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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: How you doing? Oh hey, elbe hours a man.

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Speaker 3: I was eating some barber CoA some tacos that they

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Speaker 2: I think those are from like last week.

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Speaker 3: That's why they were called Ah. But you know, power

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Speaker 3: just increases flavor intensified. Actually, you know, it's ridiculous. Besides

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Speaker 3: my eating habits.

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Speaker 2: I certainly do analyse Rutger.

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Speaker 4: Wher from the credit credits Analise Rutgers as Judith. Okay,

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Speaker 4: here's I need to explain something because we've been getting

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Speaker 4: emails and messages and the interns or like, what do

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Speaker 4: we tell them? What are you even talking about? I said,

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Speaker 4: be quiet and get back in the hole.

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, I need to explain analyse Rutgers please. Someone

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Speaker 4: pointed out to us that we have an IMDb page

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Speaker 4: for A Ridiculous Crime, which of which I was unaware.

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Speaker 3: Yes, anything to do right.

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Speaker 4: And on there we're the co hosts, we're the stars, baby,

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Speaker 4: and then there's a character Annalise Rutger as Judas and

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Speaker 4: it's like it's in the moon Rocks, like the guy

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Speaker 3: Is her name Judah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, there's no one named Judith in that episode.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm looking and she's got all these other

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Speaker 4: kind of weird credits.

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Speaker 2: Can I read you her mini bio?

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Speaker 4: Like, I think that she's just putting herself in various

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Speaker 3: She was on the show, Yeah, just a random episode.

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Speaker 3: She picked an episode, said, oh, yeah, I was that

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Speaker 2: Judas I guess. Yeah, So here's her bio.

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Speaker 4: Annalise Margaret Rutger was born in New Haven, Connecticut, to

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Speaker 4: Carl Heinz Rutger and Anne Louise Rutger. She has one brother, Lewis.

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Speaker 4: Her ancestry is German and Irish. Annalise was an honor student.

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Speaker 4: She was in a number of films that caught attention.

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Speaker 4: Annalise was in some magazines. She was in many plays.

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Speaker 4: She was often read about. She made a movie condemning

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Speaker 3: She made a movie condemning slavery on the History Channel.

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Speaker 4: Exactly like the grammar and mechanics here. She agreed to

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Speaker 4: her sorority Kappa Delta's belief on Greek. I guess the

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Speaker 4: name Annelise has a special meaning. Her name means grace

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Speaker 4: and Hebrew, she does not speak the language. She is

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Speaker 4: known for having great skin in her movie and TV

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Speaker 4: of modeling work. Her smile was first captured on Mark

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Speaker 4: Wahlberg's HBO series Entourage. She is in two episodes of

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Speaker 4: the show. She is single and available to meet somebody.

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Speaker 4: She has made it in Hollywood and now retired alone.

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Speaker 4: Wait what, I don't know, Like if she's no longer acting,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. But if she hasn't an agent, they

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Speaker 2: The trivia for her.

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Speaker 4: She is close with Macaulay Culkin, Vince Vaughan, Kristin Davis,

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Speaker 3: Wow is she still with us?

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Speaker 4: Well, she was recently in a music video Spring summer

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Speaker 4: Of course, she said she was on Amanda Seals podcast

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Speaker 2: So, Amanda Seals, I know you.

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Speaker 4: Don't listen to this show, but if you do, girl,

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Speaker 4: you're getting hijacked, like we are ridiculous crime Judith as

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So anyway, come.

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Speaker 3: Get your woman, Analyse Rutger. She's running wild.

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Speaker 4: Basically, it looks like her first thing was Estudio two,

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Speaker 4: She's played medical student Blue Lady undercredited.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, sex in the Ancient World, prostitution in POMPEII,

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Speaker 4: Annalese Rutger, whether this is some weird fluke, like a

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Speaker 2: And like, you know, you can.

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Speaker 4: You can look up her picture and see what's what's what's.

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Speaker 3: Up with analys Rucker.

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Speaker 2: It is ridiculous, But that explains it for all the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're trying to help her along.

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Speaker 2: I guess trying. I want her to get gigs.

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Speaker 3: You're a good person, and you.

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Speaker 4: Know she's alone, she's single and ready to mingle. She

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Speaker 4: made it in Hollywood, Sarin.

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Speaker 3: Keep that thought in mind. Yes, because I've got something

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Okay, In case you didn't notice, Elizabeth, it's awfully

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Speaker 3: easy to fleece those folks that like to call themselves

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Speaker 3: coastal elites.

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Speaker 2: As a coastal elite, I say, right right, it's.

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Speaker 3: Also easy to fleece like those who believe that they're

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Speaker 3: same group, easy to fleece. You know what those two

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Speaker 3: groups have in common, Elizabeth? What's that both groups think

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Speaker 3: they're smarter than others based on no evidence whatsoever. So

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Speaker 3: you know, and one thing I know about this and

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Speaker 3: learned it from this show, but just in general is

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Speaker 3: crimers they love them for that attitude.

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Speaker 2: Oh, definitely.

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Speaker 3: This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 3: ices and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free,

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Speaker 3: ay and ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Elizabeth, Yes.

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Speaker 3: You like the art world.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: Wait, let me restate that you like art world crimes.

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Speaker 2: Golly do I ever? I do? Like? I do?

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Speaker 3: You? Do? You? I mean, I don't mean to put

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Speaker 2: I love art crime.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's art there. I have one for you.

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Speaker 2: It's like bloodless crime. It's exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's there's no blood on the on the babis.

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Speaker 4: It's it's not like you're stealing people's life savings. It's

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Speaker 3: Generally speaking, it's people who have it to lose it.

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Speaker 2: Get up in there, I say.

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Speaker 3: Generally speaking, generally speak, Well, this case, it's an art crime,

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Speaker 3: but it's so much more. Yeah, but for the moment,

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Speaker 3: let's just start for this story in New York in

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighties, oh, okay, nineteen eighty seven to be specific.

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Speaker 3: That has said our stage, this is going to be

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Speaker 3: October of nineteen eighty seven, our story begins, which is

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Speaker 3: a much different world. It's hard to like wrap your

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Speaker 2: In October eighty Yes, right in New York.

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Speaker 3: For one, just for cultural cachet. The number one movie

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Speaker 4: Gosh eighty sevens Michael Douglas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're kidding.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you're spot on. You get it as game little

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Speaker 2: Called yeah, fatal Fatal Attraction. Yeah, yeah, yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Glen she's got range.

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh god, yes. Now I won't read you the

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Speaker 3: The number three movie in the US. You want to

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Speaker 2: Has late for a police.

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Speaker 3: Highly quotable movie a lot of people. Yes, highly quotable.

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Speaker 3: That's another one. It involves land wars in Asia. There's

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Speaker 2: That's good movie.

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Speaker 3: Number four movies. If you can guess this one, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: Oh nobody was baby in a corner? Dirty dancing?

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Speaker 2: Do you have the time in your life? You know what.

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Speaker 3: Really such a cable movie.

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Speaker 2: I think I've caught clips of it here and there, but.

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Speaker 3: Well, you didn't have a younger sister.

