.320 he's a pure thrower, like just a pure natural thrower, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.840 rinding me a little bit of Stroud from the standpoint 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.000 of when everything is just lined up, you know, pretty consistently, 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.200 he's accurate, he can drive the ball well, he doesn't 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.919 need a lot of space around him to be able 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.920 to drive the football. Just a real gifted, real gifted thrower. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.000 So that's kind of the one thing I would say 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.160 on the positive side, But obviously the negative he's been 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:26.760 hit a lot, I guess literally and figuratively here because 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.120 the sacks, like fifty two sacks takes a ton of sacks. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.320 They weren't good up front, man, the backs struggled in 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.639 pass protection. They just get running through. So some of 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:38.200 those it's not on him. He's he's got numbers that 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.600 should match up. But then you just get your back 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.520 destroyed and run over led to some of those some 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.200 of those sacks. So but still holding the ball a 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:47.399 little bit too much. And the other thing I would 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.720 say is, if you're gonna say area to improve on, 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:52.440 start with the sacks. Then I would add into that 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.520 just some of the shorter air of quickness stuff. You know, 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.919 he's he's he's not super sudden in terms of being 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.519 able to avoid climb and snap and that doesn't mean 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:02.799 I'm about talking about running a forty fast. I'm talking 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.720 about you know, think about guys like Brady, how efficient 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.960 he was in short space, Think about Drew Brees, how 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.120 he can just kind of climb and maneuver and get 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.639 away from pressure. I think he can. You know, it's 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:13.959 something he can work on a little just being a 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.680 little more urgent, a little more a little more demonstrative 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.480 with his movement there in the pocket to get away 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:19.320 from some of that stuff. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.680 Yeah, it's funny because I've written about him elsewhere in 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.520 terms of like Shuder Sanaders QB. One is so funny 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.360 because I evaluations are very very similar DJ and just 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.440 watching him like he does have like what I call 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.640 a very natural feel in the pocket. In terms of 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.760 like playing the game in a traditional sense, like he 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.600 can make wild throws, he can come through in the clutch, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.200 he can do all of those things where you talked 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.200 about like a little bit of like seeing his clock up. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.000 I talked about the nonchalant stead he plays with. I 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.040 feel like sometimes in the pocket he can be a 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.320 little too casual and that leads to some of the 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:00.960 hit Steady takes more urgency with then help him get 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.680 the ball out of his hands. So if I don't 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.840 have a great line up front, then I got to 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.200 quicken my clock to protect myself, you know. And so 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.080 if he can learn that in those things, and look 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.280 I just said, he has to learn that, and for 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.640 us as evaluators, we'll get a chance to see. First 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.280 we saw him in the Pac twelve. When now we 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.440 see him in the Big twelve, we'll get a better 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.520 chance to really evaluate him. Because he dominated at Jackson State, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.200 he showed flashes at Colorado. If he's able to dominate 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.840 in the Big twelve, then you feel better about him 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.159 potentially be in the first quarterback that comes off the board. Neation. 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.200 Yeah, last year, I think he was sixty nine point 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.040 three percent in terms of accuracy. And I'm never talking 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.600 about actucy numbers because it's ball placement league. It's not 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.120 an accuracy league. You look at the college numbers, those 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.720 can be inflated. Honestly, Buck, I would trade sixty nine 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.200 point three percent accuracy at fifty two sacks. I would 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.560 trade for sixty five percent accuracy and cut those sacks 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.000 by twelve to fourteen, you know what I mean, Like, 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.480 just you extend some throwaways in there instead of taking 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.000 so many negative plays. But again, I don't want to 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.640 may sound negative because as a thrower seeing the field, 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.920 delivering the ball, accurately, layering the ball, driving the ball, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.640 the different types of throws, he is gifted. So again 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:12.320 you can find more of that evaluation. That'll be on 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:13.920 NFL dot com here in the next couple of days. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.080 But I just wanted to kind of what you're whistling, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:17.720 you've already done your work on them. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.000 No, no, if the teaser, because I mean, look these 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.280 there's going to be so much conversation about him. And 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:26.120 I'll be honest, like the challenge in this is kind 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.080 of like one of the first times that you're evaluating 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.240 the son's a son of a friend and you're trying 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.720 to be respectful of your relationship while also being truthful 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.000 and honest. And so when Prime calls, you want to 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.159 be able to give him the goods, the real and 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.120 here's where he needs to work on. This is what 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.680 it looks like in those things. But I will say 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.480 he certainly has the potential to be a top ten pick. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.200 It's about cleaning the other stuff up and then the 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.520 other part of it is going to be And I 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:57.800 said this, which franchise will be okay with the antics 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.000 and theatrics that come along with being Sudu or sand 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:04.000 meaning the boldness to confidence to cockiness, however you want 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:08.080 to phrase it, like, are you okay with that? And 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.080 if if you are okay, like, can you get him 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.279 to rend it in to the point of being a 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.800 professional NFL quarterback? If that makes sense to that? And 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.960 there's no code in language that I'm using, but really 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.559 there's a way that you expect your franchise quarterback to act. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.400 And so look, he's a big brand, but can he 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.480 a doll it in and be the face of the 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.680 franchise that everybody will feel comfortable with. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.640 That's that's a bigger conversation. Yeah, I mean it's, uh, 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:35.720 it's gonna interesting just because you have so many guys 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.200 that have transferred in and so many guys that have 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.040 transferred out. So what that's going to do is it's 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.080 going to provide a lot of opportunity for scouts to, uh, hey, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.880 if you're in the quarterback market, you're gonna be able 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.120 to talk to a lot of his teammates at Jackson 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.240 State as well as the guys who were in Colorado 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.200 last year. A whole new group of guys coming to 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.280 Colorado this year. You're gonna be able to visit with 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:56.640 a lot of folks that have been in the locker 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.440 room with him, They've been in a huddle with him, 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.120 and you'll get a sense of that stuff because all 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.240 the other you know, where are the watches and doing 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.279 all that stuff. If the teammates swear by him and 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:07.880 sign off on him and say he's one of the 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.720 dudes and and we're for him, nobody talking about that 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:12.360 stuff they want. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.360 Yeah, fascinating conversation. I do love this time of the 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.960 year because we talked about like we put the last 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.120 class to bid and now we're beginning to look towards 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.520 the new class. So conversations are always kind of fun. 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:25.760 Yep. Well, let's get rolling here into the secondary and 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.480 again remind everybody secondary in this episode. We'll come back tomorrow. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.400 We'll do a quick one on the head coaches in 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.200 each division, and then we'll have the tabulations and kind 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.880 of give you where we are on these divisions and 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.080 how we have them shaken out. Let's start here, Buck, 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.480 you are up AFC East secondaries one, two, three, four. 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:43.880 How we going woo. 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.480 Man, it's so tough. The easiest choice to me is 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:48.000 number one. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:49.400 I got the Jets, yep. 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:53.080 Then I'm gonna go with the Miami Dolphins. I have 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.240 the New England Patriots, and then I have the Buffalo Bills. 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.440 And that is crazy for me to say, sending the 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.040 Buffalo Bill have been good for so long. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.080 In the back end, yeah, well, I mean we had 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.800 Leslie Frasier on episode earlier in the week, and you 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:09.040 know when he's referencing Tredevious White and then he's talking 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.320 about Hide and Ployer and it's like, Okay, well, this 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.840 is a whole new era here for this Buffalo secondary. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.800 So I'm with you. I have them four. I had 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.000 the Jets one. We agree there. I just had New 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.360 England two over Miami three. I thought that was a 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.640 close one. But I'll tell you what. Christian go Zalez, 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.960 before he got hurt last year, was playing Boston. He's 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.800 like a number one. He's a pure number one corner. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.880 You look at Pepper's and Dugger as two guys that 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.120 can do a lot of different things. They're versatile, they're 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:40.400 very smart, very instinctive. So to me, those are those 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.880 are key pieces there. I'm I'm hopeful we'll see my guy, 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.640 Marte Mapho get a little more run this year. Last year, 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.480 they you know, he played sparingly. I was a fan 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.240 of his just again because of the intelligence, the instincts, 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.480 the ability to play some linebacker, play, some safety, some 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:58.120 nickel linebacker stuff. So we'll see how they incorporate him 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:00.480 in your number two. But I really like that in 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.040 New England crew, so I had it just that swap 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:04.840 there with them in Miami. Yeah. 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.600 Yeah. The only reason, like the thing that tipped the 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.000 scales in Miami's favor for me is obviously the Jayalen 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.520 Ramsey effect and Kimda Fuller, who has really got a 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.400 lot of notoriety and acclaim as being one of the 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:20.120 top slot corners. Bringing him over gives them that experience. 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.719 But look, I can knock what you talk about with 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.120 the New England patients because you mentioned the guys like 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:29.880 Pepper's and Douggart, but also Marcus Jones, the NUKA corner, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.400 who is a freak show when it comes to being 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.280 a returner. He's also another really good player. They have 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.319 some talent in certain parts on certain parts of their 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.280 roster that really make you optimistic that at some point 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:42.800 the New England page is going to turn the corner. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:44.920 One of the things going through and ranking all these 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.640 what I learned is there's a lot of good nickels 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.440 in the league. Like when you're going through and looking 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.000 at these teams, there's a lot of teams that have 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.599 really good nickels. It used to be back in the 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:55.920 day that was so hard to find those guys. Why 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:57.079 do you think that is? Why do you think we're 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:01.240 seeing Uh, you know, the the six sess so to speak, 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.480 at that position and a lot of depth around the league. 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.920 Well, I think when offensive started playing a lot of 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:10.760 eleven personnel, it forced defense to react and really treat 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.520 the nickel position like a starting position. So it wasn't 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.640 only in terms of like treating that in terms of, 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.680 hey man, you're a starter, but the way we evaluate 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.160 the position DJ When you and I were scouting, it 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.000 was a separate category on the board for nickels. But 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.800 a lot of times those nickel guys were just the 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.839 guys that didn't necessarily make the height requirement right, so 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.679 he can be a nickel. Now I believe that people 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.920 are really looking and evaluating the position as colleges are 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.679 using the position because we've heard like the star position 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.800 for so long in college, guys are now really evaluating 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:45.120 the slot defendive position separately from how they're doing the 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.920 quarterback position. And it's allowed us to get a better product, 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.720 a better player on the interior as opposed to a 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.200 guy that was a throwaway because he was a short 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:55.600 guy who may not have had the straight line speed 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:56.520 to some of the other guys had. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.800 Yeah, that's a good way to answer that. Let's get 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.240 to the to the AFC North here, Buck. This one 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.680 is challenging for the point where I could make a 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.880 case four is one and one is four. But what 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:07.679 do you got? 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:12.400 So I'm gonna go with Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cincinnati in order. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.559 Cleveland just because Jim Schwartz showed us what you can 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.160 do when you have three DB's that can legitimately lock 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.040 up and play man demand. They can do a Denzel Ward, 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.360 Martin Emerson Junior, Greg Newsom. They are terrific in coverage 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.480 when they go nose to nose and play. And then 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.640 grand Dale pitt has been a guy that can get 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.640 around the ball. But one Thornhill, the guy that the 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.679 safety came over from Ken City a couple years ago. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.120 Just the activity that he brings in the midfield. To me, 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.760 it's an experienced secondary that is really showing a lot 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.480 of expertise when it comes to how they played. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.360 Manda Man, Yeah, I just look, you gotta flush the 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.720 last game out of your head on that one when 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.320 when Houston was a track meet against them. So that 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.920 was the only that was the only thing that was 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:58.600 that was a tough one for me, was just getting 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.160 through that. But I agree with you, I love the 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.479 way they play. To me, I ended up going Pittsburgh 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.920 number one, which may surprise you. Uh, Cleveland two, Cincinnati three, 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:13.000 Baltimore four, and look, and I say that, let's start 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.280 at the end here with Baltimore. Nate Wiggins comes in, 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:19.040 you know, big time pure cover corner tackling was an 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.760 issue and a concern of ours. But we'll see, you 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.400 know how he does in that department. They they intend 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.320 to get the toughness out of people there in Baltimore. Obviously, 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.080 I love the safety combo Kyle Hamilton and Marcus Williams 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.600 as good as it gets. Brandon Stevens, who can do 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.520 a lot of different things. Uh, you know, you got 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.319 Marlin Humphrey, who was kind of the old head. They're 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.120 the VET. You've got a couple of young guys there, 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.839 led by TJ. Tampa. I'm excited to see how he 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:43.559 kind of fits in there. So that's a good group. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.480 But I have him at four Pittsburgh at one is 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:52.120 a couple of things. Number one, Minka, you know, just steady, reliable, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:56.120 the leadership, the production, the you know everything about him. 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.080 I love. I think Joey Porter's on a rocket ship buck. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.160 I really feel I have a chance to go out 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.120 and see him in training camp last year and some 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.440 guys just out there practice. You watch it and you're like, Okay, 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:08.400 had nothing to do with his dad and nothing like that. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.679 I'm like, this guy gets it. He looks like a stealer, 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.199 he plays like a steeler. He's going to be really 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.559 really good man. And you mentioned the Cleveland and I 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.959 think Cincinnati two is a good group and they steal 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.079 from Baltimore getting Geno Stone who's a really good player, 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.320 and Mike Hilton speaking of Nichols that are really good, 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.040 A really really good player. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.200 Yeah, Joey Porter Jr. I said it somewhere. I said, man, 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.240 look I think he's the next coming. He's the next 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:32.840 guy that we're going to talk about being a premier 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.400 cornerback in this league. Early on in the season, DJ 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.880 he got those number one duties and look, he didn't 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.600 shy away from the responsibility of being the number one 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.240 corner on that team. I love his length, I love 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.160 his spiciness, and to me, he's a much better player 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.760 as a pro then it was a prospect in college. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.600 And that is rare that you see someone at the 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.520 NFL level and say, oh, man, he's a much better 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.200 player than I ever envisioned him being in college. But 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.760 he has that and maybe it's the uniform in those things, 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.520 but he has a toughness and a grittiness to me 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.120 that suits what he's being asked to do in Pittsburgh. 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.559 You know, it's a theme that we've had throughout this offseason. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.600 Unintended wasn't something that we were focusing on, really kind 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.080 of drilling home and making a point of Buck's he's 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.560 freaking smart. Man. Like, you're starting to look at these 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.640 guys that have transitioned well and have become really good 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.120 players really young, and I feel like all these positions 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.800 other topics we've had this off season. I feel like, man, 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.960 this is kind of like the off season for us 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:34.280 of you know, valuing the intelligence of these dudes and 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.040 how that translates. And it's come from conversations with coaches, 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.880 with personnel guys, as well as just our own back 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:41.440 and forth year as we're looking at rosters. 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.200 Yeah. No, intelligence is one of those things that, look, 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.800 you have to value it because it allows you to 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.880 do so much more in the back end. And look, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.520 it's not only there, but DJ just in general. If 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.840 you have a smart team, like the smart teams are 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.120 the ones that always in it because they don't beat themselves. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.960 They kind of understand how to eliminate the dbos that 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.400 don't be at ourselves, things like the turnovers, the blown assignments, 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.280 just the stupid penalties and all that. Smart teams don't 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:09.720 do that. They just kind of line up and they 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.560 make you earn your way down the field on both 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.360 sides of the ball. And so you're right, there is 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.120 something about the smart player that we have suddenly shown 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.640 an affinity for this offseason. 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.200 Yep, no doubt. All right, let's get to the AFC 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:23.280 South Bucket Division. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.760 You know, really well, yeah, really interesting look, man, I 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.160 feel like I understand the buzz around the Houston Texans 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.840 when you continue to look at these personnel groupings. I 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.320 got the Texans, look, I got the Texans first, the 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.880 Tennessee Titans second, the Jaguars third, and then the Indianapolis 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:43.600 Colts fourth. And for the Texans, it's the combination of 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:49.280 the experience, the savvy, the athleticism, and then how all 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.520 of the pieces of the puzzle fit together when you 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.800 watch there extingly. There extantly is as advertised years ago 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.120 when he was coming out. Yeah, he's super talented, he 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.360 can get his hands on the ball, he's smart, and 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.440 he is surrounded by, what I say, are guys that 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.680 are really, really, really good at what they're asked to do. 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.880 Jimmy Ward, a leader in the back end, super smart. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.760 Jaln Petrie another guy who just kind of gets it 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.640 and plays like a professional back there. You've seen Desmond 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.400 King play for years, another VET who just kind of 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.760 understands how to fit within the scheme. And look, Kamari 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:25.480 last is going to have an opportunity to play and 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.520 play early for them. I just think this is a 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.080 very talented secondary and Demiico Runs is going to have fun, 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.000 kind of mixing up some of the covers things that 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:34.600 they do. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.160 Yeah, I had it the same with Houston one. I 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.880 had Tennessee too. I think Tennessee one interesting thing. When 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.960 you look at Tennessee you can kind of see a 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.560 theme here when you look at guys like obviously bringing 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.360 over La Jerious and he was a really good player. 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:53.520 But with McCreary, Elijah Moulten, Amani Hooker, Chadobia Lucy, those 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.400 guys are all tough man. Those are That's a feisty, physical, 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.880 tough group there in Tennessee. So I kind of like 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.640 the personality that they've they've equipped that room with. So 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.919 I have Tennessee too. I had the Colts three and 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:11.320 I had your Jags four. Interesting thing on the Colts, 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.680 but Juji Brents is the second round pick, is the 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.320 highest pick that they have in their secondary. So we 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.159 talk about, you know, our buddy Gus Bradley, and we 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.760 think about coaching staff and almost, I don't want to say, 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.679 you get punished for being a really good coach, but 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.360 you get hey, you can make it work. We got 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.439 athletes and maybe we bring in some raw guys, some 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:32.800 mid round picks. Let's get the most out of them. 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.480 They've been able to do that without dedicating a ton 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:36.440 of resources there. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.000 Well, I think I think what it is if we 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.240 do that same exercise and we look at their front 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:43.320 how many of those guys that are playing along. 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:44.720 The front all ones? 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.840 Yeah. What what they've done is they've said, like like 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.880 Leslie talked about Leslie Fraser talks about, Hey, man, I've 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.560 really invest in the front end in the back end 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.760 because I can I can mask some of the flaws 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.960 of the back end by being really dominant at the 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.320 point of attack. And until you pointed it out, didn't 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.600 realize that. Man, they got all on at the point 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.360 of Attech pretty much like they're dealing with Quinny pay 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.320 and the Forest Buckner and lay out to Lasu like 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.760 there's three number ones right there. Yeah, it makes sense. 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.439 Yeah, and look o Dangbo if he doesn't have the 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.400 injury come under that draft would have been one. Yes, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.680 I got him in what second round? So Yeah, they've 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.040 invested resources. They're excansion to see how the different teams 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:24.680 do it. How about the AFC West Park. 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.240 So AFC West, I go to Kansas City Chiefs, the 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:30.399