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Speaker 3: I saw a lot of those movies. Sound of music.

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Speaker 3: There's a ton of movies I know purely because well,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The shocker of this list for me is how

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Speaker 3: it was this shocker, Right, you'll never guess this once.

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Speaker 3: I'll just tell it to you. The Principle, The Principle.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that one, or at least do you

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's like a is he hold? Is a guy

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Ray's daughter.

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Speaker 4: Yes, whatever happened to her, she's great, She was great,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. There you go, one of your classics around

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Speaker 3: the office. Did you know The Principle was filmed in

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Speaker 2: That I did not know?

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Speaker 3: Right? The high school scenes were shot at Northgate in

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Speaker 3: Walnut Creek, because it's a high school movie. The Principal, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: James Blishy, he plays principal Rick Latimer and James Bellissi.

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Speaker 3: We're setting the stage. Elizabeth stand Out in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty seven, David Bloom was a twenty three

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Speaker 3: Great question now was the time scrupulously documented. Quote. For

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Speaker 3: Now, this guy, David Bloom, he had other troubles besides that,

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Speaker 4: Well, he's basically Julia Roberts, a pretty woman.

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Speaker 2: Either way, that's what he does. He goes in, he

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Speaker 3: Elizonda's like, no, there's suspicious minds could not stop this

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Speaker 3: And as he boasted to The Times, our man David Bloom,

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Speaker 3: So just let that thought percolate in your mind. We'll

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Speaker 3: All right, Elizabeth, we're back, my man David Bloom, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was like in five years time. Right now.

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Speaker 3: for him. On his walls, if you'd visited, you would

438
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 3: have loved it. You find the artwork of John Singer,

439
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: Sergeant Mary Cassatt. Right, yes, I know you like her.

440
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 3: And so in fact, the wallpaper was selected by his

441
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 3: interior designers to highlight the artworks. Now I found a

442
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 3: great quote of what these interior decorators did to highlight

443
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 3: the artworks. Quote they used a Beiji and white classical

444
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 3: pattern for the living room and a vibrant red stripe

445
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: pattern for the dining room that made the art popular.

446
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: Bit sure, it's not bad for a twenty three year

447
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 3: old art collector. Now David Bloom had another art had

448
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 3: another passion besides his art collection. His other passion frames.

449
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: Oh sure, yeah, Now he's had Quote. I take framing

450
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 3: very seriously because the right frame can change the way

451
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: a picture looks. I often spend months looking for just

452
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: the right one.

453
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 4: He just goes in the gallery's like, you know what,

454
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 4: big frame guy, you.

455
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 3: Show me your frames. I don't want the art, the frames. Now,

456
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 3: apparently this cat had all the best frames, Elizabeth. He

457
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: had quote two Stanford White frames, a child Hassam and

458
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 3: one by Charles Prendergrass.

459
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: Wait Charles Prends Yes.

460
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: Brother of Maurice Prendigrass.

461
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: What about Teddy, Elizabeth, I know.

462
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: What, Yeah, Teddy's boy. I know you have an eye

463
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 3: for art and even own a few paintings and frame prints. Right, So,

464
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: if you were interested in some advice. In my research

465
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: on David Bloom, I found an offer of a list

466
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: of seven tips for art collecting beginning. Number one, begin

467
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: a collection by focusing on a particular period, for instance

468
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: eighteen nineteen fifty two. Develop a good relationship with a

469
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 3: reputable dealer. That way you'll know exactly what you were

470
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: getting and can have some recourse if necessary, because it's

471
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 3: so easy to find a reputable art dealer. Number three,

472
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: look for period or trade catalogs. They are good reference material.

473
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: Find a catalog. Okay, that's a good idea. Number four.

474
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: Although buying at flea markets can be risky, if you

475
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: find something you like that is well priced and you

476
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: are ready to gamble, take the plush that. Number five.

477
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 3: Pre auction viewing the time before an auction where you

478
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: can closely examine the items. It's one of the best

479
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: educational experiences. Unlike a museum, there are no roped off areas,

480
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: so you can open the drawers of a desk orp,

481
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 3: turn over a chair, lick it, just flip it. Want numbers,

482
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: This one's mine. Number six. Auction house experts are very

483
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 3: often generous with information. Doesn't mean it's true. Now ask

484
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 3: them questions. After all, it is to their advantage to

485
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: educate the buyer.

486
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 2: No it is not, then they them feel smart.

487
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 3: Number seven. Go to auctions.

488
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: How to get a painting A Well.

489
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's more to it. And watch what the

490
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 3: dealers are bidding on. This is a way of gauging

491
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 3: not on popular taste, but also current prices. Okay, now,

492
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: for those listening, I would like to add one other

493
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 3: art collecting tip. Considered a rat a ridiculous crime art

494
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: collecting tip Colet's call it number eight. Yeah, number eight,

495
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 3: do not do crimes just to build an art collection,

496
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 3: or you may lose it when the Feds come a calling. Now,

497
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: the reason I bring this up is because one year later,

498
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 3: The New York Times ran a second story about David Boy.

499
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: Oh boy. Here it is.

500
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 3: December nineteen eighty eight. The Times ran this headline, wall

501
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 3: Street whiz kid gets eight year.

502
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: Term for fraud eight years.

503
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 3: Yes, that was his nickname at the time, the Wall

504
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: Street whiz Kid. He was a finance guy and he

505
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 3: called himself the Wall Street wiz Kid. And that explains

506
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 3: how a twenty three year old could have masked one

507
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: of the most impressive art collections in the area. Oh yeah, yeah,

508
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: but what did David Bloom do to get busted?

509
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: Cocaine?

510
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: I imagine, Yes, I am guessing that this guy, a

511
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: twenty three year old finance broke in the eighties buying

512
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: up art like a drunken sailor.

513
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: He is coked to the guilt.

514
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: Oh yes, see, he's basically a walking coke vile. Yeah, allegedly, allegedly,

515
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: we're saying now, the Wall Street whiz Kid. He's accused

516
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 3: of defrauding his investors of fifteen million dollars, which was

517
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: a lot in nineteen eighty seven, he had truly, but

518
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 3: it was a way a lot then.

519
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

520
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had one hundred and forty clients at the

521
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: time that he was working their investments, and he started

522
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: out investing the money of his friend's parents. That's how

523
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: he got his okay, oh yeah, he attended Duke University.

524
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: He graduates in eighty five. He goes into finance, moves

525
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: to New York. He finds some clients and like I said,

526
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: early ones were the wealthy parents of his college friends.

527
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: He starts, you know, takes their money invested, or rather

528
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: he pretends to invest it, because really what he did

529
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: is he took it their money and he blew it

530
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 3: on his art collection, his beloved frames, his interior decorators investment.

531
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: Not only that, he also bought himself property and expensive

532
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: sports cars. He bought himself an apartment on the East Side.

533
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: He bought himself a two million dollar home in the

534
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: Hampton's and then that was back when a two million

535
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 3: dollar home in the Hampton's was very expensive.

536
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

537
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 3: Now he also had a house he bought for himself

538
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 3: in the city. That's where he just kept the women

539
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 3: in his life that were staying. He's like, oh, you

540
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: can just stay in this apartment, in this house. I

541
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: have to call them girlfriends is an insult to the

542
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: term girlfriend, so we'll just say the women in his life.

543
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

544
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: Now he was enjoying this champagne and caviar, the Lifestyles

545
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 3: of the Rich and famous, Robin Leech lifestyle. Right, But anyway,

546
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: Robin Leech as the guy is the name of the

547
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: guy who's just out with rich people and brings nothing

548
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: to the situation other than some cameras and like a

549
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: lust for nice things.

550
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: He's like Robin Barnacle Leech. It's a joke.

551
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: It's like Bas came up with him as an idea. Anyway,

552
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: this dude, he's loving this lifetime.

553
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I have to.

554
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 4: As soon as we're done here today, I'm going to

555
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: look into why was Robin Leach an Experts do not.

556
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: Know who this man.

557
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 3: I assume like Merv Griffin oam money and gave.

558
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 4: Him a show like he just had an accent and

559
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 4: asked he showed up.

560
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: He knew port from Starboard.

561
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: The show was Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, and

562
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: it just like had the sycophone.

563
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 3: To go around, so discussed and just go show me

564
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: your nice stuff. Then he would just walk around and

565
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: he used that weird accent he had. It wasn't really

566
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: a British accent, but it was like a put upon

567
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: British accent because he was like Australian or something. Right,

568
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: I think he wasn't really British.

569
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: And he actually from upstate New York.

570
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 3: No, whenever anyone raised their questions about their investments with

571
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: old David bloom Right, well he'd of course, he had

572
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: him covered, right, he'd print up some fake paperwork and

573
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 3: show them where their money was. Not only that, though, Elizabeth,

574
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: he was smart, the fraudulent paper also showed that the

575
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 3: investors were making big profits. So it was like, look

576
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 3: here's what your money is, and look how well you're doing.

577
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: Doing great.

578
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 3: And when I see these investors by investors, I mean

579
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: greedy people who love big profits, because these aren't real investors.

580
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: These are people who would do things like investor with

581
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: this guy. Know, if any of these investors wanted to

582
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: taste some of their profits and wanted to cash out

583
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 3: a little, if he was like pushed to pay out,

584
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: of course he would. He had to. So he would

585
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: take the money from a new investor, and then he

586
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: would give that to the investor who wanted their money.

587
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 3: And we all know what we call that, Elizabeth.

588
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: The pyramid buns.

589
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Ponzie scheme. Now his company was called

590
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: Greater Sutton Investors Group.

591
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 2: That mounds. That sounds wealthy, No, it.

592
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: Sounds very serious. So Greater Sutton Investors Group. Yeah, the

593
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: GSIG are kidneying that. That was about all the cover

594
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: he needed because between the fraudulent paperwork and the profits

595
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: paid from the next suckers, and then obviously the whole

596
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: patina of young wealth and success he'd liked to emulate,

597
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: David Bloom was able to build a repertoire of actual

598
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: real money investors. I'm talking folks like Bill Cosby and

599
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 3: the Sultan of BRUNEI.

600
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: Yes.

601
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: Then then nineteen eighty seven comes right, yeah, oh, in

602
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: this like Bush League Bernie Madeoff, scheme comes apart because

603
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: what happens in eighty seven what I say, Black Monday

604
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: stock market crash. Yeah, Suddenly David Balloom can't find his

605
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: next sucker, which means he can't keep his Ponzi scheme going,

606
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: which means he gets arrested, tried, and convicted.

607
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

608
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: So one of his victims had been his own grandmother.

609
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: No, yeah, oh come on now, oh.

610
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, David. Now, before he was sentence, David Bloom confessed

611
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: before the court that his Ponzi scheme had escalated way

612
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: beyond any possible control, and he said he wished to apologize.

613
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: He didn't apologize. He said he.

614
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: Wished to apologize. I could apologize, and he.

615
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: Said, and I quote your honor, for the past few years,

616
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: my life has been out of control. Now at this point,

617
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: Bloom clasped his hands together and he promised the judge

618
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: that he was presently undergoing extensive psychiatric treatment. Like he

619
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: was like, your Honor, I'm not a well man. Now,

620
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: keep in mind, Also he's got a lawyer there right,

621
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: because he's paying for it. There's another guy talking on

622
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 3: his behalf, and so his lawyers like I got this

623
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: one off. He asked the judge for leniency. He pleads

624
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: that this Ponzi scheme of David David Blooms was always

625
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: bound to fail. I mean, this guy he owed incredible debts,

626
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: Your Honor, he had back taxes. Also, he's got to

627
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 3: now pay restitution to his victims. This guy's saddled with debts.

628
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: Feel bad for him, Your honor judge is like, no, bro,

629
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: he's no fan of a Wall Street fraudster who's won

630
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: twenty four years old at this point and following the

631
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: stock market crash, everybody wants to kind of punish the

632
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: Wall Street he brought down, like Main Street finances, especially

633
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: the scammers like David Bloom, so acknowledging this new spirit

634
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: of the times, Bloom's lawyer calls his client quote a

635
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: greedy young man. I admit he's a greedy young man.

636
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: He also calls him, he's a product of our times.

637
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: You're honor. Right. After admitting all that, his lawyer then

638
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: asked the judge to, you know, instead of punishing his

639
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: client with more prison time than like the Wall Street

640
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: fraudsters like I've been Bowsky, you know, he's kind to

641
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: this guy, right, He's just a young man with so

642
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: much life before him.

643
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: He spent so much money at Sharper Image on food

644
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 4: processors and.

645
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: Those like glowing balls with the electric light they put

646
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: your hand zapping your fingers. Now, the only reason, his

647
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: lawyer points out, the only reason that you're going to

648
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: go after my client instead of people like I have

649
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: in Boski was the simple fact that quote, he had

650
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: no accomplices to turn in. Oh remember though, he said,

651
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't do this on my own, So he guys

652
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: have accomplice. But the judge is like, well, you know what,

653
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: those guys aren't here. Your client is. So he throws

654
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: the book at him and he says, quote, I find

655
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: the mister Ballom is remorseless, completely lacking in conscience. Then

656
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: he sentences David Bloom to eight years.

657
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: In federal prisons on just two.

658
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: Charges of fraud. And he makes sure that then that

659
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: the sentences are going to run not concurrent, but consecutive. Sure,

660
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 3: he's got to do fourth, then he's got to do four. Yeah. So,

661
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: as the New York Times records quote, Bloom displayed little emotion,

662
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: but he seemed to swallow hard when the judge said

663
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: the two sentences had to be served consecutively. So he

664
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: realized it. He's like my life. So soone he ends

665
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: up spending six years behind bars, and he gets released

666
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: from federal prison in nineteen ninety four. So what does

667
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: this former frauds to do next? Elizabeth? Now that he's free,

668
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: he goes back to Manhattan starts a new life for himself,

669
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: and I'd like to tell you that he became a

670
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: restored member of society. I would like to Elizabeth, but

671
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: he would not let me do that because he went

672
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: right back to crime.

673
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: Can't help it, the boy can't help it.

674
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: He also knows that finance angle too well, and there's

675
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: so many suckers out there at this point ninety four

676
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 3: ye I speaking back up. Clinton's got the economy but

677
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: coming back out all at eighties downturn and like why

678
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: he was able to be elected in ninety two. So

679
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: things are starting to roll along. So David Bloom starts

680
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: working that finance angle he knows so well. He settles

681
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 3: into midtown Manhattan. Now he doesn't like he can't go

682
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: and hang out like and get an office per se.

683
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: That's because the SEC is after him, is probably anyway.

684
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: He starts hanging out in restaurants and eateries and just

685
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: acting like a big shot, right, and he tells the

686
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: waiters and waitresses that he's in finance. He tells the

687
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: regulars he's in finance. He also tells them about all

688
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: the easy money he's making off of stock market IPOs.

689
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: If you don't know if those are their initial public offerings.

690
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: It's when the stock first goes out to the regular

691
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: little people. I know about that beforehand, and I'm able

692
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: to invest that kind of talk right now, he'd tell

693
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: peop about this inside scoop, and he was generous to

694
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: let the little people know what he knew. Now, that

695
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: is the ones he liked. This is the key. He

696
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: made people feel special and that he this finance guy,

697
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: this big shot like them give them an entrance into

698
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: the world of high finance through a side door. Now,

699
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: eventually they would ask him about investing. I mean he

700
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: hits he liked them, Elizabeth. He would he would give

701
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: them some advice on where they could invest. Then maybe

702
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: one day he'd tell him about one of his big deals.

703
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 3: If you could come aboard this one, oh man, you

704
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: got you'd be making money. By the way, at this point,

705
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: this is around two.

706
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: Thousand, so for a while totally.

707
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: He does it for a number of years, right, and

708
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: then the economy tanks in two thousand and again with

709
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: the stock market, and this guy gets busted right when

710
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: the stock market goes wonky. He's got real bad time

711
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: in the back because he runs out of investors because

712
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: he's always running scams. So he gets charged with larceny

713
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: sec violations, back to prison for five years. After this

714
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: second time, he gets out in two thousand and six

715
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: and he starts his new life for the second time.

716
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 3: And I would like to tell you that he was

717
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: restored to the community of non crimers Elizabeth because he

718
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: went because of course, he went running back to crime.

719
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: Oh god.

720
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: However, it is all he knows, really bow But I mean,

721
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: he could go legit. But regardless, this is when he

722
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: did make one big change in his life. He met

723
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: his future wife, Nancy Oseias. Apparently he told her about

724
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: his criminal past. He came clean, and I put heavy

725
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 3: emphasis on it being his past. She believed him. She

726
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: was like, oh, let's start a new life together. And

727
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: she planned to start this new life. And then her

728
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 3: family members when they heard about this, they were like no,

729
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: they were dead set against this right. And then because

730
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: they could look up David Bloom on the Internet and

731
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 3: there's like, oh Wall Street whiz kid, you know, like

732
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: scammer A yeah exactly, They're like, no, honey, we can't anyway.

733
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: Two thousand and nine, couple gets married. Twenty eleven, the

734
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: newly weds move across country to get away from like

735
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: all their pasts, right, and possibly her family saying he's

736
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: no good for you. Yeah, they pick up sticks, they

737
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 3: find new digs. Can you guess where they moved, Elizabeth.

738
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: They moved across country from New York City Los Angeles.

739
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: You said, Los Angeles. Dang ding dang chicken dinner for

740
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: the big winner. Now, for most folks, a move like

741
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 3: that would mean when they arrived in their new low cow,

742
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: they would need to find gainful employment. Not David Bloom, Elizabeth,

743
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: no money finds him. So, as his newlywed bride remembered,

744
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: somehow he didn't find work, but money kept rolling in.

745
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: Amazing somehow.

746
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: You see, she's just a sweet summer child, Elizabeth. She

747
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 3: would have never suspected that her husband, who told her

748
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: that he'd been in crime, had returned to crime. He's

749
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: just good with finance. It's not that she would be suspicious.

750
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: She somehow the money kept rolling in.

751
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: Her love is making him into man.

752
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: Exactly, I can change him, as she'd say much later,

753
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: and I quote in retrospect, I have absolutely no idea

754
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: if anything he ever told me was true. Oh yeah,

755
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: you think, as the saying goes, the cows came home,

756
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: the cows in this case, Elizabeth were a proof of

757
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: multiple fraud in her name his wife. She came home

758
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 3: one day and she found mail in her name, and

759
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: the mail was credit cards in her name, and the

760
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: credit cards that she had not applied for. And that

761
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 3: was not all. There was other stuff in her name.

762
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 3: She asked her husband what was going on. I guess

763
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: she didn't like the answers because she filed for divorce.

764
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: That was you in twenty seventeen. That same year, she

765
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: and her soon to be X's husband were named in

766
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 3: a lawsuit together. The two investors who sued them claimed

767
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: the victims of David Bloom had were victims to the

768
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: tune of one hundred and one thousand dollars in an

769
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 3: investment that they gave him for an early round of

770
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: investment in Snapchat before the IPO.

771
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding.

772
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, I don't know what all happened in the

773
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: back room dealings, but I did find out that the

774
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: lawsuit was settled two years later in twenty nineteen, and

775
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 3: the wife was no longer mentioned. The divorce went through,

776
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: and the Sweet Summer Child the innocent that she was

777
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: somehow advantages to wriggle out of any mutual culpability.

778
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: Is it was snapchat? The one in Venice, Yeah.

779
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: The one that I lived across the street from. The

780
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 3: lady would always bike back and forth in front going

781
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: yelling things I can't say right now because of the

782
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: cussing of its Snapchat, like every like fifteen twenty minutes

783
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 3: she bike one direction.

784
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: To the other. Makes sense. She go to La Everybody

785
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: hated it.

786
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you pretend like got in on Snapchat.

787
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 3: Totally, and people they were all everybody in the area

788
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 3: was like in there in Santa Monica. They would want

789
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: to because they're like, oh, my kid tells me about that,

790
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: I'd love to totally.

791
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: And they're like, oh, I've got a line on it.

792
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: I'll get you in there.

793
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 3: So this guy could be milking tons of suckers down.

794
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: So anyway, though, his divorce gets granted. So now, what

795
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: does David Bloom do next. He's now a two time convict,

796
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: back to his criming ways, has moved to Los Angeles.

797
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: He's also, by the way, living in Hollywood, and now

798
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: he's divorced.

799
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: What does he do next?

800
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's he doing next?

801
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: Cocaine?

802
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: He becomes a super divorce guy. Oh boy, Yes, he

803
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: moves into an apartment complex on Franklin Avenue, which is

804
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: a Franklin boulevard at spot called Villa Carlata. Right, you

805
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: know up at the top of Hollywood, right, yea, So

806
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 3: imagine a Hollywood apartment complex were young actors and middle

807
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 3: ages still hopeful. Yeah, like white outside stucco, right, And

808
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: so the smarmy dudes who are like Hollywood hangers on. Right,

809
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 3: the guy is always working a deal. That's where they live, right.

810
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: So now they add in this fifty something super divorce guy.

811
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: He sets upshot for sport in for business. He goes

812
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: trawling the bars and restaurants in the area, same as

813
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: he did in Manhattan, and one of his favorite spots

814
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: was one of my favorite spots, Elizabeth, what's that. I'm like,

815
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: tell you, we'll take a little break after this. I

816
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: will be back and tell you where I almost cross

817
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 3: paths with David Balloon.

818
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding me, and we're back.

819
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: So I've told you before I used to live in Hollywood,

820
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: and yes I did, like you know, screenwriting and acting

821
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: and stuff. So one of the spots I used to

822
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 3: frequent was this place called the Frolic Room on Hollywood Boulevard.

823
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: It sounds worse than it is.

824
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: Ladies take their clothes off, Yeah, no, you.

825
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: You'd be hard pressed to find many ladies in this

826
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 3: spot backward.

827
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: The place where guys take their clothes off for dollar bills.

828
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: No, it was a legendary dive bar. You like dive bars.

829
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: I did it used to now when I lived in

830
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: La was the kind of dive bar where you find

831
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: real drunks, right, the kind who would be there in

832
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: midday drinking right so by the times ask right now,

833
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: by the time David Bloom was drinking, there was more

834
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: of like a Hollywood cool hip bar because they'd been

835
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: restored to Glory Frolic Room right on Hollywood next to

836
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: the Pantageous Theater. Yeah yeah, okay, Now, back when I

837
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: was drinking there, as I said, I was a Hollywood

838
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: screenwriter who wanted to join the ranks of those writers

839
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: who came before me and drank in the daytimes. I

840
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: was like, I coulda go down to drinking bars in

841
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: the daytime and thought it was key to my powers.

842
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. One day I was in there by myself,

843
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 3: who's in the frolic room with me, Elizabeth, don't bother

844
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 3: asking or guessing key for Sutherland. Oh wow, yeah, you

845
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: wouldn't see that one coming, did Joe.

846
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: Well, I was going like Jean Claude van Dam.

847
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: Now I knew it was him, but I pretended I

848
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: didn't know was him. And then he seemed to like that.

849
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: So he and I sat there and we drank together

850
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: and talked and we watched the hockey game? Did he

851
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: asked the bartender to put on because he's a big

852
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: hockey fan. Anyway, this bar, as I told you later on,

853
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: becomes hip again. Right now no longer is the kind

854
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: of place where drunks to keep for Southerlan than and

855
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: I drank. Now, it was the kind of place where

856
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: Hollywood people like to talk about deals in public, right,

857
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 3: and David Bloom starts circulating getting involved in that talk.

858
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: Remember he's a finance guy, so the investor kind. So

859
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 3: he's the kind of guy who would invested in Netflix deal. Right.

860
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, So he tells one bar regular he

861
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: was friendly with Ted Surrandos. If you don't know that name,

862
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 3: he's the CEO of Netflix. Now David Bloom was friendly

863
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: with him, he tells a bar regular, Oarc you get

864
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: a screenplay in front of Ted if I want right now.

865
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: Obviously he doesn't know the Netflix CEO, but somehow the

866
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 3: screenplay just never seems to get in front of old Ted.

867
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 3: But at this point it's twenty twenty one now or

868
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: almost catching up to our modern day era. David Bloom

869
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: is a regular at the Frolic Room, as I told you,

870
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: next door to the Pantages, which has like Broadway shows

871
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 3: like Wicked, so you'll see actors also drinking in the

872
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: midi midday hours. Anyway, he's hanging out there. It's one

873
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: of those bars that has like an L bar, simple

874
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: L shape. He likes to spit at the spot at

875
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 3: the end of the bar by the door. Yeah, returns

876
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 3: right on the turn right. So one bartender he used

877
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: to remember how quote a lot of regulars, and everybody

878
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: kind of knew he was full of it, and they

879
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: just left him alone and wouldn't sit next to him.

880
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, but they still couldn't help themselves because

881
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 3: one day David tells all these guys he can get

882
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 3: Super Bowl tickets because he knows the owner of the

883
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams.

884
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, one.

885
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: Of the regulars recalled how Bloom told him quote, he's

886
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: got a spot in the owner's box and that's where

887
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: all these guys are gonna be. So he invited us.

888
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 4: So he tells the regular I have super Bowl tickets, yes,

889
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 4: and instead you go to a dive bar and announced

890
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 4: to strangers.

891
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: Well before the super Bowl. He's telling them, the regulars,

892
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: then I can get you and the bartenders into the

893
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: owner's box of the Los Angeles lams yeah, and he

894
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: tells them this about twenty of these regulars, and so

895
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: they all go okay, and he tells, yeah, you guys

896
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: meet up here at the bar that Sunday. I'll come

897
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: pick you up and we'll all go over and I'll

898
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: get you in right. The twenty regular they show up

899
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 3: at the bar and they're waiting at the frolic room hoping.

900
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 3: David Bloom comes by and he's legit, and they wait

901
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: and they wait Elizabeth, and they wait some more. Their

902
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: hopes grows like slim. Slim is like a very thin.

903
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: Stew well, I mean I can see where too.

904
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 4: If he says this, you like yeah, yeah, yeah, but

905
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: in the back of your mind, like if I don't

906
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 4: show up, and then the next time I go to

907
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 4: the bar. Everyone's going to talk about how amazing it was.

908
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 4: He pulled up, made it happen, because you know, you

909
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: know things can happen.

910
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: One of the regulars. He bought a new pair of

911
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: shoes just so he'd fit in with the swells and

912
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: the owner's box. Swear to God, Bloom sends word to

913
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 3: the group. The bartender. Doc talked about him earlier. He

914
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 3: remembered how quote he texted me at a ten o'clock

915
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: Sunday morning of the Super Bowl saying his sister was

916
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: killed in a car crash. Oh god, Yeah, you gotta

917
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: love a real liar's liar like that. They always go

918
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: big when the chips are down. Yeah. Now, I had

919
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: a friend of mine, and I won't embarrass him by

920
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: naming him, but he used to lie like this, Like

921
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: I'd be standing next to him and he'd say to

922
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: somebody right right in front of them that we were

923
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: supposed to be somewhere like the day before, and he'd

924
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: be like, oh, yeah, man, my truck was stolen, no prep,

925
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: And I'm standing there. Now I've got to sit there

926
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 3: with a straight face and then go with the same

927
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: live like his truck was stolen in town where trucks

928
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: are not stolen, like this just doesn't happen. It would

929
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: be big news anyways. That so then this other person

930
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: would remember the law because he would go for these

931
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: huge lies like my truck was stolen, and then people

932
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: wuld see us, hey man, what happened? Like he's like, oh, yeah,

933
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: I got my truck back. They found it. Because he

934
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: would never remember that his lie was going to sound

935
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: traumatic and these other people would want to check in

936
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 3: on it. So I did to have to sit there

937
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: and try.

938
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: To remember it. I cared about them.

939
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: Well, David Blum's mother was not dead, or was his sister,

940
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: nor anyone in his family. As it turns out, he

941
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: was spotted that same Super Bowl Sunday by somebody seen

942
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: drinking and playing pool at another bar. Oh yeah, all

943
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: the same. He knew he overplayed his lie that day

944
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 3: because David Bloom never ever went back to the frolic room.

945
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: Now that one guy who bought a new pair of

946
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: shoes for Super Bowl Sunday. Yeah, he later was quoted

947
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 3: by the La Times and he said that David Bloom

948
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: was a scumbag, an awful person.

949
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: Oh I feel the same way.

950
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 3: But anybody who convinces me to buy shoes to hang

951
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: out with rich people, get.

952
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 4: New shoes for the occasion in a suit.

953
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: So David Bloom fresh underpants.

954
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: Uh no he did not. His mother be disappointed.

955
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 4: You're in an accident wearing fresh under with his new.

956
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: Got on some freshees. So at this point, David Bloom

957
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 3: fifty something, super divorced, dirtbag finance guy, and he's calling

958
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: Hollywood home.

959
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: Right like a pop collar on his pol pretty much.

960
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 3: So he's at this place, the apartment complex, the Via Carlada, right,

961
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 3: and this apartment building has told he's on Franklin in Hollywood.

962
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 3: A bunch of Hollywood hopefuls live there and other scammers

963
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: who were like but like low grade, not like professionals,

964
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: just like they're scamming themselves. Now he turns out this

965
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 3: guy he's going around and uh, he sees his neighbors

966
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: as uh, of course targets because his grandmother was a target.

967
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: So enter Caroline Diamore. Do you recognize that name? But

968
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: she wishes you would have recognized Elizabeth. She was once

969
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: a reality TV star, was she? Yeah? She was, and

970
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: I use that term generously. She was on the spinoff

971
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: show The Hills New Beginnings.

972
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: I have no idea what that is.

973
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 3: I don't either, but it's a great name.

974
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 2: Right about TV, Caroline, It's like I have like hazy

975
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: memory Hills.

976
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 3: You remember the Hills.

977
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: It's the over watched it. Yeah, it was all that.

978
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 2: Don't think I was living in this country.

979
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: They often say the same thing myself. I don't think

980
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: I was in this country at that time.

981
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't think I was living in this country.

982
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: That's gap, but I'm definitely gonna borrow that. When david'll

983
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: Bloom came into her life, old Caroline Diamore, she had

984
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: a new career path. She was no longer on a

985
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: spin off reality TV show. Now she had a company

986
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: called Pizza Girl that she had started during the pandemic.

987
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: It was an organic pizza sauce company.

988
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I make organic pizza sauce.

989
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: I know you do. You could be Pizza Girl if

990
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: you wanted to. She actually she got her stuff onto

991
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: like a grocery store shelves.

992
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: And she get into Costco.

993
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 3: No that I didn't check Costco.

994
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,959
Speaker 2: That's the whole She got into Whole Food.

995
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: So anyway, one day Dimire was sitting pool side at

996
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 3: the apartment pool.

997
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: She's a's one of those La complexes with the pools

998
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: on the first floor and it's in the center.

999
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: Of exactly up walks David bloom Right, he's heard about

1000
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 3: Pizza Girl in her sauce company. Now, I quote Dio Morre.

1001
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. He actually came.

1002
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: Over to me at the pool. He said that he

1003
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: had heard about my product. He'd gone to the supermarket

1004
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: to buy my product. He was very blown away by it.

1005
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: He was telling me he wanted to mentor me and

1006
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: possibly invest in my company. Now, as de More later

1007
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: told the La Times, quote, he kind of knew the

1008
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: right things to say when he first approached me.

1009
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: He wants to mentor me, Like, who are you to

1010
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 4: come around?

1011
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: You know, I hate that.

1012
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: I hate to be born suspicious when someone comes up

1013
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: says I want to be your mentor.

1014
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: Well, it's like, you know when someone finds out like

1015
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 4: I've had it where someone hears about, oh, you know,

1016
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 4: your book's published, and they come up and they're like,

1017
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: I'm happy to kind of give you any chips.

1018
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, it's in the bookstores.

1019
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: I don't need Barnes.

1020
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: And Noble, no tips needed, Thank you.

1021
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 3: I'm going to mentor you because I'm going to offer

1022
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: my service.

1023
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, help you out here.

1024
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: Thanks. Anyway, Deomore wasn't exactly suspicious, as I point out

1025
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: when they first met, because she put it quote he

1026
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: had just confided in he at some point about his

1027
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: ex wife and how he was heartbroken. Heartbreak because the

1028
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: hell of a way to bond in a lonely town

1029
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: like La. All right, his story works to win her

1030
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: friendship or what passes for it in a Hollywood apartment complex.

1031
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 2: I'm a sad guy.

1032
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, you know what it is.

1033
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: This is tough, it's broken, and I love pizza sauce.

1034
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: So much going on in my head.

1035
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 3: So now that bloom is casually mentioned that, he's like,

1036
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: you know, heartbroken and so forth. He also mentions he

1037
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: knows this guy Ron Burkele and if you don't know

1038
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: who he is, he owns Soho House. It's a quote

1039
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 3: an exclusive international social club. Now, the casual name drop

1040
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: it works on DM Moore and wins her trust because

1041
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: she puts a quote. I never thought that somebody would

1042
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: make that up. I just thought it was such a

1043
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: random person to name drop.

1044
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: It is the kind of random name drop but I

1045
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 4: would be like, wait, it totally rings a bell.

1046
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: Who is that? See that's how it works, Like whatever.

1047
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta be like me, you don't know anything.

1048
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who that is?

1049
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: Did you have to ask who is that?

1050
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: Who is that?

1051
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 3: So she didn't know, but she was already being worked right,

1052
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: So Bloom he sees a ripe one in her, so

1053
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: he focuses on her. He tells her how he can

1054
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: help her with her financial pick sure to be a

1055
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: mentor all that he knows people he knows. The CEO

1056
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: of Whole Foods A C. Gallo, Oh for an introduction

1057
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: from me, could mean you'd be on the companies like

1058
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: get the company's full support on all the shelves coast

1059
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 3: to coast. He said, it just like some shelf space

1060
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 3: down at the Whole Foods here in La Like you

1061
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: told me.

1062
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: He took it an ara one right, that's.

1063
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: The real money. Now, before the deal moves forward, David

1064
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 3: Bloom convinces her he can help her with her financial picture,

1065
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: get her on her square footing, so that way her

1066
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: company isn't like, you know, so precarious. He imagines that.

1067
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: You know, he's coming out of the pandemic. She's been

1068
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: struggling to get people to I don't know why by

1069
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: pizza sauce, but regardless, she says, it was difficult.

1070
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 2: People are born having pizza parties.

1071
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 4: I guess they're getting an OONI like I got Yeah,

1072
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: he's took that pizza outside.

1073
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: There go. So, while she's trying to make her leap

1074
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 3: from reality star to pizza sauce and presario, she could

1075
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: use a financial windfall like what David Balloon promises, so

1076
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 3: he convinces her to invest thirty five thousand dollars in

1077
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: the exclusive Soho house. He tells her the company is

1078
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: about to announce it's IPO and thanks for a little insider.

1079
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: In like London, New York.

1080
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, Yeah, so he can he can help her

1081
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: like walk away with eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars

1082
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: off the initial investment. Now, if those things don't make

1083
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: you suspicious or skeptical, I don't know what to tell you. Anyway.

1084
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: As these dizzy days progressed, Diamore and invites David Bloom

1085
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: to her daughter's birthday party. Oh she got a kid.

1086
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: At the party, he tells the much younger woman that

1087
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: he loves her, but not like you think, Elizabeth. He

1088
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 3: tells her he loved her like a kid's sister. I'm

1089
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: looking out for you zone totally. So a little time passes. Now,

1090
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: David Bloom comes back to Diamore with great news. He

1091
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 3: talked to the head honcho at Whole Foods. You remember

1092
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: their friends. Yeah, he's interested in meeting this promising young

1093
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 3: pizza girl. The word is out about her pizza sauce

1094
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: and Whole Foods wants it on all their shelves. Can't

1095
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: believe we're already selling it. We didn't know more So

1096
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: to prove it was worth her time to make a

1097
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: plan to fly to Texas to meet with the folks

1098
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 3: from Whole Foods, Bloom sets up a meet and greet

1099
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: phone called a c Gallo. The Whole Foods CEO, the

1100
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: Pizza Girl hopeful ceo. They chat on the phone. They

1101
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 3: hit it off. He promises he'll schedu a two million

1102
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: dollar investment in Dmorri's pizza sauce company. He invites her

1103
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 3: and her business partner to meet him in Texas at

1104
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 3: the Whole Foods headquarters. She recalled it and I quote

1105
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: he sent me and my business partners on a trip

1106
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: to Texas to meet the CEO of Whole Foods. That

1107
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: heat in this case is David Bloom. Okay, right, so,

1108
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: but rather than me tell you about all this, Elizabeth, wait.

1109
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: Wasn't really the CEO on the phone.

1110
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: I'd like you to close your eyes. I'd like you

1111
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: to picture it. It's a warm day. The sound of

1112
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: the LA traffic grows distance. Since you've arrived at your destination. Lax.

1113
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 3: The car door closes, you step out. You, Elizabeth, are

1114
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 3: the business partner of Caroline Dmore and you two are

1115
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 3: headed to Texas to meet with the CEO of Whole

1116
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 3: Foods one ac gallo. You rush through security at TSA.

1117
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 3: You two have to run to make it to your gage,

1118
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: but you make it just in time and barely a

1119
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 3: moment it.

1120
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: Feels like the plane takes off.

1121
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 3: You two order drinks. On the flight. You order a

1122
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 3: second round. You two are excited as you chat as

1123
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: you drink, imagining how this meeting will go send it up.

1124
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: The flight lands, wheels down, car door closes. You're back

1125
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: in a taxi gab, this time headed to Whole Foods headquarters.

1126
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: You two aren't nervous, you're excited. You're geeked even, Oh

1127
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: my god, it's happening. The taxi ride doesn't last long.

1128
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: The car door's open. You two are at Whole Foods headquarters.

1129
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: It's all happening, Elizabeth, you too. Hoof it up the

1130
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: sidewalk past public art and water fountains bubbling to charming

1131
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: corporate complex. As far as those go. You walk through

1132
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: the glass doors into a main lobby. There's some world

1133
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: music playing wood flute and rainstick kind of music playing

1134
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: from unseen speakers. A male secretary seated behind a high desk.

1135
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 3: He greets you both. You hear your business partner, Caroline Diamores,

1136
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 3: say your names and the time of your meeting with

1137
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: Ac Gallows. The male secretary checks the computer screen. He says,

1138
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: there's no meeting or visitors pass for either of you

1139
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 3: in the system. You hear Caroline Damorris says, would you

1140
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: mind checking again? The male secretary goes through the shard

1141
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: and says again, you're not in the system. Sorry. Are

1142
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 3: you sure you have the day right? Caroline Damorris says, no,

1143
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 3: it's today. We flew here, it's today. The secretary says, no,

1144
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: it's not today. There must be some mistake there's no mistake,

1145
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: but there must be. There isn't. Do you need your

1146
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: parking validated? You the sensible one, the business partner. You

1147
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,479
Speaker 3: tell Caroline you too, she'd step outside. She follows your leader.

1148
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: She's kind of cracking up, and as soon as you

1149
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 3: step outside, the world music falls away. You ask, have

1150
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 3: you ever looked David bloom up online? Standing there outside

1151
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 3: of Whole Foods? You and your business partner, Caroline dmurrey.

1152
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: As she types the words, you look over her shoulder

1153
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: into the phone. David bloom scammer, She types into her phone,

1154
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 3: and that's when she discovers a new story, and then

1155
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 3: another new story in another one, and you two see

1156
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 3: that he had a prior identity as the Wall Street

1157
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 3: whiz kid back in Manhattan. Caroline dmorray gasps, drops her phone,

1158
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: and you mouthed words that rhyme with Joe spit Elizabeth.

1159
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: Neither the business partner you nor Caroline dmorray ever thought

1160
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: to look up David bloom up online before they were

1161
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 3: standing outside the Whole Foods complex in Texas.

1162
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: Believable, unbelievable. I google everybody. It astounds me.

1163
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: They would be if he asked them out on a date,

1164
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 3: they'd know everything about it. But because like thirty five

1165
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, why do I need to investigate anything? Jamuri

1166
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 3: gave this man the thirty five grand flew to Texas

1167
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: before she ever thought to look him up. Google is free.

1168
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: Who was she talking to on the phone? Him?

1169
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: No, he paid somebody to prin to be a C. Gallo. Yeah,

1170
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 3: I'm Acy Galo.

1171
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: She doesn't know who he is.

1172
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: Like, so he has paid somebody who's had a good

1173
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: business voice. I guess.

1174
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: Okay.

1175
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: Anyway, Elizabeth, she and her business partner, they now have

1176
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 3: to fly back home to La knowing the full truth

1177
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: that they've been big time duped by her neighbor. As

1178
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 3: DMR said later, she put it all together. Who I

1179
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 3: thought I'd spoken to on the phone. He went so

1180
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: far as to have someone impersonate this person to me.

1181
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: The truth descended like a lead curtain dropped from above right,

1182
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: and so did the emotional shock, the sense of betrayal,

1183
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 3: all that he knew, all about my history growing up

1184
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: in the restaurants. He was just very excited about my company.

1185
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 3: I was ecstatic. He knew I wasn't rich, and that's

1186
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 3: what was really upsetting. So Demoury. She gets back home

1187
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 3: to the Villa Carlatta apartment complex. She asks around, talks

1188
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: to her neighbors, asked if they've seen David Bloom. They

1189
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 3: want to know why she's so upset. She tells him

1190
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 3: about the investing in the finance. Then, Elizabeth, would you

1191
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 3: believe it? Turns out he's been working over all of

1192
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: the neighbors. He could, as Amore put it, quote, everybody

1193
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: thought it was a special deal for them. He really

1194
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: makes you feel like you're his best friend. So the

1195
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: apartment neighbors, they all basically comparison notes and stories. They

1196
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: realize he's scammed all of them. They march up to

1197
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: his apartment and they bang on the door, ready to

1198
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: have some confrontation and demand their money back. And what

1199
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: do you think they found? Was he there or had

1200
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 3: he already bounced?

1201
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: Oh he's gone.

1202
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 3: No, Elizabeth, this guy was sitting there, sitting there.

1203
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: He sends her on this trip to Texas.

1204
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: And doesn't leave, and he's still at the apartment. He's like,

1205
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: I got good WiFi, I like the views. Planned well,

1206
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 3: he's home to receive the angry mob of his neighbors,

1207
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 3: all the people who lives around him. He tried to

1208
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 3: calm down this la apartment complex. All the folks he's

1209
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 3: cheated and lied to for thousands of dollars. These are

1210
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 3: not people who have this to lose. One of the group,

1211
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: who would not be named, when he spoke with the

1212
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: La Times said, and I quote, at first, he denied everything.

1213
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 3: He denied that he scammed us. He said, I will

1214
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: pay you all back in the morning. But everything that

1215
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 3: comes out of his mouth is.

1216
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: A lie in the morning.

1217
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, he didn't buy himself enough time. So to

1218
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: get justice, this group of swindled people, they take to

1219
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 3: social media. Dmore the Pizza Girls. She posts on Instagram

1220
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 3: all the time about her former friend and financial advisor,

1221
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: her mentor. The group eventually partners with Nancy Oseias, the

1222
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 3: former wife of Bloom. They began to protest and make

1223
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: noise outside of the LA DA's office because he won't

1224
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 3: take this case seriously. He's like, oh, you got scammed

1225
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 3: in Hollywood, welcome to town, right. They demanded the DA

1226
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 3: get off the pot and take action against his local scammer.

1227
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: The La Times reported about Dmore because they find Dmore

1228
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: at the outside of a protest. Yeah, and I quote

1229
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: the reason these people get away, but they's because people

1230
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 3: are too afraid to admit that they were scammed. I'm

1231
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 3: willing to beat the face. You know what, We're not

1232
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 3: the ones that need to be embarrassed. And you know what,

1233
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 3: Pizza Girl, good for you. I agree with you. You should

1234
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: not be embarrassed, amen, because where she put it. So

1235
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 3: I don't feel stupid that I fell for it. I

1236
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 3: feel human.

1237
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: Well you can also feel stupid. You'd be human is

1238
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: to be stupid.

1239
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 3: It is human to get scammed, yes, or rather to

1240
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: believe in something that's too good to be true. That's

1241
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: how we cross oceans, that's how we do all sorts

1242
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 3: of stuff. So it's not embarrassing you got scammed by

1243
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: someone like David Blue. I mean, it kinda is, as

1244
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: you point out, but it's not. You shouldn't remain mute

1245
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 3: and hope it all passed.

1246
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: To admit to being stupid.

1247
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 3: But I but I mean, it could be embarrassing, like

1248
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: oh I goofed, you know, like spilling water on yourself

1249
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: is embarrassing, but it's not catastrophic and detrimental. It's just like,

1250
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 3: oh I shouldn't do that again.

1251
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: Get embarrassed.

1252
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 3: But you don't get embarrassed by many things. Yeah, I know,

1253
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: I've been many to talk to you about that. Anyway,

1254
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: in this case, it worked, la DA. They get off

1255
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: their pot, they take action. David Bloom is arrested and

1256
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 3: LAPD must not have liked this guy because they raided

1257
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 3: his place at four am on a Monday morning. Oh out, Yeah,

1258
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 3: that's big time screw you from the LAPD totally. So

1259
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 3: he gets charged with nine counts of grand theft in fraud.

1260
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: LADA George Gasson he pointed out in his press hearing

1261
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,280
Speaker 3: about the case that the laped's investigation discovered that Bloom,

1262
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: now fifty nine years old, quote, had very little money

1263
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: in his personal accounts, so he's just living off of

1264
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 3: his debt.

1265
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1266
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: As the LADA said in his press release, quote, this

1267
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: is an individual who's a predator. He's been praying on

1268
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 3: victims vulnerable people all his life, and he came to

1269
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: la to do the same thing. Here. They take advantage

1270
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: of any of us, and they generally pick us at

1271
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: a moment of vulnerability. They come to you in a

1272
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 3: way that you feel like you're personally connected to this individual.

1273
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 3: Since he was just recently arrested David Bloom has convicted

1274
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 3: and he's yet to be sentenced, so he's looking right

1275
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 3: now at fourteen years in a California prison. Yikes, Elizabeth,

1276
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: what's our ridiculous takeaway here?

1277
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: Man?

1278
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 4: Don't trust anybody and make your own pizza sauce.

1279
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 3: That's good advice.

1280
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: That's great advice, Thanks so much.

1281
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: Thank you for asking. Elizabeth. Is if you're in a

1282
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 3: Hollywood bar and someone tells you they're friends with the

1283
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,439
Speaker 3: head of Netflix, assume they're lying in fact. And also,

1284
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 3: if you're running a business, assume no one wants to

1285
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: make you rich because why you know. And then also

1286
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 3: if they say they do, once again, they're probably lying

1287
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 3: or planning on gobbling you up or somehow taking the.

1288
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: Money that they make you rich with exactly.

1289
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: So there you go. That's it.

1290
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: That's a great takeaway. Thank you so much.

1291
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. But La, is so you in the mood

1292
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: for a talkback? I love them produce a d Can

1293
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: you favor us with a talk bag?

1294
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: Big get I night and me from astral I just

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Speaker 2: want to say, you go, it's pretty funny and a

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Speaker 2: listening to you on not Shift and you kept asking

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Speaker 3: So here you got. We always love your guys's talkbacks,

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Speaker 3: so you should play more of these. Yah. Yeah, get

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Speaker 3: Or you can go online and go send us an

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Speaker 3: email Ridiculous Crime if you want to do like a

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Speaker 3: voice message there and you can do that too, if

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Speaker 3: you can figure that out. Yeah, And you can also

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Speaker 3: go to ridiculous Crime dot com. You can't leave any

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Speaker 3: out our survey for listenership and tell us about yourself.

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Speaker 3: And obviously you know you can email us at ridiculous

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Speaker 3: Crime at gmail dot com. As always started dear producer

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Speaker 3: David Well as always, thanks for listening. We will catch

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Speaker 3: you next crime. Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dunton

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Speaker 3: and Zaron Burnette, produced and edited by the CEO of Netflix,

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Speaker 3: Dave gust It's starring Analys Rutgers. Judy Research is by

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Speaker 3: Song Sharp and Tear. Our theme song is by Thomas

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Speaker 3: new Shoes Lee and Travis I don't like football Dutton.

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Speaker 3: Then you Know, I once drank with Donald Sutherland before

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Speaker 3: he passed Bowland and Noel, I once drank with Donald

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Speaker 3: Sutherland after he passed Brown.

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Speaker 2: Crime, Say it one more time, Gequs Crime.

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